#Qatar GP 2021 - November 19th to 21st
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Oh yeah this track was new as well right ? I barely looked at the layout and heard it was used in the MotoGP : how will it handle F1 cars in your opinion ?
the race is prolly gunna be well not good
https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2021/Qatar.html The hell is ooredoo
shit
one track 78% shit confirmed
jeddah which is 98% shit confirmed, if finished
and yas marina could be great
The Jeddah track do exist in F1 2021 rn. If you want to see what it looks like then go look at like Jarno Opmeers hotlap video.
An internet company
AR will be the new Haas 
They will even be BotHaas
When ar will be the new haas
But then you realise bothaas will be a thing 
Aaargh come on, Just Let them race ffs
Red Bull couldn't get any sanctions on top of steward's decision when one car was literally obliterated, wtf Merc wants when basically nothing much happened?
ah the silly games of F1 
Buuut RedBull has gone out to the swedish news and said that they want the FIA to look over Mercedes because their car went 30kph faster on the straight in Brazil and in Mexico it was 14kph on a longer straight. Its not just the engine that makes it faster.. it is something more and I know it.
They certainly did something for this massive turnaround for sure.
engine
4 races to go
a brand new engine, they can push it to the max without having to make it reliable for 7k km
Yea but still 15kph more on a shorter straight? Yea no that’s not right
🗿
yeah but again, they might have 50+ hp at the top of the rev line compared to RB, we never know
could be that, could be aero, could be both (most likely)
it's both suspicious and normal, something need to be found to prove if it's legit or not I guess
Ferrari 2019 moment

Also there's P∝v^3,which means in order to go,idk,30kph faster than 300kph (which I presume the dead bull car is doing,I don't watch the race) you need about 330^3/300^3=130% the power
F1 cars have like what,1000hp at best? So that's an increase from 1000hp to 1300hp
So yeah,since everyone seems to be saying it's the engine then I guess Mercedes has gained 300hp instead of 50
Ferrari 2019 moment,ban them from motor racing immediately
ive tried to say this like 10 times. you cant convince him.
You think they would be allowed to run dramatically different engine modes? When the extremes of that like Mercedes party mode from way back when were actually banned.
I could be wrong, but that only banned the ability to change engine modes throughout the weekend
That would be extremely wack, especially considering that gears ARE locked for the entire season long.
Like I said, I could be wrong. But that was my understanding
Inb4 Mercedes is just better and lifted sandbags is the only change 
I strongly doubt Mercedes would risk being disqualified from the entirety of the season to win.
Yeah pulling a Ferrari so soon after 2019 would be dangerous.
Yes
So who knows lol.
But crazier stuff has happened
When internet bad so messages send in wrong order
Maybe there's some grey zone we don't know about, Mercedes are masters of that.
True
That would suck for redbull
But at the same time I would be really surprised if they were still exploiting grey zones this late into the last season of these regs
They're already pissed so if something big would be found too late...Helmut will literally blow up 
Mfw 🗿
Progression(?) of Jeddah circuit
We are just ignoring norris?
he is there on the image so he is among the top
He has the same engine 🗿
yes
the williams and am are bad with areo
man forgot to put his foot all the way down or something
i wanted to see what top speds everyone hit in the race and not the sprint sadly this is what i was able to find on f1 subreddit atm
cause i have no idea how you get 308
Lmao
Couldnt it just be far less drag than Red Bull?
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Did Max even try to make the corner
It could. Like I was saying,suggesting that he gained 30kph over an engine only is ridiculous,unless AMG were cheating and gained 30% more power
Rb running more drag, lower engine modes on a worn out engine to preserve it with Merc running max engine mode on a new engine with as little drag as possible
If Max gets a 5s penalty Bottas gets P2 so Im praying
Yeah,that sounds like the most logical assumption. If I were AMG I would give Hamilton a new engine for every race of the remainder of the season,as long as the track is power-dependant and is good for overtaking

what the actual fuck
bottas running monaco wings wtf
fr
Bottas will have all the sandbags possible on, until he leaves for Alfa 
https://twitter.com/LukeSmithF1/status/1461398300729425927 Thanks FIA For making us wait even more
No decision on the Max/Lewis incident in Brazil today. Decision will be made tomorrow
#QatarGP https://t.co/Y4R3BEb2Qa
The stewards feel the footage is new, it was unavailable at the time, it is relevant but it is NOT significant.
"...there is nothing in the footage that fundamentally changes the facts..."
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qatar feels boring to look at
Pretty.
indeed
Disappointed but not surprised
Why expect punishment now? Race was over a week ago
5 days*
Extremely based.
wow cant believe there are only 3 races left
Still so many till new regs. I guess depends how you look at it xD
Qatar Qaly Time
Merc pole 100%
Ah yes RB using a flamethrower
prediction: bottas for pole
Q1 K.O: Rai, Lat, Gio, Msc, Maz
Leclerc where pace?
Oh
Nani?
that hurt
Q2 K.O: Per, Str, Lec, Ric, Rus
What
+0.3 to Ver
Lec and Per washed 🗿
Looks like time to prepare to get #blessed
Alonso is making that Alpine look actually good wtf.
Pole: Lewis
Lewis lmao
Q3 times
Red means red flagged or? The ones next to Hamilton and gasly
idk, probably not important
remember hamilton said :" six tenths?!!!" yea that aged well
Maybe noted (?)
Word is Lewis was not using new engine from Brazil? Tis true?
yes https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qy7vd3/albertfabrega_hamilton_wasnt_running_at_the_quali/
Bruh
Might as well wrap the trophy and send It to Mercedes HQ now with this pace 
Anything could still happen
Wouldn't be surprised if the season's title decider ended like Bahrain8H
I swear to god people need to stop using that shit streamable platform
lagging to hell 
even imgur would be better at this point tbh
Works fine for me
idk why I always had problems with this site
Carlos Sainz summoned over alleged single waved yellow flag breach. Will see the stewards at 13:30 Sunday. #QatarGP #F1
that is not how it's supposed to end 😔
Yeah a lot is possible, but I also doubt that we'll see another Silverstone or Hungary to swing things a different direction again. Red Bull will be so pissed if they'll get outplayed thanks to bad luck cutting the entire lead and then Mercedes suddenly waking up 
it's like merc downplayed there performance for majority of season and now are going ham at the end
If that were true they wouldn't be so mad about everything.
Merc for first half of the season were like: rb are really good this weekend we gotta work extra hard this weekend
Or anything along those lines, like it wasn't every race but there was a time where they've said that for like 4 races straight
That's what they used to say when Ferrari was creeping up but always failed 
Toto would be stuck on repeat, telling how strong that Ferrari is...still 0 titles since Kimi's first year in red, imagine.
Of course they would say that,who would want to jinx themselves
Merc are kinda coming back
If lewis wins and max doesnt get the fastest lap for the next 2 races, they would tie in points coming into the last gp
can relate
It's almost funny how we're back at pretty much previous year's pace diff where Red Bull can only fight Bottas who's being thrown at them by Merc 
Epic
The hecc?
Ohhhhh wait that game oh yeah i got it
that's dope ngl
pretty much yeah
Oh shit race in 3 hours
max into stewards in 10 mins, 15 mins of discussion for max, then sainz then bottas
Gotta love that.
please don't end the title here please don't end the title here please don't end the title here please don't end the title here please don't end the title here
I don't think they will do anything title-ending rn for either side, fans would swallow them alive 
it's Masi and the FIA we're talking about, deko 
well they didn't penalize the brazil incident
Yeah, things are not clear rn.
https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1462395319765897216?s=20 The circus begins
DECISION: Three-place grid penalty for Valtteri Bottas #F1 #QatarGP
well this season was good up until mexico
They're penalizing the drivers even though on the official streams yellows were lifted 
If they just normally waved double yellows we wouldn't have that shit.
well f1 streaming production was always lacking shit, and well, usualyl when there is a car dieing on track yellows are out but idk, i guess they should've lifted
We really need new rules on accidents, It's been a shitfest all year long in Q3.
If such an accident where a car is parked clearly outside the racing line is so DANGEROUS stop or end the session entirely lmao
they bring out the reds instantly if the car is beached somewhere
this was a new case tho coz gasly was strolling on the track after shredding his car
bruh moment
Well, at least someone didn't get slapped for this bullshit.
Fucking bullshit, all three did their lap during it. And they give them different penalties. God I hate FIA and their cancer decisions
Right now they’re just giving the championship to Lewis for free
Quali really needs some new rules. This year had too much bs.
lmao @rustic granite
Amazing 
Funnily enough It's 3 GPs in a row where Alpha Tauri somehow interferes and actually makes things worse for Red Bull.
I was surprised they even gave max a penalty ngl
Expected another slap on the wrist
Im not. This shit happened before, yellow means brake or penalty
Of course but they never seem to penalize Max so it was a surprise
Thats literally not true
It is though
Max has gotten a penalty for the exact same shit
Not talking about yellow flags, just incidents in general
He got penalized for yellows in mexico 2019
Also Gasly starts 2nd lmao
well tell people to stop crashing in quali
Yea i hope gasly can make this a good one. He deserves it
inb4 dnf
let's hope he doesn't deja vu qualifying
you will be able to count overtakes on one hand here so a podium is likely
At have notoriously bad strategy tho
Ferrari to finish last.
merc has a notoriously bad strategy as well so i wouldn't be surprised if they bottle this free win
If they lose this they deserve a reward
Bottle? With this pace advantage? That would be something special.
wakes up
launch the stream
check twitter
You see, checking twitter is always a mistake 
Some weird slowdowns on formation lap.
come on, alonso dive bomb the fuck out of anyone in front, remember 2007, do it 
Track really looks lame
From 3rd on an Alpine? He won't reach anyone 
Teams battling only for 5th are having 2 people in top3, amazing.
Valtteri pls.
Too early to tell.
Valtteri can't pass at all, Toto getting impatient on the radio 
lmao Max straight up let through into p2 kek
Yeah nah, not possible, Alpine and AT pace isn't good enough.
still, funny to see alonso letting the door wide open for the rival of his rival 
Looks like nothing is going to happen in this race and Hamilton will win
Yeah, the only thing to watch is 2nd drivers coming back up.
The problem is that they mostly just show Hamilton and Verstappen
Ham still gaining lmao
huh where are you watching cos they're bearly shown
Doesnt everyone get the same camera angles. They arent showing Max and Ham at all for me
mexicans are everywhere lmao
bearly 
🐻
oops barely*
bad niebo
ye
max climbing again 
I think that's more of Lewis chilling, than Max actually doing anything special.
Lewis just needs to press throttle a bit harder and we're back to 2014 
Puncture
Uh oh

Brought It to pits, GJ.
leclerc locks up every turn i swear
perez and nando not giving a single fuck 
Well what were they supposed to do lmao
It blew up right on the corner entry 
What lap are you all on
36
35
Im on 34 or something
36
Im on 36 now
Gasly on double pit, pretty much giving up on chasing Alpine today ig.
"Time to fight Alpine today"
"Damn they fast"
36
How did Perez lose 30 more seconds on Verstappen?
Supreme speed
Traffic, having to back out for dying Bottas too.
Before Perez reached Fernando Alpine was more than a pit behind already.
lap 38 just started now for me
43 here.
lap 57 for me
fucking hell nicolas
That was close yeah 
wtf was that FIA? Just a notif saying TIME Nico Hulkenberg +5????
AHAHAHAH OCON 
NT 
what does that mean
dacha44 is a popular memer in the F1 community
ok?
Bot retires
Russell next for punctures oof.
RUSSELL NOOOO
Bottas absolutely got screwed by that
wait bottas out ? wtf why
too far down
Guess It's not too stupid to pit twice when this shit happens.
Better finish somewhere than potentially blow up.
lattifi too wtf
People on 1 stop being risky rn.
please let alonso get a P3 please let alonso get a P3 please let alonso get a P3 please let alonso get a P3
I'm concerned rn
Lando had a puncture too, hence why they pitted him.
Alonso almost losing It on a weird moment with HAAS.
Idc who else goes out I just want Alonso p3, I started watching like 5 minutes ago and was surprised
They're on a bit of a risky strategy and need to nurse the tires, but VSC pretty much is saving them.
What the fuck is going on
Punctures
Max fl 100%
well done lewis
really an amazing season, this will most probably end up in yas marina now, except if jeddah is cursed
but the most important
Perez was pushing like hell in the end, but that VSC meant that It was for nothing.
There was no way he would have caught up even without it lmao
Congrats to Nando for coming back to big boi places.
why did bottas retire i must’ve missed something
Puncture
We'll never know, Alonso had to go VERY safe to make the finish.
bruh
Yes but he is comically wide
At least Alonso finished on the podium
fucking finally back on a podium
now Maman need to work hard for next year and get him a good car
well he came full circle, started in renault, got to ferrari, died in mclaren and resurrected in renault again
lucky vsc but deserved podium
(for context, Renault is making a TV ad since a few months / years where there's an engineer saying "mommy is working on a hybrid engine, sweetheart" and it has become a meme in the french F1 community)
Good ad
very funny memes tbh, with unlimited variants
ahahahah
Fernando Chadlonso
ocon tried to defend but noone does it like alonso lol
Yeah I just saw it 
Esteban did way better than expected, Alpine should've been passed no chance to talk back, but he got alongside and made Checo work for It.
Honestly though I want Nando back in endurance when Alpine's LMDh is ready
well tbh i'd rather see him attempt indycar
Triple crown when
yeah, he's the only one who will be able to challange it for a good while
Having Nando full time in Indy would be great.
the monaco gp rn is unwinnable for any1 else that would compete in indy or wec
peugeot*
if he manages to win with the wingless peugeot it would be amazing
where tf does crofty get the extremely specific stats
jimmie johnson in indycar lmfao
Random fact: Right now there are 13 different drivers on the podium
honestly I think it would be an incredible pilot there
like ?
wes crofty has a whole sheet of stats written on a notebook ahead of him that he reads mid race
he shared a pic of his notes a while back
i want that notebook
Yeah he would be amazing to have there I'm pretty sure.
Don't forget Montoya said he won the triple crown because he won Le Mans in the LMP2 Pro Am category this year 
well, class win tho
Well I think it's more likely that he stays with Alpine
Well, not really, he didn't win in LMP2, just in the specific Pro Am category

what am i looking at
rock
not even
if you don't win le mans overall P1 it doesn't really count
El Plan working out
le plan for you
montoya has been trying to win the triple crown since 2003 ffs
graham hill moment
Standings:
Max: 351.5
Lewis: 343.5
So Max is gonna win the championship if he gets 1st and 4th with one fastest lap. Well he’s still gonna win with one point without the lap anyway..
max is basically required to win one more race
if max doesn't win things get tricky, also lewis is gonna deploy the brazil engine for the last 2 races
🐖
peppa
If lewis wins the next race with FL all he has to do is keep Max behind.
max can just crash both out last race if he finishes p2 next race
cheap way to do it but oh well that's how schumacher got his name in f1
He will get DSQd lmao
nah
Schumi did
not in 1994
🗿
iirc that wasnt rulen as intentional
like the current pace of lewis and verstappen is just from another world
it doesn't matter where they start they literally gapped the whole field by over 50s
tbf with how the stewards ruled the shit Max pulled he will get away with no penalty so youre right
Bottas kept up with him in Brazil and almost caught up at the end tho, so if he pulls another one of those he might push Max to P3, effectively giving Lewis the title
But if Max still gets P3 and wins a race he has the championship
yeah max has to finish 3rd or lower with lewis winning, to give lewis the edge for abu
With the current pace mans been having, that wont happen
kiwi realistically thinking max has to win jeddah, coz abu with the new track changes is just merc territory
Lewis is using the OCd engine in the last 2 races, good luck
Root, still some weird corners 🗿
he didn't use it for this race
He didnt, yes
I’ve driven the track 🗿
🗿 kiwi
Ik it aint the same as irl but looking to it.. redbull might have it in the tight corners…
yeah but Lulu has 30kmh+ top speed advantage on the 2 big straights lmao
Ik 🗿
3 big straights
Does Bottas? Doesn’t seem like it
well we'll see
Yup
Hopefully if Bottas underqualifies, they swap his ICE and just yeet it through in Jeddah. That way Lewis has it in the bag if Merc dont die in no rights circuit
Uh what's this...?
https://twitter.com/formularacers_/status/1462450950917042179?t=pj4VDUvWID_Rs8d4PHcAXQ&s=19
🚨 | Christian Horner has been summoned to the stewards for an alleged breach of Article 12.2.1 f) and 12.2.1 k) of the FIA International Sporting
Code.
Erm...
916
mans
No idea
12.2.1 Any of the following offences, in addition to any
offences specifically referred to previously or subsequently,
shall be deemed to be a breach of these rules:
12.2.1.f Any words, deeds or writings that have caused
moral injury or loss to the FIA, its bodies, its members or its
executive officers, and more generally on the interest of
motor sport and on the values defended by the FIA.
12.2.1.k Any Misconduct towards:
• licence-holders,
• officials,
• officers or member of the staff of the FIA,
• members of the staff of the Organiser or promoter,
• members of the staff of the Competitors,
• doping control officials or any other person
involved in a doping control carried out in
accordance with Appendix A.
i want to see said misconduct lmao
I still have no idea as I read these
I think it's this one
https://twitter.com/formularacers_/status/1462452681243512842?t=IudxFaq4cTUYDU7QfHed5w&s=19
In a nutshell, Horner it seems has been summoned for his comments regarding the FIA's penalisation of Verstappen earlier today.
931
Most likely
damn redbull feeding those fines to the fia or what lmao
He escaped a penalty bc he offered to do the steward programme next year
Not that I think he'll go
Can’t read what it says, too blurry pic
Pewgot's got their lineup set for probably the next few years idk
Alpine's programme is still under construction,it's the most likely for him to end up there
yeah






