#Protection Warrior Improvements

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worn drift
worldly lotus
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first of all

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your build is wrong for King Saladbar

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you have no Sudden Death

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you want the ST build from wowhead for it

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on fights like saladbar and add fights including Soul Hunters, you can do a lot with Heavy Handed + SD

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youre also not pressing TB enough

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SS and TB should be roughly the same damage

worn drift
worldly lotus
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your APM (actions per minute) are very low

worn drift
worldly lotus
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saladbar logs are screwed, do you have any other fights? saladbar logs are split on platform phases and sometimes the entire phase is just non-existant if the logger is on the opposite platform

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youre not pressing them fast enough

worn drift
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I try to post you another radi fight. what about the M+ ?

worldly lotus
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damage in keys is not a useful metric

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but im looking at it, hold on

worn drift
worldly lotus
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ok so:

  • Outburst was used on TC 11 times, prio SS in ST and TB in AOE (2+ targets). Try your best to not use Outburst on normal TC, unless youre at a 8+ targets.
  • youre mashing IP way too much, never spam IP, only use it at 70+ rage.
  • TB apm is low, it should be double what you have.
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your block is super low, might explain why youre IPing so much as a result

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hover over the circled hits with your mouse to see what we look for when it comes to block uptime, this is called "effective blocking" and it should be as close to 100% as possible

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this is mine on a similar key (DB, but slightly higher in key level)

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as a comparison

worldly lotus
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SS + TB are prio over everything

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your SS APM looks a lot better on this log for sure

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but TB is still behind

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oh

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you dont have 4pc

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thats gonna hold you back A LOT

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and might explain the APM

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4pc is HUGE for us

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as thane

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once again youre missing the wowhead raid build

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and lacking Sudden Death

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so im gonna summarize it:

  • Get 4pc ASAP
  • Talent into raid builds in raid, use Sudden Death
  • Hit TB every single time its up, except...
  • except in pure ST fights when you have Outburst up you send it on SS
  • in anything other than pure ST you prio TB for outburst, make sure youre tracking outburst for all content.
  • and finally, hit your stuff faster, APM is super high for prot warrior so make sure you adjust, especially in lust or high haste phases
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take care of all of that, try again and hit me up with a log after and we can check what you can adjust once those are taken care of

worn drift
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Very interesting. Looks like I am running in to a wall here because:

  • I follow the rule lately to IP only at 70+ rage, still sometimes i find myself taking too much damage.
  • I tried to wait for TB or SS to be up when i have Outburst but i end up not having it or just riskying to wait too much time to line them up
  • I struggle to follow the procs, there A LOT. I am using weak auras to try help me out but most of the fight i spend 80% of the time staring at the WA trackers, rage bar, IP bar, Shield block timer etc... and cannot focus on fight.
  • Yeah i have the 4pcs problem. I hope next week to be able to convert 1 piece in to a gear set piece.

I think the major issue I have when fighting is understanding how not to focus only on the abilities... I come from FFXIV an there the rotation are straigh forward. You have to press things in order instead of pressing them by random priority procs so yeah...

For the APM i have no idea why. i literally spam the abilities .-. I will try harder i guess

worldly lotus
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whats your ping in general

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or on average

worn drift
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40/50 i think But sometimes i feel like the game lags cause i press the abilities twice

worldly lotus
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I follow the rule lately to IP only at 70+ rage, still sometimes i find myself taking too much damage.

That's because youre not blocking as you should

worn drift
worldly lotus
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the default value is 400

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and it can hold us back

worldly lotus
worn drift
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Super, i will try it thanks a lot

worldly lotus
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keeping SB up and making sure youre facing mobs is by far the most important thing you can do as a prot warrior in terms of survival

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over anything

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thats literally our gimmick as tanks

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IP is just there to burn rage and smooth out damage intake

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it is much less important than blocking

worn drift
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So it is ok to find myself with no IP up but only shield block sometimes ?

worldly lotus
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that shouldn't happen with proper gameplay but sure

worn drift
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Cause i feel like if i have NO IP up im dead

worldly lotus
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in general

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cause there are often cases where stuff just isnt blockable

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but you shouldn't worry too much about them since you should have SB up anyway cause it buffs Shield Slam damage

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and defensives are important for those

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IP will not save you

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it is to be used alongside something else

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most of the time with SB, and sometimes (like with tank busters) you just send Walls/Demo/SR/Punish/TB (keep your feet on the ground) as DR

worn drift
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Thank you a lot, I will try to improve all of this things and hopefully I will come back with some improvements.

worldly lotus
worn drift
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I did the followings:

  • Tried to always prioritize VO on SS
  • Always cast as many TB I can by alternatin SS with TB
  • Always use on CD Demo and Avatar and also keeping on CD the SC.

Used IP as a rage spender to not overcap and Revenge to fish for SS resets.

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Ah and also tried to keep the Trinked in Sword mode and alternated between the Battle stance and Def Stance when I could.

worldly lotus
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your Sudden Death casts are a little low.

your TB casts are still way too low, make sure youre tracking tier procs somehow.

You still outbursted thunderclaps and thunderblasts which you shouldn't do. Not many but they shouldn't happen - only 3 targets are tracked in logs: Dimensius, Pargoth and Astoshion. You also outbursted TB on the damage amp phase (p3) which you shouldn't do because its only ever one target in that phase.

you are revenging too much as well, hopefully it was due to being unlucky with SS resets, but they shouldn't happen - you have double the APM than other high ranking logs

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outburst only SS in that fight

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cast less revenges

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and make sure youre pressing TB when a tier reset occurs

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kill times also matter in logs, a lot

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the shorter the kill time, the better everyone's dps will be

worn drift
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Yeah still need the 4 pcs set for the set so.. i hope this week to be able to get a good piece. In the amp phase was hard to align the Outburst with SS since everything was very FAST with BL 😂
But thanks for the advice, I am trying to get better, I can already see some improvements in M+, it is starting to click a little bit more now.

Hope for next week to come with some 90+ parses on the Omega Raid 😄

shrewd bane
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Sudden death sometimes doesn't proc so I wouldn't worry about it unless you are missing casts.