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I meab paying attention to everything is not a negative
you can guess when someone can die
can play both
if you play stormbolt you have to hit pet more often
true, i think im letting my rage cap and still pressing blood thirst and the other one lol
basically missing rampages thus loosing enrages..ill have to back and watch my vods to be sure
my dmg suffers most when we are getting shit canned lol
fury is like 2 buttons
i flake and no clue how to respond xD
ya fury doesn't function when behind
try to trade as best u can but rly the spec is dmgbot
caster comps are the worst, but mirrors get teh upper hand too lol...(ret/war/priest)
at the end of the day im still only 2 weeks in on warrior..i cant expect myself to play as well as my main overnight lol
doesnt help that im a slow learner...things need to click for me lol
ty
Just add LEEEEEEECH right
demo lock : )
would recommend toggling their frames off if possible depending on your plate addon
This isn't mine just saw this posted from someone else. That screen clutter tho...
ah yeah. demo with uptime + any other pet class = gpu check
I turned imp nameplates off
but can u 1shot them for heal procs?
never considered that
Trimaz UI is demonic
The info it gives is minimal and pretty good, but it's scaled so big and cramped together
Is that true?
not sure, i'm asking
Ope
Nah you can't
Has to be an actual pet pet
And that's not a DK pet either for some reason
Otherwise play would 100% be to pick IV and farm the fk out of imps
Damnn
don't be Trimaz and turn off minion plates in default UI
can still see big pets and totems etc
but imps and dogs and kevin and kyrian robocop won't show
It feels like people either forgot ww exists or are only tracking dance of chiji
the number of people i've killed in opener on monk alt while playing hit combo is comedic
every rdruid game goes the same
guy tries to sit it or trinket tranq late
get rung on tranq die
Ww is painful yo play
Bruh what
What the shit did I read?
do you know if ever they released info about season 4?
will there be a new armor set?
yes it's a recolor of season 3, starts in about 4 weeks
did they released the details
wdym
what color is it
bro
i don't remember, look up eternal gladiator gear on the ptr wowhead
strong
bro
so
if you get cought b y lock
on his cds
nobody can heal that
haha
actually insane
lets all reroll lock now
this game is so boring every game i que into locks
havent heard anything about recolors
and eternal gladiator pieces can bee seen in collections tab in the game
same color
if there isn't even a recolor that's bad
there is no
iirc last time there were recolors of sets was pandaria
and it was only because there was honor and conquest versions
now there's different sets for combatant and gladiator
so same thing
legion had two seasons per set
and there no recolors either
there have never been recolors between seasons
iirc
maybe blizzard intern will surprise us

they are just gonna add recolors last minute to surprise us, I swear

prideful and grievous
were there recolors?
ya
one was brown & green for warrior, other was like tan/beige +blue
there were wrath sets that were recolors as well iirc
i wanna say hateful/relentless?
diff sets
I remember that one from mop
but they were apart from raid gear
if im aware
I have a question. I was running normal gavel and hc jaithys in pvp because 9.2 was not kind for me with weapons, i just farmed pvp pulverizer and don't know which weapon to replace
I think i should go gavel pulverizer
pulverizer + pulverizer
yea but i dont have another 1800
was curious what to run for now
gavel + pulverizer or pulverizer + jaityhs
serious question - is this a viable season to push glad for the first time? currently sitting at about 2200 after about 200 games, but feels like every match beyond this point is r1s and multi-glads :/
You should do it in s2 lol
It was giga inflated
Ez mode
And right now itโs giga deflated
Hard mode
ye ques are dead atm tbh
i face glads at1. 7 even
and after nerfs
locks is all yo u see
Is Gavel worth using over a vers weap in pvp?
if you have a 285 one
bro if lock doesnt get nerfed im not subbing again
god demo is so fun
drop my goon squad that nobody understands and they just die to the pets
Lol
balls
lock?
or i dont know, fury?

How does Arms compare to Fury nowadays? Are they more or less equal, or would I be at a disadvantage if I play Arms?
Nice damage during conq/spear + warbringer, especially into cleaves
Other than that kind of underwhelming for more much you take
That's a bit of a bummer. I've played Warrior on and off since TBC, and have never touched the Fury spec until today. I miss Arms 
Then play Arms
You know what? I think I will! Everyone loves a good underdog story, right?
Depends on the story
300 the movie
fr fr
what lego fury play in pvp?
signet good deathmaker good
Been playing arms undergeared and got to 1500 today so that's excited for me
Nice ๐ What item level and what comp did you run?
Holy pally and 250 pvp ilvl
For arms is crit a good stat to go for or should I go with the mace weapon?
And does arms need 4p?
And is necrolord viable for arms?
yes to all
Lol alright
Both weps are fine. Tier is good. Necro is fine/good.
Could go Fury and do this instead, though.
You wanna use two handers
I know. I was meaning the cosmic greatsword I really want it for mog
Pulverizer is preferred
war nerf so big this chat died haha
?
Spec is so retarded its unreal 
thats the point
@full kiln chat is dead hlf thw time alwayslike this
Squishy catto
maw rat cat
Rude.
rude
he will be bread ๐
very nice
my cat i dont see for half a week and then he suddenly wants to start career as pilliw
Yeah, I was surprised that they didn't tweak the crushing blow charge or something.
pilliw is an alt of mine 
The random burst isn't as deadly but the sustain is still there.
I dunno, random burst is also still there
Just a Tiny bit lower
And the crushing blow charge is retarded
Never should have been a thing
It's so funny.
I was trying to kite fury some time ago
Freedom cheetah, 2 laps around the pillar
The big one, on mugambala
I couldn't kite it
Just impossible
i like getting a reck proc as the hunter disengages and not having to burn charge/leap yep
Yep lol
I usually dont like it when some classes or specs can brainlessly nullify other classes kit
Craven is bad
Crushing blow is bad
Divine shield/bop usable in stun is also bad
Same with retarded rng oneshots cuz someone procced an execute at 100%
Or mortal combo etc
For any class
Or fucking 8 lava bursts in one global...
bop in stun doesnt make sense
i love mashing my cancelaura bop and the mage still gets it
"bopping the mage here" 
yes but it doesnt make any sense
bubble in stun somewhat does
but boping someone else when ur stunned
idk man
bop rips off physical shit and that's fine because it gets purged insta afterwaards and has a fuckoff long cd
Ye but it's just a "fuck you and your outplays" button
Get good cc, get good combo going
Burst popped
Enemy has no trinkets cuz they misplayed
SIKE BOP
disci tree looks really good
ah ye haven't tried disc yet this season
Has CC that's not retarded
Has heals
Absorbs
Good walls
Good anti cc that they need to use well
Solid class that imo is just fair to play with and against
Lol ye
I hope disci is strong next season
And rdruid
And shaman without dwayne
Other healers can go fuck themselves
Dwayne is retarded
Stupid passive dmg
chrys clicking dwanye 
rock ele does like 100k dmg then nothing for the next 4 minutes if u don't bang in opener
idk feels nice with high momentum comps otherwise ehh
especially bad into teams that don't clump
unless u gas pedal one person mega hard
I dont ever notice it in m+
well i dont have it enabled on plater
if i tracked that stun itd prolly be more obvious
well its not in the default CC stuff for plater
so i cba

but my plater thing in its early stages
still messing with colors/castbar emphasis etc
@sharp meteor dwayne cool
until you q into an rsham not running it
and he just makes you play w/o a lego
Itโs good
Yes
Kind of.
Sephuz into high cc and low uptime (rm), misshapen into something you think you can get big reflect value on, unhinged for 1-bangs and MAYBE signet for similar 1-bangs but really just play enduring blows 95% of the time, I think.
Gotcha. Only reason I ask is don't have unity still where I can put it on any slot that is so I had to put it enduring on helm
Enduring on Helm isnt Ideal since tier Helm is good
Yeah exactly
so i played like 3 games with a 3k+ exp warrior on my pally..and i realized something..the things he was telling me to do, never crossed my mind once..how do i get to the point where im thinking about that stuff lol
Read what d0nkey says in #810664169140518947

While this isnt end all be all its really smart
@viscid panther
ew a ping in pvp
my pride n joy right there 
How's arms feeling and are you running spear or banner
Happy 4 of July to u guys in the US
Feels like it doesn't do enough damage.
Been mostly practicing Fury lately.
40 games tonight and saw 2 warriors, I think. Interesting. Lots of dks/warlocks.
yeah warriors are on a downtrend rn
It was actually like a third rmp, a third dh/dk or dk/demo and a third jungle
With a single retwarr and fury/sp

Tier set just massively bombed
Your arms are not big enough
Duh
Good job bro, you pressed the 2 buttons in your rotation and dealt 45k in the same GCD
coughs mortal combo coughs
Based pureblood no demon pilled
how is arms warrior this season compared to fury?
Shit
Compared to almost every spec in the game
Fury is so strong its retarded
Feels like cheating to play it

nerf fury buff arms
We'll see
Not like 4set is some crazy strong shit lmao
If its only 4set nerf then it won't change much
Now just consider that the above is not RNG, but standard rotation ๐ ๐
I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Fury Warrior. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Slaughterhouse on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our Crushing Blow is mashed AND our Winbringer is in the perfect angle to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies move at all. Classes like Mage and Hunter don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Fury is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Crushing Blow charges and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing fury, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Fury Warrior because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.
The warrior's manifesto
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
If there are millions of survival hunters on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten survival hunters I am one of them. If there is only two survival hunter then that is me and Bicmex. If there are no survival hunters, that means we are no more on the Earth. If the world is against survival hunters, I am against the world.
That one only apply for bicmex tho
Ok one sec
If there are millions of cuck warriors on the ladder Karg is one of them. If the ladder has ten cuck warriors Karg is one of them. If there is only one cuck warrior then that is karg. If there are no cuck warriors, that means Karg is no more on the Earth. If the world is against cuck warrior, Karg is against the world.

@undone pumice I'm am deeply sorry for beating you in 2s, I did not intend to hurt your feelings so badly for doubleing your loss count
@elder wigeon happy 4th of july
@elder wigeon happy pride month
๐ฆ ๐บ๐ธ ๐
That's why dh fun
They specifically stated in aoe pulls
So probably just adjusting damage beyond x amount of targets
Yes, it could easily not affect PvP at all. 
fotm rerollers unaffected bc they can't kite anyway, surv shills appalled at it becoming more melee-oriented
surv is getting nerf'd?
They said it'll be getting a pve/dungeon nerf next season.
We were just speculating as to how it might potentially bleed over into pvp. 
Just nuke
ah, ok. thx
is monk or dh better atm
if ur asking don't play ww
thank you
Id be fine with it, if other skills got buffed
Rng bombs are wack
50% nerf to bomb, 30% to Raptor strike
And id be ecstatic
I could play such a cancer fucking build with it LMAO
sub hrpiest is so insanely broken
are you dumb oer
30%
might aswell give dstance 40% dr
or mortal a 30% buff
in pvp
50% nerf to bomb
Learn to read Eto
50% overall nerf to bomb in exchsnge for 30% buff for raptor
yes
Yeee dude
Mongoose bite and spam that shit from range lmao
Would be hilarious xD
they can easily manage to nuke a spec in pve and keep it amazing in pvp and vice versa
see destro
though I think they actually dont have internal testers who can play at a high enough level in pve or pvp to fully understand how their nerfs and buffs actually interact with each other
so roll of the dice
Can drastically change everything
I mean they buffed destro aoe at the start of the tier xD
I mean they've buffed already S+ tier specs multiple times throughout this and last expansion
First rbg and we get 1700mmr. All of us under 1k cr
Didn't they buff BM hunter in 9.2
And Hpriest was S-tier and then received omega healing buffs coming into 9.2
10% exe dmg for arms in 9.1 ๐ค
Almost like CR isn't MMR.
Still its idiotic.
?
its how game works
They need to change that. First game as under 1k cr against a full 1600+ team/
You have 1700 mmr why wouldn't it match you vs a 1700 team
If it's too high for you then lose until it's at a more reasonable place.
wow mmr moves pretty quickly especially in placements
You lose nothing on loss
MMR aligns your matches to be fair a lot faster than CR would
Yep. Idea is to get you to an mmr where you're winning roughly half your matches asap, and early win/loss streaks make it adjust quicker.
Although WoW is neat in that you can always winstreak or dump it whenever you want.
As opposed to other games where it's usually a little more solidified.
If you just 50/50 long enough, your MMR becomes your CR
All about the grind
ye
you guys have any websites that show spec representation over the whole season?
xunamate does class not spec
yeah ik about that one. Unfort only class as you said
not a single arms warrior on eu ladder wtf
arms is scuffed
How tf your mmr gonna do down from 1700 lol
Pretty bottom of the barrel rbg at this point
anything that's mastery I'd put into crit and go down from 24% haste to 18% so you have around 25% crit
1700 is low ot low-mid tier premade
rbgs are kind of fked ya
mastery doesn't feel great for arms when games swing on a dime
really though stats don't matter too much
do i play
kyrian
or necrolord
?
necrolord maybe better and i got used to it already
๐
iv less hp as arms and stuff
:/
Nah my buddy tried to get me to come to his 2200 rbg on my 0 cr war a couple nights ago
1700 is poop rbg
either fine
probs ya
Then play it whatโs stopping you
so am I but I'm not bored of winning so i play fury
All rbg is poop
Love waiting around for guardian simulator
True
Then you settle for a ragnaros one with no enchants and the wrong leggo
Lol
Leggo is what makes guardian a guardian
-sits on flag in bear form-
so unbelievably shit
Someone said something about the game being newer to them over there and barely any guides are in Spanish or w/e
But idk
Very true
when should i play massacre?
good question
Low uptime and/or heavy target swapping.
Basically into stuff like rogue/mage.
doubletime+warbringer or stun?
Like, you're taking it because you're like "dang my frenzy uptime is trash int his matchup", not because you're like "dang massacare would be so good here".
double time winbringer is the chad play
I swapped from kyeian arms to necro fury today and already jumped 100 cr
Depends on both comps and general playstyle.
Like I'
Fury is just better
I'm usually griefing my sham if I dont play bolt
because we don't have a stun if I dont take it
what about battle trance talent
and enduring rage
i use battle trance sometimes when no need for disarm
vs spellcleave
idk why
slaughterhouse/enduring almost every game, last talent is flex, imo default is bloodrage
if you want a tiny trickle of hp but no root break and no big rage then trance
disarm into stuff where u need disarm
warbringer charge root + burst
I play battle trance more often than enduring
i generally run disarm into all warriors lol
disarm nice into warrs ya
or rets
not ret
no t ret
psure its ok into necro rt
has ma gic damage too
mm, sub, warr are big ones
imo disarm is decent vs monks now
cuz fist hurts this season
i was testing some meme build
11k fists of fury ticks
hehehe
idk arenas way harder now then when i started feels like\
No casuals left
cuz you go up in mmr too
newbs are all dead
i qued maybe
massive noobs
glad mount doesnt mean much
sometimes i just beat them but idk
esp if its an unchained one
glad exp bro doesnt matter gu y w ill know what to do
and how to position
for sure knows more then me ๐
idk if its an alt doesnt matter
ya nothing to do after glad
pikaboo plays like a 2k player
except screw around on alts
ya psure he just mentally afks non-rogues
i mean
he can
his streaming career going so well
doesnt matter they cant win a single tourney series
the people love seeing 1500 players get snapped in half in opener
as long as it isn't them 
pretty much
i was playing monk and its a meme how i just
snap every rdruid in half in the opener
trinket tranq late
ring tranq
kill
every game
in which cases i play enduring rage+battle trance +Slaughterhause
?
When you gonna go zug mode
enduring isnt that good
enduring is good when learning
enduring or something will be more dmg for most people than warbringer although warbringer during conq/reck and signet go is quite potent
yeah people dont know how to setup dmg
anytime i see a fury do an un enraged bs im like
????
thunder is dece/good ya
hard to find good ret on finder man
most rets i played with are bads
If you play fury and nfpally. What setup should I play? Thinking signet/slaughterhouse/enduring rage/bloodrage/warbringer/double charge and if vs like sub/war/mm I go disarm stun instead 
Hey guys how is fury in pvp nowadays?
Pretty decent.
rdruid
look on the bright side
pre-sepsis change you would've been dead before the envenom : )
i cant fucking take it dude
every game to promote to 1800
every time im 1 win away
night fae assassination
survived 6 vendettas in my last attempt
just cant be beat
thats my rant ๐
cookin me that they whacked fury with a big nerf but didn't touch rogue yep
oh well to be expected
wdym they gave outlaw a love tap

you can do it friend. I got 1800 just this morning actually....as a blood elf arms warrior running unhinged lego, crit build, no sockets, only one 290 leggo ๐
assuming ur running what ur supposed to and not lazy like me u should get there
NF assassa is very beatable
Just don't psyche yourself out
how does disarm work against monk?
they cant fist
I thought it's like stun, but disarming into fists did nothing
while disarmed
i dont think you can even disarm him while hes fisting
cuz of turbo fists parry
Indeed
yeah
tho most monks still play spin
in which disarm doesnt really stop shit in that case
aight, thanks
@fickle forge its interesting tbh
is there no bedge emote?
I believe him, got slapped for 22k ticking FoF
hey, since our stun has travel time, is it possible to stop ele's lasso on you by stunning them at the same time?
by being a robot who reacts in 0.01 sec of lasso cast starting
idk prob
Just be a chad and use the .5seconds of being able to cast bladestorm while stunned
yea it is
pretty much same as reflecting lasso
just have to read it
it can be reflected?
yeah, it just bounces off

doesn't do anything cool like palpatine shock them for 5s or anything

with how many meatballs and other projectiles ele throws out it's hard af to catch but v satisfying when you do
Did you win?
idk i have this 7 recommended
what do i increase?
dont recall i was changing anything
We good?
Mud never good
joe mud : )
im increasing and decreasing this and i see no difference xd
nev good
Did u win
Or better yet did they give u tips
phil
What
phil
phil
phil
phil
phil
phil
No
cuz gladiator means rival now
phil sniping me on alts
Pillar into hearthstone op
If glad was % horde would be 2657 rn
only dedicated
battle for gilneas

m+ is no fun
Yes it is
no
my friends dont play games ๐ฆ
can confirm i have no friends m+ sucks
Make m+ friends
i dont want pve friends

mild skill issue
higher keys are for who phil
ill give you hint
it rhymes
higher keys are for _? @raw summit
Tell me
i cant i was warned already :- (
Is it a gamer word
wtf u on about man
Bro u cant say that even in dms@full kiln
i said nothing man wtf
He also said it to u?
link that +35 :P
Hey anyone have tips for dealing with frost mage / lock? at around 2600mmr and feeling really hard countered playing turbo fury
war+priest+hunter g ood ?
@artji
@artji
is there a tier list of warrior arena matchups anywhere?
luduslabs
site
has some comps
idk if this is to be trusted but
dont have anything else
demo lock ele shaman resto druid
how to win this man
stuns hexes clones
fears
wtffff
imbalanced damage too
imbalanced self healing
Unhealable healing
@fickle forge
kargish
wtf man arms is like very good i think
has this retaliation parry
you can counter rogues with it
necro arms
make go pop avatar necrobanner and perr
you cant be countered
right
?
- blocks damage
queue into an outlaw
ye
i picture arms working better against it then fury
outlaw cna counter your every go as fury
?
Yeah bro, arms is unbeatable
arms has less of a chance
cope
fury also has banner?
really?
that banner
idk tbh
No
It was
Now its sub-optimal
Its very fun to play tho
Cuz you're 50% zug zug 50% control and setup
i think any comp works until 2.1k man if you play your class properly
Since my warrior is undergeared should I stay in d-stance full time or should I be dancing between?
lol no dstance is inting
-20% dmg while undergeared u just do nothing for a few mins then lose
Yes although not every game like when we had no hp and before it was nerfed
You wanna be out of Dstance as much as possible
Oh okay
Imagine picking a talent with the goal of wanting to use it as little as possible
WTB Dbuffs
okay so lets say u dont have anything to buff your damage, and/or you're being kited
and they're doing increased dmg and/or your healer is cc'd
then you go dstance
man there needs to be less damage
in this game
this is too fast too much damage wow feels like fps game
Yes, they either should've done blanket nerfs to conduits/tier/leggos ala corruptions or given people more health. Every game is actually somebody randomly dying in 1 second.
Killed a Demo mid gate the other day from like 70% before he could wall owo
Which is chill because the game prior he demon bolted me for 55k
ye games so fast we dont get to use all buttons man
and its dumb
i dont feel reck and banner nerf cuz
big damage
still
ya killed a few dks in opener the other day
although they did run out of their earthen and healing tide 
playing with rsham 
ya so does everybody else rn
like half my queues are into unh/x LMAO
Unholy is shit
Year of the spear.
Yeah, conq/reck still good.
True gamers play frost
Lmao
anything i can do to stop that addon error windonw
disable addon/ignore
popping every game
fix ur addons or disable it with a console script
Consistently getting setups is kinda difficult but when you do it right they just die in the opener every time
Nah who cares
Unholy is a pet class
Fuck pet classes
that alone is too cringe
phik
phil
wym fix addons
i deleted
all addons i had
and redownloaded them
set all up
all over again
Lmao unh just BM with extra steps
Worse
still getting error
Cuz melee
which addon is causing it
Honestly dk pet doesn't feel anywhere near as good as demo pet
Being able to control it while ccd and axe toss people is ridiculous
?
just ignore it then and /rl
and it usually stops
I just hit ignore
so yall getting this errors
One time I accidentally hit disable add-ons and proceeded to lose super hard lol
?
Everytime I play yes
just find one that works
use dominos
bartender screws your keybinds
elvui 
:/
Any strategy advice for hpala,fury,enha 3s? We were doing ok but I was mostly just pressing w and getting bloodlust every 1 min with my CDs lol
LMAO this man straight wheezing
Idk I just bolt thing basically off dr as long as my Enh is somewhat near it
So thatโs the โgo time cueโ?
2 clicks
Iโll try that out today. I figured there would be a simple way to play a simple comp

Dear god I lolโd
Spam dam. Tricky bit is mostly just fundamental stuff like not overlapping.
Also sham and healer need to know who is healing when as healing surges at the wrong time can cost the game
So they take turns tickling my pickle all game while I eat enemy ass
Yea sounds about right
Remember to appreciate both of your healers ๐ฅฐ
The healing thing is funky because they're all so big that they can just top people so overlap is super sketchy and can result in you having to wall something.
Then if you had to wall between goes then you die to next wings/limb
Tyty โบ๏ธ
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how is fury in pvp these days
F tier
Decent-good. Underwhelming defensively. Better than Arms sooo.
always has been, arms pretty bad atm?
It has...kind of fallen off. Everything cranks 10k dps the whole game and Arms just doesn't, and can't really midigate it very well. Still fine in structured retwarr or turb, I think, though.
but in most cases it's just go fury and spam 123 into the least mobile thing
Nerfs did nothing. Fury still very good. Albeit more balanced.
But yeah no defensives.
im debating whether to level mine, always wanted to go fury
its fun


