pvp

[sharp meteor]

feels like fury gets ruined by cleaves

[full kiln]

ret is like that man i think has insane burst

if he catches you off guard you are dead

[open glacier]

run, don't face him during wings

stun, trinket? disarm

disarm ends? HL far

[sharp meteor]

ret is just anti melee in general and fury doesn't have defensives

[slow marlin]

I run disarm, aegis and impending victory against ret cleave

[open glacier]

he still catches you? pop defensives

[full kiln]

ye ur hp must be above 70% all the time while facing ret xd

[open glacier]

most of arena errors are tanking enemy cds

[echo anvil]

It appears that way haha, I guess the priority during wings is to hide like a little baby.

[full kiln]

arenas are hide and seek anyway

[open glacier]

and with RA, bloodthirst transforms into whatever name spell, but it has 2sec cd or so

you heal way more with that and enraged regen

not the ideal but I mean, you're healing 20% each 2 sec with that

[full kiln]

cant wait for wotlk classic man

arenas way better

classes less mobile

like every class in shadowlands

has every type of cc i think

even warlock stuns

[silver nacelle]

wrath was good i honestly enjoyed mop arenas

were second wind was broken

[full kiln]

this is first expansion i play and i cant catch up with all the movements man

specially with monk dh class because i havent faced them before

[ember totem]

Every class has a self heal, cc you name it

Wotlk classic is gonna be goooood

[full kiln]

bro i like started playing wow on private server then decided to play retail few months ago

mage self heal is absurd in shadowlands

rogue vanishing at 10% showing up with like 70%

rogue/mage comp should be permament damage

they heal like mad

yesturday some guy complained he cant figure out whats happening in his 3s and he feels like its all chase game

because it is

like imagine monk/frostmage/warlock/dh face eachother in 3s

you need to play game for years to figure out whats going on xd

[warped warren]

wlock in wrath has shadowfury as destro and petcharge for demo 🤓

although you would play imp as demo

[full kiln]

yeah but shadowfury is like 1.5 sec if i recall

and has some cd on it

locks i faced on shadowlands has like 3-4 sec stun

like 10 portals

[warped warren]

they can just chain like 4 ccs in a row

[nimble jasper]

“off guard”

[full kiln]

xd shadowlands is real garbage compared to wotlk imo xd

[nimble jasper]

is the giant wings

and yellow shit not a giveaway

[warped warren]

😹

fr bro unexpected damage !!!

[nimble jasper]

unless its s1 ret

then idk if divine toll slotmachine hits me twice

or 4x

[full kiln]

getting into sl pvp takes forever

[nimble jasper]

also complaining about mobility

while playing fury

is a meme

RA charge

[full kiln]

well i complained about fury's mobility too

i said

all classes

are extremely mobile

if you read i wrote fury has 10 charges

[nimble jasper]

its technically

3

[full kiln]

whats the point

[nimble jasper]

depends on rng

[warped warren]

[nimble jasper]

you can get more

[warped warren]

infinite

[full kiln]

yeah bro but whats point adding so many stuff to all classes

[nimble jasper]

if you dont understand how the game works you gonna get your cheeks clapped

in wotlk too

[full kiln]

wotlk way too simple compared to this xd

[nimble jasper]

yeah they need to bring s5 dks

so i can watch someone complain

about their healer dies in an untrinketable strang

[full kiln]

but gameplay itself is simple

classes might be broken and stuff

but its simple

[nimble jasper]

sl gameplay is simpler

wot

sl feels like a moba at times

[full kiln]

sl feels like run and chase nothing more to it

[wheat jay]

as was every arena

ever

[undone pumice]

SL basically has become a moba

[wheat jay]

unless you play pve at like 1200 mmr

[nimble jasper]

also

mop was goated

yet class power

[sharp meteor]

what do people even mean when they say this

[nimble jasper]

was at an all time high

[undone pumice]

its more RPSy

[nimble jasper]

like most pros regard mop as amazing

yet almost every class

could do everything in mop

[sharp meteor]

everybody who played mop regarded it as good

[nimble jasper]

more abilities

is good

[undone pumice]

its also like ur class and mechanics are like 50/50 or 80/20

[nimble jasper]

sl doesnt have much abilities

thats why you get owned by random challenger rmp

[full kiln]

true has abilities with stacks

rofl

[nimble jasper]

cuz less counterplay

sl is severely pruned

[wheat jay]

lmao

[full kiln]

so we agree sl is garbage

[nimble jasper]

yes but not because theres too many abiltiies

like you imply

[full kiln]

i never implied that

i think

[wheat jay]

tbh, once you get gear and all that

[sharp meteor]

rmp is annoying because once they have hands and know how to 321 then a lot of comps just have limited options because it's on you to outplay their setup that they should simply get reliably off dr

[wheat jay]

i'd say shadwolands pvp is good

[undone pumice]

do u understamd what i mean now teapot

[wheat jay]

its the process of getting gear that sucks

[sharp meteor]

no lol

[full kiln]

guys you play wow for years you played all other expansions your criteria is lowered

[undone pumice]

it feels as if

[full kiln]

haha

[undone pumice]

ur class is becoming more important

yk

[nimble jasper]

idk sounds like you dont understand the game

ret pop wings

and hoj

[sharp meteor]

sl s3 feels pretty awful

[nimble jasper]

your butthole is gonna get slammed

theres no unpredictability

about that

[full kiln]

haha bro ok gl predicting what people do at 1.5k rating

you might predict

smart people

in 2.4k bracket

haha

[undone pumice]

the most unpredictable burst is shit like arms proccing sd

[nimble jasper]

i mean

i see ret wings

i run

[undone pumice]

like what??@full kiln

its the same game

[wheat jay]

ret is the most predictable class

when it comes to dmg

[nimble jasper]

there are healers who facetank reck conq banner tho

[undone pumice]

enemy pop wings + seraphim

[nimble jasper]

and wonder why they die

[undone pumice]

you

RUN

[full kiln]

yeah but at higher rating people are at same frequency you can literally tell when they gonna use stuff

[undone pumice]

ok

but

[full kiln]

on 1.5k rating dude is gonna use stuf fbecaus ehe feels like it

XAXA

[wheat jay]

ok so?

[undone pumice]

at low rating u can too

[wheat jay]

it makes it easier

[undone pumice]

and the counterpkay doesnt change

[wheat jay]

if they use shit without any preparation

no cc

that makes it easier to survive lmao

lower mmr is easier because of that

[undone pumice]

the dude is gonna use it at a certain pojlint in high rating

[wheat jay]

lmaooooooooo

[nimble jasper]

unless its rmp

[undone pumice]

cuz you cant deal with it as well

[nimble jasper]

and they do a skillful 321

cross cc all 3

cya nerd

[undone pumice]

and thats why hes using it

[nimble jasper]

i cringe at people who still die

to first ww goes

its so scripted

[thick reef]

Do y’all have tips against grippy hands, I disarm but someone it don’t work

[full kiln]

again i repeat

you all play this game all the time for several expansions

[thick reef]

This is my first season of pvp youngman

[full kiln]

mine too

[nimble jasper]

happens when game is old

wotlk isnt gonna be better

players are just better than when wrath was current

[nimble jasper]

how did it fail

[wheat jay]

Also its not true, that's my 2nd season

When i properly Play

[nimble jasper]

you can argue wotlk is worse if you’re lower exp

because the noob friendly mechs they added over the years dont exist

[full kiln]

its way easier to get into wrath then sl arenas thats for sure

[warped warren]

i start off in preproom to tell my healers "big green man = run around pillar"

otherwise they just run around in a circle in open field

[thick reef]

It just didn’t work… idk why but it was prob my fault

[full kiln]

haha

[thick reef]

I’m doing decent for rating

[full kiln]

intervine behind pillar on wotlk

vs intervine behind pillar put you cant escape because there is dh flying above your ehad spitting beams

or paladin that comes on his mount

[warped warren]

just waiting for the crit sp/r in 2s

[thick reef]

Lol

[nimble jasper]

i havent seen a dh play rain from above

all of sl

[full kiln]

wotlk rogue manages to escape with 10% hp and all he can do is first aid and then go fuck himself

[nimble jasper]

+its so easy to avoid

[full kiln]

vs sl rogue goes stealth comes back 2 sec after 100% hp

haha

[warped warren]

my favorite is getting stealthed on in my face while im hitting them

[nimble jasper]

you know that goes both ways right

if you’re a noob you gonna get fucked harder too

[undone pumice]

sl rogue has 6x warmogs dont u know?

[thick reef]

I was doing a. 2 last night.. we were using a og wotlk team of 2 warriors and a shammy and we went 25-15 ez pz games

[warped warren]

[nimble jasper]

i’ve never seen a dh

play rain from above this expac

ability is a meme and so easy to avoid too

[warped warren]

ive seen a couple

[full kiln]

hahahaha

what about priest's rain from above

hahaha

[warped warren]

mostly a getaway from cds 🤓

[full kiln]

ahha this was

most epic

when i realized this skill exists

my first arena against priest

bursting it so hard man

and guy just

[warped warren]

kurwa flyhak

[full kiln]

flies away

im like

wtf is this glitch man

what is this

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[nimble jasper]

hpriest talent

[warped warren]

🥰

[nimble jasper]

yes hpriest is balanced

[full kiln]

2 minutes later i find out spell has 1 minute cd xaxaxaxa

[undone pumice]

real priest glitch is him mcing u into a pillar and dcing u

[full kiln]

fucking joke

[nimble jasper]

can they release wotlk classic in s5

[warped warren]

bro i run on a pebble and my game crashes

[nimble jasper]

so i can watch this guy mald

as he gets dnd horrified

20x

[full kiln]

haha i wont mald man ill laugh

as i am doing now

[warped warren]

it will be like 3.3.5b or some shit

[undone pumice]

my game crashed so hard it unsubbed when i goblin glided into my garrison

[nimble jasper]

prob

s5 dk was the biggest abomination

this game has ever seen

[warped warren]

ya

[wheat jay]

True, dont even need a pillar

[warped warren]

new hero classes do be like that

[nimble jasper]

s5 dk

healer is rdruid

ok i die ig

[undone pumice]

wrong

just wrong

[warped warren]

?

[undone pumice]

i wont elaborate

[warped warren]

WRONG

[nimble jasper]

oh wait

killed the dk

jk ghoul comes baxk

kills my ass

[undone pumice]

oh wait

[warped warren]

HAHAH

[undone pumice]

killed priest

xanshi's

[nimble jasper]

nah shadow of death was infinitely worse

than xanshi priest

[warped warren]

ress leggo is w.e tbh

[nimble jasper]

would be better

[warped warren]

just run dps and kill him

[nimble jasper]

if they could just

[warped warren]

)

[nimble jasper]

gfade

[undone pumice]

oh i kited warr in season 1 of shadowlands world of warcraft.pvp?

[nimble jasper]

and serenity

[undone pumice]

i was wrong

cobdemn charge time

[warped warren]

oh wait they do

🤓

[nimble jasper]

s5 dk

was worse than sinful war

dk ghoul hurt more than an actual player

[warped warren]

just kite

[undone pumice]

Date: December 10th 2020
I have just been cheapshotted by a rogue.
tell my family i loved them for i will not li e to the end of this stun.

[full kiln]

just kite it

[warped warren]

the only boring gameplay warrior has ever had

[full kiln]

i still sometimes die like this idk

rogue assasination or what was it

[undone pumice]

also wrong

[nimble jasper]

cuz rogue presses

sepsis vendetta

you press nothing

until 20% hp

die

ask wtf

[undone pumice]

vanilla warr leveling

[wheat jay]

I dunno man, fury's been a thing for a long time

[undone pumice]

get 1v1d the fucj out of by a random lvl 32 ghoul

[full kiln]

yes but if you are stunned at 80% hp you die

[nimble jasper]

what are

defensives

what are peels

o wait peels dont exist at low mmr

[warped warren]

i dont recognize fury as being part of the kit

[full kiln]

true tbh

im fury war i play with other 1.5k rated healers i cant expect them to do

idk

what

[undone pumice]

peel banana while i sit on my hands (i am rmp main stuck at 1800)

[warped warren]

peels on low mmr is used right after their cd window

[nimble jasper]

have you tried

just running down their healer

[wheat jay]

Fair enough

[nimble jasper]

in first reck banner

[full kiln]

yeah but their healer

flies in the sky bro

cant reach him there

[nimble jasper]

then hit dps

????

[warped warren]

running down a hpr

[undone pumice]

tell him to cut that shit out

[nimble jasper]

i just run down

whoever doesnt have defensives@up

[undone pumice]

and tell him u will take away his xbox if he doesnt

[full kiln]

btw do you keep hamstring up on ur target all the time?

[undone pumice]

yes

[full kiln]

i cought myself not using it

very often

cuz i feel like my enemy cant run away from me xd

[nimble jasper]

….

my eyes

[full kiln]

which often turns out to be true tho

[nimble jasper]

yes welcome to ra charge

[wheat jay]

Ra charge is dehumanizing players

[wheat jay]

Turning them into apes

[nimble jasper]

so is surv players

doing steel trap

diamond ice

[wheat jay]

Yep

Get fucked

[nimble jasper]

REEEE

[wheat jay]

Fury warriors deserve it

Also, steel trap, really?

You have 3 root breaks

One on negative cd

Diamond ice i can believe you dont like

But steel?

[nimble jasper]

idk i dont care enough to play fury

for more than 30 mins

[full kiln]

hows arms

[nimble jasper]

shit is boring

[wheat jay]

Fair enough lol

[full kiln]

i never tried arms

[nimble jasper]

2s is a terrible time

if you arent rogue or hunter

or feral

[full kiln]

is arms using same legendary as fury?

tormented kings

[nimble jasper]

no

eb

[full kiln]

cba farming new legey

[nimble jasper]

its like

10 mins of torghast

[full kiln]

yeah cba

[nimble jasper]

[undone pumice]

its not even torghaat

[nimble jasper]

hf in wotlk

[undone pumice]

its

[nimble jasper]

farming icc

[undone pumice]

go to vendor in zm

and go to ah

then go to runecarver

[full kiln]

assuming iv reputation

[nimble jasper]

eb lego

is from torg

[undone pumice]

u can buy it

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaaaan...

Fury is one of the better 2s specs now

[nimble jasper]

realistically even pirate

gets clowned by surv

if hunter is good

[full kiln]

tbh mich you said something very smart

shadowlands

is way way way way easier

to gear

then wotlk

tbh

cant even compare

[nimble jasper]

wdym

[undone pumice]

its easier to gear and easier to play idk

[nimble jasper]

just gkdp your dbw

and smourne

🙂

[full kiln]

ezz

or just buy bis weapon at vendor after farming arena for an hour

[undone pumice]

just do a million gdkps in vanill and tbc

then take that gokd and do more gdkps in wrath

[nimble jasper]

people still wipe

in tbc raids

amazes me

[undone pumice]

people still

wipe to mc

in som

[nimble jasper]

yeah one mechanic

over 5 mins

very difficult

[undone pumice]

people still wipe to karazhan trash in tbc

[full kiln]

cant compare sl and wotlk in terms of gearing and difficulty in pve

[undone pumice]

u literally can

[nimble jasper]

the only redeeming factor of wotlk pve

is bis is bis

not layers of rng

[undone pumice]

wotlk is the undead expansion
sl is the second undead expansion

[nimble jasper]

and epics meant something

altho wotlk was the beginning of the end

[undone pumice]

and then mop came out

and was swag

[full kiln]

mich what is your rating

[undone pumice]

@nimble jasper

[mystic barn]

Better be 2500+ considering he abuses outlaw

[nimble jasper]

hit duelist first month then stopped caring

i should push 3s

tbh

[full kiln]

what rating is duelist

sec

2100+

[nimble jasper]

yeah not high

just gear

[full kiln]

i got to 1500 with honor gear with 3 days played in expansion

wondering if i can beat your rating by end of month

[nimble jasper]

i mean prob game is inflated as shit now

[mystic barn]

shouldn’t be hard 2100 first month vs now is big diff

[nimble jasper]

i was helping a friends alt the other day

its like 20 fury warriors who trinket first disarm

[mystic barn]

Think when I got to 2200 early on there we’re about 2000 people ahead of me

[nimble jasper]

in a row

[mystic barn]

Ya disarm is wack

[nimble jasper]

ran into 6 fury healer teams in a row

warrior trinkets first disarm

healer instant trinkets blind

win at 1:30

[twin sinew]

Anyone know if IQD shares a cd with human will to survive?

[nimble jasper]

no

it doesnt

[twin sinew]

Oh my

[full kiln]

haha ikr

need to get medallion

i run without it

[raw summit]

Can pvpers get a 272 IQD tho

[wheat jay]

Only on na

[full kiln]

yes

i forgot what that trinket does

[raw summit]

I mean iqd is like opc

[full kiln]

someone told me

[raw summit]

Shit dont drop

[full kiln]

it heals

dispels

or adds stats

[raw summit]

I know what it does

Dw

[full kiln]

i dont

[nimble jasper]

@mystic barn I’d also need to 3s to abuse cdr lego on that char

2s you just play big dam

cdr in 2s is fucking cringe

[full kiln]

mich what comp should i be getting into as

fury war

for 3s

[raw summit]

Enha fury x

[nimble jasper]

ret war big brain comp

[full kiln]

how do you call burst target

i mean

[nimble jasper]

i peep kosaki’s stream 2 nights ago

just 6 diff ret wars

queueing

[full kiln]

and what healer is good?

[nimble jasper]

hpriest

[raw summit]

Retwar is 90% running at healer

[full kiln]

i found side murlok.io is it good to use?

[raw summit]

Seems okay

[nimble jasper]

i just know whats good idk

or check players on ladder

[full kiln]

i played with some ret earlier 3s

we didnt go for healer

[nimble jasper]

i mean you can hit whoever can die

[full kiln]

ill try form team after this bg

i want 1600 for 5/9

i need to fix my ui too

is there sound alerter for shadowlands?

[raw summit]

Gladiatorlossa

Iirc

[full kiln]

it does same thing right?

[undone pumice]

yea

blazingboost.com

ezclap

[wheat jay]

I've had 7 this season

Survi in m+

[full kiln]

@nimble jasper should i be running trinket+racial?

[undone pumice]

fury in m+

[wheat jay]

Yep

[nimble jasper]

tf is racial

[full kiln]

will to survive

[undone pumice]

ork

[nimble jasper]

idk

we dont play

stinkyhumans

[raw summit]

@undone pumice you would do a lot more dam in m+ if you werent necro

[nimble jasper]

around here

[raw summit]

[sharp meteor]

orc gang

[full kiln]

when i started sl i picked human becaus eof racial

didnt know racial is nerfed to remove only stuns

:- (

[nimble jasper]

it says

on tooltip

[raw summit]

Its not wrath

[undone pumice]

i'd also do a lot more dmg if i wasnt in dstance

[nimble jasper]

idk human in this meta sounds sussy

unless you outlaw rmp

[raw summit]

Worst comes worst it's 1% stats

Which is big

[undone pumice]

@raw summit im reporting u dont ever send that again

[raw summit]

[full kiln]

bgs are fun

:))))

[nimble jasper]

zerker saltwater stops being funny the first hr you do it

[sharp meteor]

It never stops being funny.

[full kiln]

literally never

maybe its not fun to mich, maybe mich doesnt like hurting people

[nimble jasper]

onetaps just feel idk

waste of time?

i almost globaled bajheera once but he /afked out first

[wheat jay]

XD

[nimble jasper]

was on rogue cuz saltwater zerker on that class big funny

pocket healer dont matter when you just die in duel through your trinket

[near delta]

What an excellent wa lol

[twin sinew]

I love that one lmao

[weak oyster]

Anyone knows why it ain’t working

[rapid shore]

try /castsequence Charge, Victory Rush

[weak oyster]

/castsequence Charge
/cast Victory Rush
like this?

[rapid shore]

no

just like i wrote

first click charges, 2nd uses rush

[weak oyster]

Didn’t work

I want when I click charge and my rush is available it use it after the charge

[raw summit]

that wont work

it either charges or does VR if you are in range

it cannot do both

[weak oyster]

Yea not both in same time

rush after charge

cuz I always forget rush and I want it to be clicked after charge

[raw summit]

just press it again man

[weak oyster]

🫠

[raw summit]

if you forget to victory rush get a weakaura or smth that tells u to

Cast sequences are dangerous since you cant react to shit if you always VR after charge

[rapid shore]

thats true

[weak oyster]

I need to work on it more

wahts the best ability that’s heals u else than VR

[kind sail]

Guys, when you play 2s how do u deal with hunters that perma cc your healer?

[weak oyster]

Since it’s not that much useful in pvp

[mild thunder]

warrior doesnt really have heals man, its not a hybrid

you have regen if you're fury, and can spam IP as arms

but neither of those should be macro'd

[sharp meteor]

how does a hunter perma cc healer

[mild thunder]

reflect leggo

[kind sail]

7 sec ice trap

[sharp meteor]

no

[mild thunder]

imo reflect leggo is very useful in 2s still

[sharp meteor]

u get crossed and/or healer just knocks it off with swp or moonfire

[mild thunder]

i almost never lose to hunter

[sharp meteor]

ya fury domes hunter and arms loses even if hunter doesn't trap

[weak oyster]

well
mage is worst enemy for the warrior

[mild thunder]

you dont need signet to roll hunters in damage, and reflect leggo is a good way to make up for any mistakes you may make

[sharp meteor]

rogue is the worst

[kind sail]

but where is they key to play vs hunter? I really struggle when they 7 sec cc my healer over and over

[sharp meteor]

u cycle stuff in response to traps

trap healer, enraged regen

[mild thunder]

reflect leggo, ands take double time to stay on hunter's behind

[sharp meteor]

trap healer, healer trinket

trap healer, u fear hunter+pets

[weak oyster]

If u escape first attack u easy win

[kind sail]

do you always play 2x charge vs hunter?

[sharp meteor]

shouldn't ever beat rogues

[weak oyster]

well then u won’t ever win if it’s like that

[mild thunder]

hard disagree

assa is very beatable

[weak oyster]

80% player of the game are rogues

[sharp meteor]

yeah and they thankfully don't have hands

nor do their priest

[mild thunder]

outlaw also very beatable IF they have a priest

[mild thunder]

pretty much, yea

[sharp meteor]

hmmmm

[mild thunder]

you're not gonna kill a hunter in a stun, so its not really worth taking

[sharp meteor]

i don't think that ever happens

unless they're both intoxicated

[inland rover]

when is massacre a good talent option? i think its a pretty good talent in some scenarios

[sharp meteor]

when no uptime aka rogue mage

[kind sail]

My healer keeps blaming vs hunter because she said that i need to intervine the traps, but i cant react at time tbh, am i bad or is it not a realistic way to deal with traps?

[inland rover]

gotttt it, thanks!

[sharp meteor]

eating traps isn't realistic in most scenarios

[mild thunder]

is it 100% w/r? absolutely not

[sharp meteor]

u can play mirror but that's about it

[mild thunder]

but would defs rather verse outlaw/priest than outlaw/rdruid

[sharp meteor]

aslo veneing healer = less uptime on hunter usually

overwatch is dead and gone

[mild thunder]

pls dont remind me 😦

[sharp meteor]

vs hunter its just maximize uptime and trade stuff asap in response to traps

parry/enrage high first, fear second, healer trinket third, etc, etc

[mild thunder]

also take bloodrage if its a sv hunter

and if the hunter turtles at like <20% hp, cc healer and try and kill with warbringer + double charge through turtle

they never expect it

[kind sail]

how do kill thought turtle?

I thought it is like a divine shield

[mild thunder]

warbringer damage goes through turtle

its just a thing, dont question it

[inland rover]

wait waht

[kind sail]

lol

Are u sure? XD

Thats weird AF

[mild thunder]

yep

[kind sail]

vs hunter holy, do you stick to hunter or holy? @mild thunder

[mild thunder]

depends what hunter spec tbh, if its an sv hunter you shouldnt really have much trouble getting kited with reck procs + bloodrage + double charge

if its bm and you get a super unlucky map like robodrome, outside of go's or if you're getting mega-kited, you can switch to priest

same as mm ig, but mm doesnt exist

to clarify, im not a glad, so take my advice with a grain of salt... it's what has been working for me with my climb to 2200 atm, but it is not necessarily the best strat

[kind sail]

ty @mild thunder !

Btw, does anyone knows if u can intervine an ice trap?

[mild thunder]

you dont soak it with the intervene, but you can land on top of it and bladestorm/reflect/fleshcraft or just soak it

[nimble jasper]

sometimes you’re on top of healer and they get trapped anyway

double time warbringer is fun into hunters

[mild thunder]

DT warbringer is fun into everything

[nimble jasper]

alot of hunters choke hard

if you just throttle them with damage

[mild thunder]

yup, hunter has almost no defensives outside of turtle, so once it's down they be scared

[nimble jasper]

some just start doing shit like

bad sacs

trapping you

etc

[mild thunder]

yea i feel like i almost never lose to sv hunters anymore

[nimble jasper]

good surv you just dont win

[mild thunder]

they just cant compete with damage if you stay on them

[nimble jasper]

unless he d/cs

[mild thunder]

maybe im versing exceptionally bad hunters haha

[raw summit]

Well the good hunters are far up

Rest is fotm monkeys

[mild thunder]

true, i still verse the gimps that harpoon > trap with no bait 🤡

[raw summit]

Sad thing is that usually works

[mild thunder]

dont worry, sv hunter is high-skill

[wheat jay]

which am I 👀

[nimble jasper]

the really good hunters

can trap off nothing

watching some its like they’re always 4-5 steps ahead

[mild thunder]

bicmex hurts my brain to watch

those 180 disengage insta traps are wild

hurts my brain in a good way*

[weak oyster]

Guys
Wahts the best enhancement for fury

[wheat jay]

two dps ones

not the aoe one

[mild thunder]

celest guidance + sinful rev

[weak oyster]

I mean waht showed I work on

Mastery ?

[mild thunder]

oh stats

verse > haste > mastery >> crit

unless you play kyrian, then crit is as good as haste

but dont play kyrian

[weak oyster]

yeah I won’t

I’ll play necrolord

I heard some people said mastery
And I was like wtf

[nimble jasper]

i mean you dont have the option

to vers haste every slot

[weak oyster]

Well
They said make it the main thing

[mild thunder]

mastery is very very nice

but yea haste is a lot better

[weak oyster]

why not crit more import than mastery ?

[mild thunder]

mastery is a straight damage increase and scales very well

[weak oyster]

Isn’t Vera same as mastery?
just mastery work on enrage mode

vers *

[mild thunder]

kindaaa, i guess

[weak oyster]

why not crit more import than mastery

[mild thunder]

also the way fury works with rampage etc, crit just loses value because your whole rampage will never crit

its not like arms where you hit one big crit exe or ms

fury isnt about big oneshot crits, its about constant pressure

[weak oyster]

that’s true

[mild thunder]

you're also never going to be doing damage outside of enrage anyway, so its not like mastery is only good during enrage

[weak oyster]

But if my main is vers then I should leave mastery

[mild thunder]

no

why would you do that

[weak oyster]

cuz crit would be better in (this situation)

[mild thunder]

if you're playing kyrian, sure

otherwise, no

just because mastery and versa are both %dmg increases, doesnt mean stacking one devalues the other

[lean burrow]

[mild thunder]

fury big brain spec

[weak oyster]

[full quiver]

is playing kleia with crit conduits

as fury

into cleaves trolling

[ember totem]

I use her as prot for pvp 👀

[buoyant shale]

question. for fury defensives. when i press ER i dont feel like i am healing alot. am i supposed to be spamming bloodthirst?

first couple days playing fury

[smoky turtle]

I've been on it a few weeks now and I still don't feel the heals.

[full quiver]

the heal with BT during ER is pretty good

if you use RA you can heal quite a bit

[echo anvil]

What is RA?

[full quiver]

reckless abandon talent

[thick reef]

Best healers for fury in 2s atm?

[mild thunder]

yes, mikanikos is way, way better for the shorter spear CD and better overall defensives/tree route

[mild thunder]

yea, if you need the heals and arent pressing BT during regen, thats kinda weird...you heal for 23% hp during ER and you should be able to fit 3 BT's into the 8sec regen window'

[lucid walrus]

bro what WA is this LMAO

[main path]

guys i think its a stupid question, but do you play fury one handed or two handed ? 😄

[weak oyster]

it’s about shaman and priest

[undone pumice]

1 hand on mouse 1 on kb

[weak oyster]

But I would say shaman

[undone pumice]

and u equip 2x 2h cosmic gladiators mace

[thick reef]

weird to me every time ive played this game priest wasnt viable

[mild thunder]

rdruid/fury feels incredibly good too

but the druid has to be really good and run feral aff for it to really work

[main path]

@undone pumice what does that mean?

[undone pumice]

use 2 handed weapon

two times

[edgy zealot]

Is fury warr topping dh and dk in terms of climbing arenas?

[full quiver]

does anyone in here play fury/sp/rsham

[undone pumice]

no

its shut ngl

[raw summit]

it sounds funny

i wanna play spee

[undone pumice]

[near delta]

https://wago.io/nxxHrYv_w

[lucid walrus]

god bless

[full quiver]

how u know this if you haven't queued it lol

[undone pumice]

i just do

[mild thunder]

the fact that no one queues it is a good indicator

[full quiver]

not really

kitty was hardly queued up until very end

when lord mud showed everyone the light

[near delta]

Not necessarily people follow the meta way too hard sometimes

[mild thunder]

fair point

[near delta]

I've played it once or twice this season with not great sps and it seemed like it had potential

[edgy zealot]

Dh damage compared to fury is nuts

[mild thunder]

??

i dont feel like i get outdamaged by dh

[edgy zealot]

I guess I’m just getting gear gapped

[mild thunder]

maybe... make sure not to stack for free cleave, cause then you will get outdamaged

[lean burrow]

galachad?

more like, gigachad

[mild thunder]

😎

[full quiver]

you think i'm inting playing fury?

[opaque whale]

fury>arm

[echo anvil]

My damage as fury sucks, its the easiest class to do damage im told but im obvs doing something wrong! haha, im sucking! any advice, top tip kinda style?

[raw summit]

raging blow

4p

[opaque whale]

if u have the gear for it its impossible to not do dmg

spam raging blow rampage

ez

[echo anvil]

i dont understand how im so shit then 😄 haha

i swear i do that

[opaque whale]

link ur armory

[echo anvil]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Stormscale/Ãlexander

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormscale/ãlexander

I actually also use Signet in 3s, this isnt showing that atm

[full quiver]

you should use it all the time

[opaque whale]

I rec a quick oxxein ring off the AH

with haste/vers and speed

23% haste p low

[echo anvil]

I have one but not on 🙂

[opaque whale]

yeah id use that over the versatile one

[echo anvil]

But i run signet in that...?

[raw summit]

are you pressing rampage

at all

[echo anvil]

Yeah lol, whenever i can, whenever it pops and its 80 rage

[opaque whale]

i like badge over alacrity

thats just me tho

but yeah gear is fine idk how ur not top dmg every game

unless ur getting kited by a hunter

[echo anvil]

shall i get this instead of the glad ring for more haste?

[echo anvil]

Sometimes i am yeah, but i swap out some talents 😄 to help with that

[opaque whale]

yes but find one with speed if possible

its like 7% or something ridiculous

[echo anvil]

that?

[opaque whale]

need one haste/vers

[opaque whale]

yea

[raw summit]

i got one of those

is really good

[echo anvil]

use vers enchants?

and gems?

thats with 2 x 16 vers enchants and 1 x vers gem

[raw summit]

im a haste % demon so i had 31%

[opaque whale]

u could swap vers for haste imo

but it looks better

this is mine

im a noob i have 265 unity

[echo anvil]

I also have 265 unity

[opaque whale]

would be better with the good one 😭

i also need a few more weeks of sockets

for the speed one too

[echo anvil]

Got it to this

[raw summit]

why do you all have base unities man

its like 3 months into patch

[opaque whale]

i started a month ago

and started war like 10 days ago

[echo anvil]

lol, im just lazy and hate pve

[raw summit]

go into your quest cage

its 3 quests

thats not even PVE

[echo anvil]

yeah, its also being a dad with little time haha

[raw summit]

10 mins a day for a massive powergain

i mean ur choice

but that 265 aint ideal

[echo anvil]

yeah, im nearly there tbh

[raw summit]

ah nice

[echo anvil]

just started doing it and it takes no time tbh

[opaque whale]

what is it

just the 3 wq a day

do u even do the rares or nah

[raw summit]

just wq was enough to get it in time for unlock

back when tier started

[opaque whale]

ill start doing them now cause we have a while lonbger in slands

i guess

not even honored...

cry

[raw summit]

get a contract and slave wqs

idk

[echo anvil]

contracts any good?

[opaque whale]

YES

caps lol

[echo anvil]

is it only like 10 honor?

per quest?

cos that is bad right?

[opaque whale]

eh it adds up

also an extra 10 per rare

so that could be an extra few hundreds

[raw summit]

10 per WQ also applies to the other 30 in the other zones

its a pain but it does give good rep

[sharp meteor]

i mean it's 30 extra rep a day or w/e

[near delta]

In fury (I'm sorry), slaughterhouse with all the dot pressure is brutal

[echo anvil]

bastion feels better than necro atm for me with a DH

thoughts?

[elder wigeon]

if I'm fury I'm necro

[full quiver]

😫

Yeah they want me kyriab for war sp

Kyrian fury gonna feel weird haha

[elder wigeon]

I hate spear

[full quiver]

Me too

[elder wigeon]

I genuinely think it's bad rn

[full quiver]

Seems required for war caster idk

[elder wigeon]

nah

you play necro with mage too

mage is immortal

[full quiver]

Weird

[elder wigeon]

yup

always play necro when playing warrior mage

[echo anvil]

what you recomend with a DH?

[full quiver]

Well kyrian fury Inc tomorrow I gurss

Might be doing arms 2s to feel ot out tho lol

[sharp meteor]

wym i love queuing into mages who just glitch out of it

such a cool ability

[sharp meteor]

kyrian fury feels weird

necro just fits so nicely rn

[elder wigeon]

every single class you want to spear can get out of it for literally free or can bug it extremely easy

[sharp meteor]

also feels nice on arms although i think spear is maybe better for turb

[elder wigeon]

fuck turbo

[sharp meteor]

although my necro arms turb run felt fine

[elder wigeon]

30k ele blasts are nuts

[sharp meteor]

yeah my sham isn't a fan but i really like it

mastery on healer also nice

[elder wigeon]

I don't like playing turbo

yeah mastery is disgusting for most healers more specifically hpriest

[sharp meteor]

spending an evening queuing into retwarr is a sad time

[elder wigeon]

I have yet to play ret war this season

[sharp meteor]

yeah my sham just set one up probs queuing it whenever he gets over covid

three seasons of turb now with maybe like 200 retwarr games last season on alt warr with 200 condies

[elder wigeon]

I've played plenty of turbo, it's just super boring

[sharp meteor]

i really wanted to try wps or maybe with like a moonkin last patch, or kitty, but never got around to it

[lucid walrus]

tsg queues into back to back to back to back ret/war is suicide fuel

[full quiver]

Priest wants to queue and they want kyrian but don't care if I'm arms or fury lol

[elder wigeon]

nah quing into arcane mage rdruid in 2's is suicide fuel

you never get to play the game and arcane mages have infinite mobility

[sharp meteor]

#showtooltip spear of bastion
/cast [nomod] Spear of Bastion
/cast [mod:alt][@target] Spear of Bastion

If anybody wants a macro that throws spear on target.

[full quiver]

😂

[sharp meteor]

Apparently that Hunter trap feature carries over to all reticle abilities.

[echo anvil]

Does the target work? thought only curser did 🙂

[sharp meteor]

Target, focus or whatever else, yeah.

The thing is that it seems to have to be in a modifier macro

[echo anvil]

oh

I dont want it in one lol

[sharp meteor]

It'll probably get fixed out soon Especially if this works on targets that aren't visible, which I haven't tested yet

[echo anvil]

shame you can mod macro no modifier haha

[lucid walrus]

this is ratty as fuck but on occasion you have to lead it anyway

not terribly busted

[full quiver]

If a hunter is running

Will it work or land behind them

[lucid walrus]

spearing hunters

[sharp meteor]

Depends on how fast they are, I guess. Plus latency and w/e. Unreliable.

Or maybe not, I'm not sure.

[sharp meteor]

Force feign with dam then spear, ye.

[lucid walrus]

tfw they trade their 15sec get out of jail free card for your 1min cd

but ya

it'll hurt if you put em thru the ringer first

[full quiver]

If hunter is caught in spear without fd it's like turtle or die lol

[lucid walrus]

skate or die dude

you either skate or u die

[near delta]

I played against this rdruid/boomie team and it was the worst thing ever. Boomie would just instant shift every single piercing howl, hamstring, or warbringer root and just kited me the entire game.

[elder wigeon]

Yeah not fun either

[lucid walrus]

misery

[near delta]

Boomies name was even shifter lmao

[full quiver]

God i queued into them too

[near delta]

It literally felt unwinnable

[full quiver]

Luckily I globaled one in the opener

[near delta]

At least with the random lfg healer I was playingbwith

Lmao there ya go

[full quiver]

I can't even remember which one

I just remember saying to buddy "what is this cringe shit, this is gonna be awful" then winning 45s later lol

[near delta]

They insta triple dr cloned me when I recked into root into vortex then disarmed lol

[opaque whale]

if im playing with a disc priest should he be kyrian

[mild thunder]

no

[near delta]

Kyrian disc with the machine gun penance legendary can be crazy damm

Nf is really good as well though

[mild thunder]

NF is way better imo

kyrian is more of an hpriest thing

[full quiver]

Lol

I was with rsham so I'm sure that helped

I remember he did like 0 dam and I did 20k dps

Game ended so quick lol

[near delta]

Lol yeah the earth shield would help a ton

I was playing with an hpal

[full quiver]

No way to stop clone then

No bueno

[near delta]

Yup or remove Thorns

[opaque whale]

what does nf for priest even do

[full quiver]

A ton lol

[near delta]

Reduces your reck

The cd

[full quiver]

Mana, defensive, cd reduction

[near delta]

And your defensives cd

[near delta]

I thought so too but a disc can legit global people if they pull it off right

Well "global"

[mild thunder]

welp, time to get my disc priest to play kyrian

he's still roasting me for playing arms, even though he's playing disc

[sharp meteor]

just had a game vs assa disc and it felt pretty solid

the spec does so much damage

[mild thunder]

are you talking about the disc?

[sharp meteor]

yep

[mild thunder]

yea its underrated for sure

esp with melee

[full quiver]

Lol dumb and dumber queueing together

[mild thunder]

it works, i swear! (it doesnt)

fury just got mega-boring after like the first week tho

[near delta]

Feels like fury could use some sorta spice next xpac

[mild thunder]

i want a revert back to wod version of fury, before it was rampage spam

never gonna happen tho

[indigo barn]

$50 banner/condemn/spear will be in the bottom row and we can get at least 2

Judging by the dk one

[mild thunder]

we'll probs get condemn and spear

[opaque whale]

spear would be cool

[mild thunder]

banner won't be there because %wise the necro population is very, very low

and in pve banner is super dull, which is what blizz will mostly look at for talent choices

i just want a version of condemn that actually does as much or more than execute

[indigo barn]

Also gotta throw in double time + stormbolt being a thing as well

I can see a 'fuckyouhunter/mage' talent setup being a thing

[mild thunder]

defs hoping for it

[elder wigeon]

I would like to see the return of shockwave in the base warrior talents

[mild thunder]

^^^^

and dragon roar to replace ravager for arms

[indigo barn]

Why not doble kick

Dragonroar knockback

[lucid walrus]

throwdown please