Drivers and BSOD

[rose dawn]

I think I have three but that’s not enough

[wet beacon]

I just restore them...

[rose dawn]

Yeah

[wet beacon]

There are cheap usb drives..i think

[rose dawn]

How often do you need to restore

[wet beacon]

Usually I dont get errors..
But when boot problems occur...i only restore boot partition and thats it..
Fixed boot problem within seconds...

[rose dawn]

Ah

So now what

[wet beacon]

Into windows?

[rose dawn]

Yep

[wet beacon]

No roblox right?..

[rose dawn]

Yes

There is definitely a pattern in the games that crash with Anticheat

[wet beacon]

Do this...
Test/use your pc...normally..for sometime like discord or youtube..browsing and such..

Dont use any games that uses anti-cheat..
Play some other games and test it for a day and check if it crashes..

[rose dawn]

K

[wet beacon]

Best of luck!..

[rose dawn]

Well

Cya

Thanks for all the help!

[wet beacon]

I will be leaving for now!...dont mention it..^^

[rose dawn]

❤️

[wet beacon]

Dont use msi afterburner...for now..

[rose dawn]

I won’t

[wet beacon]

Whats the update till now?..

[rose dawn]

So I’ve had no issue with it

[rose dawn]

Also can you please ping me

I’ll respond quicker that’s all

[signal osprey]

Yo, your issue fixed or not?

[rose dawn]

No

[signal osprey]

what?

[molten lake]

jesus this forum have 1k messages no one has yet to fix his issue ? guess i'll try @rose dawn tell us ur current issue, any bsods?

[signal osprey]

Lol, If it's 1K that means you likely can't fix it, it's the same problem other guy had with ROBLOX, anti-cheat causing BSOD cause it is kernel-level stuff.

[molten lake]

there's no mention of anti cheat in here causing it in the stack trace of every single dump file

1 dump file is just an AV = access violation.
the other is hypervisor which is a virtualization thingy

and some of the bugcheck param of this dump files are c0000005 which is AV = access violation

and yep even the func that has been called has AV prefix on it, meaning access violation

[signal osprey]

access violation should refer to kernel access violation

It's given

[molten lake]

ye, nt

[signal osprey]

Then there is no way to fix that shit tbh

[molten lake]

which usually caused by poor memory management of the ram

[signal osprey]

no RAM bro, the game

[molten lake]

this isn't the game issue

this is ram issue

[signal osprey]

He already tested the PC, his PC works fine when he does everything but playing EAC games like valorant and roblox, he literally said that.

[molten lake]

hm kek

wait ye it's that roblox beta one

don't see vgk.sys causing it here tho

[signal osprey]

Here is for example.

[molten lake]

so it isn't the vanguard anti cheat, also not easyanticheat

[signal osprey]

You get what I mean.

She already told him that, it is game issue. RAM issue will occur at random, not during games with anti-cheat.

[molten lake]

lol very sad

[rose dawn]

My ram is fine

[rose dawn]

My other hard drive works

And doesn’t blue screen

[wet beacon]

Are you using roblox beta version?..

One of the the four dump files.. contain info on hypervisor error.. which points to buggy realtek wifi drivers!...

[molten lake]

that isn't the issue

[rose dawn]

Yes I am

[molten lake]

it's just the game

[rose dawn]

It’s not

[molten lake]

clearly it keeps showing up in the dump file have AV = access violation

u have another issues?

[rose dawn]

Then explain to me why all my games blue screen and crash

All of them

[molten lake]

oh then that wud probly cus of what i said is ram now, or some hardware fault

[rose dawn]

My old hard drive works fine tho

[wet beacon]

and the other one is obvious ..the robloxbeta process causing.. access violation... to kernel.. ntsokernel.exe

[molten lake]

yye hardware fault

[rose dawn]

It’s not

[molten lake]

ye it is happening in kernel the access violation

[molten lake]

clearly it is if old hdd works fine..

[wet beacon]

Anyways... I am not sure why the wifi driver causing BSOD... it must be buggy!.. so typical of HP..haha!

[molten lake]

nah the wifi is not causing it

wait lemme actually recheck it

[wet beacon]

It causes it ..being a part of it..if I better put it

No need to check...its already showing..

@rose dawn test minecraft or whatever you like to test!.. if it checks out...then it becomes a specific issue..

[rose dawn]

Okay

I will in a bit

[molten lake]

look at the stack trace

it's an interrupt func, meaning it's probly just some weird possibility, the func leads to hardware error tho

nmi interrupt

this however is related to hyperv

and it's before the bugcheck ex func has been executed

how are u reading the stack trace? becus if u reading it from top to bottom that's not how u do that

ye this is not a software issue, cus this dump files are all randoms

[rose dawn]

Well it’s not a hardware issue

[molten lake]

how are u sure ?

[rose dawn]

I’ve ran very many tests on my hard drive and it’s not that

[molten lake]

u just said every game causes a crash and changing ur hdd make it work, what is it?

[rose dawn]

?

[molten lake]

stop confusing

[rose dawn]

I mean my old hard drive works fine that’s why I think it’s a software issue

[molten lake]

if ur old hdd works fine then no it's not a software issue it's within ur other hdd issue

[rose dawn]

Or a driver issue

[molten lake]

so hardware

[rose dawn]

But it’s not my ssd

[wet beacon]

NMI interrupts includes hardware error... but not always indicates it!...

[molten lake]

breh, now i am more confuse which one was it

[rose dawn]

?

I’m confused

[molten lake]

ye it checks for hardware error or something, kinda like a monitor

[wet beacon]

They said only games with anti-cheat ..probably i think..

[molten lake]

on an old hdd it works he said but not the ssd?

[rose dawn]

They are Both ssds

[molten lake]

[rose dawn]

M.2s

[molten lake]

cool so old ssd works fine, but the other doesn't

[rose dawn]

Yes

[molten lake]

and ur os is booted on the other ssd not the old one?

[wet beacon]

Initially I thought old storage had proper drivers... so installing official ones can help...but I dont know the case with old ones..but using the official drivers didnt work ..and he already modified/wiped the old storage..

[molten lake]

this is confusing lol dood might have controller issue if so

[rose dawn]

How are you confused

[molten lake]

firmware issue

[rose dawn]

Possibly

[wet beacon]

They probably had the latest firmware version..but you can recheck again!..

[rose dawn]

Yeah I will

[wet beacon]

Thats why I always stay away from HP...they gave me nightmare!...

[rose dawn]

I wish I did

[molten lake]

that other ssd might be a lost cause if u can't play a game on it that has anti cheat. Have u check crystaldiskinfo?

[rose dawn]

Yes

[molten lake]

the readings?

[rose dawn]

?

[signal osprey]

Bro, It's 1k comments, you really expect they didn't check stuff like checking disks?💀

[molten lake]

they check it, but not someone else. Who probly can read it

[signal osprey]

If it shows 100%, there is nothing else to check.

[rose dawn]

Exactly

[molten lake]

there is

[rose dawn]

Also bro I’m not stupid

[molten lake]

100% is a scam and u shudnt believe it, always check the values

[signal osprey]

💀

[rose dawn]

I have some knowledge about computers

Probably more than you actually

[molten lake]

literally 1 reallocated sector count that 100% will go down to 1% and become Bad

[molten lake]

ok and? how have u not fix this ?

[signal osprey]

Yea, no, drive healths don't go from 100% to 1% quickly.

[molten lake]

it can

depends on the drive

[signal osprey]

It can't

[molten lake]

it can

[signal osprey]

not from 100%, don't make stuff up.

[molten lake]

i do not make stuff up

[rose dawn]

I’m just saying because I’ve done everything that I myself can do which is more than you are having me do

[molten lake]

i just explained to u how it can

[signal osprey]

Clearly you are.

[molten lake]

how so if i explained how it works?

[signal osprey]

Don't need it. No drives fail right from start and goes 100 to 1 so quickly, and he is using that drive for sometime.

[molten lake]

"sometime"

[rose dawn]

Shut up

Just leave

[signal osprey]

@rose dawn get this guy the screenshot of crystaldiskinfo, only then he will calm down.

[rose dawn]

Stop following his

[rose dawn]

I can’t cause I don’t have it downloaded

And I’m not at my computer rn

[molten lake]

tbh it depends on the manufacturer of the drive, they have some weird specific raw value, even tho the current is literally still 100 and above the threshold

it wud consider it as bad or caution

[rose dawn]

Western digital?

[molten lake]

any manufacturer

[signal osprey]

Storage errors will hammer his PC left and right, not only when you game, it's common sense.

[molten lake]

i haven't seen seagate one fails

and ye WD i had one and it failed in just becoming a storage drive

[signal osprey]

.

[molten lake]

then explain his game working properly on his old ssd lol

[signal osprey]

Actually it doesn't cause we don't have the same state of that old ssd.

[molten lake]

well he said it did, so imma believe him

🫠

[signal osprey]

and we don't know how it was setup, he could be not telling us the full things

[molten lake]

that's why im confuse

[signal osprey]

Def not storage issue, rest assured

The symptoms are not matching.

[molten lake]

very confusing issue

[signal osprey]

Now you realize why it was 1k?💀

Don't judge a book by it's cover

[molten lake]

i thought i can figure out but failed miserably 💀

[signal osprey]

Hey, it's okay, at least you tried to help.

[rose dawn]

Fr thank you for trying cold harbor

[molten lake]

any updates still betting it's a hardware issue due to the fact of AV in dump files

[rose dawn]

@wet beacon I think its only with anticheats

[rose dawn]

it could be solved I might have fixed it

I played fortnite last night and didnt have issues

[wet beacon]

Hopefully it stays that way!...

However keep that macrium system image backup...somewhere else and safe!..using external HDD or USB stick..whatever you wish...

[rose dawn]

yup

yeah I wonder if it blue screened because we forgot to enable windows update last time

[wet beacon]

Is windows update still disabled?..

also I dont think so..because windows update were always enabled when you had BSOD.. its only at that time ..I told you to disable windows update for the time being..

[molten lake]

update shud not cus bsod

unless it some microsoft sht

[rose dawn]

Nope it’s blue screening again

[molten lake]

send dem dumps

[rose dawn]

K

It’s blue screened once and completely froze once

Blue screened again

are there deff signs of bad ram?

Do you want to vc?

Blue screened again

I’m going to put my old ram back in it

[molten lake]

this is still access violation

in this case it doesn't happen becus of a process, this is kernel side

tho, idk why people here thinks PROCESS_NAME is the cause, no it isn't the cause it never is, it's just the process that is running when the crash happens, that is probly right if the stack trace says so

in this case some audiodg.exe which is a audio handler which is built in windows, so this is unrelated to the other processes above

[molten lake]

have u done memtest86?

u also have xmp on when this crash happened, set to 3200MHz, which can be unstable

[signal osprey]

Noone here thinks that tho.

[molten lake]

ah yes u guys do, like bro why u think it's roblox jst cause proces name said so

[signal osprey]

He ran the pc the whole day without any issue, BSOD occured after using roblox and its launcher. This time, process is the main cultprit doing the AV.

[molten lake]

ye but that does not make the process name the culprit, it never is

look at the stack trace and the params.

look at each func before the exception has been dispatch

[signal osprey]

It can and in this case it clearly is.

[molten lake]

no it does not

[signal osprey]

IT does

It's already proven

[molten lake]

how so? explain, where does it say it in the stack trace?

[molten lake]

no it isn't has he still have crashes, bsod

[signal osprey]

Then explain why he didn't have any crash prior to installing roblox

[signal osprey]

because he is playing the game or background process.

[molten lake]

don't need as he still have crashes rn, and he didn't do roblox

[molten lake]

there's nothing that indicates it is running in the background in this dump file

[signal osprey]

He didn't say that.

[molten lake]

u can look at the background processes from a dump file bud

[signal osprey]

You can't find all background processes.

[molten lake]

u can

[signal osprey]

no and audiog is always running in the background, explain why this time is in the "process" name all of a sudden?

[molten lake]

already did

access violation

it can happen on any process randomly

can also happen on system

[signal osprey]

Why would audioG be causing AV all of a sudden, it is in the background.

[molten lake]

cus it's access violation i dont understand how u don't understand AV

and it's a audio handler of windows, it isn't in the background u are using it everytime u use audio

[signal osprey]

and you don't understand that an audio process which is always in the background can't come in the front of the "PROCESS name" tag all of a sudden. and this is first time happening means audioG can be a part of it failed during playing roblox.

[molten lake]

no

[signal osprey]

yes

[molten lake]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[signal osprey]

You can't declare process name is "just there", it depends

[molten lake]

where did i say that, i said it does not related? depends on the stack

[signal osprey]

THIS

[molten lake]

now i wonder why th this is in 1k

[signal osprey]

THIS

[signal osprey]

THIS

[molten lake]

"that is probly "right" if the stack trace says so"

[signal osprey]

and many more

[molten lake]

does the stack trace says so?

[signal osprey]

what does the stack trace say to you?

[molten lake]

already said

[signal osprey]

what?

[molten lake]

dood haven't been paying attention

[signal osprey]

what it says?

[signal osprey]

You are gonna get proven wrong again like last time.

[molten lake]

how so? i haven't been proven wrong as he still have bsods

[signal osprey]

Other cases.

Anyways, tell me what it says.

[molten lake]

does not matter, he still have bsods

[signal osprey]

Because he has the game installed.

[rose dawn]

No one said that

[molten lake]

so wat if he has the game fkin installed

[rose dawn]

Also man I can answer my OWN questions

[signal osprey]

You know, background processes exist.

[rose dawn]

Also I think it might be fixed

[molten lake]

what are u running when the crash happed

[rose dawn]

Fortnite and YouTube

[molten lake]

roblox won't run if u don't run it

[signal osprey]

I know, but you were offline.💀

[rose dawn]

At the same time

[signal osprey]

@molten lake SEE?

[rose dawn]

Ping me and I’m back on

[molten lake]

ok?

[signal osprey]

Fortnite also cause BSOD like roblox

[molten lake]

some random sht, possibly overwhelmed ram

[signal osprey]

lol no

[rose dawn]

I havnt had a bsod since I put my old ram in so I wouldn’t say much rn

[molten lake]

lol yes, av is caused by overwhelmed ram as weel

[signal osprey]

What's with the ram? I thought it was always OLD storage

[molten lake]

never is now that i realized it

that's where i was confuse but, realized it never relates

[signal osprey]

No, that doesn't explain his non-crash period before installing.

[molten lake]

it does

[rose dawn]

My old storage blue screened but I thought it was because I installed windows 10 drivers on windows 11

[signal osprey]

Are you that dumb?

[molten lake]

are u

this has 1k messages, i cud fix this in a second

[signal osprey]

I asked you about old RAM not old STORAGE

[signal osprey]

LOL, you will extend it to 2k msgs

[molten lake]

nope, that's all ur doing arguing

[rose dawn]

You guys have already done that

[signal osprey]

You are the one with false arguing stuff.

You always try to act nerd but failed, don't repeat that again.

Like in that case

[molten lake]

it isn't even unsigned drivers, or any drivers as driver verifier didn't bsod, reinstall doesn't work. Cmos reset probly haven't done yet as this is a laptop, bios is up to date so eh... Dood haven't done a memtest86, like come on

[signal osprey]

HE DID MEMTEST 86

NO ERROR

[molten lake]

where

[signal osprey]

ask him

[signal osprey]

REINSTALL WINDOWS WORKED UNTIL HE INSTALLED THOSE FKING GAMES LIKE FORTNITE AND ROBLOX.

[molten lake]

so it never works

becus those game runs fine on mine, and other people have no issues with it

[signal osprey]

It works means it is a game issue, not hardware issue.

[signal osprey]

and other people had issues with roblox and fortnite causing BSOD

[molten lake]

if it works in 1 system but not other, the hardware is at fault here, or incompatibility

[signal osprey]

you didn't face any issue doesn't mean other won't, it's a weak defence tbh

[molten lake]

where

[signal osprey]

LOL, you act like a nerd, surely you can search that up for yourself.

[molten lake]

no i am asking u to prove it, cus i never heard of that sht having issues

[rose dawn]

It’s not a game issue

[signal osprey]

why?

[signal osprey]

Hold

[molten lake]

only vgk back in 2020 is the popular anti cheat that causes it

[rose dawn]

Yes

That’s what I think

[molten lake]

easyanticheat ant battleye never heard of those sht have issues

causing bsod on multiple system, only vgk did

[signal osprey]

That doesn't explain how your pc ran well without issue before installing those games, you yourself saying pc only crashed when you have those games open, like just right now.

[molten lake]

if it's a game issue 100000000000 people wud have it

[molten lake]

and i wud've heard of it as i am in TS servers all the time

[molten lake]

does not prove anything

[tiny basalt]

why is this thread so insanely long

[molten lake]

no idea

[rose dawn]

Because my issue isn’t resolved

[tiny basalt]

please work together instead of arguing

[signal osprey]

Cause this nerd wants to argue on everything.

[molten lake]

this isn't even a game issue, cus as I said real people wud have it in tech supports i been in

[rose dawn]

Nice username

[molten lake]

vgk does that back in 2020

[signal osprey]

It literally proves it, and already shown image that problem persists in 2023.

[tiny basalt]

if you're just going to argue and not actually solve the problem please stop

[signal osprey]

also why are you not replying to the OLD ram topic?

Don't be shady bro.

[rose dawn]

I don’t understand it

[signal osprey]

You said you replaced RAM, you never mentioned about old ram.

[molten lake]

this is for roblox now explain fortnite. Still thinks this is a ram issue or anticheat

[rose dawn]

I replaced the ram the same time when I replaced my hd

[signal osprey]

Then MR nerd guy, solve his issue, tell him what to do.

[molten lake]

only way to find out is to play every single game with anti cheat

[signal osprey]

lol, that was already advised. to test both non-ac and ac games.

any new advice?

[molten lake]

ye which ac does not work well

[signal osprey]

So?

[molten lake]

battleye, or easyanticheat

[signal osprey]

Yea, but you did run memtest on new ram, didn't you?

[molten lake]

does dood even do valorant to use vgk

[rose dawn]

Can’t remember

[signal osprey]

valorant also crashes.

i think

[molten lake]

cool and u said it's a game issue kek

[signal osprey]

really?

[molten lake]

it's ac issue as usual

[rose dawn]

Nah I’ve done so much that I can’t remember

[signal osprey]

ofc it's a game issue with AC, lol, AC belongs in a GAME, nerd

[molten lake]

ac can also be run independently but ok

[signal osprey]

lol

[tiny basalt]

if you continue to argue you'll both be warned

[signal osprey]

I am done arguing with you after this sentence, this proves you will do everything to counter , even if it is invalid, let me say this. AC comes with a GAME, you don't install it individually.

[tiny basalt]

@rose dawn have you tried reinstalling windows

[molten lake]

he did multiple times

[molten lake]

have u tried apex

[tiny basalt]

right

[molten lake]

oh nvm that's the same anticheat

[signal osprey]

Problem is simple and easy to understand, anti--cheat causing kernel BSOD, proven. The only fix is now is probably firmware update.

and all of this were already suggested before i came to see the thread.

[molten lake]

yes so it's already been proven it's anticheats

[signal osprey]

Hardware issue like ram will happen randomly like during windows install or doing anything incluing games, he didn't have any issue prior to that.

[molten lake]

and firmware update won't do it, as he already is in up to date bios

[signal osprey]

He is?

[molten lake]

yes look at the dump

[signal osprey]

Then nothing anyone can do here tbh

[molten lake]

it's a laptop so if it's dated to 2022 doesn't even matter

[signal osprey]

Then explain all the time you said it was not game issue but hardware issue. 💀

[molten lake]

as long as it's close to up to date version it's fine, but mostly laptop stops at a specific version unlike desktop

[signal osprey]

forget that , it's HP, they are craps

[molten lake]

it isn't tho, cus u can stop anticheat on some games to run lmfao, like unturned for example

[tiny basalt]

that's not a useful comment

[molten lake]

dk bout apex

[tiny basalt]

but how do yall know that it is in fact anti cheat

[molten lake]

actually might just be for battleye u can do that

[molten lake]

cus only games with ac crashes not games without iirc

[signal osprey]

it's proven given their statement and testing and dump files.

[tiny basalt]

wonder if that's just a coincidence

[signal osprey]

nah

too big coincidence.

If it crashes during gameplay only, then can't be a coincidence.

[molten lake]

can't think of any ac other than battleye, and easyanticheat and vgk

[signal osprey]

@rose dawn bro you did memtest on new RAM, right?

[signal osprey]

what?

[tiny basalt]

it doesn't contribute to solving the problem

but anyways

[signal osprey]

It's just one comment on hating, that's overstatement.

You will find some unnecessary comments, and there always will be

[rose dawn]

Yes

[rose dawn]

It can’t run apex

[signal osprey]

@rose dawn ?

[rose dawn]

I don’t know

[signal osprey]

Do it?

[rose dawn]

Just stop about memtest

[signal osprey]

why?

[rose dawn]

And stop pinging me over and over

[signal osprey]

you literally said to ping everytime

lol

[tiny basalt]

i'll be honest i feel like this is going nowhere 😅

maybe we should accept that we cannot solve it

[signal osprey]

I feel like OP not contributing enough.

[tiny basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[signal osprey]

For example, He never mentioned he replaced RAM, always talked about old storage

Why cry emoji? I thought you could fix this in a second, you said @molten lake

[rose dawn]

😭

[rose dawn]

Not to you

[signal osprey]

Bro, just tell me one thing, Did your PC ever crashed when you not game? after reinstall

[rose dawn]

No

[signal osprey]

confirmed?

no?

[rose dawn]

No

But I don’t think it’s the games

I think it’s my ram

My old ram is back in it

[molten lake]

no it's anticheats, but oh well

[rose dawn]

My old ram hasn’t blue screened once tho

[molten lake]

even on games that has anticheats?

[signal osprey]

During gaming?

[rose dawn]

It’s in it right now

[rose dawn]

So far no

[signal osprey]

Test with old ram

[molten lake]

ok keep playing

[rose dawn]

Yes

[rose dawn]

Tf do you think I’m doing

[molten lake]

test with each ram and play for 1 hour

[rose dawn]

Yeah I know

[signal osprey]

crashing your pc?💀

[rose dawn]

Bro

[signal osprey]

Okay, if it never crashes then ram issue, if it crashes then throw the laptop and pledge to never buy HP again.

[rose dawn]

Yeah

I’m thinking about selling it after this…

[signal osprey]

Still I don't get why the new ram doesn't crash while not doing any games. It makes no sense.

memory error doesn't depend on specific apps.

[rose dawn]

It does on the power of the game

[signal osprey]

any idea? @molten lake

[rose dawn]

Minecraft has had issues before

Not since I reinstalled windows

[signal osprey]

On new ram?

[rose dawn]

Wdym new ram

Like the stuff that In it rn?

Or like my new ram

[signal osprey]

there is old ram and new ram now, so I asked new ram or not

[rose dawn]

On the new ram

[signal osprey]

So, this doesn't add up how it can be memory issue

[molten lake]

access violation is when something accessed a memory address that it's not suppose to, a game cud possibly do that, or a driver. Driver isn't the issue in this case

so ye doesn't depend on it

cud literally happened on a chrome

[signal osprey]

But that doesn't mean hardware fault. Hardware fault occurs any time.

for any apps

[molten lake]

ye sometimes it's just a 1 time thing

kinda like a dpc timeout. but no that relates to hardware fault, hardware fault won't sometimes occurs sometimes it will, rly depends on what happens in the kernel like what function is called.
Rem, there's a scheduler in kernel which executes a certain func which might cause hardware fault for no reason while u are just idle

[rose dawn]

Fuck hp

[signal osprey]

THIS

[molten lake]

hewlett packard

[wet beacon]

Whats the update?...

[rose dawn]

I can see why hps are affordable

[rose dawn]

Put my old ram in and hasn’t blue screened YET

[molten lake]

me and yu went on a argument then agree with each other afterwards, i think lol. Still no idea wth is happening

[wet beacon]

Status on your replaced memory?..did it crash without gaming?.. and what about during gaming?..

[rose dawn]

Wdym

[wet beacon]

lol..no need to argue!.. cooperation is what needed on any threads!..

[signal osprey]

Yea, but he just overdid it sometime. 💀

[rose dawn]

Don’t blame it all on him

You both were the cause of the arguments

[tiny basalt]

hopefully we're past that now

(yall better be past that now)

[rose dawn]

Yep all good!

[wet beacon]

Anyways!.. so it didnt crash when you didnt play any games...and crashed again only when playing fortnite and roblox..correct?.

[rose dawn]

Yes

I mean games are hard to run

I’m thinking it’s a ram issue

Not 100% sure but

If it works for like a week than I’m going after the company

[signal osprey]

memory issue will cause BSOD when you won't game.

[rose dawn]

Idk tho

[signal osprey]

confused

[wet beacon]

Test with the old memory... then you will figure out the root cause!..

[rose dawn]

And btw @wet beacon when i reinstall our backup it doesn’t blue screen for like a hour even if I’m playing games than it will start

Like I can play Roblox for about a hour than it starts to blue screen every 5 minutes or less

[wet beacon]

is this like a specific time you are referring to?.. like always one hour? .

Kernal access violation can happen anytime!.. but then again... it could mostly lead to firmware issue!..

Something you cant fix it unless the vendor releases a patch..

[signal osprey]

@wet beacon Any opinion on this?

[wet beacon]

He is yet to provide the test results ..with the old memory... you will get the answer..once you know whether the old one behaves like that or not!...

[signal osprey]

Ah, that's correct.

[signal osprey]

@rose dawn bro what's the update no old ram?

[rose dawn]

Hasn’t blue screened yet

[signal osprey]

All anti-cheat based game works properly without crash?

On old ram?

[rose dawn]

Well the ones I’ve tested

[signal osprey]

Okay and now?

please close this thread, you lied most of the part and gave little info about your problems. you always told you replace storage but forgot to say you also replaced the ram as well?

You are the sole reason why the thread is this long

[molten lake]

just close this forum as a ram issue it will always be. Explains why th my hardware runs roblox or fortnite fine or any anticheats and i have OC my ram at 3600MHz

not anticheat fault if ur ram dont like sht. Already solved this literally just by coming here a day ago

[signal osprey]

You absolutely know nothing and claim you fix the issue within a day? explain why it didn't crash when he is using other apps, why games only?

You solved nothing and you know nothing how AV works.

It was always the anti-cheat because that dood is a minsinformer too.

Don't try to get false credit lol

@molten lake ALso just because your hardware runs it doesn't mean it will run fine on every other hardware out there, that's a kids logic and basics

[molten lake]

exactly u proved my point, once again . Dood keeps on proving my point

[signal osprey]

LOL, no I didn't bro, by hardware I didn't mean hardware fault, I meant device. 💀

[molten lake]

that doesn't make sense kek

[signal osprey]

It abs does

[molten lake]

no

[signal osprey]

You just can't see things right

[molten lake]

i already solved this just stop. Dood still can't explain why multiple people with OC runs fortnite fine, like seriously watch ninja, and other youtubers...

[signal osprey]

Lol, you solved nothing, start with explaining that about non-crash period

[rose dawn]

I did earlier

[signal osprey]

LIKE seriously dude, you are 21? you act like a stubborn kid, all devices won't have the same state, there are different firmwares

[molten lake]

if uk how ram works that shud be self explanatory, and i already explained it. ram do not like anti cheat cus anti cheat does something different than any app, on some hardware anticheat works fine cus their ram is compatibile with it and dc bout it

[signal osprey]

You never said that, stop lying

[molten lake]

stop

[rose dawn]

I did ask @wet beacon

[molten lake]

he did u just not reading

[signal osprey]

Where?

You never did bro

[rose dawn]

Like 500 messages up

[signal osprey]

Or maybe you didn't

[molten lake]

this is solved, get a different ram or a different board and see if anticheat works well with it

[signal osprey]

Can't show it now, can you?

[molten lake]

dood keep on calling dood a liar, he never lied on anything.

[signal osprey]

Different board, dude it's a laptop

buy him one then

[molten lake]

laptop has a board, th u on

[signal osprey]

Buy him the whole laptop then

[molten lake]

u can change it with the same model

[signal osprey]

lol bro, you are nerd? the board is like 95% of the laptop

[molten lake]

is this dood high

[signal osprey]

It is same as buying new

[molten lake]

i can literally show u a pic of a laptop board

no buying just the board is more cheaper than the laptop itself

[signal osprey]

I know what a board looks like, I don't need to see it from you

[molten lake]

cus of corp marketting

u can get a replacement part form ebay or anywhere. As cheap as a soda

[signal osprey]

YES, get him one then for cheap and easily.

@rose dawn Look, if the old ram solves your problem then please say it's solved and close it, I don't want a single more word from a misinformer who confused people and made this thread too long.

[molten lake]

didn't misinform sht, that's just u. Ik how av works u don't

[signal osprey]

Find me where you said old ram replaced before you came.

You know crap about AV

[molten lake]

i said replace a ram, not any old ram or sht. Yes i do and u don't

[signal osprey]

also you can't explain non-crash period, when not gaming, tells a lot of about your knowledge on AV

[rose dawn]

You aren’t wrong

[molten lake]

wdym can't explain, i explained it couple times, are u high

[signal osprey]

But that delusional won't understand.

[rose dawn]

I don’t know if it is solved

[signal osprey]

LOL, you always ignored this question, what a second LIAR

[signal osprey]

why?

[molten lake]

pls tell me wth u on? i want to try it

[rose dawn]

Because I havnt tested enough

I have had it go this long without blue screening before

[signal osprey]

tf? you had plenty of time on yur hand.

[molten lake]

u already tested enuf

[signal osprey]

That's not for you to decide

[molten lake]

with and without the anticheat

[rose dawn]

I tested like 3 hours so far

[signal osprey]

which games?

[rose dawn]

Fortnite

That’s literally it

[molten lake]

anticheat is literally not working together with ur fkin ram, this is the issue

[rose dawn]

And uhhh… cookie clicker

[signal osprey]

AC don't care about ram, you fking know nothing

[rose dawn]

Dont fking ask

[molten lake]

ac cares bout ram as any fkin other apps

[signal osprey]

wrong reply, not meant for you

[molten lake]

ac goes on kernel level to see any tampering or sht, it's like an av = antivirus

[rose dawn]

What?

[signal osprey]

lol, your knowledge surprises me

[rose dawn]

I wasn’t talking about what you said

[molten lake]

ur knowledge surprises me of how illiterate u are

[rose dawn]

I meant about this message

Guys can you stop?

[signal osprey]

like an AV, bro pls, learn something before you talk

[molten lake]

i already stopped, dood keep on being fkin stoopid

[molten lake]

and again this is already solved as a ram issue.. Just close it gah dam

[signal osprey]

test valorant and apex and fortnite, and don't listen to that dude, he only trying to claim false credit here with no clue whatsoever, he was just lucky to hear about your old ram and that's it, you hadn't said this earlier.

[molten lake]

he already did tested those

yup not listening

[signal osprey]

bunch of delusional, he only tested fortnite

[molten lake]

and idc bout his old ram, cause i already said it's ram issue before that

[molten lake]

yup u can't even read

he said that 1000 messages above

[signal osprey]

DELUSIONAL, he tested memtest on new RAM, no issue, don't talk ahead of time before knowing anything

[molten lake]

if u believe memtest can detect sht on ur ram, then u are more delusional

[signal osprey]

LOL, says the one who advises others to do memtest.

[molten lake]

memtest doesn't test all memory addresses bud

[rose dawn]

Bro I never said I tested those what?

[molten lake]

u did

[signal osprey]

You did, what a LIAR

[rose dawn]

What when?

[signal osprey]

this channel is full of LIARs.

[molten lake]

that's when i asked u about if u testing apex or valorant and u said u did

[rose dawn]

Reply to it

[signal osprey]

SEE? that's why that OP is a misinformer and a liar, and you mr.cold guy, is another delusional no skill lucky liar

trying to claim false credit

[rose dawn]

I didn’t say I tested that

[molten lake]

that's before when i asked it

u said it do blue screen wdym

🫠

[rose dawn]

I’m the past it blue screened?

[molten lake]

wot

[signal osprey]

Look pls, close this thread, noone solved this problem , it's all lies, mark it as unsolved.

[rose dawn]

Are you smoking crack?

[molten lake]

i am

[worn tapir]

@molten lake was warned: rule 4/10

@signal osprey was warned: rule 4/10

[rose dawn]

Well

[wet beacon]

What happened here?..

[rose dawn]

We muted

[wet beacon]

huh?..

[rose dawn]

You don’t even want to know

[wet beacon]

hm.. anyways..whats the update?

[molten lake]

nothin, no update it's still gets confusing over and over

[rose dawn]

I think it’s fixed but I still want to test for a bit until I say it’s official

[rose dawn]

Nah Saiyan understands my issue unlike you

[wet beacon]

The old one is working well for you?... thats good!.. did you test all the aforementioned games?..

[rose dawn]

Not all of them but a few of them

[molten lake]

which?

[rose dawn]

I put my old ram back in

[wet beacon]

Keep testing...of course you dont want to keep using your old one!.. where did you get/buy that new memory from?

[rose dawn]

Amazon

[wet beacon]

link?

[rose dawn]

Western digital

[wet beacon]

Send the amazon link...

[rose dawn]

Yeah one sec

Can’t find it

[rose dawn]

Frick that’s my hd not my ram lol

[wet beacon]

hm?..

[rose dawn]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT16G4SFRA32A/dp/B08C511GQH/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_mod_primary_new?crid=3FK242IUX4QIT&keywords=3200+speed+laptop+ram+16+gb+silicon+power&qid=1683746679&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=3200+speed+laptop+ram+16+gb+silicon+power%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-3

There I believe that’s the ram

[wet beacon]

Can you upload the image of the new ram?..here?

[wet beacon]

Thats crucial memory?..

The sticker doesnt match at all!..

[rose dawn]

What

Oh to the link?

[wet beacon]

yep?

[rose dawn]

Oh well I can’t find it then

I can look a bit later but rn I’m busy

[wet beacon]

Its okay!.. as I mentioned way back...it was either driver/firmware issue.. or hardware fault..looks like the latter one checks out..

keep testing it..to make sure you can safely conclude... it was indeed the ram ..

[molten lake]

driver/app causing access violation or address violation wud always be ram, as that won't happen if ur ram is compatible with it. Especially on a well known app or driver that has been signed by microsoft. Tho ik anticheat is not that compatible with most ram

unsigned drivers possibly

and if it's a driver issue then it possibly shud just be 1 time especially when u reinstalled windows

he reinstalled windows ryt? i forgor lol

[wet beacon]

You can kinda exclude the unsigned ones haha!... I always test old devices with SDIO (all-in-one driver installer)... I rarely got BSOD..

[molten lake]

ye i tested with him it too using driver verifier

and using the option for unsigned driver option

didn't bsod

idk if it's the specific die on the ram that is not compatible with anticheats, suchas a-die, b-die

[wet beacon]

I dont think it is the compatibility issue!...more like failing to read from a specific memory address ..is the case most of the time...but hardware faults are hard to pinpoint sometimes...thats why I always make sure software/firmware isnt the root cause at first..

[molten lake]

ye most of the time

[rose dawn]

My friend made a good point. He said that when it goes above 8 gb of ram it blue screens which makes sense

[molten lake]

access violation is when something reads a memory address it's not supposed to usually

[molten lake]

so it's being overwhelmed?

[wet beacon]

whats your full pc specs again?..

[rose dawn]

Uhm

Wdym

Do you want the link?

[molten lake]

ur pc specifications like what ram, cpu, drive and gpu u have and board

tho u can see it in his dump above lol

still the hp laptop ryt?

[rose dawn]

Yes

[molten lake]

just newly added ram?

[rose dawn]

Yes

[molten lake]

what's the update on anticheat games and normal games?

[rose dawn]

I havnt been playing

I played Fortnite last night for like 3 hours

[molten lake]

on new ram?

[rose dawn]

Old

[molten lake]

ok

[rose dawn]

My new ram is the messed up ram

[molten lake]

oh, i thought it's the other way around

[rose dawn]

No

The old ram works fine

I don’t have much knowledge about computers

I’m 13 🤣

[molten lake]

ok, i started when i was 12 so that's fine age

[rose dawn]

Yeah

[molten lake]

well programming

[rose dawn]

I’ll be 14 in 9 days

[rose dawn]

I am on a robotics team

And I’m a good programer in that way

[molten lake]

dam, i never got in to those in my school

[rose dawn]

I don’t go to school 🤣

Home is my school

Which sucks cause I have 1 friend

[molten lake]

they using python and im good at it but i never got in, sht needs science 20-1 and sht, now i graduated even then

wudve have fun in school if i got in to it,

[rose dawn]

Yeah we use scratch because it’s mostly younger kids

[molten lake]

but i got in to mechanics for no reason and autobody, like bro i dont like cars lol

[rose dawn]

It’s my last year

[rose dawn]

Yeah I’m into mechanics

[molten lake]

i dont even have a car

[rose dawn]

Me and my dad buy cars and work on them

[rose dawn]

That’s sad

[wet beacon]

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-15.6-inch-laptop-pc-15-e2000/2100372089/model/2100376551/document/c07918009 this is your exact laptop model...(2126wm) nowhere it says the max upgradable to 16GB!.. the standard memory setup is 8GB (4x2).. But I would be disappointed if it doesnt support 16 GB...

[rose dawn]

Huh

[molten lake]

sometimes i don't believe the max supported capacity of ram in the OEM site lol

becus most of the time, it supports more capacity

[wet beacon]

I dont believe anything HP says lol..but usually it is the rule let users know about the max supported size...Dell does that! (at least)

[molten lake]

why is everyone hating on hp all of a sudden XD

[molten lake]

that's why i said never trust the OEM spec, it's the speculation of them that the laptop can handle that much capacity only

but it can handle more

[rose dawn]

I’m blaming it on hp not the ram

[molten lake]

my laptop have a 32GB ram and it's an asus x555q somethn

[rose dawn]

How much did you pay for that?

[wet beacon]

My cpu can support upto 64GB..but dell limited it to 16GB..some had success using 32GB ... so its not a quite a clear-cut answer...it will depend on the OEM...

[molten lake]

$50 CAD

[rose dawn]

Idk how much that is in usd one sec

[molten lake]

bout 30 usd

[rose dawn]

How

[molten lake]

cad is expensive than usd

[rose dawn]

Dang

I paid $400 for my laptop

Wish I bought a pc…

[molten lake]

ye

[rose dawn]

I have the capability to build a pc

[molten lake]

cudve gotten at least a ryzen 3100 or 2600, and 16GB 3000MHz or possibly lower and an gtx

[rose dawn]

Yeah

[molten lake]

heck u can get 3600 cheaper and OC so it's comparable to at least 3900

[rose dawn]

Yeah

[wet beacon]

I always support buying a desktop for gaming only... rather than gaming laptop!

[molten lake]

now that i think about it, im have ryzen 3600 and haven't done any OC

[molten lake]

ye gaming laptop is a scam

all they do is heat up

[wet beacon]

Yep! also less for more money

now about the new ram... its sketchy.. it doesnt match crucial at all...

I would rather not waste money getting 16GB... .instead would test that ram on someone elses pc to find out whether it was indeed a compatibility issue...

[molten lake]

cud also be just the cpu reading/writing on the ram too that is an issue

so ye do that

[rose dawn]

Yeah I didn’t buy it for gaming

I mean it was one of the reasons but

[wet beacon]

If you are facing no issue... Then mark it as solved...
Happy gaming!...

[molten lake]

weirdly enuf i encountered someone with the same issue and he replaced his board and bam it is gone. Lol.

so in his case it's definitely incompatibility lol

[signal osprey]

That's firmware issue, not incompatibility

[molten lake]

exactly

incompatible with some firmware, and some are not

[signal osprey]

It always was as saiyan suggested, and that kid lied about old ram.

There are no old ram, it's all made up

[tiny basalt]

let's not throw around accusations or call people names

[signal osprey]

okay

[tiny basalt]

if this is resolved yall can just let the thread die

[signal osprey]

Still he lied and made that up about old ram, nowhere he mentioned he replaced new ram, and suddenly he says it

[tiny basalt]

aight i'm closing this bye

[signal osprey]

close it