#Pc crash

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whole haven
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The top one

worthy plank
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Alrighr

whole haven
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The other one won't work, it's for intel

worthy plank
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Thx

whole haven
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As it clearly says there

worthy plank
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Yeah sorry

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Is the kraken elite 280 rgb better than kraken 280 rgb

whole haven
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Yes but probably not by much

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Only difference is the screen on the pump/waterblock it seems

worthy plank
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I will go for the elite

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I just need to wait a while

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Some things are sold out

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How long does it usually take for them to restock the h9 elite and the motherboard

worthy plank
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How did they put the aio at the top and made the cable look like its coming from the already installed fans?

rose thunder
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The AIO isn’t on the top, they’re just case fans

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The AIO has been installed where the pre-installed fans are

Hence why the tubes are coming from that part of the case

worthy plank
rose thunder
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If you want to install your AIO on that panel of the case then yes, you would need to

worthy plank
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The aio needs to be thermal pasted on the cpu?

whole haven
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it has it preapplied

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also does this guy still not understand the concept of an AIO

rose thunder
# worthy plank The aio needs to be thermal pasted on the cpu?

like i said earlier, even if you aren't building the PC yourself, i would suggest familiarising your self with the parts, how they function and what their purpose is
whether that is through reading articles / guides or watching youtube videos on PCs being built

worthy plank
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I saw some youtube videos

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And they did thermal paste on the cpu and then did the aio on it

rose thunder
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the point of thermal paste is to fill the microscopic flaws in both surfaces, the top of the CPU and the base of the heatsink or in this case the base of the AIO

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like cheese said, thermal paste comes pre-applied to your AIO so you don't need to buy additional thermal paste unless you want some as a backup

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nor do you need to apply your own

worthy plank
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So for no bottleneck i need to buy this gpu instead of the 3060

worthy plank
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People say the 7900x3d and 7950x3d are bad

whole haven
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well they arent

rose thunder
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You’ll always have a bottleneck - a 3060 is a perfectly good card if it is within your budget.

A 4070 would perform better and likely last longer in terms of how long it’ll be before you want to upgrade it.

It’s down to you to choose where it is worth spending more now or settle with a 3060 and upgrade it in a few years

rose thunder
worthy plank
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Someone on youtube said that the n7 b650e are basically Rebatched asrocks

whole haven
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asrock isn't a bad brand either

worthy plank
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@worldly cedar

whole haven
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?

worthy plank
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She said because i had problems with faulty hardware with my olds pc’s and this mobo is new on the site it maybe a bad idea

whole haven
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What

worthy plank
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And the nzxt brand not really popular

whole haven
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NZXT is definitely a popular brand

worthy plank
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Which one better

whole haven
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Well if it's that much cheaper get the MSI

worthy plank
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But is it better

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Price doesn’t matter

whole haven
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Even if you have that much money you shouldn't just get the most expensive stuff

worthy plank
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But i want the best

whole haven
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There's probably very minimal difference except looks

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Yeah, just looked
Anything that matters to you there's no difference

worthy plank
whole haven
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there is always a bottleneck
that cannot be completely eliminated

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but those parts are very good

worthy plank
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What is holding what back then

whole haven
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Can't really say, but there will always be a bottleneck

worthy plank
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Wait do i need the 4070 ti then or the one i just ss

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??

worthy plank
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How much euros is 7000 pounds

whole haven
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8145

worthy plank
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Bruh

whole haven
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Also wait you are getting the NZXT motherboard?

worthy plank
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I think so

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Is there a difference between the 2?

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On bol.com it doesnt show all specifications

whole haven
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No looks like the same

worthy plank
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On bol it doesnt show 21000 mhz

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What needs to chage

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Change

whole haven
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nothing

worthy plank
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Are the ram sticks good

whole haven
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Yes

worthy plank
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And the cpu too

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Im just not sure about the psu and motherboard

whole haven
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You know that's around 3000 right?

whole haven
worthy plank
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People say the psu give whine noise

whole haven
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I doubt you'll hear that when it's in a case

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And that's true for all power supplies really

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Especially that high of a power output

worthy plank
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?

whole haven
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Which part

worthy plank
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Wdym

whole haven
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Which part of what I said do you not understand

worthy plank
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Its normal for such high of a power output?

whole haven
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That is what I said yes

worthy plank
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What do i buy to make it not make that noise

whole haven
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You won't hear it through the case

worthy plank
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Then how did people know it makes that noise

whole haven
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bro 💀

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Sure buy a different one if you want

worthy plank
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I didn’t say that

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Im just making sure of everything since its alot of money

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How much would a prebuilt pc cost with the same specs

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Alot more expensive right?

whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
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How much

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If you had to guess

whole haven
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like 200-500

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idk

worthy plank
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200-500 more than what it is now?

whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
whole haven
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Ok

worldly cedar
worthy plank
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Why cant i do the c1200

rose thunder
worthy plank
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Idk which gpu

rose thunder
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a 1300 or even a 1200w PSU seems overkill to me
the powerdraw of your system is going to be sub 800w and that is giving it plenty of headroom

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as for GPU, go for whatever AMD or Nvidia card is in your budget and fits the aesthetic you're aiming for

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with all those parts you're looking at something in the range of €2000 without the GPU

worthy plank
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I will still take the psu

worthy plank
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But which gpu do i pick then for no bottleneck

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And for good performance for gaming

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2081 exactly

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In total

rose thunder
rose thunder
# worthy plank But which gpu do i pick then for no bottleneck

like i have said to you in the past - there will always be a bottleneck in a system, there is no avoiding that.

3070,3080,3090, 4070, 4080, 4090 are all great cards that will perform well in most modern games - the further along that list you get you'd expect better performance.

The further up the list you get, you'll also expect it to last longer in terms of performance as games get more resource intensive over the coming years - if your aim is to make your PC last as long as possible then go for a higher end GPU, if you don't need overkill then go with one that performance more than well enough to run the games you want to play at the resolution and refresh rate you plan on playing at now and / or in the future.

worthy plank
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Why did you delete

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So the 4070 ti isnt bad?

rose thunder
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like i have said to you in the past, the terms "good" and "bad" are relative

a 4070 ti is bad for rendering workstations in comparison to a 4090.
meanwhile it is great for gaming in comparison to a 1080 ti.

a 4070ti is perfectly fine for most modern games, if it is within your budget

worthy plank
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So it is good for gaming

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Its better than the 3060 right

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A lot

serene flax
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The reason most people say the 4070 Ti is bad is because of the price, the card itself has good performance

worthy plank
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What is the difference between these

rose thunder
rose thunder
serene flax
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Also there have been reports of Gigabyte RTX 30/40 series PCBs cracking, so I would avoid them personally

worthy plank
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Which one do i take then

rose thunder
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the more you ask here the more different opinions you'll get

that isn't necessarily a bad thing but at some point you need to take into consideration all those opinions and come to a final decision

serene flax
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Would also recommend /r/buildapc

worthy plank
serene flax
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So? Just submit your current parts list and people over there can recommend a GPU for you

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They'll also give you suggestions to further improve your already existing parts

worthy plank
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Wait what is r

rose thunder
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it is a reddit community

serene flax
worthy plank
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I dont use reddit

rose thunder
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it was simply a suggestion to get further opinions on your current parts list
it is up to you whether you utilise it or not

worthy plank
serene flax
worthy plank
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Wait 4070 are only gigabyte

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In white

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And the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 White almost same price as 4090

rose thunder
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ASUS, GALAX, MSI, PNY, MAXSUN and KFA2 all sell white 4070/4070ti cards

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-o12g-white/
https://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/geforce-rtx-4070ti-exg-w.html
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-GAMING-X-TRIO-WHITE-12G
https://www.amazon.com/Geforce-iCraft-OC-Graphics-Computer/dp/B0BTNSS6GG
https://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/40-series/geforce-rtx-4070-exg-w.html

it is obviously up to you to come to a conclusion on the reputation of each brand alongside researching their performance if you do choose to consider one of the lesser known brands

worthy plank
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Msi is the best right

rose thunder
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not necessarily
in terms of reputation, MSI and Asus have fairly good reputations but that alone is subjective

performance wise, you would need to get benchmarks and statistics for the cards you're considering
value wise, you would need to do the same and factor in cost etc

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if you asked here, people would likely suggest MSI and ASUS over the lesser known brands

worthy plank
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The galax one looks clean tho

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Why cant i see price

rose thunder
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the product page i linked doesn't include a price, you'll have to find that from a reseller of their cards

worthy plank
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Asus only has duo fans

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And the msi one is silver

rose thunder
rose thunder
# worthy plank And the msi one is silver

it is white with silver accents
if you don't like the aesthetic then don't pick it

the list i gave wasn't exhaustive so there are likely more options that you can find with a little research

worthy plank
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I will just go for this one

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Or should i just go for the 4090

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@rose thunder

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And is the amd r7 7800x3d good for it

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Or do i need to go for intel

rose thunder
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The motherboard you have picked doesn’t support intel CPUs

worthy plank
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Do i need to go for intel motherboard and intel cpu or amd

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And which brand does the 4090 need to be

rose thunder
rose thunder
# worthy plank And which brand does the 4090 need to be

Whether you go for that or the 4090 is up to your discretion, depending on the games you play / other things you use your PC for, it may be a bad financial choice in comparison to a lower end GPU but like I said, it is entirely up to you. A 4070 can handle most modern games

As for the brand, like I mentioned earlier, it is down to you to decide, you’ve been made aware of Gigabytes design flaws so you should take that into consideration

worthy plank
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But is amd better or intel for the 4090

rose thunder
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You can’t compare performance of the bands, you would need to compare performance of specific CPUs being paired with the 4090

And even then with the right match ups, the graphics performance would be negligible between both intel and AMDs CPU lineups in most cases

worthy plank
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Okay i will just go for the 7800x3d

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Will the 4090 even fit in the h9 elite case

rose thunder
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It should do from what I recall off the top of my head however I would suggest checking the spec sheets of both for the dimensions

worthy plank
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Its gpu clearance is 435mm

rose thunder
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The cases width-wise GPU clearance isn’t as relevant if you’re using a vertical bracket

worthy plank
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28 x 246 x 165 millimeter

rose thunder
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I don’t have the spec sheets to hand but I’m sure someone can figure it out if they have enough free time

worthy plank
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Google says it fits in the h5

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Is that smaller than the h9

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?

rose thunder
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I don’t have the spec sheets to hand but I’m sure the product pages clearly state the dimensions of both.

worthy plank
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It says 28 x 246 x 165 millimeter

whole haven
worthy plank
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Anything else that can get a upgrade?

whole haven
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woah woah woah what happened to the 2000 euro budget

worthy plank
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Bro i cant find a other gpu

whole haven
worthy plank
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People say its bad

whole haven
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don't spend 2000 euros on a GPU that's such a scam 💀

worthy plank
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But its the best gpu

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Tell me which one is better and cheaper

whole haven
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Get an AMD 7900 XTX

worthy plank
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Is it better

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Its not in white

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Or is it this

whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
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Is it better

whole haven
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the 4090 is like slightly better but not worth the massive waste of money

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Nvidia trash now

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And you're only going to be playing on 1080p you said so it really doesn't matter

worthy plank
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Well i have a 1440 now

whole haven
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still fine

worthy plank
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But not for long

worthy plank
whole haven
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What are you even going to be playing

whole haven
worthy plank
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Apex legends, gta, dbd

whole haven
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Definitely get 7900 xtx

worthy plank
whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
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How

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The 4080 more expensive

whole haven
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Exactly my point

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Nvidia are being very scammy with their pricing recently

worthy plank
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Bro this one looks so nice

whole haven
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yeah

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who's going to build the computer?

worthy plank
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Well my dad thought of a idea of looking for someone who builds pc’s and then let him order all these parts and pay him

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So we can have warranty

whole haven
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sounds like a good idea

worthy plank
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And the guy who builds the pc’s lives very close to us

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Does this gpu look nicer vertically or not vertically tho?

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Or is this it

whole haven
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that is it

worthy plank
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There is nothing else i need to change

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Are you 100% sure

whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
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Or is there a nice looking and better of something such as the motherboard and fans

whole haven
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the motherboard is the nicest one i've seen

worthy plank
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Is it possible to stick stickers on it

whole haven
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on the motherboard..?

worthy plank
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On the msi motherboard i saw a dragon logo or something and it looks so nice

worthy plank
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Like a dragon sticker

whole haven
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yeah but don't do that it'll ruin it

worthy plank
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Okay

whole haven
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in my opinion

worthy plank
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Im getting these too

whole haven
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Do you need the internal hub?

worthy plank
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I think there’s only 2 usb on the case

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Wait but the case says 2 years warranty

whole haven
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Well that internal usb hub is for plugging stuff like fan controllers and stuff in the case

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The motherboard has 5 of those headers already

worthy plank
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Oh

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But everything on nzxt has warranty

whole haven
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And there's 8 normal usb ports on the back of the motherboard

worthy plank
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All the components have warranty

whole haven
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give it to someone who knows what they are doing

worthy plank
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Okay

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1 last question i think

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Some people said that the 1 fan on the left doesnt have rgb

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Is that false?

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Or do i need to put rgb there myself

whole haven
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Yeah that one doesn't have RGB

worthy plank
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Bruh

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Do i need to replace the fan

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Or just add rgb

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To make it look like the picture

whole haven
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You'd probably have enough RGB from your other fans and the AIO, but you can get another RGB fan if you want

worthy plank
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I dont need a T120 air cooler right?

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So this one

whole haven
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No, you already have a water cooler

whole haven
worthy plank
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Not a t120

whole haven
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Yes, it's one or the other

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You physically can't have both

worthy plank
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But the kraken elite 280 is better right

whole haven
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yes

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water is much better at moving heat that air is

worthy plank
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Okay the actual last 2 questions

whole haven
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lol

worthy plank
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Can i change the screen

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On this one

whole haven
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Yes

worthy plank
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How?

whole haven
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With the NZXT CAM software

worthy plank
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And that i have featured on my motherboard?

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The cam feature

whole haven
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Yes your motherboard also has like temp sensors and stuff that can report to NZXT CAM

worthy plank
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Like how hot it gets

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The cpu

whole haven
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yes

worthy plank
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Okay and last question

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Can i be able to add another screen lose in the pc somewhere or add like those water pipes

whole haven
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Don't know what you mean

worthy plank
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Like this

whole haven
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for that you would need custom water cooling which is a lot more effort and way more money

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so no

worthy plank
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And this

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A small screen

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Doesnt need to be that big since my case a lot smaller

whole haven
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Yeah that should be pretty easy

worthy plank
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How much mm does it need to be to fit in my pc?

worthy plank
whole haven
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probably the same size as that one

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8 in

worthy plank
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Will that fit in my pc?

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And where am i supposed to make it fit in the pc

whole haven
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you can probably put it at the bottom like touching the glass

worthy plank
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He also has a 5 inch screen

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I think thats batter

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Better

whole haven
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Sure whatever

worthy plank
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But what do i look on google

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I can only find weird looking screens

whole haven
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5 inch hdmi screen

worthy plank
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They all look so ugly

whole haven
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well maybe don't get one then

worthy plank
whole haven
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Looks nice but it's pretty expensive

worthy plank
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Is there cheaper?

whole haven
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Maybe

worthy plank
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My total is 3444

whole haven
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lol

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bro is stacked

worthy plank
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If this was prebuilt it would be like 5k

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With same specs

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Same all

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So one last time sending all

whole haven
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looks good

worthy plank
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Thx

whole haven
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made similar pc in pcbs

worthy plank
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People say the 7900 xtx is bad too

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Broo

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Everytime i want to send all the images i keep finding people who say its bad

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It has alot of driver issues and it has worse performance than nvidia

worthy plank
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The 4090 only good one besides price

whole haven
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stop saying that and providing 0 source

worthy plank
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People on youtube and tiktok

whole haven
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ok tiktok ignore

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what youtubers

serene flax
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People online will find a bone to pick with literally every single one of the components you've picked out, if you think it's good enough for the things you need to do, then go for it

whole haven
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this

worthy plank
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Think imma just go for the 4090 man

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More expensive but better performance

whole haven
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💀

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This is why it's so expensive

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@worthy plank What monitor are you going to be getting

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1080p, but what refresh rate

worthy plank
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Idk yet

whole haven
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144hz or below you won't be able to tell the difference

worthy plank
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There is a apex pro youtuber who has this Gaming PC: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, Graphics Card: GeForce RTX 3070Ti, Ram: 16Gb, 1TB. Streaming PC: CPU: Intel Core i7-3770, Graphics Card: GeForce GTX1060, Ram: 16Gb, 2TB. And seems to be getting better performance than what these benchmarks videos of my very good pc is showing

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How is that possible?

whole haven
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So you've found a video benchmarking a computer with the exact same components as yours?

worthy plank
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Not exact same components just the 7900 xtx and r7 7800x3d

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And i even looked with the 4080

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But the 7900 xtx is way better than rtx 3070ti and the r7 7800x3d is way better than the r9 5900x

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So how

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He has this monitor = Alienware AW2521HFA

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Maybe i want like 240 hz

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What

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U in the wrong channel

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#tech-support

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Everyone can type there

worthy plank
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@whole haven intel has better performance than amd?

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In gaming?

whole haven
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idk

worthy plank
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Mann now i dont know what to choose anymore

whole haven
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the parts you already have

worthy plank
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Is a 240 hz monitor good enough

whole haven
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144hz is good enough so yes

worthy plank
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@whole haven is there a site where u can build a own pc and see what it looks like

whole haven
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I haven't seen any other than NZXT BLD