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gritty anvil
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but nothing crazy

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was he really using that all the time ?

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is roach really that strong still ?

cursive crypt
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nah roach is kinda meh

gritty anvil
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but look at this guy

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CR

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and winstreak

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i like titania

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thats good tech vs haven

cursive crypt
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maybe he didndt run into many swords Shrugeg

gritty anvil
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and abyss

gritty anvil
cursive crypt
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horrible yeah

gritty anvil
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man i wish i could play roach like i like idea of deck but im just too slow

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to do turns

cursive crypt
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abyss is bad too since they can build walls every turn

gritty anvil
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i would literlaly need to spam that deck nonstop

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to be good at it

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oh ye

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this mid abyss

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is very strong vs roach

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mode abysss is beter for roach

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but they can still lose

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mode abyss isnt as aggresive early game

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compared to mid

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well more like they dont have sticky boards

cursive crypt
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mode still wins if they have one congregant to stall for turn 9 ginsetsu

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they can freely just gain modes

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cursive crypt
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fuck ioff i was gonna stop after 1950 sheeesh

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w.e surely next game i win

gritty anvil
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im close to GM 3 aswell

gritty anvil
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wtf potwasher is beyond

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with ward haven ?

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well its hybrid crest ward haven

umbral seal
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I prefer facing the hybrid version

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They have less burn damage and I can just blow up aether with Filene

cursive crypt
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i did it Stroneg 3 classes legendary

cursive crypt
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got legendary unironically with rose queen OMEGALUL

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also cant be fucked playing rune this shit is boring to play Deadge and i dont have cards for other classes

mystic tartan
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ho-chan kawai ne

umbral seal
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Not sure which is better when fully animated.

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Neither beats the OG art for Forte, honestly.

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Gonna work on Galmieux after

umbral seal
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Kinda wish seer's globes were a little cheaper. 30k vials is a bit steep.

red plover
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even the resource sinks are overpriced in this game LULE

umbral seal
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Yeah, no kidding.

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Game is hostile to f2p, dolphins and whales

blissful olive
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its not that bad

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i only spent 150 and havent had any problems making anything i want

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but u gotta do ur dailies and shit and blah blah

umbral seal
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I disagree, and I've spent considerably more than that kek

blissful olive
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i mean how

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like u know i barely spent on this game and have kept up with each release very easily

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this set i had 70 packs ready in gold from doing dailies and weekly etc

umbral seal
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Simply "keeping up" is not the point being made here. The point is that, even for people who do spend, the game is overpriced in multiple areas.

blissful olive
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oh sure the prices are fucked up

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but for playing the game keeping up and not having to spend further has not been an issue

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but if i stopped doing dailies it would become an issue evntually

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if they keep sets like 70 cards or so like they have been tho this game wont be 2 bad but for new players good fucking luck lol

umbral seal
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This was one set that should've been larger than 70 cards. It's one of the biggest issues with Destruction Portal right now.

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Undercooked archetype.

blissful olive
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i thought it was going to be yeah

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MAYBE? the october one is cause its a longer wait?

umbral seal
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Potentially but I only ever expect disappointment from Cygames

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We'll see.

umbral seal
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@cursive crypt

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Try it out

unkempt lava
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I have burnout with the game

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Might rejoin at half anniversary if cygames gives free crap like uma musuame

blissful olive
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yeah i barely play recently outside of event or daily

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sometimes i dont even do dailies just get pack and park keys n dip

red plover
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take two is still the most fun Gladge

mystic tartan
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just doing daily

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and waiting for new set

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lul

umbral seal
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Cygames has pretty clearly shown how they want to operate within this game

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There just won't be sv1 levels of generosity, even if the game is legitimately dying

red plover
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expecting any substantial freebies from cygames in this game pepeLaugh

umbral seal
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"not tier 1", btw

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Clean sweep.

red plover
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take two only has master and not gm right HmmTea

umbral seal
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To my knowledge, yes

red plover
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I can get to max rank in take two then PagMan

gritty anvil
mystic tartan
gritty anvil
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bruh

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3 mana liu feng pog

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is puppet buff relevant ?

mystic tartan
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yea

gritty anvil
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@umbral seal thats massive

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now liu feng actually good play on curve

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and on evo turn u can combo her with 1 drop or 2 drop

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wait when are these buff live ?

blissful olive
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li at 3 is kind of crazy

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liam still garbage

gritty anvil
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nah

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becasue u can do orchis into liam

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that seems kinda strong

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u basically now less reliant to draw double orchis to win

blissful olive
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liam is just not good in general

gritty anvil
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its 9 dmg on 9 or 8

blissful olive
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9 cost and requires evo

gritty anvil
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also ward wall

blissful olive
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i'll be surprised if fellas start playing him again only reason he was in base puppet was cause we had no other option

gritty anvil
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if u do odin into orchis into liam

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thats a lot of dmg

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7 8 8

blissful olive
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potentially but we'll see

gritty anvil
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zwei

blissful olive
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i dont think fellas running it

gritty anvil
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now clear 3 stuff

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which is also nice

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on normal evo

blissful olive
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zwei is good yeah

gritty anvil
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shes basically now scuffed AG

blissful olive
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then a bunch of take 2 stuff i see

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yeah i dont think id ever evo her if i can avoid it

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usually u have puppets to throw down in the first place

gritty anvil
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when are these buffs live ?

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do we know

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is it today ?

blissful olive
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says 29th

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so few days

gritty anvil
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im gonna try double liam in puppets

umbral seal
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Zwei is garbage because Victoria gets ward when she wants to hide behind wards.

gritty anvil
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i dont think zwei is garbage

umbral seal
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She is.

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I've explained this multiple times

gritty anvil
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she now give double ward on evo that can be very relevant and clear 3

blissful olive
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sure but no

gritty anvil
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double ward include victoria

blissful olive
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like whos evoing her for a puppet

gritty anvil
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u evoing her for clearing

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but it protect your face

blissful olive
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turn 5 more often than not u dont need evo to clear with a puppet deck

gritty anvil
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odin cant get through

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her now

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on evo

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otherwise u would need to use puppet from hand

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its really good vs zirconia

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zwei now

umbral seal
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The problem is that Zwei's stat line is not large enough to make her scary. She's still a shittier stabilizer than A&G

gritty anvil
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well i mean shes not offensive unit

umbral seal
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This is nuclear grade cope

blissful olive
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lowkey victoria stats is the problem

gritty anvil
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well anyways i think puppets might atleast be better now than eggs

blissful olive
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6/1 is bad

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if they wanna do that and make her good she needs shit like first strike

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gritty anvil
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well 6/1 is bad stat line but atleast it kills stuff and survive a lot of time

blissful olive
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yeah but were talking when u throw zwei out

umbral seal
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Correct. Zwei is the problem, not Victoria

blissful olive
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lowkey both blow cause u have no reason to evo zwei the way u do AG

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and vicky statline gets run over by anything

umbral seal
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Actually, the puppet cat buff is also pretty massive

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Aggro puppets might make a resurgence

blissful olive
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it having rush is cool

umbral seal
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But I'm not sure it'll be good

gritty anvil
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but ye now portal have good curve zwei into noah into odin into orchis into liam still no 4 drop good for puppets Deadge

umbral seal
blissful olive
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u prob wont see puppets still until next set when they get more support

gritty anvil
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im gonna try it

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i have 2 zwei

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i craft one

umbral seal
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Thinking they'll get more support beyond one card kek

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We'll see

gritty anvil
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i dont get why artifact portal

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didnt get single buff

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that deck disapeared

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from meta

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well puppets too

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its just weird all 3 buffs were puppets related

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and not single artifact

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but lets see if this liue feng buff can save dragon

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it should honestly

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now dragon can snowball early

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going first

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well even second

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and if they dont remove her

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u evo face

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and thats gg

umbral seal
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It won't push Fennie ramp higher than t2. Most people have it at t3

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Does nothing for storm dragon because there's no room for liu feng in that deck

blissful olive
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fellas playing her on turn 3 tho chances are she gonna die before evo

gritty anvil
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well yes

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but i mean now its good stated 3 drop

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so it doesnt feel bad

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to play on curve

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like when i play puppets or eggs quite a lot of time she survive

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eudie

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even if she dies before evo liu feng but u hit atleast once face

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its good enough

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also in overflow turns

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shes now 3 mana 5 removal

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which is not bad

blissful olive
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eudie is prob the best 3 drop lowkey

gritty anvil
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ye eudie is very good

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i think octrice is better 3 drop

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rn

umbral seal
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So now they have to make the choice to trade into it or go face

blissful olive
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lowkey u gotta

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or u taking 5 in the mouth next turn

gritty anvil
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ye when she was 4 drop u could never do this

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even if u go first

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she always died

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before she could evo or go face

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they traded into her on evo

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and she did nothing

umbral seal
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This does mean that ramp decks definitely want to play 3 copies now. A lot of Fennie decks have been running 2, myself included

gritty anvil
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ye i think now u gonna play 3

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in every dragon

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she would be played lowkey now even in aggro

umbral seal
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No.

gritty anvil
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well i guess aggro doesnt really need to ramp at all

umbral seal
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Reason being that ocean rider & eyfa are better cards. In storm/aggro, you only want to ramp once so you can play garyu on your first super evo

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Otherwise, you can't

gritty anvil
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they also have otohime amulet

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which is also 3 drop play

umbral seal
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I don't even play that anymore and I've been having more success

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Playing ivory dragon on turn 1 has won me far more games

gritty anvil
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in aggro dragon ?

fading echo
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garbage buff

gritty anvil
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btw for example haven cant really kill liu feng on 3 right ?

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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unless they use aoe

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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well u could technically replace dragonsigns with her now

umbral seal
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Uh, no because dragonsign doesn't require an evo

gritty anvil
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but its not body

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so pick your poison

umbral seal
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In most games, if I have to evo liu feng, that means I'm not evolving merman or galmieux on my first evo

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Which means I will lose against most decks

gritty anvil
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thing is even if u dont reamp in this deck at all

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u still fine

umbral seal
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Replace dragonsign with liu feng and tell me how that works out

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It is a terrible idea

umbral seal
# gritty anvil u still fine

It's only fine if you don't draw garyu. If you draw garyu, like I said earlier, you want to ramp at least once

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Otherwise, you have to wait a turn before you can super evo him

gritty anvil
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u haveo nly 4 8 drops in this deck

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for jery i guess it matter if u ramped

warped granite
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Liu Feng ramp doesn't need Evo right?

gritty anvil
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because u can play sooner

warped granite
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At 3 mana she's quite good right

gritty anvil
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more expensive stuff

fading echo
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at least they buffed portal but the buffs don't do anything imo this game needs nerfs way more than buffs

blissful olive
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it does need evo

gritty anvil
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from jery deck

umbral seal
gritty anvil
umbral seal
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Because I don't want to play jerry, immediately draw raio and then pitch him

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Raio will win you the game if you play him

fading echo
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benediction still healing 10 hp for free if you have full crests skipping ranked until the next balance patch LULE

gritty anvil
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well i dont think this buff make dragon magically tier higher

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but it def helps

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actually dragon might be now middle tier instead of bottom

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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btw also she trade into grimnir and survive thats also huge

warped granite
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Ahh I see, would've been insane if you can drop her at 3 and she ramped without evo kek

umbral seal
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Otherwise, you just have to otk them. Mode Abyss, Rune, Fennie Dragon & Forest all have otks

warped granite
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Like dragonsign with a body

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But there are more options with her now ig

umbral seal
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This is why I say some of you fellas should just quit permanently

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It's like y'all are new to online card games

fading echo
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the meta right now would be great if crest haven didn't exist

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idk why you think complaining about the objectively broken deck is bitching OMEGALUL

umbral seal
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Crest Haven is slightly overpowered but it's not making ranked unplayable for me. And I play Dragon.

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It's not broken.

fading echo
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yeah every dragon card has more stats than half the portal deck combinedOMEGALUL

blissful olive
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portal has no big fellas

fading echo
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i wouldn't complain about haven either if i could just fennie and drop two genesis face LULE

gritty anvil
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ye tehre are decks that favorable againts haven

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if deck had literally no bad match up it would be problem but thats not the case

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is it annoying to play againts yes

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its unbeatable no

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i called this ahead that i dont think anything gets nerfed because meta overall isnt that bad and instead they just buffed stuff

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which is fair

fading echo
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all the top portal players i used to watch for decks just gave up on making portal decks and are just playing jerry egg because it's easier to win with jerry decking out than portal having lethal OMEGALUL

umbral seal
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Because, contrary to how you're making it seem, Haven is far from the only thing in ranked

fading echo
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i know but it's the only deck that feels boring to fight against

umbral seal
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It's a control deck. That's how it is.

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Seeing warrior stack armor every turn wasn't fun in Hearthstone either

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Ramp Dragon in SV1 would ramp to 10 quickly, drop bahamut and there was nothing most decks could realistically do with 5-6pp

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Only thing that would placate portal players right now would be either Maisha or Absolute Tolerance. Both are otk's.

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There's already too many otk's in this game, considering that we're only on set 3. OTK meta might not be that far from the future

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And I doubt you'll like that either

fading echo
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i would probably like it if portal also had one peepoShrug

mystic tartan
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either way i hope Dragon top tier

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next set

gritty anvil
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top tier ?

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oh next set

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is dragon only craft that wasnt top tier yet ?

mystic tartan
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yeah

gritty anvil
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all other crafts had top tier during sets right

mystic tartan
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its A at best

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tbh i cheese so much with Forte

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cus when no counter it just hits

umbral seal
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Haven't been in this CR in so long

umbral seal
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  1. People who didn't experience t1 dragon in SV1 | 2. People who main dragon
mystic tartan
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yeah i main dragon now

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and i didnt play SV1

umbral seal
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Printing more ramp for dragon is only problematic because Fennie exists. If you can reliably play Fennie without taking too much damage, the tempo you get from discounted high cost cards is too high for most decks to overcome

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And that's not including the fact that you can get otk'd even if you deal with the post fennie board flood

mystic tartan
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lol it reminds me when i ramp once and double garyu (im 2nd)

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shit is strong

umbral seal
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Playing double garyu is similar to playing double cerb, except for the fact that you can't play cerb on your first super evo

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Too much for most decks to deal with

mystic tartan
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dai kyonyuu

warped granite
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That's sus Mr rdine

umbral seal
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In other news, all my Fortes are animated now

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Time to work on Galmieux

cursive crypt
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bro these changes are a bunch of nothing OMEGALUL

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portal will be more op in take 2 i guess

umbral seal
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Bad take.

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Liu Feng: significant buff. Likely 3x in any every ramp deck as opposed to 2. Undecided if she replaces dragon sign in storm dragon. Liam: still trash imo. Puppet cat: significant buff that will likely lead to the return of aggro puppets. Zwei: still ass, imo, but it'll help with portal reaching lethal if evo'd zwei can hit face while being guarded by puppets.

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Jerry was OP in take two so I'm not surprised by that change.

cursive crypt
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liu feng still needs evo right?

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its better later on i guess if you arent playing fennie

umbral seal
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Sure. That's irrelevant. Her being 3 pp means you can freely play her on curve. This is important where tempo matters and you cannot afford to use an evo on her.

cursive crypt
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i agree that puppet cat and liam buff will matter, but its still puppet in the end Shrugeg

umbral seal
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In a lot of match ups, you need to save your evo for merman and/or galmieux because they help stabilize the board. Liu Feng does not.

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While dragon sign's ramp is immediate, playing an on-curve liu feng at 3, especially if you're going second, means that a sword player, for example, has to decide between trading (if they don't have valse) or going face

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I see a lot of sword players going face when I have filene otb even though it means their octrice dies

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Similar situation

cursive crypt
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thats true ye now playing liu feng without evoing wont feel like shit \

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playing her on curve with evo feels like shit already imagine playing it on 4 when u arent going 2nd OMEGALUL

umbral seal
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My storm list runs fighter to play on 4

cursive crypt
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but fighter is good Okayge

umbral seal
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I had a haven player concede on turn 5 because I swarmed the board with ivory dragon, filene, ocean rider, fighter, they played their board wipe and I just evo'd fighter to go face for 7

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Guess they thought they couldn't recover from that

cursive crypt
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ye if they dont have a 2 or 3 drop its doomed vs aggro

umbral seal
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I also just straight up keep odin in my mulligan against haven

cursive crypt
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hmm idk i dont really do that PepoThink maybe if my hand is already good enough i would

umbral seal
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Well, if you're going first, you can't counter a coined Wilbert

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Dragon can.

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Which is why I do it.

cursive crypt
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yeah fair

mystic tartan
umbral seal
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Honestly, the one nerf I wanted more than anything was a nerf to Odin

red plover
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legendary neutrals with way too much versatility are the norm now I guess LULE

umbral seal
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I just think he's bad for the game

red plover
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haven finally getting 5 redraws back Gladge wish they just kept it at 5 before lowering next patch again

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surely the next normal legendary wont be in most decks again clueless

umbral seal
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I think they expected Haven to no longer need it, considering the strength of Crest Haven in constructed. But things don't always pan out that way.

umbral seal
warped granite
umbral seal
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Odin is problematic because he sees play in virtually every single deck, sometimes even SB rune, and is hard to play around because a lot of decks can't build up a ward wall to prevent the damage

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Haven, Sword and, most recently, Abyss have tools to play around Odin

umbral seal
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Because that's the reality right now ๐Ÿ™ƒ

red plover
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makes it hard to play around her

mystic tartan
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yeah fuck Gilnelise

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my aggro strat

umbral seal
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Well, playing around her turn 10 burst is easy unless you're facing Rune. Then it's a coinflip as to whether or not you're dead on turn 10

mystic tartan
umbral seal
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Playing around her ability to stabilize is hard unless you're dragon

warped granite
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Honestly I missed SV but when I watched a streamer playing crest haven I think I don't miss it too much KEK

red plover
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control is fun when youre the one doing it Okayeg

warped granite
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*playing against, but yeah dru

umbral seal
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I see a pretty healthy blend of haven, sword, rune & abyss in ranked

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The other 3 are rare. Tempo forest seems to have died down in popularity lately

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Shit was free CR for Dragon, tbh

umbral seal
red plover
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most aggro is if they dont draw well

umbral seal
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Nah, they can stabilize against normal aggro decks. They can't really stabilize against Loot Sword if they have octrice, sinciro & albert.

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Midrange abyss has a lot of 4 hp+ units and even if haven draws every unholy vessel in their top 15, they can still just die

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Like there's a reason aggro abyss disappeared from the meta. It cannot keep up with haven.

red plover
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well I dont know what the other abyss on ladder is right now is but I for sure lose way more against that one LULE

warped granite
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I was vindicated

umbral seal
red plover
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nah I meant mode was the easy one

umbral seal
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Oh okay. Yeah, if you see more midrange, it's because that deck has more winning match ups.

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Only really loses to mode abyss if they can't kill 'em before ginsetsu. Honestly, even the mode abyss player high rolling into a turn 7 faith completion is rough

warped granite
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Objectively speaking 4/7 classes see play ain't that bad

red plover
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isnt it only portal thats struggling the most

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at least cr wise

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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u rarely get value from that +3 puppet effect

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because u pretty much only get value from this on turn 9 +

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on 9 with super evolved orchis its basically ehnanced puppett

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slightly better goblin basically but i never even played goblin in puppets

gritty anvil
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do u think liam should be now 3 copies ?

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prolly not right

cursive crypt
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Liam still needs Evo so I don't think u want 3 of him, 2 is perfect

fading echo
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i guess though it can replace the goblin in puppet decks now since it has rush

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it would be much better if they just removed the whole copium combo with super evo and just gave it storm so puppet has a quickblader

red plover
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exact lethal on my very last turn LULE

gritty anvil
fading echo
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it's easier to do the copium dream combo but it still requires the enemy to have something with 6+ atk on the board and for you to not be dead turn 10

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but you can do from 12 to 16 damage turn 10 with orchis

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and you can do orchis into liam into orchis+cats

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maybe puppets can be viable with the next set

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you still have pretty shit turns 4 to 7 so you can just die on the spot

blissful olive
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is this any1 from here?

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keeps trying to add me like almost every day

blissful olive
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ez sweep lol

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all 3 games was haven

umbral seal
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New CR record letsgo

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Still no forest wins kek

mystic tartan
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bruh unlucky gran prix

umbral seal
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I went 2-2. Lost to a midrange abyss mirror and sword.

cursive crypt
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is mode abyss actually good? i fell to ultimate playing this garbage ICANT

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maybe im just bad

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haven seems impossible to beat

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sword too

umbral seal
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It's good but I think you're right that midrange and mode should swap places on most tier lists.

blissful olive
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mode abyss is alright but it has a really shitty MU vs haven and rune for sure

cursive crypt
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yeah i forgot rune matchup is fucking ass too

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how is it rated so high

umbral seal
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Mode can't really beat haven without early quest completion or the rulenye otk

blissful olive
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lowkey i think mid range is just straight up better

umbral seal
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Mode just doesn't generate enough early/midgame pressure to threaten rune

blissful olive
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yeah

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shit take 2 long mode abyss is in the long game kinda

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and rune just wins

umbral seal
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Beating sword is just a matter of drawing Gilnelise and surviving until ginsetsu

cursive crypt
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thats the same with midrange too

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u have to draw aragavy and gilne

umbral seal
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Well, I'd say midrange has less survivability but far more lethal potential

blissful olive
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mid ragne has early pressure tho

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mode doesnt

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best u can do is dump that devotee thing and pump it

cursive crypt
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well yeah u contest board but u kinda lose if they play turn 1 quickblade in my experience

blissful olive
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or u unlock the 3rc eye

cursive crypt
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if not its winnabel

umbral seal
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Mode is definitely overrated imo.

blissful olive
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how dare you

cursive crypt
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i learned the hard way yea

umbral seal
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I dunno why you kept playing it if it was tanking your cr, though

blissful olive
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bell ringer bouta beat yo ass

umbral seal
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What tilt does to a mf i guess

cursive crypt
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mode seems like its barely scraping as tier 2

umbral seal
blissful olive
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mode just really threatening until 10 stacks

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not*

cursive crypt
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well its fine only lost 150cr

umbral seal
blissful olive
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u know what would save mode abyss

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blood wolf tap in

umbral seal
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Not beating post faith abyss otherwise

cursive crypt
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man who plays dragon OMEGALUL

umbral seal
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I do

blissful olive
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i do sometimes

cursive crypt
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you and the other 5 people in ultimate truetrue

blissful olive
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made 3 foil galmeuix too row/e her name is

cursive crypt
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u find a lot of dragons in 1500 rating tho

blissful olive
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dont worry

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next set dragon top 1

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this time frfr

umbral seal
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It's underpowered but a lot of people just run bad lists

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Turn 1 Ivory dragon has unironically helped me get lethal before fellas start healing

blissful olive
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yeah its like quickblade

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n later fella can fake draw cards

umbral seal
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Well, nothing beats quickblader because it has storm

blissful olive
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yi

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wheres blood wolf man

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make abyss great again

cursive crypt
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was there a card that has drain and rush in the previous game PepoThink

umbral seal
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Abyss really does not need blood wolf

blissful olive
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yes it does

blissful olive
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F tier

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only blood bidfj can save now

umbral seal
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Lemme find my old control blood decklist

blissful olive
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lowkey

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gimmie that old base set card from sv1

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that 9 cost 5/5 vampire lady that did 5 heal 5

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idk if she even be good here but gimmie it anyways

cursive crypt
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u have vlad now dont you

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its 8 vost heal 5

blissful olive
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vlad cant hit face

umbral seal
cursive crypt
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well vlad is only a silver card unfortunately

blissful olive
#

ye

cursive crypt
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abyss needs more drain cards truetrue

umbral seal
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Eh. Gilnelise is already enough of a nuisance.

blissful olive
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abyss needs super cerberus

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slam it on the table the pups have storm

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send it

cursive crypt
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gilne was made so sword cant be S+ tier

umbral seal
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Also, I don't like how sword was dumbed down in this game by removing commanders

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Terrible idea

blissful olive
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chance we get them in another set

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but we going on 3rd set now so maybe not

umbral seal
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I think certain cards like Roland might get re-printed but she won't have the commander keyword

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Roland would singlehandedly prevent most otk's outside of astaroth's

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Would also just destroy roach

cursive crypt
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did every class use to have their own control archetype

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that isnt a meme

umbral seal
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Yup.

cursive crypt
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i like the idea of control sword

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midrange was strong cause we didnt have strong control decks like we do now

cursive crypt
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i was looking for wincon but i saw albert

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what does that reduce damage to 0 mean

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ur leader cant take damage?

umbral seal
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Sword could also cheese games with a bladed hedgehog that just gets out of control

cursive crypt
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grimnir is there too Stroneg

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kinda shittier version of him

umbral seal
umbral seal
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It's 4 damage to everything on 10. Leader included.

cursive crypt
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oh wtf it includes leader

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ok nvm

umbral seal
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Our version of grimnir is only better for crest haven

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Worse for everyone else. Well, midrange sword could also use grimnir but tbh

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I often found that I rarely needed the extra aoe on a rallied gildaria

cursive crypt
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saves you a 2/2 sometimes Shrugeg

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grimnir is only better for haven because haven has units that deal aoe already

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just more aoe on top of aoe

umbral seal
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Well, it's mostly for the permanent crest. That's actually the only permanent crest they can get without spending evo

cursive crypt
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oh yea that too i forgot about the crest thing OMEGALUL

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it was always great for haven cause salefa 3 aoe wasnt clearing shit by herself

umbral seal
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Cosplaying crest haven with a Jerry deck is also amusing

cursive crypt
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yea its almost always worth it just for extra board clear if anything

mystic tartan
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someone buy me

gritty anvil
mystic tartan
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lemao

brisk adder
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so they just nerf dragon

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and omega buff puppets

brisk adder
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
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welp got 4-0 with sword

red plover
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never seen this fairy art before HmmTea

umbral seal
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It's from sv1

umbral seal
#

I'm curious: if I were to host a Lac Cup for this game with a prize pool, how many of you would be interested?

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1st place: 500 USD, 2nd place: 250 USD, 3rd place: 100 USD

mystic tartan
#

Prob will join for fun LULE

umbral seal
#

So close

gritty anvil
gritty anvil
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u can do forxample for 6 ocean rider + liu feng

umbral seal
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No point explaining

mystic tartan
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Oh yeah ocean rider got buff in overflow

gritty anvil
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its actually pretty big board on 6

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5/5 double 2/2 1/1

mystic tartan
#

Alright Liu feng is staple now i guess

umbral seal
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Personally, I'm not convinced liu feng belongs in storm dragon but I'll try it out

gritty anvil
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i think she should be now in every dragon

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because even on 3 she can snowball hard

mystic tartan
#

Tomorrow ill try too

gritty anvil
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sometimes they just dont have removal for 3 drop thats 3/3

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or board cant fight it

umbral seal
mystic tartan
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Yeah if u dont have dragonsign at turn 3

gritty anvil
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also if u going first

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on 4

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u can do her + 1 mana removal

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before

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it was omega akward

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play her on 4

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if u had nothing else in hand

mystic tartan
#

Lol it was really awkward

gritty anvil
#

ye

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u literally skipped turn and u lost the game after that basically

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if they had something on board

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i feel like currently

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merman is most important card in dragon

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if u dont have that at 5 pp u kinda cooked

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pretty sure your winrate is reduced by a lot

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if u dont play merman on curve

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hes basically zirconia for dragon

red plover
#

sardine swing Wokege

umbral seal
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You only really need Merman on 5 against tempo forest and sword.

fading echo
#

you drop the tenka muni and it's gg game over

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i'd say it's a good buff given that games like that can happen after it's out

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and since most decks have 1 follower drop around that curve you could even just fennie super early

#

it's still just two cards so just like how portal can go to turn 8 without getting eggs you can just not get the ramp cards but now you can just snowball right away if you get dragonsign 2x + liu + some fish or filene start thanks to the buff

cursive crypt
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PagMan new flair

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i started the run 0-1 too ICANT

mystic tartan
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won against Sword with Jerry

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bro ran out of cards

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i eel

red plover
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fading echo
#

nice odin oguri and ding dong haru

red plover
#

and you wont have to pay for them Gladge

blissful olive
#

i may end up buying the BP now for that leader lol

blissful olive
#

cute girls

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they haunt me so

umbral seal
red plover
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now s++ clueless

umbral seal
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Can't do that when abe & I are the only ones who grind past 20k grp

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Reaching s+ is already difficult enough

blissful olive
#

yeah

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like my guild is like yo just hit S and we kinda dapper off lol

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rewards good enough

umbral seal
#

Me grinding past 20k is just a consequence of trying to hit Beyond on Dragon. But right now, I don't play that much past dailies to avoid tilting all the way back down to 1500

blissful olive
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dont worry dragon bouta be S tier

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we got a hot new leader in the BP its a sign

umbral seal
#

Liu Feng would not significantly affect the performance of storm dragon, which is what I play. Ivory Dragon has been the biggest reason why I can maintain ultimate.

#

At best, I could fit in 2 Liu Fengs by cutting 1 ocean rider and 1 Jerry

blissful olive
#

just hold on the time is coming !

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i wonder if they gonna release this shit at the end of month again tho

umbral seal
#

Release what?

red plover
#

well depending how long the season is I might still go for gm at least

umbral seal
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Ends at the end of October

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Reminder that gm3 is 100k after reaching gm0 and these sleeves are limited time only.

red plover
#

yea, I meant just gm LULE aint now way Im getting another 100k

umbral seal
#

It's not that hard, tbh. I hit master in the 1st week of release. But it requires playing much more than you currently do.

#

Also, mp gain in gm is a bit different. Before that point, mp gain is largely influenced by your group. In gm, since groups are gone, it's influenced by winstreaking

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CR does not affect mp gain

unkempt lava
#

Wtf is this

umbral seal
#

Odin & bellringer

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I dunno who asked for this, though

gritty anvil
gritty anvil
umbral seal
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I think so. Wouldn't care if they aren't, though

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Shit "collab"

blissful olive
#

cygames collab with itself

blissful olive
#

Is that oguri as odin lol

#

Ill prob get that then

fading echo
#

so if you like to play decks that are not good your cr on that class will eventually just drop until you reach all the other people that play bad decks or are just bad at the game peepoComfy

umbral seal
#

Anyone tryna play some matches?

fading echo
#

i'm waiting until the update to try the new puppet decks peepoComfy

umbral seal
#

Won't be much that's new about it outside of running puppet cats and adding 2-3 liams since you can directly follow up orchis with him now instead of needing to rely on double orchis.

cursive crypt
#

I'm currently addicted to Hades 2 Okayge

umbral seal
#

That's next on my to-do list.

cursive crypt
#

It's a lot of fun Gladge if you liked the first one you'd like this one for sure

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Is the patch today btw

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Maybe I'm finally gonna play portal since I do have all puppet cards

red plover
blissful olive
#

problem with hades 2 for me is weapons

cursive crypt
#

What's wrong with the weapons donk

blissful olive
#

ehh like its wierd

#

u got the jet back shit a big slow sword daggers

#

a wand nothing im super interested in

cursive crypt
#

do you prefer the melee ones

#

i like the skull and the axe

umbral seal
#

Hm, apparently, I started back at 1650 after ending at 1790 last night.

#

Not sure if people who end at legendary or beyond start higher than 1650

#

Just gonna farm the portal players with dragon.

#

Should probably add back in 3rd Neptune to counter Orchis

blissful olive
#

yeah i prefer melee

gritty anvil
#

are changes out already ?

umbral seal
#

Yup.

cursive crypt
#

my cr started at 1750 so i guess its not fully reset

umbral seal
#

Seems to move fellas one tier down then

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So 1750 is probably the highest anyone can start at

umbral seal
#

Undecided if I should buy the alt art for dragonsign

mystic tartan
#

Ho-chan

red plover
#

do ranks always get reset in the middle of the season? FeelsDankMan

umbral seal
#

This would be the first time.

#

Puppet players everywhere today. Surely @fading echo should be more than satisfied now.

red plover
#

oh, so its probably just because of the balance change HmmTea

umbral seal
#

No, I wouldn't say that. This will probably be the norm going forward.

red plover
#

I c

umbral seal
#

Grinding back to GM3 would probably get me another seer's globe, so I'll probably do that

blissful olive
#

not 2 bad

gritty anvil
#

lmao what i got 2 missing legos

#

daily pack

fading echo
#

portal novelty in ranked was fun for the first few hours now everyone is back to the regular programming lacSleep

gritty anvil
#

portal still lose to haven right

umbral seal
#

They'd need to draw their burst on time and puppets are not good at soaking the damage from marwynn crest.

#

Puppet portal should probably be running 2-3 copies of Jerry as a plan B.

#

Think the most damage you can pull off with a puppet cat combo is 16, assuming you drew one Noah and haven has bodies on board for you to suicide puppet cat and Lloyd into

#

Not realistic in most games since Lloyd has 6 health and the only units that would have that much atk power are Jeanne and Marwyn/Wilbert post evo

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But like I've mentioned before, Haven is not the only thing on ladder.

fading echo
#

getting two back to back is my quota for being done for the day

umbral seal
#

Still doing just fine with dragon. Sounds like skill issues to me.

blissful olive
#

jerry?

umbral seal
#

Not necessarily.

#

Only thing Liu Feng actually helps with is getting to 8 pp faster, since you do not want to evo jerry before that point.

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Abyss & Forest seem to have completely disappeared from ranked, even though I think they'd both shit on puppet bandwagoners right now.

blissful olive
#

@umbral seal whats the thought process behind jerry ?

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like u evo at 8 and try to use his win con? that doesnt sound good on paper

fading echo
#

evoing at 8 is just to not risk wasting raio

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you can evo at 7 with coin

blissful olive
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oh i see

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but then ur still playing into rng

fading echo
#

though to be fair evoing at 8 sometimes is a bit late to win with deckout if your enemy has otk/consistent face damage

blissful olive
#

yeah i think deckout is 2 late atp

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unless its like idk mode abyss where u can drag it out maybe

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but not in general

fading echo
#

egg jerry and tempo forest as far as i've seen just evo when they get hit by a board shift like A&G and similar

blissful olive
#

hopefully dragon gets more juice next month

#

they gotta make it good with the hot new leader right?

#

SURELY

gritty anvil
#

because they can actually remove their early stuff

blissful olive
#

puppets early game will always be strong even just on their trade value

gritty anvil
#

ye thats why i thinjk it can be pretty good vs abyss because they cant push early dmg but on other hand cerberus kinda counter orchis pretty well

umbral seal
#

It's funny that you think you can only win by deckout with the Jerry deck. I've often won normally with it, because it's endless gas.

umbral seal
#

Currently, Zwei is finally annoying enough to be a real legendary, so that helps puppets not waste too many of their in-hand resources.

blissful olive
umbral seal
#

Sure, and that's what he's primarily used for if I already have enough storm in my hand to win

#

However, if I'm on my last evo and my opponent is nowhere close to dead, Jerry is by-far your best option as an aggro deck

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You're just not going to win otherwise.

mystic tartan
#

yo i won against haven crest

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using raio jerry

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RAIO CHAN

blissful olive
#

loot sword may infact be broken as fuck lol

fading echo
#

dude i was on vacation and my last boss snitched on me and tried getting me fired because i played shadowverse at work after i was done and there was nothing else to do for the rest of the day

umbral seal
#

Never trust anyone at work. The restroom is your best friend.

umbral seal
#

But the deck lacks draw power compared to classic midrange sword and has a bit less board pressure (still has zirc)/late game staying power (doesn't have gildaria). That's all exchanged for more midgame damage.

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But it's not what I'd call broken.

gritty anvil
#

they can snitch all they want

blissful olive
umbral seal
#

If you're not on your lunch break or not off work, don't let anyone catch you doing shit that could get you in trouble.

mystic tartan
#

as a loot player

#

i hate gilnelise

mystic tartan
#

Rune moment

fading echo
#

Damn almost 50

#

My record was 46 damage done to a dragon player

mystic tartan
#

i top deck albert

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make me win lul

red plover
blissful olive
#

doing this battle dungeon shit gonna just try and blast through it

fading echo
#

cerberus countered

blissful olive
#

buff cerb

mystic tartan
#

play it up

red plover
#

seems like you can just farm it by playing suicide decks against each other in the guild HmmTea

mystic tartan
brisk adder
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wtf

fading echo
#

I'm down to help with the guild suicide farming

blissful olive
#

drink the punch

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only once per day

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can run it 3 times cause table is an option

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other 2 are normal shit

red plover
#

jesus, this guy must play take two 24/7 with that mp LULE

blissful olive
#

honestly u only need guild members once for this event

cursive crypt
#

90k in a month sounds doable tbh

red plover
#

in take two you also lose rp/mp though

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unless its different if youre already master

#

also you have to somehow not run out of rubies to keep playing it LULE

blissful olive
#

take 2 p2w

blissful olive
#

lowkey draw in this game is rigged

#

every time i toss a high cost card i get one back on muligin

#

good one lol

#

what is wrong with people man

#

take like 8 years to play the 1 card we all know u have

fading echo
#

he got rank 1 portal with this deck Okayge

mystic tartan
#

zamn

fading echo
#

just realized loot sword is way faster for doing the play x spells quest KEKW

blissful olive
#

looks like normal puppet

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but with cats that yandere bitch

mystic tartan
#

Loot sword is pag

mystic tartan
#

welp somehow got ultimate with sword

#

after 8 ws

cursive crypt
#

wait thats pretty good

#

people who play in that mmr this early into the season was prob 1.9k before the reset

mystic tartan
#

i just lock in ngl

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and pretty good draw

#

ngl

mystic tartan
#

bruh meet midrange abyss

#

almost lose

#

lost to midrange sword

mystic tartan
#

i threw again

mystic tartan
#

this dude forgot about centaur

#

he cerb only to not heal

#

oops

umbral seal
#

A lot of sword lists don't run centaur so people usually don't play around it

#

Centaur also tends to stay stuck in your hand unless it gives you lethal

#

The sword lists that run tablet definitely have centaur, though.

mystic tartan
#

i hate tablet after a losestreak where i table 3 times and still does nothing ICANTLOLW cus its all bottom deck

gritty anvil
#

tablet is kinda hit or miss

mystic tartan
#

puppet is on a rise

#

so many of them

#

i guess people got bored

umbral seal
#

It didn't just happen

mystic tartan
#

yeah personally im fine with it

#

they dont have anything for Valse xdd

#

the 5 cost lego tho

#

very strong if no removal for all

blissful olive
#

u mean zwei?

#

yeah if u dont remove her it can be annoying if u cant get rid of vicky for some reason its an auto lose but i never seen that happen

mystic tartan
#

yeah

mystic tartan
#

Legoge

warped granite
#

Goatdine

mystic tartan
#

i locked in this season

fading echo
#

abyss that just spams wards is broken

#

OMEGALUL the guy just had wards every single turn to force you to run out of cards to deal with the ward bitch

fading echo
#

it's a pretty good idea to counter puppet gamers went 3-1 on tournament

cursive crypt
#

ya im pretty sure mode abyss also shits on puppets

blissful olive
#

wydm lol

#

i mean i guess if its mode u can loop bell ringer with chaos sure

#

but u just stalling

red plover
#

close call monkaS

blissful olive
#

gil really do be ruining fellas days lol

mystic tartan
#

go play people

#

chest event is here

mystic tartan
#

nvm so many inactive OMEGALUL

#

wait u can trade

blissful olive
#

yeah u can just win trade

#

the rewards arnt insane so idc 2 much

#

2xko out tmr anyways

mystic tartan
#

@cursive crypt trade with me MadgeClap

blissful olive
mystic tartan
#

im trading hehe

#

we level up to 4 bois

mystic tartan
#

Don't forget to play until u get 10individual points if u want the chest

blissful olive
#

this event wasnt thought out very well lmao

#

but eh free shit sure why not lol

mystic tartan
#

yeah free shit i need more for next set

blissful olive
#

ye i been kinda slacking i only have 20k gold rn

#

but i got like 60k vials should be good no matter what

fading echo
fading echo
#

who's pengin from the guild?

mystic tartan
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Idk lol

red plover
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first time I got one of those PagMan , only took 300+ packs in total LULE

mystic tartan
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Poggers

red plover
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too bad you cant turn it into vials or something since I have no use for it Sadge

fading echo
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did you get the battlepass?

fading echo
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KEKW i love abyss so much can't wait until handless is back

red plover
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nope, entirely f2p so far

mystic tartan
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oguri is nice

red plover
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free stuff Gladge

fading echo
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Oguri as odin makes odin more likable big brain move

mystic tartan
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as a loot sword player

gritty anvil
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are these all for free even avatars ?

fading echo
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Idk about avatars but card skins are free

red plover
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pretty sure they said everything was free HmmTea

brisk adder
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What's the point of guilds if there's no guild war events.

blissful olive
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brotherrrr

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whyyyy

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everything one the same fucking day

mystic tartan
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xdd

unkempt lava
fading echo
blissful olive
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idk man

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2xko bp 14 shit

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uhhh

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something else im forgetting but ye everything this month is like at the same time

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS5VQPHLCFE intern uploaded the wrong trailer

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oh nvm my youtube was just bugged kek

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it was showing that one as the uma collab

blissful olive
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yeah it should be today sometime

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hope i can bang it out in 1 day 2 much going on

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oh right

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and sonic racing has another festival

red plover
mystic tartan
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im on a losestreak

mystic tartan
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finally ending

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oh well im done with this game today

brisk adder
mystic tartan
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xdd

blissful olive
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dailies to GM yippie

mystic tartan
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Damn reward is nice broo

red plover
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two legendaries I didnt own yet POGGIES

mystic tartan
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Wtf its different lol

red plover
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consistent rewards in a gacha game pepeLaugh

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but an easy event with good rewards is nice for once Gladge

blissful olive
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so u dont do anything

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u just login ok thats cool lol

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not bad

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free vials basically best thing u can get in this game tbh

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i hate table match mfers man

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like just end the game nobody is trying to play fr

umbral seal
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I always play real matches

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And I often encounter many people want the same

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Speak for yourself and yourself only

red plover
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thats why I use a suicide deck, so they realize pretty quickly whats going on

blissful olive
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gimmie ur list lmao i just do like

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aggro and only play self harm cards

red plover
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thats the problem

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with aggro you put bodies on the field

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thinking you are playing for real

blissful olive
red plover
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best case is you draw benison in your first hand and then it doesnt take long

blissful olive
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yeh

umbral seal
blissful olive
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thats fair

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but for all intensive purposes park is just for events and quests

red plover
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tnh1 is the code for my suicide deck, its not perfect but it gets the job done LULE

umbral seal
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I can 100 matches in 1 day

blissful olive
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oh sure thanks

umbral seal
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None is a waste

blissful olive
red plover
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that one will unlock a bit later

blissful olive
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well the oguri is in login thats all i wanted tbh

red plover
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just the sleeve and not the odin later on? LULE

blissful olive
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i thought that was the odin

red plover
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but yea the tasks are so easy its hard to miss them regardless

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nah, the login is just for sleeves and the icons

blissful olive
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yeah i'll do em on daily reset or somethin

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they start tmr i think right

red plover
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3 hours I think

blissful olive
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oh

red plover
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or 5, something around there

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2am utc

blissful olive
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5h then ya

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in that case i'll do this guild chest shit later tonight

red plover
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forcing me to actually play the tournament this time to get all the collab stuff ReallyMad

blissful olive
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cringe lol

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they should run it at night too

blissful olive
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ok so just do ur daily thank god lol

mystic tartan
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meet an izudia player

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bro didnt get the 2nd izudia

mystic tartan
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bro i literally fuck this cockroach guy

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with Filene spell

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also i just threw in bodies at him with fennie dragon

mystic tartan
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bottom deck fennie is literally joever man

umbral seal
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I dislike playing Fennie because the deck feels awful if you don't have Fennie on curve

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Rather play the aggro list

umbral seal
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Pretty sure I've posted multiple dragon lists in here before. Let me login.

mystic tartan
umbral seal
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Again, I dislike playing this deck but this has been my most successful version of it

blissful olive
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oh

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you took out ivory ? thought he was a front runner for you