Shadowverse

[umbral seal]

@wild gale

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Gonna try to get to diamond by the weekend

Probably GM by next week

[wild gale]

I will race you there with my shitty swordcraft

[umbral seal]

You have to shitstomp players in ruby to get to sapphire

And everyone is running optimal shit in sapphire

Even if you get there, you'll get knocked down pretty quick

[mystic tartan]

ill just stay at topaz

[wild gale]

Ah really?

Damn

I guess I have to count on my luck then

[cursive crypt]

jsut draw better

[umbral seal]

That's also the case in ruby. Why do you think I'm running aggro? lol

Or rather, "midrange" that feels like aggro

Just killed a rune player on turn 5

[gritty anvil]

i love how dragon is straigh forward

[mystic tartan]

gimme more pulls

[gritty anvil]

my deck

[cursive crypt]

how do you not die by turn 5 vs aggro

[gritty anvil]

lmao some forest player outplayed himself

he looked his board

locked

couldnt play roach

[cursive crypt]

all the dragon players i play vs runs apollo

[gritty anvil]

i need to add apollo vs forest

i almost lost

because he wasnt there

[cursive crypt]

i dont even go wide early game, baldy carries me through the early game

[blissful olive]

i fucking hate cygames man

[gritty anvil]

my list is pretty greedy

[blissful olive]

most retarded systems that should be simple af

imagine just logging into an account and linking it ?

???????????

[cursive crypt]

if they let me liquify cards freely my deck would be much better

[blissful olive]

of course tis fucking different u idiots

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

yeah man

same

[warped granite]

I pray for times like these

[mystic tartan]

this 3 dupe require to liquify is ridiculous

[blissful olive]

clicks enter

SORRY DIFFERENT ACCOUNT

yeah thats the fucking point u assholes

[warped granite]

Be thankful they don't just use the good old JP code system

[blissful olive]

that might have worked

like i hit sign in with google or cygames ID doesnt matter same message

[mystic tartan]

the FGO system

[cursive crypt]

this is what im running now but i would run one less carbuncle if i have enough vials to craft another baldy

i never draw baldy in my opening hand

[warped granite]

Yeah blud think they're pokemon pocket

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

What are you referring to as "baldy" here?

[blissful olive]

the bald guy

[umbral seal]

Oh.

Is that card actually worth running?

[cursive crypt]

its really strong if you can drop it turn 2-3

assuming you have 2 fairies in hand

[warped granite]

Yeah it's interesting so called 'aggro' decks usually will end with Albert or that 8 mana storm guy. I don't remember if it was like that in the OG game too

I'm having a good times though. Except portalcraft fuck dreizehn. In a lot of ways

[umbral seal]

It was.

Midrange sword was almost always relevant in OG shadowverse

Pressure early, control the board mid-game, finish with albert

[warped granite]

Control the board midgame part is more difficult this time though... Or maybe it's just portal

[wild gale]

It's just portal

Fucking portal 5/3 boardclear is crappy to deal with

[umbral seal]

It's really not, with my list, at least

I am consistently beating portal players right now in sapphire

[warped granite]

I do (usually) win more vs greedy decks - I think it's a triangle

[umbral seal]

Sword will roll over slow decks unless they roll the absolute nuts. But they're generally favored

[warped granite]

Yeah I got rolled by a rune with 2 grea 3 kuons, dshift and all their removals by 20 cards

Funny thing is if he didn't draw his 3rd kuon I would've won anyway, I guess sword is favored

[warped granite]

Hmm I think Amelia is key from what I see

[umbral seal]

Amelia, Olivia and Kagemitsu. All legendaries, I know.

lol

However, the first two allow you to keep your gas on the pedal, even against a control deck that is aggressively clearing your board

And Kagemitsu adds extra reach because he's an undying body and he has storm on super evo

Diamond ranked dragon, literally how

[mystic tartan]

the japanese

[umbral seal]

I cooked him on turn 6

But still

[warped granite]

Probably farming portal players

[umbral seal]

Yeah, that's what I tried doing, except I stopped running into portal players in sapphire

They're all in ruby

[gritty anvil]

holy so many ppl not expecting forte in my deck

[warped granite]

Lacari shadowverse pt 2 stream soon prayge

[unkempt lava]

Give lacari some pointers

[cursive crypt]

the deck is hard af to play sometimes

but its quite fun

is lacari gonna play vs his viewers or nah

[umbral seal]

Me first.

[mystic tartan]

lacatu

[umbral seal]

@warped granite Oh, also. For taking back control of the board, Jeno is arguably on par with legendaries

He can consistently 2-for-1 super evo'd followers without spending anything but mana

He's the goat

Actually, not 2-for-1. 2-for-0, because he has barrier while attacking. Bane bypasses barrier, though

[warped granite]

Oh god people at work are talking about Gundam decks. I work with scums

[warped granite]

Hmm my list is balls to the walls no control - I'll see if switching to more midrange style suits me better

[umbral seal]

If your list is full aggro, you need late game storm cards

[umbral seal]

DIAMOND

Aight, I can go to sleep for now.

GM is definitely in reach with this deck.

[cursive crypt]

the more i play vs sword the more i think its the best class

its a bad matchup for forest cause sword units have a lot of hp/taunt

[blissful olive]

can i see ur sword list ? curious how diff it is from mine

the mid range

[wild gale]

It is super duper strong if it doesn't meet board wiped

[umbral seal]

My list doesn't auto lose to board wipes

[umbral seal]

One sec.

@blissful olive

[cursive crypt]

yea u just keep spawning shit out of the ass especially with that 5 drop

[blissful olive]

actually very similar but i dont have kage

[umbral seal]

@wild gale If your sword deck hinges on never seeing a board wipe, you will probably be hard-stuck ruby

[cursive crypt]

i dont like phildau though, does sword really not have anything that instakill a unit

[umbral seal]

A lot of control players are running this guy

[blissful olive]

how powerful do u think kage is really

[wild gale]

Not really

I just play around board wipes

[blissful olive]

yeah almost every deck runs apollo

hes just good

[wild gale]

Bait them out and play a card that rebuilds my board instantly

[blissful olive]

he also hard fucks fairy a bit

[cursive crypt]

only noob dragon players run apollo

[umbral seal]

He's the least essential legendary but he does put in work. In close games, he provides extra reach with super evo and the fact that he always comes back after death means your opponent almost always has to worry about an extra unit

[wild gale]

Kage is a great tempo drop

[umbral seal]

They have a 4 cost spell but that is worse. Just run phildau.

[cursive crypt]

costing an evolve just doesnt seem worth it to me, since i assume you want to evolve to hit face most of the time

[wild gale]

I don't have phildau so I'm using that card

[umbral seal]

In hands where you have lyrala and kage, drop lyrala first.

[umbral seal]

Wrong.

[wild gale]

Yeah lyrala builds board

Does anyone run ancestral crown?

[umbral seal]

This is a midrange deck, not a mindless aggro deck

[wild gale]

I run it so Apollo can't take me out as easily

You need to bring the big board wipes

[umbral seal]

There are times where I evolve to hit face, but acting like phildau is bad because he isn't used for that is like saying Zirconia is bad

Because she only has an effect on evo

Despite the fact that her evo is absurd

[umbral seal]

I've seen some opponents run it but unless you're steamrolling your opponent, it's a tempo loss

That's why I don't.

[wild gale]

Her Evo is the best thing you can do as 2nd on turn 4

[cursive crypt]

yeah i would rather evo ziconia or the one that gives barrier. sword just has so many good evolves to waste it on phildau

isnt the 3 mana card good enough

the one that does 5 damage

[umbral seal]

Look at my list again

I'm running both for a reason

Amelia's super evo effect is often not that relevant in the games I have played.

Her base effect is already absurd enough

If you don't want to run phildau, feel free. Also, we can run some sets later

[cursive crypt]

oh amelia needs super evo? yea its prrobably only in certain conditions then

[umbral seal]

Correct.

[cursive crypt]

she is op without the evo already lol

i didnt get enough sword legendaries to craft it, i got 0 amelia

yeah i'd be down to play vs sword

i always get rekt by sword decks cause i feel like its so impossible to do anything

as forest

no way im running apollo just in casse im vs sword lol

[wild gale]

That's why you need to run grandpa

[umbral seal]

I mean, you're running a combo deck, you should run at least 2x apollo, imo. Especially if you don't have another form of cheap aoe

Rune doesn't need to use apollo because they have something different

You're just asking to lose vs anything that pressures you early game

[wild gale]

William gaming

[umbral seal]

And you run into that very often in sapphire

[umbral seal]

They also have the 5 drop that gets discounted and does aoe on evo based on your golems on board.

I think some lists are running 2 of those?

William is a hard 6 drop so he's not cheap, although he's very good

[cursive crypt]

if im running vs a lot of sword i'd for sure try running apollo. vs other classes i never felt the need to

[umbral seal]

What group are you in?

[gritty anvil]

burnite is actually so nuts i dont know how i play without it

[cursive crypt]

red

one after topaz

[umbral seal]

Yeah, that's ruby.

I think most players will probably cap out at ruby. But that's just a wild guess on my part.

[unkempt lava]

Wait shadowverse is main stream?

[wild gale]

Yes

Weeb hearthstone is popular

[wild gale]

Not as bad as swordcraft players like me

[cursive crypt]

it is the middle rank so i would think so yes

[warped granite]

Singlepooreans are weebs

[cursive crypt]

but people are still so bad 💀

[wild gale]

We need to kill all singlepoorians

[unkempt lava]

Lacari not running the shit to make roach work

No return to hand shit I've seen been done to me in ranked

[wild gale]

He needs carbuncle and bug alert

[mystic tartan]

what a surprise

Chinese = weebs

[wild gale]

I am surrounded by disgusting weebs

[mystic tartan]

also reminds me of Singaporeans speaking Bahasa when im in Japan

i thought they indo

[warped granite]

Nothing beats Malay boys playing azurlane I met once though

Haram brothers

[mystic tartan]

Malaya frogs

[fiery pulsar]

Lac will learn how to make a deck one day

[wild gale]

Mega haram

[unkempt lava]

Lacari blaming staff instead of his plays

[warped granite]

Missing lethal 3 turns in a row you can't make this up

[cursive crypt]

dude that was hard to watch

[wild gale]

I'm loving this shadowverse arc

[warped granite]

This is the perfect game for streamer

[wild gale]

Portalcraft being broken as usual

[warped granite]

Weeb, pvp, a lot of clippable moments

And somehow he stumbled into the most math heavy deck

[wild gale]

Got tricked by the fairies

[warped granite]

Eudie is not enough to sway him to portal....

[cursive crypt]

god staff the goat

[nocturne karma]

@cursive crypt has leveled up! (37 ➜ 38)

[cursive crypt]

lacari woulda fumbled this lethal

[mystic tartan]

rakari heckin love dingdong

[unkempt lava]

Dingdong the 0/2 do nothing

What a fucking brick

Lacari could had lethal if only he had a way to return to hand for free

[cursive crypt]

he would have lethal if his dumbass didnt play 2 extra fairies last turn

[warped granite]

Not punished

docnotL

[unkempt lava]

The times he makes a optimized deck he faces actual decks. When lacari tunes and adds 3 dingdongs and remove the golds he faces f2p

The game is training his ass

[warped granite]

Guess that's because he lost

But he's doing pretty ok for first TCG I thought

[unkempt lava]

Yeah he isn't targeting for face with non charge units anymore

[warped granite]

The ego of knowing what's best for his decks tho

[unkempt lava]

Annoys me it bit. Saying he doesn't need this it sucks

Surprised he doesn't know what he lacks after losing to it many times

Draw and removal

[cursive crypt]

if he wants an easier time he should just go full control deck instead of half assing like this

[warped granite]

If you don't play tcgs yet you might not be able to realise the root causes yet I guess

Like you don't think in those mindset yet

[cursive crypt]

since he doesnt like staff

[unkempt lava]

Lacari thinks hand is good if he has 5 fairies or something

In mid-late game

[warped granite]

Just need to develop the 'muscle memory' then it should be easier to tune decks

[unkempt lava]

He's an actual fairy hoarder

[gritty anvil]

yep cock

i actually wanted him pog

[warped granite]

1 matchup where dingdong is actually decent

[cursive crypt]

worst matchup for forest

cant fuckin win vs that many wards

[warped granite]

Glade is so good though

[cursive crypt]

wait maybe i gotta add glades into mine

i'll get rid off all the carbuncles

[blissful olive]

not 2 bad

[warped granite]

Damn lac ruby already? He been grinding

Already twice my rp

For a first time player he won quite a lot of games, good job streamer if you're peeping here

[blissful olive]

DO SOMETHING

FUCK YOU PORTAL

THATS RIGHT NOTHING

[warped granite]

HS frogs in chat wanting lac to play both games are shit but at least this shit has anime girls

Oh god that lethal miss hurts

[wild gale]

Missed the most obvious lethal

Get his ass to swordcraft

[warped granite]

He'll miss too much damage and get board wiped

[wild gale]

God given lethal

Kuncussion would be having aneurysms looking at this gameplay

[blissful olive]

oh lacari still on it

he still running forest?

oh god he is someone get this man off this boolshit

[warped granite]

He's doing fine tbh, for first time player

The miscalcs hurt tho

[chilly viper]

guys is your first gacha legendary fixed

[mystic tartan]

he stomping f2p

[blissful olive]

only 11% play sword? damn buff sword

abyss # 1

[warped granite]

Lacari would've won vs Jena lmao

If he can count to 8

[blissful olive]

last i checked he didnt understand combo that well

[wild gale]

The combo was easy

He didn't even have to bounce roach back

[blissful olive]

no

[wild gale]

Buff green outline fairies

[blissful olive]

i mean COMBO

[wild gale]

Combo itself is even easier to understand

Play 3 cards and fuck everyone

[warped granite]

He understood already now, it's just about calculating damage on the fly

[wild gale]

ARIA MILLED

[blissful olive]

bro i was bouta buy the battle pass

they want u to spend like 15 bucks on it

no wonder ppl are pissed

750crystals just out of range better drop the 20

[warped granite]

Yeah I don't like being nickel and dimed like that

Haven't spent outside the customary 1.5 even though I've prepped the money

[blissful olive]

its a scummy ass tactic a lot of games do mostly mobile

like they sell u a pack just under what u need so u either buy 2 or buy the big one

[warped granite]

The management mustve thought they're clever

Poor devs tbh

[blissful olive]

its a common thing to do but ppl are pissed off lol

i feel like shit is more expensive tbh its 1 pack for 100 gems right

idk things feel more expensive for sure

[warped granite]

Yeah see you boil the frog slowly not from the get go

They are stingier in too many ways at once

[blissful olive]

yeah

slowly fuck us buy us dinner first maybe

lol

just got 2 of this mfer also

smh i hate it here

abyss is gonna be amazing next set tho i bet they have a lot of good shit but they are missing a clear win condition that every other deck has

[cursive crypt]

if it makes u feel any better i got 4 cerberus and a medusa

[chilly viper]

do we have a guild

[cursive crypt]

yea join kunc's guild

im the only other guy in there tho

[chilly viper]

i need to do all this shit

[cursive crypt]

add me im playing now

[warped granite]

Lol I'm in mangos

[cursive crypt]

i'll help u

is mango guild leader

[warped granite]

Drop your user ID here cheeze

Yeah he is

[chilly viper]

where is that

[cursive crypt]

bruhg

[warped granite]

We can combine to 1 at some point

[cursive crypt]

why do we have 2

[chilly viper]

510070149414

my user id

[cursive crypt]

yea we shoul;d

sooner the better imo

[chilly viper]

i got a banger abysscraft card

[cursive crypt]

wait a sec im in game

2min

[chilly viper]

@wild gale ayo let me add you in game

[warped granite]

He's too busy sackbeating

Honestly I understand I can't help it too if I can chat rn

[wild gale]

872709899421

[chilly viper]

added

[cursive crypt]

jenazad is only ruby?

i thought he is at least sapphire

@chilly viper u still need help or no, im mob no.3

i'll just go afk while u hit me

[chilly viper]

ok i will warp to u

[mystic tartan]

i got another ticket

thats 4

[cursive crypt]

go to the table where im at

cant just challenge friends directly for now

[mystic tartan]

where albert

[chilly viper]

i need to play 5 matches

u down?

[cursive crypt]

i will pass and u just hit me

[mystic tartan]

@gritty anvil

[cursive crypt]

so its quick

[chilly viper]

ok ok thanks

[cursive crypt]

u need 10 btw

i'll pass while back seating lacari

[chilly viper]

can u auto this? isn't it a little troublesome

😅

[wild gale]

Guys should I spend on new pack

[wild gale]

Not really he just needs to click on end turn

Super fast

[cursive crypt]

This ain't gacha bro

[wild gale]

[chilly viper]

u a real one

frfr

[cursive crypt]

Unless u want to actually vs me

[wild gale]

Use swordcraft and kill him quick

[chilly viper]

i don't even know how to play lol

[wild gale]

I actually vsed skoomah to hone my deck

[cursive crypt]

U will experience biggest deck diff

Bro he hasn't pulled

He has auto complete deck

[chilly viper]

wait how do you know it was auto complete deck

[cursive crypt]

Wdym I look at what cards u play and it was obvious

[chilly viper]

😂

[wild gale]

Do the starter 9 missions to get an offensive swordcraft deck

[cursive crypt]

Nah go do all the freebie packs first

[chilly viper]

ok

u mean the battle basics thing right

[cursive crypt]

After u do all the freebie openings u look at what u get

Then u decide what u wanna craft

Unless u plan to whale which just means nothing matters

[wild gale]

Not worth whaling

Anyway peep my stats

[cursive crypt]

I was tempted but I resisted. U should be able to build a decent deck after a week playing with the freebies

I did get the $2 pack though

[chilly viper]

maybe i'll wait for them to make the things cheaper

hopefully

[cursive crypt]

honestly not gonna happen

[wild gale]

Don't bother tbh

[cursive crypt]

if they just let us liquify anything i think this game would legit be fine

and if people keep complaining they might just let us

not gonna do shit with the curerncy tho

[blissful olive]

yeah

its fucking stupid but the dev's are incompetent

[cursive crypt]

im honestly not that mad about the f2p economy

its only the thing about liquifying cards

[blissful olive]

yeah

[mystic tartan]

same

if theres liquify holy

[warped granite]

Yeah definitely economy isn't as bad if just we can't liquify

Like they tightened so many screws, if even just 1 of them was loose it wouldn't be this bad

[mystic tartan]

i really hope they can make us liquify

[blissful olive]

they havent said shit

either 3 things will happen next

[wild gale]

Bring back liquification to it's shadowverse 1 values

[blissful olive]

were sorry but heres like 5k or some bullshit compensation

[wild gale]

And this game would be ok

[cursive crypt]

@chilly viper wanna try playing for real on the last game, the one aftger this?

[blissful olive]

they walk it back

or do nothing lol

[chilly viper]

sure sure

[wild gale]

5k crystals maybe

Rupees is bs

[chilly viper]

gonna take longer though if u don't mind

cus i kinda wanna read the cards lmao

[cursive crypt]

ye its fine its only last game

[blissful olive]

nope

5k gems ? lol thats like 100 bucks

[cursive crypt]

mhm, cost too much lol

[blissful olive]

heres a free 5 or 10 packs

thats the best u can hope for they not walking this dusting shit back

[wild gale]

Project moon would never

[wild gale]

Maybe when the games EOS

[mystic tartan]

who

[wild gale]

Who am I kidding JP players will sustain it

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

Le limbus devs

[mystic tartan]

limbussy

[blissful olive]

game already is eos

they gotta bring it back from the grave

[wild gale]

When some drama happens they send out 20 pulls

[chilly viper]

lol ggs

[cursive crypt]

see how deck diff matters xd

[chilly viper]

@cursive crypt thanks for helping with the quests

appreciate it

[cursive crypt]

np bro

[warped granite]

Some jp comments I saw on YouTube rationalising that pokemon pocket can be more generous because they're famous

[cursive crypt]

go snap a pic and shit

message someone ingame

[warped granite]

But anyway point is they know sv is stingy and even pocket is more generous

[blissful olive]

SV 1 was perfectly fine

why change is wht ppl confused about

[chilly viper]

510070149414

[cursive crypt]

come join kunc;s guild man

[warped granite]

Top selling in steam and Android is why

[chilly viper]

anybody wanna add me 😳

[blissful olive]

top selling

FREE GAME BTW

[warped granite]

Is this sustainable though

We will see

[chilly viper]

oh i already joined mango's one

[cursive crypt]

we need to merge but idk which guild has more progress

i dont mind joining either one

[chilly viper]

yours

lv10 vs lv8

[blissful olive]

i still love my cerby tho

[mystic tartan]

they got the JP peeps

[blissful olive]

JP players: stupid broke bitch americano

probably

eat your mcdonalds fatty

[lone agate]

is there like a full list for the Groups, that should be the actually mmr right?

[wild gale]

I should fight kunc over our guild merger

[lone agate]

the game has guilds ? 🤨

[warped granite]

Not insignificant amount of them are bitching too tbf.

[umbral seal]

Sapphire is brutal if you're not playing optimally nor playing an optimal deck. I got kicked down to ruby like 3 times before I grinded sword to diamond

You need a significantly high win rate to stay above ruby

[lone agate]

so its like Topaz > Ruby > sapphire?

[umbral seal]

Yup. Then diamond is the highest (right now)

[lone agate]

[cursive crypt]

bruh is sapphire really that hard to maintain

crazy to me that jena and lacari is same rank

[umbral seal]

Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually add something above diamond

[cursive crypt]

and lacari is hot garbage

[blissful olive]

idk why hes dead set on playing forest

[mystic tartan]

[blissful olive]

if he likes it cool

[cursive crypt]

we know why

[blissful olive]

oh no

[umbral seal]

I don't know why you don't believe me considering how many games I've played already

[mystic tartan]

DING DONG

[umbral seal]

[mystic tartan]

TAG

[warped granite]

It's in the deck name amiguetes

[mystic tartan]

DING DONG

TAG

[blissful olive]

surely he wont lose to abyss

[cursive crypt]

i'll grind on the weekend and confirm this

[blissful olive]

not the worst deck ever

[cursive crypt]

i'll one trick forest to diamond on the weekend

[umbral seal]

[chilly viper]

realistically without paying, how high can i climb

[wild gale]

I will one trick swordcraft

[mystic tartan]

i go to topaz and now emerald all day

[wild gale]

If you complete all the missions and get lucky you could probably get sapphire with a meta portalcraft

[umbral seal]

Depends on what you're playing. However, even if you pay, getting above ruby is far from guaranteed

[cursive crypt]

im f2p (i spent $2) but i actually have a very solid deck

[umbral seal]

Most players don't realize how many mistakes they make every game

[blissful olive]

i spent 2 bucks also but i made full sword

so im kinda ok i got mid range and aggro built nicely

3 alberts 3 ameila's and so on

[cursive crypt]

if you are good enough u can climb to diamond f2p frfr. of course with a lot of luck on your pack openings

[chilly viper]

is this the $2 u guys spent on

[wild gale]

Like lacari missing lethal

[wild gale]

Yeah

But imagine buying that when I could buy limbus BP

[blissful olive]

better than any legendary

[wild gale]

[blissful olive]

i am her knight

[warped granite]

She doesn't need u bro

[blissful olive]

thats fucked up man

[umbral seal]

Combo Forest is hard even for players who aren't new. It was my least played craft in og sv for a reason

[warped granite]

[cursive crypt]

u can have her i have medusa with me

[blissful olive]

i dont think its hard its just not that fun

[wild gale]

I have Albert

[blissful olive]

i only like decks that i enjoy playing not how strong they are

[wild gale]

It's fun pulling off combos and blasting people to death with roach

I did it in SV1

[cursive crypt]

i love combo and control archetype

[umbral seal]

Combo Forest is by far the hardest deck to pilot correctly because of how often you need to calculate lethal

[blissful olive]

ye roach is gey

[umbral seal]

Even if you think you don't have it

[cursive crypt]

since i cant craft control combo will do

[blissful olive]

aria is super good too

[wild gale]

I think the most important thing is to understand your enemy's win con

Then you will be able to figure out what cards they are likely to play

[blissful olive]

u kinda know what they are already most decks have 1 or 2 in general

unless ur playing abyss

[wild gale]

Of course being a dirty mid range swordcraft player I just slam everyone to death

[blissful olive]

slam it in me onii chan

[chilly viper]

holy shit 3500 vials for a legendary

[warped granite]

Yeah das fucked up cheeze

[chilly viper]

that's gonna take me so long

[wild gale]

Not really

[umbral seal]

Honestly, I've been facing more abyss lately. Aragovy is okay but Medusa is a problem when she hits the board

[blissful olive]

yeah medusa is amazing fr

like if abyss had a proper win con

[wild gale]

Once I liquiefied all my free pack cards I got 7k vials

[blissful olive]

it would be fucking broken

[chilly viper]

this would assume u need 3 copies right

[cursive crypt]

nah u open everything u should have 8-10k vials

[blissful olive]

like abyss has nothing close to like albert or roach

they have no end game

[wild gale]

Just pull 1 copy

Anyway you don't really need 3 copies

3 copies is nice to have for more consistency

[chilly viper]

i went to the liquefy card section and it says number of cards les than 3

what does that mean

[wild gale]

But 2 is enough

[blissful olive]

but once abyss gets 1 more thing it will be amazing

[cursive crypt]

i look at abyss cards and sword cards and get depressed

the cards are too garbage

[wild gale]

If you have less than 4 cards they don't let you liquefy

[cursive crypt]

only 4 good cards in abyss

[chilly viper]

wtf

[wild gale]

Don't worry you will get a shit ton of copies

[warped granite]

Swords aite

[wild gale]

I'm already saving gold for next expansion

[chilly viper]

i actually wanted to play abysscraft

[wild gale]

[chilly viper]

but i guess it's shit?

[wild gale]

The mutilated Frankenstein of blood and shadow craft

[cursive crypt]

yea same im hoarding gold for arena/next expansion

[wild gale]

Guys I'm going to win the 2.5 million rupees no cap

[cursive crypt]

i bought 20 packs with rupies already though

[chilly viper]

are we merging guilds

also what's the point of being in a guild

[cursive crypt]

you get vials

at the end of season

[chilly viper]

wtffff

[cursive crypt]

a lot of it actually

[wild gale]

Oh fr?

[chilly viper]

@wild gale let's move to kunc's guild

his is higher level

[blissful olive]

lowkey the best card in abyss

[cursive crypt]

thats why we gotta merge

[blissful olive]

is fucking ceres

[cursive crypt]

earlier the better

[blissful olive]

that bitch is so annoying to remove sometimes

[wild gale]

We should fight each other to prove who should be alpha leader guild

[chilly viper]

u don't stand a chance

[wild gale]

I'm actually a secret omega alpha beta God king

Kuncussion stands no chance

[cursive crypt]

actually a lot of vials

[mystic tartan]

lmao i just destiny draw shit

last draw albert

back to topaz

[wild gale]

3500 vials

That's dogshit

Wadahell

I thought you said it was a lot

[cursive crypt]

one legendary is a lot but realistically we prob get to B rank

[blissful olive]

basically u get 1 legendary

[cursive crypt]

A if everyone here joins and plays

[chilly viper]

i'm too lazy to figure this out but what's the point of playing enhanced puppet but it's gone next turn

[cursive crypt]

cheap board clear

orchis also makes it able to go face

[chilly viper]

oh so u need a good card to make it usable

[umbral seal]

Technically, it's Cerberus but for an 8 drop, she's not as game ending as something like Albert.

I think the best way to play abyss right now is midrange.

[cursive crypt]

cerberus is garbage the only good legendary in abyss is medusa\

cerb seems good cause theres nothing better

but if you compare it to other 8 cost legendaries it is just trash

[umbral seal]

I wouldn't say she's complete garbage but she's expensive for what she does. She was a 5 drop in the og

I don't know why they nerfed the card so much

[cursive crypt]

yeah if its 5 cost that card would slap

like u compare curent cerb vs kuon

who would u rather have

and kuon is cheaper

[blissful olive]

forest is better aggro than sword change my mind

[cursive crypt]

forest isnt aggro though, it cant really compete with sword for board

ur just setting up your combo for lethal

[blissful olive]

its like portal where they send a million puppets to clear ur board

[umbral seal]

Sword can value trade with forest all day, their only chance is combo

[blissful olive]

easy board wipes too

[umbral seal]

Via rose queen, roach or both

[chilly viper]

in this game, can u get healed beyond 20?

[umbral seal]

No

[chilly viper]

ah

[umbral seal]

Yeah, this ain't yugioh or mtg

[chilly viper]

i used to play a lot of aroma in yugioh

[blissful olive]

ygo is just so bad now

5 minute turns fuck me

[chilly viper]

too complex

[cursive crypt]

i hjate yugioh

too much reading nowadays

[blissful olive]

its not complex its just not the same game i loved anymore

i was cool up till XYZ thats fine

but pendulums is fucking stupid

and so is links

[chilly viper]

link is fine

pendulum is stupid though

[blissful olive]

nah they part of the problem

xyz should be the end

[chilly viper]

i change my mind. should have stopped at synchro

[chilly viper]

fr

[blissful olive]

bro wtf is that LOL

[brisk adder]

Why baldie getting coached every game?

The real weeb card game is yugioh

[umbral seal]

To be fair, roach combo would be one of the only decks where coaching is warranted

However, it won't be enough

It takes a special kind of player to be good at roachcraft

[wild gale]

I feel like playing roachcraft

[cursive crypt]

i feel my my deck isnt even optimal yet

i ahvent seen what people actually run

for roach craft

im 100% sure carbuncle is ass

i wanna cut it but not sure for what

[brisk adder]

I imagine him playing yugioh

The struggle

[wild gale]

The only comparable is god staff/bug alert

Or just pull more roaches

[cursive crypt]

naw i have those

i run quite an aggressive list

[wild gale]

The only good thing about carbuncle is that it can clear dangerous units/ward

[brisk adder]

Wtf is roachcraft

[wild gale]

But otherwise you are sacrificing +3 damage

[wild gale]

You use roach to storm your enemy to death

[cursive crypt]

if i have more olivias/baldy i would run more

[brisk adder]

I'm starting so idk

[cursive crypt]

but i got no vials

[blissful olive]

take me back to sv1

take rush away from those dumbass fairy people

[warped granite]

Where are my flower fencer

[brisk adder]

Just play control

Of course aggro are the best decks on release

Just like every damn mana based card games.

[cursive crypt]

best decks are actually midrange sword and spellboost

aggro is pretty ass

[wild gale]

Aggro players when Apollo shows up

[cursive crypt]

aggro players when enemy unlock evolve

[wild gale]

Aggro players when i spawn ward wall

[chilly viper]

stupid ass game

[blissful olive]

how long ago did u quit one

i dont see atimer

[chilly viper]

5 mins ago lol

[nocturne karma]

@chilly viper has leveled up! (64 ➜ 65)

[mystic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-vr-chat-milltina-maid-cute-gif-6870465306633734560

[umbral seal]

BTW, as a guild leader, what do I need to do

If anything

[gritty anvil]

lol

[chilly viper]

erm

i still don't know what to choose

[warped granite]

Once in a lifetime this happens when there's no fucking alouette

[warped granite]

Pair with a legendary you have

Btw are we moving to kunc's guild now?

[chilly viper]

yea

[chilly viper]

you're saying i should just play around these cards?

looks like i can play havencraft

[warped granite]

Hmm pull more I guess lol

[wild gale]

Betrayal

[cursive crypt]

gg bricked acc

pulled an abyss lego

once u have opened more then u can start thinking what you can build

[silver tide]

aggro hoo hah

Win or lose fast

El cheapo deck

[silver tide]

Is demon of purgatory in the king cock deck

I dont remember that one

[cursive crypt]

ye

if its a big card for 0 mana its from king cock

[chilly viper]

can someone explain to me why i cannot attack?

i thought a card that you evolve will always be able to attack right?

[bright silo]

they gain rush

not storm

rush only lets you attack followers

storm lets you attack the leader

[chilly viper]

ohhh

[chilly viper]

okay so i just realised that legends rise is a "card set". in that case, when is the new card set coming out and when it does, does that mean my cards will go obsolete

[wild gale]

If they gained storm from super evolution games would end by turn 4

[wild gale]

Depends on how much powercreep there will be

[chilly viper]

hehe

[wild gale]

It's releasing next month

So probably not much

[chilly viper]

i don't wanna use my pulls and then the cards go bye bye

[wild gale]

Shadowverse operates on 2 year rotation like HS

I think

For these 2 years all cards are usable

[chilly viper]

ahhh

so when they introduce a card set, it would just be additional cards right

wait, then what if the additional cards are the good ones and i've been wasting pulls on copies of shit cards

how much more should i pull

should i just save them

[brisk adder]

Who's the best class this expansion except for portal

[cursive crypt]

use them all until you can make something to play

rune and sword

i dont even think portal is that good

its a tier below sword and rune

puppet is prob better than gundam tho for portal

[chilly viper]

bruh wtf is this

[fading echo]

oops my bad didn't mean to ping

[warped granite]

if i get what you mean correctly, no, you'll still be able to use old cards, I don't think they will rotate this early

but new cards will trend more powerful

[chilly viper]

i see

[warped granite]

hmm seems like ranked are getting a bit easier

maybe the good players rank up already

[chilly viper]

how are you guys playing swordcraft

from the tutorials, it's one of the most boring ones

[silver tide]

Ryne

Runr

Not even close

Dclimb king cock

[warped granite]

ive always been an aggro player so even if it's not budget I have been looking to play sword or abyss

[chilly viper]

what is considered "budget" in this game

[silver tide]

Sword is just go face and hope.you can kill

Before the tier0s can finish their bushit

Midrange is unplayable so you either play combo or commit giga aggro

[warped granite]

there is a bronze finisher which is actually quite decent

sword that is

[chilly viper]

i see

[warped granite]

sword decision is where you should make trades without sacrificing your damage

it's like what lacari was doing but far less complicated cos you don't need to think about combo and shit

[warped granite]

thats why people call it brain dead and it's true to an extent

[silver tide]

Never trade only face

Only trade if the minion cant hit face

[chilly viper]

it's so fun to play though

[silver tide]

Centaur Centurion is pretty decent

costs 1 less than albert

[warped granite]

as far as budget finisher goes it's probably the best even

[silver tide]

You want more copies of your turn8/9 finisher

Because combo usually autowins at 10

[chilly viper]

do games even usually last that long?

[silver tide]

Yes

[chilly viper]

wtf

[silver tide]

Because they gave rune and portal broken as fuck anti aggro removal

[warped granite]

if you're lucky you can win on board by turn 5-7 but usually you'll have to rely on your finisher

[silver tide]

Puppets can outvalue trade midsword for cheap

Artifact Y destroys your entire board for free

[warped granite]

like kill half their HP by turn 7 and burst to end by turn 8

something like that

[silver tide]

You need to put them in kill range before they start aoe spamming

[chilly viper]

if by turn 8 games don't usually end, does that mean i can use jeanne

[warped granite]

youre lucky = they brick and dont draw their cringe ass cards

[silver tide]

And then just chunk them out with centaur or albert

If you play quickblade on 1

And he manages to do 2 face damage

Thats actually a huge win

Thats how fast you need to get into kill range

Cuz they cant balance classes properly

[bright silo]

if you like your current deck

save

chances are the new season will powercreep everything

[chilly viper]

that's so stupid but it makes sense

isn't one month too fucking short

[pastel spoke]

does dragoncraft suck or do i suck

[bright silo]

u suck

it's one of the best decks atm

[pastel spoke]

thanks just checking

[bright silo]

it's good but like

you can also get screwed up if you don't get any good cards

more than any other deck

if you can't build momentum then you lose most time

[wild gale]

@umbral seal you right

Fuck these runecraft dimensional climbing little fucking kuon drawing Anne and mysteria abusing little bastards

[umbral seal]

Dumbest thing I've read all day

Wanna play me?

[bright silo]

@pastel spoke

[pastel spoke]

holy moly

[bright silo]

this is what I'm running atm

[pastel spoke]

💀

[bright silo]

this one cheaper

works just as well

[wild gale]

Guys I'm not pissed at all

I am filled with complete peace

At these Legos spammers

[bright silo]

like if you get olivia and forte

and you went 2nd

the +1 play point let's you summon those 2 on the same turn

insane combo if you get to 10pts first

[umbral seal]

Most legos aren't auto win, believe it or not

However, after hitting diamond, I will say that Orchis needs nerfs

I originally hated Ralmia but no

Orchis isn't an auto loss but it's insanely difficult to deal with

I'm gonna update my sword deck a bit and then make an abyss deck

[silver tide]

Where are the midrange decks

Cuz i dont see them

[bright silo]

I have this one

but I don't play it

[wild gale]

My opponent fucking top decked apollo

I'm fucking done man

[bright silo]

this deck is pretty busted though

[silver tide]

Pressure too low

How is he 18 HP on t7

[umbral seal]

#1383658402005123112 message

[silver tide]

fuck i would try that but

I dont have fucking 12 lego

[bright silo]

wait you run

3 kagemitsu?

do the crests stack

[umbral seal]

I just edited the deck to cut one. Because the crests actually do not stack.

So I'm running 2 now

[silver tide]

Can you not have 2 kages

Like rezing

[umbral seal]

Kage gives you more sticking power in a meta where keeping a board is difficult. He also has storm on super evo, which is very relevant for setting up Albert lethal.

[silver tide]

Im missing 5 legos

[plain gull]

Bois here my invite code ZYuVvVK

[bright silo]

oh

[silver tide]

Let me just print 2 kage 2 dao

[bright silo]

I see

[silver tide]

[bright silo]

so you super evolve kage when you have albert on hand

[silver tide]

Kage is probably a good t3 summon on empty

[bright silo]

that card always felt useless to me ngl

[silver tide]

My 3s are garbage

[bright silo]

but I never thought of that

[umbral seal]

I don't wait for the enemy to use their evos. I'm always thinking about how close I am to lethal.

[silver tide]

If only I could

Dust cards im not using

[bright silo]

true

forced to swipe

I have 3 cocs

too unlucky

[silver tide]

Bro

[bright silo]

[wild gale]

He's an aggro deck

[silver tide]

I have 5 cocks

[warped granite]

[wild gale]

You need to kill all the followers over leader

Once he doesn't have followers he's kinda done

If he didn't have Apollo I would have scruffed by a win

Also I just encountered havencraft that somehow drew infinite board wipes

Man fuck

Fuck the cum chalice

[bright silo]

when you pull off this combo

https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148

[silver tide]

maybe i just craft kage

hes probably godo enough for aggro

dao can wait

chacnes are hes better than war hound

[bright silo]

it's a 3 cost

that respawns

has storm when super evolved

works with olivia

[silver tide]

does he not have storm on rez

[bright silo]

nah

[silver tide]

ills ay this

you get way more holos

than you do in hs

[wild gale]

HS sucks

Also do we really have to stomp ruby players to make it to sapphire?

Shit feels like luck

[umbral seal]

I'm starting to see more abyss in diamond

[umbral seal]

Yes. It's not luck.

Do you think I consistently make it to the top ranks in card games all by luck? That's not how that works

[wild gale]

How do you deal with 5 board wipes from havencraft draws though

[umbral seal]

You need a lot of reach and gas, which my midrange sword has

It has a positive win rate vs haven

[silver tide]

dont forget wallet

[wild gale]

You know I think I know what my problem is

I don't have enough fucking amelia

[silver tide]

cards aint free

[wild gale]

She's actually so broken

You can draw out your late gas cards

Also fuck kuon

Absolutely overtuned crazy ass lego

[umbral seal]

I won't lie, I did spend a fair bit

[wild gale]

Honestly Albert should be an 8 cost Lego to compensate for how broken other 8 cost legos are

[silver tide]

i did too

but i got 5 king cocks

instead

[wild gale]

He feels so underpowered

Compared to the rest of the OP legos

Smh

But honestly I think I stayed at same MMR

For every loss I got a win

Man portalcraft 5 costs gotta be some of the most crazy drops btw

[silver tide]

honestly

[umbral seal]

???

[silver tide]

now i play centurion

i use albert as 5 mana storm card

a lot

[umbral seal]

This channel is gonna give me brain damage

[silver tide]

i think i play against a midsword

they were playing dao

i stomped him

too slow lmao

albert as 5 mana deal 6 with super evo honestly is enough a lot of the time

crafted 1 copy of kage

[wild gale]

[silver tide]

he did ok in the two games i played cuz i happened to draw him both time

[chilly viper]

wth does lego mean

[wild gale]

Legendary

[silver tide]

wish the 3 mana 1/2 that summons a 2/2 was on last word instead so itd be sticker

[wild gale]

Board wipes are so annoying man

But honestly as swordcraft I need more Amelia

She my barrier queen

You can help to survive damage board wipes

[silver tide]

I dont even barrier that often

I just need to draw gas

[wild gale]

[silver tide]

Shinobi Squirrel is kinda goat

NGL

[wild gale]

I don't use Shinobi squirrel