#Shadowverse
1 messages · Page 30 of 1
every turn 5 its anne and grea
its so boring predictable
and they have it every game too
Every class fucking sucks and is OP except for the one I'm playing
I threw one game in the weekend match though
nah abyss isnt
If I kept my doggy and centaured instead I would have won
dragon isnt
Fuck me
Dogshit loser mindset
When other people play forestcraft they don't brick
I somehow brick 5 games
1984
Portal is fucking bullshit with aloulette spam
If they have 2 aloulettes you're pretty much shit out of luck unless they don't draw Sylvia or orchis
puppet is fucked too
i need coaching guys
Draw better and hope your opponent bricks
i'd play forest too but i'm too 2head for that

Forest sucks because if you brick you brick
yea
I gave up because my RNG was too bad
ive tried it a few times and didnt get any draw engine
how
Apparently the destroy all followers thing doesn't kill ambushed followers
it does
It does
Is it super evolved?
it's just that the ambushed is super evo
Yes
That's bs , i didn't know that super evos are saved
super evolved units are invncible during your turn
Yeah super evolve are 1000% immune on their own turn

Which is how abyss abuses it
You can use all kill follower cards on super Evo
So they act as better runecraft spells
My opponent quit
Free win

I feel like quitting too
that's how i every win any tournament match btw
opponent dc
i have never gotten a real win before
Why the fuck do they keep us around after we finish the 4 matched
4 win is heavily weighted
u have to be kidding me i'm against portal again
Yeah
If it's not 4 wins it's some dogshit rewards

Thanks cygames
I'm vs a new player pog
i'm vs a orchis avatar player
probably a whale
welp 2 orchis back to back
sorry for breathing
Last match vs p2w rune gg
GREA! DOKOMADEMO
i'm against runecraft too
I have my set up, i win in 3 turns 10 mana d climb and 10 coc
same
holy shit i'm actually gonna get 0 wins this tournament
bro what
wtf bro portal portal rune rune
what is this matchup
what is that backhanded compliment lmao
2 is like 50% wr
I'm just showing that haven needs a nerf
u better than me

which is funny i went with same deck 5-0
in GP
u survived with 1 hp forest last game
that game was crazy
how did he not clear your medusa wtf
+2 haven gold i needed 
playing the games of their lives
@chilly viper that haven guy who won was using the ambush, evo kill anything unit 
ok i need to copy that
I thought it was a shitty card, apparently not
I hardly lose to portal
well i picked aggro dragon for the tourney
no cards
left
and he had no more roaches
to finish me off
must be tilting to see enemy 1 off
just click on your leader
only tards emote
but u can only do 3 per turn
it's looking like i'm 0-4 this tourney
i sometimes emoting too when i play like ramp dragon and shit on someone that play tier 0 deck but its lame to do i agree 
How often do these lobbies happen
0-4 damn thats rough
i was 1-3 this tournamey
my GP wins 
bro i just concede
this portal players needs a calculator every turn to fuse
and it takes ages
not playing that out
wow
abyss is good
abyss only really terrible match up is forest and they can still win that
its not like u cant win it
i kinda farming portal with abyss
i have really good winrate vs portal
https://streamable.com/jnpyou anybody wanna coach me
i genuinely have no idea how to play against this
did i misplay anywhere
i didn't even get to play
That first unholy vessel was a bad one
You could have probably saved it
Also you didnt need to jeanne that board
Since the mechs died next turn
If you had a vessel on the orchis turn you could have maybe come back
But i doubt it
at this point every class have one
portal even 2
oh abyss aswell now 2
cerberus and ginsetsu
hmm there are no more free attempts
Thinking portal is broken is week 1 shit
that shit is still broken
one of the best haven cards already
5 cost medusa basically with storm
not bad
interestin
it says
idc what it says think of the board lol
other than the one on the otherside of it
like lets say u have dark haven down thats facing X and u put her in Y
so if there is a mob on the other side when you drop it wont kill it
so you wanna drop it on an empty side or in front of an amulet
theres 1 mob on the field but ur not facing it
the random effect should kill it
either way it'l still be good
It's really not. Then again, I main sword.
The only deck I have an issue with is Forest because playing around their lethal potential is very tricky and their early game pressure is too good for how high that lethal potential is.
Everything else is a skill issue. Well, Rune high rolls are a thing but Rune high rolling & Forest high rolling are not in the same dimension.
Easy to tell where someone's skill level is based on what they complain about.
i wouldnt say portal is broken but its top tier bullshit
oh wow
she might be super good man
hella reanimates
we'll have to see
gives all reani cards ward too
card on evo gives piece or gundam cannot be destroyed by card effects
yeah idk if we can fit this our evo cards in base set are alrady so broken
the problem with portal is it has to much value for free
copies of everything never needing to commit
evo makes it so the copies you summon
with 5 mana summon 2 spell
dont die eot
"yeah man idk if we can fit a 2 mana card that makes the spell clones perma"
right now only bone mancer really a target
but we get the storm too maybe other stuff
real problem is gonna be 1 drop things we only have 1
no
reanimate is just bad
that point in the game
because you have token mechanics
u aint sevo this
reanimate (1) might as well say summon a bat
we'll have to see if we get more support
if it could do sekletons thatd be fine but nah
this card can be good but we gotta wait and see basically
the rest of the cards
ginsex is good at least so im cool with that
I never see abyss playing one drop just because cerb is that good

1/2 with ward
the old wraith or even just goblin
So they need multiple board clears to takeout bonemancer
ngl im still most uhh interested in wardbert
even if its mid
that shit is gonna be annoying
the other haven lego is way better but idk it felt like a swordcraft card
i guess?
i mean sword has magus and amali but they just spawn dudes dont pull from deck
well it just depends
wardbert falls on an odd turn
oh nvm the other bitch right
shes 7 yeah like shes what u play when nothing is going on
cause its not like u drop her to clear the board
depends on what the 3 drops you play on your deck
Ward Haven is looking to be S tier at minimum. Feel free to reference this comment in a week when I'm right as usual.
Not going to trust the instincts of a person who was downplaying Phildau in week 1 when I was claiming he's one of the strongest 2 drops in the game
And everyone at this point has finally come to that realization
I have not been an abyss downplayer, so I don't think they'll be weak in the expansion
But it's not going to be S tier, imo.
Anne and grea 
yes?
Ward haven is going to make roach shit their pants
how'd you know
at least i can admit when im wrong 🤷♂️ i agree phildau will probably see even more play when next set drops and he's a probably the best neutral unit now
ward haven was boring af in sv1
but ward haven is not an S tier so far
when they play 3 Anna & Grea consecutively and it works

i think ward haven will be ok but they still lack like a big dick slam it on the table card
like cerb coc kuon etc
Lapis needs to be there ig
no u wont see lapis next set lol
or amulets for that matter
Ah right Odin is out
i might try running 2 odins
Odin in roachcraft 
im def making wardbert next week
Odin is a must include in aggro sword
He already sees a lot of play right now. This will continue to be the case until legends rise rotates out.
well that new sword card is a fat cock so we need to run more direct removal in general
im thinking of working in divine thunder
no lol centaur has 7 attack
nah centaur is a must
idk if you even wanna run odin
bro can smack u for 10 outa no where
You can remove wardbert
That's pretty significant
The card is better than centaur but both will see play in aggro sword
He drops 2/4s on board
Odin itself will see play in many aggro decks
u can stop his last words yes
Just clearing his 2/4s is a giant pain in the ass for aggro sword
yeah odin is gonna be good having storm in this version is big
- free 4 damage
16 rounds against puppet portal
id be in therapy
i hope puppet gets something to replace shitty liam
back to dirt
i havent seen the 2nd rune lego yet
do the orcas do anything or just normal tokens
wait you get 2 orcas with fanfare and 2 more if you sevo?
man
gib dirt rune a finisher
fucking cygames
nobody wants to play that boring spellboost shitdeck
rose queen forest
no amataz
no rose queen
do i just have to quit the game
because nothing i play works
i just draw shit every game
doesnt matter what i play tho
if i dont mulligan for my win con
i dont get it
its been like that the past 2 days
its insane
is it that u dont have enough cards or whats ur situation
got roached

im looking forward to the new update
so those roach mofos can kill themselves
group B ?
i guess so
#1383658402005123112 message
for going 4-1 i got 400g and 1 pack
Guess i should play
That crest is busted
aggro aria going in
Too bad i don't play forest shit
sv1 meta coming back
Fuck forest
if dragon and haven became good next patch i think roach will go down a tier or two
cause now roach really only has like 1 bad matchup
foot girl already fucks up roach
bruh its still rng that doesnt mean its cya
what u mean
and forest is already good vs abyss
anyways
its bad match up from start
yeah the fact that it can brick cerb tho is massive
but yei dont even know if roach going to run titania
if haven is very popular
they gonna run her
for sure
wardbert will be popular 100%
Will tiania replace roach 
no

roach will run titaania for sure
the deck still has about 2 cards that can be flexed
basically aria cynthia amataz titania deck
Yeah with tiania you can phase out the green girl
and titania will just be the default card to slot in
and finisher rose queen
The green girl is kinda irrelevant when titania exists
but rose queen is still meme
always will be
Rose queen is giant meme when you can still do roach
which green girl, aerin? the 7pp garbage?
your main win cond going to be cynthias
Roach presents lethal potential
aggro def getting better for forest tho
ye
idk mango, roach kinda has a difficult time clearing wide boards espefcially with ward
and dragon, haven, sword all will go wide
yes and zirkonia with aria turns into a lot of face dmg
also that abyss new lego is cracked
it might be
Free pack, didn't want this legendary or gold 
I can't disenchant
oh right ur new
No 3 copies
YOU GOT MY GOAT

You can have my eudies in exchange
Fuck eudie
Looks like a child, otherwise would

imagine reanimate 2 times bonemancer thats so cancer to deal with with that new lego crest
yeah
the new card too
3/2 bane storm
we'll see at this moment i dont think she will be crazy cause she takes a sevo
Nah, that's weird, do armpit gang fr fr
it has some potential basically this card turns anything into the olivia mummy combo
so it is good
What's rune getting
def dont think abyss gonna be crazy strong or anything tho
i really like neptune
great ramp card
and dragon even need board oriented 7 drop
neptune 7 garyu 8 powerplay
if u super evo this it heals u for 4 and full board of 2/2 rushes
its ok but idk
id rather run odin instead atm
honestly odin is max like 2 off
in dragon
maybe 1
depends on meta
i dont think i would run 3 in ramp in any case
well in more storm oriented dragon
maybe
3
im gonna prob run 2 odins in most lists
there are more types of ramp dragon
u can play more board oriented less face dmg
and cock as endgame
or just more face dmg
ramp
gensis odin even forte
but i feel like storm dragon gonna be ass
vs ward haven
but who knows
maybe not
if u keep removing their shit
also if there gonna be more marine followers in name that neptune crest is so good
orcas are 2/2 rush but they are departed
i think
nice art
Hmm I've been having a very bad losing streak with abyss
The new rune version with earth rite has been killing me
I wonder if the slower Yuna list is the way to go for abyss for now
I guess it doesn't really matter meta is changing in 4 days
play more aggresive abyss
3 mummy 3 serpents
just try to setup turn 8 lethal
with crypts
turn 7 u can do olivia + mummy face
They always seem to play 3 3 mana earth rite spells by turn 8 
But fair playing slower plays into runes hands
Maybe I should use that list with the 6 mana storm
I shouldn't think too much though meta is changing soon
but ye charon is actually kinda fair card
shes not really broken
i think
unless new set have some disgusting
2 drop 1 drop or 3 drop
rune really depends its actually kinda 50/50 for abyss i feel like
but u def need to have setup crypt or board for turn 8 or 9
if u go to 10 its dangerous
but ye u can outgrind them technically if they dont kill u on 10 with kuon or cock
When I'm playing rune I never lost to the earth rite variant
my list for example runs fuck ton of healing
I guess it sacrificed control matchup for aggro
there is almost 0 chance u can beat cock dclimb lol
so unless they go super wide before i can play medusa i can be healthy for turn 10
what what
oh
once they have it ?
u cant yes
even if they dont get astaroth
u not gonna recorver from it
if we assume its gonna be earth rite then spellboost prolly stays the same then
i think second lego prolly going to be earth rite again
i assume
yes
i feel like spellboost only gonna get littlebit support
from some gold silver or bronze but core of deck stay same
expansion is in 3 days right?
but ye atleast classes got stuff that can fight rune better
now
like filene spell
sword lego
levin
what u think about neptune ?
abe
pretty good card right
the way u fight rune is pray u kill them b4 hades d climb
is neptune the orca girl
yea
yes
she is good yeah
teh fact that u get 2 orcas as fanfare makes the card good by itself
ye
and u get crest
without evo
if there are more marine traits
playable
u get free heals also from them
they're introducing so many crests already
ye
ngl i thought everything would be revealed a week before release
now nobody can fully theorycraft before release
yeah that card is insane
idk if ward haven is gonna run amulets though
u kinda want board space
that card will be ok but u wont be playing it on turn 5
u dont need amulets for this card
in like 990000099o02134i9901-24i3254% of games
u MUST drop salefa turn 5
or u die
5pp 3 storm is good by itself i guess, but wouldnt you rather run odin instead
ye i guess obviously its mainly for storm haven but i think its playable even in ward haven
technically
its good in general
but u gotta have amulets out
idk man i feel like u want as many board space available as ward haven, u dont really have impactful ward units by itself
but ye we know now both legos are for ward haven
so storm not gonna get any lego
haven
i just want haven to get good cards for draw
i think ward haven gonna be heavy followers list haven
few amulets
card draws maybe
and to activate bird
8 drop
i think u should run that grifon
haven has good draw cards
serene is enough tbh and ding dong
i think dark haven is fine to play
dark haven is a must lowkey
serene is 3 cards out of 40 
1 is ok but late game 2 is annoying asf
whats serene
i really dont like olivia since conserving your evo points is so crucial for haven
draw 2 amulet
everything u do requires it
u can run bunch of amuelts as far they countdown
and dark haven max one on board
vessel u can run too
yeah u never really wanna have more than one dark haven unless both players dont have evo points anymore
whats really good about aether she thin your deck
so u have higher chance drawining something late game
yes the same way as rodeo, i like it
she is like S+ tier card
an even better card than jeanne
aether? definitely lol
because of her u can now finally run ding dong without having to spend pp to play her
but wilbert u not playing in storm
yea wilbert def not
storm and ward haven gonna be the same thing man
not like the decks are different
they are different
i dont think ward is gonna run birds
u still gonna run ur avion amulets obviously and featherfall and 1-2 griffons w/e
only the griffon as finisher
its not that big a change
ward haven is obviously aimed more for late game and defensively where storm just try to kill u early
u dont want to run falcons in ward haven
1pp bird sucks, avian statue is mediocre
u will
no
u not saying no to a free 4/4 storm bird
surely the rest of haven cards will give them better units to play than avian statue
well too bad i dont have jeans i would def try pure storm haven next set
only thing ward will run will most likely be griffon and featherfall
grifon yes
haven already has the shittiest win cons in the game
im not taking out avion lol
why would u run another aoe
vessels kill your own units
feather was for clear +2-5 damage
it doesnt kill your units or require evo so ward will definitely run it
how i see it ward haven its pretty much gonna try to stick board until u can play jeanne and that kills u or u just play griffons from hands trying to kill someone
lapis depends if it gonna be played
how popular is odin
yeah thats how ward haven is gonna play, pray your board sticks
but tbh that 7 drop legendary that gives aura to everyone will be hard as fuck to remove
so u can curve jeanne into it
but ye ward haven is extremely defensive u just not gonna die early thats almost impossible i feel like
it depends
like u can crash into it or have bane or something
it wont be THAT bad
and i have no idea
what roach gonna do
with ward haven
they should just auto concede
well haven is still gonna be slow
they need to get card
so roach has windows to pop off
How rare is this lmao
doesnt matter if its slow
if u on curve wardbert then that 7 drop it'l be annoying tho
i experienced this once as well
that 7 drop create so much stats on board
pretty rare id say
Was ready to fuck him so hard if he played coc
100% forest gonna get aoe lily spell
Thank god he didn't draw coc and dclimb together
Cock and dclimb is fucking evil after 3 kuons and 3 annes
forest got nuff good shit already lol
I survived because I played well and knew he was going to greed with anne
3 blaze destroyers 3 Anne greas 3 kuons 3 stormy blasts
Nahhhh
Runecraft is bonkers man
It's like roach
You can only win if your opponent is bricked
ok only way roach win this if they dont draw aether thats the only way
because u can transform their wilbert
into fairy
Alright I will continue playing grand prix
Last match made me nut in my pants
I just had to share it
did you get your 4 wins already
i also never got 4 wins yet
Good luck brother
I got tired of top tier deck bs so I gotta use them as well
What can I say
It's the only way to level against them
like u can still get 4 wins in tournament with other low tier decks but its lower chance
Yeah I doubt I would have survived runecraft bullshit without this meta sword
nah bro i aint gonna mald over my grand prix tickets
u qualified for finals ?
i got 4 wins on the free try so im good
i actually used rupies to get to finals
i actually got 4 wins on my free try for both stages
but u played what
saved my rupies and tix by locking in forest 
yeah
i didnt play vs a forest even once in 10 games in the gp
thats weird
everyone is portal or rune or sword
i only played 10 games total tho so very small sample
but yeah 0 forest
mostly rune and sword
i hate when im one off lol without my opponent purposefully playing around the lethal range
bruh daily pack just gave me 4th coppy of anne grea 
i got 4th anne grea too recently
wait for lucky chest
to get super animated kuon
u get free 3 kuons
true
or did u already claim it ?
250
12k
but ye u can get kuon
that would be huge for u
i would also be happy for kuon
i have only 1
im good for like 3 more battle passes
BPs are really good in this game
i get so many of the same legendary copies though its insane
yes
but not that many
u must have tons of vials right
u not liquifying your shiny cards ?
4 cerbys, 6 amataz, 4 cocs, 4 arias, 4 anne greas
i havent yet yeah
u jsut hoarding them
its like 30k vials if i press it
Annoying af
iunno bout that
i dont know i think shes very strong
top 10
whos top 5
I got damaged down by mukan super evolve even though I tried my best to avoid all damage
Unlucky
If I had one more point of health I would have won
anne grea, orchis, god staff, alouette, and maybe sylvia
i have to think really hard for the 5th card
but its def not cerby
Anyway I'm done
ok anne grea orchis alloutte i agree
but staff or sylvia i think cerberus is better than them
they both great cards but cerb is better
glade is a contender as well
Extra pp from 2nd is just too good
i dont think kuon is that good tbh, if rune has 5 kuons and no coc that spellboost deck wont be as good as it is right now
5 kuons would do me in though

anne grea is cheap, spellboosts your hand, wards, stabilizes your position
my list would be anne grea orchis kuon alouette cerberus
kuon is not that good of a wincon
and staff and sylvia propably right bellow them
cerby is better than kuon
Kuon lowkeys gets cucked by Amelia ward wall 
but kuon spellboot your hand so much
and goes also storm
and on 10 its huge wincond
well yes
Make them use up all super evos beforehand
cerb also need super evo
well unless u have board
but for rune its easy to have super evos
for kuons
Cerb is giga good
well thats why i think shes in top 5
Any damage her fanfare didn't give can be made up with her super evo
Yeah
That's why JP says abyss is A tier
i mean abyss is def at good spot rn
its not toppest tier but also not lowest tier
have chance to beat anything lowest forest but it can still beat it
i just hate that most class can heal for 12 
abyss can heal for so much especially my list
Not sword 
yeah which is why i kinda hate playing abyss
its fun but sometimes when ur opponent perma heals its too hard to kill them before u run out of cards
why u bat chesting
deck i got 5 wins was literally my list
nobody runs 3 jugglers
sometimes forest just cant kill u through so much healing
btw can forest deal 20 dmg without evos ?
yes but its hard as fuck
your hand needs like 5 0 cost cards and a a bunch of 1 cost cards which is impossible
do u also need on board that amulet with +1+1 ?
no
staff ?
you need to have staff down unless u just have 2 roaches in hand lol
just not ralistic
so ye if im 20 and they have no evo
i should not be scared
of lethal
even on turn 10
?
i guess with coin left it would be scarier
if youre at 20 and they no longer have evos its super unlikely u will get otk'ed yeah
oh wait agnes to require amulets
on board
im pepega
ok ye i would not run her in ward
at all
breh
does strike activate even on hittin face ?
yeah
strike is not clash
so it should activate
like this card only activates when u attack follower
but ye pure storm have is now def scary unless
there is too much healing
or wards lol
u would run even that 1 pp amulet bird
that 1pp bird sucks too much man
basically only good if you can combo them with jeanne
why it sucks
it still 2/2 storm
and u payed only 1 mana for it
doesnt matter if its delayed
0 value, takes up board space
u will play it, u are down a card from your hand and gets almost nothing in return
pepelaugh
sadly havens new legi is winbert
lowkey id vessel there and save salefa for the amalia
male wincon = wont play
i want Jalter leader for haven
gimme Rin leader
wtf there is Lelouch leader
kek
Zwei, Symphonic Heart
5-Cost Portalcraft Follower
Fanfare: Summon a Victoria.
Whenever an allied Puppetry follower enters, give it Ward.
///
Victoria
Puppetry (Token)
Rush
Follower Strike: Deal X damage to the opposing follower, X is this follower attack.
Puppet









