pvp

[full kiln]

feral druid

with 101k hp

doing 1v5 in zm

cant drop him below 70% hp on full cds wtf

look

literally fighting 3-4 pe ople at once

man is like raid boss

[fickle forge]

Conjoke is awful at the game though

Just kill him

[full kiln]

ah

figured it out

[fickle forge]

He Qs for a skirm and then tries to conjoke a group when it pops

Kill no one? Take the Q and pop out

[full kiln]

bro i know he was bad i trinketed war stomp reflected his clone

killed his rog ue friend

cuz he ganks with rogue

but

5 people cant kill this guy

so tank y

had to search him on armory

this legendary is broken

and he is 1.5 player

xd

[carmine flicker]

what addon is that simple rage and hp bar you use?

[full kiln]

its default?

[carmine flicker]

hmm how can you move that to the mid screen?

[full kiln]

its default position too

[carmine flicker]

thx

[raw summit]

world pvpers

🚮

[obsidian loom]

Where's the warrior wishlist on wowhead

I want triple leap, warbringer baseline, and a 10 second cc immunity

[lucid walrus]

rally = aoe lay on hands

[obsidian loom]

[lucid walrus]

charge stun (non-DR because infernal is like that i fucking hate warlocks fuck you)

my genuine list probably has throwdown, skull banner and some kinda sustain on there

[obsidian loom]

I legit would love not just a cc break like berserk pvp talents but a cc immunity over time

Call it juggernaut or something

[tired portal]

dispel on shield slam

[obsidian loom]

My shield macro

[tired portal]

gag order

[obsidian loom]

Warlocks would be screeching

[tired portal]

theres so much they can do

[obsidian loom]

The thing I've noticed warriors don't do as compared to most other mains is loudly and actively carry on like rogue and lock mains do

Mages too

If frost mage is bad there's protests

[full quiver]

Remember when blizzard nerfed dstance

When it should've been buffed

[wheat crane]

Is that why i have to grind a 2nd damn weapon

[knotty tangle]

is warrior looking strong for 10.0?

[raw summit]

no tree yet my man

[knotty tangle]

whut, but there are for rogues and hunters?

[elfin surge]

warrior F tier

as always

[knotty tangle]

kekw

[raw summit]

for dk and druid aswell

priest too

[wheat crane]

Is the dk out? Id eventually like to go back to rot dk just throwing diseases around i hate this pet focused shit

Like mop/wod unholy i think it was

[knotty tangle]

if you are low gear, is impending victory worth at all?

[stuck karma]

They are removing charge for warriors, cuz mage discord are saying we have unhealable dmg. Its unfair for them

[lucid walrus]

dk has its tree, yeah

https://www.wowhead.com/news/frost-dk-first-impression-of-the-new-death-knight-talent-trees-in-dragonflight-327617

[wheat crane]

My buddy runs it because he doesnt trust me to WoG him when im on my ret

Dont blame him

[lucid walrus]

too lazy to find the full but they do get abom limb iirc

[knotty tangle]

ima start running it

[lucid walrus]

they got some cool QoL but it’s nothing compared to rogue

good lord please tune it

[wheat crane]

Remember when rogue "sucked" early sl

Was a great time

[knotty tangle]

early sl, when they could 1 shot you?

or mid sl when they could one shot you?

[lucid walrus]

good ol’ mm double tap camo opener

or s1 sub first couple weeks. genuinely unreactable

[obsidian loom]

Is rating starting to inflate or did they just turn it off

Because of s2 disaster

[nimble jasper]

its been inflating

[lavish ember]

How do you react when your monk healer tosses a ring between you and your opponent right as you're gonna burst?

[nimble jasper]

its a friendly ring so just walk through?

[fickle forge]

RBGs

Hehe eksdee

[warped warren]

🤓

[wheat crane]

Karg youre the best

[spice hornet]

bracket needs to be deleted

[wheat crane]

They floated around the idea of 6v6 rbgs awhile ago

Id play that all day

[simple rock]

yea but then you'd probably still have to interact with rbg players

yikes

[spice hornet]

are other rogues able to abuse something that allows you to sap anotehr rogues vanish?

sub rogue finds me and opens with everything with his fire mage I trinket cloak vanish insta and he saps me

insta

[full quiver]

Outplayed noob

[obsidian loom]

Is Celestial supposed to be main hand?

[wheat crane]

Fair

[nimble jasper]

you can sap vanish yes

whaazz has been doing it since legion

its a pretty known thing

tho not the easiest to pull off

[spice hornet]

A 2k rogue did this to me somehow lmao

Do they just spam the sap macro while in dance when another rogue vanishes ?

[wheat crane]

Its probably just macroed into something else

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[simple rock]

rogues have been vanish sapping a vanish since like 2006

isn't that just what it is with dance?

[nimble jasper]

i mean vanish just takes you out of combat

which is the only req to sap someone

[shut plover]

it's pretty easy to do if you duel him before he vanishes

[shut plover]

@spice hornet so next time check if he duels you, could be that

[opaque whale]

I thought u had to be stealthed to sap

[nimble jasper]

shadowdance

[sharp meteor]

Dance and Subterfuge.

[shut plover]

and in duel u can also use stealth abilities

[ripe inlet]

is the endurance conduit Condensed Anima Sphere any good?

[sharp meteor]

No, but we don't really have any alternatives aside from parry/enraged cdr.

IP one better for Arms as you can actually pretty that button.

[ripe inlet]

I'm basically wondering if a 19sec piercing howl is worth more than condensed anima

[raw summit]

i prefer howl

[sharp meteor]

By a sizable margin.

[spice hornet]

trying to keep my bud interested sincehes a BG noob

which MM spec is more memey for random BGs

kyrian or NL

[sharp meteor]

Both 1-shot people who don't press buttons.

[crimson niche]

Is single minded fury currently better for pvp ?

vs titan's grip, I mean

[elder wigeon]

no

[crimson niche]

Thanks - so double Cosmic Gladiator's Greatsword is the way to go, as far as which item I should prioritize from the shop?

[near delta]

Pulverizer. Mastery is much better than crit for fury.

[crimson niche]

Dope, I appreciate teh feedback!

Thank you so much!

[solar grail]

anyone know offhand the name of the addon that shows how much time you have left to click the button to go into an arena?

[rare ibex]

Is it even slightly reasonable to take on a equal/better geared sub rogue 1on1 as Arms in world pvp?

[spice hornet]

nope

arms prolly the worst 1v1 spec in the game

[sharp meteor]

Not in a million years.

[rare ibex]

figured

Damn that dude was annoying though 😦

[sage raptor]

Doesn't hurt to try

You want an ego boost? The rogues with duelist gear in the Dalaran Sewers are hot trash

[sharp meteor]

Not as trash as the ones who play shuffle all day because they're 2100 2s and 1700 3s

[wheat crane]

Cast sequence heroes

[sharp meteor]

Actually wild to get into a shuffle and just insta rip their go off and then they do nothing for 2 minutes

[nimble jasper]

3 terrible sin rogue teams

in a row

good god

[sharp meteor]

healed shuffle earlier

demo/demo/unh/unh

and a mistweaver

fresh new batch of fotm

[nimble jasper]

hpriest assa

kill priest opener

people dont expect greenskins ig

[near delta]

Man all these FOTM demos are kinda nice ngl

[elder wigeon]

people will always fotm reroll

I don't see swapping specs to be fotm rerolling especially when one is decapitated by blizz (arms/destro)

but if you fotm rerolled to destro and you swap specs, that's an exception to the rule

[lucid walrus]

warlocks breaking their ankles from pivoting to wind-sprint towards their grossest most intolerable spec each season

[sharp meteor]

It's actually insane how many new fotm specs pop up out of nowhere.

enough catchup for people to get a char caught up in a few days.

[near delta]

Yeah I agree they just don't cross me well at all so get the fear into bolt/kick on the tyrant in their opener and they do no damage

[elder wigeon]

i mean ideally we're in a situation where people can reroll instantly so it gives the best data possible for blizz to nerf

i don't mean it should be exactly as easy as league to just play another champ for example, but it shouldn't be a month long process just to be able to reroll

so there's people abusing a spec before it's way overrepresented from being beyond busted

[near delta]

I'm really curious how the meta goes in DF

[lucid walrus]

warrior fuck bad

[lean burrow]

why do people say S4 is gonna be short if it's gonna be 5 months?

maybe 6-8 months if DF gets postponed

[elder wigeon]

very short last season

usually the last season of an expac is 32-36 weeks

[lean burrow]

oh that's why

I started in shadowlands

[sharp meteor]

If expansion ships this year then pre-patch comes out prior to that so anywhere in the 3-4 month range relative to the year long seasons we've had at the tail end of other expansions

Rewards are same, damage of their changes have been done so I don't see it being inflated

[dusky locust]

Are they adding s4 elite sets or just recycling these?

[lean burrow]

is prepatch like a special event between seasons?

I thought it's like beta for df

can't wait for dragonlands

[lucid walrus]

that's exactly what it is

SL prepatch was the icecrown rare event, BFA prepatch was war of the thorns, etc etc

[lean burrow]

thanks bois

[fluid surge]

Anyone know why my reFLEX addon not working, I can open the window in game but does not record any matches

[wheat jay]

Select rated

[full kiln]

duck

[knotty tangle]

Is holy priest the best partner in 2s?

[lean burrow]

best healer in game

[knotty tangle]

Would think rsham or rdruid would be better, no?

[lucid walrus]

rsham is like being hit with an extra mortal strike

[elfin surge]

woyer bad at 2v2

[lean burrow]

doesn't necrotic wound stack with mortal wound?

seems to have different mechanic with absorbing heals or something

[raw summit]

yes

if you have UH fury its a very hefty MS

[lean burrow]

why is pepe on this emote angry?

[raw summit]

he is

[knotty tangle]

Is off hand a huge upgrade, or like any other piece?

[obsidian loom]

Do you have a list of addons you use to farm nerds

[bright ermine]

i've never experienced this fotm stuff. don't alt. don't respec. nothing, lol

[wheat crane]

LOL

True

[sharp meteor]

hpriest nice offensively with fury

[wheat crane]

Speaking of demo does fury demo work at all in 3s

[elfin surge]

yea

my addons are in the mud cord

[obsidian loom]

Thanks

[sharp meteor]

uh would need the demo to turn off their mortal strike i think

some other specs namely outlaw and unholy are better suited but fury should be fine ye

[wheat crane]

aight

i fing hate demo anyway might alt affi instead then

[lucid walrus]

ele straight terrifying w any caster rn

had a series into mes on his alt sham. did not go well

[elfin surge]

deez

[wheat jay]

Wack cord?

[elfin surge]

Banned

[knotty tangle]

Is thunder also good, or they work best with another caster? @lucid walrus

[sharp meteor]

Thunder is fine/good, yeah.

[lucid walrus]

it’s not bad

both specs have better comps for sure but i’ve always liked thunder

[lucid walrus]

to answer your question though they definitely play better with other casters a majority of the time

[knotty tangle]

Aah understandable. Thanks lads

[lucid walrus]

🤝

[wheat jay]

Never joined suck me left nutso

[full quiver]

@elfin surge ill join if you give me mod

[obsidian loom]

Mud you getting called out on venruki stream by chat for bullying 2100s

[sharp meteor]

?

at least mud plays at reasonable mmr

pika/xar/mitch crushing the skulls of actual 1500 newbies all day for the entire expansion

[raw summit]

42-0 at 2400 mmr would be so fucking rad

[elfin surge]

clip it

[obsidian loom]

Was on mobile I lost it

[spice hornet]

lmfao yup

[obsidian loom]

Was about 2 hours in

[robust hearth]

30% haste and 30% verse is what we want right?

For fury

[obsidian loom]

I faced pika 4 times in 2s the last week

He shit on me so hard

[robust hearth]

[sharp meteor]

eh that type of thing kind of cringe because it'd usually require you play the top comp or avoid people queuing your counters

[robust hearth]

[sharp meteor]

42-0 starting at bunga mmr isn't particularly rough especially if you rebrick

[robust hearth]

[sharp meteor]

but yeah boosting/deranking is a dead option if somebody who bricks down to 1500 to smash people for views isn't suspended

[obsidian loom]

You should get mmr locked

Sorry not sorry

It'd solve all the boosting problems

[lucid walrus]

honestly a floor determined by season peak doesn’t sound awful

[raw summit]

If you peak 2400 dont go below 1800

Or smth

[obsidian loom]

Kids getting boosted are screwed because they will lose every match at 2100 and end up with 0 cr

[raw summit]

Like peak - 600

[obsidian loom]

Boosters couldn't boost in wood league

[lucid walrus]

was gonna say peak-500 yeah

somewhere in that ballpark fs

[full quiver]

Lol what

[elfin surge]

i just ruin pvp 😎

[full quiver]

All you have to do is dumpster mud when you queue into him

Cause his healer will suck

[raw summit]

Influence to big you ruined eu too

[crimson niche]

Which slots should I put legendaries on/

I have one on ring

[full quiver]

😂

Sword

[raw summit]

signet ring is good

[crimson niche]

And unity where?

[raw summit]

unity sword also huge

trinket o.o

[crimson niche]

Also, thank you :D

[raw summit]

unity can be wherever tbh

mud has ring so that cant be too wrong

[spice hornet]

speaking of how fast people fotm reroll lmao @sharp meteor

[full quiver]

lol

mud just slaps shit wherever

[sharp meteor]

where'd they all come from

[spice hornet]

i have no idea

cause last season u never saw dks

i swear like 80% of the arena pop has every class max level

ready to swap

like I just play my warrior no matter what

[nimble jasper]

evoker has

a 20 yd aoe stun

on alpha

[spice hornet]

they need that

[sharp meteor]

after monk i am convinced that every new class is just going to be a different flavor of havoc

easy to play, high burst, high mobility, high sustain, etc

[spice hornet]

feel that way too. modern wow

not the same devs who made the original classes

[sharp meteor]

i mean imagine if balance was a new spec people would be losing their minds

[lucid walrus]

where warrior tree

[sharp meteor]

idk evoker might be cool we'll see

ya where tree ree

[robust hearth]

ALPHA IS OUT!?

[nimble jasper]

yes

fnf alpha

[robust hearth]

u have alpha? 😮

[lucid walrus]

friday night funkin alpha

[spice hornet]

lmao

my 10 year old brother plays that game

[warm urchin]

How else do they sell the xpac if new class isnt busted.

[spice hornet]

fax

Anyone know what causes the bug where all of your WA's get deleted

happened to me last month and happened to my bud this morning

I think it has something to do with the server reset

maintenance

happened to both of us on a tuesday morning login a fter playing the night b4

[sharp meteor]

Blizz testing method of wiping all weakauras before banning the addon.

[fiery marsh]

Anyone knows this Font?

[raw summit]

ask them?

[knotty tangle]

damn..played thunder vs rmp..was not a fun experience..how do you even compete?

[obsidian loom]

You don't

[knotty tangle]

Going mage would be best strat though right?

[raw summit]

going /afk also good

[full kiln]

interesting bg

with rogues

only

[crimson niche]

Should I buy armor first with conquest or weapons?

[full kiln]

weapons

[obsidian loom]

Welcome to 10.0 DF

[full kiln]

haha

warm up

[obsidian loom]

Venruki today:

Rogue isn't that good

He's playing Necro assassin

[nimble jasper]

necro assassination is actually good

vs higher players who actually press their buttons sepsis stops working

[fiery marsh]

Bracers are wrist guys right? (for the signet)

[primal cloud]

I had one of those games a few days ago. We lost hard

[raw summit]

yes

[lucid walrus]

bracers sure are wrists

[wheat crane]

aight if i swap over to necro wheres the thing to buy to catchup renown

[sage raptor]

Next to the flight master

[lucid walrus]

starts you at 60 now as opposed to 40

[dark sparrow]

Wrong, 4set>weapons>rest

[dark sparrow]

Get 4set, spam comp stomp (think it’s this or next week) and get max honor weapons

[crimson niche]

Alrighty, thank yuo so much!

This is the max honor weapon, right?

So now I should go for 4 piece?

[raw summit]

ye

[knotty tangle]

What buttons do you press when they sepsis vanish fan of knives for 65k dmg instant?

[primal cloud]

I have Alt+F4 mapped to my spacebar

[warped warren]

[sly furnace]

Been away from pvp a couple of monthes is it worth coming back?

[lucid walrus]

no

[wheat crane]

Dont listen to him i just resubbed as well after like season 2

Its awfull

But a good awfull

[warped warren]

shit awful

[wheat crane]

Nah whats really awfull is this fucking frozen cauliflower crust pizza

Fucking fast all day, have 2 meals and this shit ruins one of em

[full quiver]

Lololol

[proven maple]

I think it’s fun getting to play fury for a season. Although it’s stupid damage bot shit. It’s a fun change and you can just blast to 2.1

[primal cloud]

How big of a difference is there between Fury and Arms? Am I gimping myself a lot by going Arms?

[proven maple]

Laros plays arms over 3k. It’s fine. Just doesn’t fit as many comps. Still great in turbo. Etc.

[elder wigeon]

more so a testament to the comp rather than the spec

arms is not very good

I wouldn't ever play arms in any comp over fury at this point

[primal cloud]

[proven maple]

I mean the pressure of fully stacked slaughterhouse with dampening increasing is hard to match

[primal cloud]

I'll be doing mostly casual BGs and some 2's with randos/guildies, so not pushing CR or anything

[proven maple]

Oh it really doesn’t matter then. You could play prot even

[primal cloud]

Though I guess Fury would be more optimal for BGs since they have better self-sustain from what I gather?

[sharp meteor]

It's not really the sustain but ya

[warped warren]

not even that

arms defensively is dogshit

[fickle forge]

Not like dampening works extra well with MS effects though

It's relatively the same

[warped warren]

[simple rock]

retard question but fleshcraft absorb amount is affected by damp and ms right

[lucid walrus]

don't think absorbs are ever ms'd

damp affects it i'm pretty sure

[hexed ermine]

for S4 will S3 honor items be further upgradeable or do you have to start fresh?

sorry dumb question, next dumb question: 2h or 1h better for fury pvp? or does it matter much

[sharp meteor]

Fresh

2h always

[hexed ermine]

thanks! why is that?

[sharp meteor]

No upside as smf

Less hp less dam never worth playing

[hexed ermine]

gotcha ty!

yeah, def more stam on the 2h. the little more rage 1h may accumulate isnt worth the tradeoff

[lucid walrus]

it's just generally tuned to do less damage

3-5% more or less

[hexed ermine]

ah, in pve i had read it was negligible

why i wanted to ask for pvp

ty

[lucid walrus]

if it's that way in pve then the gap is likely v similar. no real reason to lose vers, mast and primaries going smf though

[hexed ermine]

for sure the loss of stats not worth it at all. like i said, dumb questions lol

[wheat crane]

Yea theyd have to overly tune the dmg

But they dont

Also why is venthyr shit now did they nerf condemn awhile ago

[elder wigeon]

condemn never got buffed an execute did

[indigo barn]

That and execute charge got nerfed hard.

[sharp meteor]

Execute buff and armor nerf

Condemn in shambles

[indigo barn]

Un-nerf execute leggo

Get them 1 shots in

[hexed ermine]

So when s4 rolls out, all haste vers gear for fury or throw some mastery in the mix?

[wheat crane]

Trueeee

[knotty tangle]

Damn. That bad..

[fiery marsh]

Are /start attack macro useful ?

[simple rock]

gonna be same shit unless they do any balancing (doubt)

i'm gonna play all mastery arms next season

[spice hornet]

Do it

All mastery Rend build

[elder wigeon]

lmao

rend scales with haste too

only scales with mastery because everything scales with mastery lmao

[knotty tangle]

Fury still the go to in s4 right?

[wary harbor]

no changes announced yet so currently meta would be the same

[knotty tangle]

Sick. Gonna be a fun season

[obsidian loom]

[steep inlet]

fuck fury

me arms OG

me wanna arms

[fiery marsh]

How do you track covenant abilities with omnibar? Is there an option to add the skills?

[elder wigeon]

yes

[fickle forge]

You add the spellID

[knotty tangle]

Abomb limb should be removed. Ultra toxic ability

[fickle forge]

It carries over to DF fam

[warped warren]

[elder wigeon]

they don't get 16 seconds of it tho nor the insane legendary dmg

[raw summit]

without 60% amp on condie + lego its fine

[grand scaffold]

anymore talent trees announced?

[raw summit]

you could look at the #news channel innit

[grand scaffold]

i kinda didnt know that existed mb

[shut barn]

It lines up with every disarm and wall

Warrior has no hard times vs dk

[knotty tangle]

U disarm abomb?

Thought u wantes to hold it to deny ds

[scarlet barn]

u hold to deny dn

[knotty tangle]

Dn?

[full quiver]

DEEZ NUTS

[obsidian loom]

Imagine getting got this hard

[scarlet barn]

You failed to deny dn...

[red ridge]

In 2s as a fury warrior what is the best healer for me to pair with?

[obsidian loom]

Hpriest

Secretly mw monk

I have a mistweave bro that finishes my kills all the time

But power infusion when you're not stuck in a 30 second cc chain is broken

[full quiver]

Rsham felt really good to me to 2.2

A month ago or so

[knotty tangle]

Ayy lmao

[wary heart]

any rogue nerfs upcoming?

[lucid walrus]

nope

[wary heart]

[warped warren]

[wheat jay]

Oof

[plush cradle]

Did you quit pve

You played some keys in bfa

[warped warren]

na, i raid and pvp

[plush cradle]

aa

[warped warren]

heavily dislike the meta rn tho so barely do either

[plush cradle]

[severe skiff]

Anyone have any thunder tips? arms thunder not fury.

[knotty tangle]

I had a lot of success being on one target the tab target when then ele randomly proccs on a guy

A lot of success, on 1600 mmr.

[wheat crane]

Standard ele

Do dmg and survive till you rng 1 shot

[severe skiff]

Does ele just play back on your pillar most of the game? do you ever push in on healers or just ride dps training the ele?

[shut barn]

DT is every 1 min and abom is every 2 min so u can disarm every DT

second abom is third DT

[knotty tangle]

Sorry, DT?

[full quiver]

divine templers

[severe skiff]

Dark Transformation, empowered dk pet

[knotty tangle]

Aah right thanks

[unreal isle]

Hi guys, quick one.... im new to warrior and am just starting to gear it for PVP. Should i go for my 4pc first or the conq 2h's? Thanks!

[raw summit]

4p generally but after that weapons are highest prio

[unreal isle]

ok cool - Thanks 🙂

[wheat crane]

Legit not playing ret alt, necro? HOW DARE THEY NERF TOLL, shit was fun as hell

Actually not sure if it was nerfed or just necro buffed

[paper oracle]

the real secret to abom limb is to leap out with spell reflect up so he can't death grip you back in

and line

then the dk stands there and does nothing

[mystic barn]

This is literally what I told scoobz but he told me I was wrong

[full quiver]

yeah it works if one of the other 50 million spells

doesn't knock of reflect

[mystic barn]

“No it’s impossible when I leap out with 10% hp while eating a whole abom limb”

[paper oracle]

idk, i haven't had any problem with doing it consistently

literally run in, press every button offensive button i have to force defensives

then run the fuck away

now we have 3 minutes to kill them beofre another limb, or whatever the cd of it

[fickle forge]

2 min, dadglad

[paper oracle]

they're dead before they ever get it anyway

[paper oracle]

btw hi how you been

[full quiver]

yeah i haven't played fury since it swapped to demo/dk

it was destro/dk when i played

[mystic barn]

been good, haven’t played wow since pre resolve trinket nerf

just been grinding league now

[paper oracle]

i just came back like 2 weeks ago

it's actually pretty decent right now

[full quiver]

lol

if you like queueing into the same dk/demo team all night i guess

[paper oracle]

DK/demo DK/DH TSG all pretty solid comps

[mystic barn]

yea we would smash to glad ez

cuz I left my dk at like 2200

With affi dk

[full quiver]

yeah you definitely would

[paper oracle]

once you get out of the shitter bracket its a lot more diverse

[full quiver]

the dks at 2200 are a lot worse than you lol

[mystic barn]

but too lazy to play wow atm

[paper oracle]

we que'd a whole night without a single demo/DK team i think the other night

rmp/ ret/war jungle lot of DH/DK

i asked another feral if he wanted to finish out his wins playing kitty he said "lol no that comp sucks"

[full quiver]

only as good as the druid is

[wheat crane]

Is feral still necro

[paper oracle]

we're playing necro feral / kyrian fury

[wheat crane]

That sounds fun, run in dump everything then piss off till feral has next swarm go?

[paper oracle]

basically every stun DR we have a go

feel free to fuck off between stun DR

sometimes your best defensive is not taking damage

but otherwise you should be pumping as much as you can to force cooldowns between DRs

[near delta]

It's possible but it can get eaten by Kevin or legit anything damage from the demo, or damage/dots from the holy priest or maybe a gust of wind

[mystic barn]

this is why you leap towards a wall

and make better decision making early than waiting until the last moment

[near delta]

Yeah 10% is something lmao

[full quiver]

yeah it's sick when some retard can press one button

and fury wall + nf wall + aegis

• rally

isn't enough

[sage raptor]

No good dks I stg

[full quiver]

why can't necro banner do a 6k dps aoe around you for 30s

[sage raptor]

That's a terrible idea

Be ashamed

/slap

[mystic barn]

scoobz spiderman pointing as a fury warrior lmao

because conq banner obviously such a terrible covenant abil

that doesnt enable you or your partners to 1 shot

[full quiver]

where slappy nerf

conq got nerfed

[mystic barn]

conq got a slap on the wrist

[spice hornet]

when u get a comp stomp like this ....

[full quiver]

pls tell me ur horde

[spice hornet]

im horde but this is the first comp stomp where we won the game without 5 capping

unbelievable

[full quiver]

some people are so bad man lol

[spice hornet]

like 15min game

comp stomp

[ripe inlet]

I had no idea they nerfed crushing blow a few weeks ago, is arms better now?

[steep inlet]

No

[spice hornet]

@full quiver horde again

thought the bots were supposed to be on the enemy team

[full quiver]

Lmao

I just cap blacksmith then afk there once team pushes farm

The bots won't push to BS as long as we have every point but farm so u can just leave comp

[wheat crane]

Is comp stomp easy honor?

Last time i played it was the fastest

[raw summit]

it is if teams dont full afk

[wheat crane]

Might just cap honor do this pve shit and chill till s4

[elder wigeon]

Fury needs a few more nerfs to be equal

[spice hornet]

watching my healer 1v1 a fire mage

actually crazy how often they have blazing barrier

[wheat jay]

Tell him to run

Till 90 damp

[spice hornet]

ye hge killed him

[wheat jay]

Then dot the guy

Nice

[spice hornet]

all fire did was run around pillars and maintain blazingbarrier

didnt even try to bust

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[spice hornet]

same healing as my disc at the end

pure dps class btw

[wheat jay]

Loool

Ye its broken

[full quiver]

the cringe thing now

is all these mages playing night elf

and fucking shadow melding in some random spot

and waiting for u to come out on hunter lol

[warped warren]

get rekt noob

[spice hornet]

[spice hornet]

Really irks me how fire mages are unable to be punished even if they make really bad plays

[sage raptor]

Arms needs a few more buffs*

[elder wigeon]

they won't

[sage raptor]

I know

[wheat crane]

Dragonflight might reset the world order who knows

Were always 1 tunning patch away from anything being meta

[crimson niche]

Can I continue to level up the comic glad gear once I turn it into pvp tier gear?

Sorry - this is all a little overwhelming

[elder wigeon]

yes

[knotty tangle]

The rogues push bs/lm/mine actually

[hasty crane]

Is fury dead now since the banner nerf

[raw summit]

no

[elder wigeon]

nope still much better than arms lmao

[knotty tangle]

Fury always dead

Or maybe thats just me

[obsidian loom]

Burst reduction is noticeable, we went from sepsis to boomkin

[raw summit]

Still plenty

[elder wigeon]

yeah I can't really kill anything on my own anymore is how I'd put it

[wary heart]

season closes aug 2?

[elder wigeon]

yes

[wary heart]

but i need cr inflation to feel good about my pixel numbers

[elder wigeon]

inflation is pretty high rn

not as high as season 2, about 200cr lower currently

[wary heart]

hard to tell bc pop is so low

[wheat jay]

Already so high?

Wait, how long has the season been out?

[elder wigeon]

like 4 months or something? idk

[wheat jay]

Nah

100% longer

6-7?

[elder wigeon]

march 1st

[wheat jay]

Lol actually not even 5 months

[elder wigeon]

4 months

[wheat jay]

Fucking hell xD

[elder wigeon]

like i said

r1 rn is around 3k on NA

[wheat jay]

So if it went for as long as s2 how high would the inflation go lol

[elder wigeon]

about the same

r1 in NA was about 3375

[wheat jay]

If its 200 diff now

[elder wigeon]

not much different

I'm rank 500 rn at 2776

rank 550 last season was like 3100

at the end

[wheat jay]

Or higher

[lucid walrus]

some teams just hitting 3.3 NA

[weak oyster]

guys

How you deal with double dps that 1shot u like rouge

I’m sick of this

[raw summit]

press defensives 🧠

[weak oyster]

always stun me and kill me in 3sec

[raw summit]

disarm is good into rogue

[weak oyster]

I did man

[raw summit]

healer also has to do something

but sometimes you just die

[weak oyster]

I put trinket and everything defending ability

[weak oyster]

He can’t

I hate these rouge so bad

[raw summit]

you will not beat a good outlaw in 2s

[weak oyster]

🦦

[wary heart]

you cant beat assa as warrior unless you have a healer that can dispell poison

combat you can kill the other dps easier than the rogue

sub is weird

[lucid walrus]

depends what comp specifically

if you’re at like 2k or something and it’s a double dps comp like sub/ww you can make an educated guess that they’re playing for 1shots

save trink for their big huge fuckoff epic pikaboo montage duel 1shot or something

[wary harbor]

NA is 200 rating higher than EU though acc. to arenamate r1 cutoffs. 3k for NA, 2.8 for EU

[elder wigeon]

yup

[full quiver]

If you have every point but farm they don't push bs because they have to go through team fight to do so. I've noticed

[hasty crane]

Rank 1 cuttoff this season seem very low compared to others why is that

[wary heart]

so how does a 30% wall and no healing bc im stuck in cc so i cant bt save me in this

rogue pre-evasions the drop

speaking of, during one of pikaboo's stream carries, he weaved a stun in between my trinket and storm bolt gcd so i just fucking died bc he has 0ms neurons

[lucid walrus]

sounds like an outplay

[wary heart]

with pika? sure

but the rest of the drooling fotm rerollers can still kill you through wall

outplayed lole

[elder wigeon]

it's not

[full kiln]

idk man i dont feel like playing anymore xd

i log twice a day for bgs

hope next season stuff gets better

[wary heart]

[lucid walrus]

i mean ya

rogue is a v skillful class that requires DRing your own stuns and playing 600iq comps

[wary heart]

i didnt know i was in the rogue discord

[nimble jasper]

most good rogues hold their global to instant restun your trinket

so if you dont instant press something with your trinket you die

trinket is off gcd

[sharp meteor]

is your point of reference like unchained or something

[sharp meteor]

yeah and most good rmps swap their go if first trinket can't cover others

hate rmp so much it's unreal

[nimble jasper]

vindictive r1 was like 2.5

yeah but your avg shitter duelist rmp cant do that because mage players at that rating cant land a polymorph without a prior stun

[sharp meteor]

they'd be polying somebody in cc though generally like off the rogue stun and rogue swaps stun to the chastise>fear target or the db>sheep target simutaenously

[nimble jasper]

yeah thats good rmps

[full kiln]

@nimble jasper

mich

kyrian fury

i want to try it

is it good

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

Feels nice as turb.

[full kiln]

i also see arms warriors

more then before

did something change

?

[sharp meteor]

Friend of a friend also thought it felt good in thunder.

[full kiln]

kyrian arms?

[nimble jasper]

idk fury is boring

[full kiln]

ye

fury

boring man

thats

it

boring spec

its good and stuff

but

boring

[sharp meteor]

Kyrian fury.

Although maybe Arms is okay, I dislike it outside turb.

[full kiln]

i didnt play arenas for week bro

[sharp meteor]

My power was out for like 30 hours, it feels like learning to walk again.

[full kiln]

i was queing everyday

and now i cant anymore

games are boring

fury is boring spec

[weak oyster]

Don’t play it

[raw summit]

Looks good

[lucid walrus]

underbite

[spice hornet]

Anyone do an analysis of the evoker tree and abilities? Does it look OP?

[wheat jay]

https://c.tenor.com/bX4DnYsxWfwAAAAM/crimson.gif

New mount

[sharp meteor]

That is a glorious looking glad drake.

[lucid walrus]

underbite kinda based

[wheat jay]

Guess I'll tryhard again lmao

Survi is back on the menu

[sharp meteor]

Hope they bumped glad to 2700 and added elite elite sets at 2400 or something.

[wheat jay]

I will play it no matter how shit it is

[wheat jay]

No fuck you

I want my participation award okay?

[sharp meteor]

Watch first season be like dread and sinful

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaaan

Good for me

I want easy glad

Then I go chill in raid

Maybe collecting some Elite sets on alts

Like

I have some chars that id like to play

But getting gear, leggos, etc

Is a fucking nightmare lol

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor

ahahahaha

[sharp meteor]

They need that.

[lucid walrus]

cuckoo wacky stupid drip elite set past 18 would be neat

or just legion-style 2k or something

[wheat jay]

2k imo should come back

Especially since theyre class specific again

[lucid walrus]

live ruki reaction

[wary heart]

1 minute

i..uh

[lucid walrus]

that's just default for pve

ooh shaman datamining's up

[gaunt rover]

L O L

[lucid walrus]

https://c.tenor.com/WkY7myRWVIkAAAAM/syndrome-incredibles.gif

[wary heart]

is chain harvest there

if so

[lucid walrus]

yeah

[wary heart]

[lucid walrus]

chain harv, prim wave, vesper

[wary heart]

i swear to god, line 10 for warrior better not be like

avatar

dragon's roar

and cleave

[lucid walrus]

cleave

[wary heart]

member when

they made cleave a talent

"i need talent to swing spikey stick left to right instead of up and down"

[tired portal]

db cooldown for fire mages increased to 45 seconds

[lavish current]

What Warrior Spec is currently the go-to for PvP? 🤔

[lucid walrus]

either's fine

although arms doesn't feel good outside of turbo/retwar really

[tired portal]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warrior-datamined-spell-changes-and-talent-tree-speculation-in-dragonflight-327720

[wary heart]

execute above 80

[near delta]

Lmao condemn but not let's go

[wet scarab]

❤️

[wary heart]

rude interruption back?

[near delta]

Yalllllll

Dbts 2 ninute cd baseline

[tired portal]

Charge Charge to an enemy, dealing (11.466%21% of Attack power) Physical damage, rooting it for 1 sec
Warbringer
and stunning it for until canceled
Generates 10 Rage.20 Rage.

charge stun might be back

and no mention of defensive stance

[wary heart]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-the-simpsons-spinning-walking-floor-gif-17234189

[wet scarab]

is it just me or this pog? Fueled by Violence: You are healed for 30.0% of the damage dealt by Deep Wounds.

[scarlet barn]

Well

[wary heart]

depends on deep wounds

[scarlet barn]

Prob gonna be better in tree for prot

[wary heart]

i dont want to be rend bot like in legion

[scarlet barn]

Cause you look at talents now

But you dont know how tree will be structured

[scarlet barn]

Thats also important

[wary heart]

lol lmao

[wet scarab]

I really dont get the point of that axe/sword talent is it just so we leave maces to paladins

[tired portal]

fuk yeh man

[tough compass]

@wet scarab theres a mace part in the arms tree which increaes colossus smash dam

[wet scarab]

ahhh

#meaningfulchoices

[near delta]

By 30%

[wet scarab]

bye bye 8 second spear tho :<

[tired portal]

4 sec spear will suck

[near delta]

I mean people won't be able to get out of it as easily maybe

[wary heart]

they'll have to raise it

no one will take a 4s spear

by the time your gcd resets

[fickle forge]

Give it up for stun charge!

[wary heart]

you only have 3s

holy fuck they added warbringer

[fickle forge]

Winbringer!

[wet scarab]

xD

[tough compass]

Euhm dont they add spear as baseline and not in the talents

same for the Condemn part

[wet scarab]

there seem to be a lot of mobility talents

man that mortal strike + execute thing is going to be so toxic

[wary heart]

i'd take a 4s spear base

with +4s talent

that's fair

[wet scarab]

the upgrade talent is just the conduit sadly

more initial damage and higher rage gen

[lucid walrus]

my beloved

[tough compass]

I wish they wud add the decreased attack speed part for thunder clap, that wud add abit uniqueness to warr util

[near delta]

So no mention of dstance but also ignore pain has a 1s cd

[tired portal]

dstance could be made baseline or removed

what is Thunderous Roar?

[near delta]

Yeah baseline would make sense

[lucid walrus]

thunderous roar's some aoe bleed probably

split their eardrums or smth

[tired portal]

so could be useful for getting rogues out of stealth

[wet scarab]

holding avatar and colossus smash for that big fatality execute will just one-shot people from 30%

[fickle forge]

Think it's removed tbh

[sharp meteor]

🦀 db cd increased to 45 seconds 🦀

[wet scarab]

man some of those evoker talents would pair really well with warrior in arena

they gave them a buffed intervene ;_;

[tired portal]

twi talents that reduce pummel cooldown by 1 sec

two

[wet scarab]

evoker counters RMP confirmed

[fickle forge]

Yeah this is busted

RIP mages

Get fucked

[wet scarab]

that's not the most busted one

this is

[fickle forge]

[wet scarab]

evoker also gets mass root, say hello to evoker/hunter and eternal freezing traps lol

lol they even get the druid flying to an ally talent

[simple rock]

warr and shaman talents look fun

[lucid walrus]

thunder gaming

[simple rock]

shams get gust of wind back too

[low cobalt]

fuk the warrrior talents look awesome so excited

[lucid walrus]

don't be a fool wrap ur tool

[low cobalt]

crit dopamine

🤤

fatality montages incomming

this is just a shitty version of mortal combo right?

we have to spend rage + a global cd now instead of an extra ms being instant and free?

[near delta]

Waiting for the xaryu video complaining how fire mage always gets nerfed lol

[sharp meteor]

It's deserved 🦀

[near delta]

TF???? REP I guess

[spice hornet]

Whew no more getting cheesed by blessing of summer or ashen hallow

[obsidian loom]

I just want rogues to suffer

[red ridge]

Is this out now or im dragonflight?

[lucid walrus]

alpha talent

[sage raptor]

Can't wait to get some they/them orcussy

[low cobalt]

😂

[fickle forge]

Just the casual '70% of your HP in one button' stays

[simple rock]

borrowed power is gone, there won't be any one shots in dragonflight

[fickle forge]

[lucid walrus]

now it's owned power

☻

[raw summit]

☻

With the new body type thing do you think i can make my orc girthier

[lucid walrus]

would b cool

not gonna happen sadly

[primal cloud]

They just changed the text for the options

[raw summit]

girthgodx

[wheat crane]

YES

[raw summit]

any recommendations for fury fist weppies

[wheat crane]

No more male female in game

Just numerical

Ty blizzard hitting the real problems

Forget class balance as long as we have ppl balance

Just make arms op and the world is right

[nimble jasper]

“identifies as she”

[primal cloud]

yespls, I hate Fury

[raw summit]

you bet your ass

[wheat crane]

also shadily hope they dial back every class having a ms

go back to rogue and warrior and call it a day

[raw summit]

rogue shouldnt have

they have enough shit

[lucid walrus]

rogue kit so bloated

[wheat crane]

hey man im with it

but fat chance they would

[fervent sand]

Hi! SMF in PvP is worth?

[raw summit]

no

[wet scarab]

Nope

[fervent sand]

Welp

Sadface

Thanks

[sharp meteor]

No, it's just worse in every way.

[fervent sand]

Well, 2H it is

Already got 2 swords.

Thanks

[dark sparrow]

Seen the new xpac glad mount? Think I’m gonna start saving up money for that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/129600026874871808/997214589844455445/unknown.png

[wheat jay]

Pathetic

https://c.tenor.com/sFct6jVywUgAAAAM/weakness-disgusts-me-senju.gif

[dark sparrow]

Who am I even kidding? Got a house, a wife and 2 kids, I can’t even afford that shit

[dark sparrow]

Bro have you seen the Hunter talent tree, ima have to reroll if it stays like that lmao

[scarlet barn]

weak

[wheat jay]

I'm staying survi

[sharp meteor]

They picked condemn instead of conq banner aaaiiiieeee

[wheat jay]

Talents are dogshit but it is what it is

[lucid walrus]

they picked spear instead of aftershock aiieeee

[sharp meteor]

You can't take my spear from me 🪓

[simple rock]

spikes on the wings kinda ruins this mount for me

but it's not terrible

[sharp meteor]

I love the spikes. More spikes, pls.

[near delta]

Death sentence unnerfed too pls

[spice hornet]

Could’ve sworn they mentioned that the glad mount will be customizable since it’s tied to the new dragon riding system or some sht

Yeah we just gotta see. Would be lame thst you can’t even fly around on your glad mount within dragon isles

[elder wigeon]

dragonflight talents look really cool

for arms

[full quiver]

can i make the weiner bigger on my dragon mount

[sharp meteor]

I'm optimistic.

rip Fury probably

[elder wigeon]

good

looks like fury will still be around

[sage raptor]

Lmaoo

Good

[sharp meteor]

Arms with Spear

[sage raptor]

I'm still a Shockwave believer

[wheat crane]

For you? Yes.

[full quiver]

lol

[full quiver]

yeah it would be unplayable w/o that

[warped warren]

you wont have random reck procs tho

[elder wigeon]

so far that we see

this isn't the full talent tree

not even 1/3

[full quiver]

I don't want fury to be good ever again

[warped warren]

same

[full quiver]

Can't even bring myself to play my war lol

No shot at glad unless I spam lfg as fury but cba to play it

[elder wigeon]

lowest T thing I've ever heard

[warped warren]

playing fury is the lowest T thing ive ever seen

[full quiver]

Dh is way more fun than fury

[warped warren]

anything rn

[full quiver]

But I can only get into monkey dk groups

[warped warren]

is more fun than fury

[full quiver]

And the dh can't carry a bad dk lol

[sharp meteor]

Nah, killing DKs in opener through ibf is pretty fun.

[full quiver]

Or I'm not good enough to

[elder wigeon]

it's not about fury being low T, straight up not trying to get glad because you don't wanna play it is low T

[wheat jay]

Id rather not have glad than play something I don't enjoy

[elder wigeon]

low T

[wheat jay]

I ain't that desperate for some pixels

[warped warren]

fury rerollers 🥱

[sharp meteor]

My highest warr until a week or two ago was Arms

Fury was a nice relaxing break of chasing people with Crushing Blow charge

[full quiver]

It just sucks man lol

[elder wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909372203492065294/997272762869620807/unknown.png

new glad mount

[sharp meteor]

🔥

[elder wigeon]

🙏 hope it's top .5% again

[sharp meteor]

Same. Maybe this is the elite glad mount with extra spikes or something.

I doubt they ever go back from flat 2400 dragons, people would lose it.

[elder wigeon]

2400 being glad is just so bad lmao

[sharp meteor]

It is, especially in 30 week seasons.

[elder wigeon]

they could increase it to 2600 tbh

maybe even 2700

[undone pumice]

inshallah mac and cheese mount

[elder wigeon]

what

[hasty crane]

Evoker has a passive PVP talent that makes them immune to all CC and push backs lol

Insta best PVP class in the game

[elder wigeon]

what?

[full quiver]

I mean u can say same about druid with tranquility

And hpala with bubble

[elder wigeon]

no you can't cmon man

[full quiver]

Priest with angel

[hasty crane]

Yeah but this is a passive lmao

[elder wigeon]

link it

[hasty crane]

Up 100%

[full quiver]

If they fake kick

[warped warren]

he doesnt know 😴

[full quiver]

Lol

[lucid walrus]

jus don’t get juked lol

[elder wigeon]

bruh

[warped warren]

reroll inc? 🤨