pvp

[hasty crane]

[sage raptor]

Booger eater race

[raw summit]

nom nom

[fickle burrow]

What's the General strategy ya'll go for this season. Zug zug healers and keep dps cc'd or do you go for the dpsers. (Obviously simplified game strategy)

[raw summit]

reduce enemy health to 0 while keeping own above that number

[spice hornet]

I told everyone mud rerolled rouge the other week

[raw summit]

you were right

rouge too good

[fickle forge]

rouge

[eager oracle]

Fury warrior is expected to be the go-to next season as well correct? I like my DK but I’ve found that all the people on my tag list are ret pallys and I’m tryna get out of lfg

[raw summit]

depends on tuning

[wheat crane]

Are they even going to do one last round of tunning? Feel like its all hands on deck for DF

[raw summit]

[wheat crane]

Actually maybe theyll let the head pvp developer aka one intern actually do whatever he wants since its all getting wiped clean

[eager oracle]

I assumed no tuning if nothing has been announced by now

[versed river]

SL is giga frustrating, i just wanna play warri in pvp but cba/time to farm the leggys, covenants etc 😣 fresh 60

[raw summit]

what you can do it fill your honor cap for s4

and then start with s4 honor gear

[wheat crane]

Only real shit thing so far is the unity leggo being gated behind revered rep

And no real great way to catchup ive seen so far

[nimble jasper]

i mean rn is fine

just honor to upgrade is excessive

[shut plover]

Even honor is decently farmable with solo shuffle now, can even spec tank for insta q’s (although i rather just queue and go watch some tv)

[lucid walrus]

tank

[raw summit]

get out

[wheat crane]

Are solo shuffle and comp stomp permanent now?

[raw summit]

stomp gone tmr

[wheat crane]

Lame comp stomps legit the only way to get honor on my like s1-s2 geared alts lol

[lucid walrus]

stomp already gone on NA

xp buff makes it tempting to alt dk lel

[wheat crane]

F

Yea wait 50% xp buff? Mske like 5 more warriors

Saw someone on reddit that has 9 mistweaver monks and plays all 9

It was just like...why dude?

[lucid walrus]

eesh

[nimble jasper]

crusader jr

[raw summit]

i was gna deadge u

but yknow

[nimble jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-crusader3455-wow-spazz-out-beast-mode-gif-25970151

[elfin surge]

I'm making tsg work 😎

[full quiver]

Mud awc when

[spice hornet]

when he gets more practice on his rouge he already said on stream hes playing rmx next AWC

[elfin surge]

Mud comps arent awc viable

[full quiver]

There was a tsg team

[elfin surge]

BIS fury enchant

[elfin surge]

i heard

been qing it a lot on ladder

[full quiver]

Yeah I use that sometimes on DH

It's got good uptime makes a big diff

Prob why all the top enh use it

[obsidian loom]

Use on offhand?

[wheat jay]

Leather pvp armor

Probably combatant

[viscid bluff]

Nice dragon helm

[wheat jay]

Ye combatant, cuz there's 5 colors

[nimble jasper]

[wheat jay]

Lmao yes

New narrator for bm fury and dh

[nimble jasper]

fury is like

dh but worse

even more idiotproof

[obsidian loom]

[wheat jay]

Yep

Wait for survi, two button spec incoming lets gooooo

Kill command andmongoose bite

Nothing else

Gaming

[nimble jasper]

waiting for the survis

that let me kill their pet twice

[wheat jay]

Hmmm no

There's 90% wall for pet now

30s cd 8s duration

Get fukd

[obsidian loom]

Untargetable in arena

[wheat jay]

Yep

Oh no pet at 10%

Misdirection

Mend

Pet healthy

Ez

[nimble jasper]

this is assuming

you q into hunters

with more than 1 braincell

[wheat jay]

Ye, Hunter talents are giga dogshit

Oh you meant that

Lmao

[nimble jasper]

dw warlocks can instant cast rez their pet

cuz they need that!

[wheat jay]

Yep lmao

Ngl i look forward to playing warr

Not looking forward to playing survi

Just from talents

[nimble jasper]

war fine

as long as its arms

not fury

[wheat jay]

Yep

Fuck fury

Fury is good for occassional m+ that's all

[wary heart]

is it true we're not getting class-specific pvp sets?

blizzard really doesnt give a shit

[sharp meteor]

We do not know.

[nimble jasper]

imagine not having sets from legion and prior

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, cruel elite until the end of time.

[nimble jasper]

i use dreadnaught

[wheat jay]

Antorus Elite set

Done

Nothing even comes close

Most warrioresque set in the game

[nimble jasper]

block shoes

looking ass

[wary heart]

legion s1/2 elite warr pvp is vibing for DF

[nimble jasper]

s1 set sucked

major donkey balls

[wary heart]

must hurt to have such bad opinions

[nimble jasper]

🙂

must hurt strugglebussing at 15 hundo

[wary heart]

not sure who that's aimed at but ok

[nimble jasper]

you

[lean burrow]

does "pvp armor" mean honor pieces or conquest pieces?

[nimble jasper]

considering you die to sepsis

of all things

[lean burrow]

why is there different armor-type transmong

[sharp meteor]

I like the bulkiness and little heat lines that come off the shoulders.

[lean burrow]

are we getting class-specific + armor-type specific transmog in DF?

[nimble jasper]

raid tier looks class specific

[sharp meteor]

Just a matter of if they do tier appearances from pvp

have to wait n seeee

[nimble jasper]

or just use old sets

cuz better anyway

[lean burrow]

50% xp buff btw, feelsgood to be rewarded for neglecting leveling alts

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I always say to wait for the buff then wrap up everything at once.

[sharp meteor]

Ye

[nimble jasper]

dreadnaught to flex on the peasants

tbh

[lucid walrus]

so close to full dread

got literally everything but boots

[nimble jasper]

got all but bracers

[wheat jay]

99% its honor

Since there are 5 colors

There are only 4 leather classes

So they are most likely either for this season only, and these are combatant, open world, quests tints, or combatant sets for each season

[lean burrow]

Is combatant just how aspirant pieces used to be named as?

[sharp meteor]

something like that

[lucid walrus]

basically

[sharp meteor]

that'd be cool

class sets for pve and generic 4 armor things for pvp would be shambly

the class sets look pretty great for the most part so i hope pvp has a nice edgy tint

[wheat jay]

i like pvp weapons the most

[agile sonnet]

What would be the best warrior spec/cov when playing thunder? (Ele/War)

[sharp meteor]

Definitely spear.

Probably Fury?

[steep inlet]

https://gyazo.com/de7475fd380288f3149d91f50185b2b0

DF alpha

[raw summit]

no tree so doesnt matter

[lucid walrus]

shaman tree looks really well designed

[warped warren]

stacked

[earnest oasis]

has anyone seen the shaman talents? theyre absolutely disgusting hopefully warrior gets some love

[elder wigeon]

just a bit of unpruning

and fair to shamans, kind of not very good all expac, aside of enhance

been meta every season so far

[simple rock]

this talent is so sick

[near delta]

That's insane for kiting jeez

[sage raptor]

Oh boy lol

[fickle forge]

Sure

[elder wigeon]

it's alright

ele shamans are insane at killing demo pets

you just run the demo down while his pet is getting hammered all game

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[earnest oasis]

If you aint playin with a ret you're doing it wrong

[sharp meteor]

Turbo is a good time.

Hard to go wrong with retwarr, though.

In the end it's always retwarr.

[simple rock]

warrs that play with ret for an entire expansion 😴

[sharp meteor]

Me except shaman.

[nimble jasper]

ret warr players wiping the drool off their chin

as they intervene air for the 5th time in one game

[full quiver]

Wish I had a ret to do that with

[lucid walrus]

well hello there

[sharp meteor]

20 yard bleed that might be fun for pulling mages/hunters out

or rogues sike step stunned insta anyways

[lucid walrus]

45sec cd

sidearm looks like a blast but i worry about it breaking cc

[indigo barn]

Just play zugzug cleave no problem

[mighty fractal]

Ermmm

Concussive blows looks dope too

Although more than 3 sec would be ideal if not OP

[hexed ermine]

whats the best 1v1 dueling setup for warrior? Arms vs Fury? Necro covenant im guessing? any particular talents?

[sharp meteor]

Probably something like Impending as Necro Fury but realistically just don't duel.

In unranked bgs or wpvp I'll just conq/reck and kill like three people no issue.

[spice hornet]

Dueling as a warrior

[sharp meteor]

Dueling in general 🤠

[elfin surge]

peasant

[raw summit]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-crusader3455-wow-spazz-out-beast-mode-gif-25970151

hes like a toxic slinky

thats how he gets all the sexy vixens or whatever he says all the time

[full kiln]

haha wtf is this

[lucid walrus]

he doesn't know

[raw summit]

lacking critical information

[raw summit]

mies is my favourite thing about hpal

[proven maple]

It’s how I envision all hpals play the game

[mortal elm]

guys, if i wanna buy replica grand marshal set

do i need to become 1800 rating on my warrior?

or any toon counts

oh damn

thanks

[lucid walrus]

why are we mail wearers now

gloves, legs and belt cool @ least

[mortal elm]

This set is fucking sick dude

Thought SOD and CN tmog was good

Those are damn killing

[fluid surge]

How big is the dps upg from m+15 conduints vs 2400 conduints? Much or not much gain?

[raw summit]

I cant give you a flat number

But damage go vrrr

[wheat jay]

Looks fucking great

Jizzed hard

[fluid surge]

Was thinking if its worth 2 push from 2100 to 2400 or not worth the time 😆

[elder wigeon]

I hate the belt and helmet

[wheat jay]

Belt i agree

But helmet i love

Especially the fire horn thingies at the back

[elder wigeon]

Those are great I just don’t care for the face plate

Overall it’s an 8/10 for me if it was a European style face plate and the belt looked like it was made of dragon bone or was a belt with chain mail it’d be 10/10 legendary status

[lucid walrus]

belt owns, i just want the gloves & legs

except unfortunately i'm betting the belt crops tabards so L

[spice hornet]

Yeah to me the faceplate doesn’t really match and it reminds me a lot of the mogs from SoD/korthia

[elder wigeon]

More so reminds me of the dungeon sets from mop

[wheat jay]

It will fit weapons nicely

I wonder if these are combatant only

Since there are 5 colors

[sharp meteor]

Hope it's different stages of crafted gear or something.

[wheat jay]

Nah cuz its pvp

More likely just combatant

[sharp meteor]

Crafted pvp gear. Or various stages of combatant gear, yeah, but the colors has me thinking it's crafted or something.

Usually the honor/combant stuff looks like of pleb.

I just hope it's not conq sets instead of tier

[elder wigeon]

They should do it like mop where last seasons conq gear becomes the honor gear

[wheat jay]

Nah

Wack

I want Elite recolors of pve sets

[elder wigeon]

Who wants to look like a tin can bro

[wheat jay]

Me

Id be down for pvp conq sets

But

These sets dont look like glad sets

[spice hornet]

Did you see they datamined the PvP gear progression? 12 upgrade levels on the epic quality pvp gear, you buy it with dragon points which are the same as conquest points but you use honor upgrading again

[elder wigeon]

Conq = gladiator gear

[wheat jay]

Ye, but its one set and 5 colors

If it goes the way you want with those sets

[sharp meteor]

I think that preserves the progression like visually and is neat

[wheat jay]

Then we'd have one set

Just diff colors, for whole expansion

[sharp meteor]

like back in wrath u would see somebody in full current set

or a guy in last seasons gear

[elder wigeon]

That’s how it worked forever

[sharp meteor]

honestly the wrath model was sick lmao they built upon the same set all expansion

so by wrathful you have this jacked spiky set

[elder wigeon]

Yeah that’s cool

[sharp meteor]

i really hope they do another remaster tier like with tomb of sargeras

[wheat jay]

And it sucked

[elder wigeon]

no

[sharp meteor]

and bring back HD wrathful or something

[wheat jay]

Iirc it only worked like this in wotlk

For three seasons

Then sets were different

Similar but different

Other than that it was fully different sets

And that Dragonflight plate set is literally one set with 5 diff colors

So if it went same route we'd have one set for whole expansion

[elder wigeon]

I think the pvp gearing in mop was the best using last season's gear as the honor gear

[wheat jay]

Subjective

[elder wigeon]

no upgrading no bullshit

everything had sockets already

[wheat jay]

Ok so same as what we're getting in df

[elder wigeon]

I don't want a recolor of the same set for 4 seasons

[warped warren]

[wheat jay]

That's most likely combatant set

[elder wigeon]

the whole combatant thing is lame

[wheat jay]

Nah

It adds flavour

The more sets the better

[elder wigeon]

it's an arbitrary distinction for honor gear

I wish the elite recolor was harder to get, like locked behind 2400

[wheat jay]

They won't do that

And pvp would lose even more players

Its already dead game mode

[elder wigeon]

it's not about whether they will or wont, it's about what I wish would happen

[wheat jay]

That only tryhards play

You can wish, sure, but be realistic lol

[elder wigeon]

there is zero point to play after 2400 honestly

[wheat jay]

Indeed

Well

[elder wigeon]

that's really bad

[wheat jay]

There is, r1

[elder wigeon]

lol

which is always 1000 pts higher

[wheat jay]

That's for tryhards

[elder wigeon]

it's not even for tryhards

[wheat jay]

It is

You may not see it that way cuz you're a tryhard yourself, but pvp above 1800 is already a tryhard territory

[elder wigeon]

I wouldn't call someone a tryhard doing a competitive activity

[wheat jay]

For majority of players

[elder wigeon]

I'd call someone a tryhard trying to compete in an uncompetitive mode

IE sweating in a random bg

[wheat jay]

Doesnt change the fact that majority of players consider 1800+ a tryhard sweaty gamer territory

[elder wigeon]

It’s literally a competitive game mode with a rank

[wheat jay]

Yes

Im not saying its something different, im just saying how most of the people see it

[elder wigeon]

Why would anyone even think to complain about someone trying to win

Well they’re wrong

[wheat jay]

Cuz you're putting a lot of effort into it

Thus you're trying hard to win

[elder wigeon]

That’s the point lol

[wheat jay]

Thus you're tryharding

I know

[elder wigeon]

No

[wheat jay]

But still, that's why its 1800 and not 2400 to get armor

[stuck karma]

Nah

[elder wigeon]

Calling someone a try hard is cope

[wheat jay]

Pvp would be dead if it was higher

At this point

Since most of pvp players play only for certain reward

[elder wigeon]

It wasn’t dead in the old expansions

[wheat jay]

And if the reward is too high for them, they just disregard it

Times change

So do players

[stuck karma]

Mmo is slowly dying, sadly.

[elder wigeon]

See that’s the problem blizzard just hands rewards out like candy to get people to play but that’s how you get people who’d normally play outside of the rewards to give up when they don’t get the rewards anymore

[wheat jay]

You cant compare player from classic and tbc to current player

That's why better rewards are higher

Illussion

Tabard

And mount

And for people that want to be the best, r1 title

[elder wigeon]

there's too much of a rift between 2400 and r1

[wheat jay]

Indeed

But blizz still won't change it, because it would hit casual pvp playerbase

Imagine if a steak you eat got 10% cheaper

And after some time it gets 30% more expensive

Some people would still eat it

Others would stop and stick to chicken (pve)

[elder wigeon]

I still think gladiator and the mount should be locked behind top .5% gladiator

and bolster the rewards for elite

[wheat jay]

Could work

But they'd need something new for it

[stuck karma]

Is calibri still around?

[elder wigeon]

banned

[stuck karma]

Why?

[wheat jay]

Either that, or 2400 non-armor mount, and 0.5% armored

[elder wigeon]

don't remember

[wheat jay]

Cuz he called someone bad

And that bad person started crying, and then calling others bad

[elder wigeon]

well with dragonflight you can have the elite mount have lesser ornaments and give specific gladiator pieces on the mount customization for glad

since the glad mount is allegedly customizable

[wheat jay]

Yep

That would be a good moment to add that there

And would incentivize people to push more

Still, wouldn't bring more people to pvp

[stuck karma]

That would be great

[wheat jay]

Would only make it a bit better above 2400

Below that it would be the same

[elder wigeon]

at a certain point you gotta stop trying to get more people to join they need to work on keeping the people already playing

[wheat jay]

At this point to bring people to pvp they'd need better balance

Easier gear

No ranks, which is what theyre doing

[elder wigeon]

yup

[wheat jay]

And quickly changing classes and scaling so that boosting is either super hard or near impossible

Boosting is not an issue at high mmr

But low mmr it fucks people hard

Getting fully geared Snupy at 1600 is not okay lol

Or ban competitive arena boosting fully

Since it affects the ladder too much

And makes the game less fun for newer/less skilled players

[elder wigeon]

Yeah I think boosting affects the player experience too much in pvp

most specifically pvp, in pve it's not really a problem

[wheat jay]

Pve its not as bad

You get some gear

Done

You don't influence other people's experience in any way

[elder wigeon]

yup

[wheat jay]

I remember playing in s2 against snupy at like 1800

Zero xp me

Zero xp healer

Vs fully geared snupy

That's not fine

Now i dont care since i can somehow manage against even r1s

But for newbies that's a terrible experience and one that makes them want to stop playing

[near delta]

Getting shit on by fully geared pikaboo having played pvp for a couple weeks just trying to hit 1800 for the first time back in s1 was fun lol

[earnest oasis]

Hopefully they bring back slaughterhouse for dragonflight the self healing looks ridiculous

[sharp meteor]

I imagine it'll stay around. They aren't touching honor talents until 10.5 or something.

It's just uptime with no haste or tier could be super awful.

[earnest oasis]

Well if thats the case then I hope they just buff mortal strike healing reduction to 40% instead of 25 and arms becomes meta again

[sharp meteor]

That'd be a bit much.

[earnest oasis]

I don't think so fury has it now and its not even in the meta

Look at the awc 1 fury warrior played and he lost

[elder wigeon]

I think mortal strike should be 30% personally, not a percent more

arms should have the strongest mortal wound effect in the game

[earnest oasis]

Agreed but maybe higher, just look at fury warrior now it doesnt see much play even with 40%

[elder wigeon]

fury sees lots of play on the ladder

it's very good in turbo and retwar

[earnest oasis]

awc is a better reflection of the meta imo and those comps dont see much play

[steep inlet]

AWC is it’s own meta

[wheat jay]

It does

Sharpen

[raw summit]

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[raw summit]

because ladder is all full dam SP outlaw teams

with healers the quality of brain

or whaaz rmp

[wheat jay]

Nah its double outlaw every game

[raw summit]

well sp outlaw won NA

but NA sooo

[wheat jay]

Oh right i forgot

Na garbanzo

[elder wigeon]

bruh

why does every spec have mortal wounds

don't even come at me with that sharpen cope

[near delta]

Haste should still be pretty decent at start of xpac with a new 10 levels right

[wheat jay]

Because its the best ms

You can cry allllllllll you want

But sharpen is the best

[elder wigeon]

lol

it's not a mortal wound but okay

[earnest oasis]

so you guys actually think warriors are in a good state right now?

[raw summit]

arm could be better

[wheat jay]

Arms could be better

But overall

Yes

Very good spot

[lucid walrus]

we’re not worst melee so hey

[elder wigeon]

the design is shit but its efficacy is good yeah

[near delta]

Fury is super in the meta. AWC is not a realistic environment.

[sharp meteor]

I feel like I'm a fear, mortal strike and intervene for my shaman/paladin.

[lucid walrus]

gotta wonder what the likelihood of us picking signet is next season

if only we had #dragonflight-pvp ☻

[sharp meteor]

Gonna fall of if they address pacing.

Which they won't.

[lucid walrus]

10.0 not next seas

smh

[elder wigeon]

lol

[sharp meteor]

Watch there be no balance changes and s4 is just more of the same unironically.

[lucid walrus]

probable tbh

[sharp meteor]

Oh, well. Bronze dragon looks okay.

[elder wigeon]

oh well

[near delta]

It's "experimental"

The experiment is how many subs can they keep doing shit all

[elder wigeon]

unfortunate arms is probably going to be left in its current state and won't be better likely until DF

but I'm not confident fury won't be better still in DF

[lucid walrus]

i think not having necro banner bodes well

[near delta]

Arms looks kinda broken with full ms damage during sweep amd all that

[elder wigeon]

kyrian fury fucks hard

[lucid walrus]

or if we do it sure hasn’t been found yet

[elder wigeon]

we haven't even seen a tree bro

[near delta]

People weirdly sleep on it

[elder wigeon]

or how accessable any of the talents are

you forget there's a point system we can't have everything lol

[near delta]

Ye just hypothetically it could be good

[raw summit]

@ mods

[elder wigeon]

there's no real discussion to be had yet for df pvp

no talent tree and all wild speculation

[near delta]

Yeah

[lucid walrus]

ya i’m just fuckin around

[elder wigeon]

also funny you think they'd make us a channel

[raw summit]

well shamn tree looks INSANE for pvp

like absolutely disgustingly good

[near delta]

Just flood df-general with pvp discussions lol

[elder wigeon]

this channel is insanely active considering there's no mod or sf activity here

[near delta]

It's kinda ridiculous lol

[elder wigeon]

is what it is

[near delta]

It's almost like

[raw summit]

i think the no mod thing helps

[lucid walrus]

we got walloped with the stick once

that was all

i say walloped but really we got ground zero’d

[near delta]

The channel was nearly completely unmoderated then they just randomly hit it after not doing anything for years

[raw summit]

dude yall should see #fury around mid day its absolute autism

[elder wigeon]

i mean to be honest the whole meta of like 5-6 guys yelling at everyone to post bench over and over got old quick

[raw summit]

ok but

post bench

[elder wigeon]

right

[raw summit]

i doubt we can devolve into that

[elder wigeon]

I wouldn't even try it ironically

[raw summit]

any warrior born after 1993 can’t arms… all they know is recklessness , charge they opponent, bladestorm, be enraged , eat hot chip & lie

[near delta]

That's annoying af lol

[elder wigeon]

damn I'd say 2003 but yea

[raw summit]

i dont decide what the copypasta says

[elder wigeon]

lots of legion babies

they get triggered when they're called that

[raw summit]

any warrior born after 2003 can’t arms… all they know is recklessness , charge they opponent, rampage, be enraged , eat hot chip & lie

fixed?

[elder wigeon]

zoomers

[raw summit]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepega-drive-meme-gif-16837577

vroomers

[elder wigeon]

big true

[raw summit]

im a sl frog

but im bad at pvp so it makes sense

[elder wigeon]

I'd be a SL frog if it wasn't for the 3 seasons I played in mop

[wheat jay]

Wacksune

[lucid walrus]

imagine being 30 next year lol

one foot in the grave

[elder wigeon]

I only got good at pvp in SL

[raw summit]

undead basically

[wheat jay]

Boosted by class?

[raw summit]

good at pvp arch is for the one after DF prolly

[elder wigeon]

warrior was pretty good in mop and a lot more fun

I'm an old fart in terms of esports age so it doesn't add up

[mystic barn]

whats the worst arc

post bench or resune talking about mop warrior

[elder wigeon]

the arc where you cringe post about dks

[near delta]

💯

[raw summit]

he's gonna bateman you ass

ur sittin there on the sofa

[mystic barn]

plsno

already had one bateman hard r me on league

[raw summit]

hes talking about musicmop war

[elder wigeon]

everyone who's older than 24 knows mop was the glory days plain and simple

[mystic barn]

mop was aight

[raw summit]

and then

[lucid walrus]

hey, paul phil!

thunk

[raw summit]

ello stenothermic

was steno and endo for temperature tolerance wasn't it?

[lucid walrus]

i forget what he says after killing paul allen but uh

think so

endothermic critters are reptiles and whatnot

[raw summit]

i am aware thats the 2 categories but have no clue anymore which is which

[lucid walrus]

endo requires absorption of heat

er no that’s the scientific definition i’m dumb

[raw summit]

i have made a critical error of deleting my notes from my biology final

it was in there

its like

[lucid walrus]

it means they’ve got passable ability to keep themselves warm internally

idk i’m not majoring in stem rn

[raw summit]

checks out

[raw summit]

i cant believe i passed that biology final man

well good name regardless of that

[lucid walrus]

i just have it bc of a song stuck in my head

also less goofy than inappropriate or 54

[gusty palm]

Arms good yet? No, okay thanks

[raw summit]

inappropriate had a sense of looming danger of gamerword

[lucid walrus]

it just used to be my bro’s old name on his priest lel

[raw summit]

gaming priest then

[lucid walrus]

[raw summit]

my healer is making a priest with the exp buff

📈

[elder wigeon]

I'm making a warlock with it

[raw summit]

im leveling my mage

although odds are i dont play it in pvp

still a filthy pve main

[wheat jay]

Oof

[elder wigeon]

still spanking the legion babies

every wow pro is old bro

[wheat jay]

Legion class design was just better

Expansion itself it was worse

[raw summit]

@elfin surge boomer

[wheat jay]

But class design was better

[elder wigeon]

not better than cata/mop you can miss me with that bro

[wheat jay]

Isn't kalvish 16?

[raw summit]

think so

youngen regardless

[wheat jay]

Boomer kalvish

[elder wigeon]

kalvish is the youngest by far but the overwhelming majority is around 24

[full quiver]

N

[raw summit]

oh no

[elder wigeon]

I can't believe kalvish was in diapers when mop was out

[raw summit]

[indigo barn]

[sharp meteor]

It's weird to reference something in cata or mop and somebody goes "oh shit i was like 3 then"

👴

[elder wigeon]

no lol just means ur in your mid 20's and you had a good childhood

they grew up with tiktok and fortnite

[raw summit]

my brother is younger than this game man

[wheat jay]

Cuz this is game for boomers and idiots

[raw summit]

minecraft added horses 9 years ago

[elder wigeon]

half formed prefrontal cortex from the ipad stimulation

[wheat jay]

Smart people play something chill

Like cod, apex

[elder wigeon]

lol something chill

[wheat jay]

League lol

[elder wigeon]

LEAGUE LMAO you did not just say that

[raw summit]

league is like the worst mistake you can make in life

next to meth

[wheat jay]

Not 20 yrs old game that requires you to live in it

[elder wigeon]

meth is better

[wheat jay]

Lol you jsut open, queue, play, done

Wow you gotta gear, get upgrades, dailies

[raw summit]

well you can recover from meth not nessecarily league

[wheat jay]

Etc

Just to get smacked by boosters

[sharp meteor]

🔪

[elder wigeon]

when wow pvp was good "back in the day" all you had to do was gear up bro

this upgrades and dailies shit is new shit

legion and onward

[raw summit]

dailies was tame this patch

ngl

[elder wigeon]

yup

very easy to gear this patch although the first few weeks was a brutal hellscape

having to raid to not get farmed by sin rogues with 4 set was fucked

super super fucked

[indigo barn]

Destro week 2

[raw summit]

i had 2 set fast asf then bricked for AGES

[elder wigeon]

yup that too

[lucid walrus]

i didn’t get any tier from vault/raid

[elder wigeon]

I've gotten a few pieces

[lucid walrus]

afk’d til catalyst after getting 1st week set

[elder wigeon]

I didn't get 4 set until catalyst

[raw summit]

yep

its so stupid that you have 30 charges

its good but funny

[indigo barn]

Transmog bruh

Get whole set through catalyst

[raw summit]

ok ye

i need 2 more to finish mythic set

hc i can do from m+

[warped warren]

and farm 160 champions

[indigo barn]

You win 10 games of league and your day does not change. Lose 1, and your day is ruined

[earnest oasis]

mop was great and all but i really did enjoy the start of shadowlands

[wheat jay]

How is your lfg going?

Having fun?

[warped warren]

i quit

[wheat jay]

Yep

[warped warren]

)

[wheat jay]

Farming champions > lfg

[warped warren]

xd

[raw summit]

lfg is horrific

tbf

m+ has that going for it for most stuff its fast

[wheat jay]

Lfg m+ sucks too

But its not so stressful

You dont need to sweat

To time 15 key

[raw summit]

ye you can solo most of it

we had this 23 the friendgroup did with a 250 alt in it cuz why not

dam check irrelevant

[raw summit]

well you shouldnt have to sweat for a game at 1800 mmr but pugs are smth else

[wheat jay]

Well, we don't

But less experienced players do

[raw summit]

that me ^

[wheat jay]

[raw summit]

i think numerically i have more arenas than keys but time wise its different

[mystic barn]

I was wrong

League is better than wow

[raw summit]

psure i dont have 3 days in arena this ssn

[raw summit]

average DK

[mystic barn]

Resolve trinkets ruined the ssn

nmp

[wheat jay]

True

New trinkets were dogshit

[indigo barn]

Needed an rmp specific trinket

[mystic barn]

rmp specific btw ?

[indigo barn]

Bomb

[full quiver]

Is that an addon

[raw summit]

Raiderio season recap

Tell u most ran key n shit

[elder wigeon]

I have 3,188 3's games played

106 hours if you assume every game is 2 minutes

[sharp meteor]

Gamer.

I think I have like 1000 3s played

[full quiver]

Are those all on war

[elder wigeon]

yea

[lucid walrus]

did they really copy the spotify unwrapped thing lmao

[sharp meteor]

Okay, yeah, 1031 across 4 warrs

I've been all emo and not queuing much

[full quiver]

Cause fury is lame

[sharp meteor]

I should play some Arms

[full quiver]

I've just made like 6 alts

And queued random shit lol

Ww the next transmog to unlock

[sharp meteor]

1800-2100 on all the alts, 1600 dk and ww but i might just get the apperances next season

psure i got all the weps

same sets next season zz

[raw summit]

I have like 400 season total

Need to step it up

[sharp meteor]

i need to add up all games and 2s im curious now

probs like 2k games or so

[raw summit]

Spam play probably helps

[lucid walrus]

i got sub-1k for sure

[sharp meteor]

i think i have 5 bis wars now

[full quiver]

Wait really LOL

[sharp meteor]

im like mud from wish

[sharp meteor]

yes

[raw summit]

With sockets n all?

[sharp meteor]

saving socket items for next seas on recent warrs

[raw summit]

Psure it says s3 item only

[sharp meteor]

unique 12 so 2 sockets

[full quiver]

Doesn't work like that I thought

[sharp meteor]

ya but they add new item

[full quiver]

Saving token?

[sharp meteor]

they might not but it's a small gamble

[full quiver]

Illegal

[sharp meteor]

ya the currency from vault not the socket item itself

[raw summit]

Worst case u spend on rando trade stuff

[full quiver]

I l l e g a l

[sharp meteor]

went to setup alli warrs and forgot i had no gold on sarg

and didn't wanna blow through my last 50k on leggos for a 6th warr

[raw summit]

How's the worgen doin

Meme dead?

[sharp meteor]

abandoned

[raw summit]

what fury nerf does to a mf

[sharp meteor]

just no gold on alli realm

otherwise might've been fun

just wrapped up panda with mastery instead of haste

[raw summit]

I have like 200k around but it's a bit cringe to spend 40/50 on a new guy

[sharp meteor]

ye i would've had to eat a cut to buy a token to move gold around or something all my stuff consolidated on one realm

[raw summit]

I have most of mine split in 2 evenly

[sharp meteor]

runnin out of good names on main realm otherwise i would've made worgo here

yeah i used to be 50/50 malg and sarg

bfa made fleets of alts actually impossible tho

also pointless because no class sets LMAO

[raw summit]

Yep

Hope df stays with class sets

For pvp

[indigo barn]

PvP based sets

Don't want early memes from lucky pve'rs

[elder wigeon]

would be nice if there was a pvp tier set and a pve one

[indigo barn]

And blizzard hates nerfing stuff for PvP only

[lucid walrus]

weapon chain kthx

[indigo barn]

Make disarm work on everything, not just weapons attacks

[full quiver]

Make disarm remove their arm

Use 2x can't melee you anymore

[raw summit]

🧠

[nimble jasper]

altho there was some fuckery iirc

like the monk pvp setbonus was good in pve during wod

[elfin surge]

https://www.twitch.tv/crossmauz/clip/TiredThirstyDiscPJSalt-rsXj4_ZD18YVOXbf

[raw summit]

Halligalli party

Man i hate being German

[hasty crane]

What's the incentive to PVP next season if there's no new appearance

It's the same gear just higher item level

[indigo barn]

Tabard, cloak, enchant, mount

If you care about those

[sharp meteor]

You can get alt appearances if you're duelist.

Example bein the DK set usable on Warriors.

Sort of like what you can do with the Paladin set this season.

[wheat crane]

Crack addiction

Except world of warcraft instead of methamphetamine

[sharp meteor]

I mean, most incentives are still there minus the elite sets.

[marble shuttle]

Question I main war buddy mains dh never played war/dh/x any tips o.o thinking might play with a hpal since it's the only healer we know xD

[spice hornet]

I believe mud plays that comp sometimes

But with a disc

I’ve tried it before and it’s tough on the healer at times, need a good healer that can handle keeping a warrior up without the assistance of an enh or ret

But mud is swapping rouge for s4/next AWC

Thst one night he played with agility Daggers on changed him

[sharp meteor]

warr c tier class buffs when

[lucid walrus]

🌲 ❓

[sharp meteor]

tree when

[simple rock]

these plate pvp mogs kinda...

[lucid walrus]

[simple rock]

just make a good recolor of the warrior set, it's badass

[wheat jay]

Bis mog

[uneven hemlock]

Aren't those just the honor sets? Conquest is usually just a tier recolor.

[elder wigeon]

not usually

well i guess if you go by recent expacs

where they're lazy

that's a legion and later thing

[lean burrow]

that DF plate set was mail

they wouldn't go cloth-leather-plate order

you will see, actual plate set will be fantastic

[steep inlet]

https://twitter.com/BigmoranIRL/status/1549822221337575424

Bigmoran (@BigmoranIRL)

Rogues are back!

Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 6:23 PM

i'm gonna fucking break something

rogue are S+++ tier

and they have now a better MS than us

[elder wigeon]

bigmoran is a bigmoron

on live

[steep inlet]

moran...

[wary harbor]

isnt that just the pve tooltip or am i bigmoron now?

[lucid walrus]

"back" they never left in 18 years

[lucid walrus]

yeah. the point is that wound poison in the pic above would be halved in pvp as well

[wary harbor]

ok me smallmoron

[elder wigeon]

man lfg is so damn dead

[lucid walrus]

it's past midnight on a weekday tbf

[warped warren]

😆

[mortal elm]

Their poison is around 20 reduction in pvp, altough even if don't have much experience rogue are already op

With SoD arms dealing with then was a bit easier? Or am i dreaming

[scarlet barn]

I love when people freak from Alpha footage

But lets be honest , when did rogues ever stop being S tier in pvp 🙃

They just alternate between S+ , S++ and S+++

[steep inlet]

yep i know

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/w4dva5/dear_blizzard_please_bring_back_race_specific/

btw

if u wanna help me with upvotes guys

https://i.gyazo.com/a4b57a6dc00262671b9d4f07b9b34e23.jpg

[wheat jay]

No, i like current ones

[raw summit]

i dont notice because im blind

[full quiver]

Yeah I remember gnome had best ones for war lol

[warped warren]

human female

best

spins

[full quiver]

Gnome spins to

But it's a flip lol

[wheat crane]

Wait evoker has a skill to make a cc 50% longer?

How the shit you supposed to survive a 9 second kidney shot

With a follow up 3-4 second stun lol

Get a healer trinket then drop 20 seconds of stuns

[hazy isle]

I wish zandalari trolls didnt use the nelf animations. I hate the spinning attack....

[warped warren]

its nothing compared to the human female 2h spin

😫

[full quiver]

Yeah that is nice too

[sharp meteor]

boosted rdruid not realizing that's just the pve number

[fickle forge]

Think the current animations are pretty lit though, but if they add more and make them race specific, I can get behind it

[sharp meteor]

i want my 2hspecial on fem orc

meme swish sucks man

[obsidian loom]

you're not

[sharp meteor]

It's a two minute cd isn't it

[fickle forge]

Indeed

[simple rock]

that won't work in pvp at launch haha

[fickle forge]

And I mean they'll prob use it on 7 sec Kidney

So 10.5 sec stun

😎 👍

[obsidian loom]

I didn't want to play my character anyway

[fickle forge]

Watch these 10.5 Kidney baits into Blind on trinket and then Vanish+swap with a new 10.5 sec Kidney

[nimble jasper]

9 sec kidneys

pov: not playing an orc

[fickle forge]

Ah yes so sry

8.4 sec Kidney*

[nimble jasper]

would be 7.2

if 9 secs baseline

but yeah

[simple rock]

pre parry but they don't press cds until 5s into your kidney

[nimble jasper]

then if the rmp is half decent

you get sheeped before go

so you cant pre parry

[fickle forge]

Surely it'd be used with 7 sec Kidney though

[simple rock]

we're talking about a real comp here

devastation sub

[sharp meteor]

Realz already said they'd probs cap ds kidney

and the cc extension thing looks like long cd

[obsidian loom]

Is realz directly responsible for the current travesty we're dealing with in arena

[nimble jasper]

you mean fury

being a literal abomination

of a spec

[wheat crane]

Still 50% duration blind/sheep/whatever

Just dead

Gonna be fun

Im in

[spice hornet]

Dragonflight will be better

[warped warren]

[sharp meteor]

Everybody focusing on evoker with rm and not something like wwdk

Where anybody who can't get out of the big sweep just dies

[wheat crane]

Oh true, dk is keeping abom limb right

[sharp meteor]

Yes. It'll lose a lot of its raw damage because no unity or conduit

but the big 2 minute go and 1 minute as either spec with ww should still be good

ww with dk or dh plus evoker should be cool

[wheat crane]

Man what a shitshow, exciting

Love bat shit broken arena

[fickle forge]

One thing's for sure, you'll wanna trinket that 12 sec Blind

Or 12 sec Poly

Or 12 sec trap

[sharp meteor]

I mean, potentially. It's a good time to trade big stuff.

[lucid walrus]

trinketing on cd

[sharp meteor]

It can the efficient trade.

[wheat jay]

Hehe

[warped warren]

or the 6s bolt

[eager oracle]

Thinking about swapping to my War from my DK because all I know are ret paladins. Is arms viable or is fury the gg ez zugzug spec that’s works so well with ret/war?

[steel rune]

Only insecure people play fury

[elder wigeon]

arms is viable but I wouldn't want to play it outside turbo or ret war

[eager oracle]

I’d only swap for a glad push next season so ideally w/e works together best for highest win rate

[elder wigeon]

arms is B tier at best outside ret war/turbo

[eager oracle]

Yeah I’d only play ret/war or id stay on my dk dealing with lfg demo locks

[elder wigeon]

i'd still play fury in ret war and turbo though

[eager oracle]

I’ll get some games on it at the end here then. I’m super comfortable as arms, haven’t done much fury, just 1800 for the set

[steel rune]

@ all the fury warrior re rollers

[eager oracle]

I play arms as my pvp main, but when unholy is good that’s my raid pve toon

It’s easier maintaining 1 vs 2

[fickle forge]

Post bench

[near delta]

Imagine not proccing reck

Couldn't be me

[wheat jay]

Where Laayne's bench?

[steel rune]

I’ll post when I have WiFi just disappears right now

[scarlet barn]

Your bench is linked to WifI

Hope you have strong connection

[paper oracle]

Careful youre gonna get the whole channel deleted again

[fickle forge]

Man dared it

[near delta]

Karg gonna get a lunk alarm installed in the channel

[raw summit]

[wheat crane]

First of all

Slamming weights and judging are for pussys

But dont you dare shame us for our water jugs and grunts

Fing heathens

[fickle forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eAj08nAFP4&ab_channel=hulsberg37

[full quiver]

PLEASE STOP POSTING WORKOIT STUFF HERE

THIS IS THE PVP CHANNEL

[fickle forge]

PvP deez lifts

😎 👍

[full quiver]

MODS

HELP

[raw summit]

LUNK ALARM IN #pvp

[wheat jay]

We used to have rogue alarm

It was called bench check

[full quiver]

😂

[indigo barn]

Raises object
Lowers object
"Arms bis"

[spice hornet]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[indigo barn]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[wheat crane]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[lucid walrus]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[warped warren]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[fickle forge]

Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once

[earnest oasis]

anyone else struggling like crazy into demo dk on ladder?

[elder wigeon]

it's hard

[spice hornet]

That comp hurts warrior reaallly bad

[sharp meteor]

Feels fine in turbo unless the warlock both knows how to port/kite and the DK knows how to spam chains and runs double grip

which means realistically it's probably bad but most of them are awful so it's chill

[lean burrow]

what's the most brain-dead, stupidly easy comp for fury to get glad with?

so that even an ape like me could get it

[lofty lily]

Any prot warrs in here actively trying to push arenas??

[obsidian loom]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/state-of-dragonflight-class-design-from-a-pvp-lens/369642

[lucid walrus]

good post

[obsidian loom]

It's like watching a trainwreck and enjoying it

[lucid walrus]

i actually hadn't considered how this is the most broad instance of unpruning yet

[obsidian loom]

I felt cc was out of control in SL

This is on another level of 'i can't play the game'

"Healers are in a similar boat as well, although not too much on the CC front. The amount of stackable damage is WAAAAY out of hand. Holy Priest at the moment can literally kill you in 1 of their own Chastices without even using PI. Just a simple Mindgames, stun, and 3x instantcast Holy Fire, get 1 or 2 of those to crit, and you just killed someone, even accounting for missing Versatility and stamina."

[hasty crane]

Had a LFG healer saying he can't heal me in arena because the games to fast for him

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge is I believe

[elfin surge]

dude?

[spice hornet]

Yes?

[lofty lily]

@elfin surge are you pushing arena as prot? Kyrianspear just answering my question

[elfin surge]

LOL

I'm the most anti tank

[lofty lily]

Hahaha!

[elfin surge]

@spice hornet see what u started

[lofty lily]

Fucking hell

[lucid walrus]

hope not

[lofty lily]

@spice hornet don’t give me shit leads

[lofty lily]

I am hahaha

[lucid walrus]

hope u feel better soon

[spice hornet]

[lofty lily]

I’ve hard capped at 1850-1887

[lofty lily]

Don’t shame me, I’m at deaths door

[elfin surge]

I hate tank players so much

@lofty lily play dps

[lofty lily]

Yeah but then where’s the challenge

[elfin surge]

playing tank in arena is for retards

cant get any easier

[lofty lily]

Who said I wasn’t retarded

[elfin surge]

we're all retarded

but

tanks are something else

[lofty lily]

Yeah

Full retard

[lucid walrus]

real specimens

[lofty lily]

Every time I shield slam I gain an extra chromosome

[full quiver]

@elfin surge do u use the wall or reprisal for pvp

[elfin surge]

Hey guys, what race is best for prot warrior pvp?

[spice hornet]

What legendary for unity?

[sharp meteor]

wat horde race

[lean burrow]

I see you guys are new, I recommend vulpera - the best race for prot warrior in pvp

ask me for any questions, and one day you might even reach my 1.4k level

[sharp meteor]

racials disabled in pvp when

[spice hornet]

Only when rogue is nerfed

Fighting rogue as a non orc

[sharp meteor]

if they nerf orc everybody goes alli

and back to square one

delete racials in ranked pls tyty

[spice hornet]

[lean burrow]

why not just

delete orcs

https://tenor.com/view/gnogon-gnogons-gnogen-crypto-think-gif-24690715

[sharp meteor]

as i said everybody just goes human/nelf/dwarf then

[lean burrow]

delete human

[sharp meteor]

horde races all suck aside from MAYBE goblin and even then just for non-orc races like priest

[lean burrow]

only vulpera will remain