Traffic in Feats

[distant sluice]

Can we get ghosted traffic and players for the feats?

[humble dragon]

I wish

[stray wigeon]

well you won't like this then.. Statement from December 2023

[drifting edge]

This image causes me deep pain

[fallen summit]

they might've experienced what it's like firsthand after that, they could still change their mind.

[marsh torrent]

They'd better pull their heads out their asses soon then, because this is genuinely one of the most annoying things about this game

[distant sluice]

It’s so frustrating trying to get a good run in the slaloms and there’s so many NPCs next the flag

[worthy acorn]

It wil never come, the comunity is asking this since the crew 2
Because of the unfairness in summits

[wooden rover]

Fair play but then RNG screws it over

[royal raft]

Unfairness you say... man there is more things that make it "unfair" while all it is about skill issue in the end.

[worthy acorn]

A car after a turn you can't evade thats not there in the next run or for someone else is just unfair

[marsh torrent]

We don't even have to go that deep.

If everyone gets different, uncontrollable conditions per run, that is, by definition, unfair. Sorry to say, anyone who says this is about skill is not only wrong, but also inherently doesn't understand what fairness means.

[royal raft]

And you say this happens to you every single run? True one time i had traffic making wierd turn in slalom, but that was probably somewhere during season 1. Other than that i dont remember traffic doing wierd stuff while playing summit feats. It probably take me max 5 try to get well enought points to stay in top 3k, so i am not that good player as those on top 😉

[marsh torrent]

It definitely still happens my dude.

[worthy acorn]

No it doesn't, i also have no problems getting good positions in summits etc
But it is just beyond annoying
And still unfair for the people where it does matter, skill or not

[marsh torrent]

And I can assure you, the players on top don't get their scores because they can dodge traffic. They get where they are because those runs of theirs happen to be clear of traffic.

[worthy acorn]

And probably the 1 millionth try

[royal raft]

Sure it also dont have anything to do with vehicles, skill etc. Its all about clear road... sure...

Well, i am probably lucky not to have this problems with traffic as you do. So i should probably learn all those thing people do to be top 1 which is not need to stay in platinum 👍😑👍

[rigid solar]

you're missing the point though, if there was traffic for everybody and it was a set spawn every single retry for everybody, okay, that would be more fair, but it just isn't, the traffic being completely random does make it inherently unfair, and while this doesn't make completing the feats impossible, it adds unnecessary frustration when it just isnt needed imo

[marsh torrent]

It's the summit. It's a competition. There shouldn't be any randomness in it. That's it.

[wooden rover]

"realism and immersion", more like wasting time of the players (in a bad way)

[obtuse quartz]

As stated above, this unfortunately wont happen. The Dumbfucks at IVT´s leadership have it too far up their asses to acknowledge traffic in summits was a mistake and refuse to fix it

Its been like this for a year, and they clearly dont care

[obtuse quartz]

they would have done it by now if they gave a shit

[fallen summit]

at the glacial pace they end up changing things, you might be surprised.

[stray wigeon]

😳🤔

I would be so grateful if they ever did that, 😭

[wooden rover]

You can tell by how long they've took / they're taking to add great needed features that were already in tc2 (i.e. parts set swap between 2 cars, legendary set symbol displayed on car card when scrolling garage collection, more efficient parts scrapping, ...)

I fear that they're gonna wait even longer with big features like race creator, it should not wait for last year/months of TCM active development, too late

[stray wigeon]

honestly, race creator is something I would want them to add at the end of the games life cycle.

[fallen summit]

yeah, I have no doubt race creator will be kept in the back pocket until the game's twilight years just like it was for TC2. unfortunate but I guess gives them time to think about how it could feasibly improved in this iteration of the game. you also have to consider that there will be plenty of changes to the map and they don't want existing routes to suddenly be blocked or not work like they did cause they changed the map in such and such place. given the major map changes TC2 had in its later updates, I'd say that would be a real concern.

[wooden rover]

How big were the map changes in tc2?

[marsh torrent]

It's rather impossible to fix custom tracks if they added anything that blocks the routes, that's the issue.

[wooden rover]

Impossible? Just have the game tell the creator: "game map has been changed, and one (or more) of your track(s) may be affected"

It's not a negligible issue, but also not something that is impossible to overcome

[marsh torrent]

I feel like that's going to be a little bit of a hassle in practice.

[wooden rover]

anyway lets stay on topic