#Shadowverse

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gritty anvil
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never said its guarantee

red plover
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I have yet to get a single legendary this time around 4HEad

gritty anvil
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i already got 2

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and previous event i got at minimum 2 or 3

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dont remember exactly but it was atleast 2

red plover
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so far Ive gotten one gold card LULE

cursive crypt
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turn 9 jerry into lethal OMEGALUL

gritty anvil
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what craft is best for pure jery deck ?

cursive crypt
cursive crypt
true abyss
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I'll just go back to rune

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Crest is a bs match up

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Rune isn't as bad as crest

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In terms of facing them

blissful olive
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tempted to try afk haven

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but do i really anna spend 7k on this goofy ass

unkempt lava
blissful olive
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does it still auto lose to rune lmao

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made it and first match

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im bouta just concede im not playing this lmao

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this is probably the worst mirror in the game rn

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why did i make this again lmao

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like bruh

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well i won lol

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i hate it here

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why they make chests so awful

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casually torturing a forest player

blissful olive
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bro is slowly realizing no card in dragon can save this

brisk adder
blissful olive
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only time playing this deck feels like shit is the mirror or rune

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other than that its kinda fun

brisk adder
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im A rank because of this deck

blissful olive
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ata girl

blissful olive
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bruh fuck cygames

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how is weekend tourney still only at 7 am and not 7pm too stupid ass bullshit company fr

cursive crypt
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turn 4 board OMEGALUL

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this deck is so stupid when ur highrolling ICANT

blissful olive
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using baldo in the big 2025

brisk adder
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i guess the 4 cost removal

umbral seal
blissful olive
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thats crazy cause i dont see forest at all

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i saw one today in weeks

umbral seal
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There's plenty of forest

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Of course, still unpopular compared to everything else

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But that'll always be the case. It was the case in set 1, too.

blissful olive
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every day i play around 10 games then get off first forest in weeks

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its just dragon haven and abyss now

cursive crypt
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YEP forest is just not a popular class in general, you will see it once in a while

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surprised u arent complaining about sword since its legit all i see

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just sword, rune and abyss

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basically nothing changed from last meta ICANT

blissful olive
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i dont really mind current sword

cursive crypt
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Well maybe because u are playing haven

blissful olive
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ive played a few games with afk haven

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it does seem good into sword for sure

cursive crypt
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If you play anything else you can feel how oppressive loot sword is

blissful olive
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i do

cursive crypt
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Cause they have infinite damage from hand

blissful olive
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remember i mostly play dragon and abyss

cursive crypt
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Oh then you are prolly aware

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I kinda wanna play midrange abyss tbh

blissful olive
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i just dont really care about it

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midrange abyss is ok u should splash faith into it tho imo

cursive crypt
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The 2 drop? Nah I don't think she's good in regular midrange

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It's similar to last set but u have like 4 new cards

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7 drop lego, 4 drop 4/4, 2 drop amulet and the abyss version of apollo

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Oh and the new 5 drop too

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Damn abyss actually has a lot of good new cards

blissful olive
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yeah abyss is doing ok recently

umbral seal
mystic tartan
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alright galmieux is growing on me

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man i just want more ramp card ngl

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dragonsign and that lady is not enough

blissful olive
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shes good basically adds removal + another storm card to dragon

cursive crypt
blissful olive
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just play roach in aggro u meat head

cursive crypt
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curent loot sword is like last season aggro abyss but with 100 more damage from hand

blissful olive
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yeah abyss has nothing close to that

cursive crypt
blissful olive
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just do enough damage then

cursive crypt
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if you heal more than 8 while clearing every board its super hard to die already

blissful olive
cursive crypt
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im just playing tempo forest for the highroll potential cause its funny

blissful olive
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yeah aggro forest sucks but i found it kinda fun

mystic tartan
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not the card

cursive crypt
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another one bites the dust KEK

mystic tartan
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bro fuck that card

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i got cucked by 2 of them

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bald people

cursive crypt
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just clear them Tomfoolery

mystic tartan
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i cleared one

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he put another one

cursive crypt
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OMEGALUL super high roller

red plover
brisk adder
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the only deck that can compete with this is sword loot

mystic tartan
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triple fennied

gritty anvil
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omg finally i finished this

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u guys have it finished too ?

mystic tartan
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idk lol

blissful olive
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no cause u gotta find idiots to use a code 2 much work

brisk adder
brisk adder
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before on launch

red plover
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I havent even used the code LULE

wild gale
gritty anvil
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why ppl fusing ahead on sinciro for no reason

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that must be misplay

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even if their hand isnt full

blissful olive
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i see new haven has the same problem as before

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if u dont draw ur guy u auto lose

gritty anvil
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not really

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haven can still win even if they draw marwyn later

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happen to me before

blissful olive
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yeah anyone can win with anything if ur lucky

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but lets be real lol

gritty anvil
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its not about lucky

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they have enough defensive options

blissful olive
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it is pure luck

gritty anvil
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to not care

blissful olive
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u draw it or u dont

mystic tartan
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that 3 damage to all follower is insane

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and its bronze

blissful olive
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oh blind faith? ye it good

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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fuck i almost 4-0

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rip

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i was vs 2 haven as abyss

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but one beat me

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that game was so close

gritty anvil
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third velharia ICANT

blissful olive
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i got a 4th foil one 2 days ago

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this bitch wont leave me alone

mystic tartan
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0 velharia for me

blissful olive
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shes phil but for rune

mystic tartan
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man azurifrit is not bad not ngl

blissful olive
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the 9 cast?

mystic tartan
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yeah

blissful olive
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he can fake clear the board but running 3 is bait

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2 max

mystic tartan
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i run 1

blissful olive
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same

mystic tartan
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he be clutching

mystic tartan
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ganryu is really strong when u have 2nd turn and already ramp once

gritty anvil
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nice rng coc second last card it was

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i lost

mystic tartan
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hate haven crest

gritty anvil
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ye its annoying

fading echo
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i hate playing rune so much i wanna play portal but portal sucks ass

mystic tartan
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yeah portal is

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well artifact is

fading echo
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i haven't even been playing much because i don't wanna play my rune deck

mystic tartan
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i play Sword or Dragon till next set i think

fading echo
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sword players are so cute they always get stunned when Rosé doesn't execute lishenna

blissful olive
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bruh fuck sunday reset cygames is retarded

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discord ass weekly quests

blissful olive
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well anyone up for 1 game then ?

fading echo
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i can do the weekly quests if you want

blissful olive
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sure just need 1 game

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for this dumbass weekly

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im in park

fading echo
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yeah come to the guild lobby

blissful olive
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no guild

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you coming ?

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im cerby if u forgot

fading echo
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let me see if i have you added

blissful olive
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you do

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we did this already

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ty

umbral seal
blissful olive
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no im just in another

red plover
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oh, they added another guild rank as well, no way we hit that one LULE

blissful olive
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they all give 3.5k vials so idc really

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long as we hit S its all the same and S is only like 10k i think

fading echo
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bruh i'm just skipping turns in the park why the fuck is every chinese bitch playing ward haven

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10 years to do these quests just skipping turns

red plover
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thats why you play a suicide deck EZ

umbral seal
fading echo
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true gotta drop my self damage cards

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actually just killed his ass i had a good hand

umbral seal
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Clapping them cheeks

blissful olive
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i raised that boy

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wow someone unironically using the shit leader lol

umbral seal
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I see plenty of people use him. Obviously they like him.

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I tend to see him more than Kaori nowadays

gritty anvil
umbral seal
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Legendary is 1850+ but not top 100

gritty anvil
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oh

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so u beyond only if u in top 100 ?

umbral seal
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Correct.

gritty anvil
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there is one guy in discord who hit beyond with dragon running basically classic disdain storm list

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not this discord

umbral seal
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Not surprised. It's a good deck.

blissful olive
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dragon can win by turn 7 if they cant answer forte

umbral seal
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Most decks can answer forte. It takes more than cheese to hit 1850+, trust me.

blissful olive
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yeah but sometimes u just win lol

umbral seal
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Rarely do I win by forte going unanswered. Refer to what I typed above.

blissful olive
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yeah it doesnt happen often but it happens a decent amount

blissful olive
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its fake snoop

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but shit is ass ass

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all the BP leaders been ass

red plover
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male = bad for most people here LULE

gritty anvil
brisk adder
gritty anvil
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but thats ok

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if she get answered

blissful olive
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i mean think about the first 2

gritty anvil
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they already took 7 to face

blissful olive
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some shoto brat tsundere

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and a statue

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they prob gonna keep the trend going tbh no women in BP

red plover
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no gooning allowed BASEDHALT

blissful olive
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watch the first girl in BP be some old lady

red plover
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now that you mention it, theres like no old women in this game HmmTea

blissful olive
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im sure theres a few 1000 year old ones

red plover
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good one 4HEad

true abyss
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Weekly anyone?

red plover
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yes

true abyss
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Come guild

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Do you have an aggro deck or do I play mine?

red plover
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I play suicide HmmTea

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dont have a minecraft deck LULE

true abyss
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Aight

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Thanks@red plover

red plover
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np EZ

cursive crypt
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stole his roach for lethal KEK

gritty anvil
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lol

mystic tartan
umbral seal
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...

mystic tartan
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this account is just insano

gritty anvil
mystic tartan
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dev account

red plover
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its only cosmetics anyway peepoShrug

gritty anvil
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why is that guy Barric looks like batchest emote

true abyss
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You got 8 tickets?

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No shot

umbral seal
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It's just luck

true abyss
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8 tickets is "check him PC" kinda luck

mystic tartan
gritty anvil
true abyss
umbral seal
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Actually, correction. There is a pity system

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Which is pulling 350 packs kek

mystic tartan
gritty anvil
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i got only one leader early

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and i didnt spend shit

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shame it was portal leader because portal already have decent default leader

fading echo
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dude's bricking like he's me

gritty anvil
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i still dont understand how is orchis good in that deck

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u basically never get more than 8 face dmg out of orchis in this deck because there pretty much always gonna be atleast 1 egg

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oh maybe ppl running her for removal

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that actually kinda make sense

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because that deck have almost no aoe and she can work as aoe

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with puppets

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but u still need atleast 3 spot on board

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unless u sac loyd

fading echo
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she summons 4 things

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even if you don't get full face damage that's decent super evo anyway Axia deals 4 face damage with super evo 100% of the time and then if she deals more than that is based on how the eggs are flipped and if there's something she kills on the board peepoShrug

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portal just deals mid damage

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orchis is a good plan b for when your game is bricked and you get no eggs

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watching this dude's games makes it look like she really cripples crest haven

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half the deck costs 2 somehow he bricked on that previous ss KEK

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god and the devs both hate portal players

gritty anvil
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like soprano literally become dead card if u decide to have only 1 egg

fading echo
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it's about having options for every match

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you can't fill your board with eggs versus crest haven or you just get clapped by the free damage they get every turn you wanna keep dropping bodies on the board

gritty anvil
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i can see in like match up like abyss

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where orchis would be good with only 1 gg

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egg

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but vs sword u want eggs early

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3 if possible

fading echo
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yeah but realistically you have 3 cards that make eggs

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+1 lishenna

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if you waste both evos on her just to make eggs you end up pretty locked late game with just 2 super evos

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so even if the deck has good card draw you can't reliable have any number of eggs

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if there was more egg generators in the deck that would be good but now you can just play pure egg and have 1 or 0 by turn 7

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at that point you're fucked because all your cards have shit stats

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with orchis in the deck you can play egg and puppets at the same time and just switch to whatever is better in that situation of whatever you can do with the cards you got

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without her you just have to pray for eggs

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right now making eggs is almost the same as ramping with dragon except the spell for eggs requires setup

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it's pretty unreliable

gritty anvil
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having 3 eggs each game is not that difficult

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because this deck have solid card draws

fading echo
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it can still happen peepoShrug this was on a pure egg deck and i had to evo lish twice to get eggs

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pretty sure i only won because he bricked and had to use that crest to draw the card that makes him deal damage

red plover
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yea it can be pretty difficult to deal with the destruction immune stuff from portal as crest haven

fading echo
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orchis jumpscare

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he died to gilne spell on my next turn because he dropped more of the ward girl instead of healing since i guess he was scared of being in second orchis/odin range

umbral seal
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They just use sagelight for AoE

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Been running into a lot of runes with lists like that

fading echo
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how are the non haven non rune classes supposed to survive getting 16 damage AOE that not only hits the board but also hits face kek

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he got outbalanced in the end lacStare

cursive crypt
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At least that deck has a lot of cheap ways to draw tho

blissful olive
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reasons to kill myself

umbral seal
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No one's forcing you to play Haven

mystic tartan
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Let them fight

blissful olive
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all mirrors are fake gay

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this meta do suck dick tho im noticing more and more how little depth the game has

gritty anvil
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@umbral seal is disdain dragon favored vs haven ?

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actually i think its terrible match up for dragon

blissful olive
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they have hella removal decent healing lots of wards and good board clear

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id def say haven is favored

gritty anvil
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atleast storm dragon is fast for doing dailies

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and chests

umbral seal
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That match-up is why I swapped over to Fennie

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It's not unwinnable as storm dragon but it's too draw dependent

blissful olive
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u just get lucky if u can hit em for game outa no where

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keeping afk haven down is kinda hard unless they dont draw their bullshit for whatever reason

gritty anvil
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i faced 3 haven and won 2 i dont know

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maybe its not that bad match up

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but my CR isnt that big

umbral seal
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People in epic+ really know how to pilot their decks. CR matters a lot.

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It's a very bad match up

gritty anvil
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ye there was one guy he had abyss aggro 7 winstreak i was like wtf

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and than he showed me CR

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and it was 1264 lmao

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becasue abyss aggro in high CR is complete dogshit

umbral seal
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Winstreaks are always bait unless they show CR

gritty anvil
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man coc actually improve my haven match up quite a lot

blissful olive
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yeah

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haven should also run a 1 off in case of mirror

gritty anvil
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coc is actually so good in this meta

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i think a lot of decks should run 1 copy atleast

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atleast decks that goes usually to turn 10

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abyss portal haven rune

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even control forest

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can run 1

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if your izudia plan fails

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dragon runs him too

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sometimes

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i could even see sword running one coc honestly because sword can run out of juice where they dont have enough reach

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but sword doesnt go that often to turn 10

fading echo
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i've been putting so much 1offs tech cards gotta trim the deck a bit later LULE

gritty anvil
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do u guys think this meta is overall pretty well balanced ?

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or nah

fading echo
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i think the gap between the top and the rest is still pretty wide

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gotta pray they brick or else

gritty anvil
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well rune sword haven

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are 3 best decks right

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between those arent big gaps

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actually abyss is up there too

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and after its like dragon forest portal

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forest and portal are def weakest decks overall

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i think

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but other than that meta is pretty ok balanced

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i think this meta is still better than set before

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rune and sword were way too dominant

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in evolved

umbral seal
fading echo
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my experience feels the same as season 2 in terms of variety of decks

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i was talking about deck strength

gritty anvil
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axia was almost enough

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was 1 off

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its just i dont know

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i would run maybe 2 orchis

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but def not 3

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i have no clue what i would even cut

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i like the deck how i have it now

fading echo
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3 is too brick

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i'm running just 1 rn

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also why the fuck is the new albert 9 hp after evo those base stats are insane

gritty anvil
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ye 1 make sense

fading echo
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i tried running 1 cocytus and fell into a dragon game there's just never a turn where i can drop him and maybe evo to trade into something because dragon just keeps flooding the board with shit

gritty anvil
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actually i dont think orchis mattered there

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because u could play there 4 drop + axia

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its pretty much same result

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4 drop would actually push more dmg

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and u had double ward

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or could do 4 drop + dogged one

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which would be 6 face dmg

fading echo
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you'd have to axia first if you're gonna super evo her or she would break the 4 drop guy

gritty anvil
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no

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u dont need to first axia

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4 drop is 6/6

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  • super evo 9/6
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9/9

fading echo
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but axia breaks everything you have on super evo

gritty anvil
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no

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u cant evo axia there

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because otherwise u cant kill

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sinciro

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u have to evo 4/4 ward

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4/4 super evo was 3 face dmg because 2 dark eggs

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u get me ?

fading echo
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i see you're saying super evo him to trade into eggs

gritty anvil
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actually orchis

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u can even die

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to odin + 2 loot card how much mana he had

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ye litera

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literally

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i would be dead

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to odin + 2 loot cards

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so orchis wasnt better play there

fading echo
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i see i tunnel visioned into albert only

gritty anvil
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albert cant even kill u through axia

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i honestly dont like that 4 drop 4/4 ward

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that card is way too niche

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overall

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but in this situation it was good

fading echo
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sometimes i pull him out of the deck then i wish i had him just to trigger eggs and leave a ward on the board

gritty anvil
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if odin wasnt meta

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he would be really good

fading echo
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he's still decent if you start dropping cards because of odin you can't use any card he beats everything without aura kek

gritty anvil
fading echo
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nice that's the final olivia i needed to get 3 Okayge

gritty anvil
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kek w coc vs sword

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dude was doing no dmg entire game

gritty anvil
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lmao this dude played 3 fennie this game and still lost

umbral seal
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Can someone help me with the warp code thing?

red plover
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for the bingo?

umbral seal
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Yup

red plover
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go to the lobby, open the menu and click on the warp one on the right

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then the warp has a 2nd tab where you can generate the code

umbral seal
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3wax

red plover
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I think you only need to generate it

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and it should already work

umbral seal
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Oh, I see.

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Thought someone had to use it

red plover
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nah no need LULE

fading echo
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crest haven is so fucking stupid how is a deck this good allowed to exist

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they need to put the guy that made crest haven and loot sword and rune in charge of making portal already

wild gale
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Fucking dogshit meta

fading echo
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yeah it's awful can't play for the board because they deal 5 damage every turn can't rush face because they shit out wards every turn and heal 4/10 while also dealing damage

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rune leveles of obnoxious deck

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i watched the guy testing orchis on lishenna deck and it was doing pretty well versus haven but it was always hostage situation 15+ turns games

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ResidentSleeper boring as fuck

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haven terrorists scraping 30 minutes of your life away every match

umbral seal
fading echo
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not every deck can otk kek

umbral seal
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I know.

warped granite
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No of beyond players, # of players rating >2k, rating of #1 player, rating of #100 player, median rating of top 100

cursive crypt
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Portal by far the most dogshit wtf sheeesh

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I've been seeing more and more forest now ever since the Jerry tempo forest list got out

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I guess people really don't like playing roach lacHmm

umbral seal
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That's also been my experience

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Every forest player I encounter is tempo

cursive crypt
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Or maybe it's the best Jerry deck out there and people love playing Jerry LULE

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Since it's not "meme" tier

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Actually no. 1 forest was the one that made it and he used that deck exclusively

cursive crypt
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When I played it it's just too inconsistent

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I will go on 5 winstreak and then lose 5

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Surprisingly not an easy deck to pilot

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(unless you highroll amataz)

umbral seal
cursive crypt
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Rikka is the roach guy

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I honestly have no clue how Toby can even get 2k+ rating with tempo forest

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You could literally just have +100 rating in 10 minutes and the next 20min you will lose 200 rating

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With tempo forest

fading echo
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at least the couple of times i clicked on his stream it was always loot

cursive crypt
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Maybe he's trying to reach top 100 in other classes too

fading echo
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i think ryu is the guy from that team more loyal to portal but he dips into haven too

cursive crypt
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I mean it makes sense since you don't win as much playing portal as you would with pretty much any other decks

fading echo
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https://x.com/maharu_sv/status/1965066116289757366 this guy is the one actually playing portal a lot i've been watching him experimenting with orchis on lish decks

オーキス型を模索してレート溶かしたけど、最終的にはビヨンドまで復帰!
やっぱりオーキスが強すぎる…リーシェナネメシスの構築無限に広がるな。

cursive crypt
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3 orchis wtf

fading echo
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he's been bouncing in and out of beyond with that deck but it doesn't stick for too long

cursive crypt
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I mean that's pretty good for portal already LULE

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Bro I've been stuck in the 1600s for 2 days ICANT

fading echo
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eggs can definetly win but it's a pretty shit deck because everyone has big finishers or endless sustain and the deck has neither

cursive crypt
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Ye eggs just don't really have a big enough burst to finish the game

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U know now that I think about it, Kuon literally has everything

fading echo
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kek all the rune legendaries are like 3 cards in one

cursive crypt
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It has ward, it goes wide, it's a 10 point finisher, it has aura OMEGALUL

fading echo
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at least 3 portal cards

cursive crypt
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Yea imagine if Lloyd absorbs all the puppets you summon that turn and gives orchis aura PepoThink

umbral seal
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I have since swapped over to Fennie and got back to epic

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I still have time to make top 100 but it's going to be difficult

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Gilnelise in Rune not only gives them more healing but also more ways to kill you on turn 10

cursive crypt
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Yea it's way harder than I imagined

umbral seal
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I'm not one to call for nerfs but Rune absolutely needs nerfs

cursive crypt
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Average player is probably in the 1500s range ye?

umbral seal
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1400-1500 is what I'd say is the average player range

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1600 is above average and even that rating is difficult to maintain

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So anyone who's above 1600 is a good player imo

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Especially with a lower tier deck

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Some people are class-carried

cursive crypt
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I just keep bouncing between 1600-1700 Deadge can't fuckin win man how do these people do it

cursive crypt
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Never reached ultimate yet ReallyMad

umbral seal
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Like, unironically, take breaks to reset your brain. Even if you think you're not tilted

cursive crypt
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Literally 5 kuons in the deck minimum

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How can they not have it when they climb

umbral seal
#

Not sure what's more OP between this and Neutral Blood

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Actually, probably Neutral Blood still

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Because that deck could kill you on turn 6-7 reliably in SV1

cursive crypt
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If an aggro deck is tier 1 then yea it's prob more broken, but rune just gets to do everything man Deadge

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Their units have ward, they have access to healing, mana cheat, and otk

umbral seal
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Technically, Fennie Ramp has access to all of that. It just can't do the OTK super reliably but it's what I'm playing right now.

cursive crypt
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When I play tempo forest I just wanna give up when enemy plays galmieux on curve lol

umbral seal
#

I always keep galmieux in my mulligan, especially against forest

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Have fun with infinite 1 dmg aoe

cursive crypt
#

Just gonna play my Jerry and pray LULE

umbral seal
#

Playing Jerry, you basically have to pray for Raio

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He really makes shit busted

cursive crypt
#

Interesting that you play fennie version tho, I see a lot of people just go full aggro

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Yeah if you get raio early it's almost always gg

umbral seal
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Like, negative win-rate basically

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Fennie actually beats Haven

cursive crypt
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Yeah true if you see a lot of havens you will lose a lot

umbral seal
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And the games ain't even that much faster

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With this list, I can often end the game as soon as Garyu drops

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It's very hard to clear him

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But that's more of a "plan B" if I need to swap my game-plan to be more midrange rather than gen dragon otk

cursive crypt
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You do run a lot of draws in this version HmmTea

umbral seal
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You have to. As soon as Fennie drops, you need to draw your deck

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Like if I have Fennie in hand, I usually don't play my card draw until after Fennie

cursive crypt
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Ye that makes sense, it is a bit easier to play fennie in this meta I guess

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As long as ur not vs loot

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Or midrange abyss

umbral seal
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Loot is still winnable. The deck has a lot of healing

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Just need Merman on curve to deal with their board state and draw your olivia's and neptunes later on

cursive crypt
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well I'm specifically talking about how playable fennie is

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3 is a lot

umbral seal
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Loot Sword is probably this deck's worst match up, depending on what the opponent has in their hand

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Like the deck's total damage is high but their draw power is not

cursive crypt
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U can "safely" play her vs haven and mode abyss most of the time

umbral seal
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Even if I can't safely play her, the deck ain't online until she drops so I'll do it even if it's somewhat unsafe

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Galmieux in this deck is what helps you play Fennie safely, btw

cursive crypt
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Makes sense ye

umbral seal
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But Galmieux is also a brick since the enhance effect overrides the discounted cost

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So it's why I run 2, not 3

cursive crypt
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I wish enhance is affected by cost changes, maybe it'll be too broken though

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Also makes enhanced kuon 11pp with the filene spell

cursive crypt
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You could buff fighter to 10/10 and it will still only cost 4 with enhance

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So u never know

fading echo
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what the fuck are these abyss packs LULE

umbral seal
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I underestimated the fuck out of Raging Lightning, ngl

fading echo
fading echo
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portal mirror turn 6 no one has eggs

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cursed game

mystic tartan
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loool

fading echo
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gm soon peepoComfy

umbral seal
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I'm pretty close to gm3 at this point

fading echo
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i don't play a lot these haven matches get me bored as fuck

fading echo
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look at this back to back

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i already don't wanna play anymore for today

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so fucking stupid ResidentSleeper

red plover
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all this complaining LULE

fading echo
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yeah i should have never complained about rune players i miss fighting them so much

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my match history is like 60% crest haven cucks so i fucking hate them

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every turn just shit out wards or board clears and still get 5 free face damage

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the deck is just 5 atk odin every turn LULE

gritty anvil
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bruh rune players around epic are so bad they cant beat my abyss

gritty anvil
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lmao one hp

gritty anvil
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oh chest event ending ?

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on reset

fading echo
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man havencuck healed back to 20 from 1 hp

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actually have to play rune and satan combo to kill these people

gritty anvil
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btw gilnelise is actually so important in haven

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without her that deck would be much weaker

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she gives that extra reach at turn 10s

cursive crypt
gritty anvil
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i died so many times to gilnelise vs haven

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her spell

cursive crypt
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i mean yea gilne is just a good finisher and decent early ggame vs aggro decks

gritty anvil
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ye but in other decks its not that strong but in have its very strong because u basically remova 2 stuff 2 hp follower and 5 hp follower and go face for 10 in total

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which is huge swing

cursive crypt
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wdym gilne is in every other deck

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except dragon

gritty anvil
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omg i know

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but its not as strong as in haven

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she fits that deck perfectly

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its deck made for super stalling to turn 10

cursive crypt
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ehh its the most broken in rune

gritty anvil
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in rune its also good but i think in haven she feels even better

fading echo
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he only had the ghosts for the first turn

gritty anvil
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in dragon shes like w/e still good but not like crazy insane sword usualy doesnt use her only if they want tech vs mirror

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in control forest shes good

cursive crypt
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never seen anyone run gilne in any dragon deck

gritty anvil
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wut

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really ?

cursive crypt
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yes not one

gritty anvil
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i run 3 in mine lol

cursive crypt
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and i played vs many

gritty anvil
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but mine isnt storm

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thats why

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in storm i dont run her

cursive crypt
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even the otk one doesnt run gilne

gritty anvil
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well dragon have already tons of sustain

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and better endgame finishers

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but i feel like vs sword she can be really nice

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if u running very slow dragon deck

cursive crypt
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all dragon lacks is the consistency of being able to ramp

gritty anvil
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in portal gilnelise is also good important to defend in early game

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and portal can also make it to turn 10 pretty consistently

cursive crypt
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portal suffers the same disease as last season

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just not enough burst damage to kill enemy

umbral seal
#

Back to the 1700s. Not sure if I can make it to Beyond in time

gritty anvil
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im also stucked in epic

umbral seal
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I mean, I just got back to the 1700s after several days

cursive crypt
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is daragon full of beyond yet?

umbral seal
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It's been rough

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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i dont get how ppl hold their beyonds

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as dragon

umbral seal
#

Storm Dragon has less decisions but it's far more draw dependent

gritty anvil
#

ye but dragon deck is kinda inconsistent

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thats the problem

fading echo
gritty anvil
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or maybe they also drop

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back to epic

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but they got it back

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very fast

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because how much they grind

umbral seal
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Some people draw a little but not much

#

Anyway, anyone up for a game? Need the weekly

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I'll use my ladder deck for once

cursive crypt
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sure lemme log in

gritty anvil
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im taking breaks from SV im only gonna do daily missions and out no more ranked chests

#

i need to play genshin a lot

umbral seal
#

Back on top

gritty anvil
#

new region

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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oh shit abe is in your guild

#

nice we all have champion flairs

umbral seal
#

Note that abe also plays a lot.

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Just for some comparison

gritty anvil
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im almost GM 2

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tomorrow

cursive crypt
#

im in guild lounge

umbral seal
#

Also, I don't like how they increased the requirements for all guild ranks

gritty anvil
#

NBA u GM 2 already ?

umbral seal
#

Like I get people ranked up but

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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bruh

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u been grinding hardcore

umbral seal
#

I played so much that I went from under 200 dragon wins to 500+

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In just this set

gritty anvil
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i dont even know if i reach GM 3

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but there is still many days left

#

when this set ends ?

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this season

#

28 ?

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or next month

gritty anvil
#

i spammed dragon at its worst time lmao

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in rise

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now dragon is actually decent

cursive crypt
#

well theyre not the worst LULE

gritty anvil
#

ye

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do u think forest and portal

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are still worse ?

cursive crypt
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nah forest is a bit better

gritty anvil
#

tempo forest is so annoying

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i feel like they have always perfect curve

cursive crypt
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bottom 3 isnt really what u would call decent sheeesh

gritty anvil
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basically with abyss if u dont have that apollo chick u done

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vs tempo forest

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screaming and loathing is kinda useless

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they go too wide

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gilnelise vs tempo forest

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is very strong

umbral seal
#

@cursive crypt Thanks peepoHappy

cursive crypt
#

np

umbral seal
#

Supplicant in Roach?

cursive crypt
#

cant even get to turn 9 for rose queen

umbral seal
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Tempo Dragon doesn't let you get that far usually

cursive crypt
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well i did pass like 3 turns early game cause i drew 2 titanias and 2 bayles LULE

umbral seal
#

I mean, most of the damage you took was from turn 6

#

Odin + Garyu + Forte was 19 alone

cursive crypt
#

ye the problem with rose queen is just u cant afford to run lion HmmTea i have to pray for gilne to survive

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also no ward units in forest Deadge

umbral seal
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Crystal Aerin

umbral seal
#

The 9 drop also has ward. I'm not sure if those cards literally can't fit into Rose Queen decks but you're not going to survive with just gilnelise

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Rune runs every source of healing available to them for a reason, because decks like loot sword & storm dragon can shit out that much damage if they draw well

cursive crypt
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yea not the 9 drop, the lion is just bad cause u need hand space for your 1 and 0 cost cards sheeesh

gritty anvil
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i really need to craft haven i want to try it

cursive crypt
#

having unused gilne already bricks ur hand

gritty anvil
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but its a lot of legos i still need

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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i like slow decks lol

cursive crypt
#

craft izudia insteaed so u can farm all the haven cucks

gritty anvil
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i want to craft that too

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but again

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not enough vials

umbral seal
#

I almost never see Izudia on ladder so either fellas can't afford control forest or they'd just prefer the faster deck in tempo forest

#

It's literally either roach or tempo (usually tempo)

gritty anvil
#

actually i need to check

#

how much that would cost

#

haven needs 3 grimnirs right ?

umbral seal
#

Yes.

gritty anvil
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1 jeanne ?

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is fine ?

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or can i run none ?

cursive crypt
#

yea tempo is by far the most popular forest deck on ladder

umbral seal
#

I don't know what the exact lists fellas run for Crest Haven but it sure feels like they run every board clear

cursive crypt
#

1 jeanne is fine

gritty anvil
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well i need to craft jeanne lol

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i never pull single copy

#

wait

#

they need also 3 wilberts ?

cursive crypt
#

kinda expensive deck if you never played haven before tho

#

yea

gritty anvil
#

omg

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ye thats cooked

#

for haven alone i missing like 8 legos

umbral seal
#

Crest Haven is, by far, the most expensive deck right now

#

Well, maybe not by far

gritty anvil
#

abyss is expensive as shit

umbral seal
#

Mode Abyss is up there

gritty anvil
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its like 20 legos deck

cursive crypt
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crest was the cheapest deck to craft for me lol i only had to craft 2 marwyns

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i got 3 gilne and 3 jerry naturally ICANT

gritty anvil
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ok i need 7 legos for haven i can craft it rn if i wanted

umbral seal
gritty anvil
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but if i do that i cant craft forest lol

#

i got only 1 jery

umbral seal
#

I also notice that if forest ever swaps to jerry, they immediately shoot for assembling Crest Haven

cursive crypt
#

u dont need card draw u just need jerry

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and now i see some people trying to slot in jerry in their decks

umbral seal
#

I mean, I noticed some experimentation in early dragon decks (not otk) but never really took off

gritty anvil
#

sword i need only 3 sinciro

umbral seal
#

Wait, the chest event ended already? That was fast

#

I feel like it usually lasts longer

gritty anvil
#

yes

red plover
#

facing forest with jerry in them feels so weird, felt easier than them just playing normal forest LULE

umbral seal
#

You're supposed to only evo Jerry if you see no path to victory otherwise.

#

Playing him on curve is fine just for the token

#

Had one Forest player high roll a 7/7 Amataz on curve

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A 5/5 is manageable (raging lightning). 7/7 is too much. sheeesh

mystic tartan
#

bruh i won against dragon he already 2 times ramp and fennie and i just hit face kek and shark later

umbral seal
#

@cursive crypt I'm using the jerry tech in dragon right now.

fading echo
fading echo
#

that's actually impressive he started rank 14 with egg jerry and ended rank 8

gritty anvil
#

lol jerry in eggs doesnt make much sense its not really type of deck that runs out of steam that often

#

because u have actually solid card draw engine

#

i would rather run coc as win cond

umbral seal
#

Jerry is not just for running out of steam. It's also for when you don't see a way to win with your current hand

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He's also a great tempo play because of his fanfare

#

Your argument runs under the assumption that you have to evolve him every time you play him

gritty anvil
#

i mean jery make sense vs haven that match up is horrible from start so jery atleast improve it

#

assuming u evolve

gritty anvil
#

which is not terrible

#

i wouldnt say hes good tempo card its still very slow vs some type of boards vs 1/1 boards hes garbage

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because u cant even evolve him if u still want to keep your hand

mystic tartan
#

so whats going to happen in 29th september

#

new leader ??

fading echo
gritty anvil
#

i really dont get how these ppl do it lmao

#

they must just be playing a ton

#

and 0 misplays

#

but ye before omen realeased we were memeing about jery being in actual meta decks

#

and hes actually is lol

#

they not exactly top tier decks but still meta decks

fading echo
#

he doesn't go full jerry all the time by looking at a couple of games he goes for jerry when he's bricked

#

if he's not bricked he just drops jerry for the 1pp clear card

gritty anvil
#

of course not

#

i know

#

it depends on situation

primal isle
#

damn what's better value for deck choice between free forte or albert if I have neither

#

I think I bretty much have both loot sword and disdain. I have 1 Sinciro already

cursive crypt
#

albert will be in every sword deck for a long time

#

forte isnt in every dragon deck

primal isle
#

tru

umbral seal
#

For me, the answer would be Forte simply because she's my queen but abe is correct in terms of what's better value.

mystic tartan
#

i want more dragon support cards

mystic tartan
#

4-0 bois

gritty anvil
mystic tartan
#

i aint gambling with Dragon

gritty anvil
#

i mean true with sword u have higher propability winning againts most decks

mystic tartan
#

yeah no bad matchup

#

u can win against any decks

#

with sword

#

im lucky both Rune and Haven that i played bricked their hands

gritty anvil
#

i think haven can too

mystic tartan
#

true

gritty anvil
#

rune actually loses to roach

#

but haven also dont really have bad match up

#

well rune

#

but rune isnt guarantee to win

mystic tartan
#

so they gonna add leader or new set ??

gritty anvil
#

when ?

mystic tartan
#

29 septmeber

#

idk maybe new leader

gritty anvil
#

no clue

umbral seal
mystic tartan
#

oh

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welp thats good too for me free stuff

umbral seal
#

A new leader is a rumor, and would be insanely greedy of cygames.

mystic tartan
#

im 1k away from GM 1

#

bro CR is hard

#

im stuck 1.5k

#

also im bored playing Sword, i mainly Dragon rn

umbral seal
#

I peaked at 1780 and have not been able to get back there

mystic tartan
#

can sometimes get 5 to 6 ws then the losestreak begun

#

tried playing Rune

#

yeah its not fun anymore ngl

mystic tartan
#

raging lightning clutch

fading echo
#

@umbral seal one of my friends started playing the game can you let him in it's egoisty

umbral seal
#

Did he apply to the guild? I might've seen it once and declined it. Saw some random beginner apply not too long ago.

fading echo
#

yeah it was him i think he did it again

umbral seal
#

Aight, I'll approve it. Dunno how serious he plans to be about the game, though.

gritty anvil
#

@mystic tartan whats your sword list

gritty anvil
#

or they just playing more top tier decks

mystic tartan
umbral seal
#

I'll still keep playing dragon but it is rough.

gritty anvil
#

tablet ? lmao

#

oh nice u running centaur

#

i bet u kill someone with it

#

ppl dont expect it

#

i like that list but not sure if i would run tablet seems so random

mystic tartan
#

i put tablet if i really bricked

#

its basically a last resort

gritty anvil
#

its basically your only card draw

#

in deck

#

right

mystic tartan
#

yeah and that 1 cost spell

gritty anvil
#

like i would rather run amelia

mystic tartan
#

yeah amelia is good

gritty anvil
#

did u use it some game ?

#

tablet

#

but ye im gonna craft sword

#

3 sinciro not that expensive

#

thats only thing i need

mystic tartan
#

yeah i use in this weekly tournament

#

i match against midrange sword

gritty anvil
#

hmm in mirror it seems good ye

#

i have question if u have in deck still 3 copies of something right

#

and play tablet on 3

#

does it increase your chance

#

drawing that 1 copy of card ?

#

or is it higher chance u draw one of 3

mystic tartan
gritty anvil
#

from bigger library

#

i feel like 3 cards in deck is still higher chance drawing

#

also that 1 card can be at teh bottom

#

if u play tablet

umbral seal
gritty anvil
#

i run in my coc dragon 3 lol

#

its fun deck it has like super early game

#

but no storm

#

and tons of sustain

#

i run 6 one of copies in deck lol

#

zell is kinda funny card

#

with coc cards

fading echo
brisk adder
#

the meta is boring

umbral seal
#

I've said this before but I'll say it again. If you've played since launch and you have not liked a single meta thus far, you should probably quit the game.

#

While there are problems, these early sets are the most balanced the game is going to be.

#

It will get progressively worse once sets start to rotate and ranked play is split between rotation and unlimited

brisk adder
#

when the new patch notes and new expansion

#

wanna do weeklys? @umbral seal

umbral seal
#

Can't, gotta go to work soon

#

I was just on to take care of some guild stuff

umbral seal
mystic tartan
#

zamn

#

im GM1 only

#

rn

umbral seal
#

Grinding back up to Epic with Jerry Dragon

#

Best shot to beat Rune is by playing the jerry deck, unironically

mystic tartan
#

show list ?

umbral seal
#

Not really my list. All I did was cut a fan & ocean rider for 2 jerry's.

#

The original list.

mystic tartan
umbral seal
#

Have to play Fennie at this ELO, it's nothing but Haven & Rune pickers

#

Literally have to OTK them or lose

#

There's way more diversity below 1600

mystic tartan
#

damn tempo jerry forest is becoming more and more popular

gritty anvil
#

bruh this could have been 4-0

#

i misplayed one game

#

honestly portal is pretty good into sword

mystic tartan
#

bruh this guy triple norman

#

no healing

#

all 3 golems

#

i beat him using jerry dragon

gritty anvil
#

i mean how healthy he was

#

sometimes golem is correct play even if u low hp

mystic tartan
gritty anvil
#

i mean 11 HP is not that bad

#

to summon golems

mystic tartan
#

wtf is he gonna do

gritty anvil
#

well i would need to see his other cards on hand aswell but it doesnt need to be always bad play

mystic tartan
#

i think he bricked ngl

gritty anvil
#

even if u do it 3 times

#

did he always had

#

enough sigils ?

#

i assume he had

mystic tartan
#

i mean ye

gritty anvil
#

for double golem

#

but ye u would be suprised dragon can get cucked by double golem pretty hard

#

especially post jery

mystic tartan
#

well i already 2 ramp

#

i got 10 pp

gritty anvil
#

but ye usually 1 golem is the play and one heal

#

because

#

1 golem stops like forte or genesis

mystic tartan
#

he got cooked

gritty anvil
#

10 pp doesnt mean much if he keep warding

#

but u said u had jery right

#

btw i think i start running second coc

#

in rune

#

just to be more consistent

#

vs haven

#

because kuon itself

#

doesnt win u game

#

vs haven

mystic tartan
#

i jery after i ramp

gritty anvil
#

omen set actually dont have that much storm

mystic tartan
#

I got that old dude that 0/3