pvp

[nimble jasper]

is rdruids

they're either good

or giga boosted

no in between

[elder wigeon]

I play orc sephuz into outlaw in 2's

still disgusting

[nimble jasper]

orc sephuz tilts sub more

doesnt it

idk why NA priests dont play more kyrian in 2s

boon is disgust

[elder wigeon]

yeah idk the damage during it is unreal

[nimble jasper]

i feel venthyr's only good

into double dps hybrid

[full quiver]

Hadn't queued in 2 weeks cause or covid

Log on to do some 2s games with buddy who also hasn't queued

Queue into resune first game lmao

[undone pumice]

kek

[nimble jasper]

free win?

[full quiver]

Lol he clapped me I was on hunter

Although I'm sure queueing fury into arms/mw would be even more aids

[thick reef]

i finally got everything looking good on my warrior

😄

[thick reef]

ty for all the tips ive become better now 😄

[elder wigeon]

np

[thick reef]

with banner etc now

[full quiver]

kyrian boomy / fury feels good

[elder wigeon]

yup

[spice hornet]

Playing double DPS 2s (non rogue mage) hs been so unfun this season because of vrnthyr holy priest

10 sec mind games debuff

[weak oyster]

can anyone send me pic of best conduit

cuz i didnt find in the pined

[simple rock]

@weak oyster https://murlok.io/warrior

[zinc coral]

is pressing ignore pain worth as fury?

[elder wigeon]

sometimes yeah for sure

but nowhere near as much as arms

you really need that rage for rampages

[vital prism]

Yo, this season when comparing dk to warrior, which class seems superior?

[wheat jay]

both are around equal

[vital prism]

Ah ok.

fury is most popular for pvp atm right?

[wheat jay]

yes

[undone pumice]

🐎

[signal sequoia]

What is the best legendary to pick for fury if 2s as double dps?

[undone pumice]

siget

[lean burrow]

another teapot

[signal sequoia]

Is there any other Teapot? 🍵

[lean burrow]

yeah there's five of them

[undone pumice]

@sharp meteor

amogu

sus

[lean burrow]

[fickle forge]

Amogus

[opaque whale]

god fighting beast mastery is so fucking stupid

[fickle forge]

Just kill him?

Izi

[full quiver]

Watched my buddy play cupid 2.1-2.2 no comms last night

Didn't get targeted a single game just doing hid pve rotation and won on second trap almost every game lol

[gloomy hamlet]

how do u feel about fighting outlaw rogues

[jovial meteor]

quickest way to get tormented kings? been in raider finder for hours

is it a 100% drop rate too?

[gloomy hamlet]

tormented kings

buy for like 600 cinder

or cosmic fllux or artefact research from korthia

there's a vendor in haven

[fickle forge]

Bit weird right? It's prio to target all the plate classes over all the leather ones

[lucid walrus]

uhm akshully hunter is mail🤓

[fickle forge]

🤓

[lucid walrus]

sorry i was possessed by a rogue for a sec

[fickle forge]

Don't hit mage, rogue, hunter, shaman, DH or druid, go for DK, ret or warr

[undone pumice]

me when squishy leathie and clothie tankier than platey

[fickle forge]

That particular game vs Trimaz and Cysbb RMP

We slayed Cysbb on his mage 4 fucking times

Before he died for real

[lucid walrus]

tfw armored shouting biceps fighter squishier than effeminate jesuit

[fickle forge]

Source tells me you're just mentally weak bro
https://clips.twitch.tv/VivaciousRespectfulCiderBibleThump-xNYTpV6Is2kIPl8l

[lucid walrus]

unironically he’s almost right

virgin victimhood mindset

[fickle forge]

Almost

But he also doesn't achknowledge at all that RMP potential is just twice as big as the 2nd in-line comp

Even if they're arguably the best players in the world

[lucid walrus]

he doesn’t mention how horrific it was watching this AWC cycle either

[full quiver]

Lol

Don't go for demo go for ele

[lucid walrus]

that had to have been one of the least varied circuits ever

[viscid bluff]

I wanna get glad mount but I'm too bad

[near delta]

Lmao

[lucid walrus]

see above

[lucid walrus]

.

[near delta]

Man's has lost like 10 games all season and he's still comparing other non rmp specs should be nerfed cause he lost to them once on ladder

[viscid bluff]

What should I play

[lucid walrus]

wdym

[full quiver]

Rogue

[lucid walrus]

spec? comp? class?

[full quiver]

Apparently

Why is outlaw rogue tankier than arms warrior

[near delta]

Pirates bro. Resilient dudes

[viscid bluff]

I'm a warrior

Mainly

[lucid walrus]

spec with farmable 30% wall, magic immunity and full dodge btw

[lucid walrus]

ret/war or turbo prolly ur best options for aping out

[viscid bluff]

Where do I find people for that, no one's gonna want to do shit with me

[lucid walrus]

idk. i just lfg once in a blue moon, don’t tilt and very rarely do something smart & it gets me btags

[viscid bluff]

is fury good?

[lucid walrus]

it’s preferred over arms unless you’re playing with a hybrid

[sharp meteor]

ya

[lucid walrus]

but yes it’s good in the first place

[viscid bluff]

I have pve gear on atm

Gonna have to get pvp trinkets

[lucid walrus]

honor trinkets are fine until you have the spare conq for em tbh

if you have tier on helm & shoulders then fortunately you have a little bump to vers already

[lean burrow]

is this the best class server?

I rarely read dk and paladin servers, they don't seem as active/good

[fickle forge]

Go ele, stop 0 dmg cause it's all instant and continue to get dicked by his 9k dps 😎 👍

[warped warren]

go ele

kill him

🤧

[wheat jay]

ye they only had 94% winrate

at #1 ladder

highest mmr

[fickle forge]

3k and 94% win rate

You're just mentally weak bro

[warped warren]

:kekw

[raw summit]

I can queue a game or two with my hpal once it has some honor but i cant guarantee anything since im not a good hpal

[full quiver]

Lol yeah kick every spell

Have 1 kick at end of 3 min game ???

[viscid bluff]

That would be nice

[sharp meteor]

I dislike how the onuce has shifted away from the rmp being good and the other team having to outplay the rmp.

Like, rmp always being able to win is one thing, but every team having to massively outplay them just to live and have another chance at killing the tank comp before their next go is just too much.

Losing to mana at 9 minutes into rmp is stupid.

Unironically one overlap is death into rmp, whereas they have enough buttons to have multiple.

Or you queue some shit like rdruid turb that actually has zero buttons and you have to pre each go which isn't reliable, whereas they just 321 reliable setup off dr until they win or lose.

[fickle forge]

You're just mentally weak dude

[undone pumice]

like what do ueven do to fix rmp? remove their defensives?

[full quiver]

Lol

Would love to fight whaz irl then tell him his mental is weak

[sharp meteor]

-incoherently rambles about rmp being bullshit-

[fickle forge]

Yes

[sharp meteor]

They just have so many tools to kite damage, this is why nerfing mage shields hasn't done anything.

Disarm and Duel need to go.

[raw summit]

Wait actually i dont even have a unity nor a 291 on the char

[sharp meteor]

Spear mage? Ray. Alter. Dragon's Breath. Duel. Disarm.

[viscid bluff]

then get them

[fickle forge]

RMP was relatively easy to oom and you weren't ever in danger outside their setups a couple seasons ago

Plus their setups weren't literally instant

[undone pumice]

should rmp live more than 5 minutes?

[fickle forge]

Plus they have access to the most 'cheat death' mechanics in the game

[undone pumice]

doesnt mage actually literally have two

[sharp meteor]

The light that burns twice as bright should burn half as long.

RMP being this super lethal comp that kills in setups is fine/good.

[lucid walrus]

with seed i guess, ya

[fickle forge]

Cauterize
Ice Block
Seed
Alter Time if your team doesn't have purge

[sharp meteor]

It just can't be able to live for as long as it does.

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

Plus 1 minute grip.

Duel, Disarm.

Dragon's Breath.

[fickle forge]

And rogue can cover seed super well

[sharp meteor]

Like brother I swear 99% of rmp losses are them just not having hands.

No other comp is quite like that

[undone pumice]

ah so 4

[fickle forge]

Ye, and then Hpriest gives a 5th 😎 👍

[sharp meteor]

Most comps it's like dang we're out of buttons rm you actually just have so many

[undone pumice]

meanwhile warr defensive: parry

[fickle forge]

That's most classes

[sharp meteor]

Rogue has a kit from next expansion

it's like bro look at all these buttons

outlaw especially

legit more shit than you know what to do with

just rando blind a dps fuck it why not

[undone pumice]

from range

[raw summit]

I dont really wanna farm 30k flux if im not even done with the shaman yet

[viscid bluff]

true

understadanble

What are some good fps games

[raw summit]

Nice segway

[viscid bluff]

lmao

[raw summit]

Bloons td6 is good

[undone pumice]

chivalry 2

@viscid bluff

[viscid bluff]

Nevr heard of that

[raw summit]

Now you have

[sharp meteor]

The cycle continues.

[raw summit]

Im guessing stats are crit vers

But idek

[undone pumice]

what slot unity

reckless defense on chest and unity on hands?

[opaque whale]

why reckless defense

[raw summit]

Hey guyse what weapon do i go

1h sword or dagger

[wheat jay]

dogshit players go for fotm for slightest chance of winning

[sharp meteor]

I'm not a fan of how they made glad easier then acc-wide.

Old drakes acc-wide sure but new ones should've been char specific or something.

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaan

right now glad is actually quite hard

isn't 2500 like 0.5% of players?

[sharp meteor]

Maybe on EU where they didn't fuck up mmr.

[wheat jay]

oh

lmao ye na is on easy mode now

[undone pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

blizzard fucking up everything each expansion

[wheat jay]

na be like, oh no they fucked up the mmr

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595315287654531096/934860066094481438/image0.gif

[sharp meteor]

It was literally day one and they could've easily just reset everybody. Normies hadn't even queued yet.

[wheat jay]

yep

[sharp meteor]

I get that they really hate to reset peoples progress or w/e but it would've been 0-800 rating at most for like 99% of people

[wheat jay]

you say that

but they reset mmr in the middle of season one

and r1 was impossible to get for most r1 level players that tried to get it after the reset

cuz everyone was just sitting

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I currently queue with somebody who sat their rating for like 5 months to get a title.

Crazy participation s1 so I can understand why they rugged mmr although it did have certain consequences

[wheat jay]

ye

also funny how participation was so high

and shadowlands had the best start since what, wotlk?

with the highest participation in pvp and pve

and it died in like 3-4 months cuz of system restrictions xD

[sage raptor]

If the expansion stayed as good as it did on launch minus the disconnects, I think it would've been one of the best expansions.

[sharp meteor]

Wishin they kept the good pve gear in, that was funny

People actually going bald trying to figure out how they were going to afford a duelist carry for their 8 alts so they'd be competitive in +9s and their normal raid guild

[wheat jay]

lmao ye

that was funny

but also not healthy for the game

[fickle forge]

Rerolldogo

[sharp meteor]

Just spent an entire expansion doing PvE for PVP gear. Keystone toddlers couldn't last a single tier.

Also people whose guilds would've imploded on Stone Legion pretending that having PVP gear would've helped.

[fickle forge]

PvE'ers having to farm PvP - Big nono!
PvP'ers literally having to spend 4 seasons farming 12 PvE pieces for their PvP set - 😎 👍

[sharp meteor]

Oh, well. Game died anyways.

Curious to see how Dragonlands goes.

[fickle forge]

Doomerpot

[sharp meteor]

And if they ignore feedback until a year into the expansion like they did with SL

No you can't swap covenants that'd be too convenient

[fickle forge]

Supposedly

No systems in DF

Supposedly<<

[near delta]

That's called harassment according to Holinka

[fickle forge]

I mean

I meeaaaan

Was that really what the man said though?

[wheat jay]

i mean

[near delta]

No not at all I'm being an asshole lol

[wheat jay]

looks like there is nothing to fuck up in dragonflight

unless they change what they already said

no ranks on pvp gear

no systems

no covenants

no locks on anything

[fickle forge]

"Being nice makes people wanna talk to you"

Literally 50% of the community: HOLINKA SAYS WE GET NO ANSWERS CAUSE OF HARASSMENT

😎 👍

[sharp meteor]

I mean people are shitheads but people became shitheads because the devs made adjustments every 8 months.

[near delta]

He had an example in the twitter comments and it was like "X should be fired for y feature"

And it's like yeah that's toxic

But also whoever came up with echoing resolve should get a demerit or something

[sharp meteor]

I don't know why they don't just ambiently filter that stuff out.

If you pick through a pile of 50,00 comments there's going to be a "kys" in there somewhere.

Even if the op is just a picture of a cat.

[near delta]

lmao

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah for sure

[sharp meteor]

It's like actively looking for something to be upset about.

[fickle forge]

You have to filter out

[near delta]

It's hard though when you're that overworked

[fickle forge]

But it's more how a bunch of people act like Holinka just spoke on the behalf of the entire company on the matter of why devs are silent

[near delta]

Cause like he's not even the pvp guy anymore he has a ton of other stuff to worry about

[near delta]

That's because people are idiots

[fickle forge]

He's still in charge of the main PvP content no?

[near delta]

He is.

[fickle forge]

I mean I like him generally when he's on interview

[near delta]

They should have a person for whom that's their sole responsibility or something imo

[wheat jay]

nah

he rarely says something that's actually a good, full, no bullshit answer

[fickle forge]

Like what?

[sharp meteor]

I swear PvP and Arena could be so cool if they don't bungle things in Dragonflight, especially with the UI update.

Less reliance on addons is always super nice.

[near delta]

Stonks are so high

[fickle forge]

So were they coming into SL

[wheat jay]

am i supposed to remember his every word?

[fickle forge]

I have no expectations

[sharp meteor]

Like no chance they don't bungle it but I'm hopeful

[fickle forge]

No, but just 1 example is good

[wheat jay]

no

[fickle forge]

Ah okay

Thanks for trying though

[wheat jay]

O_O you could try good spec too ya know?

[near delta]

I don't trust the people making changes since they nerfed an enh pvp talent that almost no one ever takes in a way that made no sense at all

Like it was bewildering

[fickle forge]

Was it the thunder link thing?

BFA

[near delta]

They nerfed ethereal form

By 1 second

lol

From 15 to 14

Cause sitting doing absolutely nothing for 15 second was OP

[tough sonnet]

anyone here good with threat plates?

https://i.imgur.com/uNarHUu.png

i imported bajheera's tp profile but then it isnt showing the bars above enemies head as the plate at all?

[wheat jay]

yes, you are the impostor

[tough sonnet]

this is all it shows

[wheat jay]

wrong channel for that

go #ui-addons-manager

you're gonna get better answers there

[tough sonnet]

ok

[fickle forge]

Am I though?

[wheat jay]

yes

you are

cuz arms

[fickle forge]

Have you tried hitting /cancelaura Blessing of Protection?

My conq banner and Warbreaker would love it

[wheat jay]

no

break it yourself

[fickle forge]

Was gonna until the mage sneezed on me

[wheat jay]

too bad

mage sneezes are too strong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8uaFTQ6-_I

[lucid walrus]

only immune to phys damage btw

these poor shamans really gotta watch out for lumberjack huh

[lavish ember]

This question probably has been asked before but which is better dw 1h or 2h for fury?

[sharp meteor]

2h every time

[near delta]

Right lol just cc yourself out of the game brilliant

[sharp meteor]

can be fine if the go is committed on them

[near delta]

Yeah not bad

[sharp meteor]

example being kyrian arrow

[near delta]

Just don't get the nerf really

[sharp meteor]

yeah idk

and what was the other thing

static cling?

the link one

[near delta]

Umm not sure

[sharp meteor]

can't remember the name, but got pruned

[fickle forge]

Jungle counters RMP 😎 👍

[wheat jay]

2:1 for myway tho O_O

[fickle forge]

Jungle

Counters

RMP

Don't be mentally weak

[wheat jay]

ah right

i forgot

[near delta]

MyWay went from reverse sweeping Kungarna in the final last year to losing to random fotm RMPs

They obviously got way worse at the game

[wheat jay]

ye

not like rmp is god tier

again

[fickle forge]

Stop being mentally weak?

Also why is it 2:2 now huh? @wheat jay

[near delta]

Whaazz be like. "They were able to get my evasion on the 2nd go. Really need to nerf feral frenzy."

[warped warren]

bugs

[wheat jay]

cuz rmp is broken beyond reason

[near delta]

MyWay just forgot how to beat RMP in 8 months

[fickle forge]

Have you tried strengthening your mental game?

It's funny how Whaazz described it as him not being delusional, when it's complete delusion

[near delta]

Did you see Kalvish said the same thing in his vid?

Although the way they got clocked by Kawhi maybe he's not wrong

[fickle forge]

Do show

[wheat jay]

kalvish saying that people need to fix their positioning

and rmp suddenly becomes much easier

[near delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNnDF3eWv4

Just be literally the best team in NA for the past 3 years and RMP is easy

[wheat jay]

no cooldowns used from bugs

they didnt use their defensives

no cauterize, no block

smh

[nimble jasper]

i mean whaazz did say

every team just chokes when they see them on the matchup

[wheat jay]

ye that's whaaz

[fickle forge]

So what about all the other RMPs?

[wheat jay]

so its understandable

but there's hundreds of rmps

[nimble jasper]

granted there is the point that kawhi hasnt lost yet

playing outlaw sp and ret rogue

[wheat jay]

kawhi is na?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[wheat jay]

ret/rogue might have some chance

[near delta]

Scooby being the outlaw rmp counter would be hilarious

[nimble jasper]

altho ven's point about

outlaw barely being on ladder

is interesting

[fickle forge]

They're all busy farming 2s

[nimble jasper]

you just proven my point

tho

[fickle forge]

That it's barely on ladder?

[nimble jasper]

3%

would count as barely

yes

[fickle forge]

Then I don't get your point

[thick reef]

lol

[fickle forge]

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with Ven?

[nimble jasper]

basically agreeing

ladder is just

ret war

[fickle forge]

Yah then we all do

[nimble jasper]

out the asshole

[wheat jay]

3s 2400+

[thick reef]

Hey mich guess what

[fickle forge]

Can we talk about how 2s arms is having almost the same rep as 2s enh sham though?

[nimble jasper]

why play arms

when you can play RA charge spam

[fickle forge]

To preserve your lifts

[wheat jay]

top 10 of rogues, 4 are outlaw

[nimble jasper]

fury is basically

bm hunter

[near delta]

Fury is way too close to cardio. Can't be doing that

[fickle forge]

BM hunter with no trap

[wheat jay]

but with better dmg

[fickle forge]

It is cardio in its purest form

[wheat jay]

higher burst

better peels

[nimble jasper]

outlaw 2s is like

why are all the cringeys

playing cdr

in 2s

[wheat jay]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

rogues in NA

[fickle forge]

MLX winning on opener

Nice

[near delta]

Delirium eeeeesh

[fickle forge]

30 sec game

[nimble jasper]

all that SS shows

is tourney players

know whats good

lol

[raw summit]

@nimble jasper trill could get 285 rygelon dagger on his rogue easily

Worth?

[wheat jay]

well, obviously

[raw summit]

[wheat jay]

but it also shows that low rep doesn't mean something is bad

[nimble jasper]

its extremely marginal

psure

[wheat jay]

unless its arms

@fickle forge

[nimble jasper]

yeah but it goes to ven's point

how do you look at it

from blizz balancing pov

when tourney is all outlaw

but ladder isnt

[raw summit]

But at least

Axe holy priest

[wheat jay]

for nerfs, look at tourney first imo

if every game has an outlaw

or two

[raw summit]

Because that's obviously over represented in both formats

[nimble jasper]

holy priest dominating both the live game

[wheat jay]

then nerf outlaw

[nimble jasper]

and tourney

yet not getting nerfed

xd

[wheat jay]

cuz shadowlands is over

its 10.0 waiting room

don't expect any more changes

maybe small changes in 9.2.5

MAYBE

[nimble jasper]

ngl

[raw summit]

Cope

[nimble jasper]

i can see fury eating a nerf before outlaw

just b/c random 1600 healer

[raw summit]

Ya obviously

[nimble jasper]

sits reck banner

[wheat jay]

ye, thats big maybe tho lmao

[nimble jasper]

and dies

[wheat jay]

ok but thats 1600

pvp should not be balanced around 1600 lol

[nimble jasper]

ideally

but you know how this game goes

[raw summit]

WDYMMMMM I CANT EAT THESE COOLDOWNS WAAHGHHHH4 😭 😭 😭

[wheat jay]

you balance around top, cuz lower brackets are full of shitters

[nimble jasper]

the game is primarily shitters

thats the issue

[wheat jay]

start balancing from top 0.5%

[nimble jasper]

like when i see raid nerfs

for mechanics that are

"use your eyes"

[raw summit]

Well this raid was stupid

They killed bosses with 275 and 4 set

No outgearing to be had

[wheat jay]

ye

CE this tier is participation reward xD

[nimble jasper]

not yet surprisingly

only 210 guilds

worldwide

[raw summit]

Yea im still inbetween guilds rn trialing one but they kinda suck

Fixing logs then try get better guild ig

[nimble jasper]

mage not nerfed i suspect

is because your avg shitter mage

is so unimpactful

[raw summit]

You should put qvicks warrior vs trills Outlaw or something

And have him not be able to play the game for so long

Until he deletes the spec

[wheat jay]

trill vs qwik

and they both have healer

but it only ends when qwik kill trill

trill can't kill him, can only bring him to like 10%

dude delirium is being bullied so hard now lol

[fickle forge]

I'll live right guys? 🤓

[raw summit]

simply a skill issue on the dks part

[fickle forge]

?

[raw summit]

Didnt get the memo

[wheat jay]

squarletx forgetting to respec

[warped warren]

lmao

[lean burrow]

is it omnicd?

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[spice hornet]

Every time I tune in to watch awc for a lil it’s rmp or double outlaw

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I'm going to need a pet or transmog item to actually willingly open the AWC stream.

[wheat jay]

Outlaw unholy winning against best na rmp

Lmao

[near delta]

Outlaw is the new arms warr lol

[sharp meteor]

I been saying outlaw best generalist melee

literally play it with anything and nobody on your team can die

[wheat jay]

Lmao it is

Less damage tho

And more control

[sharp meteor]

More durable, more control

[near delta]

What do you even call Unholy/Outlaw lol

Ah is that kanye cleave?

[wheat jay]

Its the "please let this work against rmp" cleave

[near delta]

Apparently the key to beating RMP is bring some random ass comp no one ever plays

[warped warren]

lmao

[spice hornet]

Lol yeah they don’t have a script for it

[wheat jay]

Bring some random Comp made out of strong specs

Pray for good results

[lean burrow]

outlaw is so much harder

[near delta]

Is it? lol

[wheat jay]

I dont think its hard

Mostly due to the fact that its cooldowns are between 20 and 40 seconds

And even if you waste them between enemy goes, you'll still have them back for the next go lol

Doing dmg is easy on any class too

And its easier to survive on it since you have shitton of passives and feiint with negative cooldown

[spice hornet]

Sometimes I log on my alt rogue and stare at the feint ability compared to enraged regen

[near delta]

Also you do the biggest aoe ever by just pressing blade fury on CD

[spice hornet]

Gives me depression

[near delta]

It's ridiculous lmao

Even sub is arguably tankier than warr

[misty hawk]

Outside of big goes are you all able to keep slaughterhouse at max stacks?

[raw summit]

Yes

[fickle forge]

Smokebomb cleave was the original name

[spice hornet]

I’ve heard anal bomb cleave

[nimble jasper]

smokebomb was assa dk psure

[fickle forge]

It was rogue+DK at least

[nimble jasper]

c9 worst team

in this entire circuit

geez

ermm gg

[wheat jay]

Excuse me

Delirium

[nimble jasper]

i dont recall whos delirium

three and a half men should have locked in bm jungle

into dk

[wheat jay]

Delirium is eu team

[fickle forge]

Qweener

Ret+warr one tricks

[near delta]

I don't get why gg doesn't really do cross cc lol

I guess sterge just not comfortable on the priest

[nimble jasper]

onetrick pony team

only diff is gg has an org

[near delta]

It's kinda ridiculous gg has an org and Kawhi doesn't lol

[nimble jasper]

prev already a better sp

than wiz at this pt

and hes playing an alt

[raw summit]

They have clout

[nimble jasper]

also hes aussie so

idk if hes playing these games

on 200 ping

[near delta]

So is Drake lol

[nimble jasper]

yeah

ceral plays mage and enhance

iirc

[wheat jay]

Gg overlapping defensives every go

[nimble jasper]

idk whats the point

of a top 4

when kawhi takes it all

regardless

[wheat jay]

Waiting for na vs eu

That's gonna be so good

Gonna just be kungarna vs some na team

The one that kills rmp best

[near delta]

Kawhi is much closer to the rest of the NA field compared to Kungarna and EU imo

[nimble jasper]

whaaazz basically convinced

every eu team just loses nerves vs them

and throws

[raw summit]

That's not wrong tho

[turbid sparrow]

Not sure if PVP FAQ has been updated since 9.2 so are arms and fury about equal or does one spec outshine the other?

[raw summit]

Ur arguably facing the best rmp in the world

Fury better

[elder wigeon]

fury is a letter grade above arms in every comp except ret war and turbo, they're about equal

[turbid sparrow]

Got it, thanks!

[wheat jay]

I dont think teams like swapxy+blizo+lontar lose their nerve lol

Rmp is just beyond broken and whaaz is delusional

[raw summit]

I uh mightve forgotten abt lontar

[wheat jay]

Haha

Lontar would never lose a nerve cuz man's too calm

[elder wigeon]

rmp being broken only inflates their egos more which is already inflated by them thinking they're gods outplaying everyone all the time, their egos keep them from seeing how overwhelmingly broken the comp is

[wheat jay]

Too depressed to feel any stress

[atomic gale]

how do i play into outlaw at like 2400-2500 in 2s?

[elder wigeon]

you don't

[wheat jay]

You die

[atomic gale]

it is so depressing

[nimble jasper]

survival outlaw bracket

[wheat jay]

Try to oneshot something

[raw summit]

So what you do is oneshot healer

[nimble jasper]

at that point

[raw summit]

[wheat jay]

Pray they fuck up so hard not even their kit is enough to win the game

[elder wigeon]

outlaw can only die in a stun and their healer can't die because kidney kidney disarm blind gouge

[atomic gale]

one shot a holy priest

[raw summit]

Ikr it's horrid

[wheat jay]

2s in a nutshell really

[nimble jasper]

best part about outlaw

is soccer balling

the enemy healer

heh

[wheat jay]

So

[nimble jasper]

healers just

eating an 8yd range kick

on cd

[near delta]

That would actually be hilarious if they just got crushed by all the NA teams

[wheat jay]

Are you ready for 10.0 and "outlaw needs buffs, I was 2600 last season, cant get 1600 now, wtf Blizzard" forum posts?

[nimble jasper]

its gonna be

a kawhi vs kungarna finals

[wheat jay]

Probably

Didnt kawhi lose to Scooby doo cleave tho?

[near delta]

Nah they're the only ones that have run it

[nimble jasper]

they played scoob

[nimble jasper]

rolled cdr in opener

press evasion first gcd

cuz doesnt matter

yolo

[near delta]

They'll probably queue it into kungarna

I'm curious what wtf comp Liquid comes up with in the next couple weeks

[nimble jasper]

honestly who knows

kungarna is miles ahead

of every na rmp

[wheat jay]

Myway got fucking blasted 3:0 by kungarna

And they won agaisnt them last season

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay
https://twitter.com/cdew_wow/status/1538632770011947008

Liquid Cdew (@cdew_wow)

LETS FUCKING GO BABY! DADS GET IT DONE ON FATHERS DAY!!!! HAD NO CONDUITS FIRST 2 GAMES. HAD TO MAKE SURE I DIDNT THROW THIS SERIES FOR THE BOYS!!!! MES IS A GOD

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Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 9:20 PM

[nimble jasper]

would not be surprised if whaazz just queues sub

and kills cdew in opener

[near delta]

MyWay literally lost to multiple FOTM RMP reroll teams

[nimble jasper]

if that kind of match ever happened

[near delta]

As one of the best jungles in the world

[wheat jay]

Lmao

When shit hits the fan, bring out the Mes

[nimble jasper]

3 and a half men also trolling

[near delta]

wow lol

[nimble jasper]

not just playing bm jungle

into dk

[wheat jay]

https://c.tenor.com/LxWytcK4u-8AAAAM/clash-of-the-titans-kraken.gif

[nimble jasper]

whats a dk gonna do

about bm and feral

running at them

[fickle forge]

Die

[wheat jay]

Die

[nimble jasper]

yeah exactly

[wheat jay]

Dk flops to jungle

But i meant today's games

[nimble jasper]

they decided to just lose 3

[wheat jay]

And how Mes carried hard

[nimble jasper]

as rmp tho

idk its jungle and fuse is a really good feral

and bm is well

just exist

maybe throw a trap

here and there

and pve

[wheat jay]

Lol

I think its gonna be either kawhi vs kungarna or that's Scooby doo with brain vs kungarna

[fickle forge]

Need to slay the raid boss

[wheat jay]

100 parse in arena lmao

[nimble jasper]

idk

if scooby would work vs kungarna rmp

[wheat jay]

Who knows

Looked the most consistent against rmp

Jungle has no chance, ret/warr too

[nimble jasper]

its just the level

psure most of kungarna’s games

didnt last more than 3mins

vs most teams

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz they do disgusting dmg and outplay the fuck out of everyone lmao

Best players playing the best comp

[fickle forge]

"RMP isn't broken, you're mentally weak" - 21-1 RMP player

"Money doesn't matter, you're mentally weak in life" - Rich people

[wheat jay]

Raiku's mage is just doing more damage than anyone else

[nimble jasper]

i mean even if rmp wasnt giga s tier

they’d prob only lose games

to sk gaming

maybe myway

[wheat jay]

Lf org

[fickle forge]

Raiku said on interview they practiced war games from 6 PM to 3 AM every day

[wheat jay]

Lf org had some good wins against rmp trans

[nimble jasper]

meanwhile

[wheat jay]

Wtf

[nimble jasper]

GG gets drunk

[fickle forge]

Ye

[nimble jasper]

before a series

[wheat jay]

Are they sick in the head?

[nimble jasper]

or stays up playing fall guys

[near delta]

Just get a small loan of a million dollars from your dad and you're good to go. God it's so easy.

[fickle forge]

It's their life bro

[wheat jay]

Nah, pikaboo plays all the time

[nimble jasper]

the rest of the team

[wheat jay]

Deatroying 1600mmr

[nimble jasper]

just gets drunk

or something

[wheat jay]

[nimble jasper]

kawhi prob also practices alot

[near delta]

Thought that was interesting chas saying they wargame with the NA teams

[fickle forge]

I betya Whaazz and Raiku practice 12+ hours a day

[wheat jay]

Tbh if I was in their place

[nimble jasper]

whaazz and raiku is also prob

[wheat jay]

Id do the same

[nimble jasper]

the oldest rogue mage dynamic

[wheat jay]

Practice as much as possible

[nimble jasper]

that still plays wow

[fickle forge]

I'd never, don't think my life is worth impressing 3k-5k viewers live

[wheat jay]

Depends

If your Twitch is good

Then you make good money

[fickle forge]

True true

[nimble jasper]

there is to some extent truth in that rogue mage playing with the same guy over years

[wheat jay]

But awc itself

Not worth it

Fuck no

[nimble jasper]

makes for even higher synergy

than random rmp

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

They're in each other's heads

[wheat jay]

Rent free

[fickle forge]

Knows what comes next all the time

[nimble jasper]

and mehh is just

super aggro

for a healer

[near delta]

Don't get why Drake and them don't stream legit free money

[nimble jasper]

drake and ceral stream like

once a year

prev is aus so maybe his internet is too shit

to stream

[near delta]

Yeah prob

[elder wigeon]

prev is nz

[nimble jasper]

is he

[elder wigeon]

yep

[nimble jasper]

ping still applies

to him tho

i think awc is held on na servers?

for na cup

[elder wigeon]

yes west coast

[nimble jasper]

playing at 4am

[near delta]

Ping probably isn't that bad

[nimble jasper]

on 200 ping

[near delta]

The time difference is fucked

[elder wigeon]

it's 130 ping

[near delta]

One of my buds tried playing from the Netherlands on our server

And it was like 110 ping

[nimble jasper]

i got like 200 ping to oce

last i tried

hmm

[near delta]

Ah interesting

[nimble jasper]

from east coast

i get like 100 to eu servers

tho

[near delta]

Thats a good bit worse than west I'd think

[nimble jasper]

i get

68 ping

to west

[near delta]

And what's your ping on east?

[elder wigeon]

my isp sucks so I get shit ping everywhere

[nimble jasper]

like 20

[elder wigeon]

i get like 80 ping to west from iowa

[nimble jasper]

most noticeable on classes like rogue

[elder wigeon]

35 ping to east coast

[near delta]

Yeah so maybe 150 if you were on the west connecting to OCE

[nimble jasper]

remember nalaa on his na acc was like

“shit ping missed kick cba”

lmfao

[near delta]

MVQ is the most degen player lol

Had no idea how brutal that time zone diff was

[nimble jasper]

mvq best dh

when no other good dh

is playing the game

[opaque whale]

kyrian priest good for hpriestr/fury?

or should my partner stay venthyr

[sharp meteor]

all covs fine

[nimble jasper]

nf priest big funny

one min reck cd

unga bunga

[elder wigeon]

venthyr is trash if you're not playing a set up comp or trying to kill a druid

NF or kyrian imho

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk why so many priests still play venthyr on NA

[opaque whale]

whats kyrian good for

[sharp meteor]

big dam

[opaque whale]

just spamming boon of the ascended when im on my go

[sharp meteor]

healing is cringe mc or do damage

[nimble jasper]

kyrian hpriest can practically solo people

idk its just better

[opaque whale]

what r they supposed to do for it

carrying my friend on his priest playing my war

[nimble jasper]

dps stuns

[opaque whale]

wanna get him to 1950 or 2.1

[nimble jasper]

priest presses boon

idk

you see it alot in like

sub hpriest

genuinely feels like a double dps comp

[opaque whale]

hmm ok

gona give it a shot

[nimble jasper]

zenlyn outdamages his dps

when he does 2s carries

nf is just

free dmg dr

kinda broken 40% dr

[willow nymph]

are there any other viable options outside signet?

[lucid walrus]

deathmaker

[willow nymph]

enduring blow seems like it has good synergy

oh im playing arms

not legs

xD

[lucid walrus]

ah

you never play signet on arms really

[willow nymph]

oh really

[lucid walrus]

you're correct about enduring being arms' best leggo

[willow nymph]

really?

nice

means im smart

i see some arms stacking crit

but with necro wouldnt haste mastery make sense

[lucid walrus]

mastery isn't a great stat for arms

[willow nymph]

why?

[undone pumice]

it bad

[lucid walrus]

doesn't pull as much weight as fury's

[willow nymph]

still gives more dam

so then what do i shoot for

[lucid walrus]

so do all the other stats tbf

[willow nymph]

30 vers 20 haste then crit

i suppose

[lucid walrus]

crit/haste's pretty customary

[willow nymph]

okay okay

rend is no good?

and during execute

am i prioritizng execute over anything

besides MS falling

[lucid walrus]

rend was okay last season but never really picked

[willow nymph]

so then i should go kyrian? murlok shows most playing necro

50/50 split in 2s

[lucid walrus]

i'd go off murlok for stats & whatnot. 2s cov is probably just preference idk, i don't play arms there

either one's got its better and worse matchups

[undone pumice]

kyrian arms 2s is int

go necro

[willow nymph]

What about 3s and rbgs

honestly im at 26% haste and i dont wanna go any lower lol

vers not worth going over 30?

[warped warren]

not 30

[willow nymph]

Go 30 haste?

[twilit ridge]

imo just go in general for haste vers gear, I never really worried about stat breaks or anything

[willow nymph]

Word

Crit when we can't get haste

[twilit ridge]

it literally doesn't matter anymore, as long as you're getting the right priority

[willow nymph]

I can't recraft unity so I'm no double leggo for a bit 🤣

[twilit ridge]

I used to be picky for that 1% extra stat back in the day

I still just have mirror and unity belt lol

[willow nymph]

Do you pve as warr?

Just curious bc it seems like it wouldn't be fun in keys and raid

[twilit ridge]

Every now and then I do

[twilit ridge]

a lot of times it sucks, but rn it's fun to just blast

[willow nymph]

what specs doing good rn fury?

I can't imagine doing fury rotation on a raid boss for 5 mins straight

[twilit ridge]

One of my friends pressed rampage like 800+ times once for a mythic prog fight

arms is solid

Imo pve you can make anything work

It's pve

It's a meme

I've topped where I shouldn't have as Arms

And Arms is still killing it

[full quiver]

LOL

[twilit ridge]

It's funny cuz he had to swap fury

[full quiver]

Fuckkk that man

[twilit ridge]

This is bfa tho, the season where arms did less damage than resto Druid

[full quiver]

Lol

[twilit ridge]

My go to is to pretend idk how to pve and top meters in pvp gear

Works every time

"Oh wait you have the ksm mount???"

GLAD MOUNT ONLY WITH @full quiver

[full quiver]

😂

[willow nymph]

I'd rather play spriest or mage to raid

[nimble jasper]

ranged generally better in raid yes

[full ravine]

i found a mayoclinic warrior pvp guide

https://sportsmedicine.mayoclinic.org/wp-content/uploads/formidable/2/world-of-warcraft-warrior-pvp-guide.pdf

[undone pumice]

mayoclinic

[full ravine]

reading it it the weirdest thing, its just all randomly generated WoW buzzwords

[undone pumice]

wtf

this is non wow players pov

[full ravine]

lol

[nimble jasper]

whoever made this

doesn't know how to use paragraphs

my eyes

[fickle forge]

Can we pin this guide?

[undone pumice]

@val kyr

[warped warren]

arms is pretty fun

[warped warren]

it fuckint downloaded on my phone

[full ravine]

It is important
It is worth it

[warped warren]

HAHAHAHA i read like 4 lines

my eyes dude

[undone pumice]

me reading this

[warped warren]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-the-voices-are-getting-louder-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-end-my-suffering-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-gif-24665895

[nimble jasper]

warlock is such a bad designed class

how does one class cause both the person playing and the person on the receiving end

to get aids

[lucid walrus]

feel the same ab dk

[nimble jasper]

you know at least with piratae

at least pirate is fun

to be on the playing end

i dont remember the last time i saw a dk tbh

prob all hiding from

crushing blow

chains

crushing blow

chains

crushing blow

[lucid walrus]

we've played into like 5 hero cleaves str8 tn

[warped warren]

playing dk into anything that isnt outlaw or fury is pretty fun

[lucid walrus]

fair enough

haven't played

[lavish ember]

Been playing together with a dk the other day. Its fun when people don't know how to get out of their hentai grip.

[fickle forge]

Playing DK into casters doe

Immortal

[thick reef]

^When you don't wanna kill a druid because they're too cute

[undone pumice]

feral going stealth

[visual ivy]

Hey guys. I came to wow back weeks ago.
I mainly done pve with my fury.
After obtaining thr Ksm mount, i want to pvp for the glad mount.
As last i remember. Arms was king in pvp, but i rly often see fury now.
Whats your opinion? Arms or fury? And why?

[raw summit]

Fury better

[visual ivy]

Oh well. 😄 so i will stick to fury then 😄

Ty guys

Btw from what page is that pic?

[fickle forge]

Xunamate

[visual ivy]

Ty

[elder wigeon]

I'm so sick of fury already

[fickle forge]

Then go arms

[elder wigeon]

it's trash

[fickle forge]

Or pull a Troma and play prot+outlaw

Isn't arms competing at top end on NA rn though? 🤔

[elder wigeon]

ret warrior

[raw summit]

[fickle forge]

So play ret warr

[elder wigeon]

!!!!!

great idea

[fickle forge]

Np fam

You're welcome

[raw summit]

now that is an innovative comp you have there

amazing

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[elder wigeon]

I'd only play ret warrior if I could

[fickle forge]

As arms ofc

[warped warren]

100% winate into rm and mage hpr🤓

[elder wigeon]

yes perhaps

[rocky verge]

Whats the best way to gear? In S2 duelist gear and getting abolsute destroyed

[willow nymph]

🤣🤣

[warped warren]

do daily unranked wins

and 3s

[wheat jay]

Oof

[elder wigeon]

mmhm ferals only play jungle

i wanna play the S tier op comp again

tired of fucking around with b tier comps

[wheat jay]

Yikes dude

Well, as long as you have fun

[elder wigeon]

lol way more fun playing the broken comp

no point struggling

[wheat jay]

Meh

I prefer playing what i enjoy

And if you enjoy playing fotm, that's good for you

I tried paladin and it was boring as fuck

[elder wigeon]

i definitely don't enjoy fury

[wheat jay]

Lmao cuz fury is not enjoyable