#Pc crash
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Alrighr
The other one won't work, it's for intel
Thx
As it clearly says there
Yes but probably not by much
Only difference is the screen on the pump/waterblock it seems
I will go for the elite
I just need to wait a while
Some things are sold out
How long does it usually take for them to restock the h9 elite and the motherboard
How did they put the aio at the top and made the cable look like its coming from the already installed fans?
The AIO isn’t on the top, they’re just case fans
The AIO has been installed where the pre-installed fans are
Hence why the tubes are coming from that part of the case
I need to take out my preinstalled fans?
If you want to install your AIO on that panel of the case then yes, you would need to
The aio needs to be thermal pasted on the cpu?
like i said earlier, even if you aren't building the PC yourself, i would suggest familiarising your self with the parts, how they function and what their purpose is
whether that is through reading articles / guides or watching youtube videos on PCs being built
I saw some youtube videos
And they did thermal paste on the cpu and then did the aio on it
the point of thermal paste is to fill the microscopic flaws in both surfaces, the top of the CPU and the base of the heatsink or in this case the base of the AIO
like cheese said, thermal paste comes pre-applied to your AIO so you don't need to buy additional thermal paste unless you want some as a backup
nor do you need to apply your own
So for no bottleneck i need to buy this gpu instead of the 3060
People say the 7900x3d and 7950x3d are bad
well they arent
You’ll always have a bottleneck - a 3060 is a perfectly good card if it is within your budget.
A 4070 would perform better and likely last longer in terms of how long it’ll be before you want to upgrade it.
It’s down to you to choose where it is worth spending more now or settle with a 3060 and upgrade it in a few years
Bad is relative, without elaborating there is no way of knowing if it is bad and or not in the mind of whoever is saying that
For your usecase the 7900 CPUs are perfectly fine
I also found this
I was told this motherboard is not so good and that i needed a msi one
Someone on youtube said that the n7 b650e are basically Rebatched asrocks
I found this gpu aswell
and why is that a problem? those nzxt mobos are good looking and also white
asrock isn't a bad brand either
@worldly cedar
?
She said because i had problems with faulty hardware with my olds pc’s and this mobo is new on the site it maybe a bad idea
What
And the nzxt brand not really popular
NZXT is definitely a popular brand
Well if it's that much cheaper get the MSI
Even if you have that much money you shouldn't just get the most expensive stuff
But i want the best
There's probably very minimal difference except looks
Yeah, just looked
Anything that matters to you there's no difference
So this will give no bottleneck
there is always a bottleneck
that cannot be completely eliminated
but those parts are very good
What is holding what back then
Can't really say, but there will always be a bottleneck
@worthy plank Well if you want the best... https://www.scan.co.uk/products/48gb-pny-nvidia-rtx-6000-pcie-40-ada-lovelace-gddr6-911-tflops-sp-2106-tflops-rt-1457-tflops-tensor
How much euros is 7000 pounds
8145
Bruh
Also wait you are getting the NZXT motherboard?
I think so
Is there a difference between the 2?
On bol.com it doesnt show all specifications
No looks like the same
nothing
Are the ram sticks good
Yes
You know that's around 3000 right?
Why not
People say the psu give whine noise
I doubt you'll hear that when it's in a case
And that's true for all power supplies really
Especially that high of a power output
?
Which part
Wdym
Which part of what I said do you not understand
Its normal for such high of a power output?
That is what I said yes
What do i buy to make it not make that noise
You won't hear it through the case
Then how did people know it makes that noise
I didn’t say that
Im just making sure of everything since its alot of money
How much would a prebuilt pc cost with the same specs
Alot more expensive right?
yes
200-500 more than what it is now?
yes
Okay i will buy it
Ok
C1200 is good but check if you can get evga supernova 1300w psu..if you can!...
Dont i need the evga motherboard then?
Why cant i do the c1200
This is what i have till now
No
You can mix and match most motherboards and PSUs
Look i have this now
Idk which gpu
a 1300 or even a 1200w PSU seems overkill to me
the powerdraw of your system is going to be sub 800w and that is giving it plenty of headroom
as for GPU, go for whatever AMD or Nvidia card is in your budget and fits the aesthetic you're aiming for
with all those parts you're looking at something in the range of €2000 without the GPU
I will still take the psu
The psu is 230
But which gpu do i pick then for no bottleneck
And for good performance for gaming
2081 exactly
In total
i accounted for the PSUs price.
like i have said to you in the past - there will always be a bottleneck in a system, there is no avoiding that.
3070,3080,3090, 4070, 4080, 4090 are all great cards that will perform well in most modern games - the further along that list you get you'd expect better performance.
The further up the list you get, you'll also expect it to last longer in terms of performance as games get more resource intensive over the coming years - if your aim is to make your PC last as long as possible then go for a higher end GPU, if you don't need overkill then go with one that performance more than well enough to run the games you want to play at the resolution and refresh rate you plan on playing at now and / or in the future.
like i have said to you in the past, the terms "good" and "bad" are relative
a 4070 ti is bad for rendering workstations in comparison to a 4090.
meanwhile it is great for gaming in comparison to a 1080 ti.
a 4070ti is perfectly fine for most modern games, if it is within your budget
The reason most people say the 4070 Ti is bad is because of the price, the card itself has good performance
What is the difference between these
this is another great point, depending on the current market, sales and what not, a 4070ti is likely worse value for money in comparison to your other example of a 3060
they appear to be the same card.
Also there have been reports of Gigabyte RTX 30/40 series PCBs cracking, so I would avoid them personally
Which one do i take then
it's down to you to make the decision
weigh up the pros and cons of each, the reputations they've built etc etc
the more you ask here the more different opinions you'll get
that isn't necessarily a bad thing but at some point you need to take into consideration all those opinions and come to a final decision
Would also recommend /r/buildapc
But i only need a gpu
So? Just submit your current parts list and people over there can recommend a GPU for you
They'll also give you suggestions to further improve your already existing parts
Wait what is r
it is a reddit community
I dont use reddit
it was simply a suggestion to get further opinions on your current parts list
it is up to you whether you utilise it or not
There is only a gigabyte 4070 ti
The parts are good
Ok?
Do i look for a normal 4070?
Wait 4070 are only gigabyte
In white
And the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 White almost same price as 4090
ASUS, GALAX, MSI, PNY, MAXSUN and KFA2 all sell white 4070/4070ti cards
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-o12g-white/
https://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/geforce-rtx-4070ti-exg-w.html
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-GAMING-X-TRIO-WHITE-12G
https://www.amazon.com/Geforce-iCraft-OC-Graphics-Computer/dp/B0BTNSS6GG
https://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/40-series/geforce-rtx-4070-exg-w.html
it is obviously up to you to come to a conclusion on the reputation of each brand alongside researching their performance if you do choose to consider one of the lesser known brands
Msi is the best right
not necessarily
in terms of reputation, MSI and Asus have fairly good reputations but that alone is subjective
performance wise, you would need to get benchmarks and statistics for the cards you're considering
value wise, you would need to do the same and factor in cost etc
if you asked here, people would likely suggest MSI and ASUS over the lesser known brands
the product page i linked doesn't include a price, you'll have to find that from a reseller of their cards
correct, they only make white 40 series cards with 3 fans from the 4080 and up
it is white with silver accents
if you don't like the aesthetic then don't pick it
the list i gave wasn't exhaustive so there are likely more options that you can find with a little research
I will just go for this one
Or should i just go for the 4090
@rose thunder
And is the amd r7 7800x3d good for it
Or do i need to go for intel
The motherboard you have picked doesn’t support intel CPUs
Do i need to go for intel motherboard and intel cpu or amd
And which brand does the 4090 need to be
If you want an intel CPU you’ll need a motherboard that has the correct socket
Currently, you have an AMD cpu with a motherboard that supports AMD CPUs
there is no issue with that
Whether you go for that or the 4090 is up to your discretion, depending on the games you play / other things you use your PC for, it may be a bad financial choice in comparison to a lower end GPU but like I said, it is entirely up to you. A 4070 can handle most modern games
As for the brand, like I mentioned earlier, it is down to you to decide, you’ve been made aware of Gigabytes design flaws so you should take that into consideration
But is amd better or intel for the 4090
You can’t compare performance of the bands, you would need to compare performance of specific CPUs being paired with the 4090
And even then with the right match ups, the graphics performance would be negligible between both intel and AMDs CPU lineups in most cases
It should do from what I recall off the top of my head however I would suggest checking the spec sheets of both for the dimensions
Its gpu clearance is 435mm
The cases width-wise GPU clearance isn’t as relevant if you’re using a vertical bracket
28 x 246 x 165 millimeter
So then how much is it
I don’t have the spec sheets to hand but I’m sure someone can figure it out if they have enough free time
I don’t have the spec sheets to hand but I’m sure the product pages clearly state the dimensions of both.
It says 28 x 246 x 165 millimeter
yes
woah woah woah what happened to the 2000 euro budget
Bro i cant find a other gpu
????
People say its bad
don't spend 2000 euros on a GPU that's such a scam 💀
Get an AMD 7900 XTX
yes
Is it better
the 4090 is like slightly better but not worth the massive waste of money
Nvidia trash now
And you're only going to be playing on 1080p you said so it really doesn't matter
Well i have a 1440 now
still fine
But not for long
What makes this better than 4070
What are you even going to be playing
It's definitely better than that
Apex legends, gta, dbd
Definitely get 7900 xtx
Is it better than 4080
yes
Bro this one looks so nice
Well my dad thought of a idea of looking for someone who builds pc’s and then let him order all these parts and pay him
So we can have warranty
sounds like a good idea
And the guy who builds the pc’s lives very close to us
Does this gpu look nicer vertically or not vertically tho?
Anything else i need to upgrade?
Or is this it
that is it
yes
Or is there a nice looking and better of something such as the motherboard and fans
the motherboard is the nicest one i've seen
Is it possible to stick stickers on it
on the motherboard..?
On the msi motherboard i saw a dragon logo or something and it looks so nice
yeah but don't do that it'll ruin it
Okay
in my opinion
Im getting these too
Do you need the internal hub?
Well that internal usb hub is for plugging stuff like fan controllers and stuff in the case
The motherboard has 5 of those headers already
And there's 8 normal usb ports on the back of the motherboard
Is this better or building myself
All the components have warranty
give it to someone who knows what they are doing
Okay
1 last question i think
Some people said that the 1 fan on the left doesnt have rgb
Is that false?
Or do i need to put rgb there myself
Yeah that one doesn't have RGB
Bruh
Do i need to replace the fan
Or just add rgb
To make it look like the picture
You'd probably have enough RGB from your other fans and the AIO, but you can get another RGB fan if you want
No, you already have a water cooler
yes
I have a kraken elite 280 rgb
Not a t120
But the kraken elite 280 is better right
Okay the actual last 2 questions
lol
Yes
How?
With the NZXT CAM software
Yes your motherboard also has like temp sensors and stuff that can report to NZXT CAM
yes
Okay and last question
Can i be able to add another screen lose in the pc somewhere or add like those water pipes
Don't know what you mean
Like this
for that you would need custom water cooling which is a lot more effort and way more money
so no
Yeah that should be pretty easy
How much mm does it need to be to fit in my pc?
I want to use wallpaper engine on it
you can probably put it at the bottom like touching the glass
Sure whatever
5 inch hdmi screen
They all look so ugly
well maybe don't get one then
Looks nice but it's pretty expensive
Is there cheaper?
Maybe
My total is 3444
If this was prebuilt it would be like 5k
With same specs
Same all
So one last time sending all
looks good
Thx
People say the 7900 xtx is bad too
Broo
Everytime i want to send all the images i keep finding people who say its bad
It has alot of driver issues and it has worse performance than nvidia
The 4090 only good one besides price
who
stop saying that and providing 0 source
People on youtube and tiktok
People online will find a bone to pick with literally every single one of the components you've picked out, if you think it's good enough for the things you need to do, then go for it
this
💀
This is why it's so expensive
@worthy plank What monitor are you going to be getting
1080p, but what refresh rate
Idk yet
144hz or below you won't be able to tell the difference
There is a apex pro youtuber who has this Gaming PC: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, Graphics Card: GeForce RTX 3070Ti, Ram: 16Gb, 1TB. Streaming PC: CPU: Intel Core i7-3770, Graphics Card: GeForce GTX1060, Ram: 16Gb, 2TB. And seems to be getting better performance than what these benchmarks videos of my very good pc is showing
How is that possible?
So you've found a video benchmarking a computer with the exact same components as yours?
Not exact same components just the 7900 xtx and r7 7800x3d
And i even looked with the 4080
But the 7900 xtx is way better than rtx 3070ti and the r7 7800x3d is way better than the r9 5900x
So how
He has this monitor = Alienware AW2521HFA
Maybe i want like 240 hz
What
U in the wrong channel
#tech-support
Everyone can type there
240
@whole haven intel has better performance than amd?
In gaming?
idk
Mann now i dont know what to choose anymore
the parts you already have
Is a 240 hz monitor good enough
144hz is good enough so yes
@whole haven is there a site where u can build a own pc and see what it looks like
I haven't seen any other than NZXT BLD