Limbus Company

[dawn spire]

by not making it very clear that either not getting dialogues 3 was a fail state, or at least that there wasnt magically going to be another way to get it later

because 300 shield was just enough to make me go, maybe this is intended

||like gasharpoon shield||

[fickle surge]

||it would be fine if the overall fight wasnt so long with cutscenes inbetween. like if that phase was a separate fight then it doesnt feel so bad if you dont 'get it' and just play slower because of it||

||but then it ruins the tension if you try to split it so its hard to do||

[dawn spire]

||like 4 unbreakable coins is 100% fine if you just need to do his hp, but its not when hes getting a gasharpoon shield every turn, and I think some complaints are due to that, like people doing the fight unintended and not understanding its not supposed to be like that||

||like maybe some other coin power buff on jia because you didnt get it, its just not at all clear unless you did the classic ok new phase ill just read everything now, which sure if thats how its going to be I guess it do be like that||

[fickle surge]

||even so 2 stacks is enough to clash/tank the 4 coin hit even at lvl 50||

[dawn spire]

||no like if you make it into the last phase with 2 stacks he just permanently gets his 300 shield||

||or like its not thats its impossible to get it past it, hong lu even gets a res buff, its just when you make it into the last phase and he keeps getting the 300 shield, it becomes a game of attrition and unbreakables eventually win because its a dps race to chip||

||and because you can make it to the last phase with dialogues 2 its not clear that its not intended to be done with the shield or you arent going to get an opportunity later in the fight to get more of the buff, if he got like 600 per dialogues or like clearly was getting +2 coin power for you not being at 3, it makes it way more clear that hey I kinda fucked myself I should not be here with the current buffs I have||

||like when you first clash his boyou answer me, it should read DO NOT MISS THIS CLASH, because it effectively makes the rest of the fight like that||

[fickle surge]

||i'm just specifically saying the unbreakables arent an issue. 2 stacks of dialogue is enough to clash and tank the two unbreakable skills that get used each turn. lets say hypothetically you cant use hong lu to do it, eventually you'll be able to as he gets more skill slots.
aside from that everything else you're saying is valid given the context||

[dawn spire]

||but like not enough to finish the fight imo, because he keeps getting the 300 shield every turn, idk again I think just some of this unbreakable are too hard are specifically because people ended up in the same position I was in, and went its horseshit to be getting chipped when he keeps getting a shield but yeah hes not meant to be getting that shield||

||or like maybe if hong lu got dialogues no matter what, clash win, clash lose, evade||

[fickle surge]

||right but that doesnt mean unbreakables are the issue. it means the dialogue stack mechanic is the issue. again unbreakables are fine if you're doing the mechanic and even with just 2 its fine||

[lone plover]

man this conversation would be interesting

I wish I could read

[fickle surge]

well its real easy for you to play it

because they nerfed part 2

so almost everything we're talking about doesnt apply anyway

[dawn spire]

||yeah that is the point im making, I think some people got into a state they shouldnt have because dialogues is poorly explained and not unbreakables and I think KJH jumped the gun on blaming unbreakables||

||because people in those positions arent going to be blaming the mechanic they dont know about, but the one thats chipping them||

||then again the post implies they changed more than the last fight, I deff had sinners die to them before the last fight, but thats the whole point of being able to use the chain battle mechanic, so maybe people also just complain about them in general||

[lone plover]

the last fight is kinda fucked if you don't have the right ego setup e.g. being able to spam healing egos

other than that it's not bad at all

[dawn spire]

These were the nerfs

it was -1 coin power per dialogues

People were also saying ||chain of others trivializes it too, but I dont have a meur on my bleed team||

[lone plover]

hmm I didn't think it was hard to clash

i just thought the unbreakables doing dmg constantly was annoying

[dawn spire]

My issue with the fight weren't at all about the unbreakables themselves, just that the dialogues mechanic is really convoluted, or like only fully makes sense now you know the fight

||in the fight itself you have no idea when it actually comes out unless you check in P2 and it doesn't ever state that you only get 3 shots at it so you better make sure you don't chance the clash with something that can roll lower by chance||

|| and even then now that I know the fight ends at 50%ish I could've limped through it with the shield but I thought i needed hong lu to die to get chances at more dialogues||

[deft obsidian]

Yeah that what got me stuck on my Poise team run

Because i think I used Hong Lu's Dodge or was thinking I can Clash the attack with someone else the first time because I didn't read

After doing it with Poise I went with bleed then said fuck this I'm looking it up then going to bed

||Found out from people in another server i had to Clash with Hong Lu end up making a Poise Rupture team and running that instead now knowing how it's supposed to work, though i found out it was Nerfed after I woke up.||

[lone plover]

oh yeah I read somewhere that I should read the passives

I think u guys mentioned it

[shadow ember]

Didn't read the passives

Just win

[fickle surge]

people can play however they want but I don't think people should focus on status teams when doing story modes

like its good enough just to have a decent meur ID in so long as you've got the right sin resource gen

meur's chain is that good

[dawn spire]

I was using bleed but yeah you literally cannot stack a bleed in that fight

because of the large number of clashes that happen

with all the 4 coiners

[shadow ember]

Or rupture the ego gifts I got were too trash to do a team

[fickle surge]

yeah its just harder to do those crazy 99 stack combos when you aren't jacked up on ego gifts

mirror dungeon has kind of warped what the expectations are in battles

[shadow ember]

Erm why isn't my burn exploding the enemies

[dawn spire]

Its just because I sharded everything from s5 that I basically have a bleed team because its also the only one I have leveled

because I did my MDH with it

[shadow ember]

Works good enough

Also

Yi sang just has crazy EGOs

[fickle surge]

yeah i'm just saying its fine to have a completely different type of meursault ID in that team just to take advantage of chains

[shadow ember]

Crow's eye view top tier

[dawn spire]

I wanted to trust in my tt hong lu

and borrow a kk hc

but that wasnt happening

Rong lu ends up being so good for the fight too imo

because of how long it goes

you get to 5 charge pot

Playing with kk hc also makes me sad

that I missed out on him

the s3 is so meaty

[shadow ember]

People used him for his s2

4 coins in season 1

Was fucking crazy

Since bleed was non existent

[dawn spire]

kk hc

[fickle surge]

i think hes talking about heathcliff

[dawn spire]

tt is the only hong lu id I have from the s1 pass

it was good enough early on, but in the last fight of the dungeon it sucks ass to have just s1s

[shadow ember]

[dawn spire]

the more pressing issue was my egos, I didnt have the gloom for land of illusions too

[shadow ember]

Was thinking about my boy hong lu too much

[dawn spire]

borrowing a hong lu with dimensional shredder was crucial

[shadow ember]

That's why I used dieci hong lu and pointillist to sustain gloom

[fickle surge]

i entered the dungeon with a full kuro team but then ended up switching out a few IDs for a bit more gloom gen

which worked out for me without really thinking

its why I think they should tax or cut down on sin resource gen inbetween dungeon fights

its a lot more fun I think planning that stuff

[dawn spire]

I do think it is sad that I can ego clash because I did every fight

but at the same time its possible sometimes to get a face full of shit because you cant clash the target fixed

its a fine line

Gregor ego was unironically my carry, the 30 roll really helped

[fickle surge]

yeah it is annoying but I think you could nerf the need for ego clashing if you nerfed sin gen

ego passives are more useful these days too

rodya's pursuance ego passive worked well during the ||dialogue stacking phases|| because of the staggers I could farm

[dawn spire]

the same thing with unbreakable coins, fundementally some things are just borked and systems need to be shifted to make a real change

[fickle surge]

yeah it wont happen

people would kick up a fuss and they'd roll it back

just like they've always done

back to being a ruina elitist

[tacit rock]

lacari the ruina elitist

[lone plover]

issue is u gotta be faster

ngl I think unbreakable is fine but you gotta be able to reduce the damage by winning fights

it's kinda annoying having to rely on evade/power block

[fickle surge]

i mean you do reduce damage its just not done in a way that players are comfortable with

[dawn spire]

I think its fucked up to win the clash

but then still take 80 damage

maybe if it couldnt stagger, but thats also the point

idk I think its compounded by the fact its rupture enemies and getting 1 hit in means they also proc the rupture you might have stacked on you

[fickle surge]

i'd have to look at the fight again but i'm pretty sure there are lines that say they wont stagger if its a cracked coin

[dawn spire]

This is the only one that cant

[fickle surge]

interesting

it must be a different fight because I definitely saw normal unbreakables saying they cant stagger on cracked coins

[dawn spire]

fwiw too I think its kinda fucky with ||hong lu himself because of the res getting him out of things||

[lone plover]

yeah this for sure

the final boss guy was def not chill with winning on unbreakables

kinda felt like I was literally eating shit whenever my dodge failed

[fickle surge]

i mean yeah its kinda valid but at teh same time the tempo of the fight is such that, as long as you arent softlocking yourself with the buff stacking, the fight ends up being easier the more of your sinners are dead

[lone plover]

at the very least he shouldn't be able to apply status if you win clash

[fickle surge]

yeah rupture unbreakable is kinda annoying

[lone plover]

overall I still thought easier than canto 7 but like

[dawn spire]

I think there was also some rupture unbreakable negative coin mobs

and thats just fucked man

[lone plover]

unbreakables like this kinda make me feel like healing ego is required

[fickle surge]

look its just further evidence that this clash style in limbus is dogshit

go back to ruina style clashes

[lone plover]

I was down to last 4 sinners because I didn't set up egos properly

[fickle surge]

i mean I was down to last 4 sinners as well at the end

its expected

at least to me it was

and the game basically was completely easy at that point because ||hong lu tanks everything||

[lone plover]

hmm not sure

I woulda lost more if I didn't start evade/blocking the unbreakables

[fickle surge]

||in the fight, at least for me, hong lu has enough hp to be able to tank the 4 coin hit and you're likely able to clash the 1 coin hit. the rest of the skills you can clash with other sinners and you wont take any damage||

[dawn spire]

I died the first time because ||dialogues was proc because he was clashing the 4 coin unbreakables and still taking damage||

[tacit rock]

[fickle surge]

the only thing I think I would keep from the nerfs to the boss is the hp decrease

because i think the fight is basically free once you reach the end that its just wasting time

[dawn spire]

But this was also with ting tang ||blunt weak is not ideal||

||Rong lu being ineff blunt was also a factor||

[lone plover]

tbh I'm not sure how to trigger past the first phase in the first place?

it just kinda happened

[fickle surge]

hp threshold on boss

[dawn spire]

Yeah its like 50%

[fickle surge]

i'm not sure if its 50% on first phase but its around where the stagger point is I think

cant remember

[fallen canopy]

is there any ID's that are good against dream devouring siltcurrent?

[dawn spire]

You need to ego clash the big number

after that make sure you kill the floatsm

itll target that with the big clash number after

[drowsy spruce]

Honestly don't mind the red coins. I just have my tanky IDs take the hit with the red coins or evade it if I can

In my opinion, I prefer these kinds of fights compared to just mindless winning every clash

[shadow ember]

This is part 2 btw

You can't say that

[shadow ember]

I just felt I was wasting my time

You should be able to blast him in 2 turns

[cinder tangle]

so next week is the last part of the story right?

[dawn spire]

yes, 3 parts

[cinder tangle]

okii next week I marathon the Canto

[lone plover]

yeah no I thought parade was harder than this

[fallen canopy]

this ahab fight is such a drag

[drowsy spruce]

That causes she's a Hag

[shadow ember]

Ahab got me acting up ong

[tacit rock]

spoiler || another binha ? are all heads look the same like binha lobotomy corp/library of ruina||

[shell axle]

||pretty sure garion is just binah before she was at lob corp||

[tacit rock]

ok

[simple imp]

Man I was convinced it was the finale with how long that was taking

[shadow ember]

||THIS WAS LITERALLY SHOWN IN LOB CORP WEEBOW||

||https://youtu.be/x7gR5DqJ9DM Who do you think this is ||

[cinder tangle]

weebow fake PM fan

doesn't know Binah's actual name

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GrTBKHFXUAAzxIz.gif

[tacit rock]

ok nvm

I forgot

[tacit rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299954845268185098/1361534314738745514/jpeg.gif

I am not a real truth fan of Project moon, yet because I forgot

[shadow ember]

Bro thinks he's A

[drowsy spruce]

[tacit rock]

[shadow ember]

Bro fr

Jia Qiu

[drowsy spruce]

[simple imp]

[shadow ember]

People should not fall out of their houses to their deaths just so hongyuan has more space to put flowerpots

Wise advice from Jia Qiu

[lone plover]

[tacit rock]

Jia Qiu || fight is cinema ||

[lone plover]

someone save xichun

[shadow ember]

||are you prepared to say goodbye to xichun||

[tacit rock]

[simple imp]

[deft obsidian]

So were does the Xichun eating worms come from

[fickle surge]

lore and speculation around the worms

in one of the uptie stories

[simple imp]

also just cause she's holding one in her sprite lol

[lone plover]

ya she was just holding one in a sprite

so ppl just saw worm and worm eat

[tacit rock]

how do people known || she is death|| ?

[lone plover]

too happy

[dawn spire]

||there is a banner with her and it saying goodbye||

anything else is just vibes or a prediction

[tacit rock]

ok

[fleet venture]

is canto 8 done yet

[simple imp]

no

part 3 next wednsday

[fleet venture]

Okay thanks, I'll wait

[cursive delta]

I have test next Wednesday

[acoustic stump]

who?

[shell axle]

dont swipe

save for walpurgis

[acoustic stump]

wen?

[shell axle]

after canto 8

[acoustic stump]

👍

[shadow ember]

I mean man just started

Just spend it now man

[shell axle]

true

[cursive delta]

Just pull

[cinder tangle]

only shard don't swipe

swipe is only for Walpurgis

[drowsy spruce]

That works as well

But you can pull if you need a strong unit to carry you

[tacit rock]

didn't do mirror dungoen yet

how cook am I ?

well walpurgis gonna be long so I still have time include swiping

[drowsy spruce]

[drowsy spruce]

Well you still got a couple of weeks left before it actually comes out

So I think you time for like 80-90 pulls?

Or something like that

[tacit rock]

yeah

[shadow ember]

[cursive delta]

very...

[cursive delta]

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[lone plover]

TALK ABOUT WHAT

[cursive delta]

he smiles

[tacit rock]

evil sex women

[fallen canopy]

Any advice on beating distorted hindley on 6-32 ?

[cursive delta]

Uhh

Just beat it?

[lone plover]

Kill him before he kills you

[cinder tangle]

bleed or burn him to death

[shadow ember]

Just looked up his stats because I winrated him

[shadow ember]

Use EGO to clash the hard attacks

[cursive delta]

I retried the fight like 2 times or something but that's because my char was doing the funny tail coin

And let the wolf morb'd all over

[tacit rock]

I don't have any issue with him

btw

[dawn spire]

is it normal for there to be no teaser for the next id?

or is there not 3 weeks of back to back new ids on canto launch?

[cursive delta]

Now that you mentioned it

Usually they give you on friday

[dawn spire]

if the dataminers are correct I thnk I know whats next

and id understand why might not tease it, but at the same I dont think its normal to not have a teaser right?

it could just be no new unit?

[shell axle]

is the part 2 final fight

meant to be this easy

or did it get nerfed

cos i just winrated through it

[dawn spire]

It got nerfed

[shadow ember]

Nerfed hard

[shell axle]

[simple imp]

You gata be there the moment it drops if you want prenerfs

Wait even a few hours and its over

[dawn spire]

It was nerfed like 10 hours in

Almost half a day

[simple imp]

Wasnt it closer to 6?

[shell axle]

i ws at work

[shadow ember]

Strawberry and I know

[shadow ember]

Should have gotten a leave

But anyway

This is just part 2

[shell axle]

i just winrated with heishous + full stop

[shadow ember]

It's not meant to be that hard

Dirty full stop user

[shell axle]

every turn red coin

thanks kjh

[shadow ember]

I think Zilu Faust killed unnerfed big man in 4 turns btw

Not sure if nerfed or not

[shell axle]

idk how to use them properly so i just winrate

but i assume its use guard first

[fickle surge]

nerfed + OP units

[opaque hatch]

[cinder tangle]

why is Xicchun the premium BP banner

I have a bad feeling

I just noticed it now

when I checked BP

it's not some meme scribble banner like last BP or birb BP on bon voyage

it's actually her

[shadow ember]

You didn't know?

We all knew xichun is fucking cooked

[cinder tangle]

I just logged in

I don't log in a lot

since I'm waiting for part 3

hopefully someone can do something about it

and not just let her you know

[shell axle]

final boss of canto 8

[cinder tangle]

worms...

[shell axle]

bella ramsey for live action xichun

[simple imp]

Bella and Pedro for Don and Don

[robust mirage]

Chat hows faust

[opaque hatch]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1973530/eventcomments/597401798036230027?snr=1_2108_9__2107

should i just pull then to get the 300 crates and the 3* guarantee?

[shadow ember]

She annihilates

[shadow ember]

HOLY FUCK

They nerfed her

[shell axle]

is she that broken

[shell axle]

ew wtf

[opaque hatch]

they also nerfed red sheet sinclair

[shell axle]

didnt they get buttblasted for trying to nerf ringsang

[shadow ember]

They saw her killing the big man in 4 turns without interacting with the mechanic and shit their pants

KJH was probably watching arknights meme videos when he saw that and jumped out of his seat

[shadow ember]

They might as well nerf ringsang too

[shell axle]

what is that omeganerf lmao

doubled resource requirement

[robust mirage]

Yeah planning to get her just for the ticket

[shadow ember]

Yo strawberry

What you think

[fickle surge]

i'm always for nerfs when necessary

[shadow ember]

Should I pull for her

[fickle surge]

for faust mao?

[shadow ember]

Yeah

[fickle surge]

i dont have her

[shadow ember]

I want those rewards

[fickle surge]

but I would pull for her

or shard for her

regardless of the nerf

[shadow ember]

I'm thinking

[fickle surge]

the damage output for her pre nerf was insane

and I'm glad it was changed

[shadow ember]

Should I save walpurg

Or just try to get Mao Faust for the rewards

[fickle surge]

this trend in gacha that you should never be allowed to nerf characters is the stupidest expectation in a gaming sector I've ever been in

[shadow ember]

Anyway what you think straw?

[fickle surge]

i mean the only walp faust thing you can get is forsaken murderer

so if you want a tremor ID that can aoe then save for it

otherwise just shard for mao faust why not

[shadow ember]

I can just shard that

[fickle surge]

are you asking if you should gamba on mao faust

so you can get 300 crates

[shadow ember]

Yeah

[fickle surge]

and a 3* ticket

[shadow ember]

Yep

[fickle surge]

do you feel lucky punk

[shadow ember]

Nope

But I'm addicted to gambling

[fickle surge]

okay then go do it

[shadow ember]

LETS GO GAMBLING GGGFGGGGFF AKAPPAA

[fickle surge]

you'll use up your walp funds so you can gamble on another 3* from this season

and something to shard after that

walp wont be for like

2 months I bet

so you probably hae time

[shadow ember]

Yo if I'm lucky

PM might fuck up again

And I can get back walpurg funds

[fickle surge]

i'll do a 10 pull for faust

just for you

and I got nothing

got this instead on the next 10 pull

nah fuck it we ball I can afford it

30 pulls

back to afking in this game

[shadow ember]

Done

[shadow ember]

60 pulls

[fickle surge]

still worth

[shadow ember]

Also got fell bullet heathcliff

[fickle surge]

season 7 is when I'll have to play again I think

unless they keep on making balance nerfs

[cinder tangle]

demn

they nerfed res sheet Sinclair as well

was planning to shard Faust

just for that interaction with red sheet

I guess she's too strong that she will overshadow hong lu season ID

[simple imp]

deserved honestly, I had her in a team with a single other heishou and I was spamming that empowered every turn with how fast you get stacks

She'll still be strong af

[cursive delta]

Bro what happened

Red sheet Sinclair? Talisinc? A 00 ID getting nerfed?

[shadow ember]

Meta defining 00 support

The rupture talisman gives is nuts

[simple imp]

more like the talisman effect itself getting nerfed

[pallid dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719723322480263238/1293932689669357600/8ujygsobuusd1.gif

[fickle surge]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533225113201411524

scammed

well I was going to get them anyway

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who the fuck is this

[pallid dome]

[simple imp]

[fickle surge]

MODS?!

@old reef explain your yugioh bot please

[pallid dome]

you are being watched

👁️

@obtuse pebble

can you make it so the bot doesnt interact with gachers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/956426451907907584.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Clue

[fickle surge]

[shadow ember]

OH MY GOD BRUH

AM I STILL GETTING MY REWARDS

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[fickle surge]

you have been consumed by greed

repent

[shadow ember]

Fuck that shit

[fickle surge]

[shadow ember]

WHERE MY REWARDS AT KJH

[fickle surge]

you probably will still get rewards

check your time of pull to KST

i'm pretty sure you did it just in time

[simple imp]

Reading those kneejerk reviews is giving me brain worms holy fuck

[shadow ember]

Bro I didn't make it

19:10 KST was an hour before I fucking pulled

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[fickle surge]

lesson learned for the both of us

i dont really care though

[shadow ember]

Fuck you kjh

I DEMAND COMPENSATION

[simple imp]

"THE ENTIRE ARCHETYPE LITERALLY EXISTED ON A SINGLE PASSIVE AND THEY CUT IT OUT !!!! WTF !!!!" yeah no shit retard they want it to be good without relying on a single 00 unit's passive

[shadow ember]

I DEMAND

[fickle surge]

there is a fair point that nerfing talisman can nerf other rupture units who were built around the fact that talisman was OP

but it is what it is

[shadow ember]

They should buff with uptie 5

[fickle surge]

thats what I've always been saying

[shadow ember]

Yo

Strawberry do you think I could get some rewards

[simple imp]

but now they dont have to worry about it which is the whole point of the nerf

[shadow ember]

Or will PM put their feet down this time

[fickle surge]

they dont have to worry about it for future units yeah but older rupture units will be worse probably

[simple imp]

hopefully they do touch em up with up5 or something

[fickle surge]

yeahwhich is why an uptie 5 would be a probably good solution

even though people would complain about thread costs

[simple imp]

[shadow ember]

I don't care about thread costs

100 shard costs

[old reef]

[ Kuriboh ]

[velvet rampart]

Kuriboh

DARK • Level: 1
[ Fiend / Effect ]

ATK 300 / DEF 200

Effect

During damage calculation, if your opponent's monster attacks (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; you take no battle damage from that battle.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[fickle surge]

[Compensation Information]

[velvet rampart]

Could not resolve English data for searches: compensation information

[fickle surge]

[old reef]

xdd

[shadow ember]

@fickle surge NERF CANCELLED

FAUST GOD MODE ON

FAUST ABOUT TO ANNIHILATE THE WORLD

[shadow ember]

ALL OF IT IS CANCELLED

Except talisman clair nerf

That's the one thing KJH won't concede

The nerf to Blackwater-Myo Fildu Faust and its accompanying set of rewards and return of Extraction Rewards will be canceled with the nerf rescinded.
Robotomi E.G.O:: For the Reddish Sinclair, we appreciate your understanding that the nerfs will remain in place, and the reset and return of the nurture rewards will occur.

To compensate for the series of issues and Sinclair's adjustments, we are apologizing and will finally be giving out 1300 Madness and 1 3-star Personality Appearance Extraction Ticket.

We'll post a formal announcement as soon as we're able to get things organized once again.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

backtrack for the faust

[fickle surge]

okay so ringsang 2.0

makes an announcement

makes a second announcement

backtracks

well at least talisman is getting nerfed

more evidence that being a ruina elitist is best

he will never be able to make the game he wants

[shadow ember]

But he can make the anime he wants

[fickle surge]

anime is trash

[shadow ember]

And thats what really matters

[fickle surge]

this is actually worse

[shadow ember]

Animated mersault cheeks

[fickle surge]

the people who pulled

were going to get an omega deal

just so they could have a pretty good ID

instead of a completely overpowered one

one that would be replaced in half a year anyway

[shadow ember]

I should have just saved my currency

Walpurg funds wasted

Nothing ever happens

[fickle surge]

nothing ever changes

always do each part the moment its released for the true experience

never expect any nerfs to new IDs

[cinder tangle]

[robust mirage]

Mili will save the company

[cinder tangle]

sing mili

TBH hearing a mili song = peak

but the early chapter mili song are kinda meh like upto yisang

Ishmael's canto is when it becomes Ruina quality again

[shadow ember]

Pass On Gregor slander

I mean

In hell we live

That's considered early chapter mili

[cinder tangle]

don't I believe that Gregor's story is not over

he'll get a peak mili song

[robust mirage]

lol

[tacit rock]

what is heisoh pack?

[shadow ember]

It's the new faust

[tacit rock]

ok

[robust mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/faust-gif-12478501275459632096

[old reef]

Wdym

[shadow ember]

Faust nerf cancelled

Nwo everyone is going insane

[old reef]

Is Faust broken?

[old reef]

Hello stev

[shadow ember]

Yes

[tacit rock]

well I hope devs keep doing good work reasonable

consumers playing gacha are retard AF

[shadow ember]

PM too nice

You never see hoyo and kuro with this drama

They put global passive

And then laugh at you

Brokie

[tacit rock]

that is why I hope gacha companies keep abusing these consumers

like good old days

no more gacha players, no more gacha cosplayers

no more gacha CC

the world is cure

no more gacha I willing to be the villian

back to the 90s and 2000 back to MMORPG

[robust mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/distortion-distort-lobotomy-corporation-lobotomy-carmen-gif-7443259370145973373

[old reef]

Okay

[robust mirage]

nooo come back

[tacit rock]

@old reef distort yourself into gokmop

[cinder tangle]

Si Branch worth getting ?

[opaque hatch]

I wasted my pulls could've just saved for Walp

[cinder tangle]

sharding exist

homie

[opaque hatch]

I wanted the 300 shard boxes

[cinder tangle]

I've used 232 boxes fro Si Rodion

I have like 1643 leftover from last season

gonna shard Faust on the 29th

[opaque hatch]

Yeah but they were going to give 300 shard boxes and the 3 star guaranteed ticket initially for those who pulled for Faust before the 29th

[dawn spire]

Talisman was the reason every rupture unit had to be shit

[cinder tangle]

can't relate with the talisman stuff

[opaque hatch]

Then they changed it to refund all tickets and pulls before the 26th 7:10 pm kst

[dawn spire]

Mao Faust is a another issue, I don't understand how they shipped her with those numbers

[cinder tangle]

always have Devyat on his slot ever since I got him

[dawn spire]

It's just that like outside of mobbing

Rupture is also the most busted status

Like just how mechanically it stacks and pays out

[cinder tangle]

Mao Faust means Season hong lu is gonna be giga broken now to compensate

[vast dove]

they punish the greed of the people who pulled after announcement

[cinder tangle]

imagine using lunacy on a non Walpurgis content

[cinder tangle]

Si Rodya S3 feels satisfying to use

[dawn spire]

the actual proper fix to the fight

[tacit rock]

so people spamming negative review?

@dawn spire what do u think about this fiasco?

I don't known much about limbus mechanic

I just gambling with those coins

[dawn spire]

I think he def should not have released the notice on nerfs if they werent prepared to nerf, this whole we will be compensating and then not compensating is why people are angry, if you wanted to nerf her sure, she is really fucking dumb, or if you are going to go around it then sure, its just the putting the notice, having people obviously take advantage of the situation and then take it back that people dont like

[old reef]

1300 and 10 Free pulls inc

[tacit rock]

they can't abuse it anymore

[dawn spire]

also apparently testers were busy with the new canto so they didnt notice how busted she was?

idk, with the delay in the canto and then this its just kinda like you either need to commit to the small team (KJH wants a team small enough so that he personally knows everyone on the team) and be honest with how things are releasing, I think if they fucking posted a roadmap already and people knew when walp was actually coming out it would just make people happier

or they get more employees because this is wack

[tacit rock]

I'm pretty sure he can manage it but I bet they were too focuss on the canto 8 story

to make sure it good

no more canto 1-4 incident

4 is okish

have a huge team also nice

easy to pint point a group only focuss on specifict task

but one huge problem are all those peoples on the same train or just being selfish

just like leading a raid team in mmorpg

either way sometime we did some dumb shit decision

[old reef]

@tacit rock what happen to Lacari Limbus

[tacit rock]

soon

[fickle surge]

soon he says

[dawn spire]

he said on walp

[old reef]

Scam inc

[tacit rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799634758685425664/1376608872009039983/ruinaposting.mp4?ex=6835f26b&is=6834a0eb&hm=7296e76c0b954f70c6d41b5119141e9c53acb6e51f01f431c4db0f53ea49be50&

[simple imp]

Dam, he caved in to the whiners

[simple imp]

Si Rodya is preddy nice, you use defense first turn and then its juices her with so much poise and also has aoe in her S3 and really good clashing

I didn't manage to pull gregor so idk how he compares with his s3 being a single coin

[lone plover]

Nah she’s so broken it’s impossible to replace her. Just look at how ring sang is still one of the best ids

[tidal girder]

@lone plover has leveled up! (52 ➜ 53)

[fickle surge]

i meant that in relation to the post nerfed state

[lone plover]

Idk they gotta just play the unit it’s not even like it’s her skill effects

If u look at the coin power by itself it’s outta control

[fickle surge]

i bet the dev team is more stressed and rushed than we think

I remember that one MD stream jihoon did

where he was asking how the builds were going and all that

and still working on part 2/3 even though the season was coming out in like a week

[lone plover]

Yeah but I feel like doing basic testing with the team is like simple stuff

[fickle surge]

oh definitely

its trash excuses

[lone plover]

Or honestly u can just do math

It’s mostly just her coin power rolling higher than fully charged charge teams

[fickle surge]

anyway I'm pissed overall like usual

just typical gacha 'we paid, you cant nerf even though you were going to full refund everything'

how do you think people can make good games if they can only go one out of two directions

if project moon did another live service game it better not be a gacha

[tacit rock]

[lone plover]

Yeah honestly their small staff shows

[pallid dome]

finished dungeon

[tacit rock]

yeah it totally stupid

[lone plover]

Updates are somewhat inconsistent quality wise

[pallid dome]

2 days

[tacit rock]

btw I think nerf and buff in PVE game is pretty dumb ngl

[pallid dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346395058965839925/1371947713381273610/ezgif-2d89a04e18887f.gif

[lone plover]

And it takes them forever to actually release content too

[tacit rock]

majority gacha should make challenge content for PVE

balance only work for PVP

[pallid dome]

man

jia qiu

[lone plover]

This is the first consistent canto story quality wise we’ve had in a while

[tacit rock]

Jia Qiu is gigachad character

[lone plover]

Usually every canto has a part that just kinda sucks

[tacit rock]

more than any gacha games

[lone plover]

Usually part 1

[pallid dome]

what a brother

[fickle surge]

the benefits of the delays

oh well is what it is

there's probably a better model out there where they sell canto's as DLC or something like you would sell a new manga volume

where they dont make as much money but at least they can do what they want

[lone plover]

Honestly you could just not use zilu Faust

Let the ppl who want easy mode play easy mode

[fickle surge]

true

[tacit rock]

@fickle surge do u think people should stop caring about powercreept in PVE gacha game? and just make hard content rogue like and every stats and lvl are equally

[lone plover]

Rest of heishous are good but not free

[fickle surge]

my problems are more that the changes I want are more fundamental but never get done just because of the gacha culture

[tacit rock]

I like how elden ring u can either choose build and gear for difficulty

by your self

[lone plover]

It matters a bit but honestly I don’t care that much cuz the biggest change I want is to go back to ruina style

I already kinda don’t play limbus for gameplay

[tacit rock]

lacari also want it yah

[simple imp]

Eh I always disagree with this sentiment, I'd rather play a well balanced game than try to balance out myself by constantly avoiding multitude of shitty gimped stuff and stupidly OP stuff

[lone plover]

Like I’m pressing winrate Wcyd

Sometimes I press the ego button

[fickle surge]

theres a reason why I don't play this game much at all

the daily/weekly shit actively makes the game easier than it should be

its just not as fun

I have to actively NOT play so that the game can be fun

[lone plover]

Like sometimes I skip weeklies

[fickle surge]

because I have to do the dev balancing by restricting what to play

[tacit rock]

I do wish for this but its kind hard if the devs known what to do and don't give a fuck about people cry for nerft

would be nice

[lone plover]

Like I enjoy fucking around with new units but it’s nowhere near as fun as ruina

[simple imp]

I wish they'd just ignore all those dumbass whiners

[tacit rock]

yeah

casual players are brain rott

ngl

[simple imp]

next they'll be whining about powercreep

[tacit rock]

even my father say people keep playing casual it will degrade their brain intellegence and critical thinking

I did that before

which is why I am retard

prime example

[lone plover]

they're already whining about it

[simple imp]

[fickle surge]

to be fair its two different groups (probably)

[tacit rock]

this

[simple imp]

i feel that happen in real time whenever I play a modren AAA game

[lone plover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1ktsu09/heishou_faust_powercreep_and_the_downfall_of/

man why are the new ids so much stronger than the old ones from s1-3

where u needed 10 poise and 20 bleed to activate their effects (literally not possible outside md)

also there are s1 ids that are still insanely good

w don still one of the best fragile appliers in the game

[tacit rock]

yeah

ngl overpower to skip mechanic is dumb

because u created video games also have mechanic

to make people learn how to playing it

[lone plover]

anyways it's just fucked cuz they jsut fucked up statuses

honestly most status teams should have lots of count application and low potency application

instead of the other way around

if they make it hard to get 99 potency rupture i.e. it's like turn 10 before u get 99 stack it's way less of a balancing nightmare than what we have currently

same thing for rupture/tremor/sinking

this all hindsight though so

[fickle surge]

i mean its also just a problem with live service games in general

you shouldn't really be spending so much time playing a game

because you'll just find out all the meta strats

and now you have to design the game in that way because the community assimilates those strategies

[tacit rock]

it happen like real game

[fickle surge]

thats why nerfs should be allowed because its impossible to get someone to make a game without flaws

[lone plover]

nah the status stuff is just bad design

but also they completely changed the direction of the game in s1

so I can't even blame them that much

[fickle surge]

sure

[lone plover]

they been wheeling trying to unfuck the design of the changed s1

cuz ppl decided the og 70% wasn't fun

[fickle surge]

i miss the OG limbus, as trash as it was

[lone plover]

honestly this game just needed to spend s1 in the beta test oven

instead of just straight up releasing

playtesters coulda told them it people didn't like it (I liked it)

[fickle surge]

i'm still pissed about the SP change

there are ways that I can't explain that just fuck up teh fundamental EGO gameplay because SP is so much more important

as opposed to it just being this bonus resource you use that had a minor effect on % coin rates

anyway monthly bitch out on limbus design done

its a live service game and has molded in this way, cant stop it

this is why live service is trash

[lone plover]

honestly they prob couldn't do this long story without the live service money

that's the only reason I'm ok with it

[fickle surge]

pretty much

[lone plover]

but yeah the gameplay is ass

[fickle surge]

we are just highlighting the cons of the live service model

but the canto itself, balancing aside, has been pretty fucking great

[lone plover]

had to be easier to let the live service tards play it

[fickle surge]

and thats just the pros of the model

but so help me god if they do another gacha/live service game I am not fucking supporting it

maybe for the first month I will before it gets mutated

[lone plover]

let be real u still play it for story

(they learned nothing from the last game)

[fickle surge]

well yeah I do play it for the story

because old PM games merged game difficulty with good story

that was their niche

but I don't see myself spending as much if at all if they tried to do another live service game

they'd have to do really well at going back to their roots for me to do that

[dawn spire]

I mean I understand

that like maybe they didnt play test the double slot shenanigans

that lets her S3-2 contantly

but still even without that its still dumb numbers

idk I would rather they just refund the pulls and just nerf

or like this whole thing stems from the fact they wont fucking tell us when walp really is, people are just saying its coming up

but like people dont want to use crates or pulls with no clear date and they should just show a fucking roadmap already

Also this whole, I will never nerf a released character will only hurt in the long run

thats why they released all these arbitrary rupture units with 15/3

thank god talisman is dead

[lone plover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1kw8jf5/the_issue_isnt_nerfs_its_a_lack_of_buffs_c8/

?????????

why do they need to be buffed lmao

[shadow ember]

Buff season 1 IDs

[lone plover]

if anything older stuff just needs to be sunset

so they aren't diluting the pool

and if u want u can shard them

or pull on discounted banner

[shadow ember]

It's a hard dilemma

Make old IDs irrelevant

Or have to maintain and update them

[lone plover]

he's trying to show sinner progression as they get stronger

there's no reason to buff the old ids

can u imagine making bl yi sang relevant in 2025

like u would need to give him +2-3 coin power on s3 to even make him relevant

at this point just sunset him

[fickle surge]

UP5 is all you need

[lone plover]

why are we trying to buff this ass

[fickle surge]

both from a lore and mechanics perspective

[lone plover]

u need like +2 coin power on up5

[fickle surge]

if you really want to buff older units then just do an up5

[lone plover]

and then they need to go through this for all old idds

it's too much fucking work

they need to just sunset this shit and call it a day but they prob wont

[fickle surge]

if I had it my way

i'd gate pulls to newer units until you unlock the canto

[lone plover]

arknights modules are also good but limbus gameplay isn't varied enough to warrant it

[fickle surge]

these posts on reddit just dont align with me at all for pmoon games

i hate the gacha community coming into this

but I also like the canto's

i need them to fund my stories

[dawn spire]

I dont see how this point works for the conculsion though

like how does a casual player with old ids even really matter if they like dont do anything in the game

like at what point are we even catering to at this point

people who dont play the game or like people who just use the same team constantly?

And the other example is nclair who is still arguably depending on how you feel about consistency vs big numbers still his best id

I do think they should go back and simply do a rupture rework

all the units that got cucked because talisman existed in the game and you couldnt make it stronger

but thats because they took so long to nerf it

[lone plover]

I'm saying we should just say fuck old ids and stop spending dev time to figure out how to make them viable for UT5

nclair was too soy and therefore will not be getting ut5

he reached his soy potential

[dawn spire]

I mean ut4 was also how they balanced it

giving him ass for it, but hes still good

I assume that they would do the same for mao faust if they do a UT5

but even then I dont think everything needs to be viable

or like in a team building game, theres only so many things that can be "viable" enough before everything simply becomes homogenized

Theres only 7 slots on a team, not everyone can have a niche that puts them into one of those slots or its going to be like 70 niches that need support

more bloise

[tidal girder]

@dawn spire has leveled up! (84 ➜ 85)

[fickle surge]

one day I hope limbus company gets an offline mode

and jihoon gets autistic enough to change everything the way he wanted it to

[shadow ember]

After all the cantos are done probably

They will remake it into a complete game

first EOS planned gacher

[fickle surge]

[shell axle]

did they cancel the nerfs

[fickle surge]

talisman is still nerfed

[shell axle]

ripbozo never used him

[cursive delta]

i never use his passive

[shell axle]

i know not to piss off korean incels

[simple imp]

https://fixvx.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1927306968080756756

Limbus Company (@LimbusCompany_B)

#LCB #림버스 #LimbusCompany #リンバス

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 27, 2025, 10:12 AM

https://tenor.com/view/jia-xichun-limbus-company-gif-3184233378418932895

[shadow ember]

I'm surprised they didn't go with donny

||Family Hierarch Ishmael||

[shell axle]

mersault

in a ditch

[cinder tangle]

Ishmael

I guess Ishmael needs an upgrade when it comes to rapture

can't be rockin LCCB Ishmael on 2025

[pallid dome]

im using rupture units la mancha gregor and rodya

:3

[shell axle]

sloshmael

[cursive delta]

already got meurcinq

[cinder tangle]

that's not a character

[shell axle]

sloshing

ishmael

she has rupture in skills! must be good!

[cursive delta]

I will hold your hands when I say this

[old reef]

Welcome to gacha. You never noticed how ppl cant side with anyone? In gacha community

[fickle surge]

some do they just rarely post

[old reef]

Because they see it's no point. Only opinion that matters is theirs. What opinion you say never gonna matter to them and will never side with you

[robust mirage]

If you need your opinion to align with someone then do you even accept your own opinion?

[fickle surge]

?

thats not what that means at all

its another way of saying these people dont get it

it has nothing to do with me needing other peoples validation to accept my own opinion

[robust mirage]

I know

https://tenor.com/view/distortion-distort-lobotomy-corporation-lobotomy-carmen-gif-7443259370145973373

[fickle surge]

okay then

time to talk to invisible woman

[deft obsidian]

Look my opinion on it if they were going to nerf Faust just stick with the first compensation. As it seemed generous enough that my pulls put into it were worth the amount lost for Walpurgisnacht

Because gamblers before the 29th wouldn't be pulling for Faust but be pulling for 3 000 stars essentially

Then saying we'll refund you the extraction pulls essentially gives them no consequences for pulling that compensation before 29th resulting in them hopping on the band wagon that people who pulled her before the compensation announcement would have gotten.

[tacit rock]

I'm glad didn't pull

so many people get scam

[deft obsidian]

I pulled before the announcement and only lost 20 Extract tickets my horde is safe

[cinder tangle]

I pulled faust with free tickets

[tacit rock]

[cinder tangle]

got her in one 10 roll

[tacit rock]

so is walpurgis gonna be after 2 weeks?

[deft obsidian]

All 29 decatickets are safe for Xichun Ishmael

[tacit rock]

[cinder tangle]

sharding Xichunmael

[tacit rock]

I forgot walpugris

when

[deft obsidian]

Never announced

[tacit rock]

ok nice

I hope it after this month

[deft obsidian]

They just said after Canto 8

[tacit rock]

gonna save

so next month

[deft obsidian]

I just need to keep enough lunacy or tickets for pity

[tacit rock]

can u use shard in walpurgis?

or u pull only

[deft obsidian]

Yes but only for past IDs

[tacit rock]

[deft obsidian]

So like Full stop Heathcliff or full stop Hong Lu

I'm personally saving faust shards for Regret Faust

[tacit rock]

[deft obsidian]

Because I have everything else for Walpurgisnacht except Regert

So you can say Walpurgisnacht left me with nothing but Regret

[tacit rock]

ngl I want the punishing bird ego and shit

apocaoplyse bird

[deft obsidian]

We don't even know what IDs or EGOs are coming this Walpurgisnacht

For all we know Walpurgisnacht is getting it's own ID

[tacit rock]

if project moon have a huge group 30 is good enough they would able to keep make more project and fast update

[deft obsidian]

So now you have every sinner playing as Faust's sword

[tacit rock]

ok

red mist ID and black silent ID

I want both

[deft obsidian]

Right now I think their group is 43

50 in total but 7 of those is for the restaurant

So that is why I said 43

[tacit rock]

ok

[deft obsidian]

They want another 50 people and a new Office

[tacit rock]

seem like the old office pretty cramp

[deft obsidian]

Turning the new office into one of those Tech start ups where it has a Clubhouse longue

[tacit rock]

[fickle surge]

they didnt though because they now have OP mao faust

[tacit rock]

I just joking

[fickle surge]

i know weebo, i know

[tacit rock]

ngl I hope their new 3D something something work well and able to push some more money

[deft obsidian]

I thought you were saying they got scammed because they rashness to get 3 3 stars came crashing down on them when they canceled the nerf

Now they're left with a powerful 3 star and garranteed 3 star 10 pull and another 10 pulls

And no refunds

[tacit rock]

epic 7 the character was good but nerf then add another character counter the other one and make that character not usable in PVP. Summoner war have to pull for more same character but different element. That is why my scam is

PVP gacha

ngl power crept in epic 7 is far more than HSR and Limbus company

[deft obsidian]

I was going to also joke, were my compensation when they Nerf Liu Rodion

[tacit rock]

what happen to liu rodion?

[deft obsidian]

Basically her uptie 3 had her uptie 4 improvements in her skill 3

[tacit rock]

ngl I don't mind small nerf just don't make it unusable

ah

[deft obsidian]

They recently changed it to fix that problem of her skill 3 wasn't really improved

I think it was the week of Liu Yi Sang or the week after

[tacit rock]

ok

[deft obsidian]

But it was funny because I went they nerf Liu Rodion

But yeah i feel that raising Mao Faust resource req from 10 to 20 doesn't seem that bad of a nerf for her skill 3

[tacit rock]

arknight power creept easy brute force every map

even the hardest challenge

raising resource on OP stuff isn't that bad ngl

it stop people spamming it many time and use it for correct time

btw how is counter evade and defences work? is it only use when your attack have Hopeless?

I spam EGO when I see hopeless

[shadow ember]

Counter works when you get hit

Defences guard

Evade evades attack entirely

So red coins can't hit your evade

[deft obsidian]

Then you got the power blocks and the power Counters

Power counters act like a 4th attack just only working when you clash

And power blocks are just clashable Gaurd

[tacit rock]

so how to trigger power blocks and power counters? I see some ID have it and some not

[deft obsidian]

Clash fool clash

[tacit rock]

ok

[deft obsidian]

Sometimes they are a better skill 1

Like in Firefist Gregor's case

Though i wouldn't spam it as often

Because i use it to reload Gregor ammo resource(though it's not classified as ammo it's basically ammo)

[deft obsidian]

Then you got Full Stop Heathcliff Evade that has a counter to it when Full stop Hong Lu is on the field

[deft obsidian]

https://x.com/negitoroll793/status/1927322886982820351?t=N5XeWR_5TC-Y9tkY2M47kw&s=19

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X · May 27, 2025, 11:15 AM

[cinder tangle]

evade bot because he shoots either way

[tacit rock]

ok

[deft obsidian]

Yeah Full stop bros are amazing

And i want another ID like that

[cinder tangle]

I slap them on every team

[tacit rock]

so full stop require have to get both of them on the same team ?

to make evade work?

counter something

[cinder tangle]

they're self sufficient with their crit gen as well

[deft obsidian]

Along with empowering full stop Hong lu

Like they are what a two man ID should look like

[tacit rock]

btw how do I known which ID working well together when u put them on the same team?

[deft obsidian]

Keywords mostly

[tacit rock]

and their buff off field

ah ok

[deft obsidian]

Sometimes like the cinqs are built to work with each other

Same with the Lius

Burns work with burns

Poise works with everyone

[tacit rock]

ok

[deft obsidian]

My Poise team is cinqsault, cinqoutis, cinqClair, Full stop brothers, Captain Ishmael and Maid Ryoshu

[tacit rock]

is poise make you tanky?

[deft obsidian]

Fuck no

My tank is Outis on that team

And she's alright