#Wuthering Waves

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dusty smelt
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link the vid

woeful nexus
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the char size affects i frames

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not by much tho

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ill have to look for it

toxic osprey
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sensei, iframe is word invented by steve jobs

dapper pulsar
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verina has like 64 frames

dusty smelt
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u know how i cleared tempest holo 5 yday? By not using that swap mechanic and also by using my nekked ass jianxin i guess

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cuz verina just kept

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dying

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fking verina

woeful nexus
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just

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dont use verina intro in those fights

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unless its to parry

bleak kindle
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Its a party yesh

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Parry

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Just use it as one

woeful nexus
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everyone knows how ass it is to use verina in fast fights like those

dusty smelt
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nah man she needs more iframes to make up for being short

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make it the whole atk swap animation

woeful nexus
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i cant find the vid I saw about it

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oh wait

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its sweetily's vid prolly

dapper pulsar
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its the sweetily one no?

woeful nexus
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ye

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here @dusty smelt

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get ready for the voice thio

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you need to prepare to hear sweetily voice

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NOTLISTENING

dusty smelt
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shes fighting lv 80 crownless, I beat lv 90 crownless today

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without mechanics

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underlvled btw

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therefore I do not need this video

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jk i will watch

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calcharo 70 frames

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verina 48

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oh 72

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for taller male chars

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almost double the iframes

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WAIT

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CALCHARO HAS 74 FRAMES????

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HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

bleak kindle
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Need those 100 iframes

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Surely

dusty smelt
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damn calcharo

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tall buff

woeful nexus
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small chars are actually nerfed

dusty smelt
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bro calcharo literally has 40% more iframes that verina

woeful nexus
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the cool tech she gives is nice to know tho

weak lagoon
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Guide gamers

dusty smelt
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74 vs 48

weak lagoon
dusty smelt
woeful nexus
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that you can delay counter attacks for the i frames

dusty smelt
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I literally have just been playing on instinct

bleak kindle
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Whats the point of comparing iframes even

dusty smelt
woeful nexus
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idk its funny

weak lagoon
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I mean people who use guides in general

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Not you

dusty smelt
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oh ok

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ye laugh at em

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point and laugh at em

woeful nexus
weak lagoon
bleak kindle
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Okay but

woeful nexus
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literally the easiest

bleak kindle
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What about reading

dusty smelt
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my instincts are never wrong

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instinct gamer

woeful nexus
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you dont ahve to

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legit

dusty smelt
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no fk u BASEDHALT

woeful nexus
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aix diff 6 is the easiest and also the squishiest

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thats why people cleared it as early as level 60

dusty smelt
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I do not care BASEDHALT i never doubt my instincts

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thats bad juju

gray tendon
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Game not even 6 months old. I don't expect so for f2p give it a year +

dusty smelt
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OH

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wait

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counter atks gives iframes too?

woeful nexus
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yes

dusty smelt
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i been abusing it the whole time

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without knowing

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no wonder

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yinlin's counter atks felt good

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i was spamming that shit against crownless 5

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cuz it felt "good" instinctually

woeful nexus
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crownless holo gives buffs to counter attacks anyway

dusty smelt
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so i was delaying the counter atks on purpose

woeful nexus
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think

dusty smelt
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oh i didnt know that

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i didnt read

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im not a guide gaymer

woeful nexus
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counter attacks get like +100% crit damage

dusty smelt
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i dont read

woeful nexus
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and

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each dodge

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gives +15% crit damage

broken torrent
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kek the difference between good and shit gear

dusty smelt
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but also was moreso just it felt better to dodge on yinlin

strange helm
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whats wrong with guide gamer ?

dusty smelt
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and counter atk on yinlin

strange helm
dusty smelt
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nothing we're memeing

strange helm
dapper pulsar
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any guide gamers

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what mainstat echoes of jinshi

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if 44

dusty smelt
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but ye that explains alot on why i thought delaying yinlins counter atk after a dodge felt good

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I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ICANT

strange helm
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cdmg x 2

elder fable
dusty smelt
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and this video now explains it to me

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wow i was doing mechanics without even knowing i was doing mechanics

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instinct gayymer WICKED

dusty smelt
# dapper pulsar if 44

crit dmg crit dmg if ur substats good can reach 70/300 with cdmg x2 if not, then cr cdmg

dusty smelt
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more so just jinhsi and yinlin

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cuz i was scared to take out verina

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cuz she dodges for shit

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with her lidl

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swap atk

woeful nexus
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just dont intro to her

dusty smelt
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i just dunk on crownless first phase

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with jinhsi

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then 2nd phase

bleak kindle
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Just farm 2 aux

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For tower use cc

dusty smelt
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i just yinlin dodge atk till jinshi rdy during phase 2

bleak kindle
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For holo cdmg eith critfood

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With*

dusty smelt
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yall can use foods?

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where yall getting foods from?

toxic osprey
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sweet chin music and i wont pass the aux

bleak kindle
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70/300 is way worse than 90/260

dusty smelt
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jokes on u

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im 86/266

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with cr cdmg

bleak kindle
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Yeah i mean thats the goal

dusty smelt
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i havent even lvled the skills yet that gives cr and atk %

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becuz I am a poor mf from tacet gambling

bleak kindle
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Get 2nd cmdg echo

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Pop cc food

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And look at the numbers

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I did half of hp bars of. Holo 6 bosses

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With 1 e rotation

dusty smelt
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where yall getting these foods

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do i already own the knowledge to make em

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or do i gotta buy them fancy recipes

bleak kindle
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Idk prob one of the collectibles or cooking levels

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Dont rememeber

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U should prob have the purple recipe

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For cc food

elder fable
bleak kindle
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Mods

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He is cheating

dusty smelt
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i can get those stats

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if i dodge crownless 4x

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cuz apparently according to epig

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i gain cdmg

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anyways this was an informational video good to know

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noted: never use short chars ever again

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continue using calcharo danknotes

woeful nexus
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nice food buffs

elder fable
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yeah it's the 22% crit rate food

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and s3 proc

north bloom
strange helm
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support

weak lagoon
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looks mid compared to yinlin changli and wuxia girl

weak lagoon
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yeah

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even yapyap looks better

elder fable
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so there are no males in 1.2?

north bloom
spring berry
strange helm
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leaks were right

woeful nexus
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giga skip

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unless Zhezhi is a super strong support or something

weak lagoon
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4 star design looking ahhh

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they overcooked

spring berry
woeful nexus
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at least its a skip patch for me

late prairie
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Fujo money for xiangli yao

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Code geass looking ahh

late prairie
toxic osprey
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skip frogs

woeful nexus
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i can go all in for changli now

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and not worry

elder fable
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huge W for male rover

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another glazer

weak lagoon
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and 1.2 is supposed to be a filler patch right

woeful nexus
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1.3 will be biiig

spring berry
jolly condor
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omggg i'm skipping changli i guess

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am i the only one that actually likes zhezhi lol

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glasses buff maybe idk

woeful nexus
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some people find her cute

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not my type tho

jolly condor
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i like her more than any 5* in the game

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i'm not coping

elder fable
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why

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is it the eyes

weak lagoon
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its the flat chest

jolly condor
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lmao

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it's the glasses ๐Ÿ˜”

jolly condor
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my weakness

woeful nexus
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she looks like shes about to cry

jolly condor
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honestly if they nerf changli a little bit i would've pulled

weak lagoon
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so its because she is flat

woeful nexus
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so you mean her tits are too big

jolly condor
obtuse pecan
weak lagoon
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there is this game called blue archive

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you might enjoy that more than wuwa

jolly condor
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nah but those are underage ๐Ÿ’€

woeful nexus
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im mostly just

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pulling for Changli cus she looks cool

jolly condor
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another reason i don't wanna touch zzz anymore other than the tv shit is because most characters are kids

woeful nexus
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a common complaint

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even the lim char everyone likes

obtuse pecan
jolly condor
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i'll play it when zhu yuan is out

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i'll play it again*

weak lagoon
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what about la gata

woeful nexus
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whos that

jolly condor
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who tf is lagata

jolly condor
obtuse pecan
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isnt the new teased character for 1.1 also a kid

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zhu yuan partner

jolly condor
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another kid Deadge

elder fable
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we need more flatties

icy hull
jolly condor
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true!!

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if zhezhi is glacio, i'm gonna be a glacio simp and build a glacio waifu team

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(not with l*ngyang)

woeful nexus
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zhezhi sounds like Glacio

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from the sfx leaks

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well then

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time to raise Jianxin

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need a braindead char to use

jolly condor
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tfw only useful in realm

woeful nexus
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nah

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shes pretty good in general content

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shes just not

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amazing

unkempt cove
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Potential the guy is free

woeful nexus
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where did you hear that

jolly condor
unkempt cove
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The guy looks like the dood from classroom of the elite too

elder fable
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both give off

woeful nexus
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but its fine

elder fable
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4 star vibes

woeful nexus
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she has fat shield

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true

jolly condor
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imagine if that thing was as fast as havoc rover

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in an instant

woeful nexus
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the insanity of Jianxin is that she has insane self sustain

woeful nexus
unkempt cove
jolly condor
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wait really? damn i've been sleeping on her

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make maqi playable Madge

woeful nexus
elder fable
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please

woeful nexus
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in tower as well she has

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literal Venti ut

elder fable
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don't release 2 females

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let me save

unkempt cove
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I think jianxins grouping is shit

jolly condor
unkempt cove
woeful nexus
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er

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kinda

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Jianxin is very fucking weird

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shes a subdps/support

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literal jack of all trades

woeful nexus
unkempt cove
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Ya

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Like the one with 4 enemies before heron

woeful nexus
unkempt cove
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Yeah let's just group like 2 of them at the start

weak lagoon
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male units

unkempt cove
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And her shield is impossible to build up in tower

woeful nexus
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eh

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her shield is just impossible to build in any content

weak lagoon
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whats with the jianxin cope

woeful nexus
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its worse in holograms

weak lagoon
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that unit gets gapped by 4 stars

woeful nexus
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time to do something retarded

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i went and +25 an echo

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PepeLaugh \

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woooow

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insannely dogshit

inner maple
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omg hot men

woeful nexus
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you call that hot

strange helm
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think Zhezhi will be the broken supp

north bloom
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his tacet mark is on his hair HmmTea

jolly condor
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imagine hair loss is your biggest enemy

unkempt cove
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kuro might follow the free S (5 star) rank every few patches

jolly condor
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also where is zhezhi's tacet mark

unkempt cove
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so inb4 this guy is a free 5 star

strange helm
weak lagoon
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wait

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so if he balds

strange helm
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idk man

weak lagoon
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he loses his tacet mark

north bloom
inner maple
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omg just like rover

unkempt cove
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you say cope but cn pgr just got a free S rank and in a few days, global getting a free S rank

strange helm
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yeah thats PGR

jolly condor
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feels like playing a hidden object game and then you're when i use one of my clues to reveal it

strange helm
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this game literally copy 90% genshit

unkempt cove
woeful nexus
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hope they copy pgr

unkempt cove
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and then this

woeful nexus
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ust make banger skins

north bloom
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free li for powercreeping lee

unkempt cove
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if he's a 5 star

north bloom
inner maple
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Prayge skin

toxic osprey
icy hull
strange helm
jolly condor
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imagine glacio buff and lingyang becomes viable monkaLaugh

unkempt cove
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and they are both 5 stars

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because of the 4 stars on the top right

strange helm
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i can only 24 star

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tower

inner maple
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is the tower like genshin abyss

unkempt cove
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yeah

inner maple
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maybe I need to start playing the side story Deadge

toxic osprey
strange helm
north bloom
jolly condor
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clutch

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i regret wasting so much resources on crit rate inferno rider tbh

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should've gotten a crit dmg inferno rider

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๐Ÿ˜ž

north bloom
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pull changli's wep and use crit rate rider Okayge

covert yoke
jolly condor
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it's for chixia kek

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i don't think i'm pulling changli

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it's because the 5* standard is a crit rate Deadge

stiff arch
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free? HmmTea so he's not the other 5* char?

unkempt cove
dapper pulsar
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1.2 chars look skippable

woeful nexus
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very

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any skippers

dapper pulsar
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Bedge designs

stiff arch
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aint judging till i see their gameplay Gladge

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if they're both mid guess i'll settle for changli

strange helm
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Zhezhi gonna be broken af

woeful nexus
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if shes a support

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watch her be the ruan mei of wuwa

covert yoke
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@bleak kindle log in

bleak kindle
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Huh

covert yoke
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are u slacking

bleak kindle
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Yes

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Just getting out from work

covert yoke
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rip all ur exp

bleak kindle
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Why

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Zhezhi looking aight though

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They gotta cook harder with that guys moveset though

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If they wanna sell him at all

woeful nexus
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its going the be the gun char

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hopefully they make him fun to play at least

inner maple
bleak kindle
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Getting jinshi c2 was a correct chocie

woeful nexus
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literal qol buff

bleak kindle
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Not rly

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U dont get enough stacks normally

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If u do back and forth and not full cyclr

unkempt cove
woeful nexus
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huh

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whats that

unkempt cove
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dunno

woeful nexus
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from the name it looks like it changes echoes

unkempt cove
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surely something in regards to substats CLUELESS

woeful nexus
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if its a substat reroller that would be

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something

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if we could choose what to get

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otherwise its bad

jolly condor
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omg let's gooo

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i don't mind if it's random substat, cus i legit for the love of god can't find a fusion 3 cost without malleable

dapper pulsar
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substat value reroller probably

covert yoke
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story was quick

late prairie
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appreciate it about wuwa tbh

covert yoke
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genshit could never

woeful nexus
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its quick cus of skip

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hope they do at least

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keep up the interesting story at 1.2

late prairie
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i didnt skip 1.1 and it's short and sweet (in comparison to mihoyo)

woeful nexus
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well

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mihoyo from my experience has omega yap

late prairie
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zzz is probably their most concise and it's still long af

woeful nexus
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wuwa copied it from them and you can see it as well

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its why I dont want to get into hsr story

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even if people say its good

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im sick of games having insane yapping sprees

late prairie
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HSR didn't use to yap so much, penacony was insane though

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maybe because they brought in shaoji from HI3

woeful nexus
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im just sick of it

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and I came from VN style gachas

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the amount of yapping

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i cant

elder fable
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that guy is apparently

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electro fists

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calcharo powercreep if limited

late prairie
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oh didnt realize tower is just 2 weeks crumpCariDent

strange helm
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adventurine

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master of yap

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i just click click click

late prairie
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sunday and his fucking bird too kek

woeful nexus
elder fable
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yeah

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leaks say he's fists now

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makes sense given the arms

woeful nexus
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yuanwu powercreep

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does look like the follow pgr's style for betas

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the info of new character is halfway through the patch

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and beta starts a few weeks before

late prairie
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yuanwu will always have a place with my jinhsi Meowdy im totally not being ntr-ed

mystic void
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if yao don't have that electric tower yuanwu is still good with jinhsi

late prairie
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hopefully that electro guy is free

elder fable
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if he's free I quit

late prairie
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y

elder fable
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because I need to save

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unless it's like

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that hsr char

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that was free

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but still had a banner running

late prairie
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that's how i assume it will go

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except if they release camellya too i guess

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but no way

jolly condor
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so xiangli is gauntlet huh

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then what is zhezhi

elder fable
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she's a sword

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or greatsword

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since it involves a brush

polar vine
spring berry
elder fable
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a 431 view video on bilibili

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it might be over

woeful nexus
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classic

polar vine
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i'm just trying to stir the pot

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got removed already

woeful nexus
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because its a dumbass trying to drama bait again

strange helm
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so be prepared

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for the bird talk again

north bloom
icy hull
spring berry
polar vine
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isnt that literally just PGR chips

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for ur memory sub-stat or whatever

icy hull
strange helm
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Yinlin with Xiangli Yao

icy hull
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The only reason why Mortefi dps is similar to Yuanwu is because we compare him with a 5* weapon and Yuanwu with a 4*, his dps is way lower otherwise

strange helm
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Jinhsi with Zhezhi

elder fable
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why yuanwu

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they not gonna

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release another subdps

weak lagoon
elder fable
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it's replacing calcharo

weak lagoon
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release a big tiddy goth girl

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fr

strange helm
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kakaro

strange helm
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bro wuwa actually rent free in r/gachagaming

unkempt cove
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or maybe zzz is just dog shit

polar vine
late prairie
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doubt kuro will do the botting thing btw its probably tencent as usual

unkempt cove
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what i see:

sand lion
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funny thing is skip banner after some show case skill and shit

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pull

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also

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1.2 is the rest mode 1.3 should be huge shit

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over work because of mistake

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like

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Doc

jolly condor
unkempt cove
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should be

north bloom
sand lion
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playing around and fuck it up

north bloom
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devs listened CatChest

unkempt cove
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E E E E E

sand lion
unkempt cove
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sand lion
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I want to give them some

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of my ideas

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I learned about business so I know how to write and sharing idea properly

weak lagoon
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E E E E E E E

unkempt cove
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the feedback option in game

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or wait for survey

sand lion
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I mean u have to choose

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the option top

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dam

north bloom
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probably this

sand lion
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ok

woeful nexus
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i hope the guy really is free

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if im skipping next patch I want at least a new character

sand lion
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๐Ÿ’€

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only spend money on female

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giving out op free guy

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that is base

unkempt cove
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probably is free. Otherwise, they gotta chill with all these 5 stars

sand lion
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btw which single player open world is good?

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I giving them some idea + content

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my mind is filled with combat

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and boss animation

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ELDEN RING

jolly condor
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just farmed 4 inferno riders and i get 3 crit damage out of 4, how lucky is this?

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wait this is huge, i literally have def/atk inferno riders

unkempt cove
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1/3rd chance i guess?

jolly condor
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what are the possible 1st main stat?

unkempt cove
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forgot how many stats for boss echoes

icy hull
jolly condor
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does this apply for all 4 costs or just certain 4 costs

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i might have just used up all my luck then

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i'm ready to roll def and hp substats

north bloom
unkempt cove
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all the possible main stats for boss echoes, yes

dapper pulsar
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how does that even happen om

north bloom
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spaghetti

jolly condor
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is it still like this?

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if you remove all your weapons and echoes and it's still like this, you're basically permanently scammed 20% crit rate

north bloom
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nop they fixed it Gladge

woeful nexus
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DEVSLISTENED

icy hull
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compensation

sand lion
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I curious are they learning while making the game using ue 4

woeful nexus
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nah

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its the usual

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they fix something witht he game

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another part of the camera gets fucked

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el classico

sand lion
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they brute force

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making the game

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forsen

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viewers

reef matrix
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Bro im a sweaty f2p and im 52 how tf is an f2p level 60

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And i dont mine not being able to full clear as im progressing

woeful nexus
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my god how long are you backlogging

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that conversation was 6 hours ago

reef matrix
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First 15 then 18 then 21 and next i can easily 26

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So as long as until i see growth pr rotation their is no problem

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If im stuck at same point after next rotation then its a big problem

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Because i do farm guranteed stuff

reef matrix
dusty smelt
dusty smelt
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slacccccking Kapp

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looks like it might be true

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oh so its tencent

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ofc its tencent

raven gyro
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HesRight

dusty smelt
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tencent still mad damnnnnn

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tencent never the same ever since hoyo rejected their offer to put their game into their app store or some shit back then

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anyways i dont get the ZZZ hate tbh, game looks polished, after seeing Thor/Piratesoftware play and give his review (mind u I didnt see any zzz gameplay before his stream) I think it looks good ngl

mystic void
dusty smelt
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still not gona play zzz but it def doesnt look as bad as some ppl have made it seem

mystic void
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it looks and plays great

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just very simple

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and boring

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and don't let me start on the tvs

dusty smelt
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ye thats wut i got from like some friends who have tried zzz and stuck with it, and thor too, they all said it feels and plays great

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like the feedback from the button mash feels good

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thor dosnt usually give high praise to gacha games and he finds it fun so it must not be THAT BAD if Thor of all ppl enjoys the game and is gonna continue playing it

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friends also said "it just feels fun to play"

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so the combat must actually feel good

elder fable
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his source was a 400 view video

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on bilibili

dusty smelt
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if they all said the same thing

elder fable
dusty smelt
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u mean the astroturfing?

elder fable
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it didn't link to the original post

woeful nexus
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but can understand when people dont like the game

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thats normal

elder fable
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or any forum discussion

dusty smelt
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ooooh i was reading the comments

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and saw the link there

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not the video

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but someone posting

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some bilibili vtuber

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talking in chinese

woeful nexus
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its just another drama baiter

elder fable
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that bilibili vtuber didn't even show that image

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he was just speculating

dusty smelt
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the chinese drama/rumor mill go crazy

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is kinda unhinged ngl

elder fable
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not to mention this happened

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and asmon even pulled his stats on stream

dusty smelt
elder fable
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and said his stream also got botted

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by the same bots

woeful nexus
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eh

mystic void
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it's the OP's way to try and invalidate any criticism zzz might get by painting any criticism is from kuro shills

woeful nexus
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personally seeing gameplay of it im not a huge fan

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might try it now tho just becasue Im really fucking bored

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ill see what its about but I wont stay

mystic void
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get your blanket ready

elder fable
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there was no thread about it on gachagaming then

mystic void
dusty smelt
# elder fable

ye ik what that is i seen it before asmon explained it could just be bots trying to pretend not to be bots by copying the most common msg OMEGALUL

woeful nexus
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its a cesspit

dusty smelt
mystic void
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also reminder use a controller

faint river
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zzz feels pretty good. I like the urban vibes. good performance on release compared to other gachas

mystic void
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do not use a mouse

woeful nexus
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im waiting for updates on all my gachas

dusty smelt
woeful nexus
dusty smelt
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the "game just feels good to play"

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is what everyone has told me

woeful nexus
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ive seen gameplay of it

dusty smelt
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sometimes its good to mash buttons mindlessly

woeful nexus
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the shit I dont like so far is the forced qte

dusty smelt
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thats a surprise thor loved the qte

woeful nexus
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i dont

dusty smelt
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cuz its so explosive and receptive

mystic void
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there's a reason why QTE was removed from modern gaming

faint river
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maybe chill gameplay at the start, i didn't even try the endgame yet

woeful nexus
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i like playing a character in my own timing

dusty smelt
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i guess us oldheads dont mind it too much since its not the hardest qte ever

woeful nexus
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I want to swap when I want to

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not when the game forces me to

dusty smelt
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i've seen worse qte

woeful nexus
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im not saying its the worst

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just from how im playing now

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pgr and wuwa

dusty smelt
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no i mean like prob why he doesnt mind it and likes it cuz is not encumbered

woeful nexus
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i like their qtes because its up to me

icy hull
dusty smelt
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and is suppose to be a swap in mechanic?

woeful nexus
west maple
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@strange helm 27

woeful nexus
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it literally freezes the game

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and forces you to swap

dusty smelt
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its very explosive the animation for the qte

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is a slow mo ye

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its very stylistic

woeful nexus
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i dont like that

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in terms of gamepaly

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i care too much on gameplay when it comes to gachas

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the most important aspect to me is player freedom

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ill see for myself how it feels

dusty smelt
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im just kinda surprised that gun char is a 4 star

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and that chick with the tits

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is also a 4 star

woeful nexus
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speaking of which

dusty smelt
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looking like a 5 star drip but is 4 star

woeful nexus
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another thing I dont like about zzz

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their char design

dusty smelt
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i kinda like that gun char i dont like the wep choice but the drip makes em look 5 star but its somehow 4 star, so Im just confused

mystic void
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don't know if it's a hot take or not, but imo zzz design is the most bland and uninspiring design I've ever seen

woeful nexus
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its prolly because of the setting

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but man

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even the limited char people are all over

dusty smelt
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i like it, very stylistic

woeful nexus
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Ellen?

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she looks bland to me

dusty smelt
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i had alotta friends reroll for ellen

mystic void
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mostly because I've read, watched, played, a ton of media with more and more design that it just doesn't make me feel "wow I want this"

dusty smelt
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i havent rly read or gotten into ZZZ i just didnt care about another hoyo game

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only reason i checked it out is cuz is thor streaming it

mystic void
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the style of zzz is really jet set radio-y and it's really cool

woeful nexus
dusty smelt
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and i gotta admit it does looking rly good and polished

woeful nexus
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im just not part of the target audience for it

dusty smelt
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thor said it gave him persona vibes and the music setting made it rly chill

woeful nexus
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im not even a fan of the art direction

dusty smelt
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he rly liked the music ost

woeful nexus
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but that might be because

mystic void
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ah hell nah it's not persona at all

woeful nexus
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im also not a huge fan of persona

dusty smelt
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i rly like how they did loading screen too

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with the tv?

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that was pretty neat

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where it shows u tv commercials of power rangers

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or something else

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while u loading

mystic void
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on the login?

dusty smelt
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very 90s theme

mystic void
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yea you can switch the commercials too

dusty smelt
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on an old crt tv

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ye thats pretty neat

mystic void
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the little detail here and there is pretty neat

dusty smelt
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the game is very stylistic

mystic void
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but imo it's all just to mask how simple and boring the actual depth of the game is

dusty smelt
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some ppl dont mind simple

woeful nexus
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thats their target audience

mystic void
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it's definitely catered to the most casual audience

woeful nexus
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think its fine considering how the arpg gachas are rn

dusty smelt
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if ZZZ had a greatsword char i woulda ironically actually tried it out

woeful nexus
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pgr was known to be somewhat hard back then

dusty smelt
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but becuz it didnt i immediately had zero interest

mystic void
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also another reminder if you do want to test it out use a controller

woeful nexus
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now its kinda calmed down with the difficulty

mystic void
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I paid for my sins

dusty smelt
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so i just didnt care to go deeper into zzz

woeful nexus
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nah i wont be able to run it on my laptop

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ill play it on phone

dusty smelt
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u can prob run it

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its hoyo

woeful nexus
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i can

mystic void
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when people said it's click spammy

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it really is

woeful nexus
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if i can run wuwa

mystic void
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and I fcked up my hand

woeful nexus
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can prolly run that

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i really dont see myself sticking with it tho

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cus the 2 things I look for in gachas in

dusty smelt
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o damn even quartz reinstalled zzz

woeful nexus
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char design and gameplay

dusty smelt
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just checked the zzz ch

woeful nexus
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char design looks eh

dusty smelt
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the furry is back Gladge

woeful nexus
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gameplay doesnt look that appealling

dusty smelt
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idk i thought the gameplay looked pretty appealing my only detraction is

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i dont like any of the chars but i do think their drip looks good

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suitcase gun girl nicole?

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and twin gunner billy?

woeful nexus
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its ust from how I see it

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since I play another arpg

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i still enjoy pgr gameplay

dusty smelt
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i think they just dont look samey and all have distinct styles

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so is pretty ez to differentiate

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idk anything about the game

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and i already know who ellen is

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cuz everyone goes crazy for it

woeful nexus
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theres also the issue of

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when you pull a character

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you barely see them

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that also irks some people

mystic void
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oh right

woeful nexus
mystic void
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as in hoyo fashion

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THE PULL ANIMATION SUCKS FUCKING ASS

dusty smelt
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wdym pull and dont see?

woeful nexus
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the combat gameplay is hidden beneath the tv shit

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and you dont see the chars you pull in the hub

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so you barely see them

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its not like genshin or hsr where you can run around as them

dusty smelt
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im confused

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wdym

woeful nexus
dusty smelt
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like u cant run around in the overworld as em?

woeful nexus
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its a complaint some people have

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yep

mystic void
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the only time you see the char you pull, is when fighting

dusty smelt
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ooooooh

woeful nexus
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yi

dusty smelt
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WUT

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REALLY?

mystic void
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the overworld hub, you only control your main char

dusty smelt
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oh thats not good then ye

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that is a big minus

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they should change that

woeful nexus
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oh yea

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if you want to have a good laugh

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listen to the gacha music when you get an S rank

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its hilariously bad

mystic void
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and the persona "friend" aspect? you gotta unlock that at acc lvl32/33

dusty smelt
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i hear it, its not bad

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i actually dont mind the zzz music

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it is like jet set radio type shit

woeful nexus
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its fine i guess

dusty smelt
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reminds me a bit of this one anime

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im trying to recall its name

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but it was the peakest anime ever

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it was a movie

woeful nexus
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the biggest issue with gacha music with lyrics is

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if you really read the lyrics

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its so bad

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i love ak music and it has that problem

dusty smelt
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like no one would ever say it was bad im trying remember what it was called cuz its an old anime movie but for its time it was giga advanced

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all hand drawn animations

woeful nexus
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and I think its the same for some music in zzz

dusty smelt
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was an anime about racing against aliens

woeful nexus
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thats why my favorite songs in ak are the songs I cant understand

dusty smelt
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and the mc has a pompadour

woeful nexus
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well then

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done with all my gachas

dusty smelt
#

REDLINE

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it was redline

woeful nexus
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time to install the god forsaken massive size

mystic void
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I miss redline

dusty smelt
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the music reminds me a bit of redline

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yes thats why i think the music is fine

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its fking redline

mystic void
#

the last hand drawn animation movie

dusty smelt
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ye

mystic void
dusty smelt
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that shit is PEAK ANIME

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ALL HAND DRAWN

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that movie has bomb ass animations and bomb ass music

mystic void
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I always do a yearly redline watch

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it's that good

dusty smelt
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is why i dont mind zzz music prob, it reminds me a bit of it

mystic void
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music is fine for in zzz

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got no complaints on that

woeful nexus
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my god

dusty smelt
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very top tier anime movie

woeful nexus
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17gb for this game

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why is it so bloated

dusty smelt
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yall should see redline if yall havent

mystic void
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it's 50gb on pc

dusty smelt
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i was surprised so many zoomers never heard of it before

woeful nexus
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yea i heard

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50gb for a fucking

mystic void
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gotta have 110gb free to install it

woeful nexus
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zone based game

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is criminal

mystic void
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since hoyo don't know how to do part by part install like steam

woeful nexus
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its actually insane

mystic void
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so they uses the winrar tech of unpacking

strange helm
woeful nexus
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how big this game is

woeful nexus
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does everyone have Jinhsi here now

strange helm
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ye

woeful nexus
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i love playing her

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most satisfying char to play so far

strange helm
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im fine with 24 tho DeadgeLaugh my Jinhsi not build yet

woeful nexus
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well look at the bright side

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when you have jinhsi built you dont really need to build her team

west maple
strange helm
woeful nexus
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i really hope the guy is free

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Kuro needs to just follow their pgr orifins

mystic void
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free ayaka at ar42 type shit kek

woeful nexus
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i cant believe people fell for that

mystic void
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honestly I also fell for it

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I was a young naive fool

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believing that hoyo would be good

woeful nexus
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i ust wish Kuro just follows their own business model that works

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instead of copying another that isnt gurranteed to work

dusty smelt
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its guarenteed to work if u hoyo

woeful nexus
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unfortunately

mystic void
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hoyo got them casuals by the balls

woeful nexus
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because their fanbase is loyal now

mystic void
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and brainwashed

woeful nexus
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even when their gacha system is just

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so fucking bad

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.6%, 50/50 and gurrantee is at 90 rolls

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jesus christ

dusty smelt
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to their credit, their games are rly well made and polished ye

mystic void
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combined with the abysmal pull economy

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like holy shit

dusty smelt
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to the casual audience thats all they need

woeful nexus
mystic void
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45-60 per patch

dusty smelt
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seeing 2 "honest" ppl praise hoyo one of em still refuse to play gacha but did acknowledge hoyo's games as good "cohcarnage" ye

mystic void
#

people calculated

dusty smelt
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they def got the formula down right

woeful nexus
#

that is so atrocious

dusty smelt
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damnnn is worse than in genshin?

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is the pity still the same?

mystic void
#

YEP

woeful nexus
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its the exact same

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the only difference is weapon banner