weeklys?
#Shadowverse
umbral seal
At the gym right now, I'll be available in about an hour
fading echo
good old ward haven 
umbral seal
@brisk adder I'll be in the guild lounge if you still need some games
umbral seal
You can decide what deck I play
wild gale
do me first
wild gale
Nytro play with me 
brisk adder
play whatever
brisk adder
Nytro play with me <:truetrue:842546876960079892>
im in the guild
fading echo
crazy actually beat abyss too
better stop while i'm ahead surely the game will start throwing runes at me if i queue one more 
fading echo
mental block to beat it or to play it
brisk adder
where
umbral seal
Dang, mango poofed
wild gale
where are you
Doing my ranked missions
Fone
I'm in lounge rn if you still wanna play
brisk adder
I'm in lounge rn if you still wanna play
guild?
wild gale
But control abyss took too long
wild gale
brisk adder
bro why youre still trading
this is fast shit
@wild gale bro
what
my turn to win
i dont understand
gritty anvil
not playing odin or forte is crazy
brisk adder
no bro i dont understand
wild gale
They don't count lobby games as actual wins
wild gale
Aight gg
brisk adder
fuck
brisk adder
im fucked
wild gale
It's 5 mana
wild gale
Yeah 6 damage
brisk adder
still 9 mana to deal 6
wild gale
With super Evo you would have lethaled me
brisk adder
your deck pisses me off
wild gale
still 9 mana to deal 6
9 mana is to strike twice with super evo
brisk adder
same with portal
brisk adder
9 mana for 2x attack
wild gale
If there is lethal potential you kill me with it
wild gale
Mid range sword deals with aggro abyss quite well actually
brisk adder
or im jsut fucking bad
brisk adder
Mid range sword deals with aggro abyss quite well actually
how ? how ? how ?
youre just farming me and my mental
wild gale
Dude look at this
Here you have 5 damage on board
I'm at 11 health
If you Albert and super evo'd anything
I would have died
brisk adder
oh im dumb
nocturne karmaBOT
@brisk adder has leveled up! (36 ➜ 37)
wild gale
Yeah I told you I misplayed there
brisk adder
i need more practice
wild gale
It's all about knowing your opponent's matchup and adjusting accordingly
For example my aggro abyss gets countered by portal players spamming infinite heal artifacts while I shit my pants
But luckily rune filtered portal out
Now I can bully rune players
wild gale
When is lacareh playing shadowverse with us anyway
He hopped on it but never commits
Probably because he doesn't have feet leader like me
brisk adder
@umbral seal absorb him into our guild
absorb lacari and check his ego if he suggest bullshit
wild gale
Wait the moment I said it lil bro went live
wild gale
<@267522380904136716> absorb him into our guild
Let's annihilate lacari on stream
I might craft dragon just to play feet girl
brisk adder
Let's annihilate lacari on stream <:truetrue:842546876960079892>
i just got banned for 6 days
omgbruh wc3
umbral seal
<@267522380904136716> absorb him into our guild
I can't force him to do anything he doesn't want to do.
I asked him through ntx and he declined. This was during the 1st week.
Is it possible he changed his mind? Maybe, but I won't be asking a second time.
brisk adder
I asked him through ntx and he declined. This was during the 1st week.
1 week of the game?
primal isle
huh for saying me too? 
umbral seal
Lacari must be very trigger happy today for that to catch a ban.
brisk adder
im not going to watch league slop and he playing only gwen
im going to play my marvel slop
umbral seal
Anyway, I have sub-leaders in the guild for a reason. If he actually wants to join, they have permissions to make space for him.
umbral seal
Obviously not, why would I anoint someone who barely plays and is bad at the game?
brisk adder
2 games
unkempt lava
@umbral seal when do you use the super evolve on the -9 defense dragon
Twlight dragon
brisk adder
<@267522380904136716> when do you use the super evolve on the -9 defense dragon
when you want to draw
gritty anvil
lacari gonna play shadowverse today ?
mystic tartan
gritty anvil
hes playing sv lool
unkempt lava
No way he mulligan zenonova
brisk adder
that hand is awful
brisk adder
his opponent is equally dogshit as him
gritty anvil
is that koncussion with him on call ?
brisk adder
thats ntx
wild gale
I took a nap
unkempt lava
It's C rank? B rank ruby
unkempt lava
is that koncussion with him on call ?
I think it's nyxgx
brisk adder
wtf just guil
gritty anvil
lmaaao
gritty anvil
He was going to whale for feet girl
he did already or not yet ?
brisk adder
no shit why he's ruby
gritty anvil
b3 lol
brisk adder
forest is more technical than sword
wild gale
he did already or not yet ?
Then he realised the chests took 250 pulls
cursive crypt
@mystic tartan u still wanna do weeklies? 
gritty anvil
Then he realised the chests took 250 pulls
lol
but he can get early ask ordine
ordine got 5 tickets before 200
brisk adder
force him to spend for titania
gritty anvil
i think he like arisa
honestly i think lacari would enjoy dragon
its by far easiest deck to pilot
wild gale
but he can get early ask ordine
He can ask me
gritty anvil
even easier than sword
gritty anvil
brisk adder
pffffffffffffft
gritty anvil
hope u dont use sleeves
unkempt lava
Holy shit. I thought i was a shit player. But lacari is something else
unkempt lava
He hit into the bane wars man
gritty anvil
maybe hes just clueless about new cards
unkempt lava
With the 5/5
brisk adder
rise meta is basic af
gritty anvil
ye kinda
gritty anvil
puppet portal is pretty good
its not top tier
but one lower
i would say
its also easy to play
unkempt lava
Lacari plays like a control player for forestcraft
brisk adder
i dont wanna know if he plays yugioh or mtg
unkempt lava
Could've done 10 face if lacari wanted
gritty anvil
i really hope puppets gets good 4 drop
next set
maybe its gonna be lishenna
she was puppet support right ?
unkempt lava
Had lethal if he returns roach
brisk adder
he has lethal
unkempt lava
And use amulet
wild gale
https://www.svo.gg/news-posts/svo-2025-official-season-announcement @gritty anvil it's in singlepoor
gritty anvil
https://www.svo.gg/news-posts/svo-2025-official-season-announcement <@6645931275...
why ingnidiues said its in japan
no thats not the biggest pool price
thats only 30k usd
hes already qualified for World Grand Prix 2025
and thats in japan
100 milion yen
gritty anvil
he won SVO
but didnt get this much
i dont know where is that 30k from
oh wait
its total
prize pool
that make sense
first got like what
1500 USD
something like that
rest is split between other places i think
holy shit 100 milion yen is like 670k usd
wild gale
holy shit 100 milion yen is like 670k usd
Thats nothing compared to what cygames earned
Worthwhile investment
wild gale
btw there is one guy that have 40 giladarias
Mental illness
gritty anvil
he has every deck fully animated
wild gale
wild gale
he has every deck fully animated
He's probably one of the few guys that have 9 tickets
Apparently only 26 people have that
Wait
That's for fucking first set
Getting into debt from Yakuza for cygames
mystic tartan
<@729570331747942480> u still wanna do weeklies? <:Okayge:824497742574256158>
Ye
U want??
mystic tartan
Okay ill be waiting
brisk adder
He's probably one of the few guys that have 9 tickets
you banned bro? 
wild gale
you banned bro? <:KEK:831007857204789278>
Banned from chat
Par for the course when fishing
warped granite
haven askers I went to bed after watching him win. here's the list
wild gale
haven askers I went to bed after watching him win. here's the list
He won with ward haven????
warped granite
maybe better resolution kek
wild gale
Ain't no way
warped granite
yeah he won
warped granite
yeah almost everyone brings forest
wild gale
yeah almost everyone brings forest
Should have brought rune aggro abyss
warped granite
he's also lucky, there's 1 game all 3 roaches bottom 10 lul
i think rune underperformed yesterday
cursive crypt
I won't lie that haven deck looks unplayable
warped granite
unplayable as in bad matchup as forest, or will suck ass on ladder to play
cursive crypt
Feels like u will just die to sword and abyss before turn 7
warped granite
yeah it's a meta call deck i feel
he just assumes everyone will bring forest, and everyone does
cursive crypt
Also loses to rune and dragon 
warped granite
i think he got a few bad matchups go his way
like he won vs rune and sword with haven
cursive crypt
You literally can't interact with board before turn 5 unless you have divine thunder
Imo dose of holiness is just bis in the deck cause you can kill stuff like beryl and prim's token
So you won't be at 7 HP by turn 6 and die to odin
warped granite
divine guard pretty good no
cursive crypt
They go wide tho, u just gambling
If sword plays lancer into valse you are probably dead unless you have one of your 2 divine thunder
Not to mention going 1st
umbral seal
<@267522380904136716> when do you use the super evolve on the -9 defense dragon
Low on cards with no card draw in hand. That being said, I often try not to play twilight dragon unless forced to because it's Dragon's best board clear
unkempt lava
maybe better resolution kek
No griffin or amulet storl packages
I knew it
My deck building skill knows
unkempt lava
Low on cards with no card draw in hand. That being said, I often try not to play...
Sucks seeing 12/12 die to 2 cost removal
red plover
oh shit, buffs for forest and haven in take 2 
gritty anvil
haven askers I went to bed after watching him win. here's the list
grimnir was in almost every deck
i like his abyss list
brisk adder
youre rushing too much
lone agate
I was one of the last people here getting master
its just, for how much I like sword 90% its mirrors
take two fumbled
blissful olive
yeah it was just a big grind not many ppl wanna do that
like i'll prob get masters by the end of the month cause im pre much just doing dailies now
true abyss
Weekly anyone
blissful olive
love this game
brick city this morning good god
changing abyss craft to brick craft
fading echo
They should make the win streaks class based like sf6 is character based
Sometimes i wanna go play a shit class without breaking the streak on the broken classes 
gritty anvil
i bought hairstyle for 200 rupies
fading echo
Rare footage of portal not demoting
fading echo
Had to build two af y to outplay this guy
cursive crypt
Promoted to Ruby 
holy bro was in the depths of hell
gritty anvil
solid deck
fading echo
Here comes the lose streaks god decided i have to play sword and abyss while not getting any of my cost 2 cards
gritty anvil
topdeck odin or orchis pls
rip no topdeck i have like one more turn before i die
bruh he had perfect lethal rip
i didnt even get extra turn
fading echo
puppet would be so goated if victoria had storm instead of rush
also if zwei was a small orchis
imagine zwei gives storm too
gritty anvil
lmao
u crazy ?
that would be sooo busted
it would be 8 face dmg on turn 5
oh u mean evo
zwei
and give it storm ?
thats still busted
gritty anvil
imagine zwei gives storm too
ye sure buddy 5 mana 11 storm dmg on evo
we have problem to deal with odin and thats only 4 storm 
fading echo
portal needs it they're struggling 
fading echo
i mean going by the jp sweaty website portal and dragon are the only b tier crafts all the others have s and a tier decks
gritty anvil
well ward haven really depends on meta in some meta it can be good but in some dogshit
because
it won
ppl want to try it
fading echo
i mean the other classes sword forest and rune are all pretty much copying the same decklists from pros
so how will ladder be different than a tournament enviroment
gritty anvil
for example griminr was very common in svo
in almost every deck
on ladder u dont see him that often
gritty anvil
so how will ladder be different than a tournament enviroment
its different because they know what ppl bring what decks
so they can aim for their match ups
to be better
dont be pepega
on ladder u play milions of different decks
well not milions but its def more variable
portal can be also good in tournament enviroment
depends what u going to face
fading echo
i mean i see variety on dragon haven and portal players but the others all pretty much play the same shit except the random 1 in 10 mid range abyss players instead of aggro
gritty anvil
also u are in ruby ppl play different stuff
there
than diamond
also skill is different aswell
fading echo
like it's not uncommon for me to see haven players doing storm or amulet or stealthcuck decks instead of just ward 24/7
but sword and rune it's all the same deck
forest too
gritty anvil
storm haven isnt common in any ranks
and this is why haven is one of weakest
because they have only 2 mid decks
storm or ward haven
fading echo
i mean isn't the ward list over 20 legendary cards
gritty anvil
and what
fading echo
i'm sure most haven players would make it if they had the cards
fading echo
no it's just harder to see
fading echo
because people won't have it
gritty anvil
or aggro blood
*abyss
i was facing a lot ward haven
in lower rank
so ppl def had enough to craft it
fading echo
i wasn't saying legendary = good i was saying it's harder to see decks that have 20+ legendaries because f2p won't have those cards unless they get lucky or just save all the vials to play 1 deck
gritty anvil
ward haven is only now slightly mroe popular because of SVO wait few weeks and its gonna be again rare deck on ladder
red plover
at this point anyone that wanted to play ward would have made it already though
gritty anvil
i wasn't saying legendary = good i was saying it's harder to see decks that have...
well yes and no
thing is
if ppl play only one craft
they can make easily one expensive deck
red plover
thats me
gritty anvil
midrange abyss is good vs ward haven puppets are good vs ward haven ramp dragon too
sword can def beat it aswell
only roach really struggle or aggro abyss but abyss aggro can still beat it becasue they ending games before 7
sometimes
aggro dragon nobody plays
oh also rune have high chance beating ward haven aswell
red plover
yea but rune is rune
gritty anvil
well i just said like 4-5 decks that dosnt really struggle with ward haven that much
artifact portal is pretty bad vs ward haven
because their gundam prolly never go face
i wonder whats winrate on ward haven vs sword
i actually have no clue
i feel like deck is good if they have good chance vs sword because ladder is swarmed by sword
i always play most againts sword
out of any classes
red plover
I definitely win more against sword but Im not a masters player
gritty anvil
but i guess ward haven must be slightly favorable
because sword just cant go face
vs that deck
they must win on board
but ye swords running 3 odins
a lot of lists
2-3
so your wilbert most likely gets deleted
they have banes
rose
for killing wards
gildaria
amalia
but haven have vesseles jeanne
that match up must be close
fading echo
artifact portal is pretty bad vs ward haven
depends really
if you get a good start you can just spam stuff that hits over the wards and clear wards until they die
like this
red plover
its been a while since I matched an artifact player
gritty anvil
oh i guess depends on list
some artifacts plays also odins
also orchis is good vs ward haven
and ye u can make double aoe artifact or even triple and haven is kinda fucked
like ward haven would be like tier or two up if odin never existed
your wilberts would be safe lapises
gritty anvil
i want to try aritfact portal without orchises and other puppets generator just pure artifacts
with triple canon
fading echo
Portal is so shitty i can't even do the two ranked wins quest played like 10 games won 1
fading echo
i want to try aritfact portal without orchises and other puppets generator just ...
Dead turn 5 no board presence because the artifact cards don't do shit
Meanwhile 3pp sword is sniping the board with 5 damage anywhere
the af early game cards
literally only top right has rush all the others you drop them and they don't do shit
not even rush
so you're just dropping cards getting board cleared and eating face damage by the other player until allouette
umbral seal
If you're still running Elise, Whip Lass & Kitty, your list is extremely outdated.
fading echo
i'm showing all the options to show that there's nothing
it's all dogshit
gotta waste evo points on these trash so they do anything and you still die anyway
umbral seal
- Wrong - 2. We can play the match up with whatever deck you want.
Artifact isn't top tier but it's not dogshit.
fading echo
how do you use those cards that don't do anything to deal with sword or abyss spamming storm on you
umbral seal
I don't use half the cards you listed, portal has other early game drops that you did not list and swing turns happen from turn 4 onward. You usually are not hard-losing the game before evos unlock.
fading echo
you only start playing the game turn 5 as portal if you get allouette and you're already half hp by then
umbral seal
You fundamentally don't understand how the game works when you make arguments like this.
fading echo
even to drop the 3 cost ward as if abyss and sword don't have insta kills do clear it you still gotta drop 2 cards and have 3pp to drop it
so you're always playing to catch up
and you drop your 3pp 1/5 ward early it gets sniper or clipped by princess
or that trade kill spell from abyss
umbral seal
Dropping the 1/5 ward on curve is usually unnecessary. You shouldn't even be panic dropping that in most situations because you're simply making your swing turns worse by doing so.
umbral seal
You can quite literally catapult a gamma on the following turn, are you acting like the game is already lost at this point?
fading echo
he luminous so i had to clear again
umbral seal
Shit player mentality. Like I said, let's run some games. You can play sword, and I'll play artifacts.
fading echo
i'm saying you're always playing with a losing hand with portal unless the other guy is bricked
you never have any board so you never hit face and you're always having to clear whatever they're playing out because i'm already 1 hp from albert range
umbral seal
Sword is top tier, we already know that. Artifacts is still not weak, though, and trying to claim it's bad because it's disadvantaged against midrange sword is a terrible argument because midrange sword doesn't have any match-up where it's more than slightly disadvantaged. Not even Rune.
Now are we going to run some games or not?
fading echo
what for i already now artifact sucks it's just gonna lose anyway? 
umbral seal
I'm not asking you to play artifacts, I will. I already stated that.
umbral seal
Okie dokes.
fading echo
are you kuncussion?
umbral seal
Yes? lol You can see that on my discord profile
Albert super evo face was a massive misplay
You let my 4/3 attack your face multiple times
Which is why you lost
fading echo
sure i like the shield on 5/3
i never do that because people just clear so easily but can push something out of kill range
umbral seal
If you're never using camelia's evo, you are piloting artifacts terribly wrong.
Which makes me think you wouldn't take even one game off me if I played sword and you played artifacts
fading echo
i user her but i try puting her on the other 2
umbral seal
Sometimes, you need to use what's available to you
fading echo
because they have more hp
umbral seal
More hp is irrelevant when gamma is the best artifact to play against sword. Making beta nor alpha made no sense when I needed to clear and protect myself at the same time.
On the turn I did that, I could've played alouette instead and chose not to
Because I wanted a better artifact
fading echo
i see
umbral seal
I also always assume zirconia is coming
Now, keep in mind, I don't play artifacts in ranked because it's not consistent enough to stay in diamond masters (imo)
But it's decent enough, especially in a tournament environment, or to stay sapphire minimum
brisk adder
im losing my mind
im losing my mind
im losing my mind
im losing my mind
i hate abyss and portal
mystic tartan
Portal is ass
brisk adder
Just kill the units
im back playing ward
warped granite
Just play aggrobyss brother 
brisk adder
that shit needs a fucking nerf
an aggro deck has a fucking board clear is fucking illegal
and it has burn
make this 6
make this 5
make this 3 or nerf the health to 2
the deck lethal you in turn 4 is fucking cancer
warped granite
I ain't gonna suffer rune players recycling their whole hands, either I kill them by turn 4 or I concedr
brisk adder
I ain't gonna suffer rune players recycling their whole hands, either I kill the...
i eat rune players for breakfast
warped granite
Which is why the deck is popular
wild gale
the deck lethal you in turn 4 is fucking cancer
Turn 4 is a bit of a stretch
When rune uses sagelight I need to use Odin
gritty anvil
aggro decks needs to exist
even if u hate it
someone needs to punish these slower decks
unkempt lava
where are the havencraft doubters again
yappers saying it's sucks and all. Wheres x amulet and griffin
gritty anvil
just because ward haven was dominating SVO doesnt necessary mean its great ladder deck
its ok deck but i would not say top tier
warped granite
He also rode his luck if we're being real
The haven guy
He played well of course
gritty anvil
ward haven cant even be allowed to be that popular on ladder otherwise there would be swarming with ramp dragons
and not only dragon
but atleast ward haven keeping in check roaches
warped granite
And he did well to seal up the should be winnable matchups where he DIDN'T draw well
Yeah the winner knew tourney would be swarming with roach and won his gamble
gritty anvil
this is why sword is that popular it doesnt really have bad match ups it can beat anything and its very easy to play
and if something is favorable againts sword its not by much
brisk adder
Yeah the winner knew tourney would be swarming with roach and won his gamble
ward counters roach
gritty anvil
i think haven still win that match up even if they dont draw aether
he actually win one game i think
in svo
he didnt have single aether and still beat roach
just wilbert is so annoying for them to deal with
mystic tartan
how the fuck am i suppose to win against control abyss
with sword
its impossible fuck this shit
back to rune
umbral seal
make this 3 or nerf the health to 2
Prime example of why gamers should not be in charge of balance.
brisk adder
Prime example of why gamers should not be in charge of balance.
well how youre going to balance it?
umbral seal
If you think aggro abyss needs nerfs, you are bad at this game.
It's competitive against the top 3 (midrange sword, sb rune and combo roach) but it is not broken.
mystic tartan
yeah aggro abyss is nowhere near op territory
i say control is more op 
i got deleted
by double cerberus
hate ginsetsu too
when no evos
warped granite
We should judge power level of decks across multiple games. 1 game of god draw can win any games, and aggrobyss is definitely capable of such god draws
Aggrobyss is definitely strong though, reddit says it's weak but fast they don't know the sauce
fading echo
New cards from next pack will probably make abyss even stronger unless they give everyone anti aggro cards
@umbral seal this is what i had that turn we played when i dropped a raw albert
Maybe the missplay was mulligan gildaria? :
Traded her there because i was hoping for a zirconia
umbral seal
Aggrobyss is definitely strong though, reddit says it's weak but fast they don't...
It's very consistent for an aggro deck, which is why it's all I play right now. But there's no world where it deserves nerfs.
umbral seal
Maybe the missplay was mulligan gildaria? :<:HmmTea:856610758729531433>
Mulling Gildaria was fine. Personally, I don't run 3 Amalia's.
Your misplay was not killing the 4/3, thinking I'd have no way to respond to an obvious 2 turn lethal set up when I'm at turn 7 with the coin
We were both at 12 hp, if I had Orchis, you were just dead
8 + 4 = 12
Does using Albert unevolved to kill a 4/3 feel great? No, but that was far more correct than what you did.
A lot of y'all make multiple misplays every game and blame shit like deck strength or bad luck. That's why I'm always a hard-ass
Watch the replay and count how many times you let my Camelia hit your face
I'm fairly certain she did 12 by herself
fading echo
Your misplay was not killing the 4/3, thinking I'd have no way to respond to an ...
I see
Climbed with portal
I've been playing kinda like how you did and it hasn't been that bad
umbral seal
I don't even have that many ranked wins on portal, it's like 50 out of the 1k+ wins I have overall. I just understand the strengths and weaknesses of artifacts & puppets. Puppets needs way more help, though.
fading echo
What do play?
umbral seal
Currently, just aggro abyss for dailies since it's both fast & consistent in diamond master. Most of my wins are on Sword (500+) but I've retired that class until I get 500+ on a couple other crafts first.
Would like to go back to being a dragon main but that's trolling in the current meta.
umbral seal
I played a lot during release. I've lowered my playtime considerably since then because I don't have a real reason to grind.
Not until grandmaster rank is released.
warped granite
aggrobyss 4 losses then 4 wins in a row, this is the hustling life 
red plover
what is abyss even weak against
red plover
doesnt medusa deal with norman,
fading echo
This match was a struggle
unkempt lava
You guys watched the shadowvese anime?
fading echo
I heard about it but i haven't seen it
gritty anvil
how the fuck am i suppose to win against control abyss
skill issue sword def can beat control abyss
mystic tartan
Yeah good luck against double cerb every goddamn time
fading echo
So stupid that the ghosts banish themselves so they don't brick cerberus
gritty anvil
it really depends how u draw and them
abyss have limited healing
without cerbs
well even with cerbs
they usually go for mimi
mystic tartan
Limited healing what
gritty anvil
even if they bleeding
mystic tartan
Olivia
gritty anvil
lol
gritty anvil
oh i forget about her lol
fading echo
I try to deal with cerb by not leaving anything there for her to combo and then try removing the whole board but that's best case scenario
mystic tartan
Yeah if i don't have evo enought its literally joever
Ginsetsu is too retarded
When both no evo
gritty anvil
well i mean u have free evos gildarias in late game
mystic tartan
They have medusa too to clear my ass
gritty anvil
also depends some abyss runs mukan
some dont
mukan is actually pretty good vs sword
but i assume
everyone runs list
that won svo
abyss
that have no mukan but double grimnir
grimnir is good vs sword aswell
gritty anvil
well its weird
becaues that deck have almost no card draw
u just gettin rnged
they run only 3 olivia thats it for card draw
and they can only play 1 before cerb turn so ye
like puppets are more likely
to draw double orchis
than abyss
double cerb
gritty anvil
fading echo
this is so stupid
umbral seal
im not saying its not abyss favored
It's not abyss favored. Sword's hardest match up is against aggro, and even that is even. You can out mid & late game midrange and control.
fading echo
kneel before the gundam rune scum 
unluckiest guy on earth he dclimb 2x after satan and didn't get lethal
must be all the bad karma from playing rune
gritty anvil
It's not abyss favored. Sword's hardest match up is against aggro, and even that...
so ordine is just unlucky
or skill issue
umbral seal
Well, yeah. It'd be like claiming Portal is broken because you keep losing to double Orchis.
Like that's not how that works
fading echo
right after that quick 20 turns game versus rune because the cunt class has infinite healing
it's just not worth the time of life lost if i'm not playing something that can rush rune down 
mystic tartan
It's not abyss favored. Sword's hardest match up is against aggro, and even that...
Yeah i almost got that guy
But he pulled 3 aragavy and double cerb
umbral seal
Pulling all 3 of your turn 5 swing cards and 2/3 of your 8-drop finishers is an extremely lucky draw, especially if they did not play any card draw prior.
Most games do not come down to luck but there are games that you're not meant to win. That was one of them.
lone agate
someone pretending to be fubuki
not queen fubuki
fading echo
3 games in a roll versus ward haven
this game sucks
die wardcuck
my personal hell is killing these 10 hp wards
umbral seal
Do you not run 2x Orchis? You should.
Although Ward Haven is similar to Sword in the sense that double Gamma will ruin their aether turn if you have Ralmia, in case you don't draw Orchis.
unkempt lava
Casino dragoncraft pretty fun. If you get atleast one fenne
Ok you cannot increase cost of 10 costs to 11 costs
umbral seal
You can. It works on cocytus. It does not work on Kuon because that's "enhance 10" on a 7 mana creature.
unkempt lava
Is it just me or is filenne overated?
umbral seal
Definitely just you.
umbral seal
Dragon in general is not good into those match ups unless you draw your stabilizers (Neptune) on time, and you're choosing to blame Filene for that?
Aight, cut her then. 
unkempt lava
Dragon needs one more 3 cost ramp card
Or a sustain card as good of neptune. Or a removal at class based 3-4 cost
On the crisp of being good
umbral seal
They don't need more healing. They just need more ramp, Hops & I stated that ages ago. Dragonslayer already exists and dragon has the best board clears in the game. They're still low tier because they don't ramp fast enough and even when they do, they can't do multiple things per turn without fennie.
unkempt lava
Some more cost reduction would be bice too
umbral seal
But because of how busted Dragon was in SV1 for multiple metas, you are not going to get half the things you're wanting.
I'll settle for just more ramp.
mystic tartan
yeah im picking Rune
mystic tartan
elnosabe
warped granite
https://old.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1mosgkp/current_finisher_design_makes_wards_feel/
I just lost to aggrobyss ahh post
I don't disagree with the point that there are too many board clears in this game though, but that seems intentional design to me
blissful olive
every boss monster has a board clear attached to it pre much
mystic tartan
https://old.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1mosgkp/current_finisher_design_ma...
reminds me when i drop 2 william
into 2 sevo aether
feels so good
mystic tartan
Date on the pic
warped granite
Yeah I dunno what to do in that shit but I'm team fennie
brisk adder
brisk adder
My abyss luck was bad today
you lose to what?
wild gale
you lose to what?
Portal rune and especially sword
I only lost to rune because I didn't have bats
They Odined
And portal managed to get 2 Sylvias which meant they healed 8 health back
I would have won if it was just 1 Sylvia man
Unlucky
fading echo
Park win trade witch hunt 
fading echo
Play sword to kill sword
I saw a jp streamer and he had some pretty cool wallpapers in game from shadowverse 1
I can't get those on wb too if i play sv1 can i?
red plover
apparently they are pretty easy to unlock
just need to link your sv1 account or something
fading echo
I never played sv1 buy i guess i can play that too and get some free stuff
red plover
just need to play the tutorial and then you can link the account already
fading echo
I like how the jp pro i used to watch to learn portal stuff gave up and it's just one tricking forest
fading echo
He was so mad he requested a rematch but i win quit
gritty anvil
i dont get this new event
u pick side
fennie zwei or kuon
and u contribute points to it ?
do i have to play only dragon if i pick fennie ?
umbral seal
You're the #1 dragon simp here so I'm surprised that'd be an issue
red plover
you only pick a team and then just do the tasks
fading echo
Zirconia turn 4 is so balanced people see her they give up
gritty anvil
you only pick a team and then just do the tasks
oh thats it ?
gritty anvil
@umbral seal charon winning me games in aggro
charon is so strong in mirror if i res beryl or bat and evo it they fucked
especially beryl evo heal for 5 in aggro mirror thats wrap
umbral seal
It's in my deck for a reason
blissful olive
screwing around with haven again
this deck actually cant play vs rune period lol
S tier in 2 weeks surely
umbral seal
It won't be.
blissful olive
lowkey it deserves to be its been the worst deck since launch lol
umbral seal
Nothing deserves to be top tier, and launch was only in June. That's a very short amount of time.
You'd have an argument if it's been a year.
umbral seal
If you're hoping for a situation where every deck is on similar power levels, that's never going to happen.
mystic tartan
Plus art is not that good
umbral seal
Every class will have their time in the sun, eventually.
blissful olive
long as ur not team kuon but
mystic tartan
Im not into realism
mystic tartan
do u get a copy of the card btw
i mean its Dragonsign,Foresight,Puppet
of course its the art bruh
its not the legos
fading echo
they're using AI art on shadowverse
https://youtu.be/Z8SoIxwRXpQ?t=25 pause and look at kuon's hand
it's all fucked up
shameless
umbral seal
Yeah, that hand looks extremely weird. Almost thought it was only 4 fingers but that's just lighting.
Thumb is bent very strangely and there's way too much space between the pinky & ring.
fading echo
important information since some people think it's for the legendaries
zwei on puppets seems most value since spells don't get evo alts
brisk adder
important information since some people think it's for the legendaries <:OMEGALU...
I want the weeb dragon sign
wild gale
They can't be that broke man
gritty anvil
important information since some people think it's for the legendaries <:OMEGALU...
honestly having alt art on puppet thats some value
not only evo but also puppets are very common where dragonsigh u run only 3 copies same with foresight
umbral seal
They can't be that broke man
Rich entities don't stay rich by not cutting corners.
gritty anvil
i think i still join dragon tho
but honestly doesnt matter that much what win
i play all 3 crafts
rune is most meta out of these 3
umbral seal
Yeah, this is a meaningless event from my perspective but I'll be choosing dragon.
mystic tartan
well atleast got some free stuffs from playing
do we get new set after the 28 august ??
wild gale
Rich entities don't stay rich by not cutting corners.
Artists are already working for 0 dollars 
unkempt lava
<:OMEGALUL:641778355737329673>
Yeah the talisman is built into the finger
umbral seal
i wonder if its bigger set
It will be a standard set. Infinity Evolved is the only mini-set that we're getting (so far)
gritty anvil
oh shit so its gonna be 140 cards propably
well that make even more sense saving my rupies for new take two
umbral seal
Correct. Anyone thinking what they spent for Infinity Evolved will be enough for the next set is going to be very surprised.
mystic tartan
oh shi
fading echo
i have 0 gold 0 vials 
warped granite
Whoever you pick don't pick kuon fuck that guy
Fennie is probably the most popular
From JP streamers at least I think so too over there but who knows
unkempt lava
I am now masters
I dropped to ruby by playing dragoncraft. I would say I'm hardstuck sapphire
umbral seal
Grats. You'll find that it's difficult to not only get to diamond master, but stay there, if you're not playing a top tier deck.
But, if you don't particularly care about flaunting your mmr/rank, it ultimately doesn't matter.
umbral seal
I can hit diamond. Just draw better
Top tiers are top tiers because they win consistently even with an average draw and/or have potent draw engines (roach/rune) so that "drawing better" is not an issue in most games.
unkempt lava
Nah i got the luck of the cards or some crap
I get wilbert = i win.
But i need both Salfea and wilbert against agro or i lose
mystic tartan
From JP streamers at least I think so too over there but who knows
Fennie for the W
Dirt > Foresight anyway
umbral seal
That's not a reliable win condition. But, I suppose I'll be hearing from you if you get diamond master before this season ends.
red plover
well the crest is still pretty strong if you can survive afterwards
umbral seal
- It's not - 2. The tempo loss from having Wilbert/Lapis Odin'd is often fatal.
Personally don't mind playing any Ward Haven defender in a ft5. You can even choose my deck (I don't play Forest)
red plover
youd just win by having so much more experience anyway
umbral seal
My experience is exactly why I keep discouraging fellas from playing Ward Haven if they're serious about winning.
red plover
I just like playing haven because I like it
umbral seal
Sure, but there's more than Ward Haven. Or maybe people just like cosplaying as Sword
Because that's really what Ward Haven does with Aether
red plover
if I cared about winning that much I wouldnt play it to begin with
well I only play ward haven because its the best haven deck right now, if there was something better I would play that instead
warped granite
I don't mind ward haven but their players seem to bitch the most on reddit
Usually about aggro
umbral seal
Usually about aggro
Well, the problem is that even if they draw Salefa, by that point, the aggro player will have so much out-of-hand damage to end the game
warped granite
Is it? I think it kinda depends whether you get salefa or not
umbral seal
So the defensive response is irrelevant
umbral seal
Is it? I think it kinda depends whether you get salefa or not
I've had haven players have Salefa on curve
That alone does not save you
warped granite
If the aggro player is turn 2 plays on curve and has Odin yeah no hands will save you there
umbral seal
Aggro abyss in particular has a lot of out-of-hand damage that the Haven player would have to have double Salefa and still hope I never draw Olivia
red plover
I usually die even with salefa yea
warped granite
They should bitch more about rune which blocks design space for other control decks
I guess they do too
red plover
rune feels more winnable to me at least
umbral seal
Cygames will just try to print more anti-combo cards (similar to what they did by printing Yurius & Whitefrost to counter roach) even though the most straight-forward solution is to just nerf Rune
red plover
but maybe because I dont die by turn 7
warped granite
If I'm the rune Vs ward haven it's like an 8-2 matchup for me