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i think staff is good
regardless
in that deck
u get fairies from titania
its not hard to trigger card draw from it
with enough cheap cards
can also bounce may if needed
or lily
earlier
u really need to play gardens allure or u will overdraw
with staff, expensive cards and titania crest
u can try man
i just think the new 3pp amulet is miles better
i mean this one is it better than allure ?
glade is draw 6, this is draw 6 and allure is another 6
ample draw
staff aint it
in a control type deck
wait
unless u play rose queen
cause with rose queen u want cheap cards anyway
yes
u can even cut one allure if its too much draw
and replace it with tablet
i mean tablet kinda make sense if for example u have already 1 izudia on hand 1 buncle u can play tablet
and just drawing
significantly increase chance drawing second izudia
u can still try staff if you're stubborn
i think i made a rose queen deck as well and didnt even have staff in it
well for bunch of days im not gonna try anything i want to play take two 
honesytly grimnir is kinda importanta if u super evoing just one body
like rose queen
because u clear other garbage
thats on board
idk i would include 2 of grimnir for consistency if the meta needs it
thats why i wanted to try originally ggriminr with fennie because it helps u remove more bodies if u supervo her so that turn isnt that akward to play her
draogn wont need it next set
they have so much aoe for free
next set dragon doesnt even play fennie
i made one but didnt take a screnshot lol
it was something like this
but i remade this in like 30s so some things might be off
just not relying on combos
was my idea
u think lymage is good in this type of deck ?
it stalls a turn 
before lethal
basically decent tempo early and just a ton of removals after
only unit that needs evo is glade
and honest to god
u might never wanna attack with krulle
just leave her there and heal
yes
do we know when set goes live
If it's like last time, it's about 13 hours from now
rikka
1 dmg per turn deck 
insane value
he re-cooked and went full egg
i guess the plan there is to play with 3 eggs and 2 board slots

this would be so much easier if the eggs were crests
bro even if you have 4 eggs down its still 2 dmg per turn 
Too op with other archetypes
Puppet egg would be too strong
Buddy, I told him this hours ago and I don't even play Forest
He's a decent pilot but an awful deck builder
Just being real
whos this?
Hops
oh
lol
In 24 hours new set?
too bad this autolose to rune and dragon
??
Honestly, I wish Portal had gotten more destruction-immune cards like the new legendaries
But I can see this sorta working.
i think i cut liu feng
what u think @umbral seal does this deck make sense ?
honestly i should run that 5 3/5 rush ward 3 times
but thats so many 5 drops
As much as I hate Liu Feng, if you're going to cut her, you might as well cut dragonsign. I'd still run 3 of both.
ok what would u cut for 3 liu feng ?
I'm actually not sure what some of the new cards do, I need to go in the deck portal.
honestly that amulet might not be needed
i feel like supplicant of disdain is so freaking good like aggro propably auto concede vs her because look u crash her into beryl right
and heal for 3
and they have to remove her
or she heals again
It's just 3 heal smh
and crashing into aragavy she heals even more
its not just 3 body still stay there
Unless you're talking about evo
and heal back to full
no im talking just 3/5
if u send it into 3/3
she kills her and regen
but ye if there is nothing on board shes kinda trash but there goes merman if they have nothing on board
Aragavy is almost always evolved
So Evo supplicant can heal a fat ass 6
and u heal for 6
yes

isnt that broken ?
Yeah dragon is built just to kill aggro
and she stay there like 5/7 body with ward
But rune cucks will always stay on top
well
So we will still play aggro anyway
well thats why its important still run enough storm
in deck
oh actually liu feng even synergize with galmieux crest
interesting
during overflow u evo for free
i didnt even realize that
so much shit in dragon have rush
its gonna be so easy to get 0 mana spell
every turn
I think liu Feng is too good to drop
ye nba is propably right
Probably how I'd build it. Supplicant isn't bad but the curve of this deck is low enough to handle aggro.
Likely going to change once I do playtesting.
hmm u really like that amulet
Not really. I want to see how good it is, though.
Lasts 4 turns, provides a consistent source of 1 damage aoe for 1 pp
Helps devotee of disdain draw your big cost cards and blasts aggro
I also cut Forte because Galmieux has storm on enhance
I don't think this deck will be hurting for damage, even if Rune receives no nerfs.
There aren't many situations where you can freely play Forte without getting punished. Like, when it happens, it's awesome. But Galmieux can clear and deal face damage. So can Odin.
hmm maybe i just gonna try one forte
Honestly not sure if I'm going to play Dragon. I'm still annoyed that Cygames refuses to give Dragon more ramp.
Just take away overflow at this point
They're more invested in making them a Sword cosplayer
Than a ramp class
yea i saw, staff just isnt good enough if you cant combo 3 every turn, and bouncing a 9/9 off the field on turn 8 is just suicide anyway
I'm not sure how I'd build the Control Forest deck but I'm not convinced enough in its potential strength to bring it to ranked.
I'm probably going to stick with abyss, tbh
After seeing all the cards, I am thoroughly whelmed.
hard to say but i think control forest is just not gonna be that good if you wanna be playing in diamond
sapphire sure 
They said at the start of the announcement that there will be balance changes
Will they be adequate? Who knows
honestly dragon seems pretty good, but idk man liu feng is too fucking ass
But it is happening
maybe u just dont ramp man
Doesn't matter, bad ramp is still ramp. I've played thousands of dragon games in SV1
i was thinking running only dragosign but @umbral seal disagree ๐ค
i dont play dragon enough to know if thats even good
@cursive crypt has leveled up! (42 โ 43)
i played some dragon in take 2
@cursive crypt https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/101421030?lang=en
i prolly end up running 3 dragonsign and 2 liu feng
This card was far worse than Liu Feng on release.
But it was still run in Dragon
Because it was the best they had along with Oracle & Aeila
Actually, in SV1, Dragon had 9 sources of ramp on release and it was still dogshit until RoB
yea that looks ass too
RoB gave Dragon 12 sources, and that's when it started to become top tier
if you can dragon sign on 3 every game dragon would be so good and dragon sign isnt even that good of a card
just getting one ramp is good enough for now
Again, does not matter how bad the ramp cards are, they're still needed. Especially when you're running cards that have benefits upon hitting overflow
playing liufeng on turn 5 because u went 1st gotta feel like shit
i could never man
for filene galmieux spell more orcas
You have other 5 drops you can play on 5 and instead save liu feng for seven to auto evolve & ramp for turn 9
Where you have a very powerful turn 9
now u can do going first like for example devotee + 1 pp removal
for example
on 4
Try playing dragon in ranked with no ramp or even just dragon sign & no liu feng
Y'all be saying shit without actually trying it
I have
It's worse than having only 6 ramp sources
It's dog shit
Might as well play any other class who has better on-curve plays
And aggro dragon is awful
if u not ramping
Even on release, aggro dragon was like, barely tier 3
It was a far worse version of aggro abyss
It's why you don't see it on ladder anymore
yea that ios the reason i wont even bother crafting dragon
hell nah u need to try it
I'm still going to play Dragon but everyone saying it'll be tier 1 is huffing copium imo
u keep your premium cards ?
or liquify them
im crafting 3 rose queens tomorrow 
is tier 1 highest ?
i have 60k vials
or t0 ?
hell nah
how much rupies i have 20k but i use it all on take two
im gonna craft one deck and then go into take 2
Tier 0, technically, but "tier 0" usually refers to a deck that is, by far, the best
once its up
Like on release, Roach Forest was clearly tier 0 imo
Now, I think Rune & Sword share the spot, so there technically isn't a tier 0
there was no tier 0 in evolved no ?
yea there isnt
Like, I still have Rune & Sword on the same tier, but I just say "S+" instead of "tier 0"
You could argue Sword is tier 0 since it's way more consistent. It's just the games against Sword tend to feel more fair/winnable
Games against Rune feel like an inevitable loss depending on your deck
Yeah
oh ok
I totally forgot about grand prix
well u not losing much
actually
rewards in group B for 3 wins
are good
its like 3 packs
and lego
no ?
Top 3 decks I want to try: Faith Abyss, Loot Sword, Disdain Dragon.
I still have no faith in Haven.
Artifact Portal got fuck all. I'm not convinced in Destruction Portal.
I might craft Control Forest just for lobby games
Worst case scenario, I just go back to aggro abyss to farm players experimenting.
Some people may have come to that conclusion already.
raio going to be so cracked in take two
well if u can survive until turn 9
but u need to draft decent draw engine
Disagree. He's legit awful. He provides no tempo and Take Two decks have 10 less cards
He's significantly worse than Fennie in a deck that cannot ramp anything except spells
i mean i agree hes worse than fennie
The overall card quality of Rune's cards this set is a take two nerf, tbh
You'd rather have Kuon, Lilanthim, A&G
thats true because they too fixated on raio
The biggest Take Two winner is definitely Dragon, though.
While I'm not convinced in their ladder viability yet, the overall card quality is very high and it was already pretty competitive with Sword, Abyss & Portal.
Yeah, if you can drop Izudia on curve, it's likely gg
Even if you can't play the spell for 20, having a cheap 6 dmg to face is very good
Similar to Yurius in the sense of "remove or lose"
yeah, the 9 drop, all the aoe clear, even the new 2 drop is decent
probably gonna spam forest and sword in take 2
dragon lowkey good too
they still have way too many bad cards just like haven
so its not consistent enough
Don't agree. If that was the case, they would've received the same buffs Haven & Forest got.
Intimidate is trivial in constructed, but very annoying in take two.
well the problem with forest was the cards that do anything at all were all gold cards so 2 rerolls werent enough for them to be good. haven is just dogshit half the class's cards arent draftable 
yea dragon wins by cheesing with intimidate basically and silver and bronze cards have them
also merman is silver
while its not bad its still not that consistent
I need this alt art.
Yup. She's not Forte, but she's close.
Far closer than Filene.
Someone needs to put that child back in daycare.
You can choose leader & card art or wallpaper & card art (without the fancy border in the 1st one)
I know because I chose Daria wallpaper & card art, and the fancy border isn't the same compared to if I chose the Daria leader
if dragon is good i prolly gonna be spamming mainly dragon in ranked
its so tempting to open packs instantly on realease but i should play take two lol
Well it's gonna be better than what it is rn
Take Two is gambling. I'm just going to open packs.
I love gambling
Eh. I'll use my free tickets but I'm probably not going to use gold.
Besides, I need to hit GM3 before anything else.
2 wins average isn't gonna be that hard, this set I average more than 2 wins for sure
Only got 2 7 wins though
50k
Yup.
fuck
I haven't read about the GM stuff
Erm she's actually 100000 years old so it's actually fine โ๏ธ๐ค
Can you lose points now
Nope.
Child's game. Can't hurt the feelings of bad players.

You actually lose points in take 2 if you lose game, but not that much
You lose like 60 points
Ye I agree
Yeah, probably. Feels like it needs even more reach but that's about as much as this deck is going to get.
The eggs basically cuck Orchis.
What about just 1 egg
current puppet can pull off 13 maybe 15 face damage with orchis and the perfect setup at 10pp but it still sucks to kill people because you die before that or they heal and you have no face damage + you gotta have an empty board for that
i changed that deck u actually want some puppets
and goblin is there for high roll goblin into lishenna spell
Puppets run 3 Odins for a reason. You could honestly find room to fit in some combination of Gilnelise & Dogged One for additional reach.
It's not an otk deck. You could kill fellas by pushing damage over multiple turns.
Not every deck needs to do what Rune does to be good.
ye honestly maybe classic puppets end up just being better than this eggs thing 
if u add some new cards
like gilnelise dogged one and that 4 mana removal that add 2 puppets in hand
but i dont know killing dragon
gonna be so hard
with puppets
they heal so much
Dragon can't run a full megalorca package without sacrificing some of their damage from the disdain package. It's the reason why my theorized list cut most of the megalorca cards to 2 copies.
I lose healing, but I keep a decent amount of damage
Have to make sacrifices in a 40 card deck
ye i notice u dont even run that 5 mana rush ward girl
shes very depedant on meta tbh
Because for gaining back Tempo, Merman is just better
Since he clears more of the board
Wards in this game oftentimes feel cosmetic
Due to how much removal there is
if abyss is very popular u might want to play her
oh game with is putting out decks already huh
She's not going to stop Abyss from clapping them cheeks 
i didnt even look at the new cards yet goona wait for the set
Again, Merman is better at that because, while he lacks the protection the other 5 drop offers
He clears more of the board
ofc they put abyss in S again when will JP be honest lol
They are being honest. You are just consistently bad at evaluating cards.
You consistently downplay Abyss.
nah abyss is A its never broken into S
Even when thousands of other players disagree with you
that means its on par with sword
Midrange & Aggro are both very competitive with Sword
that deck looks ok
You think I stayed in diamond master 'til the end of this set with Aggro Abyss
By dodging sword the whole time?
Be serious.
In a vacuum, broken. The problem is that the loot cards are bad for tempo. And the fusions don't work the same way artifact fusions work.
kinda yeah
Rulenye is not great but that's irrelevant due to the strength of everything else around her.
medusa is just straight up better is the problem
like a lot of the times even if u get both modes shes not clearing the board
Depends on how quickly you can complete the quest.
cause 5/5 isnt taking down the big monsters
Most games are not won with tall boards. Most games are won with wide boards that 5/5s can clear
Feels like we're not playing the same game when we have these discussions
im just thinking like when ur in a position when theres big bodies on the table lets say olivia came down and they had another body or so
shes not gonna do much there
compared to medusa
If an Olivia super evo play comes down, Abyss has far more tools at their disposal to clear that outside of using Medusa
or like when dragon gets a fat board and u def cant clear it by swinging
Olivia super evo is not that hard to deal with unless you are out of evos
thats also another point to meds tbh
shes like one of the best cards to just answer shit
Sure. She's a great card (odd you're making this argument after what you said in set 1).
But she's not needed for the faith deck to succeed.
wdym ive always been a meds fan
im gonna try faith tho for surely no reason not 2
i still have 60k vials so i can make anything
I definitely don't agree with the list you posted but most of those cards are probably correct.
Not seeing the reason for Chaos Cyclone, most notably.
based on what we seen how strong do u imagine faith to be really
Without nerfs to spellboost, tier 2 at best.
The problem with midrange abyss now is that it gets outvalued lategame by Sword
I don't see a scenario where Sword can outvalue it once you complete the faith quest
its getting to that point yeah
Mode Abyss needs to strike a balance between completing their quest quickly and also having damage to kill shit like spellboost
they are nerfing shit b4 patch right?
I thought so but some people are saying nerfs aren't until September?
Sure hope it's a day 1 patch.
yeah do it on release imo
so im guessing u saw all the cards
no ramp im betting
i do kinda wanna try new dragon tho especially if i get the leader
Yeah, no ramp. It's annoying since that would've actually propelled Disdain Dragon to tier 1. Now, I'm not sure. Maybe it still will be but I'm not convinced yet.
that would be me


ordine pulled 5 in one 
when is the new patch live?
not live in 3 min but it goes under maintenance
i think it last like what 5 hours ?
wait we get again 10 packs right
over 3 days
only 3 prebuilts ?
You need both legos from the set, they are so greedy to give only one 
why there are only 3 prebuilts thats so weird
predownload is up
also game just gets increasingly more expensive with no help. sword deck probably 2/3rds legends spread across 3 sets now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=761cU9x5VYQ look at this deck that wins GP finals 
Just some matches of Control Haven vs Grand Prix
Timestamps:
0:00 Vs Midrange Blood...
what these 2 runes players were doing
its up
ye
i got raiou despair
First legendary
Always does. Did you end at emerald last set?
i lost to crest haven cus he draw Jeanne (with no card left) and i got no minions to tank for me

Btw you only need 1 sham nacha
Her crest is up on the start of game
No idea why there isn't any mention called "at start of game"

3rd scream and loathing can only search itself for now
Mode Abysscraft doesn't need many evolutions
I don't think any of the mode units require evolution to be used
Meanwhile haven

You need 3 to reliably play her after 10
looks like Mode Abyss is winning
looking like best deck so far ?
well its too early of course lmao
but first initial impression u think mode abyss is good ?
ye i honestly though loot sword not gonna be great
but again its too early
decks are not optimazed at all
either way im just chilling rn
not yet
dragon looks fun
im waiting , just watching stream rn
im still playing Rune
cus u dont add anything in it

play take two no ?
nah im just gonna play Trails
I GOT 2

Nah cygames gotta compensate me for this
i have 2 each of the new forest leggos

and a smattering of the rest
i'm back to aggrobyss for now until the meta develops

I switched apollo for the new abyss 3 drops, should be a slight improvement
Super evolve the 4/4 ward
U got it already prob yea?
3 queues, 3 runes, does rune get all the good cards or something 
You need 0 vials to craft it 


u dont need anything and its strong maybe thats why

oh so this was another mini set huh
44 packs
well thats fine I still continue using my aggrobyss deck cos i cba to theorycraft
so far so good
yes
any jerry enjoyers?
watching ordinaryharry plays it, deck seems fun
might be nice for meme room matches
(and draw quest)
i need to fit odin into faith not having him is cursed
thats yours ?
Show deck
so far faith feels pretty whatever compared to regular abyss
more like a fun kinda quirky deck then anything competitive
I stopped myself from making it customer it needed 30k vials from me

it was ez for me but dragon cost me 30k lol
It might cost me 30k too
6x legos from this set, 3x 2 mana lego from last set
That's 31.5k already 
i made dragon just cause i felt like trying it this prob my last expac
but we'll give it a few days
kekw
yes
idk how tf faith is supposed to beat rune tho
looks borderline impossible because of how slow and control oriented it is
yeah but at least mid range could beat it this is just concerning lol
D climb is just 2 broken
a deck like that shouldnt exist
Personally i don't even know how is anything that doesn't do 20 damage in one turn suppose to do it 
Yugi deck just has an answer for everything
so far im shitting on everything thats not rune lol
new tech quit ever rune match?

That's my old tech
dragon prob sucks dick vs it too lol
Me when i match into rune
I will only play it out if i happen to be playing forest otherwise it's a waste of time
Hows the first impression of new stuff 
abyss is fun dragon seems neat
loot sword doesnt seem that good? but i havent played it much
rune still fucking stupid and idk why it exists

Yeah I thought loot sword was mid
Compared to mid range sword at least
maybe u can splash a bit idk
poggers
yes
I think it's possible this meta will revert back to season 2 meta 
At least rune and sword
This set exists just to fuck over take two power level by introducing shit cards

The only interesting cards are the meme and damagecraft
Ah right
I forgot about forest and haven
There are some interesting cards there
man egg is so good in take two
biggest problem with rune honestly
is that if u d climb all cards stay spell boosted
thats retarded as fuck
It spellboosts the cards 5 times too

honestly eggs might be good in artifacts
u just need to keep 2 space on board
bro egg literally won me game in take two
played it on turn 3
and chiped him down on range of gundam
master promos and im vs rune time to reset lol
well there at 1 maybe theres hope
ok they played bergent i win lol
yippie
only reason i won that cause i kept using castle to buff instead of draw
cause drawing vs rune is pointless better to go for damage
fuck it i made it 
oh my
play 2 of that 4 cost bronze card that draw
This guy is a lunatic
Could have cleared my board but he went face

I'm 2-1 on the free take 2 run
lost to dragon because the whole deck was intimidate 
Does it even matter? 
it doesnt but its just better than the other garbage 
Bro ruby players bming me, while I'm playing jerry deck 

is there any new aggro lists floating around
feel like we didnt rly get support for it outside of rul and that 3 drop maybe
fuck close
This guy whaled so much to make the lish deck
https://www.youtube.com/live/hd9KOyQUYNc the whole deck is premium 
And has all the alt cards too
He's keeping the gama alive
He has like 300k vials
Leviathan 
loot sword is so garbage in take 2
bruh new set realease and u already thinking about new one
yeah?
i mean i think october yes
so prob month na half of saving
i wonder if this set will actually be big so far we had 2 small ones
Because this set is fucking ass
im really liking dragon yeah
but i wish i had dragon mommy this game sucks
sell me the leader u cock
New decks are so strong 
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I like the deck
Bro how
slackers frfr
its pre decent id say
Always the leader
Leader is better imo
Leader>lobby avatar>card style
take two lowkey fun
ye so cringe
Shit
new tech
I did that to a person, I had lethal with coc cards I still passed to win with jerry

man I only have 55k vial, scared to use it
lmao dragon 4 hp before super evo
dont use it on jerry
I have to use it on dragon but I need to wait for lists
I'm too dumb to deckbuild myself
yeah was 30k for me
its fine we got like 2 months almost 2 save shit
i ahve 20k vial left gonna sit on it
if u have any abyss shit too faith is quite fun
but vs rune is cancer
no 2 mana legendary?
hrm
uhh no they dont run it
u can tho
u could take out the 2/2 if it lives draw for it
prob better tbh
LMAO i kill myself with drawing too much i didnt pay attention to it
this guy id take him out for her
That guy is good
Bane cannot destroy it
Yet abilities from units counts
oh nvm
it wasnt that list
this one
bruh my take 2 rune running way too much card draw lmao
2/3 lego is overkill

i think roach farms most decks rn
ugliest fucking leader jesus
Sword leader in BP most probably
isnt that from story
This bp leader is pretty shit
he is but prob BP
Jerry so so shit, idk why they make him cost an evo point
the portal deck with the eggs and egirls looks cute
I wanna play that

but tbh I think I'm done after this set 
Yep goated new decks 
not about if its good or not
Park menu top right
@fading echo has leveled up! (106 โ 107)
before I didnt mind it because I could just run over it fast with aggro abyss
where it says warp code
did you generate a code
well then do it 
u cant
how tf do u generate one
by clicking on warp code and going on the 2nd tab 
user error 
oh brother

Sword new deck is artifact but with less damage to keep up with infinite heals 
yeah pure loot is shit
They have some scary burst but not enough to kill the dev's favorite class
ill tell you whats shit, this game
who said that game was going to get worse (subjective) with next sets
was right
Yeah i wanted to play portal but portal just gets fucked by everything 
With rune you win every game and there's no emotion or challenge 
yeah im ngl what were they smoking with rune
a deck like that shouldnt exist in any game
If there's no weekend tournament, we should organize a community one
Anyway, time to grab my side bitch
lemme see
bruhhh
sep 6th why the fuck is it not this weekend
whats happening that would prevent it
there aint no events and the bingo requires u to play in one smh
Fought a jerry mirror, mfer conceded before my win card

I don't mind concedes at all, but come on man it's jerry 
ya i havent lost to jerry yet it really is that bad lmao
You can't unless you're giga unlucky
First Weekend Lobby Tournaments Following a Card Set's Release
To give all players more time to collect the latest cards and build new decks, the first Weekend Lobby Tournament following a card set's release will now be held on the next weekend instead of the same weekend.
We encourage players to make use of the extra week to collect cards, try out new decks, and develop strategies before participating in a Weekend Lobby Tournament.
Idk why they didn't make him refund an evo when you evo him
basically fuck you, less free rewards for us 
Greedy devs
Devs worried weekend tournament would crash again after a new set like last time

maybe idk fix ur game
give players time to collect cards like we dont have everything day 1
im literally saving for next set already lol
So everyone is getting a 2-2 reward as compensation?



Naw you're getting time to collect cards and test your new strats if you do all the dailies maybe you can open 3 packs by next Saturday 
Literally me if i trying to play portal ranked 
The set released mostly slower cards, Rune rising in popularity was expected by anyone except @cursive crypt
lets go haven # 1
Who really thought people would be bored after only 2 sets
Just stop queueing the devs put you in losers q
Winning is not boring.
I didnt follow the game at all after I hit master
unaware
Seems like a good time to play roach ngl
Roach got decent options to slot in the deck, so yes.
It won't take long before people stop playing memes
I also said this prior
Gimmi new roach deck if anyone has it
ive seen 4 jerry decks since this morning

lots of loot sword and new dragon
whats jerry, didnt see a single one
4 mana 3/3, evo: lose the game
dont think ima buy this battle pass tbh
Leader is ass
that too ya
Alt card is also for an ass card
not spending money at all anymore 
well if u do dailies and play every weekend tourney u basically dont have 2 pay anything
the only thing i want 2 buy is forte leader
idk why we havent gotten any new shop leaders
anything but this old man tbh
yep outplay the entire game but no skill required play 1 card instant win
cygames is retarded lol

I crashed out about rune too then the game gave me all the cards for rune
I'll just play that to avoid getting pissed
i can play rune if i want its just fucking stupid lol
It's the yugi deck always comes back for free 
@cursive crypt what's the current roach deck?










