pvp

[indigo barn]

HS root

That

[elder wigeon]

Shield slam purge

[indigo barn]

Heroic throw silence

[elder wigeon]

Old second wind

[mild thunder]

okay okay we're getting carried away

[indigo barn]

Swordspec

Macespec

[elder wigeon]

Wrath second wind is class flavor

[mild thunder]

just give arms warrior wf totem tbh

[elder wigeon]

Shield wall

[indigo barn]

Warbringer non dr stun

[elder wigeon]

Kekw

[indigo barn]

Make it aoe like current warbringer

[mild thunder]

lmaoo

[elder wigeon]

Might as well just bring back season 12 warrior then

[mild thunder]

warbringer stun + storm bolt + double charge

lets go

[elder wigeon]

5 stack taste for blood 1 shot

[indigo barn]

We have to go deeper

[lucid walrus]

skull banner lel

[mild thunder]

overwatch returns as a talent

[indigo barn]

Old mortal strike

[mild thunder]

execute from 100%

[lucid walrus]

healers such as disc priest, known for their mobility

easily able to keep up with a tank incapable of being snared longer than a global

[mild thunder]

sounds like a fun fella

[opaque whale]

1500 mmr games in a nutshell

For someone reason everyone below 1.8 thinks they play perfect and everything is the teams fault

[indigo barn]

Rbgs in a nutshell*

They do that at hero

[opaque whale]

For 2s and 3s i noticed way more toxicity low rating tho

Lol

[indigo barn]

Low rated feels it's BS, high rated know it is

[mild thunder]

low rated arenas are just a blamefest

[full quiver]

@elder wigeon arms dream dead

forgot about the whole tier piece thing

fucks up my whole set lol

[mild thunder]

then you get the >1000 game andy's with their negative win rates telling you how to play 🤡

[buoyant shale]

anyone have a battle trance wa

[elder wigeon]

wdym

[full quiver]

cause i have enduring helm from last season

but fury tier on helm

so then i gotta convert pants

then that fucks up fury set lol

[elder wigeon]

you should have enduring on belt

[full quiver]

i just have enduring from last season lol

[nimble jasper]

nice ripper]

[full quiver]

fury kyrian feels fine

idk what u guys are smoking

[elder wigeon]

thx

[buoyant shale]

anyone have a retail battle trance wa?

[small silo]

what 4 items to we put tier set on ?

[lucid walrus]

helm and shoulders for sure

[small silo]

ok cool cool ty

[mild thunder]

for fury its best to use everything except legs
for arms, best to use everything but chest

[opaque pine]

Is Ret war better than TSG

[warped warren]

😹

classic

[mild thunder]

im like 99% sure i read somewhere how to do this, but is there a way to sync omnibar and/or nameplate cooldowns to enemy CDR abilities, conduits etc. like HoJ being reduced/holy power spent?

[warped warren]

no clue, but if you find a way, let me know

[mild thunder]

getting tired of having to guess the hoj reflects 🥱

https://www.wowhead.com/news/automatically-target-enemies-or-friendlies-with-reticule-based-spells-using-327371 looks like the spear of bastion macro has become known... nerfs inc

[sharp meteor]

yeah although unholy/fury/disc is uh

most prone to killing somebody first limb

[full quiver]

how the fuck do you vs mm/hpriest as arms/hpriest lmao

[mild thunder]

you dont xD

[full quiver]

first game to make me mald in a while

[mild thunder]

arms/hpriest is a super rough comp to play

[full quiver]

hadn't played arms since last season got up to like 2270 mmr playing mirror every game

then played that malded and tanked lol

[mild thunder]

yea arms isnt very good in 2s atm at all, except maybe against other melee and it is horrible with priests

[full quiver]

claps sub rogue so hard lol

the bad ones ne ways

[turbid sparrow]

What should noob like myself do when starting pvp?

[mild thunder]

thats a little vague... what do you need help with?

[turbid sparrow]

Ugh, everything lol. What spec and covenant is best?

[sharp meteor]

mm probs necro fury

[mild thunder]

check pins for all the super basic stuff like that

[pseudo parrot]

is there a diffrence between pve and pvp tier sets or items overall in arena ?

[mild thunder]

tier sets are the same for pve and pvp

[pseudo parrot]

no reduction on stat at all ?

[mild thunder]

no

[opaque pine]

As TSG do you kil the Ret or warrior?

[warped warren]

cc chain hunter on double tap/cds then just run him down with banner have your healer instadispel binding trap

[full quiver]

I was kyrian lol

Leap, scatters me

Charge disengage + binding

Ans guy is nexro so my fucking warbringer is auto proccing poop slow on ground

[lucid walrus]

click talents, select fury

[full quiver]

😠

[mild thunder]

best advice ngl

idk you could try double time, but it doesnt feel as good on arms

[full quiver]

I think I have to go SB and go healer

Don't think I can go a good MM on arms

Legit touched him once whole game lol

[mild thunder]

what map was it?

kinda sucks that its a thing, but you'll have a much better chance on lordaeron than robodrome

[full quiver]

Robodome ofc

[mild thunder]

ah yes

[full quiver]

Pretty sure I recorded it

But I was malding whole gsme super hard lol

[mild thunder]

i stg its like hunters get a choice of map before the game starts

[full quiver]

Necro MM too

Lmao

Total bait shouldve just ignored him lined whole game until I can one shot healer

[mild thunder]

at least you can actually los necro mm

[full quiver]

Truuue

Would've been 10x easier on gnome war

I swear orc is worse in 2s lol

[mild thunder]

yea orc is universally good tho... you dont get much out of gnome against melee cleaves

[opaque pine]

Ya that’s what we are currently playing at. Our disc is fae. Is it better for him to be a different COV?

[mild thunder]

NF disc works really well

[undone pumice]

nf hpal >>>>>>>> god

[nimble jasper]

nf hpal lmao

just kill his ass in 2 goes

[warped warren]

alternate avatar + bladestorm to rootbreak if your healer is poopoo

[warped warren]

sb and run hunter down entire game, spear on his feign only

[undone pumice]

blessing of cummer@nimble jasper

[sharp meteor]

have seen venth and nf although i think somebody i know recently tried kyrian

just like the most terrifying possible opener with dark ark pi and boon

[lucid walrus]

played tsg with NF hpal once

felt like i had a time bomb strapped to my chest

[undone pumice]

real SL cleave

beat rheir asshole in half instantly or die on 2nd go

[lucid walrus]

it's ridiculous how much throughout necro gives hpal

that fae pally had no sustain

[opaque pine]

Who do you think is the best target to kill with TSG vs Ret/War

[elder wigeon]

probably the warrior

[sage raptor]

If you're playing a physical class, prolly warrior yeah.

Ret super squish against magic. Then again so is warr. Hmmm

[mild thunder]

ret is squishy in general

[steep inlet]

ret

[fickle forge]

Can probably bag both of them with TSG cleave

[deft grail]

Guys i cant decide between deathmaker and signet as fury

I know they are both legit

What do i prefer in what situations

[elder wigeon]

people that play either of them play them is every situation

[deft grail]

I checked top leaderboards and ppl who run signet dont run anger management

I find it very weird

[raw summit]

why would you

Ra fucking trucks

[deft grail]

To proc the legendary more often ? Lol

[raw summit]

well you want Ra so your tier procs are stronger

also the charging RB is vital

[deft grail]

Yeah t4 proc is bigger than anger management apparently

Then i think deathmaker makes more sense i guess? But then i lose 2nd root removal

[raw summit]

4p proc usually is 1 or 2 empowered RBs into the face of the opponent

signet is very bursty so i prefer it

but i own both and mix and match

[deft grail]

Signet is for burst?

I thought its main function is root removal

[raw summit]

well if you banner reck and get an avatar

thats gonna hurt

and fury BS does really hurt since you get like 6 ticks with frenzy

for roots you have that honor talent

[deft grail]

In what scenarios you prefer which

Can u give examples

[raw summit]

into like arms where ill just hit someone a lot ill usually play DM

into stuff with less uptime ill go signet to make uptime count

into x2 melee signet is cool too since BS is your main form of cleaving

pressing ww every 2 isnt too cool in pvp

[deft grail]

I see

Thanks

[wary tinsel]

I wish Meat Cleaver was just how Whirlwind works baseline for that reason. If it gave me 4 AoE attacks it would feel better.

[elder wigeon]

fury would have busted aoe

[wary tinsel]

Oh yeah it would lol

Sweeping Strikes would be a good middle ground to give us more comfortable cleave in PvP but then the Arms players would get mad lol

It's single target is already busted as it is.

[elder wigeon]

idk if I'd get mad if fury had sweeping strikes instead of whirlwind 4 target cleave

I get mad that fury is more durable, has self healing and more damage and a better ms lol

[undone pumice]

arms has a better ms

but for less time

🤓

[wary tinsel]

Arms has better utility though.

If Fury's damage was toned down a bit I think Arms players would feel less bad

[elder wigeon]

arms utility is based around "hit me instead" and arms is squishy

[wary tinsel]

Fury needs to do more damage than Arms to make up tor the lack of utility

[elder wigeon]

the problem is fury takes less damage and mitigates more of it through better sustain

[wary tinsel]

Was the Defensive Stance nerf really that bad?

I've played both but not at a high level

[elder wigeon]

Yeah the d-stance nerf hit arms really hard

it's the worst version of d-stance to date

it's too taxing to sit in d-stance as much as it's required for a 10% damage reduction whereas fury gets to have it 70-90% of the match through enrage with zero outgoing damage reduction

[wary tinsel]

I feel like if they were going to nerf D Stance they should have nerfed the damage done in D Stance instead of the tankiness. Also the game should not be designed in a way that makes Arms feel forced into D Stance for 90% of the match.

[elder wigeon]

lolol no that's too convenient

[wary tinsel]

I have hope for Dragonflight. Maybe with more robust class design they can make both Arms and Fury feel good without making the other feel bad

[weak oyster]

guys

Anyone here have 2 legendary lvl 291

[dark sparrow]

No, thats impossible

[weak oyster]

?

You can

[dark sparrow]

sarcasm. Pretty much everyone has double 291 legos

[weak oyster]

u need a lot rep in ZM

[elder wigeon]

what's your question

[weak oyster]

U have reached the maximum rep?

[elder wigeon]

exalted?

I'm revered on one character, got the memory and quit grinding the rep

[dark sparrow]

This.

[weak oyster]

Oh

is there any tabard that helps?

[elder wigeon]

no

go human if you're that down bad

[weak oyster]

Rip

[weak oyster]

What’s the difference

[dark sparrow]

nope, there is a contract for wq afaik but thats about it

[elder wigeon]

10% increased rep gains for being human

[weak oyster]

well

I wanted to ask someone reached exalted

I wanna know how much it did take

[dark sparrow]

Why?

[weak oyster]

because 😗

if it’s hella long I’ll skip it🫠

[dark sparrow]

but why would you want exalted is my question

[full quiver]

Lol

Why ask in pvp channels

[weak oyster]

so I can get my legendary lvl 291

[weak oyster]

Well it can be asked in any place cuz they all need it

[dark sparrow]

thats revered, not exalted. it takes like 1-2 weeks of doing dailies of like 15min per day

[weak oyster]

But I saw here more active

[weak oyster]

I always forget which one

[weak oyster]

world quest only?

[raw summit]

I am i think 19k into exalt

Only doing WQ and worldboss and random elites

[weak oyster]

I see

[raw summit]

I was revered ages ago and started slacking

Now im just doing it for the rune and the tabard

[dark sparrow]

only reason i go to ZM is to buy the bag of resources for sending it to alts lmao

[raw summit]

I am still missing the green sword

Ffa

[dark sparrow]

Hmm yea, i got the red one. might just go try get the green one i guess

[weak oyster]

For transmog?

[dark sparrow]

yea outlaw transmog

[weak oyster]

if u have picture of it would be cool

[fickle forge]

Maybe one day Blizz will implement rep catchup

😎 👍

[raw summit]

Never

Ok maybe korthia counts

[weak oyster]

I thought they will do it in the last patch 9.2.5

but since they didn’t I don’t think they would later

[raw summit]

no shot

[full quiver]

i waited until like a month ago to do the grind

waiting for catch up lol

[buoyant shale]

what are the "lock in" pvp talents for fury right now? currentlu running slaughterhouse, battle trance and enduring rage, swapping out disarm for battle rance

[undone pumice]

enduring rage and slaughter are the 99% of games

[buoyant shale]

ok perfect

[undone pumice]

slaughter is our mortal so wereneverswapping it

u dont rlly need more than 1 slot most of the time

u just pit in bloodrage, btrance, warbringer or disarm in the last one

[buoyant shale]

so i think wher ei went wrong is not lockling enduring rage

[undone pumice]

enduring rage is really good

[buoyant shale]

yeah i havent been playing it at all lmao

i appreciate the insite

[undone pumice]

battle trance is k but

its really minor

[buoyant shale]

yeah, swapping that out now

[earnest zodiac]

wait, yall arent running trance? enduring rage feels like waste imo.. if you got up time and are maintaining slaughterhouse. i feel like i havent needed enduring, where trance saves me in longer games

[undone pumice]

enduring is op ngl

[earnest zodiac]

I havent found any use for it

Granted im only like 2200 atm so maybe im not aware of something, but it feels like if I have uptime

its a big stinky waste

Id rather take trance house and sub 1

[twin sinew]

Trance is getting a lot more play now because of the bug fix. I play tsg and i’m always the damn target so I like the heal from btrance. It’s actually huge, short games it heals 60k-70k and longer games i’ve seen it heal 130k+. Not to mention the rage regen.

[full quiver]

Condensed animals sphere and BT going

Feels like a decent amount of self healing

[earnest zodiac]

yeah seriously, i feel untouchable when i take impending into cleaves

[undone pumice]

real dux?

nvm fake dux

[raw summit]

Fake

Snh

[sharp meteor]

Quack.

[raw summit]

Our healer named dux

Quack.

[weak oyster]

guys

U know the guy that sell item makes u go immediately for lvl 60 renown

He has item that gives u conquest gear that u can give to ur alts

anyone tried it ?
How it’s work? Random gear or how

[raw summit]

Random ye

Like last season

[sharp meteor]

just a random conq piece

no sockets or tertiaries

shoot 15 over to new alt and u good to q

[raw summit]

What's the price again

[sharp meteor]

bad main pieces also fine cos u convert to tier 😄

[nimble jasper]

375

[sharp meteor]

375 per box yerr

[raw summit]

Might hook my shaman with em for tmog

[nimble jasper]

just dont pull

5 adapt trinkets

[weak oyster]

Wait

I can get sowed that cost 1800?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[weak oyster]

from box cost 375?

[raw summit]

Yes

[nimble jasper]

its entire loot pool

[weak oyster]

nicee

[nimble jasper]

you can also get wep from vault

[raw summit]

It can also give you shit drops

[nimble jasper]

first week of the season

fully upgraded

[raw summit]

Trill doing sire with two 233s

[nimble jasper]

mace is better for fury

anyway

vers mast

[weak oyster]

vers better

[nimble jasper]

?

they both have vers

[weak oyster]

wait what both

[nimble jasper]

sword is vers crit

[weak oyster]

Oh sorry didn’t notice

[nimble jasper]

idk honestly vers is the biggest copium

people act like 5% vers breaks the game

[manic root]

yo, learning fury warr, any good video guide out there that i can watch?

[sharp meteor]

raging blow until u can rampage then raging blow again

[full quiver]

banner + reck when you got a good window to do BIG DAM

[sharp meteor]

this spec is weird it's like your entire game plan is just making sure you can hammer your 2 buttons into the least mobile and squishiest guy

[manic root]

i feel like i do so much more dmg as fury compared to arms lol

[nimble jasper]

fury is just easier to play

you blow your load

then mash cb and rampage

[opaque whale]

no need guide hit buttons

[sharp meteor]

fury is the single target crank spec ye

burst is super high with conq/reck if u don't get peeled

sustain is super good and uptime usually isn't issue

[raw summit]

Pick a guy to kill and kill him

[sharp meteor]

kind of want to actually try nf fury but seems so much worse than necro heck

[nimble jasper]

i ran into one once

its kinda 1 dimensional

besides the AA bonk

[sharp meteor]

venth feels nice but conq just lets u and ret 1-bang somebody aaa

[nimble jasper]

or they just try

to tank the dam

and run out of cds

[opaque whale]

nightfae fury doesnt look that good

[sharp meteor]

keep setting up new warrs cos nothing else to do and it's like hm i want all four covs but necro is just so powerful

[full quiver]

@latent cloak https://streamable.com/tq4s5x

That lil macro has a lot of potential lol

[sharp meteor]

yup

[wheat jay]

Has to be removed asap lol

[full quiver]

😂

Survival buff baby

[wheat jay]

Lmao

I won't even use it tbh

Wack

[warped warren]

AHHAHAHAHAHAH

[full quiver]

I won't either

Cba to make maceo

[weak oyster]

Anyone having proplem using spells

When I click when I feel it’s take so much time to do it

even tho I’m not lagging

[raw summit]

click as in mouse click?

[weak oyster]

no

Well I tried all

Still same very late

[full quiver]

Lol

[weak oyster]

okay so it’s not everyone problem
Weird

[inland rover]

hey, any tips into how Unholy/Fury is played in 3s?

[raw summit]

kill people with big dam

[inland rover]

i see

just tunnel a target till their health drops below 1%?

[simple rock]

yeah, kill them before they kill you

[manic root]

how should i play against RMP?

[nimble jasper]

thats way too vague of a question

trade proper for their goes

[opaque whale]

need 2.1 on my mw

whos queueing

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about how they're probably going to nerf fury before touching rogue again

[wheat jay]

Remove raging blow charge and fury is back in the bin

[inland rover]

hey, so im struggling to stay alive in 3s, i feel like i get melted and torn apart even tho i use all my defensives, and not overlap them at that

as an example i just went against a DH/Unholy and healed for almost 200k but still died really fast

[wheat jay]

Sometimes you just can't tank the damage and you have to stop enemies from doing it

[lucid walrus]

5 minutes well spent

[raw summit]

[warped warren]

aHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[near delta]

10 yards as it currently is is kinda nuts. A nerf to 5 would be reasonable imo

[wheat jay]

I dunno

Still wack

Yesterday I was kiting a slowed fury

Motherfucker is unkiteable

Just charged to me 4 times in a row

No rampage

Just charges from raging blow

And I was dying to it...

[undone pumice]

noob

[kind sail]

XD

[wheat jay]

Suck me left nutso

[elder wigeon]

in 2's?

@wheat jay https://youtu.be/VwrFNMPDJK8

[wheat jay]

Im talking 3s

I dont rly play 2s anymore haha

[elder wigeon]

should still watch it

[scarlet barn]

true

he hates furies

cant win against them

[elder wigeon]

should be able to

the good hunters feel impossible

[wheat jay]

That's not true

[wheat jay]

This is

I prefer playing against outlaw rogue

[scarlet barn]

[wheat jay]

Against fury

[undone pumice]

just in general

[wheat jay]

Nah

In mirrors its fine

Cuz if you lose a mirror you can analyze it well

And if you win a mirror then you were the superior player

[full quiver]

You can't kite them for distance

Just have to make it so going you lines healer

And that it's not easy to swap to your hraler

[misty hawk]

IP + Rampage macro still a thing?

[sharp meteor]

Dang, that sounds like a quality macro. Bis, even.

[kind sail]

why are you all talking about ignore pain macro?

I dont get it, if u macro it you waste a lot of rage )?

It looks better to just press IP when you need it ?)

[kind sail]

But why?

Is it a joke or soemthing? XD

[ember totem]

King

[scarlet barn]

yes

[full quiver]

It's really good for beginners

[full quiver]

It's good because you use ignore pain off cd as arms

So if you have it macros you don't gotta think about it

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[sage raptor]

I felt that in my soul

[opaque whale]

got to 2100 on war.. is 2.2-2.4 a lot harder of a climb

in 2s

or is it mostly the same shit ive been facing

[elder wigeon]

yes

because all you q into is outlaw

[sharp meteor]

Feels easier now than a month ago but you still queue into shit that'll just win unless you massively outplay them.

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

Imo it's get Duelist 2s, gear, then get pushing 3s.

[elder wigeon]

you should never win vs outlaw as warrior tbh

harder matchup than surv hunter

[sharp meteor]

If you want glad then floundering around in 2s is a waste of time

just get that quick duelist, get decked then throw your body at 3s

[elder wigeon]

2's helps you get better at macro play

but at a certain point it just doesn't matter if you're megamind and outplaying them with all your might, you just lose

you can't outplay 4 evasions in 2 minutes with perma feint

kidney kidney disarm blind gouge on your cds

[sharp meteor]

Yep. They've got to throw so hard to lose, and you've got to outplay stuff, so realistically you just don't win.

Just an unfun waste of time.

[opaque whale]

thats what ive tried to do

got 2k in 3s by playing with my 2s healer and random lfg rets

bit harder it seems

specifically ele/spriest

i get fucked

[sharp meteor]

really

I can't say that I've seen that combination in a while

or at least not with any frequency

[tough sonnet]

So, I saw this in the pins

https://i.imgur.com/UZfV6ty.png

but for individual pieces, do i buy 2 2h weapons off the rip with conquest?

I noticed with the current cap that leaves around 1k conquest remaining, wasnt sure of the item prio for this season for fury?

[sharp meteor]

Tier takes priority over at least offhand.

Really, though, just do pvp stuff until you can afford things.

[small silo]

is orc way better then human racial wise?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, Orc is a pretty good time.

[elder wigeon]

human is pretty good too especially into outlaws

[tough sonnet]

so i only buy 1 2h, then go tier for offhand?

[sharp meteor]

I buy mastery conq mace, then haste honor sword until I have 4pc then buy offhand

sword serves as an honor dump if you're capped and have nothing else to put it in, but have it low priority as it's obviously going to be replaced

[thick reef]

first 5 2v2 games today vs other fury warriors lmao

[full quiver]

kyrian fury, nf sp, rsham

do i try out death maker or stick with signet

🤔

[indigo barn]

Signet for the B I G aoe

Kill melee cleaves in open easy

[thick reef]

How are y’all doing

[ember totem]

lol

[elder wigeon]

pretty sick roll

[warped warren]

hot

[ember totem]

I have nothing to switch out anyways so I just took it xD

[thick reef]

whats best comp for 2s? is warrior good in 2s?

[undone pumice]

fury epic gamerman

uhh just take any healer tbh

[elder wigeon]

fury is okay until about 2400 in 2's

best healer is rdruid imo

[thick reef]

Ty dudes

[ember totem]

Play prot and win (sarcasm)

[thick reef]

Take disarm vs every melee comp yeah?

[proper depot]

Anyone got a WA for tier set Reck proc?

[elder wigeon]

yes/no, how you use is is comp specific and has caveats

[lucid walrus]

windwalker and ofc feral are exceptions here

[thick reef]

think 100 for ret and warrior games, and is Joefernandes here on this discord? xD

[lucid walrus]

don’t think so. a couple big names have popped up here before

[undone pumice]

mud is here

best warr

[elder wigeon]

[thick reef]

Hard to focus when your partner looks like this lol

[mystic barn]

Ya I bet you pop a boner every arena match you are in

[elder wigeon]

[fickle forge]

He's not

[slow marlin]

I wouldn't run disarm into ret, it only stops crusader strike, usually they run the final verdict legendary which makes template verdict castable even while disarmed, at least from what I've read

[raw summit]

Ye disarm can be good can be shit

If they cant generate holy power you can disarm them on 0 and prevent wogs

But thats finicky

[thick reef]

Ah ok, do you take it against rogues?

[wet scarab]

Got heroic gavel last night really toying with trying it as an offhand in arena

The bleed and healing buff for a whole minute seems op

[elfin surge]

big dam

[wet scarab]

yeah? you think it's worth it?

[spice hornet]

We good? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

nah

[elfin surge]

and also nah

[wet scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cliff-sad-saaadge-gif-18209034

[warped warren]

[spice hornet]

When are we gonna be good?

[near delta]

You must atone for your sins

[spice hornet]

I don’t play with tanks 🙏

[elfin surge]

@spice hornet qs blessing prot pally fury war

[spice hornet]

You cappin

Lemme see the evidence

[elfin surge]

oink oink little piglet @spice hornet

[sharp meteor]

why u wearing 17 year old paladin gear

[warped warren]

its the 2nd best set in the game

[spice hornet]

mud

having good mogs

Pick one

[main path]

hey guys what leggo are you using on fury ?

[raw summit]

i like signet

[spice hornet]

What slot unity

[raw summit]

weapon

[full quiver]

LMAO

[sharp meteor]

where bis macro

[sharp meteor]

finally ready to push 900

[elfin surge]

Tormented Kings or Deathmaker

[wet scarab]

I thought bis macro was overpower

• IP

what is fury bis macro

/castsequence Banner Reck Bladestorm

[full quiver]

HOW DO I MAKE A FOCUS CHARGE MACRO

[undone pumice]

ragingblow + /yell FUCK YOU

[sharp meteor]

binding enraged regen into raging blow for maximum angry

[wet scarab]

Returning warrior here how do I macro enrage with mortal strike

[spice hornet]

Pressing enraged regen so you can turn red while bursting

[kind sail]

Guys, im just hitting 11k dmg CB crit as max in arenas

Is that okay? I have seen some warriors hitting like 20k

[shadow forge]

@elfin surge when do you use double time + warbringer

[junior glacier]

Is there any world when I can use this in PvP ? (278 in weekly chest) https://www.wowhead.com/item=185815/vambraces-of-verification?bonus=6805

[nimble jasper]

why would you

200% of 0 is still 0

[junior glacier]

+10% size can push enemy to surrender ?

[nimble jasper]

so is gnome just autoloss

[full quiver]

because it's fucking awesome

lol

[wet scarab]

Lol those bracers just improve your unarmed auto attack damage

It doesn’t buff your damage after you get your weapon back

[undone pumice]

holy shit thats incredibly funny

also the fact theyre literally good like

@junior glacier use em aslong as u stay at 30%+ vers

[warped warren]

dogshit, cant even kill totems while unarmed

[sharp meteor]

might as well be a flavor text

[wet scarab]

it does closely mimic my attitude on the 10th disarm by an outlaw rogue

think I'm gonna try out the gavel in a few arena games tonight, testing some of the buffs on dummies and some mythic pulls some of them do more damage than actual fury abilities

have 345 str from boon of the end for a whole minute is nuts, or the venthyr healing and bleed

[sharp meteor]

can't u swap wweapons in arena

i know u can't swap during buff as it falls off but like

seems fine for offhand

[wet scarab]

in mythics you can swap it off but can't swap it again I think

yeah it might work as an offhand as fury

look at that chad Bron though

warriors need an ability just called Smash that knocks back

[misty hawk]

Man, I don't think I can do warrior. Coming from a rogue and I tunnel sooooo hard on my warrior for some reason

[south birch]

I've been using gavel a lot in 2's and i like it

[misty hawk]

Shoutout to people who can play this class and still have situational awareness. I go full zug and it's bad

[wet scarab]

what buff have you found works best?

[wet scarab]

class fantasy is smash hardest at the thing trying to prevent you from smashing or that refuses to die

[misty hawk]

And it shows in the kit hahaha

I think I just miss having answers for things besides "Hit it til it stops moving"

[wet scarab]

there is an answer, it's called die a hero's death with all bullets finished

[misty hawk]

Incoming offensives? Pop enraged regen and hit it til it stops moving.

Healer getting tunneled? Hit it til it stops moving

[south birch]

From what I can tell theyre all nerfed by 50% in arena, think they're all decent, but THE bleed and heal or boon of THE END are bis imo

[misty hawk]

Being top damage with 268 pvp ilvl at 1700mmr is fun though

[wet scarab]

lol it was a bit more tactical when arms was the meta since you had more tools to control the game and scuff goes, but now the solution with fury if your team is about to die is to hit harder and faster

[sharp meteor]

there's warrs at like 3k and 3.1k only playin arms

[misty hawk]

I think the big part of it is smashing rampage, raging blow, and bloodthirst. I feel like I'm staring at my weakaura the whole game lol

[wet scarab]

yeah that makes sense, the kyrian one is really nice for big mythic pulls but sounds like it wouldn't do much in arena, but boon of the end and the healing look really pog. Didn't realise they got nerfed though

[sharp meteor]

although mashing raging blow until you have the red dragon is a pchill time

[wet scarab]

I mean your big defensive CD is to become red and hit an ability called Bloodthirst

[south birch]

You get extra armor from kyr too, which is op vs phys

[misty hawk]

Big ups to blizz; fury is exactly how I thought it would be

[wet scarab]

yeah that's true I think it ends up being like 4500 armor with good uptime by the end of the buff

the night fae one gives you an absorb shield too

plus dmg procs obv

[nimble jasper]

fury is just zug

outlaw kit has way too much honestly

[near delta]

Kidney the kill target, blind healer, vanish and sap healer out of blind, kindney the healer, gouge out of kidney on healer

[nimble jasper]

technically you cant land the second kidney

if you dont play shadowdust

[near delta]

Yeah

I really need to get blunderbuss or whiskers for 2s

But double kindneying is addictive

[nimble jasper]

greenskin’s is just yuge burst

you can really gut shit rdruids

with it

[near delta]

Oh thats nice

[nimble jasper]

yeah i’ve hit a 24k pistol shot

during broadsides

scenario is probably

high uptime-greenskins

low uptime-blunderbuss

mirror/ferals-cdr

[near delta]

Jesus

I'll have to give it a shot

The random 10k pistol shot kills are glorious

My only problem with outlaw

Is between the eyes should use a musket for the animation instead of the pistol

[nimble jasper]

both are good

blunder is a middle ground of dam and cdr

[spice hornet]

Just. Swapped arms any1 have any helpful macros?

[elfin surge]

where unity?

[earnest zodiac]

no use, bad lego

[lucid walrus]

hey guys need overpower + IP macro

[earnest zodiac]

wouldnt you just modify the macro you see above?

[earnest zodiac]

this

[elfin surge]

ty

[earnest zodiac]

in all reality i have it on neck

not sure if thats optimal

but im a 2200 shitter

[frozen monolith]

How often do you Ignore Pain in the arena?

as fury

[mystic barn]

dux more like dix

[sharp meteor]

uh it only feels good during opener when you've actually got more rage than you spend

like with bloodrage and whatnot during signet stuff

other than that only if you're in actual shambles

just kind of a bad button to press as fury i think

better to counter pressure with rampage and if you can't do then then you're probably toast

[earnest zodiac]

flattered

[thick reef]

Whats a appropriate amount of mastery for fury

lol

[sharp meteor]

dunno it seems to be the hardest scaling damage stat in theory though

vers just has dual benefit and haste has the global and slaughterhouse advantage

[thick reef]

yea idk

im running this rn

have 2 more pieces i could swap out but idk which stats i should try for LOL

[lucid walrus]

vers to 30 would be nice

i’m like 32v/36 haste but a good bit less mast

[thick reef]

ah i see i see

i have stupid tier legs at 278

tons of crit

[lucid walrus]

got those too iirc

not the worst for haste. as long as you have tier helm & shoulders you’re not making any grave errors tbh

[thick reef]

oh yea

im min maxing atm for pushing higher then 1700 xDD

[nimble jasper]

thats fine for 1800+

[lucid walrus]

stats are whatever at that cr ya

there's no hard and fast moment where they're suddenly more important though

[echo anvil]

This is me atm... im looking to push over 1700, anything you would change?

[full quiver]

Nah you have way better gear than I did lol

[echo anvil]

😄

I still suck though

[full quiver]

Just need to play more games

I also like badge in 2s better for bigger goes

[echo anvil]

had a bad night with my team lol - feeling disheartened haha

[nimble jasper]

change mog

[echo anvil]

3s we run DH/Fury/Heals

Feel like im just the target all the time and always on the back foot

[full quiver]

You gotta send like every cd in the opener

[nimble jasper]

if you’re on backfoot always as dh fury

[raw summit]

zug back harder

[nimble jasper]

you arent aggressive enough

to force them to peel

[raw summit]

if they are running at me that means i get to hit them dead

[full quiver]

Yeah just run in SB healer chaos nova dps

And pop every dam cd

Or have dh do all the cc lol

And play double time

[nimble jasper]

dh fury is prob the most caveman war comp

i’ve ever played

[full quiver]

😂

[nimble jasper]

dhdk is slightly worse

since its true pve

[echo anvil]

He does mad damage buy i dont lol

[nimble jasper]

i mean

reck banner

cb cb ramp

repeat

they need to peel or someone dies

[raw summit]

if u have rampage and rb keybound you do fatty dam

[nimble jasper]

proc a bs

on 2+ targets

idk every time I’ve queued a meleecleave into another meleecleave at low rating

i just sit healer and cleave his dps for free

then they usually panic

[echo anvil]

im like 1600 lol, i should big boy ruin

lol

im just bad i guess

[full quiver]

I mean that comp is pretty dumb lol

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[full quiver]

Hard to figure out what you're doing wrong when you win or lose in 30s

[nimble jasper]

tho my fav at low mmr is wwdk

triple sweep

kill in opener

or next stun

people choke hard

and overcommit or like

super dr cc you

[echo anvil]

Think i need to have a pro warrior watch me

[nimble jasper]

@elfin surge

oh hes streaming rn

drop in

[sharp meteor]

i appreciate streamers

every rogue and fury just presses everything in the first 10 seconds of each match

alt games so chill when everybody dead second dr

[nimble jasper]

just play human outlaw

cant mongo trinket

if you dont have the option to

[full quiver]

I love insta trinket on disarm lol

[echo anvil]

should i trinket a disarm?

when i pop it all

[sharp meteor]

hmm sometimes

[sharp meteor]

bout to make a fox outlaw

call it piwate

[nimble jasper]

depends

you can trinket disarm if you are like

90% sure you kill someone

in the next few seconds

[sharp meteor]

the question with trinketing disarm on ur conq/reck is

what do they have to control you after the disarm

or if you need that trinket to peel their go

[nimble jasper]

vs rogue teams I'd say

trinketing disarm

is bad

99% of the time

[full quiver]

Pussy

[sharp meteor]

in general vs fury i usually just whack them until they int something

similar with dh and blur

then press everything and they explode

[nimble jasper]

implying dhs dont just blur first gcd

that you hit them

[full quiver]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

they often do it's so weird

incap healer stun me blur air

die 10 seconds later

[nimble jasper]

on monk it was the best

blur air

die through trinket dark

[wet scarab]

The place of DH in the current meta really shows the garbage quality of most DHs after they all got free glad last season

They barely did any balancing to them and they still just dropped off for the most part

[full quiver]

Lol

I got my first glad as tsg and we went like 17-1 into rsham dh boomy

Just killing rshams

[wet scarab]

Poor rshams rn

[nimble jasper]

well

they all kind of just

rerolled fury

imo

[wheat jay]

Always killed dh lol

[full quiver]

Qcp just played silence

[nimble jasper]

I mean the funnier example is still

[full quiver]

And we'd kill rsham first or second go usually

[nimble jasper]

how hard destro population

ran off a cliff

after resolve change

[full quiver]

Lol

[wheat jay]

Yep

Well, not only resolve change

There were nerfs too

[nimble jasper]

demon armor nerf

wow

you cant facetank melee as hard

[wheat jay]

And stun removal

From that weird shit

[nimble jasper]

almost like 99% of lock players are terrible

[wheat jay]

That too

[nimble jasper]

and cant do anything but turret in one spot

all game

[full quiver]

I don't even think they needed to remove resolve

I think the 4pc stun nerf would've been enough

[wheat jay]

Resolve?

[full quiver]

Along with the armor

Yeah

No the trinket

[nimble jasper]

honestly if anything

[wheat jay]

Well

It got properly nerfed

[nimble jasper]

resolve change buffed warlock into outlaw

[wheat jay]

Fuck it

[full quiver]

That 4pc stun was what sucked ass lol

[wheat jay]

They should have removed grenade too

[nimble jasper]

cuz now you cant just get your immunity gouged off

and they just laughed

[full quiver]

Our feral rooting it off was funny

[nimble jasper]

yaeh monks could do that too

second disable just roots you

[elder wigeon]

how to beat outlaw in 2s

[undone pumice]

win

[opaque whale]

get lucky hit healer

[elder wigeon]

kek

2500 teams don't let you

you're in cc for at least 50% of the game

[full quiver]

lol

i feel like arms has better chance than fury

fury pretty hopeless

[sharp meteor]

?

[full quiver]

banner/parry

overpower if somehow he has no vanish and is low hp with only evasion left

[sharp meteor]

idk if u can reasonably kill outlaw ever

seems like it'd have to be clones/mc on them then kill healer

[elder wigeon]

if you got an op stack every time something was dodged or parried yeah you could kill

[thick reef]

https://prnt.sc/AYFjRUIxvW8j

Hows this look xD "with banner etc"

[elder wigeon]

war mode off?

[thick reef]

Warmode on

[edgy zealot]

outlaw is the scary version of fury

[thick reef]

I have one piece I need to buy with conquest n it’ll boost it a bit

[elder wigeon]

just looking at the strength difference

are your conduits bad?

[thick reef]

I don’t think so!

I have a low piece of gear

On wrist that’s probably the difference

[elder wigeon]

you're missing about 200 strength

[thick reef]

Hmm

What I lvl are you ?

[elder wigeon]

285

[thick reef]

Ah!

That’s why

Ahah

I’m only 278

[thick reef]

Yea that makes since now!

I’m only like 278/275 avg gear rn

I ain’t got to higher levels yet

😁it’s pretty close then

@elder wigeon what addon is that for the stats?

[lucid walrus]

deja

[elder wigeon]

deja character stats

[lucid walrus]

turn that AA up son

countin pixels over here

[elder wigeon]

aa looks like shit on wow

[thick reef]

🤟tysm I’m still learning warrior

[lucid walrus]

makes it less grainy. noticed a p big difference

may not be worth the performance dip idk

[elder wigeon]

not a performance concern

visual concern

things looking fuzzy is bad

[lucid walrus]

ig

[thick reef]

I’m close to 1800 rn I’m stoked

[elder wigeon]

sick

[thick reef]

😄

@elder wigeon

[nimble jasper]

did you go human resune

or another war

[elder wigeon]

I'm human on 1

[nimble jasper]

ah

[undone pumice]

resune gnome arc when

[elder wigeon]

gnome is shit

human or orc

[undone pumice]

dwarf

dwarf the sepsis

[thick reef]

Im closer now!

[elder wigeon]

need human in this outlaw meta

[sharp meteor]

seems good into jungle, not so much into nf assa

i mean ripping off stuff after you're out a kidney you can't trinket is decent but

[elder wigeon]

most warrior comps are good into jungle

[undone pumice]

jungle d tier unplayable

[sharp meteor]

mm yeah queue into jungle on dark iron and come out of the first stun with like 800 extra str

[elder wigeon]

banner the dark iron and hit a 70k execute

[undone pumice]

me when my racial is a third damage cd, a defensife cd and also cool icon

[jade totem]

can someone help a brother out with a charge/pummel focus macro?

[spice hornet]

Any1 have any helpful macros for learning arms?

[lean burrow]

I just started playing orc, do I macro blood fury with conq banner?

[elder wigeon]

that's preferable if you want it always lined up

[lean burrow]

perfect for zug zug

[fickle forge]

/cast mortal strike
/cast ignore pain

[scarlet barn]

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[lean burrow]

yo guys

how much damage does fear actually withstand?

google can't tell me anything

wowhead can't tell anything

[fickle forge]

Think there's a formula somewhere

1 sec

[fickle forge]

Bit helt up rn, but this site basically holds just about any formula you wish to know
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/function/abilitydamage?spec=RogueAssassination&version=live

[raw summit]

in pve it breaks on an enraged whirlwind

soo if its not a lot diff in pvp

then like 200

[warped warren]

breaks from looking at people, but i cab get 100-0 in one

[full kiln]

fury war best

[lean burrow]

thanks

[nimble jasper]

most fears break in 1-2 hits

unless warlock fear where you can lose half your hp before it breaks

[lean burrow]

frost dk's blinding sleet

[elfin surge]

🤔

[lean burrow]

playing weakest spec

because strongest is outlaw

[warped warren]

imagine not playing the best spec in the game, ARMS

[elfin surge]

fury weak confirmed

[full quiver]

🤯

[dark sparrow]

Is this joe's faq?

[graceful quarry]

joemegalul

[elfin surge]

Skyhold Faq is outdated asf lmao

[ember totem]

Prot is the best

Liars, all of you!

[full quiver]

This is a new channel for #pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

[warped warren]

This is a new channel for #pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

[raw summit]

This is a new channel for #pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

[dark sparrow]

This is a new channel for pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

Where mods at now

You know who would be a good mod, this one guy named calibri

[wheat jay]

This is a new channel for #pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge so we good?

[flint steeple]

Hey in 3s with Ret Warrior what’s my roll do I cc and be annoying on the kill target wile the Ret blows shit up?

[nimble jasper]

I mean you kind of just

run at people together

and make sure you hoj stormbolt two different people off dr

idk meleecleave always been on that kinda braindead shit

[flint steeple]

Okey cool 🙂 tossing up if I play war or Ret probs play War has more comps then Ret

[nimble jasper]

where you just hit whoever nets more cooldowns

[flint steeple]

Yesh cool makes sence to me thank you 🙂

[nimble jasper]

ret has probably the same amount of comps?

dunno

[flint steeple]

I don’t know close to it just wayinng up what I do 🙂

[nimble jasper]

warrior really only has more comps if you’re playing with friends

otherwise gl finding someone who’d rather q with a warrior that isnt ret war or turbo

[flint steeple]

Ah that’s true true

Ret has Qupid and Ret war so same same

[nimble jasper]

ehh mostly ret war

hunters rather q jungle or thug

[flint steeple]

Yesh only seen rets and warriors together

Even in 2s I fell like with our a Warrior Ret falls over ya know I don’t know just me playing agenst then

Then

War hunter okey?

[spice hornet]

In 3s or 2s?

For warr hunter it’s alright but you’ll have to find a hunter that would want to play with you over a feral

[nimble jasper]

[flint steeple]

Yesh my mate is a Hunter

[nimble jasper]

wonder how long till NA realizes

that outlaw thug also kinda fucks

[flint steeple]

Him an I play together

Yesh Outlaw anything kinda fucks

[near delta]

Outlaw the new arms

[flint steeple]

😂

Thought that was Fury

[nimble jasper]

fury dies

altho fury is great at low mmr

[flint steeple]

But yes all I ever see is fury or Outlaw but outlaw can play with any comp atm somehow

[nimble jasper]

because healers just tank damage

then qq when they die

[near delta]

Fury + anything isn't an amazing comp. Gotta be like Frank's Red Hot to replace arms

[thick reef]

Mannn… rogues are my worst matchup idk what I can do against them

[raw summit]

if the outlaw has hands

you will not win

[thick reef]

Yea..

It’s Sadge I just want 1800 once to upgrade gear and I’ll glad stay lower

[nimble jasper]

you bang the healer

[thick reef]

I try

[nimble jasper]

below 1800 he prob shits himself

[thick reef]

I just get one shotted 💀

[nimble jasper]

and doesnt stop reck banner

oh not outlaw ig

[thick reef]

It’s everything rogue man

[nimble jasper]

non outlaw you can kill

[thick reef]

But then again.. I don’t run 2s with a. Healer so.. hmm

[nimble jasper]

oh

theres your problem

if you play with a feral it might be ok

otherwise

💀

[thick reef]

😂

Nobody I know plays healer

[nimble jasper]

well i hope you have a good hybrid friendo

otherwise off to lfg you go

[thick reef]

Yeaa.. off to Lfg

[nimble jasper]

lfg sucks tbh

I play scuffed cuz people are bad and force me to babysit 75% of the game.

[thick reef]

Lol

I pull insane dmg atm I just need a help

[nimble jasper]

monk alt was an ok time since you win at low mmr on second sweep in 90% of games

unless its rogue mage then i lose 10/10 times if I dont pre every stun dr

[thick reef]

I see, usually I can kill the mage and just die to rogue