#Shadowverse
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haven rly? is everyone a whale
im boutta bring forest but i will be fucked if i meet 2 havens
abe u about to play aggro abyss ?
Ward farming you
dw nobody plays haven anymore
damn koyori farming haven with sword
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only one haven in my weeekend lobby
such a balanced deck
shes crazy addicted, just check her past streams
like 3/4 shadowverse lmao
and now that artifact andy taunts me
because he can just play the 3 leader dmg artifact to kill me
i hope that guy gets hit by a car and dies
in GTA
i really question how to win against artifact if you dont run heal
not really but she's been farming noobs
maybe when she's done we can check the vod
is this bugged?
yes
but when I logged I got a ticket in the giftbox
maybe that was the fix
yeah she's been wrecking face with sword
lol koyori's been farming and when it comes to her promo her draw is dog, el clasico
bro why do i get so bad draws against aggro decks
i cant believe it
no magus
no amalia
no nothing
oh she finally lost
2 dragon players ?
@umbral seal whats the SB deck now?
Yea 2 dragon and 1 puppet
The dragon players kept casting the filene spell too lol
So annoying
I'm thinking about playing dragon ramp
Megalodon is crazy
fish
i play odin on his wilbert
has a second wilbert
how often do i had that now
yeah fuck haven
such a stupid fuckdeck
so what was her deck now
bro
i'm really that close to playing haven myself
i'm so pissed
when i play against aggro decks
wdym
i only play against abyss
and haven
i barely have rune
lets swap
i take rune anyday
that's 2x amalia on the right
thats a lotta low cost drops
holy
wait didnt she had the other one in
coachwoman?
oh maybe she changed
dunno
artifact again
cant play anything
(:
everything i play gets cleared
while he just pressure the board and my hp
dunno
Im the only abyss player here

Liking control abyss a
Lot
That 9 drop with the foxes is nasty
Beat that guy so hard he left
And my hand bricked in the last game

I'll show you my list but I don't think most people run archivist
up to sapphire
back down to ruby
bro i was never diamond on that account
once
that is crazy
u have 2 accounts ?
no
oh this sounded like u had 2 accounts
ranking up takes way longer than ranking down thats the problem
lol
and when i have good streaks like 6 or smth
Well, it's my deck he's playing. Could be skill issue but could also be running into bad match-ups/high rollers.
i mean u just need to win with decent winrate its not that difficult be diamond if u not playing complete garbage decks which u dont
I've definitely ping ponged between sapphire and diamond a lot last season
well i cant tell i dont know how he plays

me too
had a decent amount of winstreaks
so that wasnt really skill issue
I want a deck for the tourney 
In tournaments, I always play Sword but I'll show you my current sb & er list
dragon didnt get any ramp card but they got really good 5 and 7 drop so atleast that
i just dont know how to win against artifact and haven
well filene is also good card
abyss i can deal with with enough 2 drops
but artifact seems impossible
haven only on a good draw
Can't make any other deck, other than rune bro 
fennie is ok i dont think shes that great
Fennie is actually what allows Dragon to high roll into absurd shit
Like you basically need to kill the Dragon player right after she drops her
Because if you don't, you're probably going to see some d-climb level shit
@true abyss
Ye 1st time seeing an arcane archivist in a list 
ye but u can play around her if u create board big enough they cant just drop her
I think ER has a better match up vs rune, but struggles vs Haven, which one is better vs SC?
Also what do you think of this list 
Sort of. The 5 & 7 drop is what allows them the opportunity to drop Fennie safely. They're not impossible to clear but you may be underestimating how they allow dragon to play her safely
i think fennie decks should play griminir tbh because that allow them pretty much safely play fennie on most boards on super evo
Upgrade Spell Witch to S+. Otherwise, seems accurate
Versus Sword? Earth Rite, imo. But Spellboost is better overall
If i meta game and assume no haven enemies, ER would be better? 
no haven enemies
yeah good luck with that lil bro
my queues are 40% haven, 30% aggro abyss and rest split between sword, portal and rune
I wouldn't gamble on that lol
Aight I'll go SB
nah even without haven ER would still not be great
u lose to portals both versions roaches
sword should be decent match up for u but not sure
spellboost can also beat ER
and ER is also pretty bad vs ramp dragon
vs aggro abyss it should be solid
SB rune clears everything i do
just like artifact
feels very playable rn
when you actually try to think of your next move and they're like
20dmg william
20dmg storm blast
kuon
and he still lost
I'm thinking +1 er and exchange card over the exchange for a spell guy
Dirt is definitely bottom tier but it does have more good match ups than he's implying.
Because I feel I might brick normam 
Worth trying?
Cus that SB deck only has 5 ER sources
SC winning vs rune, who would have thought 
?
we had that before
its 50/50 for me the entire time
if i dont have the removal right when i need it i'm giga dead
wins by class
abyss over 400
rest not even 300

rune not even 200
sword and haven barely
lol its really not that good in current meta
if its hybrid maybe
tbh if ER gets board wipes next set its gonna be really good
thats currently only thing they missing i think
or storm
more storm would be also nice
there is actually 0 storm in ER right only odin
er got hard removals which is nice
4 mana bronze spell and lilathim
Fully animated my d-climbs 
I'm going through Dreizehn's story now and she just seems like a naive dumbass
i want more ranked chests events atleast its motivating to do ranked lol
like once u master and diamond u dont really want to grind ranked anymore
there is no much point
Only motivation right now is to get the guild to S++
ye
but thats easy
if your guild helping
well not in your case
u must do it alone
S++ might be harder with only 2 master players
we have 4
With more, it'd be easier
there is S++ now?
Yup.
I'm not that far from AA2
I stopped playing because I got bored towards end/finished BP of first set and also because guild got already S
Imma play more in these days
Im helping with my 21 points 

I got so bored with ranked already that I decided to do the story for once
I agree but cygames isn't known for making smart decisions

u need to wait for nba or skoo

Hold on
is it my impression or
on average
games got longer

ig because was easier at lower ranks when game came out
This is what happens when the meta is not dominated by aggro
Aggro abyss has a strong presence but that's about it
@primal isle Alright, made space. Guild ID: 299410508444
O still restricted from leaving previous 
were in the mid range control era right now
No worries. If I'm not on by the time you can send an application, just tag skoomah or mango
Although it's been mostly Skoomah. Why did I even make mango sub-leader? 

Don't even know if this is correct but I'ma try it.

Orcacraft 
well its S++ so
i expect a master tier too
cause thats how cygames does rankings
ygo very short
its just playing yourself with your combo
if you get interrupted gg
if they dont
gg for them

thats just whole community sentiment
it is a zero interactions game now
aside handtraps
i activate solitaire into omni negates ur go
fuck off lol
last time i played MD tho i just ran new exodia
1 card combo gg
max c
cause generic omni are still there
baron used to run the show in MD
max c does not matter anymore (in the sense that we got something similar)
both MD and TCG have new max c
for MD is a total of 5 (3 fuwa + 2 max c)
pov aggro sucks ass
only reason ppl think this deck is good cause its anti rune tbh
not really anymore ward doesnt at least
unless ur running soul cure
dragon heals way more than haven does now tbh
drag is also a super good mu vs ward too
cant make this shit up lol
🦆 🚬
POV: Fennie-Chan has hit the towers.
Liking this a bit better.
Funny how the ramp deck is more budget than most other decks right now.
carried by SEAMEN
same i got no vials left
i have like 16k i think
Yeah, I had to craft her because she was the only legendary I was missing
Finished this set's collection but I'ma keep opening packs for the Filene leader
Galan's cool but eh.
im missing 6
mostly just rune legos and feet but its fine
im saving for next set already got 10 packs ready
Lilianthim is good in a vacuum but yeah, I'd save your vials. Funny enough, I keep seeing hybrid runes on ladder more than anything else
Lost to a rune player who somehow fit Lilanthim in his d-climb deck
No idea how
Being weak early doesn't stop SB from being S+ according to myself as of day 1 and even Gamewith is saying it
Because they have the most healing in the game
Dragon has the 2nd most healing
i think the hybrid is in response to ppl running abyss aggro
cause it shits on rune
The match-up is closer than you're implying it is but you're correct that it's very favorable for aggro.
Unless you're running a hybrid list with edelweiss and/or perfumers
Really good turn 4 stabilizers
lol Y'all use broken way too freely. Edel is just a good card, balanced by the fact that her evo effect is random targeting.
random doesnt matter really tho
vs aggro it doesnt matter what it hits
It absolutely does, especially on a wide board
not vs abyss
its all 1-2 drops
worst case scenario u crash random target doesnt matter
Even then, it still matters because there are certain targets you want to get hit by the 4 damage rather than trade into Edelweiss. Like Beryl for example.
Stacking up even small advantages wherever possible is why y'all contribute things to luck rather than trying to min-max every turn
most of it is luck

thats card games in general
ok no wtf is this new card
Yurius 
when else have u seen haven kill rune on turn 5
if this isnt luck based then god help us
You're running a hybrid list with avian statues, and Rune cannot interact with amulets
Not sure if you're trolling at this point.
its still a lot of luck
tiger was out for turns prior
no stormy blast or board clear nothing
u cant say luck aint a factor
I'm not saying luck isn't a factor. I'm saying it's not "mostly luck", which is what you are saying
well i shouldnt be winning these games so i disagree lmao
If it's mostly luck, if we played a best of 5, we should trade wins evenly
But that's not going to happen. I'd win more often
Why do you think that is?
maybe or maybe ud brick
Bricks don't happen as much as you seem to be implying. I've also played vastly way more games than you
If bricks are happening often, that's a deckbuilding issue as well as a mulliganing issue
i.e. a skill issue
man... i didn't know u have to play a game on that stupid table
if luck isnt a major factor i wouldnt be winning most of my games
yeah lol
its same as last time u play at park once a day
missing 1 aint a big deal tho u fine
This is an odd way of saying "well, I'm bad so if I'm winning, it must be luck". Shit take, tbh. You're better than the players you're playing against, that's all. What mmr/rank are you at?
im ruby now cause ive been fucking around with aggro to much
but generally im sapphire and im only AA
i dont really grind rank well it depends on my mood
Link your aggro list, because I'm not sure I've seen one I really liked.
yeah 1 sec
im not sure i like it that much either ive just been screwing around
but i win like almost every match vs rune lol
another one where i took lilith out for charon to try it
but i dont think shes it right now
Charon seems more suited for midrange/control than aggro.
@umbral seal who do i cut if i want to play 3 colettes
Featherfall.
Also, crafting 3rd Jeanne should be a priority. Well, if you want to main this deck, I suppose.
but then what else do i cut
do i just remove featherfall when i get more legos?
i really like featherfall though
No, featherfall is good. But only at 2 copies.
Cutting 1 dose of holiness is what I would recommend. Not a bad card but not needed at 3. If you were running Rodeo, I'd also cut darkhaven grace down to 2, but that's only because you never want more than 2 darkhaven graces on the board.
Like you really only want 2 on the board max but you also want to ensure you can draw it.
alright, i'll try out 2x featherfall first
you dont really have a turn 4 in that deck
u wont be able to play avian statue on 4 thats asking for death most of the time
mukan charon
why you being a pussy
commit
well i guess ur not playing wards at all so ur kinda in a werid spot here
wat
my turn 4 is clicking amulets
cheeze imagine this
you play ronavero, super evo him
and u have the grimnir crest
permanent 2 aoe

i don't have grimbro
gl on that 1 lol
nah but that would be braaazy no?
that 2nd aggro list is pussy aggro 
if opponent cant clear its literally gg 
not really, it can still be damaged by random effects
yea only if they can't clear
divine guard my goat
not many decks run divine thunder now
i dont think portal can clear ronavero
well ur playing amulets so u need him
why am i limited to 40 cards wtf
but i like the gameplay
wardbert + birds is way better its not even close
each engage i do gives me a dopamine hit
the gameplay is the same
i would play wardbert except i only have 1x wilbert

and i have no aethers
its free
yea but i have to super evo the ronavero
super evo anything

they will die to random shit
yeah
only ronavero super evo makes sense
no lol
they will 100% die next turn
yes
probably
what deck or player is like yeah man just ignore that fat ass sevo on the board who cares
no u always clear lol
ur just over thinking this
but grimm is amazing
im confused
its ok to be confused
idk what to run now
run w/e u think is fun but were just saying amulet in general not very good anymore
and i don't have that many vials for legos
like what 
like being hit lol
ronavero would live vs any class that isnt rune tho
if you enjoy haven you prob gonna need to craft a lot of shit
your super evo generally won't survive next turn anyway
yes
but i have invested so much resources into it that i don't want it to be a sunk cost if i change class
grimnir best boi already gonna hit when you end your turn
i don't think storm haven is that bad, but ward haven is much better
u dont need to change class just stay haven and play wardbert
no wardbert is very expensive
hybrid is nice just expensive
storm haven doesnt even exist anymore honestly
u just run the 4 drop birds in ward now and that deck is irrelevant
only really good thing about amulet imo is just dose cause it can help with early aggressing
bruh u think dose is good?
dose is good tho
dose is like ur only option vs early aggro if ur not playing wards
and it heals too
better than beast princess
who
i just hate that i wont be able to play vessel and let it sit on the board anymore
cause itwill get odin'd
yeah prob but i only drop it when i need to really
nah tiger is worse, it ttrades for 4 as well but doesnt go through wards or heals for 1
not like ur tiger is gona live to hit face
it's different
one in 50 games type scenario
they need to clear your tiger, they don't need to clear dose
u wouldnt use dose in wardbert
Storm is crazy work but same as sv1
u have so many 3 drops tiger is just better there
well yea ward haven has a lot of 2 and 3 drops u wont use dose
10910 vials
and what about ur packs did u not open anything lol
and i will definitely not use it to make 3 legos
if u have aragavy and olivia or odins u can make abyss aggro easy enough
u can easily make abyss aggro if u wanted
and for mid/control ur only missing ginsex basically
ok let me read some cards
Okay, I don't know what the hell y'all have been chirping about, but @chilly viper, you're trying to play something besides Haven now?

were exploring options
because idk what to run for haven with only what i have
but he basically has everything to make abyss damn near if he felt like it
if this was me
i would craft the 3rd aragavy and 2 ginsex then u would be able to play abyss aggro and mid/control
assuming the golds are all in order mostly
Golds are low-key more prohibiting than legendaries are
yeah im basing this off they got em
But for once, I agree with Nevia. Based on what I see, Cheeze should go for midrange/aggro abyss.
Control if he's willing to make 3x ginsetsu (I agree with 2 but some players like running 3)
having only 1 deck would drive me nuts tbh
smh cheeze has a rodeo and didnt use her
I've told him more than once to include her
He has selective reading abilities
i mean rods ok but its basically divine thunder

rod could fill in since he only running 2 jeanne atm
Rodeo thins your deck by 3 cards. It's very good
rodeo is actually just so broken cause she puits down serene grace for you
But going full amuet haven is not good
yeah i ran 1 off of them in my old haven
its 7pp draw 5
Rodeo is a good card in a mediocre deck
cheeze actually got titania
i had to craft her
If this was SV1, this would be less problematic because he could just vial the shit he definitely doesn't want to play
i agree
i dont care about the 3 of as much now cause i play everyday and save up a lot of resources
but obv not every1 does
like i only spent 5 bucks for BP this set and have everything minus rune legos
btw where do you find "standard" decks that people already cooked
alright
i tried, she's just putting trash on my board
can u show us the golds u have for abyss
I dunno, gamewith? I don't netdeck, personally 
i think putting 3 cost or less amulets is the problem
rodeo should be able to put any amulets
she gives you free dose and draw
gamewith is where JP fellas post stuff yea
is this standard puppet? i kinda wanna craft another deck
and dont wanna play artifact
since i got 0 karla
im not sure how good the lloyd and victoria spell is 
when we say aggro abyss, does it just mean storm abyss
i aint crafting another odin 
no we mean like
what does aggro mean? i never understood it in sv context
aggro means u aim to kill by turn 6
6-7
ops wrong deck
WHAT
u can kill that early? wtf
you've never died on turn 6-7? 
oh i had to cope with thinkin my hand is bricked
i'm not playing bats man wtf
how often can u hit face
every game man
wait wiat
get exella value gg
does this mean, i will never survive turn 9+
yea if they dont die by turn 8 u prob lose
if aggro is going to turn 7-9 chacnes are ur losing
what if they luminous magus
hmm ok ok
why do u run this?
3/3 for 2
no
cause there is no better 2 drops basically
why is orthrus not good?
i think orthrus is better than beryl
You don't care about ur hp in aggro decks, beryl just has better stats
As long as u don't draw 3 beryls you'll be fine
Cause 3 beryls is not playable 
but orthrus gives shadows, isn't that good
As much as I dislike Beryl, there are some classes who can't deal with a turn 1 Beryl
Which is why she's played in aggro
orth is still an amazing card but shes not an aggro card
ok got it
Also, good aggro players know when to play around counter-lethal
is exella staple
I actually lost to an aggro player who traded because he was playing around albert in hand on turn 6 (which I did have)
yeah true, and u can easily play around it with the bats
Mandatory in aggro abyss.
yeah u need exella
Exella provides a lot of reach, especially on super evo turn with the 3 drop
shes almost like albert for abyss but u need bodies n the board to get max value
aggro abyss without excella is like forest with no roach
ok
i drop her if i have 2-3 down
is this 2 olivia and 3 odin
also for this card, do i use it to trade or let them trade into me
u trade with her to help clear board and maintain tempo
It has rush, she's for trading before super evo turn. On super evo turn, she will buff your storm units
shes very good
Vuella simultaneously provides board control and extra reach
i see
i only have 2 copies for aragavy, olivia, odin
what can i play if i don't want to craft 3rd copy
The only thing I'd change about that list is cutting 1 Beryl for 1 Aragavy
Otherwise, it's serviceable
Aragavy is too important on turn 5
Which is why you need 3
baltos isnt bad yeah
I like Balto if I can get him on curve but he's not required for the deck to work
i really like mukan if you only have 2 aragavy
i crafted 3rd aragavy
yea ik but its not that bad of a substitute
btw this deck has 36 cards
Oh. I didn't realize that.
In that case, you can add 2x balto and 2x Mukan or the 6 drop storm
Forgetting her name
oh that one
actually why is mukan good? isn't it just bane?
and the evo only summons 1 ghost
final deck 
ok let me try in practice mode
that one ghost was mvp 
cuz hes not really that good after the first one
if i had 8 shadows this guy was super dead to vuella tho
wow lol
how do u chip them so low
i need to watch some gameplay cus i don't know what to do most of the time
just play your cards 
Feels like I only ever go on a losing streak whenever I play aggro abyss
Doesn't work at my mmr

i cannot even use my new abyss deck on the practice mode
i can't beat Advanced Portalcraft

aggro abyss is pretty hard imo
just won against it a second ago tho
ready for the downfall
once in a lifetime moment where lymaga is useful 
https://www.twitch.tv/kaku3desu guys i found aggro abyss strimmer

cheeze just found fish in the sea
wait actually?
i had to scroll pretty far down
most of the abyss streamers are playing with ginsetsu
i havent seen midrange or control in the ladder once
more expensive so you probably wont play vs many of them especially in lower ranks
i met a decent amount of them recently
I have not seen many either
It's not just a low rank/mmr thing
Aggro is everywhere
i mean it kinda makes sense though since midrange/control abyss just gets out scaled by other control/combo decks
you win vs aggro thats about it
im not even sure u are favored vs sword lol
it counts your last 20 games
well did you promote to ruby in that last 20
if you promote/demote it resets the count
ah but you only promote on a win right?
no u can actually promote on a loss lol
if your last 20 is 70% winrate even if you lose the last game u promote
i think thats for diamond though
i dont remember what ur wr has to be for ruby to sapphire
70% is insane
its more like 65% i just round it up
u need to score 13-7 iirc
and to stay in that mmr u have to maintain that winrate lol
it is yeah
you need the blessings of five gods of luck to maintain diamond mmr at all times fr
that ramp dragon went down with 0 sevo while i still had 2 lmao
ignominious samurai x2 into his twilight dragon
that guy must be mad as hell
i rarely agree for rematch
was a good run gg
I used to send out requests but I don't anymore.
most of the time i get requests vs counter matchups 
fuck that shi
bro just wanted free win
i see
yeah gg
winstreak over
no <5 drop on a mirror is nasty
bad luck
@umbral seal is it a me issue or does sc really have problems against storm haven
i cant recall the last time i won that matchup
i have an easier time against ward

I don't even encounter storm haven so I wouldn't know. Based on last season, not really.
i used to have problems against sc though but now with the new cards, i have every answer to them now
especially agnes
She's under the blanket with me
i'm against ward again turn 14
and i cant win
because i cant get gildaria
16 cards left
that will be my 4th loss in a row
great

my man
godforsaken game
man mental was so high up
now i wanna throw the monitor again
that has to be scripted
theres no way i'm going on a 10 winstreak
and then lose every game
telling you its scripted
now zirconia and i'm basically dead
yea
obvs play
watch him albert evo now
I dropped to topaz cos I was trying forest
gonna face drag back to sapph (and maybe diamond)
I could've tried in unranked where's the fun in thatt hough
Which forest list did you try 
I'm having decent success with forest
Rune is actually a hard matchup now because they have normans
But I put in lymaga for that
norman that cunt
very fair that i go first every sword mirror
that fucking hoedipshit of a game
and he had the perfect curve
full board into double zirconia
into albert sevo
such a joke
every fucking match i have to go first
bro i'm shouting through my whole apartment
if that continues
i can concede that
I wouldn't.
I feel either I got scammed or I played it very wrong
Ehh I don't like baldy
I'm running a completely diff list I guess
Puppet portals are very tough I got outvalued every turn
This one is a more tempo based with aria as main wincon
Share it with the class, I don't think I vibe with this list too
I can't play forest without staff
Forest with no staff is kinda trolling
I was thinking to try forest because I almost never see haven and the deck I play is autoloss vs her anyways so no difference there
i agree fuck norman
So forest should be strictly better logically. I guess
i dont care about staff but i run aggro
i have one bug alert cause i dont wanna craft a third garden allure

This makes more sense danke, that deck before I got outvalued so hard and had no draw
Maybe I needed to play it really differently
Yeah 
how is it
Kunc was right pog
that deck farms abyss and puppets
bearguy poggers
I usually am, lol
thats probably because all those braindead ward haven player autopilot
tho
he played 3 salefa in a row
2 evo 1 sevo
at 20 hp
haven has limited gas
if you have 3x garden's allure i would run 3 and cut bug alert
for a not threatening board
less than sword
garden allure basically unbricks your hand for freee
each aether is -4 cards
and aether requires a critical mass of 3 mana or lower followers
You can fuse however many cards you want lol
It's literally free discards
ever
We've been telling you it accounts for your overall winrate
You can fuse your whole hand with just one garden allure
oh nice so no more burning cards
So if your hand is 3 staffs you can use garden allure to discard 2 staff
with glade or some shit
Which was dead in your hand
how different does it play from before? less OTK ish? or almost the same
Sort of the same but aria is now playable














