Genshin Impact

[misty grail]

I expect no less from fandom to dog on actual reputable sites

I mean u the one that linked fandom

[elfin jay]

i link the content on it....

[misty grail]

If u gonna use it as ur evidence imma explain why that its dogshit

[elfin jay]

which are screenshots of game8 long ago

do i need to explain that? really?

[tribal bone]

bruh why did they make such a inconsequential side character so strong

[misty grail]

So u complaining about something they corrected long ago

Yikes

[tribal bone]

green kimchi is way too OP for its own good

[misty grail]

Kinich?

[tribal bone]

yes i call him kimchi

[misty grail]

Hes dendro navia on steroids and nah hes like the leading member of his tribe

Wouldnt say inconsequential

Just like mualani is for hers

[tribal bone]

he is lets be honest here, hes not a kazuha that is a main leading force of the plot

[misty grail]

Lore wise anyways

[misty grail]

He actually is

[tribal bone]

if u say so lol

[misty grail]

I've read the story lol

Ppl just hate his ahh cuz hes greedy

[elfin jay]

aite then go follow game8 then. just saying they arent the most reliable.

[misty grail]

I mean most of us do cuz their tier list the least bias and actually offers insightful writeups

All these youtuber clickbait tier lists all serve their own agenda bias

Game8 is a writeup from multiple contributors

[tribal bone]

obviously

everything has a bias

[misty grail]

Exactly

[tribal bone]

unless they only speak of numbers

and even that isnt a exact science

[misty grail]

All we rly search for is the least bias

[elfin jay]

thats why you watch all of them, evaluate the factors and decide on your own, not follow blindly

[tribal bone]

because there is also the clunkiness of a character, how long the animations take how they interact with the actual cast

who is following anything blindly here tho

[misty grail]

Nah i dont watch none of em actually, i make my own decisions after trying shit out

[tribal bone]

whale freak

[elfin jay]

but you look at game8... so they still influences your outlook

[misty grail]

Not once have i ever followed anyones tier list or instructions, just becuz i agree with game8s tierlist doesnt mean i follow it

Damn thats wild u can agree with a tierlist but not follow it?

[tribal bone]

ok, lets just say the worst man known to mankind said something that is true, does that mean it all the sudden becomes false ?

no

[misty grail]

Didnt know humans can be so complicated and nuance

[tribal bone]

just because its game8 saying something that is true, doesnt make it not true

[misty grail]

Nope

[tribal bone]

despite all the false things they have said before

[misty grail]

Mint is just mad alhaitham is top 3

And disagrees due to his personal bias

[tribal bone]

top 3 in what

btw

i wasnt following

[misty grail]

In the tier list

[tribal bone]

ok in what tier list

overall ?

or just like in a sepcific scenario

[elfin jay]

i also pointed out ayaka... you speak as if im have some hate agenda. im just saying hes overrated.

[misty grail]

Ye overall prob idk i dont look at the recent one cuz they update every patch dunno if still same ranking

[tribal bone]

that seems like a overstatement to say he is overall top 3 in the game no ? i wouldnt know exactly, but i barely see anyone using him

[misty grail]

Ayaka is prob one of the few ice dps besides wrioth and ganyu in the game wow good job pointing out one of 3 ice dps

[misty grail]

Nah hes op

[tribal bone]

i dont doubt

just dont know if he is top 3 in the entire game

maybe top 3 supports

[misty grail]

He is

[elfin jay]

freeze hasnt been cosistently good for abyss for a long time..

[misty grail]

Hes not a support

Hes a dendro hyper carry

[misty grail]

Didnt say it was nor did i mention it

U overreaching

I said shes one of the few cryo dps in a pool of

Literally 3 cryo dps

[elfin jay]

yea i can read.

so what about that.

[misty grail]

@tribal bone alotta ppl use him when abyss is hard becuz his dmg is absurd in spread/quicken, alhaitham is u hit lmb and auto for a fk ton of aoe dendro react dmg

[misty grail]

Obv u cant if u tried to move the convo to freeze

[tribal bone]

i seen his damage now and im not really impressed, does he increase a lot on cons ?

[elfin jay]

you mentioned i have a hate boner for haitham. i said i also pointed out ayaka.. what do you not understand

[tribal bone]

like how raiden is a completely different character at c0 and c2

[elfin jay]

and then you pointed out the obvious, wow one of 3 ice dps.

[misty grail]

Alhaitham is a dps at c0 and c2 and so on at c0 he pops off hard out of the box

[tribal bone]

maybe the guy im seeing here doesnt have the best build

[misty grail]

Becuz ppl who dont know what alhaitham does and sees dendro immediately assume hyperbloom comp which is his worst dmg he wants spread quicken which consist only of dendro electro only

[tribal bone]

cus childe had a 1 min clear with similar invesment and he had a 2min clear instead on second stage of the floor

hyper bloom is elector yes ?

[misty grail]

Childe is a nuke setup alhaitham doesnt require energy or setup to do his dmg

[tribal bone]

electro *

[misty grail]

No

Hyperbloom is electro hydro dendro

[tribal bone]

thats the comp im seeing

is he fire then ?

fire bloom what ever the fucking name is

[misty grail]

Alhaitham is dendro....

[elfin jay]

haithm does, quick bloom, you prefer low hydro application so he quickens while kuki does hyperbloom, but i dont really want to explain it to you. thats generally well accepted as his best team.

[tribal bone]

i know hes dendro mofo

[misty grail]

No lyn that is his worst comp

[tribal bone]

read what i said

LUL

then what is the comp then ?

we running out of elements

[misty grail]

No he doesnt thats why hea dogshit cuz u dont know how to play him

U use zero hydro in alhaitham comp

[elfin jay]

not furina?

[misty grail]

Bro dead ass bring hydro and ask why his lv 40 alhaitham is shit

[misty grail]

Not even furina

[elfin jay]

now you gotta take it personally. just cos my haitham is 40, my opinion is invalid

[tribal bone]

ok what is the comp

please

so that i can find a video to see

[misty grail]

Alahaitham comp is literally a combination of any dendro and electro u dont need a video

Is al nahida fishl or raiden and zhongli

Fishcl and raiden are interchangeable

[tribal bone]

i found a video then

[misty grail]

Ppl who bring hydro dont understand thats not how u play al

It is so much less dps its insane

The difference is one rotationing geo wolf lord to not one rotationing geo wolf lord in abyss at c0

Before he gets up and does his stall aerial bullshit

[tribal bone]

ok without hydro his clear went from 2 min to 1 min and 5 seconds

[misty grail]

Exactly

[tribal bone]

he is as good as burst child

[misty grail]

Hes better

[tribal bone]

dont see how this is a top 3 unit

[misty grail]

With better rotations

[tribal bone]

when his clear is as fast as a meme character

[misty grail]

No lyn

[tribal bone]

ok but that doesnt make him OP

[misty grail]

U dont understand

[tribal bone]

that makes him very good

[misty grail]

[tribal bone]

a OP character doesnt need super optimal shit and amazing rotations to make it broken

[misty grail]

Ok lyn so u think kinich is good rite?

[tribal bone]

they are just simply broken

[misty grail]

Alhaitham does kinich dmg

[tribal bone]

i do cus he is very easy to pilot

[misty grail]

He is literally that

[tribal bone]

well in your stream you can show me then

[misty grail]

Easy to pilot

[tribal bone]

im not seeing in the videos

[misty grail]

And does a fk ton of dmg

It doesnt get any simpler then popping ur ult at the beginning to start with 3 stacks and autoing everything down for 70-100k per react hit

[tribal bone]

dont doubt, just not seeing him as this top 3 unit yet cus all im seeing is pretty much agood unit from abyss clears. again, i might just not bee seeing the exact comp or what ever

[misty grail]

In autos

In a way hes arlecchino but dendro tbh

Ppl who upload their shit arent rly that good

Theres ppl who can do better with faster times

Aka xianyun diluc can clear shit in 10-20s

Does that make him top 3?

No

Abyss clears of mins are irrelevant

Its about how sustainable they are

[tribal bone]

well if the hardest content in the game is irrelevant ... it makes it pretty hard to tell what is

[misty grail]

I just said how is measured by, how sustainable it is aka ease of use dupe req or no, how high the ceiling of dmg is

If we went by abyss clear times

Eula would be top 1

C6

[tribal bone]

what im seeing is that on average he is doing 60k to 40k per reaction

that is pretty good damage

[cosmic crown]

i put mualani on top of my tierlist because of armpit

[misty grail]

Ye and his dmg is lower or half that in a hyperbloom comp

[tribal bone]

he mostly does more damage than kimchi man

[misty grail]

His dmg goes higher if he starts at 3 stacks

[tribal bone]

that on a electro comp wwith nahida

again i said per reaction

you can have like 2 reactions per second

[misty grail]

Aka how he maintains his dmg uptime is thru mirror stacks

[tribal bone]

his rotation seems pretty easy

[misty grail]

1 mirror stack gives him dendro infusion

And he can get that by e charge atk plunge or burst which gives 3

More mirror stack changes the way his auto atks work

And it becomes aoe

And does more dmg

[misty grail]

Yes it is, all u do is pop q and auto atk and if u needa regen a stack u pop e or charge atk

U can basically have perma dendro infusion

Hes legit arlecchino but dendro

[tribal bone]

feel like raiden should be petty amazing with him since her E is just there all the time

[misty grail]

Yes hence why i said fischl or raiden

Any electro off field will do

Never bring a hydro

Iirc theres a video of one of the hardest annoying abyss rotation boss

Geo wolf lord

Ppl complained about needing geo to clear it and dying to stall dots

Alhaitham can one rotation it before the boss gets up

Pretty sure u can youtube that, alotta ppl flexed their c0 al abyss geo wolf lord one rotation clears

[tribal bone]

if u dont mind sending the video

cus i have no idea what boss this is

LOL

[spark jasper]

i have relatable alhaitam build and hes really strong

[misty grail]

I'll look for it when i get home at work atm break over

Ye i bet even hopsinka alhaitham can one rotation geo wolf lord in abyss nowadays

[spark jasper]

well not sure about that without nahida c2 but maybe

[misty grail]

I remember ppl were so mistaken for using him as hyperbloom then found out his true dmg is in spread

[misty grail]

Nah u can i seen some c0 clears

When i get home lyn i try to find the vid later lol

[spark jasper]

i mean he is basically still spread dps even in hyperbloom

if not using too much hydro

quicken aura stays often enough

furina is good because she doesnt apply hydro that fast

[misty grail]

I just use zhongli instrad for extra shred

And tanking hits

[tribal bone]

the new natlan artifact set, what is it good for unit wise, i feel like it can only be good on natlan characters yeah

or am i seeing stuff wrong

[quartz cargo]

no you're right

but the second set is good for Natlan supports on any team

[elfin jay]

childe kinda fell off since fountaine, he still works incredible but not as well as before due to enemy hp pools. what those speed run childe vod dont tell you is the number of resets to vape burst

[tribal bone]

k k thanks

i should prob still keep the EM and ER pieces

hm

and the blue set, its prob gonna be good for the arcon i bet

[restive falcon]

cinder set is like aite for anyone who cant use totm noblesse

[tribal bone]

totm ?

sorry ive not played this game since dehya release

[restive falcon]

dis one

[elfin jay]

think its generally better. unless damage % is oversaturated

[restive falcon]

yea resin efficient too

chevy could use it for now

[tribal bone]

him when he wrote that

[quartz cargo]

EM of the support set might be good in the future for wink wink the Archon

[spark jasper]

do u guys think there is chance albedo rerun gonna be on normal banner ever again or hes stuck to these special regional banners

[cosmic crown]

dragonspine event on 5.3

maybe?

[spark jasper]

i kinda want albedo for chiori

[misty grail]

@tribal bone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtuUIpnTm9w f2p comp with lisa and alhaitham nahida and i guess yae, i guess the dude didnt have raiden or fischl

and this is someone else's @tribal bone https://youtu.be/c2zmtMMs0T4

all c0 alhaithams

@tribal bone a low CV alhaitham guy even says his gear is dogshit https://youtu.be/LhQKa6QKHb8

[tribal bone]

nah but that C0 is as good as a c6

did you see his stats

[misty grail]

which c0

[tribal bone]

thats A LOT of primos on runs in artifact domains

LOL

[misty grail]

there are 3 dif c0 videos

of 3 dif players

i linked here

[tribal bone]

the second video you just sent

[misty grail]

hes using jade cutter lyn

his cv in that one is bloated

cuz hes using jade cutter

[tribal bone]

whats a cv

[misty grail]

he doesnt have alhaitham's BiS gacha signature wep

so hes coping with jade cutter

CV is crit value

so what u're seeing there is jade cutter inflating his crit

in the 2nd video

he even mentions it himself

[tribal bone]

ok it doesnt matter if he has a crit value weapon

when he has

[misty grail]

he doesnt have his signature

[tribal bone]

90crit rate

200 crit damage

400 EM

[misty grail]

that crit

[tribal bone]

and 2k attack

[misty grail]

is from again his jade cutter lyn

do u know how much crit jade cutter gives...?

thats not artifacts

[tribal bone]

that is such a unrealistic standard its insane

[misty grail]

lyn....

i like how u focus on that but didnt look at the first and 3rd video

3rd video bro has a garbage geared alhaitham

[tribal bone]

sure let me see the third

[misty grail]

he even mentions 183 cv thats like 4 star tier gear

is not unrealistic at all

jade cutter is not his BiS

u know how much crit jade cutter gives rite?

it gives 44% crit rate @tribal bone

so u could low roll or have no crit on ur artis

and still get get away with that inflated number

[tribal bone]

yeah he looks pretty good i still doubt i could even pull the ''trash'' geared one

thats 337 EM while having a on good goblet

[misty grail]

that one is legit just him min maxing rotations with trash gear

[tribal bone]

and having good crit rate

[misty grail]

no the EM is from nahida em share + dendro resonance

u're overvaluing how much EM he is getting from gear

u could have 0 em on alhaitham

and still reach that amount

from nahida em share + dendro resonance

well not that exact amount

[tribal bone]

oh

[misty grail]

but close to it

[tribal bone]

thats reasonable then

[misty grail]

like i said

most of these c0 alhaithams arent like giga gear carried

the 2nd one isnt even using his bis sword but a crit value sword

44% crit rate on a sword is the highest ever

well excluding alhaitham's signature

u could run a crit rate mask if u wanted with jade cutter

and reach 90-100% crit rate

u do not have to worry about crit when u're using a crit stat stick wep like jadecutter

[tribal bone]

still think he looks lame so i wouldnt pull LUL but i get it, he looks pretty amazing

[misty grail]

which offers literally almost half ur crit stats

well i mean hes an auto atk char

very few auto atk chars hit as hard as he does besides arlecchino

[tribal bone]

like i said, i think his design is lame

[misty grail]

u just swap him out to the field pop Q hit E when ever and hold LMB and go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

[tribal bone]

but well

thankfully hes not the only option

i can still use other units

[misty grail]

he is the only dendro hyper carry on field dps

he is the only option atm

[tribal bone]

you dont need it to beat the game

[misty grail]

oh obv not

hes just very f2p friendly

for how much dmg

he does

i liked his design personally

this is also him "nerfed" btw

they nerfed alhaitham twice in the test server

cuz he was "too strong"

these are post-nerf numbers

[tribal bone]

i mean you can say that for many units

[misty grail]

@tribal bone https://youtu.be/lHUy5jOpETg

[tribal bone]

tbh genshin kinda sucks cus they dont buff characters

[misty grail]

another one

[tribal bone]

after release

unless they release something else that makes them stronger

which is such a maybe

[misty grail]

no not many units retain being strong after being nerfed

[tribal bone]

op sure not, strong yeah there is quite a few

[misty grail]

i mean i can see why they had to nerf him

he does this much dmg even after nerfs

cant imagine how much harder he hit

pre-nerf

so ye i do agree for once the nerf was deserved

if he was hitting way harder before

but ye thats my point, his comps are usually electro+dendro even in that 4th video i just linked. U can def run him with hydro obv ofc, but thats not his best reaction for bigger dmg numbers

but if u want his results its usually not hyperbloom but spread

i guess furina like someone mentioned could work cuz she doesnt apply hydro as often? Idk

oye i forgot they all using gilded set too, so more em from there as set bonus @tribal bone

u could legit run low or no em and still get high em

[tribal bone]

makes sense

[misty grail]

like if u wanna see a geared alhaitham

this dude legit effortlessly clears every abyss in a few seconds

[tribal bone]

get pissed off seeing this stats

lmao

[misty grail]

my kinich stats at lv 90

[misty grail]

after lv 90 didnt even raise his skills

[fair grove]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MF8LURwyfKg?feature=share

🥵

I'm reinstalling

instant c6r5

[quartz cargo]

how much did you swipe

[misty grail]

thats just c2 lol

i wonder if he can hit up to 800k+ with c3 tho

not using his BiS arti set either

oh and nah didnt swipe i had 46k gems +41 pulls saved up from skipping banners, surprisingly the patch I didnt swipe on @quartz cargo

[quartz cargo]

Im not swiping cons

Im banking on Mavuika being really good

[misty grail]

ye i didnt either was all my saved gems and i didnt care for the rerun banners + mualani

[fossil hollow]

30 dollars for this

[elfin jay]

Hell nah

[misty grail]

oh hell nah is 15$ if u go to mcdonalds

they doubled the price on thios 3rd party site

[quartz cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115760358645309480/1287051842265550900/favge_xilonen.mp4?ex=66f023ef&is=66eed26f&hm=f46ff0c1336b27631de6d0937f2afe867066243975e1f1bb1b416101c9c3a85a& For anyone thinking of pulling Xilonen sig

[last crane]

why is her sig looking broken

i wanna save for mavuika's sig

[elfin jay]

it got nerfed a few times.

unless the other banner weapon is really good too, nah for me.

[last crane]

same i'll also wait to see who she'll get paired with

[tribal bone]

dont we already know who she is paired with

[elfin jay]

who?

chiori?

[dawn token]

ya

they could always end up switching her tho

[tawny iris]

its like kazuha sig probably

[elfin jay]

oh, that chiori sword is ok..for haitham or albedo kekqing but nah..

[tawny iris]

nice to have as a luxury but a distraction from the character otherwise

[spark jasper]

very relatable dmg

[spark jasper]

best i can do this banner before 50/50

[elfin jay]

Living on the edge

[spark jasper]

i was hella risking

because i got kinich at 8

[elfin jay]

Calculated risk

[spark jasper]

not going over 50/50 fuck that

his c1 is good

but i want char rather

and even after c1 its still 3 more so ye

[spark jasper]

was dumb i should never do this tbh i got punished for this before

[elfin jay]

Me looking for 4*s candeez, kuki, rosaria

[spark jasper]

also her cons not really doing anything unless its c1 or c6 anything in between doesnt do anything pretty much

[elfin jay]

This is why, I don't want chev enough to risk it

Her design is ok

[spark jasper]

actually even c1 is scuffed because u cant really control it who gets it

she is really good 4* for c0

[elfin jay]

Will get her randomly from standard

[spark jasper]

thats what i though about mika

and never got his copy outside of his banner

mika rerun also wasnt in ages

was on monstandt special banner but ye thats scuffed

[quartz cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928113144671399946/1286411900556542022/Genshin_Impact_2024.09.19_-_15.34.16.59.DVR.mp4?ex=66f072f1&is=66ef2171&hm=7a473b099ad0b89b166fc10e9f417bb7c91e0b6dd7a1d1db78079c403a2cc8a9& Someone cracked the code

[spark jasper]

holy ppl in jstern discord are actually stupid

[quartz cargo]

?

[spark jasper]

they saying siegwine is better than kokomi

thats omega cope

[quartz cargo]

No it's actually true

because

[spark jasper]

there is only one niche case where she can be technically better and thats when u dont want hydro app to interupt reaction like mualani shes not even better in neuvillette furina team as healer because u losing 1 element from his passive unless u have his c1

[quartz cargo]

You dont need to think about uptime

with Sig

[spark jasper]

lol

kokomi also have no uptime ultimate can reset timer on jellyfish

*downtime

[quartz cargo]

You're comparing her to Kokomi, not in Mualani/Neuv teams

Kokomi is never in any of those teams

[spark jasper]

also u can use sac fragment on kokomi

if u really want all the time healing

kokomi is better in hyperbloom freeze shes also better driver

can hold TTDS

[quartz cargo]

Mind if I post your jstern comment in there without mentioning you?

[spark jasper]

i already told them

wait what jstern comment ?

[quartz cargo]

calling them stupid

[spark jasper]

lol

btw u really think kokomi is worse pull than dehya ?

dafuq

[quartz cargo]

yes

[spark jasper]

well u are not freeze and hyperbloom user ?

[quartz cargo]

Dehya offers IR, some additional Pyro app, potential buffs at literally 0 effort and can run multiple support sets

[spark jasper]

if no that make sense

[quartz cargo]

Using Freeze in 2024 is a handicap

hyperbloom I just have Baizhu

[spark jasper]

oh i also forget about nilou team kokomi is also better there than siegwine

[quartz cargo]

Or Alhaitham Nahida Kuki Hydro

[spark jasper]

ye baizhu should be better healer but sometimes u want hydro healer if for some reason cant fill hydro

i dont know i used kokomi a lot

and i have tons of chars

[quartz cargo]

In the worst case I can run Ayato driver Hyperbloom

[spark jasper]

i never regret pulling her

[quartz cargo]

and it would get good results

[spark jasper]

i also like kokomi design way more than siegwine

had 0 desire pull that char

but i dont think she would be last char i would pull that would be propably klee lol

from chars i missing

i really like wrio design but it suck that at c0 he kinda blow

he goes up 2 tiers with c1 which is kinda insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhapH0f1At0 i like her sound effects

oh wtf she actually turn into gepard

or cheetah

for split seconds

[velvet hollow]

Probably for C6

[spark jasper]

really ?

that would suck

well its only on walls

looks like

so i doubt its c6

[quartz cargo]

Yappatron 4000

[spark jasper]

whos that second char ?

citlali ?

[quartz cargo]

bratty granma gets her action

[spark jasper]

damn she gonna yap a lot

[spark jasper]

wait so xilonen is basically 40% hydro (natlan support set) dmg and 36% hydro shred for neuvillette furina team better kazuha with longer duration and healing

do we still want to run kazuha in that team or nah

[quartz cargo]

yes

you would play Neuv Furina Kazu xilo

[quartz cargo]

And that's C0, and on top of that Xilonen can trigger the 2p part of the set twice

[elfin jay]

Faruzan 2.0

[spark jasper]

i think mavuika gonna be better than kazuha there

but will see

[spark jasper]

oh ye it count as double right i hope mavuika have similiar passive because currently xilonen is kinda useless with kinich

[tribal bone]

No reason to run both have each for each team of abyss

That is the best outcome

[misty grail]

is it cuz of the burning reaction being procced+going into the blindspot green spot thingy?

cuz 6 E's is kinda insane

[spark jasper]

6 Es isnt possible no ?

that must be some super rng that blindspot spawning right where u are

which isnt possible no ?

[misty grail]

nah dunk legit linked the video

and showed 6 E's

[spark jasper]

wait i need to watch that wtf

oh he even fully missed one blind spot

interesting

on small enemies its kinda easy to reach blind spot really fast if its not on other side

problem is vs big ass enemies

6 is impossible

for example that drake in natlan

red one

his model hit box is massive and u can even get stucked inside of him

[misty grail]

u cant rly get stuck inside him as kinich as ur rotational skill will always be in a equivalent 360 from point of contact of where the enemy is

also u cant rly swap to a dif enemy for a new blindspot unless u stop spinning and just walk or dodge out of the spin

then ye u can swap to a dif enemy for a dif blindspot

or u kill said enemy for kinich to latch onto a dif enemy

so 6 is not impossible lol

[elfin jay]

dps xil

[tribal bone]

not bad

[blazing geyser]

[quartz cargo]

Archon generally means buff + damage

[quartz cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928113144671399946/1286822905447186473/16_5_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=66f148f8&is=66eff778&hm=d6c0318d60f4f39399c087a6ccc23e9743bb8097b947c028bfa8819b750daddc&

TLDR not using directional inputs is better

[misty grail]

ooooh

hes auto

[misty grail]

zamn 5 shots against a boss

[quartz cargo]

you can get 6 shots

do N2E N1E with hE perfectly

and Knich has to trigger burning

[misty grail]

https://youtu.be/WTPSY7f3m1M

[spark jasper]

@zinc harbor

[fiery night]

eula 2k24

[spark jasper]

btw does raiden E buffs summons of furina or its only for initial hit ?

oh wait thats only for burst

[cosmic crown]

[spark jasper]

how can u farm repeatable world quests so much extra work

[cosmic crown]

i stopped doing that

this is purely from dailies and domains

if i did that i wouldve gotten this a week earlier

[zinc harbor]

She still got it

[cosmic crown]

is your mika c6?

[spark jasper]

no

c4

[spark jasper]

oh u used some fragiles ?

i wish mika was c6 looks like he never going to be again on limited banners

[cosmic crown]

the one i got from bp

[spark jasper]

weird i took mualani everywhere

and she is still lv 9

wait not 9 only 8

u must used much more frailes than me

or is it in coop more ?

[cosmic crown]

i did coop weeklies

specially the whale

that shit have hydro res

[spark jasper]

only 3 times ?

[cosmic crown]

yeah

[spark jasper]

well im not doing weeklies with her in coop

[cosmic crown]

sometimes its faster in coop sometimes its not

i immediately leave coop when all of us bring hydro chara vs whale

[spark jasper]

but even if u done weeklies with her u would not have 2 full leveles

u must done something extra

are any friendship exp for quests or world stuff

[cosmic crown]

i just said i did not

[spark jasper]

wait if this is split into 3 chars

she gets less ?

[cosmic crown]

stop doing that since clorinde i think

[spark jasper]

no i meant some special one times quests

if something gives friendship exp or not

im pretty sure its because of this teapot because its splitting between 3 chars

[cosmic crown]

i dont think thats how that works

or maybe it does i always have 8 charas on my teapot so i just cant tell the difference

[spark jasper]

ye but who was without friendship when u clicked that chest

only mualani ?

or u had there also kachina

u skipped kinich right

[cosmic crown]

yeah

thank god they made whale 2nd phase possible to skip

[spark jasper]

ye but in coop

u usually get ppl with low dps

or they dmg it too much

and spawn orb

look she is at start of lv 8 i must be missing something

wait u done also domains farming in coop ?

because exp in those is doubled too

[cosmic crown]

no only weeklies

[spark jasper]

what

so how u have 2 full more levels

i dont get it

[cosmic crown]

my kachina is lvl 9 and she missed weekly exp

because i coop with mualani

[spark jasper]

bro

thats not only from weeklies

[spark jasper]

thats not 2 full levels

from just weelky ?

3 times per week

no shot

my kachina is on start of lv 8

i mean star 9

[cosmic crown]

oh wait

[cosmic crown]

i know why

[spark jasper]

ok

[cosmic crown]

i claim dailies in coop

[spark jasper]

oh yes

u get double ?

[cosmic crown]

yeah

[spark jasper]

ye that make sense

[cosmic crown]

oh yeah

i forgot

i have someone who's world is always open

[spark jasper]

i never do dailies in coop

[cosmic crown]

i just join them and claim encounter

and leave

[spark jasper]

wait does it work even with automatic claiming rewards for points ?

or u actually have to finish them manually

in coop

[cosmic crown]

you just join someone and claim this

[spark jasper]

lmao

so it works

[cosmic crown]

i craft condense

then join someone

[spark jasper]

but ye not like it matters i get it slower

i was just wondering

how u got that much

and this explain it

[cosmic crown]

shouldve focus on kachina

i wanna bench her

so bad

[spark jasper]

ye kachina sucks i dont want to use her either

[cosmic crown]

i feel like im always using mualani in natlan domain

[spark jasper]

for climbing i guess she is good

and she hold deepwood

for my kinich

[cosmic crown]

im trying the support nightsoul for her

and its clunky af

[spark jasper]

ye

that set on geo

is kinda weird

ngl

xilonen also gonna struggle trigger it

even more

but for main dps

it should not be problem

but if 2 elements u want to be buffed

thats kinda akward

she has 0 offield dmg

xilonen

but atleast both her ult and E does dmg

on cast

and few seconds after E

[cosmic crown]

assuming mualani's best team gonna me mualani emilie xilo and mavuika

[spark jasper]

mavuika gonna be by far best with that set because pyro react with everything

[cosmic crown]

who's holding who

deepwood

burning set

nightsoul support set

and maybe even instructor

[spark jasper]

yes that should be her best team nahida is if u want better personal dmg mualani

but xilo and mavuika should be core

oh

if u want to min max emilie dmg

u need deepwood

hmm

on mavuka

deepwood

because xilonen cant trigger it offield

but so as that natlan set

lol

if a lot

u want natlan set on her

i guess depends how much energy mavuika needs for ultimate

instructor there is no space for that

but i have no clue how xilonen gonna trigger mualani dmg with natlan set in mid fight that super akward

because hydro gonna be eated by mavuika pyro

so natlan set is propably best to put her for consistency and xilonen can trigger deepwwod

but that only gonna last 8s

her E have cd only 7s

[cosmic crown]

so maybe instructor on xilo

maybe mavuika can also buff emilie that we dont need deepwood

[spark jasper]

if u want more personal mualani dmg yes

but if u want emilie do more deepwood

mualani is first char i wish i hoarded instructor

we dont know how much dmg mauvika going to do offield

she could be also first really good burgeo trigger

so maybe stacking EM on her

like raiden c0

that team would be hella op

if i think about it

mualani doing crap ton of dmg while u doing also burgeons for like 20-30k

instructor would benefit greatly 2 chars in that team so it would be better to remove natlan set completely

only annoying thing about instructor is that u can only trigger it onfield no matter what char and for only 8s

[cosmic crown]

wait it doesnt matter where you chose the bounty? you get exp for all tribe reputation?

[velvet hollow]

Damn my RX 580 is no longer enough for genshin. This part of Natlan gets me 45fps

[elfin jay]

What's your settings

[misty grail]

r u sure is not ur mods 👀

[velvet hollow]

Almost all in medium, 1080p

[velvet hollow]

Nah, mods don't lag, it's just for characters.

[misty grail]

well depending on the textures used, some do sometimes

[velvet hollow]

Yeah but I only get lag in that part of natlan.

[misty grail]

ye its prob adding to it I mean on top of natlan

it seems like based on ur screenshot

u were already playing in low settings?

ur landmass looks less textured

what is it med or low settings?

[velvet hollow]

Nah, I have all in medium. I did change from 1.5 to 1.0 and still lag tho.

[misty grail]

yeee

prob a combination of natlan+mods

tho thats strange natlan is pretty small compared to previous region as it is only 5.0

wonder what could be the cause

i guess more wild life perhaps 🤔

[velvet hollow]

You might be right, I do get more consistent 60fps without the mods

[misty grail]

i mean ye mods do cause more apparent fps drops becuz u're adding in more textures to something

[velvet hollow]

Weird, I didn't have any lag in other parts of the map with mods.

[misty grail]

a good example of extra textures/polygons is VRchat modded stuff or that one old game elder scrolls/skyrim or w/e is called?

idr the name

and sometimes depending on how the mod skin was built

it could literally lag ur game harder than the game itself

could also just be ur cpu

[velvet hollow]

I thought it was this rock the reason for the lag

[misty grail]

lol maybe it adds to it, who knows 🤷

is the rock lagging u now?

[velvet hollow]

I just noticed, the screenshots don't show the amd stats

[velvet hollow]

Just like 5fps drops for a sec then it gets stable

[misty grail]

prob just loading things in

[elfin jay]

What's the 580 vram

8 GB should be fine

[velvet hollow]

8gb yeah

[misty grail]

ye might be the mods then or ur cpu

[velvet hollow]

But yeah, the mods are the problem. I did test it again. Like 20fps less the same part of the map

[misty grail]

is prob the textures they used on the mod just not being rly done well so is not loading as well or some shit idk

[velvet hollow]

Yeah but I would expect the same lag for every part of the game if it's a texture problem. Maybe that part of the map is more demanding

[misty grail]

perhaps

[velvet hollow]

Well, time to play without mods if I'm exploring natlan

[elfin jay]

I'm using a sec hand 3070 with 8gb ram. My old 1660 that died which is close to 580 had some ping issues and crash. But I don't know if it was faulty already or my undervolt and overclocked ram could be the issue

[gray oriole]

@quartz cargo how good/fun are the upcoming characters

should i get kinich or save

[tribal bone]

save

there is a second kazuha coming that looks pretty much the hottest girl in the game

and after that pyro archon

[bright token]

Zamn rare somber sighting

[quartz cargo]

Kinich is fun

Xilonen is just a Kazuha-tier support

the rest is unknown

[quartz cargo]

nah after that it's

[gray oriole]

i just checked and she is a geo unit tho

kinda odd

is she coming right after kinich?

[tribal bone]

so a whole update i can save les go

[tribal bone]

she has global shred while not even needing to do anything

she also has a upgraded wall climb from natlan

and she is turbo hot to top it off

at C2 she enables full geo comps and buffs a lot on other elements as well

but i highly recommend getting her Sig weapon

its better than constellations

she is easy to build

you just need ER and DEF

unless you want to do hyper investement just to do just little bit more damage when you dont really need to adding CV to your artifacts

[spark jasper]

u forget chasca

[bright token]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[spark jasper]

but i dont know when chasca realeasing exactly

[bright token]

Isnt chasca 4*

[spark jasper]

is she ?

[bright token]

Or is she 5

[spark jasper]

i think she should be 5*

[bright token]

Idk her design looks 4 to me

Might be wrong then

[tribal bone]

same she looks like an AI generated design

[spark jasper]

chiori also looked like 4* no ?

[tribal bone]

well

true

but we didnt really get much on 4 star department in natlan

[spark jasper]

Iansan 5* or 4* ?

[tribal bone]

and we are bound to get 1 or 2

i dont think they would make a trible leader a 4 star

[bright token]

Well either way i hope i win the 50/50 for xilo

If i lose it i think ill have to save for pyro arc

[spark jasper]

im 6 singles from 50/50 i also hope for 50/50 win

[tribal bone]

even tho the electro child trible leader looks 4 star as fuck

[gray oriole]

[spark jasper]

i wonder what she can do

what electro want

maybe she is overload or electro charge enhancer

[tribal bone]

not really caring about her, her design is dogshit

i hate children character

[spark jasper]

ye

[tribal bone]

they look so ass

[spark jasper]

i was just wondering what she can do

[tribal bone]

prob on field effec

i feel like she has that vibe

[spark jasper]

i hope she isnt super broken

i dont want to pull for her

[tribal bone]

and in doubt hoyo always does that

dont, dont worry

you dont need it

even if shes broken

game aint that hard

[spark jasper]

nah i have this problem even if i dont particulary like design i still pull cause its fun or really good meta wise

[misty grail]

[tribal bone]

well if the char is fun then i cant argue with you

cus that is a based take

i pulled for that 4 star wind guy that punches shit cus of that

[spark jasper]

oh ye sensei again showing his relatable c2r1

[tribal bone]

his gameplay looked amazing

[misty grail]

dunk was correct u dont press any direction

[tribal bone]

he was the first guy that they released that just punchest shit out

[misty grail]

and u can get consistent 4-6 E's

[spark jasper]

i said taht first

i said that even on fob channel and he start doing that

[misty grail]

idr u saying that but i remember dunk linking me how they achieve 6 possible E's

i dont watch fob

so i wouldnt know , i only know what dunk told me

[spark jasper]

im not sure if 6 is possible tho

without direction

[misty grail]

it s

u need to ult on the blindspot

[spark jasper]

but 4-5 should be pretty easy

[misty grail]

as it delays the duration

but builds meter

so u can do another E

[spark jasper]

oh on blind spot

[misty grail]

yes u elemental burst on top of blindspot

it extends

6 E's

smashing for 650k per

[spark jasper]

but doesnt blind spot imidietly disaper after u land on it

[misty grail]

slight linger, but u just ult rite on top of it

it doesnt disappear fast enough

[spark jasper]

and my meter must be empty right

before i ult

or it doesnt matter ?

[misty grail]

dont think it matters cuz it charges pretty fast

on blindspot

[spark jasper]

just dont ult if your E is read to be shot i guess

[misty grail]

ye

is a cheap way to extend the duration and gauge before it runs out

[tribal bone]

im somehow hurting for def% main stat artifcats somehow

when ever you need it they never come

bullshit i call it

[bright token]

I still have so much shit to explore in genshit tbh

But i can never find the time or energy

[spark jasper]

i wanted to explore for primos but i got kinich so early i dont need to

[tribal bone]

just use the interactive map and go little bit by little bit

see a patch of the map and start marking stuff up lol

thats what i did

got 100% on the pantanal just like that with minimum effort

[misty grail]

kinich is def nice for mobility travelling since u can swap mid air into him to contniue swinging like spiderman

xianyun E spam swap into kinich

is nice

alot of upwards vertical and horizontal mobility that u can tranverse up mountains pretty quickly or long distances

[elfin jay]

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⬛⬛🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟩🟩
⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛⬛🟩⬛🟨🟨🟨🟩🟩
⬛🟦⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛🟨🟧🟨🟧
🟨🟦🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟧🟨🟩🟩
🟨🟥🟥🟥🟥🟨🟨🟨🟧🟨🟧🟩🟩
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⬛️⬛️⬛🟨⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟨🟨
🟨🟨⬛️🟨⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟨🟨⬛🟨🟨
🟨🟨⬛️🟨⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟨🟨⬛🟨🟨

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1136231040185282581.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[tribal bone]

90 sec cd off natlan

[spark jasper]

@shut spoke hows your kinich

[shut spoke]

working

[spark jasper]

skipping ?

[shut spoke]

looks funny

[spark jasper]

he is similiar like navia but with less quick swap potential

[spark jasper]

so cringe raiden normals cant heal from mikas burst

[lone scarab]

Whelp

Looks like I’m finally getting a new phone

[spark jasper]

rip genshin funds

[spark jasper]

@misty grail itto still good i dont know why i used emilie on top half vs double dendro boss

[shut spoke]

[spark jasper]

i have only 4 milion mora

[shut spoke]

get like sensei 150mio

[spark jasper]

nah but i can get it up pretty easily

if i do explo

but ye i stopped buying BP and i can already see my mora going down and because i also pulling many chars in row

[lone scarab]

Actually for free

New iPhone 16

Gunna run that Genshit at 120p

[misty grail]

i feel like if u wanna game u would just get an android/samsung

over an iphone lol

since apple always throttles

[lone scarab]

It’s more so that I get iPhone for free because I have to have the FaceTime feature

[misty grail]

i feel like u could do that with most smartphones these days with an app lol

[elfin jay]

https://youtu.be/rTbjT24X60s?t 😂don't share this to jstern cord. @spark jasper

fell off

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103689140274475058/1130508521394421831/noo.gif

[spark jasper]

bbc tips lmao

what are these youtubers

[misty grail]

oh he said what i been saying for a long time, ye polearms plunge spd is giga slow compared to diluc or gaming is why hutao plunge is dogshit

i think its legit due to the xiao nerf

i think mihoyo fked up the nerf when they reduce xiao spd but increase it slightly during burst

and i think they dont care to revert it back

reason being no other wep class suffers a slower atk spd in plunge, sword for example doesnt

i wonder if they ever revert the nerfed slow atk spd during plunge animations for polearms if that would make hutao plunge viable

[dawn token]

but honestly watching kinich do hutao's entire rotation damage in one shot makes me look at my hu tao like

https://tenor.com/view/fishphone-gif-13874695746678282474

[misty grail]

[dawn token]

[elfin jay]

Yea Tao plunge is a myth

Memes and over exaggerations aside

[misty grail]

i legit genuinely think its due to the xiao nerf they prob coded it wrong and applied it to all polearms

so all polearms suffer becuz of xiao

[quartz cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-spread-money-green-hollow-gif-10834129378807194390

[misty grail]

nah ironically didnt spend on kinich patch cuz i saved up 46k gems

+41 pulls

[tribal bone]

Big black cock tips LMAO

[tribal bone]

close

[tawny iris]

I've been lazy about it

only level 6 for the collection thingy

[tribal bone]

cant afford to be lazy as im pure f2p any gem counts lol

[tawny iris]

they arent going anywhere

but its understandable if you want xilonen or mavuika

big names comin up

[tribal bone]

ima try to finish everything in this update then move to wet region so i can do that in the next update, there wont be any new region expansion

it will be a nice time to finish it

so i have about 6k primos to gather from exploratin and quest alone

so about 48 pulls

thats counting on the dailies

hmm let me see abyss reset also ads a bit to that and the new patch also with the events and what not

i can probably get that up to 100 pulls in a single patch

it will be enough to guaranty xilo plsu weapon with some leverage

since i already have 90

and i 40 pulls into the limited banner with the pity being guarantied banner unit

and 20 into weapon banner but that would be a 50 50

[tawny iris]

I've been saving just since like 2 weeks ago and I have 11k + 16 fates so youre probably undershooting

5.0 has been very generous

[terse spoke]

🎂

[tawny iris]

happy borfday again i suppose

[terse spoke]

[tribal bone]

im not i already have 90 pulls like i said and i pulled 30

so i would originally have 120 pulls

thats 19.200 gems

[tawny iris]

I meant undershooting your estimate. if things continue like this you will have more than what youre expecting

[tribal bone]

most definitelly it wont since we know the only thing we will get next update is a new waypoint

a couple of events

no expansion on the current region so no chests

[tawny iris]

10k without a new map in 5.1

so youll end up higher than you think

by a few thou

[tribal bone]

great then

but i have to take away 800 from imaginarium lol

i hate that mode

[misty grail]

U could prob get 600 from theater

[elfin jay]

finally got 290 er for bennett with aqulia on that new cinder set. but im out of exp matts

[tawny iris]

just in time for mavuika to make him obsolete

[quartz cargo]

why would you swap to that from Noblesse?

[tribal bone]

pretty sure its looking like she is replacing xiangling not him

[misty grail]

Any kinich nukers in the chat?

[quartz cargo]

no I dont pay for damage

[misty grail]

Any eulapowercreep havers?

[misty grail]

Cant pay if they were all freemogems

But i will be paying for mauvilka

Imagine not having 46k primos and 41 pulls smh dunk

This was 2-4weeks ago i forgot to take an ss when i had 46k gems 😔

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1259024003096510546/1283642459938754600/image.png?ex=66f38eb3&is=66f23d33&hm=cae0936360f59e852e2ad849df72af0c4bd2e676aadd4f7d6519a4e82b49fa4e&

@quartz cargo just skip months worth of banners dunk 😔

And u too can save up enough for a c2 kinich

[fathom laurel]

[shut spoke]

[misty grail]

Final total iirc was 46k or 47k primos and 41 pulls before i burned it on kinich

[elfin jay]

idk, i heard its better than instructor or nobellsse, since im farming domain for xilonen, might as well

[fathom laurel]

there is a case for it to be better than noblesse

[elfin jay]

i can flex my fates too

[elfin jay]

idk,12% damage vs attk buffs

[fathom laurel]

yeah that

bento already give 1.2k atk without noblesse

[elfin jay]

for childe you just apply hydro first and vape

i guess you need to do reactions.

for wanderer or ittou or some non reaction carry, no

[fathom laurel]

seems niche since benny needs to trigger the reaction

you can't do swirl with him

and you need to first apply an element then swap to him

[elfin jay]

or rational.

thats the teams i use, so, fine for me

[fathom laurel]

yeah if you can trigger a reaction with him cinder might be better

[misty grail]

I use cw on my bennet cuz hes a dps

And he solos theater floors

On top of buffing

C6 bennet dps

[misty grail]

Ok but how many primos u saved up

Does it beat my 47k

[elfin jay]

a few times it

im welkin only and never topped up 🤓

[misty grail]

Same same

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1259024003096510546/1288151930786283530/image.png?ex=66f42479&is=66f2d2f9&hm=b40592b95fc64f7f05faf54b099e30c95661822bf24a0e09cb72b037a1a45eec&

Heres mine

[elfin jay]

looks very familiar

[misty grail]

Mere coincidence

[quartz cargo]

True, that's the Wanderer approach I took

[elfin jay]

that c6 luccsacc

not a waifu thou.

[misty grail]

Coulda been a c6 kinich wasted luck 😔

[elfin jay]

dru

[stuck sonnet]

https://imgur.com/SUfNDCK

this looks really good

[spark jasper]

this event was fun

[spark jasper]

imagine playing gacha and barely wishing

u should c6 some char u realy like with that much tho

[elfin jay]

Wdym, you shaming me for not wishing?

I've been wishing, you guys just Gacha addicted.

Gotta get every new fresh char every patch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035012600276197396/1260659627343741030/LacGacha.gif

[spark jasper]

for me its fun collecting chars