#Shadowverse
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nah if i dont have staff/glade vs midrange control i lose anyway
glade is turn 5
u can wait few turns
vs aggro u dont have that time
to draw your early drops
that would depends if you start first or 2nd
vs dragon u can
but realising that you arent vs aggro and u just threw away glade and/or staff
mulligan for ramp
also feels bad
if you start first against control and you mulligan for aggro game might have ended
i play vs control/midrange more often these past few days
nah vs control
yea they are more often
abyss ?
so i just stopped mulliganing for aggro
and dont use resources early
you really can't have dead turns against control abyss
its control lol they dont hit your face early really
yeah, its better to kill them before their turn 8/9
also why its bad
Testing swordcraft and faced artidact portal 4x in a row
cygames in my walls
you stalling against control abyss ?
they play
ligma ?
u run out of juice man
staff is 3
ye but u usuallay only need one of it for starter
but ye there are 2 versions of abyss one looks like control
you will end up dealing with a horde
but its midrange
and that deck can kill u
pretty fast
because they run exella
its not aggro
but also not control
it doesnt matter cause they dont run fuckin 100 face damage in their deck
no
control deck full control deck
dont have that much face dmg
only cerb
with crypt
they dont
correct
but they run exella mummy serpents
yes so i will still be able to drop staff on 3 for free
i show u midrange list
controls end game is the yuri demon wall

also vs aggro i will keep roach in mulligan but its really bad vs midrange/control
im just losinhg before game started
whihc ones
both of them you will have a hard time dealing with if you mulligan for aggro
you run out of juice
you are toast
control can easily just go full aggro if you are playing too slow
same with midrange
if i was u
just topdeck staff or glade 
wait
dont u supposed to keep glade
vs anything
same way dirt can kill you turn 7 if you can't clear norman when you are at full hp
every deck have insane face damage anyway have you seen this set bro
yes i would keep may and fairy tamer no matter the matchup but if i see 4 cards in mulligan and they are glade, bayle, staff and roach
and idk what my opponent is playing
like glade is literlaly never bad keep almost
even on 5 its ok to keep
if you see abyss its always fine to keep glade
u can clear aragavy
id honestly keep glade in hand as a prio
same
yea lemme clear aragavy with a 5 cost unit while he keeps doing face damage to me
but im not forest player
instead of developing fairies and may
i mean u have to remove him no
a 5 for 5 is good tho
so why not with glade
well some aggro runs apollo
they need legit a 2nd aragavy to ckear
now what
well im jumping for joy if they play 3pp 1/2 instead of killing me
they can probably clear with mukan tomb combo
gives me more time
that is a win
i run 3 apollo in aggro dragon
what so if they clear your entire board with apollo
u happy
i dont care about my board being cleared literally
hookay buddy
an aggro throwing an apollo onm his turn id be really happy
would i rather have the face dragon play apollo or click otohime and hit me for 4 damage in the face
but glade dies anways
well if they have another aragavy congrats
so whats the difference
i aint winning that anyway
just play glade on 5
also they need to remove glade
when u go wide they only die to a 2nd aragavy
they cnat just leave 5/5 there
mukan isnt in aggro
anything clears a 5/5 when they have evo 
really? thats surpising mukan good
i drop Phil on 2
thats w
they will use evo every turn man it dont matter, but if i go wide its more annoying for them to clear
just try keep glade every game if u already have him on hand vs abyss try it
i did lol
staff u can mulligan away
making them burn an evo on a trade is better than it hitting your face
or keep
but w/e
yes
well in forest is very high chance
u draw into early game
if u kept only 1 card high cost card
forest have very low curve
turn 5 or 6 u want a roach in your hand and aa lot of cheap cards
not glade
dead card to keep
by turn 5 both you and the abyss player would have 10-13 hp
not if u winning on board early
lemme play glade
and forest have high chance winning early boards even if u keep one 5 cost card
idk what else to tell u man, glade is just bad and unplayable, u always want to build a board or roach them
im not necessry saying hes good vs aggro but its just one 5 cost card u keep and if u already have low costs why not keep it
u say this like i cant just have a useless lambent or staff when i keep glade
now that i kept glade
and glade is great againts both types
i have 3 unplayable cards
control and midrange
nice
so there is only one archetype thats not great
glade is legit a lose con to keep
i would keep glade yes
all this was because i said if i knew what the abyss is playing i would have a better chance at beating them
you would have to be very greedy
???
unless u play vs aggro abyss
lmao
or face dragon
so why u arguing with me
im telling u its bad to keep
i literally told u to keep glade
you telling him to keep glade against aggro abyss
well yes but u dont know that
always assume its aggro abyss
well if u always assuming thats aggro of course not
i was just saying as in general u should always keep glade
its auto lose if they are aggro
yes
LOL
u have like milion cards in deck that deal with early pressure
and a million more thats unplayable
keeping glade already made that hand worse
ok example u know u facing aggro ok
u have best 3 cards vs aggro and one glade
do u keep glade ?
no
lol
if i know for sure ?
why do i keep him ?
i have higher chance of being comfortable
hell nahh these packs gotta be seeded somehow. All my legendaries have been wilbert or some shit.
I got like 7 of him now 
no i mean u already have godlike cards vs aggro why not keep glade that can clear their turn 5 board
and u draw possible into more cheap stuff
or finisher
u have a billion ways to clear their board while doing more things than just drawing 2
in what scenario im dropping glade turn 5 if i have good hand for aggro
brother its turn 5 😭 i would have to draw 3 fairy convocations and 3 fairy tamers
glades a draw 2 as well i just dont see why you wouldnt just drop on 5
what is that scenario
abe just assume
everything in aggro abyss
goes face
like they dont fight for board
like yes they have lots of cards
that goes face directly
but they still need some board to push some dmg too
do u see aggro abyss running out of cards on turn 5? no they run out of cards on turn 6-7
why would i run out of cards on turn 5
its never happening
because all theri card draws are shit
they dont have glade
we have demon that dmg your face
lol
yea they dont need it
our face
they kill you before they run out of cards
or they lose
u dont need card draw
vs aggro
actually they run olivia
what im i drawing 2 cards for
if you playing past turn 7 on aggro abyss i recommend that you really change the deck because whatever your doing is just a waste of time
Yoo green chest gave me kuon
I was so surprised I didn't even screenshot
+1250 vials poggers
i dont know if i had already great early game i would keep glade even vs aggro
but that glade even increase chance u draw roach on turn 6 and play it i doubt u gonna finish game with roach on 5
vs aggro
you can roach them on 5 with bug alert, push 4 damage while clearing their board lol
one of you will die on 6 anyway
or literaslly just drop the roach there
not recalling it
yes but with glade u have guarantee u cleared their board and get 2 more cards for turn 6
a lot better
u will be missing 4damage
and not able to kill them on 6
its not an argument man
again this depends some games if u really needed to clear their boards but some games they had no board like glade on enemy empty board is just bad vs aggro
clearing the board is not the issue, its to push as much damage as possible while doing it
i only said one case where i would keep him vs aggro if my rest of early cards are already good
i mean im not forest player after all 
ur liek asking me if i would keep apollo vs runecraft when 3 of my cards are already good
no brainer question man
both plays is as dead as you are at the end of the match
well not really but usually againts aggro u still have that turn 6 and u get chance to draw better apollo just do nothing specifically in rune match up
damn I checked and Im
Rune: 9-2
Abyss: 3-1
Portal:0-2
Forest: 1-2
Sword: 4-4
so sad no dragon haven players
Ward Haven fotm barely lasted a week
35 games and counting now
i meet ward storm haven usually
with odin and agnes i believe ??
the one with storm
Also faster matches
Daily crying about rune thread

Man i think hybrid rune is more consistent than spellboost
I actually win more with it
I go full ER
i mean looking at the data above in the website i sent earth actually more consistent in diamond master than hybrid spellboost
although if you take a look at midrange sword you will find out that its basically leagues above anything else beside control abyss

i think i played a total of like
7 ranked games
and i got 3 chest
already have sleeves too
good old super evo dog hit face
Holy shit lacari playing shadowverse? Or is he just pulling?
Or will he pull then quit again? (Like limbus)
someone link him the non combo deck for forest
soneone link him this one
his brain cant play otk roach
No staff. Alright send him
funny thing is, he doesnt even need to spend money for that deck
he prolly can craft it easily
3x aria?
aria is your wincon
of course you can have good tempo and chip damage with fairies
but aria is your finisher
along with odin
Is this good? I don't like decks that use brain
faries + twinkletoes and bounce fay is a lot of damage
its tier 2 deck i guess
not the best but its decent
otk roach still clears
I already play 3 different kinds of aggro decks
I'm trying the puppet list now, quite fun
I thought so, I don't see the selling point vs other existing aggros
actually tempo doesnt run lily, they run wildheart apparently 
But good enough maybe
thi deck actually destroys other aggro decks lol
I tried without lily there's too much value lost
it suffers vs portal
If I have titania I'd be more inclined to grind with the deck but cygames is a cruel mistress 
@wild gale link lagari this
He's refusing to see my link
let him cook dogshit
What a jackass
Fuck him abe
I wanna see him die to meta

Literally putting all dogshit cards in his deck
absolute shit
Something that gets annihilated at his rank
he doesnt play the game lol
what group?
he ahasnt played
so either ruby or topaz
he needs to cut bayle
and wood walkers
who is his SV coach
this deck is bad but not the worst really
should be a win tbh
see its fucking rune

bro mulligand away titania 

He fused his fairy fencer
how is it a 3/3 what is happening
Full trade?????
ruby players bro
its b rank
Jesus
I'm in b rank and I've seen way better plays
why are u in b rank

fucks the matta with u
odined 
well this deck loses to abyss cause he runs 0 roaches
Imagine if his stupid ass opponent pushed a bit of damage

That Odin would be lethal
But anyway he's dead
silence b rank
yea he woulda been dead 3 turns ago lol

ward craft on curve 
whale in b rank 
bro insists on rose queen
or just lucky with ticket ig
idk how i got 2 cerb tickets tbh
non ward haven
Storm haven
Pretty lethal actually
bro this matchup is free af lol
what is he doing though
he isnt playing a control deck
i called it, one game and he quit 
i get it kinda
like he said its his first card game
so i get that he dunno wtf hes doing but holy lol
he wants to invent decks without thinking about it 
just to keep losing in gold 
maybe lacari is worse than me in this game
He lost to a B3 storm heaven
You cant be worse

To be fair he is new to cards game
he doesnt play the game so ye
but ppl in chat are telling him shit and hes like no fuck u rose queen is the best

i love her and she loves me
were married
nahhh
He said league is fun
losing to storm is crazy man
He already lost it
i started to save, but my mind got the better of me and i said to myself, lets just get 1 more legendary, 1st pack and i needed the 3rd copy 
never punished 
But because he is new
Should be fun explore, especially at low rank
Instead > league

baldo scammed
yeah hes quick 2 give up
League is fun thinking about what u can experience in theory
Then you play 1 game

winning in league doesn't feel good
losing ruins your day

how much can i expect from this?
and did i miss a day?
why is lacari still want forest omE
he is back to SV?


he logged off 
are u runing?

Converted to puppets?

sword for when I actually wanna play the game
puppets for mindless grind
Well I need to use my orchis leader
And I just copied what you posted
So far so good but bricks like crazy sometimes
yeah had few times when they drained me
also orchis not showing up at all
but didnt stop me to get diamond

I'm even mantaining it
enjoying this until I will hit inevitable master reality check
is puppet good into rune?
stopped playing haven when i got diamond
too many runes
back to forest
5 swordcrafts were what dropped me from diamond too 
idk but rune been only class giving me problems

what do the border highlights mean? green and yellow
yellow is when enhance or secondary effect active too
Swordcraft highrolls are insanely hard for face dragon, too many shields
I need the 4 mana dragon in time
Love that puppet deck tho haven bitch emoted me because I dropped the goblin
Lilanthim is so funny man
yea prob cut goblins
and cute?
frfr
I lose to sword only when I dont draw orchis and sylvia at all
what do u do when they play zirconia/magus 
I always had enough puppets
also Zwei
for zirconia
this game
no orchis

and 1 sylvia
i feel like wasting puppets on them are just bad tho
why
I just clear everything with them
and keep orchis/odins to end games
thats all I do
u need some puppets for orchis no?
if they play amalia u arent pushing damage with her 
if you have no puppets after clearing zirconia/magus
I managed kept 2 puppets yeah to clear taunts
forest is the least common class i see
today i lost a match up vs ramp drag, i needed either the storm,deal 6, or the 10 mana spell from my coc deck, i got the 1 mana 13/13 , fml 
whats the face dragon list now
just draw 2 sylvias and eudies
they must be trolling me
cant draw any of them today

1 sylvia in 4 games
to make abyss aggro i need 4 legos 
I'm rotating between the 2 idk which one is better. Filene isn't necessary per se you can use swordsman
My winstreak to diamond was with that merman list
And I lost it using the left list, maybe it's clear which one is better
oh yes i member i dond have fan of oto 
when we getting first anime weeb collab
after how long happened on sv1

my friend showed me Harui suzumiya collab 
Give us gbf first please cygames... 
They always do these collabs when the meta has gone mad and interest goes down
I won't even be mad
It would be smart to ride uma popularity now tbh

LoR community had a mini breakdown when they added KDA cards
Because muh lore

SV peeps aren't as uptight
Why are steam ratings still so negative
Cause americans still angry about monetization
They still not used to gacha market era
is uma's gacha any better
they are both cygames
and lacari somehow spent 2k for a character
No
?????
lacari has crashout recently about spending money on uma
And pulling only trash
i mean yeah master duel is okay if u want only 1 or 2 deck
More than SV?
nah SV is more generous
I have all meta decks since release
No money spent
You are just wrong
Events literally shower you of gems
oh events
Should I try master duel then?
do the dailies take much time?
i quit during i forgot
No because
i already make decks
Game is not fun
is master duel more generous than duel links? i used to play duel links and i can tell u that it's very generous
imo
Not even close
dont
Pretending I have orchis and topdecked her for lethal
theres a reason why so many people prefer duel links
???? Who 
Bro what you talking about
Bro everyone is saying different shit 
idk
i saw some master duel guy
i forgot the name
and people comment on his video
saying duel links is easier
and more faster

EU people also cry on reddit they want the pricing regulated or some shit
I played duel links for thousands of hours
And master duel im at 1k h
It's true that the 990 gems are BS though
And i hate master duel

damn bro ur like lacari but with card games instead of league
either way i prefer SW
What do they want?
yea i tried duel links but couldnt get into it cause too much reading
They want the government to tell the company what to charge for digital luxury goods? 
I mean it's true that cygames is douchebag not denying that 
Modern ygo is learn your sheet combo
And deck power level is not letting your opponent play at all
He scoops before his turn even starts

Oh that sorta practice, ye it's predatory
yea seeling only 990 gems is scummy af
But you gotta pump up the in app purchases or you'll just be Netherlands and Belgium
They don't release the game there
i think i quit during the ball
i forgot that monster name
league got backlash from that kinda thing as well
Either way master duel is fun if you wait for events where they ban all meta cards and have special rules
Like now there are 2 events with only 5 star or lower monster and other limits the extra deck type
Aside that its cooked
across Singapore
the weebiest of SEA
Singapore is mainstream weeb, indo and PH are degens
SEA is probably the only place outside East Asia where you don't get bullied for being weebs

30 is insane
Nerf portal 
Imagine playing portal and having the audacity play out a match versus rune as if you had a chance to win 
He was on puppet too so no heals
read comments, fake
I saw it didnt get posted on ccgmaster, was sus about that
Roach is too much fun
I thought the 0 cost guy only got lower cost when a fairy died but now that played it he gets from anything that dies
Busted
?????
Or anything i pull back even
It's educational for forest gamers because you gotta do math fast

what happen
Found the only haven player on earth that didn't switch to ward and he got roached so he'll probably switch now

so i played a lot of forest and rune today and i made a hybrid portal deck that runs grimnir
crazy good board clear 
it's so fucking funny
the guy emoted me when i used victoria after using allouette
even rune died 
beat a portal too
goated hybrid
what is this?
promotion matches like in mobas
wouldnt it be easier for people in lower groups?
made the second one, pretty chill in comparison to rune
it became harder for me wtf
man what are the odds
i got another ticket but it's again a repeat for forest
i got 4 tickets so fat 2 orchis and 2 titanias

wow too bad i have 3
Bro dced immediately
i still havent faced a dragon or havencraft in 46 games and counting
anyone registered for the SVO tourney btw?
he anne'd he kuon'd he healed but in the end the ROACH claims us all 
nice timing on the screenshot
How do I do that?
casually 20 damage to the face 
https://www.start.gg/tournament/svo-kickoff-preliminary-2/details it's closed already unfortunately
play a forest deck i've been fighting haven and dragons all evening
i'm 100% convinced the matchmaking is class-rigged
Played 2 games of Rune today. Both otk wins. Feel dirty already.
Damn. Y'all gotta let me know this shit sooner. 
I also didn't know until like yesterday when every streamers saying they're practicing 
Also finally done
failed 2x and dropped but it's dond
"being good against" =/= impossible to lose
thats how abyss is really
u cant get past ag's
only ting u can do is pray u holding aragavy
that and going 2nd is totally balanced dead on turn 4
this game is so bad lol
u high rolled, they low rolled
this game im going first high chance im gonna lose
i for one am shocked
I still won though cos he couldnt handle another norman
back to sapphire, this deck kinda nice
i'm at like 10% wr vs sword tho

they werent running AG lowkey trolling
weren't running = didn't draw, yes it can happen even with +20 draws rune have over pleb classes
nah no kuon either
space invasion
rare yuwan sighting
send portal back to sv
based on what you have on baord im assuming you coined into beryl, and it lived till 4, they must have a bad hand
these 3 are wips but their only hope now that my vials are gone is if the devs give me one of those 100x packs from the chest 
the bots count for those?
what can i possibly do against aether man
can't even jeanne because they all have 8+ hp
Y'all still run into ward havens? Wild.
well its braindead
do you think ppl will stop running braindead decks just because its not as good as the rest
naaah
cheeze didnt play that often so he will still find ward havens
ward haven is a rich casual's deck
Not wrong, tbh
But I'm not kidding when I say I have not seen a ward haven in several days

ive seen
about 2-3 in the last couple days
its a neat deck but still very very shit win con
What game is that?
wuchang
Ah. I've heard mixed things about it but I'ma still pick it up at some point.
I haven't heard anything bad in terms of gameplay
i'm having a blast
Just typical UE5 shit
yo do we know if that team event in august is before or after the new set
Well, the new set is August 28th so

alright so prob not
28th is fucked up why so late lmao
its like they hate poe

I don't think these devs know wtf PoE is
everything releasing on same day
I'd be surprised
sagat august 5 patch also on 5th and then poe and new set 1 day apart lol
brother its a card game just do few matches at work
wat
I literally can't have my phone at work, and that applies to a lot of people as well
its not about that lmao
i worked at 1 place where the policy was
keep ur phone in ur locker
is it a soulslike or like faster action rpg
i didnt stay long tho place was shit
i play on break
i just hate when companies treat u like children
both
ye definitely scratches my nioh itch
its the other market style of combat if you played the newer kr/cn rpgs and liked them you will like this one
i actually haven't. is stellar blade kinda similar
(i havent played that either but i think there's trial)
mechanics can lean to that and then on wukong
you could also say waifu wolong
stellar blade and khazan are similar to me combat wise
i hate ue5 ruining games
wolong felt faster but i havent played wuchang end game yet
honestly if it's not very soulslike i might give it a try
stellar blade on pc was super smooth and they made it on unreal 4
I'm like the 1 out of 10 dentists that don't like elden ring
have u fought commander honglan yet?
kr/cn devs are cooking with these combats there nothing similar to fromsoft in any shape or form team ninja is the only thing that would come close from japan market
ye
that shit was nasty
alright you're selling it super hard, gotta wait until all the tech issues are resolved then i'mma buy
fought him in palace maid armor and the dmg you take is absurd lmao
one of the few games where armor isnt cosmetic
yea i did it that way too
but what do you do without
is what i was questioning
they give you a tooltip for clash but no way
its the first thing i pathed to as its my way of playing these games but not sure
clash is nice mechanic
ngl
there is more to this game that i still don't understand
Armor wasn't cosmetic in Wukong either. Technically not cosmetic in normal souls. It's just that at a certain pt, health matters more than damage mitigation unless you invest heavily in the latter
tbf armor still won't matter here if you can play perfectly as other games so they all kinda similar in that way
but its more of the wukong bonuses too
and tbf with these game mechanics feels like you can actually be the actual boss when you get them down
i tried magic which is usually op in every game
and that centipede echo skill
that was 
thing is these games usually ask you to actually use everything there never is one way to tunnel vision
you counter you dodge you cast spells and you combo
level design so far is actually good i didn't expect that
i only expected a boss rush lol
sometimes i even feel lost because theres 5 ways to go
i love china
+20 genshin credit

havent played wukong. huge souls sucker but wasnt really up for that
this has way more from the first 5 hours i would say
is wuchang's combat as slow/non reactive as elden ring?
maybe it's not the right word but you know the souls feel
anytime if you want to check a game combat always go to ongbal page so you can see to what extent the game goes
only action game review you need is this page https://youtu.be/uelQwPFidw4?si=d_KDatM2lz_0wCq9
You can get through fights just by dodging, but mixing in parries and clashes gives you a much bigger advantage. Also, like in Bloodborne, you can land a backstab with a charged heavy attack. Using dodgeable magic seems like a good option too.
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