#Shadowverse
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that was griefed lmao
from me
sevo was wasted af
autopilot
ye that felt weird af. all i had on hand the entire time was ginsetsu
Bad hand?
no medusa, no odin, 1 cerb
no charon
ye pretty weird draw, but ive missplayed hard on cerb too
Are you running soiree in that deck? Seems to be a popular choice among Abyss players right now
It be like that sometimes

That's a very low amount of 2 drops.
thats the usual deck i run

cerb x2, ginestsu x3
was expecting ward so i mulligan'd for aragavy tho
thats usually my hard mulligan when i know evo turn is gonna be rough
I don't even have ward haven built, lol.
Cheeze was asking for Storm Haven advice so that's what I have.
Guess the class I play 
@true abyss Up for a game?
Just logged off after completing dailies 

onion is such a dumb card
It's funny, people were asking for Kagemitsu to have rush on revival, and he respawns every two turns
The onion is a silver card, and spawns an endless stream of 1/1's that apply spellboost on hit
Cygames' balance
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yea
Well, Ruby is where most of the playerbase is at. It's not a bad mmr to be at.
As elitist as I can be sometimes.
friend said i'm dumb for raging over haven, when abysscraft is a braindead throw on curve class
funny enough
ladder abyss is mostly aggro
and you dont throw curve on control at all
lol
This has been my experience as well.
Starting to remind me of early SV1
Wardcraft is more braindead than even aggro abyss
Aggro Blood everywhere
I don't think any midrange/control deck is easier than an aggro deck.
Ward Haven is basically a midrange deck.
@chilly viper You able to stream?
not now
Maybe, I'm just salty because my ER loses to wardcraft 
Nah, Earth Rite doesn't lose to everything but Ward Haven is a bad match-up unless you can Odin Wilbert
my last game for now, gotta go get food
Earth Rite can beat aggro pretty handily just due to an insane amount of healing
maybe i can stream your morning
i mean im lazy and even im close to master
No shit, most people are casuals and AA takes a long time for people with a day job
I expected it to be lower, personally
even the regular shit like win 20 games with haven lol
Also doesn't help that ranked doesn't have any meaningful reward, it's just number go up 
thats how you lose a complete dominant game
because for some reason
you're never the one that has lethal on his hand
Having success using ward haven with storm amulet package
yeah
mix in the 4 drop birdge tiger chalice and serene
dark haven is optional if u want it or not
your class farms abyss
the only thing you do is throwing curve
and watch the shiny wards
people said this game got nerfs when's the nerf that deletes rune from the game
So, poeple who said this did not play the first game. Do you want to know what actually happened?
People bitched for months about X card needing nerfs. Cygames does nothing.
People leave, and only then, after months of complaining, Cygames will quietly make balance changes to get people to come back (they won't)
And they won't admit they were wrong about delaying balance changes either
i mean every game i play versus rune ends the same we go to turn 10 and they do satan + the win the game card
Rune is OP but not unbeatable. I wouldn't be diamond right now if it was
you make it to turn 10 against SB rune?
Because the deck has a very strong presence on ladder
Kind of have to force the rune player to d-climb early or play multiple Kuons so they just don't combo them for an otk.
(can still get otk'd with 3 demonic calls, though)
Norman being in spellboost makes it very hard to pressure Rune right now, though
right now i dont think theres any card that genuinely needs nerfs
Stubborn devs

I generally agree but cygames needs to stop the spellboost favoritism
It's not subtle.
The japenis never change
Cygames feel out of date
Holy.
well died to roach
nice
Need Norman against Roach. Just spam the barrier golems.
Juno.
still feels pretty awful to play against roach
Lili is pretty fun when she works
the entire game they do nothing but stall and then otk
because it doesnt matter whats on the field as long as they can cleave it down with bayle etc
sounds like rune lol
such a boring playstyle
Well, she's slow but definitely necessary. The only thing missing right now is a way to burn out the opponent faster, early game
thats why i play aggro if im playing forest and it got better now too
banger
is this here only for 9 days?
what
or is it just for the phsyical card they are giving away
think thats just for the bonus not the set ofc
ok i was like i want the stuff from the bundle but i cant drop 200 hundo all at once rn
if u buying that make sure u get the special pack
wit the 3 lego tickets and junk from web shop
not sure about that one
i didnt bought it
because its like 45โฌ for 2k paid crystals
while i pay 60โฌ for 5000
yeah but ur getting 3 tickets and 3500 vial on top
ye but i'm getting vials anyway when i dupe stuff out of the 3 10 pulls i get more when buying raw crystals
tho
ye yen price

just gotta be smart
Funny, I'm bullying portal players with Sword yet again
so is sword aggro basically dead btw
feels like they didnt really get any support this set seemed to be mostly geared towards midrange
bro ramp only heals too
Any aggro abyss deck
neptune is very good
i swear i'm gonna sell my acc for 200 bucks and be done with this game
That i can copy??
i just cant
This shit is strong man
uhh sure 1 sec

thats mostly what i use
I saw a "sword aggro"
Nope, but you need 3x Odin.
But its expensive now
Not dead, but nowhere near as popular as midrange
That may change later on in the season
But it's the current situation now
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"Aggro"
I was telling fellas literally yesterday that aggro abyss is strong but now, since a foreign fella says it, it's believable
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well
personally its boring af tho
Including quickbladers doesn't make the deck aggro, not sorry. 
I mean you need aggro to be viable to keep control in check
thats like the
air quotes
its the closest thing ive seen to aggro sword
rune aint even control
that is playable
its like a time bomb
and u better win by turn 10 lol
You mean to keep combo in check. Control beats aggro if the control player is not dead by turn 6.
The problem right now is that D-climb is a combo deck that has more healing than an actual control deck (ramp dragon)
in general
rune doesnt
unless they are healing super hard early
but aoe is so prevalent rn
Aggro abyss has been beating my midrange sword quite a bit as well
Not all the time but it's 50/50
how is yurius btw
The deck has a chance against basically everything
Bad card. I tried him.
damn
the only problem vs sword is magus and amalia
theres like nothing new other htan the two golds then
which are like
i guess slight upgrades
magus is ok-ish if u have aragavy but amalia its gg u gotta win b4 turn 8
i guess the rally one is good
I'll show you the list that got me back to diamond today
I don't use that many new cards
But Gildaria is my queen
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People don't win
shes apollo on steroids
even dropping her early is good to board clear
Nah, people were too focused on the rally part of Gildaria when it's perfectly fine to evo her manually.
She's 3x in basically every Sword list I've seen, for good reason
I want to like Yurius but it's too hard to put him down safely. In this current meta, you need to focus on bursting the opponent down or board control.
prim is also some bullshit
Grimnir & Gildaria
Is also insane synergy
There's basically no board you can't clear if the game gets late enough
Just had it happen against artifact portal
control is a myth
It's nowhere near as popular on ladder as aggro because fellas can't afford it
I'm not sure if it's stronger than aggro abyss but it's a good deck.
its fun for sure
Running into much more portals now
im excited to see how the meta settles
gross
Convert to animated before liquifying
If I'm converting to animated, it's for cards I really like
ye i have 5 globes on me atm
what are your matchup hard mulligans for sword pip
maybe i'll try it out for a bit
control abyss worked yesterday but i'm getting frustrated today
i really need to push master during my 2 week vacation
should be more than doable
if i dont keep losing
like that
average sword vs dragon om
yeah I use all my globe to convert + liquify
except satan ofc, animated satan is swag
big value 10 animated with 1 card
Wait, you're asking me what do I mull for?
Just 2's & 3's. I usually keep zironia no matter what because it's the only 4 drop in the deck. Sometimes I'll keep Magus in hand if I already have a turn 2 play.
gotcha
i got my face pushed in by a forest deck playing baldy earlier today btw
maybe it's not a meme anymore

2 zirconias on curve the GOAT
is this the wonderland situation?
that was when i quit
Correct
They would rather make shadowverse 3
I was a bit hardcore back then. I actually got double GM during WD
i was actually sad, wonderland theme was an instant hit (esp. for JP peeps) and they botched it
ye the card arts were pretty cool
i was an ass then i played face drag and i named myself control only 
rare ian sighting pog
Actually, I lied. It was Chronogenesis, which was after WD
Can't remember what I played during WD
you also dont need odin for lethal but odin is more swag for sure
Banishing is swag max
i mean they're both blonde guys, different outfit 
Found another old deck I used to play. Control Sword.
granblue expansion soon please 
Grimnir was very different back then.
although I know they're waiting for revenue to be down before releasing it I know it
gimmie fate collab
damn the OG deckbuilding website, this brings me back as galan would say
i want Jalter leader
I just realized Jeno got a massive upgrade from the 1st game
smash
odin won the game again
whats with jp games and making jalters
i guess holy woman > corrupted is a theme
Gildaria would clear this easily 
ik but gbf and fgo both developed jalter independently
but anyways its a rhetorical question
ye pretty much what youve said already
brooo wtf is that aether card
welcome to havencraft
lol
in a sense that he's warping gameplay around him, yeah i kinda understand ig
Nah, Sword was legit bottom tier before he released in SV1
although the new set seems to make 'saving super evo for 9 mana albert' not as much of a thing anymore
Ideally, I always try to do this but sometimes you have to adapt to the situation
my wincon is a bird
filene is good and all but is whatever, titania is cuhraaaazy
i kinda wished i spend lots in this banner instead of the first one but it is what it is
im waiting for gbf leaders personally but if it's like the first game i'd be long gone 
the fact that i have to evo for anne and grea which does nothing for my wincon
but just playing her does alot to runes wincon
is still pissing me off
i was about to ask is this rune bitching, but no you're bitching about rune, please continue speaking the truth king
i'm about to get otk'd arent I

17 aoe william
balanced too
passive aoe card
guess we spam amalia
WALL OF CHINA
he conceded lmao
i'm pissing myself laughing rn
I fucking hate artifact so goddamn much
By turn 7 he managed to heal fucking 9 health back
Fair and balanced gameplay
The only other deck that can beat artifact in bullshit is rune
Summoning free 3/5 on board that heals infinitely
All cygames needs to do is to nerf all 5 cost artifact effects to 2
9 is rookie numbers, rune can heal 20 by turn 7 
And still clear anyways because they have a free 1/1 onion each turn
nice got dirt lego girl from apology pack
Without amalia there I wouldve died
2 times
Is it an apology pack or just what we were supposed to get, cus i still can't redeem the last pack
Positive match up doesn't mean you will easily win every time, it mean you win more than you lose if you keep playing vs them 
Yeah it's bugged so they give us 1 in advance and we can claim later
Fr I hate facing SC 
this is lilanthim
Lili also has ward
damn u are really new only 42 wins
That just means they dont know how the game works
i have 680 wins 
can we see how many matches we played ?
and how many we win ?
well we know how many wins
but matches in total
Midrange SC S pog
where is dragon
i mean i agree with this tier list
sc ?
Swprdcraft
oh sword
Link the site bro

I wana see the rune list
i keeping diamond with dragon so far cant be that bad lol
dragon is fine
they got hella good shit this set
ward haven bottom 1
ward is A rank
i dont make the rules
I literally can't make any deck in that list, except rune 
ye, weird list
Gamewith is a meme id not use their list
i mean
wardhaven is just
balanced portal
instead of summoning infinite copies of artifacts
it actually pulls the copies from your deck
so if you draw bad and aether is bottom deck it pulls nothing
so you are actually subject to the draw RNG unlike portal
who just crafts any arti they want
got my 10k steps in
back to sv
somehow i still dont get the muscle-up technique down
transition part is scuffed
even if i dont win
amelia into gildaria is so fucking gigabased
nvm i won
holy what an awesome match that was
aggro abyss with god draw
love to see it
aggro abyss is so dumb
holy shit
how are your braincells not decaying playing that shit
At least aggro abyss is reasonable
Fighting artifact is like a brickwall
Damn I just won a 30 mins rune mirror
I'm going back to face
Takes too much time lmao
Epic duel of luck though ngl
That and people are expecting ramp
those are my games btw
tell me how to win that
cuz i for sure dont know
cleared the board
but at what cost
Haven is a lost cause for aggro but somehow when I play rune I never face them only agrobyss and mirror

Yeah I noticed they have a new version going
With Colette and shit
Better early game and contesting board
I got wrecked like 3 times by them earlier today
I also got wrecked by baldy forest
I'm being experimented on
meanwhile Abyss got dogshit legos but somehow survive this cus aggro

Odin and Olivia
Charon is p good
i didnt see much Charon
Norman is better tho
he's always good
People just didn't play abyss
Honestly agrobyss is so popular because people can't stand rune bullshit
And I don't blame them
yep
My roommate who I baited to play switched to agrobyss real fast when I let him know
honestly if u cant stabilize with Rune its basically joever against abyss
I also lowered my face drag curve abit and reintroduced the 3 mana storm chicks
maybe
lmaoo
I'd say that's the only chance
can these motherfuckers die irl
But yeah 2nd Wilbert is gg
They die when they meet runes at least
And they die slow and painful too
Because of rune bullshit
hes prolly thinking he outskilled me hard
Check out spicies he cooks a lot of sword decks
I really wanna run odin 
idk who I should cut tho
When you awake yes
list 
nvm i'm dead

rune
and he doesnt know that he can double ER if he clicks b4 putting the new one on the board
that tells you everything
Look at shadowverse wins, a lot of ERs in master diamond
The only ER I see is emergency room if I see too many runes, I'm gonna empty all my innards barfing
But seriously I think it's viable, but totally different matchups vs spellboost
Anyone has a list of spellboost with Odin btw? That caught me offguard
i have to use every sevo for rune
while he doesnt need any
thats fun
again
doesnt know how his deck works
still wins

no gildaria when i need her the most
against that shitter
why do you always get bad draws against shitter that dont know how their deck works
but good draws against good player
makes no sense
Rune is subject to bad draws like everyone else. But you draw 10, rune draws 20 so....
and he clears every board with william
with 22 aoe dmg
or every sevo of mine
with 20 stormy blast
I didnt notice the weekend rewards nerf

never a joy
was actually a good incentive to tryhard
hope its temp
cause now they are pointless
ur daily quest is = to a 3 win in tourney

that onion shit is broken lmao
i legit cant do anything against forest with my draw
on SC
like what
he just keeps hitting face and i cant get a board
alright i played rune vs puppet portal
what is the puppet guy supposed to do lmao
i didnt do anything and he just lost
yeah i got wrecked by that earlier
ye
dead turn 5
elf without roach sounds actually fun tho
but i dont have titania
so its either whale for arisa leader
or use leader mod like in sv1
LOOOL
i think it starts next week
(and anyway its nerfed)
im awake might as well

ima test mid range abyss
i expect there to be only aggro abyss and rune
rip its sword
lmao
dont think abyss has any chance in hell vs current sword
damn my rune chooses a good time to brick

yeah double orchis will beat rune regardless
shoulda ran aggro instead
''control'' abyss is some fake shit
3 swords ina row lol
this si the biggest horse shit right here lowkey
i just destroy it with 4 mana deal 3 3/3
u dont really have that turn 2 and 3 do ya ya rat bastard

went 1-2 i'll just run aggro next time lol
its over punk
these rewards for 3 wins are joke
odin is the best card fr
yeah rewards ass
u get about the same from dailies lol
prob wont stay
Yeah hope jp players bitch enough
only benefit i can give
is they said they were testing
surely u cant do 9 right
ah neptune gg
odin wins again
honestly ramp dragon is bad tournament deck
yeah id say so
yep
id rather rune sword abyss or haven
run lizards apollos
ramp is fine vs aggro just build some early game
but the JP list for dragon is super greedy
lizard is good ya
heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal,
honestly i dont even need to run odin in this deck
there isnt really much targets for it
and im not storm deck
divine thunder should be better
haven is already good match up doesnt matter if i banish wilbert
seamen and neptune are honestly the best things dragon got
artifact is bullshit
how can he summon 3 3 aoe dmg artifacts
without any effort at all
fucking waste of air
yes
they exactly needed stuff like that healing while creating board
and just good 5 drop
on evo
was really needed
zzz
dragon was exactly missing these 2 5 drop and 7 drop and they got good cards on both curves
like before this set there was no good 5 and 7
basically
well olivia
but olivia isnt real 7 drop
burnite also not really
if they have little board or no board burnite is bad play
reasons im going to kms # 1
xdd
still won but fucking dumb ass class lol
Doesn't he heal for 1? C
shes not evolved
not bad for 3 packs
Oh ye
man if eudie was fanfare crest she would be so op
shes already pretty good u can put her in any portal deck
yep
next expansion gildaria leader ticket pls
3 mana 3/3 draw card

that by itself is good
what u mean by that
look carefully
oh
lmao
are those japanese or chinese letters
that has to be westerner guild i doubt japanese guys would name guild forsen 
I got one win
Against face dragon
Eude
Aggro abyss does the same thing as sword except better
I wanna cry

How do you even block this shit dude
just trade with them keep the board down
if they dont have a strong early start tis gg off the bat
by turn 6-7 only thing u gotta really worry about is if ur in odin or exella range
and only match up its really bad is like what ward haven
aggro dragon not as good as abyss
bro i'm watching the last tourney match
and i dont see dragon doing much to sword rn
well depends
artifact always takes forever
agro dragon can beat abyss actually
to fuse that gundam
@lone agate @warped granite Time zones suck. I'm awake now
and play zirconia after
apollo
they cant handle it
wait more expansions
no rush
well now i'd rather have gildaria
even tho mars is one of my fav. cards
and gbf char
wait whats happening after 8 days
8 days remaining
nothing
thats like 80 USD or something right
wait
yea
2
oh
i lost to artifact
because its a very high skillceiling deck
after i said puppet couldnt do anything vs rune i got my shit pushed in by "aggro" puppets
karma is real

but tbh no point in pulling anymore
honestly there is very little chance i get leader i want from this set
because i dont care for titania and aether leader
but old set
i still want 2 leaders
so there its 50/50
well actually its less
u can get fully animated cards
oh i guess i cant get fully animted fennie
in new set
fully animated ginsetsu would be also pog
i think i always try to reach lucky chest on every set
even if it take long time
@warped granite @lone agate I'll preface this by saying a lot of different sword lists work in Master Diamond (as you've seen online already). Only thing I don't agree with is including Yurius. Most overhyped card pre-patch.
thanks for including qr code lul
Yeah, I have a lot of 2 of's ๐
i'm running your deck atm. pretty good winrate, but ive switched kage to x1 rose
i didnt had a lot of use for kage personally
That's fine. Rose is a good card but I prefer Kage because his value over time does help in some match ups
yea i can see that
had alot of fun with that
amelia into rally gildaria
that is toxic as hell
I dropped yurious too
It is a easy win, but u need such specific situation to make him work

can i play this tourny tomorrow?
Yes
aight ty
ill skip today then
why isnt she run in aggro sword ? not enough space ?
Bad card imo. The only 1 drop Aggro Sword needs is quickblader. Also, from the lists I've seen, aggro sword ain't even real right now. The curve is too high
It's basically midrange
tbh i think roaches forest would be good into these aggro abysses
Yeah I hoped this set would have introduced more aggro deck
But I like both
*roacheless

Aggro sword used to run centaur
But centaur is so bad now with the crazy curves the meta decks are pulling off
Wtf
Centaur is bad?
i knew first when i saw exella that aggro abyss gonna be thing
Centaur should be replaced with Odin if you have it
Oh yeah that for sure
new dark general is even better than old one
Odin is a very safe craft. Will be relevant until he rotates out
Also the earth sigil professor is holy broken
I managed to squeeze 2 sagelight out of rune
Let him clog up space with onion
Confident that there was no way he could prevent my Albert lethal
Professor comes in heals him back to full
bro i clear wilbert
i clear jeanne
i clear aether
how to win
look at his deck cards
and again jeanne
You let out some tears and continue topdecking or concede
NAD JEANNE AGAIN AHAHAHAHA
OKAY BRO
HE CONCEDED HAHAHA
BECAUSE HE WAS ON HIS LAST CARD
Hot damn

what a waste of time that was
I almost beat portal in a long term showdown too
But I forgor bane takes effect against barrier
Haven when they draw wardbert

Haven without wardbert 
here we go
Looks fair and balanced to me
I think the only classes that can deal with that wall is haven or abyss

Maybe orchis?
Orchis needs a super evolve to deal with 
I feel like Albert is so cucked rn
5 mana 3 damage storm
Dragon beats that with otohime
i mostly use albert as a 9 drop clear board













