@paper heath is in the mage cord. He has been sent here to spy on us
#pvp
elfin surge
obvi
paper heath
Is fun to play man
elfin surge
need to keep the mages in check
paper heath
A lot more fun to play than mage is rn for sure
rapid shore
warrior main since wotlk and cant see muscles :(
elfin surge
mudcles 😎
mystic barn
nerf mage
graceful quarry
mud is so strong he can almost bench a monster can
rapid shore
:D
elfin surge
mud is so strong he can almost bench a monster can
🤣
full quiver
Mud does 5000 reps of monster can curls a day
undone pumice
mud does a million reps of raging blow every day
elfin surge
girls love fury warriors cuz we got strong fingers 😉
undone pumice
fickle forge
girls love fury warriors cuz we got strong fingers 😉
She said LOL?!???!????
full kiln
i did read this
haha
you say outlaw has good defensives and bad dps and shouldnt be nerfed
and buff other classe's defensives
fickle forge
He ate the pasta 👀
undone pumice
full kiln
i think mages should be nerfed
undone pumice
Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. Warlock and mage haven’t been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry
fickle forge
Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. ...
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fickle forge
Long hair = Wamen
undone pumice
undone peak
can i spell reflect spesis from nf assassin rogue ?
elfin surge
yes and no
i dont think you can reflect it but you can spell reflect during the dot to reduce damage
near delta
elfin surge
better lore
gusty zinc
Hey all, sitting at around 1200 rating right now, been playing only arms, and focusing on vers/crit for my gear. Wanted to know if I have my stat priority right, and if I can play some fury with those same stats without majorly crippling myself
lucid walrus
you'll want haste if you have intentions of running fury
steel rune
Arms you can run both vers/crit or vers/haste it’s whatever you perfer
gusty zinc
hmm, what are the pros/cons of each?
steel rune
Auto attack crits also give you more rage but your globals are a little slower
elfin surge
@gusty zinc necro arms gets more value of haste than crit. Kyrian arms would prob want a mix of haste and crit. After vers ofc
gusty zinc
ty!
globals being slower is fine, im slow myself so its nice lol
my issue gameplay wise is I find myself getting 1 shot annihilated by dk openers
feels like die by the sword does nothing vs them and abom limb
elfin surge
haste lowers the cd of mortal strike and enduring blows is your best legendary for both covs. Thats why haste has more value this season than others.
knotty goblet
should i get conquest weapons or try buy the parts i can convert to tier sets first
sharp meteor
ya machine gun mortal strikes and mortal combo procs for more smash procs synergize nicely with tier
crit also reasonable considering games swing off a crit or two but imo the consistent play is heavy haste
gusty zinc
prob gonna play crit just cause hitting 30k mortal strikes is stupid fun
hasty crane
Pre orders are out and still no news of the warrior talent tree in Dragonflight
elfin surge
all specs get shield wall and last stand
opaque whale
Whats last stand do again
elfin surge
raw summit
Whats last stand do again
prot warrior
sharp meteor
I am going to throw up when pixie slam is a talent and conq banner isn't.
raw summit
gives u 30% max hp and thats it
sharp meteor
At least there's zero chance spear doesn't make it.
raw summit
🙏
opaque whale
Ah
opaque whale
So good
Although its kind of weird some classes just get these random abilities without the covenants
sharp meteor
Fae slam without the fae shit is going to look like a shockwave that leaves lightning on the ground aka ele/sham territory
Condem is just magic execute
Spear can be made physical
War needs more banners back
Gib skull banner
raw summit
banner>>>>>>condemn
sharp meteor
Spear and condemn are gunna continue into dragonflight
Condemn wouldn't make any sense both because it's a magic ability AND nobody plays it.
If they go for the "it's popular" route then it'll be Night Fae except pixie vfx reworked to lightning/earthquake stuff.
thematically appropriate would be be spear and then conq banner.
🙏 fingers crossed.
raw summit
NF is the only one they shouldnt add
full kiln
is ele/war viable?
full quiver
with rdruid
graceful quarry
FUCKING YES
hey rovicus
lavish ember
Not a fan of keefers because of the name. Which is a petty reason but its all I've got.
sharp meteor
what
full quiver
what's not to like about fisting people
nimble jasper
Not a fan of keefers because of the name. Which is a petty reason but its all I...
the fuck did I just read
L bozo+you play male belf
rare shell
hi can i use one handed weapons on fury instead of 2h? is it viable? it will take soo mutch time before i farm double 2h 1800conquest each;/
or should i just buy one rated weapon for now and chill farm for second
raw summit
Buy one 2h get 4p and rest then the second one
full quiver
hi can i use one handed weapons on fury instead of 2h? is it viable? it will tak...
2h is better
conquest is super fast
honor is hard part lol
lavish ember
@nimble jasper what? 😄
lavish ember
I still don't like the name.
nimble jasper
who pays attention to that shit
rare shell
Ok thanks
near delta
It is kinda weird they named a legendary after the guy from that show 24
lavish ember
All arenas opponents. Rogue, rogue, rogue, rogue..
nimble jasper
idk last time i queued it was fury warrior after fury warrior
fury mirror is literally just a slugfest
also @lavish ember arent you playing hunter
rogue should be free win
lavish ember
I main a hunter but playing war atm
With my hunter rogue is easy. Most of the time.
lavish ember
It happens
lavish ember
Not with a rogue that is allot better geared.
nimble jasper
only rogue mage is sketchy imo in general
rogue healer is free win
oh great gear 
again
if hes noticeably more geared at low mmr he sucks
lavish ember
Ran into 3 boosters in a row. Highly motivational experience. 👍
Im new to war so im bound to make mistakes.
Maybe im crazy but i notice its more difficult to get up in rating now, then previous season.
In my exprience the control rogue/mage has is a bit too much but when you get the rogue down, the mage is easy to take on.
spice hornet
Mage is immortal
nimble jasper
Maybe im crazy but i notice its more difficult to get up in rating now, then pre...
also season 2 was inflated to unholy levels
lavish ember
I might have had some luck running into to bad mages then.
Ran into one rmp whilep laying turbo and won it. won two other times in 2v2 together with a monk.
nimble jasper
i dunno
boosters in 2s
are free win usually
kill the carry
in opener
you dont run into mages with a pulse
until 2.4+
wheat jay
Easier to kill boostie than the booster
lavish ember
Ran into prot pala and feral druid. druid had 92k health. pala 126k. this was onn 1100+ rating
tall leaf
Hey, I'm looking for some advice.
Actually I'm using focus macro in v2 and work fine.
Never play a single v3 and want to give it a try. Should I use both focus and arena1/2/3 or just pick the one I'm more confortable with ?
tall leaf
Didn't think about target 1/2/3, less binds why not :p
tall leaf
I'll need to test lot a thing, gonna be a mess at start ahah
full kiln
@nimble jasperi did 12-2 at 1700 rating found myself good healer
beating your mmr on sunday
nimble jasper
sick meme
spice hornet
ur already higher than him
nimble jasper
you might be higher than my alt picking up a random 1800 max healer from lfg
nimble jasper
i mean at that rating
i just ask them to afk in the back
and not feed
some still do
full kiln
so 2.1?
full kiln
wym no reason to push man
if you are good player
you dont push\
you just play
and thats it
you push 3k rating now 2.1k bro
xd
i needto playmore often but i dont have time :- (
nimble jasper
yeah but that requires me to care enough about this dogshit season
where a 1600 rm can almost kill through prewalling
lean burrow
is outlaw just arms?
evasion -> parry
feint -> ignore pain
hook -> leap
charge -> charge
blade flurry -> sweeping
cloak -> spell reflect
lucid walrus
as far as personals are concerned it's better in almost every defensive way
hard to compare
elder wigeon
outlaw is arms if it had less burst but more survivability and utility
undone pumice
oh and no cd on defensives
lean burrow
yeah I'm loving it so far
lucid walrus
shame how the value of things like vene & duel are explicitly tied to our own durability
lean burrow
guess I'm not gonna love when it gets nerfed 
undone pumice
bold of you to assume itll get nerfed
nimble jasper
evasion aggro since cdr roll and will have it back anyway
sage raptor
is outlaw just arms?
Outlaw is a better arms
lean burrow
outlaw b+ tier decent
undone pumice
warped warren
d tier spec unplayable shit
sage raptor
Yall sounding like skillcapped tier lists lol
undone pumice
indigo barn
Win your games with this one simple trick 😫 😋 (it's pressing your damage buttons)
undone pumice
(its not losing)
sage raptor
If skillcapped put outlaw as D tier (I think) last season, it would still be D tier this season because outlul gained literally nothing except double leggos (which tbh rogue cov leggos aren't amazing) and a janky sub-par tierset. It was amazing last season but no streamers played it.
undone pumice
what the fucj are u sqying
sage raptor
Skillcapped big dumb and outlaw has been this good since season 2
undone pumice
true and prib true
lavish ember
Dammit. I get all my info from skill capped.
undone pumice
get it from discord
vernal plank
its usually pretty good especially at time of posting - just take it with a grain of salt and keep your eye on the meta
murlok.io is worth being accross
lavish ember
Think meta in 2v2 is fury, outlaw and sv hunter?
lucid walrus
advertisers playin the 5th druid spec
undone pumice
sage raptor
Dammit. I get all my info from skill capped.
I'm sorry to hear 🙏 🙏
lavish ember
@lucid walrus been reporting those druids for days and they just keep showing up.
lucid walrus
"created: 2 days ago" really rubs me the wrong way
lavish ember
nimble jasper
If skillcapped put outlaw as D tier (I think) last season, it would still be D t...
kyrian lego is the strongest thing rogue has had in awhile
so this is beyond false
also was speculating with a friend on how shadowdust had potential to be broken like 2 months before the season
The only question was if the spec had enough damage to make it worth.
lean burrow
technically outlaw also received nerfs compared to last season
it became even worse than D tier
dapper cargo
Has anyone tried to upgrade with cosmic flux pvp equipment? Which ilvl takes into account the base or pvp ilvl?
lean burrow
Has anyone tried to upgrade with cosmic flux pvp equipment? Which ilvl takes int...
what?
it's constant cost
1.5k big pieces, ~1200 smaller pieces
nimble jasper
last season outlaw was a 2s only spec and you played venthyr dreadblades
nimble jasper
same as the piece you put in
lean burrow
it will be completely the same, but with different (predetermined) stats
dapper cargo
Oh okey, thank you all 🙂
nimble jasper
which technically you can still play venthyr dreadblades outlaw
lean burrow
my man here first getting duelist and then thinking about tier pieces
nimble jasper
you just lose all the bonkers cdr that makes it an s tier spec
lean burrow
sage raptor
so this is beyond false
Wrong
nimble jasper
I literally played season 2 outlaw
ringing clarity is what enables sub dmg to be so disgusting s2 onwards
and now feeds into outlaw’s cdr loop
also nessper played but hes just not a big streamer
elfin surge
where unity
elder wigeon
on your 7th warrior
full quiver
Mirror on fury in 2s slaps
Got dumpstered by hpriest /fury on my survival because priest played ward and war had mirror. 4 stops anytime I try and trap lmao
fickle forge
Have you tried pressing P U R G E
U
R
G
E
floral ingot
tired portal
i hope for season 4 they let us use an extra leggo
spice hornet
Survival with craven, sting leggo, and pouch 
elfin surge
oink oink piggy
spice hornet
opaque whale
whats talents do u guys take into outlaw/holy
opaque whale
lmao
sharp meteor
Sip of my drink while I wait to see if my healer wants to just tag them and afk.
warped warren
spice hornet
whats talents do u guys take into outlaw/holy
the leave arena talent
because past a certain rating you arent winning
unless they dc
fickle forge
Jebait MC and pray you win the DC gamble
warped warren
wheat jay
Jebait MC and pray you win the DC gamble
Never seen enemy priest dc
wheat jay
Lool
sharp meteor
thankfully it was after he killed somebody so i reconnect and leave as the arena finished but like
it was a flat area, i didn't hit anything, didn't get displaced, mc'd or anything
charge, connect on them, get kicked offline
full quiver
lol
i can't remember exactly but i think i was charging up or down the ramp
and figured that was what bugged it, i've had some fucked up charges on that map
had one that was like double length and did 90 degree turn when monk tumbled mid charge
fickle forge
One time I made the enemy healer DC
I hit his mage for 47k Execute and then the priest DC'd
I can only replicate it occasionally
fickle forge
We didn't DC though
wheat jay
Looked like you did, hp bar changed color instantly
fickle forge
Eyo that was the 40k into 35k ToD from the WW 👀
fickle forge
50k > 40k+35k
full quiver
Wat
quasi lotus
i can't remember exactly but i think i was charging up or down the ramp
this one is more common cuz you can charge clip the ramp and get out of bounds and game kicks you
sharp meteor
Yep, I try to avoid leaping onto inclines.
sharp meteor
Daily wins in everything then just spam wins in ranked.
shut barn
got 1800 cosmic flux
need to craft double lego
and 4p
i guess i will be farming for 3 days
shut barn
i guess i have to throw some money for race change
raw summit
why
undone pumice
everything except default orc is already off meta and doesnt matter anymore
shut barn
i began with orc
i was not playing pvp this season
only played pve for first 2 month
then stopped playing
raw summit
maghars = cringe
raw summit
they cant
they have it set for skin tints
so u have 9 of them and that literally it
and like 5 haircuts including bald
raw summit
no helm
raw summit
flower crown >
sage raptor
Orcs
raw summit
lavish ember
They should rework all racials to a flavour ability. Something that doesn't affect combat.
raw summit
undone pumice
nimble jasper
<@172514678101114881>
thats what i meant
shut barn
u cant send flux right ?
nimble jasper
nope
sage raptor
what else you gonna play
Drakthyr warrior 11.0
nimble jasper
unless they gut orc hardiness
not playing orc is inting
unless you can get away with rele
as human
altho killing human warrior in the mirror who cant trinket disarm on his ER
is the funniest shit
sage raptor
I love getting hate whispers from orcs on my 2100 alts.
Alt
That racial doesn't do any good if you lose to ME. The literal worst pvper ever.
I don't even play orc
Shtinkyyy
raw summit
has nothing to do with losses osmetimes
full kiln
like
sage raptor
I agree sure
full kiln
imagine buying new expansion
when rogue can 1v2
lit as fuck
duel 1 kill another after
what is this game
haha
dude can like
duel
one shot
go stealth
sage raptor
But if you send me an angry whisper I'm gonna dog on you lol
nimble jasper
I mean yeah i did my first push as non orc
undone pumice
@full kiln
nimble jasper
when rogue can 1v2
if you get 1v2ed by a duel cheeser
you're playing terrible
you see kidney duel you trade
or just play orc sephuz and laugh as he gaps his stun and fails to get trinket even
undone pumice
full kiln
man ngl
im malding in arenas
getting so stressed
xd
like rogue goes stealth 10% hp comes back at 100%
this game is making me real mad
nimble jasper
you know you can knock him out right
I can't remember the last time I ran into a half competent rogue at your 1700 mmr
dr kidneys
slow setups
full kiln
bro
i face really good players sometimes i can tell
by their plays
for instance
few games ago played against resto druid
nimble jasper
link me one
full kiln
who was carrying
trash warrior
but druid positioned so well
cced me
20x times
restealthed
went cat form
helpt war
i can tell hes not 1.7
nimble jasper
thats basic druid gameplay for any druid that isnt a boosted by caster/hunter shitter
only difficult rdruid game I've had was playing vs dinoe
cuz man just perma restealths all game
and never dies even with feral aff
half my rdru games end in me killing the rdruid within 15 secs of him coming out
full kiln
bro when druid plays like that one last game
i know hes good
hes just helping war on alt
or whatever
full quiver
Feral aff + affli as fury was cancer
nimble jasper
Feral aff + affli as fury was cancer
q into feral druid
as a class with kleia
run immune to dots for 8 secs after phialing
on his berserk
full quiver
lol
yeah that's one thing i love about queueing arms/kyrian instead of necro fury
you can actually beat sin rogues
nimble jasper
you can beat them as pirate too 
nimble jasper
you can actually beat sin rogues
tho reminds me i was helping buddy
sin rogue sends his sepsis oneshot without a kidney first
cloak sepsis he almost 100-0s through cloak his entire go
full quiver
lol
full kiln
tell me mich
nimble jasper
depends what spec
full kiln
demo
nimble jasper
psure kicking hand of guldan cucks his damage partially
on warrior i wouldnt kick fear
nimble jasper
i played the matchup on pirate
full quiver
i guess i'm just retarded
full kiln
you are not retarded man its
nimble jasper
skill
full quiver
only thing i lose to on my survival
full quiver
is r'm
full quiver
which is hilarious
yeah i think my priority for buttons was wrong
i was trinket aegis rally
but need to trinket fear aegis rally
full kiln
what class you play disarm against
full quiver
or trinket fear disarm aegis rally
full kiln
mich
full quiver
i was thinking about that
esp on fury fist just cucks ur go anyways
they can disarm you into fist out of the disarm
and you're just donig 0 dam for 11s or w/e unless you have SB
full quiver
i have no clue what that is
nimble jasper
hit combo=6% dmg
full quiver
never played ww before
full quiver
makes sense
full kiln
i feel like
ill be
1.7 hard stuck
for eternity
ill pay boosters to carry me
and beat michs rating
nps
mystic barn
L
full quiver
if you're stuck at 1.7 on fury you need to work on your damage
full kiln
raw summit
prolly boosting
glossy island
at 2150 playing arms night far as usual redenergybar and I'm having a hard time into jungle
sharp meteor
Killing Feral feels pretty good if they aren't clean with their kiting.
Less slippery than Hunter.
I think ideally jungle is hit Hunter but they WILL eventually cause you to lose uptime and at that point you turn and hit the cat because getting dragged especially outside your own cds puts you into a bad spot.
spice hornet
Boosters holding him back
raw summit
outlaw nerf not too big of a deal i think
undone pumice
post link
lucid walrus
warrior F-tier unplayable
elder wigeon
yes
raw summit
SAD!
elder wigeon
I'm fine with fury getting nerfed
sharp meteor
Uh, I could see kyrian fury or venth rising up, especially with AM,.
I think that the nerfs are good because necro fury is obnoxious as shit
although nowhere near as the golden child who only got a minor nerf to outlaw LMAO
elder wigeon
meh am is so unfun
you get kited so easily
I'll be perma slotting arms now unfortunately
sharp meteor
Yeah, I've played mostly Kryian arms so this is fine.
twilit ridge
Yeah, I've played mostly Kryian arms so this is fine.
Gigachad
sharp meteor
kill all the fotm fury bitches second spear through regen
spice hornet
Blizz will never touch rogue damage will they
spice hornet
Lmao
sharp meteor
2 seconds off blink or w/e is fine
no rogue changes actually cooked
also dh/dk and dk/demo gonna tear up the ladder
lucid walrus
was too lazy to find the fully enhanced version
raw summit
Probably like 8
raw summit
spice hornet
I can’t wait
spice hornet
Sub rogue mains sittin back like 
sharp meteor
Yep so like 2.4 seconds off blink which also means fewer shields. Not huge but it's fine.
opaque whale
So is fury gonna be bad now lmao
mystic barn
Nearly 2 years to nerf craven
this is a vibe
elder wigeon
I think reckless abandon is going to be 100% trash now for sure
20% nerf to crushing blow is huge
raw summit
Still dashes tho
elder wigeon
not worth 1.5 min cd
indigo barn
I mean you ran it cause 4 set
obsidian loom
holy fuck these nerfs
sharp meteor
am and venth/kyrian might b chill
just wont yolo kill people with conq/reck as necro
near delta
Uh, I could see kyrian fury or venth rising up, especially with AM,.
Kyrian fury actually feels incredible as long as you don't get bamboozled
lucid walrus
i wish spear worked
elder wigeon
if it had static field totem mechanics it would work a lot better
sharp meteor
most good mages just shimmering out of it fries me
lucid walrus
exactly ya
opaque whale
Atleast mw got a better buff this time
Still doesnt address how hard it is to get heals going but it heals for more atleast
sharp meteor
mw unh and demo bout to tear the ladder apart
robust hearth
with these necro fury war nerfs are we going back to arms now?
opaque whale
Arms was already kind of holding its own or even better in 3s
Time to start maining my mw again lol
robust hearth
we finnaly get to a point where fury is fun and good in pvp and now blizzard took the fun away
robust hearth
nah they killed fury in pvp again
restive cobalt
Yea I just said the same thing, fury's fun in pvp for the first time in ages, insta nerf.
lucid walrus
"killed"
restive cobalt
So kyrian arms is the new go to for rbg?
sharp meteor
fury was stupid especially at low mmr
actually just slam 2 buttons to kill everybody in the opener
kind sail
actually just slam 2 buttons to kill everybody in the opener
The only reason they nerfed fury is cause ret warr comp
sharp meteor
The only reason they nerfed fury is cause ret warr comp
Nope?
lucid walrus
not really
kind sail
Yes, it is, withotu ret warr fury wasnt that big
lucid walrus
?
raw summit
2s mon ami
spice hornet
So kyrian arms is the new go to for rbg?
The new go to for rbgs is not playing that dogsht bracket
raw summit
for it not being a thing without ret it kinda dominated 2s didnt it
spice hornet
Only low mmr 2s
raw summit
the 2nd most played dps was fury in2s
kind sail
Blizzard literraly ignore 2s
spice hornet
After a certain 2s rating fury disappears because too many rogues
raw summit
ye playrate isnt accurate
elder wigeon
fury is really bad at 2.4 lol
raw summit
but you have to concede the point that midladder fury is a pretty strong pick
and people feeling the need to eat reck banner
restive cobalt
@spice hornet your preferred PvP bracket is dogshit 🤣
elder wigeon
yeah because it's not just outlaw survival
raw summit
and people feeling the need to eat reck banner
makes idiots complain abt it
the nerf is fair although only one of them woulda been a lot cooler
kind sail
The nerf is too much
Compare to RMP nerf
XD
Priest nerf is a joke
Mage didnt get really nerfed
lucid walrus
the hit to ray will probably be noticeable
kind sail
Tbh, im really upset, first time i can play fury in pvp high rated and now the fun is over
lucid walrus
censure/chas whatever
kind sail
the hit to ray will probably be noticeable
Most holys didnt pick ray
Fly or AntiCC is more common
lucid walrus
depends
sharp meteor
Fury is quite possibly the dumbest spec in terms of what you need to do to be effective
raw summit
fury is easier than bm hunter
kind sail
Fury is quite possibly the dumbest spec in terms of what you need to do to be ef...
DH
XD
elder wigeon
yeah fury is super low skill cap and low skill floor
sharp meteor
Nah, Havoc harder than Fury
raw summit
dh needs to keybind their stun
elder wigeon
yeah I'd say so
sharp meteor
Singular hard thing about Fury was not randomly dying
kind sail
Havoc is like that every day since launch
sharp meteor
Havoc doesn't do 15k dps for the first 20 seconds of the game
while being unpeelable outside of shit like rm
near delta
Fury is actually easier lol
raw summit
the challenge to havoc seems to not be bluring the most retarded shit
lucid walrus
the one upside to a potential shift towards kyr fury is the fact that target macros for it are gone
sharp meteor
don't get me wrong rogue needed nerfs more but fury changes are fine
raw summit
fury in raid is more difficult than pvp fury
lucid walrus
not just gonna have monkeys aimbotting spear
kind sail
Fury nerf is too much
raw summit
yes
sharp meteor
no fury can fuck off
raw summit
but its not a difficult spec
near delta
Is kyrian arms gonna be the meta now?
kind sail
I dont remember fury being good
raw summit
legionish idek
kind sail
Why do I have to play arms every fking season
lucid walrus
with fury's current iteration i'd be fine w/ it never being good again
raw summit
although arms tier set fucking blows
raw summit
fury does too much dam for the 2 buttons its pressing
near delta
Tbf, demo gets cucked if you just cc and los tyrant
mild thunder
All they needed was to nerf slaughterhouse
sharp meteor
nah fury can fuck off
mild thunder
Meanwhile sub is untouched and outlaw barely gets hit
sharp meteor
it was
kind sail
Nop
restive cobalt
But the question is kyrian arms vs kyrian fury for pvp now
restive cobalt
I'm never in the damn aoe to benefit from it
sharp meteor
were u one of those warriors who always played death sentence as arms
restive cobalt
I was lol it owned
sharp meteor
changes are fine/good
kind sail
If u just nerf the RB charge u can kite ez
restive cobalt
Ur saying that because u don't only play war lol
kind sail
If u play with ur brain
lucid walrus
the nerfs encourage playing less of RA anyway
restive cobalt
And completely switching from fury and Necro alltogether
kind sail
The only problem was uptime
lucid walrus
fury? no. necro? sure, you can swap off it now
restive cobalt
I maxed kyrian arms then went fury Necro a week ago rofl. Here we go again
I'm just hardly inside the spear aoe for the buffs in pvp
lucid walrus
if you're an rbg player the benefit of spear leggo is the tether buff anyway
its duration rather
restive cobalt
When comparing that to Ms banner buff I'd take banner anyday tho
lucid walrus
No dmg = Dead spec
its
damage
is
still
fine
btw
kind sail
its
damage
is
still
fine
btw
XD
near delta
I might have to try venth fury
kind sail
You will see 0 fury warr the next month
near delta
Although doesn't seem with since it's not even a thing in pve
kind sail
Im 10000% sure
near delta
You will see 0 fury warr the next month
That's an exaggeration lol
lucid walrus
you'll see less necro fury and more kyrian fury, sure
near delta
@elfin surge will always be fury no matter what
kind sail
That's an exaggeration lol
You know what i mean
lucid walrus
it won't affect its population much
kind sail
you'll see less necro fury and more kyrian fury, sure
No
Fury kyrian is shit
If you go kyrian you go arms
Way better
kind sail
it won't affect its population much
Yes it will
Do u remember destro nerf?
This nerf is way harder XD
lucid walrus
old trail
Why did fury/ret get nerfs but rogue/mage didnt get nerfed
raw summit
cuz thats what the devs thought deserved a change
kind sail
Im 100% sure you are not gonna see a single fury warr now
DH/DK are way better with the nerfs
And some people are talking about taking DK Warlock
lucid walrus
nerfs are too small for it to vanish
lean burrow
oh no
lucid walrus
fury is something like 30% of all melee on ladder rn
on ladder
lucid walrus
idk where you're reading anything abt 1800
kind sail
If you are nerfing without looking at rating DH is better than rogue XD
kind sail
idk where you're reading anything abt 1800
For example I said
In 2k4 + fury is not 30% of melees
restive cobalt
Idc anymore just gonna go back arms kyrian and pvp
kind sail
Idc anymore just gonna go back arms kyrian and pvp
Like every season and xpac
restive cobalt
Basically
It's a problem when warriors do good, but leave dh, dk, rmp op for full expansions
lucid walrus
20%* still way more played
kind sail
Idk why people are okay with killing specs
demon 26%
Holy 46%
demon got buffed
holy nerf has 0 impact
Whats ur point?
Mage 20% no nerfs
eh
lucid walrus
my point isn't that representation = deserving of nerfs, it's that these changes are too small for fury to lose its spot as one of the top picked melee
kind sail
Do u remember destro nerfs?
Nobody plays destro after that
Fury is gonna have the same destiny
mild thunder
fury will definitely be played a fair bit less
kind sail
Everyone is gonna swap to arms
kind sail
Why are u gonna play fury now?
Dh has more dmg, utililty, mobility, defensives....
XD
raw summit
Because im a main warrior not a dh
kind sail
And if u want pop dmg pick arms kyrian now
lucid walrus
Because im a main warrior not a dh
👆
kind sail
I dont really know why you are happy with every warrior being arms
Fury deserved nerfs, but not to be killed
lucid walrus
it's simply not dead
kind sail
I was very happy that I could play both specs in hight rating for the first time
raw summit
We havent even tried it
lucid walrus
changes aren't even live yet yeah
raw summit
Odds are its fine
raw summit
Out of interest though
What's your opinions on the previous fury nerf
Was that too much aswell?
raw summit
Ye
kind sail
3 sec less burst
raw summit
And the honor talent thing
raw summit
Reasonable take 
I asked this to get a feeling if you overreact but that seems like a completely fair Assessment to me
kind sail
Just do the maths if u dont belive me, sims ur dps and take 20% less dmg on BW and 33% on banner
Fury is really dead
mystic barn
blaze coming with the hot take of dk being op all expansion
raw summit
But it was so much damage to begin with that it might just be enough
mystic barn
selective memory of arms being busted for 2 ssns
opaque whale
20% and 33% is huge lol
raw summit
Which is what we currently dont know
kind sail
Dmg is not everything in the game, but it is all fury had
raw summit
Fury only was lacking parry
restive cobalt
@mystic barn I didn't say dk op any specific xpac, but it was op for awhile after multiple xpacs. Also just came back. Who knows when arms was op recently that's why I didn't speak on it
mystic barn
ah yes
op for awhile after wotlk
like 10 yrs ago
arms was op for 2 yrs
up until like 3 months ago lel
restive cobalt
It was also op in bfa first half of the season before I quit. Care to continue?
restive cobalt
It's been op for awhile was my point
mystic barn
yea ssn 2 year+ long ssn very op
restive cobalt
It was op in legion, op in cata, op in bfa. totally relevant
mystic barn
🥴
restive cobalt
I haven't played SL till a month ago. Arms was op, cool.
raw summit
Is that new
restive cobalt
If anything deserved big nerfs it's rmp
kind sail
If anything deserved big nerfs it's rmp
DB is the most broken ability in the game
And they are not gonna change it never and ever
mystic barn
db should dr polly
kind sail
Ye
And imo they should nerf the off-healing of hardly every class
I dont think that dps healing as much as healers are a good design
mystic barn
mage isnt even a hybrid class but has the 'healing' of a healer
spark dune
near delta
mage isnt even a hybrid class but has the 'healing' of a healer
Mage with more healing than almost every hybrid
elder wigeon
???
sage raptor
!!!
wet scarab
