Duet Night Abyss

[rain drift]

once im 55 then i gotta get every char and every wep to 70

pray for me

[woeful plinth]

i'm still 52

spend all my time getting scraps of exp trying to complete my wedge collection

[minor furnace]

i did that too for a while

still missing a few blues and then it's only whites

[feral girder]

seems there's higher chance for these to drop here

[minor furnace]

"here" is not rly narrowing it down much

[feral girder]

felt rather low on defence one

[minor furnace]

it's expulsion too so i think that's afkable

well more easily afkable

[feral girder]

yeah

need a bit more dmg to farm faster for lvl 100 tho

[minor furnace]

oh yeah i didn't rly take into account the lv 100 part

though idk should still be afkable at least even at lv 70

still not sure what the best afk team would be tbh

honestly maybe i6 hellfire is actually a top tier afk main lol

[feral girder]

take around 3 min with becca and nifle

[minor furnace]

though realistically you just boost rebecca

yeah 3 minutes sounds like a lot tbh

[rain drift]

i6 HF would take like a month or more 2 farm lol

[minor furnace]

feel like most expulsions take like 1 minute

yeah and realistically i guess just boosting rebecca would probably be better

[feral girder]

becca i4 is pretty mid for farming

has her i2

[minor furnace]

i'm still not rly convinced becca dupes are all that great for afking

but i mean, rebecca is still the best afker by a mile probably so

every little bit helps

[feral girder]

probably pretty nice buff for poison dmg from i3/i5

[rain drift]

thank god

my luck been kinda shit with her

[minor furnace]

yeah i personally think i3 would be a great stopping point for rebecca if you do farm dupes for her to afk faster

you get 2 extra lvls on jellyfish which on afk should be her primary source of damage and a passive lvl for good measure

and for any single target threats you have lady nifle there whose ai does a fairly decent job of just spamming ult and E inside ult from what i've seen

also i kinda wish i had ab unch of those 24% support skill CDs that pon showed earlier

you can have such huge uptime on some pets then like the skill duration pyro one and the heal over time

[rain drift]

i swear drop rate for the free characters is lower lol

almost 20 tickets in 14 frag

[minor furnace]

like if you by some chance got a shiny pyrootail with 4 slots and you have 96% skill cd, you essentially have 100% uptime lol

we definitely need a better way to farm geniemon though, surely the play isn't to go mintpicking every single day for 2 star geniemon in the hopes you someday get orange skills

[feral girder]

they only need to make higher chance to spawn in missions

[minor furnace]

only to then do it again cuz after a month you found the shiny version of the pet you're using so you gotta do it again

[rain drift]

finally man jesus

why was this so painful

idk what i wanna do now tho

maybe nifle dupes

or gun dupes

[minor furnace]

does the damage dealt from that actually apply if you're not inside the circle?

[rain drift]

i cant tell lol

im 100 off now so ima just i1 lynn

[minor furnace]

the wording is a bit iffy cuz while you'd think the skill would just need to be active,

https://i.imgur.com/gCLSWqM.png

[rain drift]

it says is active so it suggests not

[minor furnace]

this kinda seems to imply you only get emerald effusion when you're in the circle

[rain drift]

it would say while standing in etc

but this games wording isnt that great

[minor furnace]

so if that's true then the dmg dealt buff is kinda not good cuz when is psyche ever gonna be standing still in there

[feral girder]

can get range

[rain drift]

thats true

u could also put siren kiss on her

30% right there

[feral girder]

isn't it work vertically as well

[minor furnace]

the issue is

https://i.imgur.com/qZ8Mlk4.png

it's 6m base range

that is not a lot

[rain drift]

in any case free damage

getting her i1 is fine

[minor furnace]

i mean it's godtier if all it needs to be is just the skill active, but it's so hard to tell cuz we have so many goddamn buffs in this game and we can't actually check them

midcombat that is

[rain drift]

yeah i cant fucking tell lmao

[feral girder]

what is this for

[rain drift]

no idea i got that 2

no notes iirc

[minor furnace]

i remember seeing some notes in game

https://i.imgur.com/BMc7hUX.png

[rain drift]

oh ok so some minor stuff

[minor furnace]

yeah nothing special

[rain drift]

ok fr

does the base characters fragments have lower drop rate?

like this shit is absurd

[feral girder]

no

same 10%

[rain drift]

fucking wild

[feral girder]

for gold

[rain drift]

im talking regular shit

im not even getting the 2

[feral girder]

same for all

[rain drift]

insane

[trail temple]

the range is for slowing enemies

she applies the healing to all allies no matter the distance

[minor furnace]

that's huge then and the wording is kinda shit

cuz this wording definitely seems to imply the healing only happens in the circle

https://i.imgur.com/gCLSWqM.png

but that means i should go get s1 daphne too

[rain drift]

join us

finally

but now i got so much fucking farming to do man

oh my gawd

guess ima start with getting daphnee truffle and psyche and their weapons 70

good lordy

[rain drift]

hoo man

leveling characters is expensive now jesus christ

[rain drift]

oh god

we need sharpening potions for next skill levels

[feral girder]

[rain drift]

hmm

at least its only 2

levels 8 to 10

[slate current]

some guy said

you can make guns shoot faster by holding right click and spamming left

not sure if real

might be useful if you have some onhit passive

[umbral narwhal]

my fellow nihonjin

which one is yapanese

🤓

unplayable otherwise

[slate current]

top to bottom

chinese, english, japanese, korean

[umbral narwhal]

ty bb

[minor furnace]

https://i.imgur.com/SjpaUa4.jpeg

[slate current]

[slate current]

Apparently

Hellfires Punitive Inferno only scales off base HP or some shit

Which means it does piss

Also i get why you take -60 damage for multishot wedge

200% multishot means +200%

So its triple.shots

Net 20% damage gain on a multiplier that isnt saturated

[slate current]

Heres a weekly bounty map from reddit

You can supposedly ignotr thr box and bumrush boss

[fossil nest]

so all u have to do is kill boss

lol

[slate current]

Apparently

I will try later

[slate current]

my guildmate has a bunch of golds

the inspo gold is obtainable somehow

i think from lv80 targeted wedge farm

[fossil nest]

wheils . . .

holy 32% eff tho

[slate current]

ok

i cleared weekly 80 in pug

i just need one other person to come with me to kill elite with someone else watch chest

[sharp dawn]

who you pub with

[fossil nest]

mi

[sharp dawn]

fa

[slate current]

literally randoms

i play lynn

probably psyche or a boss killer is better

ok

the reaosn you want to multi

you know the guy with super armor that bum rushes your chest

what you do is you have two people

bodyblock him into a wall

and hten he cant get to the cehst

so its just me and this other lynn ulting point blank

blocking the guy

while the other 2 guard the chest

not guaranteed 3

i got 3 3 2 this week

[feral girder]

there're guilds?

[sharp dawn]

irl guild

[fossil nest]

he a stonemason

[slate current]

i mean there is a lodge like 20 minutes from my place

[sharp dawn]

i mean the characters, because i kinda dont want to play with Rebecca

[slate current]

i queued into sib lynn becca

they are probably 80 tho

so its free for them

cuz im like full blasting the boss and shit

one of the ends creens

it said i did 4%

[rain drift]

[slate current]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/s/nCPDeqs3JD

[fossil nest]

huge monthly pass bugg

buff

[feral girder]

seems nice

[woeful plinth]

cool i guess

[rain drift]

buff? hmm

Integrating a third-party detection tool in an upcoming build to better identify cheating.

hmm

hopefully it isnt one of those shitty programs that thinks everyone is cheating lol

damn

actual feed back from devs

stella sora could never

[fossil nest]

nyo dismantle or capture for demon wedges all evening

[rain drift]

[fossil nest]

i actually have so many wedges i need to craft but im being held back

[sharp dawn]

why does it feel like the polearm dash is slow in coop

[fossil nest]

it straight up doesnt work for me half the time cuz of coop lag

[sharp dawn]

oh is that why, ye same here lmao

[slate current]

yeah the lag stops it

also its a bit slower the animation

it feels like

[rain drift]

i seen the pole arm stuff but tbh id rather just fly lol

[woeful plinth]

which BP pet should I get

[sharp dawn]

pet for your waifu

[woeful plinth]

[fossil nest]

daz rite

which iz y i got lisbell pet

[sharp dawn]

the most insanely built character you have 💪

[fossil nest]

iz psyche . . .

[rain drift]

bow to your queen

[woeful plinth]

dismantle on character

[fossil nest]

15k . . .

[sharp dawn]

[keen ibex]

wtf how r u 59

im barely 51

bruhhhh

[fossil nest]

ai m a grinda

[slate current]

did you craft any of the 80 gold wedges

do they give a lot of xp

[fossil nest]

erm

u mean golds or like the lv80 farm ones ?

[slate current]

either

[fossil nest]

i have been

[slate current]

how much exp is it each

[fossil nest]

its 200 per

[slate current]

i dont wanna craft the 70 ones cuz theyre kinda shit

[fossil nest]

200 extra per for crafting a set

[slate current]

but might have to

[fossil nest]

all the golds give the same exp

[slate current]

damn 15k for one level is kinda insane

[sharp dawn]

whats the mat for amplifying gold wedge

[fossil nest]

i actually cant speed up my levelling either anymore rly

[sharp dawn]

still purple?

[fossil nest]

since im toilet paper capped

wdym amplyfying

[slate current]

dupe

gold wedge

lol

[sharp dawn]

[slate current]

you need 5 more gold wedges

how many weapons/frames do you have to be 59

[fossil nest]

its 10 more gold wedges

erm lemme check

daz mi stats

[slate current]

wtf

you have 15

does that count dupe wepaons

[woeful plinth]

grinding whale

[rain drift]

did it

[fossil nest]

idk if that coutns wep dupes

[rain drift]

thank god

[fossil nest]

mi nyot whale

[rain drift]

gonna do the other stages now see if i can get her i2

[fossil nest]

not that i have dupe weps

[rain drift]

didnt even have the extra wedges just blasted her ass

[fossil nest]

unironically i might go back to grinding weps cuz weps give more exp per secret letter 🥀

[slate current]

do they actually

i think they do but theyre so expensive to upgrade

[fossil nest]

ye its just expensive af to upgrade + craft

wedges are 400exp per 10 toilet paper thingies roughly

[fossil nest]

weps are way more per 10 cuz u can get 1 wep drop and upgrade it like 5 times

[slate current]

it doesnt count dupes

[fossil nest]

i think

im gonna do the abyss grind thingy first

i dont think i can mentally handle spam grinding weapons like i did when i was pushing 55

erm maze not abyss

[slate current]

i bought all the green wedges

not blues yet

for the exp

im probably gonna weapon spam

still have the 99 cent selector for a free one

probably i uncap all the stuff i own

see how far i get

and then push weapons

[fossil nest]

oh yea

i forgor about the selector wep

[woeful plinth]

got a hellfire,nilf, and lynn dupe

good progress

[rain drift]

working on i2 psyche rn

should be able to get her real soon if rng doesnt fuck me super hard

[feral girder]

only stage 12 letters left to get

[rain drift]

can def finish this later 2 nite

just felt like trying since i had psyche at 70 and maxed her skills

got 30 more tickets can def i2 her now i think

i2 dream is real

i3 dream might be real?!

i got 20 tickets left

[fossil nest]

wut da

[sharp dawn]

modsss

[woeful plinth]

this one wedge is pissing me off

just DROP

[fossil nest]

man so

u know those wedges u can equip dupes of

u cant equip gold and purple at the same time

only full gold or full purple

[woeful plinth]

get to farming

[fossil nest]

thats so retarded

[rain drift]

yeah thats retarded lol

i guess cause it says

'' the same''

[fossil nest]

yea they have identical names too

only thing diff is rarity but i guess thats enough to be not the same

[rain drift]

so tldr make all golds at the same time

or gg

?????????????

4 more for i3

[feral girder]

https://tenor.com/view/tata-mpo-gif-15942038246373310601

[fossil nest]

mots

[rain drift]

58

i can get 4 more tickets from the last stage

[woeful plinth]

OOOOOOO

I GOT IT

FINALLY

FUCK YOU

[rain drift]

gonna i2 her and see if its enough

[woeful plinth]

back to farming defense stage wedges

so if I have a wedge blueprint

i can just craft that wedge forever right

[rain drift]

what is a primemander

25% less dmg when they out

[woeful plinth]

the elites

[rain drift]

i figured it was the mobs with that like crown icon

but in the last stage they spawn like fucking 10 of them

at the same fucking time

you cant keep up with the DR cuz u have to focus them down

[feral girder]

1 blueprint 1 wedge

like weapons

[woeful plinth]

i'm not doing this

you're telling me

people are dumping all their letters

to max out one golden

[fossil nest]

ye but not worth fo sure

[woeful plinth]

okay whatever

i'm 53 now

power to 55 and then i'll go get psyche

[rain drift]

LETS GO

[fossil nest]

wut da wheil

[woeful plinth]

dev account

[rain drift]

i might be like one of the only f2p people with i3 psyche lmao

[feral girder]

you probably get all chars first and stuff

unless you want giga invest into someone

[rain drift]

this is so huge holy shit

[woeful plinth]

yeah thats what I was planning

[rain drift]

do we know for a fact that next theatre is gonna be lumino focused with that 400% dmg

[fossil nest]

if its fina next probably

itll probs be lumino+1 other element too

[rain drift]

ye

gonna prob gear up nifle team

[fossil nest]

maybe dark ?

[rain drift]

i guess id use uhh

nifle lisbel and daphnee or some shit

then swap her to fina

i have a feeling if i let AI use psyche shed act like a retard lol

[fossil nest]

4k out of 15.6k done

time to call it a night

[rain drift]

did it

theatre finished

[fossil nest]

but u gotta keep going for the 10 points . . .

[rain drift]

im doing the last stage now

idk why its even there

[fossil nest]

thats nyot da last

ive seen it go to stage 16 so far

[rain drift]

so what ur saying

is the i4 dream is real

[fossil nest]

well no

cuz the subsequent ones dont give letters

just like 10-20 of the event points lmao

[rain drift]

game suk

[feral girder]

is it enough to clear shop

shit doesn't give enough

[fossil nest]

nah defs not

[feral girder]

they had that gacha reward shit

when later rewards is nothing basically

[rain drift]

fuck the shop lol

like im not farming to get the wedges

if like previous stages dont give the currency

yeah they dont

so im not bothering with the rest at least not for like 2 weeks lol

[minor furnace]

https://i.imgur.com/S4JXk81.png

can you only craft 3 at a time or what?

[fossil nest]

monE ?

[minor furnace]

wait nvm it's the gold i'm fucking poor

[fossil nest]

lmao ye

[minor furnace]

bruh why's that shit so expensive wtf

they rly need to do something about these crafting costs

it's like 80k per and to make the purple shit i believe it's like 10k per so that's another 80k

[fossil nest]

well if the 10k mystic maze points per run at lv60 is true

[minor furnace]

all that cuz they couldn't just put track shifts in the store so i could p2w them like in warframe

[fossil nest]

youll be earning 1mil in 15mins so hopefully it wont be an issue by then

also there are track shifts in store no ?

[minor furnace]

yeah one pack per month

that have 4

that's chump change

[fossil nest]

oh

[minor furnace]

it's crazy cuz the equivalent in warframe is easily their best seller

so it's so wild that they didn't even put that in the shop

[rain drift]

character track shifts is the real bottle neck

honestly its such a pile of shit its the only thing i dislike really

[slate current]

Which gold wedges are secret letter

Is it any of the good ones

[feral girder]

most of them

some from weekly

[rain drift]

the bounty?

[slate current]

I thought the good ones are 80 bpunty

[feral girder]

[minor furnace]

is there a way to highlight elites or something? i can't tell who the fuck is an elite when there's a whole ass room of mobs

[slate current]

Nope

[minor furnace]

well that's mildly annoying

[slate current]

you can notice it easily

theyre the ones that dont die quickly when youre aoeing

[minor furnace]

since they give tons of dr, none of them die quickly

[feral girder]

they have mark near health bar

rather small

[minor furnace]

oh yeah i see it

but that is rly hard to catch yeah

[slate current]

the DR only applies for theatre

you kinda just have to brute force chump through it

[rain drift]

what would u say is better as point char for light team

lsibel or nifle

trying to build lumino for next theatre rn

[slate current]

idk

[minor furnace]

the big thing is that nifle does both lumino and umbro damage

[slate current]

i would go nifle if i had to build one

but lis gets more free shards

[minor furnace]

so in theatre if it's not both, then your dmg will get lowered

[slate current]

but currently nifle damage ceiling is like

proabbly 10x higher than lis

idk if the bow thing is intended or a bug cuz if they change it nif bossing ceiling plummets

[feral girder]

lisbel, nifle, and someone else

prolly fina

[rain drift]

yeah i know im talking about who to put on point

if nifle does umbra as well i wonder if that would fuck with her damage in theatre

cause 400 / -50

[feral girder]

probably won't much

can use her as support anyway

she has gather and debuffs and atk buff

[rain drift]

yeah im thinking on what dupes to spend on basically

lisbel rn is i2 cuz mystic maze stuff

also cuz ima use track shifts too so whoever i use em on needs to be like THE character lol

[minor furnace]

ok that ended up being rly hard and then suddenly rly easy

https://i.imgur.com/qJdm4N0.jpeg

i was stuck on trial 4 for like a good minute and then suddenly i guess i got lucky or got a good start and i was able to get a progress on the bar

maybe elite spawned later or something iunno lol

[rain drift]

yep

after act 6

[minor furnace]

boss itself was free

[rain drift]

its baby mode

mobs are always the issue too fr

[woeful plinth]

didnt you say there was a bug with one stage having lvl 85 mobs or something

[minor furnace]

think that was intendedn

https://i.imgur.com/5CdboC7.png

i guess i'm spending money

[rain drift]

her 4th intron is kinda dookie tbh

the DR is ok but its kinda w/e

[minor furnace]

it's not about the dr

it's about the increased pickup range and no more interruption

that means way comfier flying and i can face tank instead of needing to dodge

cuz for some reason, being way above their atks and melee range still means they can stagger you

giga qol tbh

[rain drift]

ah i guess

then 5 is skill levels then 6 is pen

ima def max her once she moves to weekly but im stuck at i3 for now unless i whale

ran outa gold now fuck me lol

leveling chars to 70+ skills blew 2m

gotta farm gold now i hate it here

[slate current]

Its about the trial rank exp

[minor furnace]

i bought my first psyche which is why i managed to get to i3 and close to i4

but if you remove it then i would've been i2 and 22 shards, so still pretty lucky but not as lucky as nevia

i want that qol though. i'm lazy so i want to be able to facetank without getting staggered and be able to pick shit up easier

so i'll get those final shards too i guess

[minor furnace]

hell yeah bby +2% multishot, big gains

https://i.imgur.com/JQCL4dw.png

[slate current]

Wtf gimme

[minor furnace]

can't you basically get it yourself in like 10 minutes of doing maze?

or did you spend all your currency alrdy?

[slate current]

whered you get the bp

[minor furnace]

the store lol

it's just in there for 7.5k

[slate current]

also im not 60 so i cant get 10k ar un

[minor furnace]

well if you don't mind a bit of grind you can just farm like 1.4k every run

cuz the resources are unlimited

but yeah if you've alrdy spend all your weekly resources it's a long grind

does it rly go all the way from like 1.4 to 1.5k to 10k?

so uh do you need to amplify the letter gold wedges too?

surely they don't expect you to spend like 600 letters on average to get a single fully amplified wedge that you'd then have to farm another like 4 or 5 times right?

[slate current]

capture up for characters

[sharp dawn]

tr60

[minor furnace]

yeah that sure is a lot more

ok so yeah they do expect you to just spend on average 600 letters on a single amplified wedge

only 3000 letters to gear 1 character, light work

[slate current]

yeah it would be nice

if we could do challenge

when you still need TR

instead of locking it after

[slate current]

mons supposedly respawn the next day on failed catch and in 3 days on success

[minor furnace]

i still think not being able to have the copy paste wedges on gold sttack with purple is a huge mistake

what were they thinkin with that

so if you ever decide hey i'm gonna go get the atk/skill dmg gold wedges for psyche, either you get all golds at once, or you don't even bother

that is just so dumb

surely that is just an oversight

[minor furnace]

can you ask your buddy what the bp for that requires ? i'm slowly running out of things to actually afk farm cuz all the good stuff is mostly active like gold so if the stuff you need is easy to afk i might as well prep that

[woeful plinth]

it feels like it to me

[minor furnace]

probably, this game did come in hot so there's so many issues, oversights and bugs still

[minor furnace]

sheesh sybille rly liked me

https://i.imgur.com/e9OLhgc.png

[trail temple]

Welcome to Sibylle club

[minor furnace]

i'm not planning on staying i just got her for collection, i don't rly have the resources to i6 her and she's gonna have to get in line

i like her design but ngl her skills seem pretty boring to me

her ult with the orb in specific just doesn't rly seem all that fun to me

[fossil nest]

im guessing the mints used to craft pokemon food also respawn in 3 days

cuz theyre not there for me either rn

thats nice ngl

[slate current]

she just doesnt do dmg

[slate current]

Multishot seems to not work with c weapon

It just boost dmg instead of multishot so stacking procs dont trigger any faster

[slate current]

dismantle in character shard

one hour

[fossil nest]

if only i could afford any letters

[slate current]

-500k

give me TR

[fossil nest]

erm

is there any reason to pick tetherlash over pyrothrist besides proficiency ?

[rain drift]

[fossil nest]

-800k

[rain drift]

wuts the top 1 for

oh skill duration? aight

rendhusk is decent too but i wonder if 60% attack outweighs 24% skill dmg

[sharp dawn]

how to play Psyche

[rain drift]

wdym

go ac130 and blow it up

her skill is now a ranged nuke too

[sharp dawn]

ooo

[rain drift]

[sharp dawn]

how about her E forsenE

when should i use it

[rain drift]

her skill like i said its just a nuke now

shoots out hella shit at enemy

[sharp dawn]

ogey

[fossil nest]

for psyche rendhusk does outweight 24% skill dmg

because she has a lot of sources of skill dmg

[rain drift]

she do ye

im missing 1 wedge and she still has 250 skill

what about in general tho for the rest of the cast?

seems that skill dmg is just the way to go

[fossil nest]

for every other skill dmg user the pistols with skill dmg is the way ye

[rain drift]

why is it diff for psyche ?

[fossil nest]

she just has way more skill dmg than atk %

[rain drift]

yeah

well she also has the 114% wedge

so shes closer to like 400 skill almost

rn im working on lisbel gonna get her to 70

notice that skills are bottle necked by weekly boss

for 6-8

which kinda sucks ngl cuz now u gotta pick if u wanna try and farm a new character or skill levels

shoulda been somewhere else tbh

[fossil nest]

can u dye the ult wings on psyche

[rain drift]

pretty sure u cant dye skills

[fossil nest]

ggs

i probs wont dye her outfit i guess then

[rain drift]

i was gonna do her outfit soon-ish but idk what color scheme i want

u can use the uhh

standard currency i think? to dye stuff

[fossil nest]

yea but if her ult wings dont change color

its gonna look ugle if its not default color lmao

[rain drift]

o ye

if u wanna afk in town tho and show off might be worth lol

[trail temple]

early game for sure, but trial rank gives like 400% atk later on

[rain drift]

it does sure

65 is 300%

60 also 150

[woeful plinth]

is the roguelike mode's boss always the same on a specific stage

mystic maze

[rain drift]

i think its random? but honestly aint paid attention 2 it

since they die in 2 seconds lol

[woeful plinth]

i keep on getting hellfire as lynn

its annoying

[slate current]

apparently bossing lynn is not ult build

you just multishot your dualies

and spam E

[woeful plinth]

the worst part of this mystic maze

is taking an event

and getting the cannon

[rain drift]

i dont take the events

i just do the stages lol

id rather kill 50-70 mobs then talk to the npc

[woeful plinth]

maybe i'll stop once ig et all the entries

way easier when its not hellfire

[slate current]

i take events every time

its worth risking hitting cannon

also i think the average value of items you get is more than the dust from fighting stages

[rain drift]

i just wanna get through the thing is all lol

i just need like 1 or 2 damage mods and its fine

[feral girder]

I think they should add skill effect changes at some point

[minor furnace]

Maybe not for i6 https://old.rxddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1opx3xq/using_lisbell_strats_on_lynn/

[feral girder]

Although polishing current state of the game or whatever next update is much higher prio

[feral girder]

what saws do?

[minor furnace]

Proc laceration rly fast

Cuz high hits per second

[slate current]

what the fuck is that chainsaw

is it in the shop

i think the important part is that its lingering

[minor furnace]

Probably a weekly weapon

[slate current]

you can proabbly instastack fast with minigun but minigun doesnt linger

[minor furnace]

All the weapons with special effects seem to be weeklies lol

[slate current]

so basically theyre 30 bucks

ok

not an issue

[minor furnace]

So yeah new i6 lynn tech

Seems rly big tbh

[feral girder]

I want weekly bow

[minor furnace]

I bought it lol

[slate current]

i might buy the chainsaw and do bow next week

[minor furnace]

Had no attempts and that bow is a gamechanger for i6 nifle

[slate current]

if it doesnt get nerfed im proabbly doing i6 nifle next but first i need to hit 60

[minor furnace]

I need to do lynn i6 now

Not enough secret letters though

[slate current]

id put that for last

TR more important

[minor furnace]

Wonder how they're gonna approach busted stuff that was probably not intended like lynn i6 chainsaw and potentially bow nifle

[slate current]

ignore it unless it actually breaks the game

[minor furnace]

Nerfing wouls feel shit if you spend letters on i6

[slate current]

do you really wanna go handing out refunds

[minor furnace]

I mean they could nerf and not give refunds lmao

Warframe does that

[slate current]

yeah thats why theyre shit

[trail temple]

based

[minor furnace]

Idk if i'd go that far

[slate current]

the current wf players are like mmo players

they are shit eaters

wf will do retarded shit and it doesnt matter

[minor furnace]

Then what are gacha players? The dirt in the shit that gets eaten?

[slate current]

depends

if youre chinese you have sway

if youre western yeah

youre a shit eater

if youre korean you also have sway

if youre japanese

shit eater

[minor furnace]

Koreans only have sway in like the few games korea makes

And most of then probablt don't even rly care about korean players

[slate current]

yeah namely the ones they play

infinitely better than western gacha players basically being 2nd class in every game

[minor furnace]

But yeah they're still shit eaters because the only thing they get upset about is pinched finger instead of some better shit to get mad about

[slate current]

better that than no sway at all

additionally its actually a big deal in their culture

better than western cucked culture

look at what that got us

[minor furnace]

Yeah cuz they let it become a big deal for being bitches

Cuz being upset about that is such a big self own

[slate current]

all this "tolerance" nonsense got us canada eu progressing towards third world country

so yes, the east is correct in making a big stink about it

give an inch lose your country

[minor furnace]

They're doing plenty of that too by ruining birth rates

[slate current]

they already have enough problems without being tolerant if they follow the west as well the country will collapse

you say that like that isnt also a thing in the west

[minor furnace]

Bigger of an issue yes absolutely

[slate current]

bigger of an issue in the west

[minor furnace]

Explain

[slate current]

we dont have welfare systems that can only operate via a pyramid scheme

*they dont

its a bigger problem for the west as proven through how aggressively the west has taken in migrants as compared to eastern countries

[minor furnace]

And yet it's still something they're much more desperately trying to fix and failing hard at it in kr and japan

[slate current]

because its not a fix

its destroying the country

population increase = always good is retarded propaganda

[minor furnace]

It's not about increasing it, it's about maintaining it so you don't get an aging population

[slate current]

the aging population is only a problem because welfare systems act as a pyramid scheme

if your social security or countrys equivalent paid you out based on what YOU yourself put in instead of paying out previous generations

you would not have this problem

for the us the entire problem has been created because one generation decided to give themselves this benefit for free

[minor furnace]

It's not just about the pat though, it's about people

[slate current]

it really isnt

its all economic

[minor furnace]

Elder ppl often times need care, if there's tons of elder ppl and not a bunch of younger ppl then they can't take care of them

[slate current]

why are they not self sufficient

if thats really a big deal

[minor furnace]

Becausr they're fucking old

[slate current]

and you know why that isnt a big problem in eastern culture

because people live in multigenerational households

much more common

[minor furnace]

But it is a big deal, japan is literally seeing it as a big deal

[feral girder]

Are most cultures in east like that?

[slate current]

its a problem because they cant afford elder care

again

pyramid scheme running out of money

must always put fresh fish in

elder care is not a problem even if youre old and dont live with kids/grandkids if you can afford elder care

it is an economics problem

[slate current]

much more common that west

kicking out your kids at 18 or just them heading out at 18 was much mroe common in west when it was affordable

[minor furnace]

It's also a problem cuz there's not less and less ppl to go around anymore to take care of them either

[slate current]

but even then it was not common in the east

[minor furnace]

And an even bigger problen in rural parts of the country

[slate current]

thats still an economics problem

i see this argument brought up all the time regarding returning manufacturing to the states

its not that no one wants to do it

its no one wants to do it for pisslow wages

[minor furnace]

At some point it becomes so dire it turns into a ppl problem too

[slate current]

lack of infrastructure in rural parts of the country is a government incentive problem

[feral girder]

I think it's pretty common in post soviet states as well, due to how cities and households were structured

[slate current]

if you gave tax breaks for establishing businesses in tier 2/3 towns and cities signficant enough

you wouldnt have literally every fucking company in silicon valley stuck in the one geographical area

[minor furnace]

Also common in latin america and somd parts of europe

[slate current]

you want to know what else is actually an economic problem

birth rates

[minor furnace]

Birth rates lowering is also a problem primarily in first world countries because other things start taking priority

[slate current]

for the more current generations (younger than 50)

most common reasons in order: dont want to, focus on other things, state of the world, cannot afford

[minor furnace]

Because the poor regions obviously have the higher number of birthrates/couple

[slate current]

because you need kids to do the mainly physical labor required to survive

why rural/agricultural communities have more kids

you need kids to help on farm

[minor furnace]

Yeah ergo they don't have or can't afford reason 1, 2 and 3

[feral girder]

Duet Night Political

[slate current]

yeah because in the first world you need more money to "survive"

the quality of life at the poverty line in the west is still much higher than that of non 1st world

[minor furnace]

Yeah and that qol improvement directly affects it too as you said in reasons 1 through 3

So quite clearly there are a lot of other reasons why ppl don't have children outside of just money

[slate current]

sure but the fact of the matter is affordability is one of if not the factor that is becoming more common

as compared to prior generations

when we had less people in the country

[minor furnace]

In korea that'd be cuz of gender politics influencing it too, and in japan because of an awfum work environment

The most important one is probably "no time"

[slate current]

for people 50 and above

count not afford was 7th on the list

as compared to 4th for below 50

[feral girder]

aren't both countries corporate hell

[minor furnace]

Gotta work work work

[slate current]

you say that like its not a problem for the west

instead of work work work its i aint got a job to work

the whole independent contractor playbook to not give you benefits

say what you will about the problems of a single national exam basically deciding whether or not youre hireable, its a objective metric that is considered and students have guidance as to what they need to do to become hireable while in study

[minor furnace]

I think unemployment rates in eurolpe havd been mostly relatively stable

[slate current]

the rate is not the problem

the problem is who is getting the jobs

its no secret that its hiring for fresh grads has only gotten worse

[rain drift]

https://tenor.com/view/duet-night-abyss-dna-ballroom-outfit-skin-psyche-gif-596738720343048635

[slate current]

but in the us outside of covid and the 08 recession the unemployment rates have also always been stable

even now

[minor furnace]

The easiest way you can sadly fix youth unemployment is by giving more benefitd for hiring young ppl

[slate current]

yes

its a money problem

you know whats hiding this issue

all the foreign labor imported to suppress the actual unemployment rate

[minor furnace]

But the only thing made clear here is that actually koreans do eat shit too cuz everyone in the world is eating shit right now

[slate current]

not as much as the west

not even close

you want to see a funny thing about who cares about the kids as compared to the elderly

overall poverty rate:
US: 17.8
Korea: 15.3

Elderly US: ~10.8
Elderly KR: ~43.4

Child US: ~30.0
Child KR: 11.5

[woeful plinth]

yeah so anyway

thats why they're shit eaters

[slate current]

i would posit that a culture that prioritizies its youth, aka its future, over its elderly is superior than one that does the opposite

[minor furnace]

Where'd that 30 come from

[rain drift]

y'all need adult supervision

[slate current]

thats actually wrong number from my notes

30 is for minorities

its ~18 for 2020 which is the year for the kr stats

[minor furnace]

Maybe if we get those kr child numbers up, they'll complain about the predatory practices or abhorrent rates and bad monetization systems instead

[rain drift]

child labor force!

[minor furnace]

https://imgur.com/NzTkolu hopefully i get some goood ones anytime soon

[rain drift]

everyone to 70 that matters

now i have to do weapons fuck me

[slate current]

Does the mine respawn every day or 3 days

The one for making mon food

[fossil nest]

wut is mine

oh u mean the rocks ?

i think theyre every 3 days too

i checked for the past two days after i farmed pokemons and they didnt respawn lol

[slate current]

Damn

[fossil nest]

out of letters. . . .

i guess its finalyl time to hit the mystic maze grind

[fossil nest]

nvm found another source of letters . . . .

time to rizzmaxx

[sharp dawn]

aboba

[fossil nest]

hao cum i cant rizz lisbell

[rain drift]

what menu is this crap on ?

[fossil nest]

inside sanctuary

[rain drift]

ah ok

i aint been in there in like 2 week

[fossil nest]

maint at reset

[rain drift]

gay

did they say how long

dont see any notice on twitter

ran my last ticket for another BP for psyches wep lol

guess im makin another dupe

[fossil nest]

ggs

[rain drift]

the maint says its gonna be '' quick''

hrm

[slate current]

when is the reset

well maint

[fossil nest]

1.1hrs

[slate current]

k i can get in the next hour

if its good modes again

[rain drift]

ima just spam some bullshit i need gold

i got like

6 weapons to make

• dupes

• FUCK

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[slate current]

gold farming is way faster in multi

more bats spawn

[fossil nest]

bat chest

[slate current]

why do you get less gold wave6

than 5

it like resets

yeah multi was 8m 11s for 5 waves

[fossil nest]

it resets

[slate current]

why

[fossil nest]

for some reason levels dont reset

[slate current]

[fossil nest]

its aids

idk

"infinite"

but not rly

[slate current]

3 green 2 blue books for like 400kish

not too bad

all the TR exp is backloaded for ascensions it feels like

1-5 gives piss compared to 60 to 70 ascend

[fossil nest]

yes

i think 60 to 70 gives more exp than 1-60 in total lmao

[slate current]

wack

you dont get shit for leveling to 70 right

i just do 60 and uncap and leave it unless im using it

[fossil nest]

yea i just leave at 60 unless using

i gues when u hit character lv60 weps at 70 will be ready to ascend but

more efficient to grind the mats at char 60 instead tbh

[rain drift]

maint in 30 ye

[fossil nest]

should be

[rain drift]

gonnna do 1 or 2 more maze run then

[fossil nest]

wait

[rain drift]

waiting

[fossil nest]

the mail said 4pm utc +8

and its 5:30pm rn

so did it happen already ?

[rain drift]

erm

daylight saving ? idk

im dum

[fossil nest]

idk

i think they devs meant to put 6pm

but wrote 16:00 maybe

which would make sense cuz thats reset time

or maybe the maint really was that quick

[rain drift]

so reset like not in 20 mins

[cobalt terrace]

@rain drift has leveled up! (66 ➜ 67)

[rain drift]

next reset

[fossil nest]

no reset is in 20 mins

but maint was supposedly 1hr40mins ago

so idk

[rain drift]

erm

ngl i should spend 1 day like 4h or something just spamming maze for like 10m gold

just so i dont need 2 worry bout ti for awhile

[sharp dawn]

what does reset mean

just forced logout?

[rain drift]

daily reset

[sharp dawn]

[fossil nest]

i guess da maint alredE happened

[rain drift]

yippie

tryna farm rendhusk rn so i can let it craft while im out today

forgot ranged weps need

bullets or w/e for crafting not potions augh

[fossil nest]

as soon as i saw the first half of that

i knew u were gonna say that

[rain drift]

it cool its crafting rn

thankfully i have an insane amount of luno coins from farming the 55+ skill mat stage etc

[fossil nest]

ye its pretty nice

[rain drift]

gold is actually the real issue now it feels

im gonna spend 1 day farming a shit load of gold i swear lol

[fossil nest]

fr

[rain drift]

maze gets me 170-200k a run and it takes like idk

like 5-10 mins somewhere in there a run

if gold stage wasnt only exca id be way better its so bad even with books its only 40k a wave

and it takes so long lol

[woeful plinth]

even though its longer defence is kind of nice for secret letter farming

[rain drift]

i do serum or something

[fossil nest]

is there defence for gold farming ?

[rain drift]

no

only exca

[fossil nest]

grrrr

[rain drift]

they knew ppl would hate it and make it tedious af

thats why its exca only lol

people really rather do mystic maze runs just for gold

[woeful plinth]

okay lynn i4 now

[rain drift]

are u trying for 6?

id prep for next theatre rn if u still have letters tbh

[woeful plinth]

whens the next theatre

[rain drift]

im prob gonna spend a bunch on nifle

3 week

we suspect it to be light/dark

[woeful plinth]

we'll see

i've just been focused on unlocking characters

probably will stay i4 for now

[fossil nest]

honestly know the devs

[rain drift]

in anycase get lisbel and nifle ready for combat lol

[woeful plinth]

if I have spares maybe I go i6

[fossil nest]

it might be light/electric

[rain drift]

dat be dum

[fossil nest]

to incentivise people to get rhythm

[rain drift]

but still ok

if its light/dark nifle will blast it

[woeful plinth]

how many dupes is required for nifle

[fossil nest]

ye which is why im kinda doubting itll be bofa

[rain drift]

i think 6 lol

she requires hella investment

or u can just put lisbel on point

[woeful plinth]

lisbel it is then

[rain drift]

nifle can still mob for u and shit also +50 atk

[fossil nest]

yea nifle is basically i6 or mid

[rain drift]

idk about lisbel tho she sounds slow

like needing to charge her shit and all that when u gotta kill 160 mobs in 1 min

[fossil nest]

charge time isnt an issue

the large number of mobs gets u to combo lv4 in like 4 hits lol

[rain drift]

what does that even do tho

[fossil nest]

giga daamge

[rain drift]

thats it ?

[fossil nest]

idk i dun reed kits

[rain drift]

like it doesnt change how she plays?

[fossil nest]

[rain drift]

hrm

[fossil nest]

more atk range in general

giga dmg for her charge atk

[rain drift]

id need to see how she does vs mobs

[fossil nest]

shes pre goog imo

when iwas using her pre psyche/lynn floors

she was on par with rebecca for mobbing

[rain drift]

ye im just thinking of the time limit for mobs stages

[fossil nest]

so u know

also her elite kill speed is way better cuz her st dmg is good too

shes literally just the lumino version of psyche/lynn imo

but nifle is just as good too from what ive played

[rain drift]

idk if she can be similar to psyche

psyche does things man

man i got like 20 weapons to get to 70 too i hate it here oh my god lmao

[woeful plinth]

ALERT

all coverts are dismantle

[fossil nest]

omaigotto

nao keep it laik dat perma

[rain drift]

nice lol

was my 2nd one

[slate current]

o shit

time to farm out a few wp bps

i copied a build for dismantle i saw

which was just giga range lynn

melee charge up to center and just ult all 3

but some tilesets have bad LOS so you cant

so its kinda a crapshoot if you get a 15s clear or 30

[rain drift]

i dont think i evern done a dismantle yet

ah i see

did that shit in like 10 seconds on psyche lol

[fossil nest]

if u fail a catch does a new pokemon spawn

or will the same one just keep spawning till caught

[slate current]

1 day respawn

iirc

[fossil nest]

as the same one ?

[rain drift]

oh so its 24h from when u attempt to catch

thought they was on reset

[fossil nest]

idk

i feel like on reset would make sense but beats me

why does every fucking melee weapon want the grip component

i have like 100 of everything else

omgbruh

[rain drift]

real

ima be spending like today n tmr uncapping my weapons

then finally ima farm nifle dupes and shit

[slate current]

ok

you actually do more bossing dmg on lynn

by just

shooting once into E

ok level 102 is too big a gap

[fossil nest]

[rain drift]

102 what?

what are u running

[fossil nest]

immersive theatre would be my guess

[rain drift]

oh hmm

even with i6 lynn tahts crazy

[fossil nest]

holy