pvp

[elder wigeon]

quit sayin shit

interrupt silence and pushback is not all cc lmao

that's legit just auramastery

whether or not it's busted? we'll have to see

[full quiver]

Lol

Meanwhile evoker has one cast

[lucid walrus]

warrior set

don’t think this is elite recolor but idk

that’s just on their wall

[elder wigeon]

doesn't mean it doesn't have abilities affected by silence

IE like warrior shouts

[lucid walrus]

i like how fuckoff huge the chestpiece is

[elder wigeon]

the set is cool

[full quiver]

It looks like deadspacw chest

Lol

I like it too

[indigo barn]

Actually big set

[lucid walrus]

dk might’ve won best in show

[warped warren]

link

[raw summit]

ayo wtf

glowstick

[lucid walrus]

sham & hunter also really solid imo

insane how 3d these sets are compared to even SL

[warped warren]

neat

[warped warren]

[simple rock]

can you link these?

would like to see the others

[lucid walrus]

wowhead stream. i think the rest were found beyond uh

rogue maybe?

[simple rock]

ah they're still datamining them

cool

[lucid walrus]

yessir. would toss em all here but blowing the place up w/ 10 pics seems like a dick move

[full quiver]

Anyone here had success on outlaw war?

Lol

[indigo barn]

Wtb duck glad mount

[raw summit]

[sharp meteor]

Cute.

[scarlet barn]

🦆

[mortal elm]

Sets looking soo good that i might end up pushing 1800 for multiple toons

[indigo barn]

Or just get 2100 on 4 and buy all the off pieces

[full quiver]

Haven't played war in weeks

Are we running on grabby and tyrant

Or just fearing tyrant

[sharp meteor]

pummel tyrant fear out

or just fear

if you didn't commmit cds walking away can be fine

in general though feels best to send asap to stop lock from setting up

[full quiver]

Thanks

Can we tried into slappy though

I remember dying through aegis and wall lol

[indigo barn]

Walk out of slappy -> take slappy grip -> leap out with reflect up?

Most Dks go all in early

So can run then go?

[sharp meteor]

so if you send hard on lock in opener then he can't get big tyrant

and dk usually gets slappy hand up asap so stuff gets desynced

lock farming big tyrant + slappy = death

Yep, no more ancient 15 year old drake rig. 🥰

[fickle forge]

[low cobalt]

where do u guys see the armor sets?

is that alpha in game?

ahhh damn i missed it

thx

[indigo barn]

Just wait a few hours, will have a big post on them soon

[storm bay]

with the tormented king legendary is the bladestorm proc bad?

[elder wigeon]

no

[old trail]

Yo

Why am I 1600 cr fighting people at 2.2k mmr

[sage raptor]

Because fuck you

[old trail]

wows

Just not fair my poor war in 275 gear is fighting people with more than 2 upgrades than me

Same thing happened on my dk. Was 1200 cr fighting people at 2k mmr

[storm bay]

@elder wigeon so should i ever cancel the bladestorm proc other than for execute?

[elder wigeon]

as fury prob should never cancel unless you need to crushing blow spam to keep up

or need to rampage cause rage capped

[wheat crane]

Fury bladestorm hits pretty hard no?

[elder wigeon]

yeah

[old trail]

Whats the addon everyone uses to see trinkets/defensives?

[elder wigeon]

gladiusex?

[elder wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952878684237361202/997365202980970577/unknown.png

[lean burrow]

what's the best way to set up addons in arena?

i've got gladiusex and tweaked what cds it shows near enemy and ally frames, but it's kinda hard to always track that

then I've watched Mud play arenas and he uses only omnibar for enemies, sarena for trinkets/racials, and default raid frames with bigdebuffs for allies

is it redundant to have cds on gladiusex?

[past jolt]

I use this

[old trail]

is warrior/lock a thing in 3's?

[old trail]

Was he using death's certainty lego?

[elder wigeon]

that wouldn't affect death strike's healing

[old trail]

Ah, thought it was +35 damage/healing

[elder wigeon]

Nope

just a casual 100K heal

[warped warren]

did they go through ams? or anything?

[elder wigeon]

what would that do

[warped warren]

it accounts for the healing

as if they take damage

[elder wigeon]

what're you saying?

[warped warren]

the absorbed damage from ams gets added to the dstrike healing

?

[elder wigeon]

are you saying that the damage taken to the shield counts towards the damage taken in the last 5 seconds or the heals from the AMS gets counted as death strike healing when they death strike?

[warped warren]

1st

[lean burrow]

how come dk can grip me during bladestorm, but I can also bladestorm through ring of peace?

[elder wigeon]

Yeah I mean it’s still a 95k heal

One is a knock back and the other is not

[lean burrow]

does druid's vortex pull during bladestorm?

i never checked

[elder wigeon]

Yes

[warped warren]

yes

[lean burrow]

dead-guh

[obsidian loom]

It used to be better pre nerf but locks prefer dks now bc of their buff to spell damage

[fickle forge]

Guardian Spirit though

[elder wigeon]

Yup makes it fine

Would only be a 55k heal otherwise

[fickle forge]

Must not have had MS on him

[mortal elm]

Should i farm gear

to achieve 1800 rating

if i have 79k hp

have around like 265 ilvl gear

[raw summit]

gear helps

[knotty tangle]

i just got 1800 with 266, and im not a good warrior. But it definetly gets easier with gear

[mortal elm]

ah I see

3v3s or 2v2s?

[knotty tangle]

2s..stopped at 1600 3s

[mortal elm]

its just right now in 3v3s i always get focused and its not that fun

when 2 3 ppl bursting and you cant dps and try to survive

[knotty tangle]

yeh 3s is very punishing becuase they push 1950 or 2,1 in 2s then go 3s

mostly

[mortal elm]

ye wtf like

im playing vs with 60k ppl

in 2v2s

vs 100k hp

in 3v3s

both 1400 rating

[raw summit]

2s for gear 3s for dragon

That's how it usually is

[mortal elm]

you cant get the mount

from other content?

[raw summit]

Dragon is only 3s

[knotty tangle]

yeah

only good players can play 3s to gear :p

[mortal elm]

do you think any other transmog sets

for collect before it goes

[elfin surge]

happy friday friends

[raw summit]

happy friday friends

[knotty tangle]

lads, do i hold reckles until i have banner again?

or rotate em?

[elfin surge]

you want to use them together usually but sometimes it's good to reck early if you think you can kill or bait cds to kill with banner. It situational always

[knotty tangle]

ah thanks

[full quiver]

Lol I brought my full haste gear feral into 2s last night

We went like 10-2 but all the games were super long because I did 0 dam

Accidentally queued as guardian hpal first game too LMAO

[frail badge]

i am just about 1800 on both my warrior and rogue and have full 1800 gear on warrior but not on rogue in both 2s and 3s on each class, which class should i stick with and in which bracket should i play to try and get 2.1 before season ends?

[raw summit]

outlaw is far easier if you are any good at it sadly

[frail badge]

thats the spec i play and i feel like im getting better at it but it feels like it lacks damage compared to warrior? but maybe im misunderstanding it

[full quiver]

Lol I dint think you habe to be good at it for 2.1

Just do your goes off cd

And don't die

😂

[raw summit]

outlaw wins on your opponent not getting to play the game

as long as you live their go they die eventually

[full quiver]

Watched my buddy carry a priest yesterday playing it

And it was so mindless at 2k

[lucid walrus]

i think deciding for yourself and not asking this every 2 weeks would unironically help a lot

[mortal elm]

how do you ever

stop

uh dk burst?

[full quiver]

Incap roar cyclone

[elfin surge]

@mortal elm u dont

[turbid leaf]

How to win vs demo in 2s

[near delta]

It's all about shutting down the tyrant. Fear it, interrupt it, and bolt it.

[fickle forge]

#dragonflight-pvp

🤔

[lucid walrus]

have you ever heard the tale of Kargish (Karanze) the Pinforged? it’s not a tale the Val’kyr would tell you.

[fickle forge]

It is indeed not a tale the Val'kyr would tell you

Or maybe they would, happily

[wheat crane]

What you playing on feral, necro draught?

Its a pain in the ass feral and boomie 100% use different covenants

[full quiver]

Yeah lol

Fucking hate the play style

But finding groups on feral is so easy

[wheat crane]

I kinda like it, bust out some big bleeds then just fuck off and bash cyclone something

[lean burrow]

can you taunt tyrant and hide behind pillar to peel?

is this the high level 5Head strat?

[full kiln]

haha

tyrant badass

[full quiver]

lol

call tyrant a pussy then run away

[fluid surge]

What lfg healer is best shoot for success? Guess a decent hpriest is easier to find than finding a decent rdruid?

[elfin surge]

Hpriest Rdruid Hpal

[fluid surge]

I see does pally play necro or nf?

[lucid walrus]

necro if you want games that last more than 30 seconds

[elfin surge]

Necro, night fae isnt bad if you both know how to max it. But it's just an all in playstyle.

[lucid walrus]

someone will be on the floor after 30 with an nf hpal and it’s a 50/50 on whether or not that’s you

[fluid surge]

I see! Gonna push like 1970->2100 so guess whatever of those work as long as they got some brain 🤣

[steel stirrup]

sup guys

i heard that fury is very good now is it true?

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[steel stirrup]

are they broken or smthing?

[raw summit]

no

but better than arms

[steel stirrup]

aiightt im gonna try it out

[red ridge]

As a fury, which comp is better turbo or tsg?

[sharp meteor]

Turbo but you'll kill more teams in the opener as tsg.

Turbo is better into more things.

[red ridge]

Ok cool as turbo how do we survive i feel like we get crushed by cc or out damaged by casters

[hollow elm]

Fury or arms better for bgs now?

[dark sparrow]

Have your shaman press his heals

[echo zenith]

which ring should i be getting on fury? haste vers?

[knotty tangle]

am i trash if i cant win vs dh? they just double my dmg

[spice hornet]

Anything full duelist geared is good in bfa

Bgs

[red ridge]

What rating is duelist?

[rapid shore]

2.1

[red ridge]

Wow

Ok

Im no where close...

1598 is my season high.... even tho i started 4 weeks ago after a year break.

[spice hornet]

Very good

Warrior only really fun with a personal healer in bgs but full geared fury with IV and conduit can probably sustain itself and still have a lot of fun

[sharp meteor]

I go double time warbringer if enemy team is undergeared, which they usually are 🪓

they can't hit you if they're dead

[spice hornet]

Yes I take my rage out with my main on these undergearws random bgs

[wary heart]

i need to find an lfg healer that isnt a diva

[knotty tangle]

u na or eu

i give up on dps, im going healer again xd

[wet scarab]

yea or nay

first DF tier set

[wheat crane]

eh

giant jock strap kills it for me

[wheat jay]

me like

big chonker

[sharp meteor]

Looks cool. I like chunkier, 3d sets.

[wheat jay]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1068713.jpg

they really stepped up their game with these sets

fucking BiS

[wet scarab]

the DK and warlock ones are BIS

[raw summit]

that is plastic

wtf

[wheat jay]

I love new sets

All of them

[wet scarab]

that's the DK one

it's amazing

[wheat jay]

Keep in mind there will be diff colors

And based on shadowlands

Its very possible that the white one will be pvp

[wet scarab]

the priest one is so weird

very unthematic

[wheat jay]

Nah

Expansion is based around rocks, dragons, and Animals

So them looking a bit like an owl is fine

Same with druid

[wet scarab]

it looks more demonic than owlish, I thought it was the warlock set at first

the druid one is on point

[wheat jay]

Evoker

[wet scarab]

mage is probably my least favorite

[wheat jay]

Imma get it on my hunt

Hard to design set for mage

Cuz there's priest and lock

And ele sham for fire stuff

[wet scarab]

I think they need to adjust the proportions for the warrior one a bit, the top heavy look is a bit sus, would prob look better on nelf

[wheat jay]

Or belf

Belf best model

[raw summit]

needs boots like antorus did

gigantic ones

[steel stirrup]

are these shadowlands sets or dragonflight?

[raw summit]

df

[spice hornet]

I think it’s cool

[full quiver]

I thought it looked super cool

Reminds me of an owl

Lol

[wet scarab]

the druid one does for sure, priest gave me dark demon vibes

[wooden canyon]

How is arms vs fury now for arena?

fury still lightyears ahead of arms?

[elder wigeon]

yes

arms sucks

[wooden canyon]

😦

i dont wanna play fury

[elder wigeon]

tough luck try next expac unless arms gets serious buffs in 9.3

i don't wanna play fury either but it's by far better

[wheat jay]

If fury loses charge on crashing blow its back in the f tier

Which is what happens in 10.0

[elder wigeon]

fury without reckless abandon is still better than arms

I play anger management with kyrian

the 1 minute goes are gross

[steel rune]

Arms is fine only people with low T swapped to fury

[steep inlet]

Wtf u say guys

It’s not DF sets

[elder wigeon]

lol

if that's the cope you need then use it

[wheat jay]

They are Dragonflight sets

[steel rune]

Literally started trying a week ago

[elder wigeon]

nice

[steep inlet]

Shit that suck

[wheat jay]

These are 10.0, Dragonflight sets

Nah theyre good

[steep inlet]

Comp ?

[steel rune]

Turbo

[elder wigeon]

fury is just better even with WPS

[wheat jay]

Ye but you're fury

So you're not just losing at life because you play wow

[elder wigeon]

cope harder

[wheat jay]

You're losing² becuase you play wow and Play fury

[elder wigeon]

chad pfp ☑️

[wheat jay]

Nah that's Aki Saito

Not gigachad

[elder wigeon]

anime shit?

nice

[wheat jay]

Indeed

[wet scarab]

Arms v Fury is like Roger Federer vs SpongeBob in terms of style and substance

[elder wigeon]

don't hate the player hate the game

[steel rune]

You play fury when you want to do brain dead damage and have no responsibility you play arms when you want to carry with utility

[wheat jay]

https://youtu.be/-xVnH7G5h58

[elder wigeon]

the utility is useless

[frosty delta]

I finally got a leaper legendary and queued a ctf bg as fury with barbarian, some of the most fun I've had in my life. 6 leaps you get across the map in about 30 seconds with the flag, it's awesome. First run got the speed achievement in twin peaks, lmao.

[simple rock]

shaman and warrior are badass

[wheat jay]

Theyre all badass

I like them all

[simple rock]

I like monk too

[hazy isle]

i think the new sets look really nice as well

[simple rock]

so much better than whatever 9.2 sets were 😂

[wheat jay]

Nah some s3 sets were good

Monk

Shaman

Paladin

[steel rune]

ya your right pre dueling a mage on a combust go so they get 0 trinkets is useless. Warbannering a kidney is useless.

[lucid walrus]

duel feels like shit now

[thick reef]

rly does

doesnt feel like it does much

[steel rune]

it does a ton

[lucid walrus]

it does plenty but just kinda highlights how swappable we are rn

[steel rune]

80% of teams dont even notice it and if its on cds im just ready to dip out anyways

[wheat jay]

Always been the case with duel

That skill is literally asking others to hit you

By design

[thick reef]

if they go the target u duel ye

[lucid walrus]

it’s basically a taunt if they notice it, yeah

[thick reef]

ye

[lucid walrus]

d-stance getting walloped and IP getting tapped a bit makes it feel a good chunk worse though

[steel rune]

if they swap me i just leap out im the only target he can hit for 8 seconds

[lucid walrus]

reasonable

[wheat jay]

Yep

Which in itself is huge

[elder wigeon]

I do better into RMP as fury than as arms

[fickle forge]

I mean it's also a bit cope to arms utility is useless

Arms utility is big

That's not why we play fury

[elder wigeon]

arms warrior dueled my ret, told my ret to hit the arms warrior he just died

war banner likes to not work vs RMP

I like pre bannering a blind or kidney and it doesn't work, down but full blind/kidney

bloodrage is so good into mages

[thick reef]

it rly is

fury uptime feels sooo much more smooth

and yea ur pvp talents like bloodrage make uptime and movment so much easier

lol

[fickle forge]

Doesn't relate to arms utility now does it

[wheat jay]

Highest burst class in the hit someone and they died

Who could have thought

[elder wigeon]

he tried to duel the ret dmg, and then he got hit with it

[fickle forge]

Again, not really related to utility now is it

[wheat jay]

So he dueled the guy to get ret off of his teammate or reduce dmg he takes

And succeeded

Utility did its job

[elder wigeon]

yeah it worked so well he lost

[fickle forge]

Yeah well

Still not related to the utility now is it

[wheat jay]

Did its job

Utility worked Perfectly in that situation

Healer probably didnt

[elder wigeon]

lol

it's fun crushing arms warriors I hope they see the light

[fickle forge]

There's literally no light

You complain about playing fury

You only show them darkness

[elder wigeon]

you can't have your cake and eat it too

if you play arms you're sowing the seeds of misery

[wheat jay]

If you play a spec you don't enjoy, you're kinda stupid imo

[elder wigeon]

hard to enjoy losing a lot more

pick your poison

[wheat jay]

Losing while playing sth you enjoy > winning on a two button shit spec

Also

There's that funny thing called playing better

If you play weaker spec and play well, you can win against better specs

But I guess s1 and s2 arms spoilt y'all too much

[elder wigeon]

Lol

[warped warren]

i see alot of copium here

[full quiver]

i tried fury last night

would rather quit game than play it lol

was fun for a week or two

[sharp meteor]

saw legit 2 arms warrs in weeks 1 was a panda the other was enu

dream is dead, c tier spec

[elder wigeon]

lolol

i was coping hard playing arms

[wheat crane]

I mean ive had my warrior and warlock toons since vanilla, im gonna play them

Specs change from time to time

Like not really enjoying demo but doesnt look like its going anywhere

Feels like ass to play

[warped warren]

If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world. i love #arms till my last breath..

[full quiver]

cant tell if comp stomp as alliance

or solo shuffle as tank

is better honor

[simple rock]

arms didn't feel awful when I was playing turbo

but my god was it boring in 2s

[fickle forge]

Every time you Q as tank, you ruin 4 other people's enjoyment of the game

[full quiver]

i already like queueing guardian

you don't have to sell me on it lol

also my team wins every round, hello?

[sage raptor]

Statistically, they're probably rmp players.

Most of my solo shuffle runs have had rogues and also mages

[wheat crane]

Doesnt evoker have a bunch of anti mage shit?

Deadass ill mess with it just off that, could suck but ill play it just to blast rmp lol

[sage raptor]

Anti dk stuff too

If you want to blast rmp, play unholy.

9 second CD on the absorb removal.

That's so obnoxious lol

[wheat crane]

trueeee

[full quiver]

i think the guardian druid

going in as resto affinity not healing a single time

is the one ruining hteir time lmao

[wheat crane]

is it even worth gearing up right now

new seasons in like 2 weeks right

[full quiver]

yeah

but if you don't have full duelist

then it's pretty annoying lol

[wheat crane]

im literally in duelist sinfull 226 gear lol

cant even touch anyone atm

[elfin surge]

Highest war as feral/fury confirmed best fury comp

[elder wigeon]

did you manage to not q into a single outlaw?

[simple rock]

must farm every hunter or priest team

[plucky urchin]

Can you intervene fel eruption? I'm pvp noob

[elder wigeon]

pretty sure you can, never tested that outright but fel eruption is pretty much just stormbolt

[plucky urchin]

I see, thank you.

[sharp meteor]

I thought it was chaos.

I don't think I've ever seen it intervened.

but you also can't reflect it

[elder wigeon]

the stun is physical and ranged

the damage is chaos

chaos nova isn't interveneable and a magic AOE stun

[plucky urchin]

Can HoJ be intervened? I know it can be reflected.

[elder wigeon]

Nope

[sharp meteor]

No

[dense vector]

how to counter rogues as fury? Getting melted by them

[elder wigeon]

disarm their dance, or disarm them when the rest of your team gets covered

can also stormbolt in place of disarm but is significantly less effective because duration

can also fear them in the same situations

[dense vector]

awesome will give this a try thx

[dense vector]

okay doing 2v2's without a healer is just painful as fuck

[elder wigeon]

wouldn't recommend without a feral tbh

or enhance

[fluid surge]

Default I play slaughterhouse/enduring range/battle trance. What comps do I play disarm into and what do I replace battle trance? When do you replace stormbolt/battle trance with warbringer/double time. And do you ever play bloodrage talent?

Many questions but would appreciate if someone could tell me abit more in depth than the guides tells 😅 (mainly play 2s)

[lean burrow]

disarm against rogue/surv hunt/warrior/dh/dk/mm hunt

[undone pumice]

stormbolt obly if u neef a stun

[lean burrow]

replace enduring with warbringer with double time

blood rage against frost mage

maybe against restosham since their roots are annoying

[scarlet barn]

Deswind in pvp channel

What happened

[novel sparrow]

Yo if i have like season 1 or 2 gear that gives me 25% vers should i just wear that and replace it with honor gear instead of buying the 226 greens

[lean burrow]

ZM 226 gear would be better

[scarlet barn]

Ilvl is bigger deal than having proper stats

[novel sparrow]

hp op

[raw summit]

How much hp do you have in that?

35k?

[fluid surge]

Thanks alot! Disarm vs all rogues or just sub? Bloodrage vs bm aswell? Would you recommend using aegis or bm trinket insted of insignia vs certain comps? What leggo would you recommend signet vs dm in 2s 😄

[novel sparrow]

like 40 somethin im at like 58 now, still getting one shot by 70k mages just trying to get my 10 skirms done feels lit

[steep inlet]

Interv is physical

Counter

Hoj is magic

[scarlet barn]

Overwatch used to do it

[fickle forge]

Overwatch

Still don't get why they removed it

[warped warren]

dstance

[mortal elm]

why this resto druid dealt more damage than their warlock

[fickle forge]

Why it listed as fury warr?

[mortal elm]

lol ye its sometimes bugged

[lean burrow]

everyone wants to be fury

[mortal elm]

like he kept the lock alive

and dealt more damage than him

honor level 734, maybe a booster?

[fickle forge]

Maybe feral druid?

[mortal elm]

healing done is 600k

[fickle forge]

Seems reasonable for a feral druid

So was he feral?

[raw summit]

looking em up its a duelist geared rdruird

cat affinity tho

[fickle forge]

Maybe easier if he just showed the dmg breakdown of the druid

[raw summit]

prolly all thorns

[mortal elm]

ye

top damage was swardm moonfire rake

etc

thorns is 60k

if you minus it still tons of dmg

[lucid walrus]

draught build

[mortal elm]

oh damn

my partner doesnt have a legendary

atm

[mild pier]

Yo is fury the move right now? Haven't played since season 2

[tired burrow]

Alright boys getting into my first warrior

Pvp wise am I rolling arms or fury

What’s the difference ?

[raw summit]

fury better ye

[raw summit]

fury is better

[mild pier]

AIght good deal

[raw summit]

fury does a lot more dam but has a tad less options for utility

[mild pier]

Hopefully stays that way for DF

[raw summit]

tree soon

[mild pier]

Hypedddd

[raw summit]

the leaks looked good

hope the actual thing also is

[mild pier]

Yeah that'd be nice. Was kinda get bored as arms

[raw summit]

arms has its moments

fury just zugs

[echo zenith]

do you guys use hamstring as fury?

[mild pier]

Definitely

[echo zenith]

is it necessary tho in 2s

i mean fury has so many dashes now

[raw summit]

yea but its not bad to have em slowed just in case

[sharp meteor]

looking at honor level hm

[sharp meteor]

so sometimes it's fine to let hamstring/piercing drop if it means you won't lose uptime

example being during conq/reck where you just spam crushing blow and maintain range on them

but generally you want to maintain piercing or hamstring

[echo zenith]

makes sense, will start using that now

[sharp meteor]

remember it doesn't do much damage itself but it allows you and your teammates to stick to the target

or prevents them from reaching your teammates

[mortal elm]

I really feel like a sponge as playing fury

having big damage is nice but dealing with enemy bursts was more chill with arms

[sharp meteor]

swap from sephuz/unity to signet/unity and it always disabled my unity until i take it off and put it back on hm

also imagine losing to rdruid turbo with 4 second spear as rmp

[fickle forge]

Feel like everyone was so glad fury was making an entrance prior to S3, but now they all want it to die and never come back again

[sharp meteor]

my hands hurt

missin swing timer simulator (arms)

[full kiln]

im respeccing to arms rn

doing kyrian campaign

i cant force myself to play fury anymore xd

[gusty zinc]

doin some 2s rn, 5 games in, 5 rogues

[full kiln]

arms way better vs rogues for sure

@sharp meteorduck

[full kiln]

@raw summitphil

what conducts

u use

on kyrian arms

where can i find them

[sharp meteor]

mortal combo, overpower, conq banner if necro

there aren't exactly too many options

[full kiln]

kyrian

not necro

i want to try out this spear

[sharp meteor]

mortal combo, overpower

[raw summit]

spear or fragment then innit

[warped warren]

fragment

[raw summit]

well what else

AJ?

[sharp meteor]

wym what else

[warped warren]

spear

obv

[sharp meteor]

u play birb and auto stun

[warped warren]

oof

autostun cringe

[raw summit]

man kyr arm too cursed

[sharp meteor]

shut up bunny

[raw summit]

but i understand why u dont want autophial

[sharp meteor]

no u will die to mind games like a man

[raw summit]

[sharp meteor]

Just play this every game. Alternatively swap out piercing cdr for bigger rally.

You can go kleia phial build into jungle because sickle can fuck off. Unsure as to where Pela is preferable as I generally find Mika to just be better/safer.

Actually maybe swap mortal combo and crash positions then put anima sphere into top right thing.

[full kiln]

hmm

ok

i practice until s4 then push rank 1 ez

[gusty zinc]

played like

13 games

like 10 rogues

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[lean burrow]

if Mindgames hit me and my healer heals me without dispeling first, am I gonna be damaged?

it says "healing they deal" which sounds like only my own healing would be reversed

[warped warren]

no

[lean burrow]

ty

[fickle forge]

Yeah you got it

[wheat crane]

Early shadowlands i was executing myself on druid with the conduit that auto healed at low hp vs mindgames

Awc finals on

Blizo running tsg

[near delta]

That TSG thooooo

[wheat crane]

Love to see it

[fickle forge]

TSG eh

[near delta]

lul

[wheat crane]

lmao

[pastel quartz]

Feelsbadman when this is a ability that is able to eat spell reflect

[full kiln]

wow feels like hearthstone

haha

trading spells

like playing cards

[south birch]

Lord Blizo, please slay one more

[full kiln]

<<<back to fury warrior

[spice hornet]

Spell reflect should be all spells for 1 sec

I have reflected pyroblast DoT

[near delta]

Prayer answered

[raw summit]

Kungarna completely out?

[south birch]

Warriors reigns supreme!

[raw summit]

Idk how their bracket works

[full kiln]

bro

this guys

[south birch]

Nah, lower bracket

[full kiln]

warrior and dk

position

[hollow kelp]

time to buff RMP

[full kiln]

like beasts

[simple rock]

eh, that kinda negates the precision and available counterplay to spell reflect

[scarlet barn]

Blizooo

[simple rock]

but yea some specs just eat spell reflect insta if you time it well like demo

[raw summit]

Still pretty good

Insane upset to start it

[near delta]

😮 Kalvish was right

[fickle forge]

^

[near delta]

That'd be dope

[raw summit]

Dude the prot warriors want 5 seconds all reflects for pve

[fickle forge]

Wanted to reflect the CB, guess I got the imp firebolt 😎 👍

[raw summit]

Imagine if we had that

[spice hornet]

Just isn’t fair when it eats a worthless spell from a minion or a mage that can fire blast .0001 sec before poly cast completes and sheeps you no matter what 0 counterplay

[raw summit]

It should reflect player spells

Not pets

[simple rock]

yeah but that's god tier fire mage class

the rules don't apply to them

^ yeah

seems like an oversight to let you reflect the smallest pet abilities

[south birch]

In BFA we had 3 sec all spells reflect

[raw summit]

I might be hard casting greater pyro rn but imma fireblast ur reflect off nerd

[simple rock]

but it was pvp talent right?

[south birch]

Yup

[raw summit]

Then imma bust during cast hit you with an Insta pyo

[simple rock]

i'd rather have baseline spell reflect than 3s reflect all

[south birch]

Give us both

[simple rock]

if we're making a wishlist i'd like 5 pvp talent slots for all specs

[south birch]

Haha, could be fun ^^

[simple rock]

devs are scared of giving people too many buttons though

button bloat I think he called it

[velvet grail]

Seeing so many diff answers when googling,, so il try my luck here.

Is it possible to get replica grand marshal gear now? Without having anything done in classic etc etc.

I have a 2k rbg rating achivement from 2016 on my account..but thats it.

The grand marshals claymore ( two hander ) from area 52 is the item im talking about mainly

[hollow kelp]

go to area 52 in netherstorm and see if you can buy it

you should be able to

[velvet grail]

ive tried, i dont know what char i got the 2k achiv with.. so cant be account wide "access" i guess

[hollow kelp]

yeah its not account wide

but you can see what character you got it with if you hover over the date

of the achievement

should say "earned by xyz"

[full quiver]

Gotta be on a char that can use it though iirx

Like my druid was over 2.1 in rbgs but can't get set for my war

[fickle forge]

Get 1800 in RBG and you can go buy it

[velvet grail]

Do you know if that is a addon ? Cause it doesnt work on me

[velvet grail]

Aight cool thanks! working on it now either way 😛

[hollow kelp]

hover over the 10 achievement points

[near delta]

It's all warriors beautiful

[elder wigeon]

lol

still no match for outlaw rmp

[south birch]

My lord walled very late there 🙈

[wheat crane]

Think kyrian was scarier then necro

[novel sparrow]

would it be more efficient to farm conquest on my geared mage and send boxes, or just get stomped in 226 on my warrior and buy honor gear?

[elder wigeon]

farm conquest on an alt

[novel sparrow]

play the mage to play the warrior?

fill in what i dont get with 262 boe and vibe?

[wheat crane]

I can tell you trying to gear in my 226 duelist gear is completely futile lol

[novel sparrow]

yeah ppl just have 30k more hp than me and im a warrior it doesnt seem feasible

[wheat crane]

Guys have 25k more health then me

[novel sparrow]

im just hoping to get matches with 15k diff and i can try to smurf those

yeah i guess im grinding 2's on the mage lol

[wheat crane]

Id send a few boxes see what happens

[novel sparrow]

i have no banked conq its gonna be a grind

[wheat crane]

Me 2 toons atm are lock and warrior both miserable undergeared

I might just honor cap and get all the pve shit done and just chill till s4

Its seriously impossible atm lol

[novel sparrow]

i dont mind playing my mage im like 1700 full conquest geared

double leggod in both specs i just wanna play my warrior now lol

i plan to main it in dragonflight so i wanna start putting reps in so i can rly push in s4/ new xpac

[wheat crane]

One last thing i hope for dragonflight is they dont make like a 60 ilv difference between tiers

[sage raptor]

Keep hoping

[wheat crane]

Lol

[wheat crane]

What is this abomination

3 outlaw rogues in 1 match

Great balance

[sage raptor]

Yeah I gotta say this awc is hella boring

[steep inlet]

No Blizo tsg was epic

[elder wigeon]

can't wait to play against outlaw demo now

[tawny crater]

is gavel good in arena?

[raw summit]

prolly not worth unless you have the 285 one

[tawny crater]

can i not use pvp trink if im human or is that 2008 wotlk mindset

[elder wigeon]

you can, human racial is 3 minutes and only gets you out of stuns

[lean burrow]

on human: trinket stun + eat disarm = 6 sec in cc

on orc: trinket disarm + eat stun = 3 sec in cc

[raw summit]

orc

[hasty crane]

Does everyone like the new glad mount for dragonflight?

I think they said we can customize it also

[warped warren]

yeah

looks good

[raw summit]

where bunny

[warped warren]

dead

[full kiln]

arms wars use slam?

[elder wigeon]

of course

[thick reef]

lol yea

to dump rage when Ms and overpower are on cd

[spice hornet]

@last geodeuin

[tough wind]

ok so i was playing warrior resto druid in 2s...and every single time the enemy team runs and runs and runs it pisses me off so much i just chase. Is there anything i can do to get over this impatience lol

cuz i cant friggin stand it

i hate when people play lame and i refuse to play ring around the rosie chasing people around pillars.

[sharp meteor]

Yep. Just...don't always press it just because you can.

[sharp meteor]

That's just Warrior in 2s, yeah.

[lean burrow]

druid should help you catch up

"druid omg! why you no help kill people??!"

[nimble jasper]

thats how you’re supposed to play pvp

[tawny crater]

you guys pref kyrian or necro for fury 2s

[sharp meteor]

necro fury just conq reck kill every non rogue team in opener

kyrian should be fine though it feels nice in 3s

[simple rock]

kyrian isn't as bad anymore into hunter with craven nerf

also really nice into rdruid teams

not being kyrian vs decent rdruids is suffering in 2s

[bright stream]

is TSG bad rn?

[nimble jasper]

no

[elder wigeon]

it's not amazing into the ladder but it's alright

not the best dk or warrior comp so it's kinda like why play it

[bright stream]

just playing cause the 2 other players have

synergy

[solar grail]

how do we get the 2h weapon appearance to match the 1800 set?

the weapon is still the other color but i hit 2100

hmm

[elder wigeon]

it's just duelist

[fickle forge]

Upgrade it to duelist first

[solar grail]

Ahhh thank you

So to unlock all the mog options to match the 1800 set (polearms/shields/etc) I need to upgrade them all to 2100

[fickle forge]

Yep

[full kiln]

only when full rage nothing to use to dump rage

[fickle forge]

Optimal rage dump rotation is obviously OP -> OP -> IP -> OP

[lavish ember]

Is an Outlaw only strong when they have a healer with them?

[lucid walrus]

basically

they’re durable but that’s mostly bc of how well they can tread water in between farming cds

[lavish ember]

I noticed. Double dps they don't do much but with a holy priest in their pocket they are a nightmare to take down.

[lucid walrus]

irritating creatures

that 12k dps with blade flurry crankin doe

[lavish ember]

Been trying one out. Rather disappointing experience so far

[lucid walrus]

even with a healer they kinda just feel like they exist to stonewall certain comps or generally slow the game down

[lavish ember]

Dont know what their def is cause im dying in a few second. Both feign and evasion seem to do nothing at all.

[lucid walrus]

to what?

[lavish ember]

Damage

[fickle forge]

How does one die as outlaw

[lavish ember]

I can toss up evasion and feint at the same time and still take on damage.

[fickle forge]

You can't Evasion the tyrant pal

[lavish ember]

Nah been trying out some Skirmishes and ferals still do plenty of damage.

[fickle forge]

Probably because you can't dodge bleeds already applied to you

[lavish ember]

Might be an ilvl issue too. Got 265 atm

[fickle forge]

Or you just use Evasion wrong

Not gonna dodge FF+sickle when it's already on you

[steel stirrup]

guys which covenant is best for fury in pvp?

[lavish ember]

Could be.

Cant really find any guides or anything on outlaw.

Up to date ones at least

[wheat crane]

Necro or kyrian whichever you prefer

[steel stirrup]

aii ty

[fickle forge]

Just use IV one

Shadenox updates it regularily

[nimble jasper]

trimaz has one but its in french

[full kiln]

@nimble jasper will fury be thing in 10.0

?

[spice hornet]

Hopefully not

[nimble jasper]

yeah hope not

[lavish ember]

IV?

[fickle forge]

Icy Veins

[wheat crane]

Depends how the talents shake out i guess

[wheat jay]

[nimble jasper]

ahh yes mr warlock

put me on full fear dr so you cant peel my go

thanks for the pts

[full kiln]

@nimble jasper im mage main now

[warped warren]

[nimble jasper]

didnt ask

[wheat jay]

NOOB

go for rogue

why would you go for mage over rogue?

[hazy isle]

Wonder why they still didnt show the warr talents yet

[full kiln]

cuz so many rogues

i find rmp ez

[nimble jasper]

i wonder why

ok i expect your 2.7 achieve next week

[full kiln]

i didnt make mage yet

is timewalking on?

need to level one

then i will level you with massive damage

[sharp meteor]

No, skirm week.

[wheat crane]

Rogue dealing more dmg then unholy dk aoe

Makes sense

[mortal elm]

man

have you ever got

one tabbed by double tab aimed shot?

it hit me 82k and i died

[sharp meteor]

Boom headshot

[simple rock]

I was playing low mmr 2s on my ret yesterday with warr

bopped myself on kyrian mm cds but my warr vened me

he got double 39k aimed shot

[mortal elm]

bro that was an

intense

experience

i swear

[simple rock]

yea man

life changing

[wheat crane]

Lmao

My buddy used to do that when we played ret warr in s2

[raw summit]

just parry

[wheat crane]

Intervene my ret and just flop instantly "what?"

"Did u parry?" "No" "you ate wings + avatar tf you think was gonna happen"

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about s1 where you press intervene as the ret tolls and just take like 200% of your health in a second

[simple rock]

6s vene + parry on ret warr cds

[fickle forge]

Or you were a real Chad and just pressed Duel

Press parry if they swapped you and then Intervene your mate afterwards

[wheat crane]

Or just play rmp and never lose

Except vs better rmp

[fickle forge]

RMP players stay virgins forever, because they never lose to anyone

[wheat crane]

Lmfao

[full quiver]

Do u play league?

[wheat crane]

I do not, wow and destiny2

[full quiver]

Damn would've been super funny if you were the guy dming QCP

[mortal elm]

man this pvp sometimes can be really tilting ngl

[novel sparrow]

so if im in 2's double dps do i need to be sitting defensive against almost everything at the beginning? What is the overall shift in how to think about defensive stance as arms i havent played since s1 sinful and back then we just sat in that shit cuz it was broken

but i know its hella nerfed

[lucid walrus]

you're just negative trading constantly if you're sitting def 100% of the time

[full quiver]

You don't do double dps 2s as arms unless you have a rank 1 feralnwith you

Lol

[lucid walrus]

also that

[fickle forge]

You pick Dstance, but you wanna minimize your usage of Dstance

Cause logic

[simple rock]

bounding stride every game

[raw summit]

this monkey MC dcd me and loses

🤡

[wheat jay]

I had a day where I had 3 losses to dc

One was funny

Got opened by a rogue

I didnt trade anything cuz no burst

He used mc on me

I was still like 70%

Dc

[raw summit]

my healer decided to whisper them and called them trash for losing with dc bug and that they should go back depleting +8s

[wheat jay]

Insta pop and i died

[wheat jay]

Looool nice

[raw summit]

and the guy whispers back

"am i not supposed to use my mc"

and then some bullshit about him being toxic and gg n shit

suuper cringe man

HOPPING during MC

what else do you expect

[wheat jay]

I mean that is a fair answer xD

I remember some dk saying I was ruining his life for using feign death

[raw summit]

tbf

you are

[wheat jay]

And that I should stop using it

[raw summit]

[wheat jay]

I know

Im kind of an asshole

[raw summit]

but its like fair fuckery

not the MC DC LOLW

type

[wheat jay]

Mc dc is a bug

And it should either be fixed finally or the ability should be removed

[raw summit]

it is going away in df iirc

[wheat jay]

Hopefully

Priest should get something new for cc

[raw summit]

yes but if you dont hop close to arena walls it usually doesnt DC

[wheat jay]

Tho ngl I like how its both good and bad

[wheat jay]

Nah

[raw summit]

all my dcs have been jumps into walls/runs into walls

[wheat jay]

I had DC when the guy was walking straight in the middle of maldraxxxus arena

[raw summit]

those seem rarer

[wheat jay]

They still happen tho

[raw summit]

dude my monk sweeped me trying to stop the mc

[wheat jay]

Lol

I saw swapxy using chains of ice on blizo so he wouldn't be mc'd off the dalaran platform

[raw summit]

that is fucking cool

[obsidian loom]

man AWC is such trash

every team has a rogue

[wheat jay]

Nah

[raw summit]

cdew out?

[obsidian loom]

cdew dead

[raw summit]

ok agree

[wheat jay]

Ye cdew out

[raw summit]

awc trash

[wheat jay]

Was a cool game

I dont like cdew too much

[obsidian loom]

the best was the EU final

[raw summit]

outlaw ww from em innit

[obsidian loom]

RMP whaazz vs RMD

[wheat jay]

Nah fuck finals

Losers bracket was the best

[raw summit]

oh whaazz got out of lowers

how obvious

[wheat jay]

Arms blizo blasting HUGE dmg

[obsidian loom]

yeah

[mortal elm]

whose idea was giving rogue to able to cc chain for 9 second chain

[wheat jay]

Arms > fury

[mortal elm]

after 6 sec disarm?

like

seriously

[raw summit]

goes longer if they want

[mortal elm]

who do i even focus vs mage and rogue

[obsidian loom]

goes way way longer

[obsidian loom]

your next match

[thick reef]

excited for 7 combo point kidney in df?

[mortal elm]

huh?

[obsidian loom]

they get a 7 point cap in DF with talents

[raw summit]

7 second kidney

[mortal elm]

are those

fucking devs

seriously

play pvp?

[raw summit]

dude non orcs will get so fucked

[wheat jay]

No they dont

[raw summit]

you new to this?

[mortal elm]

im just wondering right now

is it all beacuse

[wheat jay]

We have one pvp dev

[mortal elm]

im playing a human

right now

[wheat jay]

That's clueless

[mortal elm]

last season i was an orc

[raw summit]

L

[mortal elm]

this is my ally alt

[obsidian loom]

today i faced a sub/assa 2s, i got sepsis'ed then dueled into oblivion in a gcd

and bc i wasnt kyrian i just died

[thick reef]

well

you just play relentless as human no?

[raw summit]

meh

[thick reef]

into rmp surely

[raw summit]

iqd rele angle

full awc that bitch

[mortal elm]

is this even

legal

prot warr rogue

rogue hit me

150k

in only 1.5 seconds

[thick reef]

i think you just have to press some buttons

[mortal elm]

i dont remember they being that broken

last season

[thick reef]

like i dont think you should be dying in first cc from rogue

[wheat jay]

They havent been

This is the strongest rmp Has ever been

[wheat jay]

The strongest mlx Has ever been, thank god no anymore

[mortal elm]

2 second fight

i used trinket

rally and enraged regen

[wheat jay]

The strongest fury has ever been

[thick reef]

u could trinket fear

trinket storm bolt

trinket disarm

[raw summit]

all while pressing wall

[mortal elm]

trinket rally = i was dead

[thick reef]

yeah dont waste a gcd

[mortal elm]

whats point of rally while it was killing me with dots

the nf ability killed me

100k damage

[thick reef]

er and bloodthirst him then

ur also playing hpri

so idk

u should get gs

if its really that dire

[lucid walrus]

9 if they're bad

[mortal elm]

ga was up

thats the issue

every external and DR

it only happened just now, never happened before

but

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[fickle forge]

Tbf, I think BFA S4 MLX was the strongest

[spice hornet]

Hasted gpie spam omg

The ranges Insta root from destro not even needing immo on the target

Ranged

Cancer