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was he really using that all the time ?
is roach really that strong still ?
nah roach is kinda meh
but look at this guy
CR
and winstreak
i like titania
thats good tech vs haven
maybe he didndt run into many swords 
and abyss
sword is terrible match up ?
horrible yeah
man i wish i could play roach like i like idea of deck but im just too slow
to do turns
abyss is bad too since they can build walls every turn
i would literlaly need to spam that deck nonstop
to be good at it
oh ye
this mid abyss
is very strong vs roach
mode abysss is beter for roach
but they can still lose
mode abyss isnt as aggresive early game
compared to mid
well more like they dont have sticky boards
mode still wins if they have one congregant to stall for turn 9 ginsetsu
they can freely just gain modes
Reaching beyond is less about deck strength and more about piloting.
im close to GM 3 aswell
I prefer facing the hybrid version
They have less burn damage and I can just blow up aether with Filene
i did it
3 classes legendary
got legendary unironically with rose queen 
also cant be fucked playing rune this shit is boring to play
and i dont have cards for other classes
now dragon

ho-chan kawai ne
@true abyss
Not sure which is better when fully animated.
Neither beats the OG art for Forte, honestly.
Gonna work on Galmieux after
Kinda wish seer's globes were a little cheaper. 30k vials is a bit steep.
even the resource sinks are overpriced in this game 
its not that bad
i only spent 150 and havent had any problems making anything i want
but u gotta do ur dailies and shit and blah blah
I disagree, and I've spent considerably more than that 
i mean how
like u know i barely spent on this game and have kept up with each release very easily
this set i had 70 packs ready in gold from doing dailies and weekly etc
Simply "keeping up" is not the point being made here. The point is that, even for people who do spend, the game is overpriced in multiple areas.
oh sure the prices are fucked up
but for playing the game keeping up and not having to spend further has not been an issue
but if i stopped doing dailies it would become an issue evntually
if they keep sets like 70 cards or so like they have been tho this game wont be 2 bad but for new players good fucking luck lol
This was one set that should've been larger than 70 cards. It's one of the biggest issues with Destruction Portal right now.
Undercooked archetype.
i thought it was going to be yeah
MAYBE? the october one is cause its a longer wait?
I have burnout with the game
Might rejoin at half anniversary if cygames gives free crap like uma musuame
yeah i barely play recently outside of event or daily
sometimes i dont even do dailies just get pack and park keys n dip
take two is still the most fun 
Might as well uninstall if you're genuinely expecting this
Cygames has pretty clearly shown how they want to operate within this game
There just won't be sv1 levels of generosity, even if the game is legitimately dying
expecting any substantial freebies from cygames in this game 
take two only has master and not gm right 
To my knowledge, yes
I can get to max rank in take two then 
wtf

yea
@umbral seal thats massive
now liu feng actually good play on curve
and on evo turn u can combo her with 1 drop or 2 drop
wait when are these buff live ?
nah
becasue u can do orchis into liam
that seems kinda strong
u basically now less reliant to draw double orchis to win
liam is just not good in general
its 9 dmg on 9 or 8
9 cost and requires evo
also ward wall
i'll be surprised if fellas start playing him again only reason he was in base puppet was cause we had no other option
potentially but we'll see
zwei
i dont think fellas running it
zwei is good yeah
shes basically now scuffed AG
then a bunch of take 2 stuff i see
yeah i dont think id ever evo her if i can avoid it
usually u have puppets to throw down in the first place
im gonna try double liam in puppets
Jerry being removed from Take Two makes sense because he's too broken in that format. The only relevant buff is Liu Feng. The rest are garbage. Zwei is still garbage.
Zwei is garbage because Victoria gets ward when she wants to hide behind wards.
i dont think zwei is garbage
she now give double ward on evo that can be very relevant and clear 3
sure but no
double ward include victoria
like whos evoing her for a puppet
turn 5 more often than not u dont need evo to clear with a puppet deck
odin cant get through
her now
on evo
otherwise u would need to use puppet from hand
its really good vs zirconia
zwei now
The problem is that Zwei's stat line is not large enough to make her scary. She's still a shittier stabilizer than A&G
well i mean shes not offensive unit
You don't need to because there's so many trivial ways to get past her
This is nuclear grade cope
lowkey victoria stats is the problem
well anyways i think puppets might atleast be better now than eggs
6/1 is bad
if they wanna do that and make her good she needs shit like first strike
No, Victoria is good when you play symphony of hearts, because Lloyd protects her
well 6/1 is bad stat line but atleast it kills stuff and survive a lot of time
yeah but were talking when u throw zwei out
Correct. Zwei is the problem, not Victoria

lowkey both blow cause u have no reason to evo zwei the way u do AG
and vicky statline gets run over by anything
Actually, the puppet cat buff is also pretty massive
Aggro puppets might make a resurgence
it having rush is cool
But I'm not sure it'll be good
but ye now portal have good curve zwei into noah into odin into orchis into liam still no 4 drop good for puppets 
The bigger deal is that it's 1 pp
u prob wont see puppets still until next set when they get more support
i dont get why artifact portal
didnt get single buff
that deck disapeared
from meta
well puppets too
its just weird all 3 buffs were puppets related
and not single artifact
but lets see if this liue feng buff can save dragon
it should honestly
now dragon can snowball early
going first
well even second
and if they dont remove her
u evo face
and thats gg
It's a good change but no
It won't push Fennie ramp higher than t2. Most people have it at t3
Does nothing for storm dragon because there's no room for liu feng in that deck
fellas playing her on turn 3 tho chances are she gonna die before evo
well yes
but i mean now its good stated 3 drop
so it doesnt feel bad
to play on curve
like when i play puppets or eggs quite a lot of time she survive
eudie
even if she dies before evo liu feng but u hit atleast once face
its good enough
also in overflow turns
shes now 3 mana 5 removal
which is not bad
eudie is prob the best 3 drop lowkey
That's perfectly fine because odds are, if you're playing her on curve, it's because you have to. Like against sword
So now they have to make the choice to trade into it or go face
ye when she was 4 drop u could never do this
even if u go first
she always died
before she could evo or go face
they traded into her on evo
and she did nothing
This does mean that ramp decks definitely want to play 3 copies now. A lot of Fennie decks have been running 2, myself included
ye i think now u gonna play 3
in every dragon
she would be played lowkey now even in aggro
No.
well i guess aggro doesnt really need to ramp at all
Reason being that ocean rider & eyfa are better cards. In storm/aggro, you only want to ramp once so you can play garyu on your first super evo
Otherwise, you can't
I don't even play that anymore and I've been having more success
Playing ivory dragon on turn 1 has won me far more games
in aggro dragon ?
only portal is dropping stuff turn 5 that has less than 3 atk so the enhanced puppet is dead to anything 
garbage buff
btw for example haven cant really kill liu feng on 3 right ?
unless they use aoe
They can. Some lists run the 3 pp amulet
well u could technically replace dragonsigns with her now
Uh, no because dragonsign doesn't require an evo
In most games, if I have to evo liu feng, that means I'm not evolving merman or galmieux on my first evo
Which means I will lose against most decks
Replace dragonsign with liu feng and tell me how that works out
It is a terrible idea
It's only fine if you don't draw garyu. If you draw garyu, like I said earlier, you want to ramp at least once
Otherwise, you have to wait a turn before you can super evo him
Liu Feng ramp doesn't need Evo right?
because u can play sooner
At 3 mana she's quite good right
more expensive stuff
at least they buffed portal but the buffs don't do anything imo this game needs nerfs way more than buffs
it does need evo
from jery deck
If you are in overflow, it evolves automatically. Before that, no
yes but now shes aggresive play early
I don't even evolve jerry unless my hand is bad and I'm already at 8 pp
Because I don't want to play jerry, immediately draw raio and then pitch him
Raio will win you the game if you play him
benediction still healing 10 hp for free if you have full crests skipping ranked until the next balance patch 
it does need evo but she can evo automatically during overflow
well i dont think this buff make dragon magically tier higher
but it def helps
actually dragon might be now middle tier instead of bottom
You can create situations where Haven cannot play Benison with no downside but it requires consistent pressure. Only midrange abyss/midrange sword can do this reliably.
btw also she trade into grimnir and survive thats also huge
Ahh I see, would've been insane if you can drop her at 3 and she ramped without evo 
Otherwise, you just have to otk them. Mode Abyss, Rune, Fennie Dragon & Forest all have otks
Why do you think there will be a meta where you won't be bitching?
This is why I say some of you fellas should just quit permanently
It's like y'all are new to online card games
the meta right now would be great if crest haven didn't exist
idk why you think complaining about the objectively broken deck is bitching 
Crest Haven is slightly overpowered but it's not making ranked unplayable for me. And I play Dragon.
It's not broken.
yeah every dragon card has more stats than half the portal deck combined
portal has no big fellas
i wouldn't complain about haven either if i could just fennie and drop two genesis face 
ye tehre are decks that favorable againts haven
if deck had literally no bad match up it would be problem but thats not the case
is it annoying to play againts yes
its unbeatable no
i called this ahead that i dont think anything gets nerfed because meta overall isnt that bad and instead they just buffed stuff
which is fair
all the top portal players i used to watch for decks just gave up on making portal decks and are just playing jerry egg because it's easier to win with jerry decking out than portal having lethal 
I alternate between Fennie & Storm. Storm has better match ups against everything else
Because, contrary to how you're making it seem, Haven is far from the only thing in ranked
i know but it's the only deck that feels boring to fight against
It's a control deck. That's how it is.
Seeing warrior stack armor every turn wasn't fun in Hearthstone either
Ramp Dragon in SV1 would ramp to 10 quickly, drop bahamut and there was nothing most decks could realistically do with 5-6pp

Only thing that would placate portal players right now would be either Maisha or Absolute Tolerance. Both are otk's.

There's already too many otk's in this game, considering that we're only on set 3. OTK meta might not be that far from the future
And I doubt you'll like that either
i would probably like it if portal also had one 
yeah
all other crafts had top tier during sets right
its A at best
tbh i cheese so much with Forte

cus when no counter it just hits

There's only two types of people who want this:
- People who didn't experience t1 dragon in SV1 | 2. People who main dragon
Printing more ramp for dragon is only problematic because Fennie exists. If you can reliably play Fennie without taking too much damage, the tempo you get from discounted high cost cards is too high for most decks to overcome
And that's not including the fact that you can get otk'd even if you deal with the post fennie board flood
Playing double garyu is similar to playing double cerb, except for the fact that you can't play cerb on your first super evo
Too much for most decks to deal with
dai kyonyuu
That's sus Mr rdine
Bad take.
Liu Feng: significant buff. Likely 3x in any every ramp deck as opposed to 2. Undecided if she replaces dragon sign in storm dragon. Liam: still trash imo. Puppet cat: significant buff that will likely lead to the return of aggro puppets. Zwei: still ass, imo, but it'll help with portal reaching lethal if evo'd zwei can hit face while being guarded by puppets.
Jerry was OP in take two so I'm not surprised by that change.
liu feng still needs evo right?
its better later on i guess if you arent playing fennie
Sure. That's irrelevant. Her being 3 pp means you can freely play her on curve. This is important where tempo matters and you cannot afford to use an evo on her.
i agree that puppet cat and liam buff will matter, but its still puppet in the end 
In a lot of match ups, you need to save your evo for merman and/or galmieux because they help stabilize the board. Liu Feng does not.
While dragon sign's ramp is immediate, playing an on-curve liu feng at 3, especially if you're going second, means that a sword player, for example, has to decide between trading (if they don't have valse) or going face
I see a lot of sword players going face when I have filene otb even though it means their octrice dies
Similar situation
thats true ye now playing liu feng without evoing wont feel like shit \
playing her on curve with evo feels like shit already imagine playing it on 4 when u arent going 2nd 
My storm list runs fighter to play on 4
but fighter is good 
I had a haven player concede on turn 5 because I swarmed the board with ivory dragon, filene, ocean rider, fighter, they played their board wipe and I just evo'd fighter to go face for 7
Guess they thought they couldn't recover from that
ye if they dont have a 2 or 3 drop its doomed vs aggro
I also just straight up keep odin in my mulligan against haven
hmm idk i dont really do that
maybe if my hand is already good enough i would
Well, if you're going first, you can't counter a coined Wilbert
Dragon can.
Which is why I do it.
yeah fair
Honestly, the one nerf I wanted more than anything was a nerf to Odin
legendary neutrals with way too much versatility are the norm now I guess 
I just think he's bad for the game
haven finally getting 5 redraws back
wish they just kept it at 5 before lowering next patch again
surely the next normal legendary wont be in most decks again 
I think they expected Haven to no longer need it, considering the strength of Crest Haven in constructed. But things don't always pan out that way.
Gilenelise is less problematic than Odin, but her existence means that for an aggro deck to be viable, they need all the reach available. But she's not mandatory in any deck, imo
In hindsight yeah they should've given burst damage by class instead of in general. Hope I make sense
Odin is problematic because he sees play in virtually every single deck, sometimes even SB rune, and is hard to play around because a lot of decks can't build up a ward wall to prevent the damage
Haven, Sword and, most recently, Abyss have tools to play around Odin
Seems pretty clear to me that they want every class to have burst
Because that's the reality right now ๐
she isnt as bad but shes another one of these cards that can do nearly everything and shes neutral
makes it hard to play around her
Well, playing around her turn 10 burst is easy unless you're facing Rune. Then it's a coinflip as to whether or not you're dead on turn 10

Playing around her ability to stabilize is hard unless you're dragon
Definitely, considering their 10 turn philosophy. altho by giving all classes straight odin it's hard to balance. Welp cygames made their own bed
Honestly I missed SV but when I watched a streamer playing crest haven I think I don't miss it too much 
control is fun when youre the one doing it 
*playing against, but yeah dru
I see a pretty healthy blend of haven, sword, rune & abyss in ranked
The other 3 are rare. Tempo forest seems to have died down in popularity lately
Shit was free CR for Dragon, tbh
Midrange abyss is very favored against crest haven
most aggro is if they dont draw well
Nah, they can stabilize against normal aggro decks. They can't really stabilize against Loot Sword if they have octrice, sinciro & albert.
Midrange abyss has a lot of 4 hp+ units and even if haven draws every unholy vessel in their top 15, they can still just die
Like there's a reason aggro abyss disappeared from the meta. It cannot keep up with haven.
well I dont know what the other abyss on ladder is right now is but I for sure lose way more against that one 
Ah yeah funny you mentioned this I actually was hating on midrange too
3 taunts outta nowhere. But when I quit people said they're weak
I was vindicated
Crest Haven shouldn't really be losing against Mode Abyss. That's a bit Haven favored since the abyss player has to otk with rulenye or lose.
nah I meant mode was the easy one
Oh okay. Yeah, if you see more midrange, it's because that deck has more winning match ups.
Only really loses to mode abyss if they can't kill 'em before ginsetsu. Honestly, even the mode abyss player high rolling into a turn 7 faith completion is rough
Objectively speaking 4/7 classes see play ain't that bad

i personally think puppet cat is dogshit
u rarely get value from that +3 puppet effect
because u pretty much only get value from this on turn 9 +
on 9 with super evolved orchis its basically ehnanced puppett
slightly better goblin basically but i never even played goblin in puppets
It's a much needed 1 drop at worst
Liam still needs Evo so I don't think u want 3 of him, 2 is perfect
it's not a puppet so it doesn't get bane from orchis it's just a copium combo with her since you can build 0pp puppets with noah drops
i guess though it can replace the goblin in puppet decks now since it has rush

it would be much better if they just removed the whole copium combo with super evo and just gave it storm so puppet has a quickblader
exact lethal on my very last turn 
ye its def better than goblin
it's easier to do the copium dream combo but it still requires the enemy to have something with 6+ atk on the board and for you to not be dead turn 10
but you can do from 12 to 16 damage turn 10 with orchis
and you can do orchis into liam into orchis+cats
maybe puppets can be viable with the next set
you still have pretty shit turns 4 to 7 so you can just die on the spot
I went 2-2. Lost to a midrange abyss mirror and sword.
is mode abyss actually good? i fell to ultimate playing this garbage 
maybe im just bad
haven seems impossible to beat
sword too
It's good but I think you're right that midrange and mode should swap places on most tier lists.
mode abyss is alright but it has a really shitty MU vs haven and rune for sure
Mode can't really beat haven without early quest completion or the rulenye otk
lowkey i think mid range is just straight up better
Mode just doesn't generate enough early/midgame pressure to threaten rune
Beating sword is just a matter of drawing Gilnelise and surviving until ginsetsu
Well, I'd say midrange has less survivability but far more lethal potential
mid ragne has early pressure tho
mode doesnt
best u can do is dump that devotee thing and pump it
well yeah u contest board but u kinda lose if they play turn 1 quickblade in my experience
or u unlock the 3rc eye
if not its winnabel
Mode is definitely overrated imo.
how dare you
i learned the hard way yea
I dunno why you kept playing it if it was tanking your cr, though
bell ringer bouta beat yo ass
What tilt does to a mf i guess
mode seems like its barely scraping as tier 2

well its fine only lost 150cr
Nah, it shits on basically everything else. Well, fennie dragon is 50/50. Storm dragon needs to ramp to 8 pp, play Jerry and find raio
Not beating post faith abyss otherwise
man who plays dragon 
I do
i do sometimes
you and the other 5 people in ultimate 
made 3 foil galmeuix too row/e her name is
u find a lot of dragons in 1500 rating tho
It's underpowered but a lot of people just run bad lists
Turn 1 Ivory dragon has unironically helped me get lethal before fellas start healing
Well, nothing beats quickblader because it has storm
was there a card that has drain and rush in the previous game 
Abyss really does not need blood wolf
yes it does
Yes, actually
Lemme find my old control blood decklist
lowkey
gimmie that old base set card from sv1
that 9 cost 5/5 vampire lady that did 5 heal 5
idk if she even be good here but gimmie it anyways
vlad cant hit face
well vlad is only a silver card unfortunately
ye
abyss needs more drain cards 
Eh. Gilnelise is already enough of a nuisance.
gilne was made so sword cant be S+ tier
Also, I don't like how sword was dumbed down in this game by removing commanders
Terrible idea
I think certain cards like Roland might get re-printed but she won't have the commander keyword
Roland would singlehandedly prevent most otk's outside of astaroth's
Would also just destroy roach
Yup.
i like the idea of control sword
midrange was strong cause we didnt have strong control decks like we do now
This was a control sword list i used in sv1
i was looking for wincon but i saw albert
what does that reduce damage to 0 mean
ur leader cant take damage?
Sword could also cheese games with a bladed hedgehog that just gets out of control
It means that if it attacks a follower, Albert doesn't take damage. Could still be destroyed by bane.
No, this Grimnir was way better
It's 4 damage to everything on 10. Leader included.
Our version of grimnir is only better for crest haven
Worse for everyone else. Well, midrange sword could also use grimnir but tbh
I often found that I rarely needed the extra aoe on a rallied gildaria
saves you a 2/2 sometimes 
grimnir is only better for haven because haven has units that deal aoe already
just more aoe on top of aoe
Well, it's mostly for the permanent crest. That's actually the only permanent crest they can get without spending evo
oh yea that too i forgot about the crest thing 
it was always great for haven cause salefa 3 aoe wasnt clearing shit by herself
Cosplaying crest haven with a Jerry deck is also amusing
yea its almost always worth it just for extra board clear if anything
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lemao
she's a mix of the kill la kill character
its a buff now u can turn 3 liu feng and pray 
never seen this fairy art before 
It's from sv1
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do u even read ? 
its not just about that u can also combo later turns with her with something
u can do forxample for 6 ocean rider + liu feng
These people not only don't read but they don't play dragon at even an intermediate level
No point explaining
Alright Liu feng is staple now i guess
Personally, I'm not convinced liu feng belongs in storm dragon but I'll try it out
Tomorrow ill try too
"snowball hard", yeah, no. The buff is good but this is an exaggeration.
Yeah if u dont have dragonsign at turn 3
also if u going first
on 4
u can do her + 1 mana removal
before
it was omega akward
play her on 4
if u had nothing else in hand
Lol it was really awkward
ye
u literally skipped turn and u lost the game after that basically
if they had something on board
i feel like currently
merman is most important card in dragon
if u dont have that at 5 pp u kinda cooked
pretty sure your winrate is reduced by a lot
if u dont play merman on curve
hes basically zirconia for dragon
sardine swing 
Galmieux is perfectly fine on 5 as well. Especially in the mirror match-up because playing galmieux on 5 if your dragon opponent ramped prevents them from playing Forte.
You only really need Merman on 5 against tempo forest and sword.
if you're going second you can turn 3 dragonsign get + 1 pp slot so turn 4 you have 5pp you can coin into another dragonsign + liu evo to have 8 pp turn 5 
you drop the tenka muni and it's gg game over
i'd say it's a good buff given that games like that can happen after it's out
and since most decks have 1 follower drop around that curve you could even just fennie super early
it's still just two cards so just like how portal can go to turn 8 without getting eggs you can just not get the ramp cards but now you can just snowball right away if you get dragonsign 2x + liu + some fish or filene start thanks to the buff
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nice odin oguri and ding dong haru
and you wont have to pay for them 
i may end up buying the BP now for that leader lol

now s++ 
Can't do that when abe & I are the only ones who grind past 20k grp

Reaching s+ is already difficult enough
yeah
like my guild is like yo just hit S and we kinda dapper off lol
rewards good enough
Me grinding past 20k is just a consequence of trying to hit Beyond on Dragon. But right now, I don't play that much past dailies to avoid tilting all the way back down to 1500
Liu Feng would not significantly affect the performance of storm dragon, which is what I play. Ivory Dragon has been the biggest reason why I can maintain ultimate.
At best, I could fit in 2 Liu Fengs by cutting 1 ocean rider and 1 Jerry
just hold on the time is coming !
i wonder if they gonna release this shit at the end of month again tho
Release what?
well depending how long the season is I might still go for gm at least
Ends at the end of October
Reminder that gm3 is 100k after reaching gm0 and these sleeves are limited time only.
yea, I meant just gm
aint now way Im getting another 100k
It's not that hard, tbh. I hit master in the 1st week of release. But it requires playing much more than you currently do.
Also, mp gain in gm is a bit different. Before that point, mp gain is largely influenced by your group. In gm, since groups are gone, it's influenced by winstreaking
CR does not affect mp gain
they are free ?
they free ?
yeah going for gm is good because you don't have to grind in groups anymore
so if you like to play decks that are not good your cr on that class will eventually just drop until you reach all the other people that play bad decks or are just bad at the game 
Anyone tryna play some matches?
i'm waiting until the update to try the new puppet decks 
Won't be much that's new about it outside of running puppet cats and adding 2-3 liams since you can directly follow up orchis with him now instead of needing to rely on double orchis.
I'm currently addicted to Hades 2 
That's next on my to-do list.
It's a lot of fun
if you liked the first one you'd like this one for sure
Is the patch today btw
Maybe I'm finally gonna play portal since I do have all puppet cards
pretty sure they are, you will unlock them by logging in and doing some event quests basically
problem with hades 2 for me is weapons
What's wrong with the weapons 
ehh like its wierd
u got the jet back shit a big slow sword daggers
a wand nothing im super interested in
Hm, apparently, I started back at 1650 after ending at 1790 last night.
Not sure if people who end at legendary or beyond start higher than 1650
Just gonna farm the portal players with dragon.
Should probably add back in 3rd Neptune to counter Orchis
yeah i prefer melee
are changes out already ?
Yup.
my cr started at 1750 so i guess its not fully reset
Seems to move fellas one tier down then
So 1750 is probably the highest anyone can start at
Undecided if I should buy the alt art for dragonsign
do ranks always get reset in the middle of the season? 
This would be the first time.
Puppet players everywhere today. Surely @fading echo should be more than satisfied now.
oh, so its probably just because of the balance change 
No, I wouldn't say that. This will probably be the norm going forward.
I c
it's great 
Grinding back to GM3 would probably get me another seer's globe, so I'll probably do that
not 2 bad
portal novelty in ranked was fun for the first few hours now everyone is back to the regular programming 
portal still lose to haven right
They'd need to draw their burst on time and puppets are not good at soaking the damage from marwynn crest.
Puppet portal should probably be running 2-3 copies of Jerry as a plan B.
Think the most damage you can pull off with a puppet cat combo is 16, assuming you drew one Noah and haven has bodies on board for you to suicide puppet cat and Lloyd into
Not realistic in most games since Lloyd has 6 health and the only units that would have that much atk power are Jeanne and Marwyn/Wilbert post evo
But like I've mentioned before, Haven is not the only thing on ladder.
Still doing just fine with dragon. Sounds like skill issues to me.
jerry?
Not necessarily.
Only thing Liu Feng actually helps with is getting to 8 pp faster, since you do not want to evo jerry before that point.
Abyss & Forest seem to have completely disappeared from ranked, even though I think they'd both shit on puppet bandwagoners right now.
@umbral seal whats the thought process behind jerry ?
like u evo at 8 and try to use his win con? that doesnt sound good on paper
though to be fair evoing at 8 sometimes is a bit late to win with deckout if your enemy has otk/consistent face damage
yeah i think deckout is 2 late atp
unless its like idk mode abyss where u can drag it out maybe
but not in general
egg jerry and tempo forest as far as i've seen just evo when they get hit by a board shift like A&G and similar
hopefully dragon gets more juice next month
they gotta make it good with the hot new leader right?
SURELY
arent puppets actually good into midabyss
because they can actually remove their early stuff
puppets early game will always be strong even just on their trade value
ye thats why i thinjk it can be pretty good vs abyss because they cant push early dmg but on other hand cerberus kinda counter orchis pretty well
You only Jerry if you see no way to win with your current hand. This is especially true against match ups like haven & mode.
It's funny that you think you can only win by deckout with the Jerry deck. I've often won normally with it, because it's endless gas.
No, because midrange abyss has a lot of out-of-hand damage and their only source of healing is Sylvia & eudie evo. Not sure if new puppet decks found a way to make room for Gilnelise.
Currently, Zwei is finally annoying enough to be a real legendary, so that helps puppets not waste too many of their in-hand resources.
i think jerry is fine by himself to like him giving you 1 cost targeted removal is good too
Sure, and that's what he's primarily used for if I already have enough storm in my hand to win
However, if I'm on my last evo and my opponent is nowhere close to dead, Jerry is by-far your best option as an aggro deck
You're just not going to win otherwise.
loot sword may infact be broken as fuck lol

dude i was on vacation and my last boss snitched on me and tried getting me fired because i played shadowverse at work after i was done and there was nothing else to do for the rest of the day
Never trust anyone at work. The restroom is your best friend.
Very draw dependent. They realistically only need 3 cards to kill you. Octrice spell, Sinciro super evo & albert.
But the deck lacks draw power compared to classic midrange sword and has a bit less board pressure (still has zirc)/late game staying power (doesn't have gildaria). That's all exchanged for more midgame damage.
But it's not what I'd call broken.
i mean if he had all work done there is no problem
they can snitch all they want
bro was able to hit me for 12 on turn 6 lol
While I personally agree, this isn't how most supervisors/bosses operate.
If you're not on your lunch break or not off work, don't let anyone catch you doing shit that could get you in trouble.
rare case of skullfane not being a brick 
cerberus countered
buff cerb
play it up

seems like you can just farm it by playing suicide decks against each other in the guild 

wtf
I'm down to help with the guild suicide farming
drink the punch
only once per day
can run it 3 times cause table is an option
other 2 are normal shit
jesus, this guy must play take two 24/7 with that mp 
honestly u only need guild members once for this event
mp didnt reset for take 2 last patch right?
90k in a month sounds doable tbh
in take two you also lose rp/mp though
unless its different if youre already master
also you have to somehow not run out of rubies to keep playing it 
lowkey draw in this game is rigged
every time i toss a high cost card i get one back on muligin
good one lol
what is wrong with people man
take like 8 years to play the 1 card we all know u have
he got rank 1 portal with this deck 
zamn
just realized loot sword is way faster for doing the play x spells quest 
Loot sword is pag
wait thats pretty good
people who play in that mmr this early into the season was prob 1.9k before the reset
A lot of sword lists don't run centaur so people usually don't play around it
Centaur also tends to stay stuck in your hand unless it gives you lethal
The sword lists that run tablet definitely have centaur, though.
i hate tablet after a losestreak where i table 3 times and still does nothing
cus its all bottom deck
tablet is kinda hit or miss
That's been the case since the new season started
It didn't just happen
yeah personally im fine with it
they dont have anything for Valse 
the 5 cost lego tho
very strong if no removal for all

u mean zwei?
yeah if u dont remove her it can be annoying if u cant get rid of vicky for some reason its an auto lose but i never seen that happen
yeah
Legoge
Goatdine
abyss that just spams wards is broken
the guy just had wards every single turn to force you to run out of cards to deal with the ward bitch
it's a pretty good idea to counter puppet gamers went 3-1 on tournament
ya im pretty sure mode abyss also shits on puppets
wydm lol
i mean i guess if its mode u can loop bell ringer with chaos sure
but u just stalling
close call 
gil really do be ruining fellas days lol
yeah u can just win trade
the rewards arnt insane so idc 2 much
2xko out tmr anyways
@cursive crypt trade with me 

yeah free shit i need more for next set
ye i been kinda slacking i only have 20k gold rn
but i got like 60k vials should be good no matter what
I have 3k gold because i was rolling for set 2 leaders 
who's pengin from the guild?
Idk lol
first time I got one of those
, only took 300+ packs in total 
Poggers
too bad you cant turn it into vials or something since I have no use for it 
did you get the battlepass?
i love abyss so much can't wait until handless is back
nope, entirely f2p so far
free stuff 
Oguri as odin makes odin more likable big brain move
i already like Odin
as a loot sword player

are these all for free even avatars ?
Idk about avatars but card skins are free
pretty sure they said everything was free 
What's the point of guilds if there's no guild war events.
brotherrrr
whyyyy
everything one the same fucking day
xdd
Wait the leak was real

everything what? 
idk man
2xko bp 14 shit
uhhh
something else im forgetting but ye everything this month is like at the same time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS5VQPHLCFE intern uploaded the wrong trailer
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oh nvm my youtube was just bugged 
it was showing that one as the uma collab
yeah it should be today sometime
hope i can bang it out in 1 day 2 much going on
oh right
and sonic racing has another festival
the collab tasks are super free, like expected as well https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01K6VRT1ERVZQFF60QDCK9NBSP
sames
decent
xdd
dailies to GM yippie
Damn reward is nice broo
two legendaries I didnt own yet 
Wtf its different lol
consistent rewards in a gacha game 
but an easy event with good rewards is nice for once 
hm
so u dont do anything
u just login ok thats cool lol
not bad
free vials basically best thing u can get in this game tbh
i hate table match mfers man
like just end the game nobody is trying to play fr
I always play real matches
And I often encounter many people want the same
Speak for yourself and yourself only
thats why I use a suicide deck, so they realize pretty quickly whats going on
thats the problem
with aggro you put bodies on the field
thinking you are playing for real
nope its a waste of time for everyone just play ranked atp
best case is you draw benison in your first hand and then it doesnt take long
yeh
The lobby is a testing environment for me
tnh1 is the code for my suicide deck, its not perfect but it gets the job done 
I can 100 matches in 1 day
oh sure thanks
None is a waste

also thats separate from the event with the actual tasks
that one will unlock a bit later
well the oguri is in login thats all i wanted tbh
just the sleeve and not the odin later on? 
i thought that was the odin
but yea the tasks are so easy its hard to miss them regardless
nah, the login is just for sleeves and the icons
3 hours I think
oh
forcing me to actually play the tournament this time to get all the collab stuff 
bro i literally fuck this cockroach guy
with Filene spell

also i just threw in bodies at him with fennie dragon
bottom deck fennie is literally joever man
I dislike playing Fennie because the deck feels awful if you don't have Fennie on curve
Rather play the aggro list
Any list
Pretty sure I've posted multiple dragon lists in here before. Let me login.
yeah i bottom fennie 3 times in a row 
Again, I dislike playing this deck but this has been my most successful version of it












