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wheat jay
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nice

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now check this

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i was once confused why my turtle was cancelling

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i had cancelaura turtle on hunters mark lmao

sharp meteor
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o shambles

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ya i bound cancel into most stuff on hunter too

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was annoying when i went to do jailers gauntlet wokege had to go remove that so i could aafk in turtle the whole time

opaque whale
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did solo shuffle honor get nerfed

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was getting 2k per 6 win like a couple days ago

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now its 1.2k

sharp meteor
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gains were unreal so i could see them adjusting it LMAO

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hope not though

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it was like 3k for daily win on a healer

twin sinew
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Vs demo lock ele which should you be hitting? Lock feels so tanky

sharp meteor
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i mean ele just dies but need to respect demo buttons

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tyrant is like a summoned combust or something

warped warren
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pmuch

sharp meteor
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also the thing that has been pretty notable in my matches vs demo was that the pet could just randomly die to cleave

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if it's killed a second time or you stop fast rez then lock is in shambles

full quiver
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Why is the lock pet so important

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Is it giving them defense too like in tbc

wheat jay
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yes

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its giving them a HUGE defense

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and its skills

nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor

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lol their tourney w/r

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its not just ladder

sharp meteor
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It's still wild to me that they buffed the best comp.

wheat jay
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well

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best players playing best comp

raw summit
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whod they lose to

wheat jay
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did they disconnect?

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no nvm, they'd still win after disconnecting lol

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isn't nf priest supposed to be the most mana efficient?

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cuz mehh just shits on asgarath in terms of mana lmao

fickle forge
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Plus they can't do shit like stun you either

sharp meteor
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Don't forget the 25% ms. ratge

fickle forge
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😎 👍

full quiver
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Wasn't sure if soul link was still on game lmao

fickle forge
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It's easier to cleave demo pets since all the mitigated dmg goes onto the pet

sharp meteor
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arms in particular king of shreks the pet with sweeping

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then of course there's kyrian spear dot

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pet just randomly dies

wheat jay
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@fickle forge not gonna lie, seeing blizo just pve his way against bm is reminding me of the spider man meme

near delta
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Blizo damm jesus christ lol

wheat jay
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disgusting damage

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fucks kasu's hp bar three times

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procs GA

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forces turtle

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goes on tony that's in bear form, he used ironfur for more armor, he used BM trinket, he got rayed, did so much damage that it was still negative

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and healer was not in cc, so full healing into that ray

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but hey

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at least i can't complain

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my warrior friend plays arms

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its just as good

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right?

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right?

sharp meteor
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agreed buff arms d tier spec

wheat jay
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nah, nerf fury okayge

warped warren
grim temple
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How much haste do you want for fury?

undone pumice
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all of it

sharp meteor
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spec feels pretty awful without a hefty chunk of it

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but at some point it may be worth to grab a bit of crit and/or mastery

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or just spam haste idk

grim temple
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I’m at 11% crit 19% mastery 31 haste 32 Vers And I have one of each 2h (crit and mastery) wondering if I should go 2 of the same to stack either more mastery or more crit

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Hopefully that makes sense lol

raw summit
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seeems good

sharp meteor
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it doesn't matter

low cobalt
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which cc do you usually trinket vs rogue mage if rogue gets an opener on you

wheat jay
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The one during which im dying

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Or my homie without trinket is dying to

low cobalt
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well i assume trinket first kidney is bad, but usually they kidney smoke

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if i sit i die, i have to be fast enough to trinket leap/intervene out?

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or is that wrong

wheat jay
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If you're smoked, ideally homies save you

undone pumice
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i think he means 2s

low cobalt
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oh this is for 2s

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yea my bad

wheat jay
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If you're in duel and you're dying, most likely trinket

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Oh

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Well

undone pumice
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if youre in duel its a hate crime

wheat jay
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Still the same kinda

undone pumice
lucid walrus
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generally a very good idea to stop bust ofc

elder wigeon
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my team just uses to save self

wheat jay
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Ye me too usually

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Unless I absolutely need to save my homie

low cobalt
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wait u can intervene to ur partner if ur in smoke correct?

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or can u not

elder wigeon
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you can't target in or out

low cobalt
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ok, so even a macro wont target

elder wigeon
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it's actually very rare I have to trinket to save someone else

wheat jay
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He melts

low cobalt
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i know the feel 😂

elder wigeon
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fury is nice into rmp cause you can wall while stunned

wheat jay
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Yep

elder wigeon
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something that warrior actually needs

low cobalt
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i only play arms :/

elder wigeon
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unforch

low cobalt
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i tried fury just cant get into it

elder wigeon
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arms is nice when you have 20% d stance

wheat jay
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I respect people that still play arms

elder wigeon
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fury is tankier just from the extra health I'll pass

wheat jay
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But on the other hand, it would be nice to have easy wins

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Just because fury's dmg and pressure is fucking crazy

undone pumice
elder wigeon
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it's not fun getting cheesed on a class that's terrible defensively lol

wheat jay
undone pumice
elder wigeon
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just no point to play arms

low cobalt
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the point of arms is to have self respect

undone pumice
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but arms has best anti cleave cd ingame

low cobalt
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😂

undone pumice
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point of arms is cuckold

elder wigeon
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you don't need parry to live

low cobalt
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hahahaha

wheat jay
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You need damage to kill

undone pumice
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Man I got the arms itch again last night and it was so desperately tedious. Ended up in a 15 minute game against a feral hpal, kept almost killing them before they run away and heal up, and then died in a dampened stun after dominating the entire game

wheat jay
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And that's what fury does

elder wigeon
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arms has less damage, the same effective utility and much squishier

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why play it

wheat jay
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For self respect i guess

elder wigeon
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self respect is for losers

wheat jay
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Kargish refuses to play fury

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Games would have been so much easier

elder wigeon
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what a nerd

low cobalt
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fury is logical i dont deny, i just feel cringe when i play it, whether its good or bad haha, just a weird thing

wheat jay
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OH LOOK LOCK

undone pumice
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karg is literally a cuck

wheat jay
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And he's gone

elder wigeon
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it's only cringe to keep losing as arms

low cobalt
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hahahah true

undone pumice
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If there are millions of cuck warriors on the ladder Karg is one of them. If the ladder has ten cuck warriors Karg is one of them. If there is only one cuck warrior then that is karg. If there are no cuck warriors, that means Karg is no more on the Earth. If the world is against cuck warrior, Karg is against the world.

wheat jay
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Sike he's not cuz arms burst is nothing like fury sadge

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Its alright

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We're still winning lol

undone pumice
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arms burst is rng

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reliant af

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ava wb banner/spear, charge, exe, mortal, exe

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if this kills they got killed by rng ngl

low cobalt
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im still playing bladestorm leggo

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is that bad

elder wigeon
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yeah lol

low cobalt
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blender too fun tho

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just sad af when its caster comp

opaque whale
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Double time warbringer feels so good

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Started running it more

undone pumice
graceful quarry
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arms is cringe

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what happens if you get disarmed? then ur just s

low cobalt
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disarmed is just extra time to think with zug zug brain

opaque whale
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Same for fury

elder wigeon
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disarm on fury doesn't feel so bad

opaque whale
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Whats the difference

graceful quarry
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i fear my pun has been

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missed

opaque whale
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Oh

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Lmao

low cobalt
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ah shit i see it now lmao

opaque whale
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I thought u just forgot to type somethjng

low cobalt
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jfc

elder wigeon
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you have much more damage and pressure that one little disarm doesn't fuck you the same

low cobalt
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i hope new warrior talent tree gives flash of light

undone pumice
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sir its a pun

graceful quarry
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flash of lomegalul

undone pumice
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we have impend

elder wigeon
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impending is for sissies

low cobalt
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would be great if didn't have to trade stun/double charge

undone pumice
graceful quarry
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impending should be good vs warlock pets

elder wigeon
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5.4.8 talent tree was fried but not like 9.2 tree

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low cobalt
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👀

graceful quarry
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ahh

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mop

nimble jasper
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double kick

wheat jay
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Yes

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The mop

nimble jasper
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glyph of gag order

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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heroic throw silence

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then wod came and rogue had a no cd kick finisher

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that was ranged

low cobalt
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was there ever an expac where warriors weren't reliant on healers?

nimble jasper
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no

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nothing wrong with that

graceful quarry
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isnt every class reliant on healers when it comes to 3s

nimble jasper
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unless q with a prot pal

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and summer cheese

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yes

wheat jay
elder wigeon
wheat jay
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Bullshit, you had small healing below 30%

elder wigeon
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oh now it's small

wheat jay
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3s scenario you still needed healing

elder wigeon
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you could 1v1 any spec and win in 5.4

wheat jay
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You can do the same thing now, duels in front of orgrimmar dont count...

nimble jasper
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oh nah

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no one could 1v1 wws

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in mop

elder wigeon
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pre wall the kidney dance and then they can't kill through the second wind keks

undone pumice
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what was juggernaut, staggering shout, disrupting shout, vigilance, bloodbath, safeguard

nimble jasper
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karma 100% absorb

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and dmg reflected

elder wigeon
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juggernaut was reduced cd on charge, staggering shout would root slowed targets within 12 yards

undone pumice
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the fk

elder wigeon
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disrupting shout was a 8 yard AOE kick

undone pumice
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THE FK

elder wigeon
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and get this, warrior was only fotm in season 12

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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mop was the wild shit

low cobalt
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second wind was auto healing during combat right

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iirc

undone pumice
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holy shit

nimble jasper
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rogue had a poison that autostunned yoy

elder wigeon
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when below 35% you'd heal 3% max hp per second

wheat jay
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So, double time but worse, low range root that you break yourself, good aoe kick

nimble jasper
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at 5 stacks

elder wigeon
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yup

undone pumice
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didnt realize mop was the best expansion by this much

nimble jasper
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psure it was off stun dr

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too

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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paralytic poison

elder wigeon
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literally every pro that played during mop agrees

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they say cata or mop

nimble jasper
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mage sp rdruid

undone pumice
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cata seems kinda

nimble jasper
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had more cc

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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than rmp

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says something

undone pumice
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like cata seems the weirdest hybrid expansion

nimble jasper
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also clone was not on fear dr

wheat jay
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Mop had good pvp cuz many people played it

undone pumice
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85 cap??
new world but old talents??
2 less classes
like 10 less races

wheat jay
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It wasn't a minigame with negative participation like it is now

nimble jasper
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who cares about races

undone pumice
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arnor oen?
hitchance???

nimble jasper
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when only like 5 are relevant

graceful quarry
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3*

elder wigeon
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human racial was a legit trinket in mop

undone pumice
wheat jay
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Orc, human, nelf

elder wigeon
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on 2 min cd

wheat jay
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Done

undone pumice
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panda

wheat jay
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Panda is a meme in pvp

low cobalt
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belf

nimble jasper
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belf cuz paladin

undone pumice
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no

low cobalt
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😏

wheat jay
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Belf is also meme, cow is better for paladin

nimble jasper
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psure every mop pally

undone pumice
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panda is good for mages and spriests i heard

nimble jasper
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played belf

graceful quarry
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ye bc back then

wheat jay
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Healer priest panda is good

undone pumice
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before bekf racial was annihilated

graceful quarry
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they had a silence iirc

wheat jay
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Yep

nimble jasper
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2s silence

undone pumice
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now its a shitty purge

wheat jay
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Aoe 2s silence

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Shitty purge that's very good in pve

graceful quarry
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it isnt

nimble jasper
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tbh the big part of torrent was

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being off gcd

wheat jay
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The only two outliers are Human and Orc

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In pvp

graceful quarry
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nobody plays belf for their racials in pve

low cobalt
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yea def miss old torrent

graceful quarry
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only looks

undone pumice
wheat jay
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Ye but its still nice in m+

nimble jasper
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i mean

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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all the horde races are bad in pve

graceful quarry
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if u care about m+

nimble jasper
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lmao

undone pumice
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the two iconic races being best for pvp

wheat jay
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Racials should be removed

graceful quarry
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play nelf

graceful quarry
wheat jay
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Or made qol only

low cobalt
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agreed

nimble jasper
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nah even troll nowadays

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isnt that huge

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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its mostly dwarf mechagnome and void elf

wheat jay
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Orc is not good in pve

nimble jasper
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as 3 highest

undone pumice
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pve

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ah

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stfu gg

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send feet pics before talking

nimble jasper
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orc only good in pve

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for hunter

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and monk

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buffs sef clones

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and xuen

undone pumice
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orc racial buffs biceps

raw summit
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the good question

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it should

low cobalt
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holy shit buffs xuen?!

raw summit
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my shamnki is orca

nimble jasper
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xuen is a pet

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so are your clones

undone pumice
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cant even have a fuckinf pvp channel anymore dawg

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pveers

wheat jay
raw summit
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owned rolled and smoked

undone pumice
wheat jay
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Big players play pve

raw summit
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dude m+ also minigame

wheat jay
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And kill dragona

elder wigeon
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d stance was built diffy

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wheat jay
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Lmao

raw summit
undone pumice
low cobalt
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lmao

undone pumice
wheat jay
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Nah but for real, right now pvp is a minigame compared to pve

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Negative participation

sharp meteor
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thinkin about her (mop arms)

wheat jay
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Fucked up mmr every season

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Inflation, boosting, wintrading

undone pumice
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thinkin about her (bruin)

wheat jay
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Tourney players banned every season

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Etc

graceful quarry
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is bruin even still alive

low cobalt
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is it just cuz near end of expac

undone pumice
low cobalt
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and no one cares?

elder wigeon
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boosting and wintrading is nothing new

sharp meteor
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i wish pve had mounts that passively made people upset like glad drakes do

wheat jay
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Yep, but its more common now than in past expansions like wod or legion

elder wigeon
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I don't think so

graceful quarry
elder wigeon
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piloting and boosting was big in mop

graceful quarry
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if they give seasonal mounts

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as well

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that look good

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pvp rate gna drop to 0

sharp meteor
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why wouldn't they be that's so weird to think they'd make a new mount each season

wheat jay
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Imagine seasonal raid mount

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Or recolor of glad mount for 3k score

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I would fucking Die from laughing too hard

sharp meteor
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soccer moms losing their shit that the mount they buy a carry to isn't completely unique

graceful quarry
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glad should be % based

sharp meteor
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it should be

wheat jay
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So

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Like 2300 right now for eu?

undone pumice
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we should hard reset wow to 5.4

wheat jay
elder wigeon
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lololol

sharp meteor
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glad cutoff rn is like 2600 on na or something

elder wigeon
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class design was significantly better in mop that's for sure

undone pumice
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im so fucking sad i didnt play during retail mop literally EVERYTHING about it seems fucking poggers

wheat jay
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For eu its like 2300 iirc

sharp meteor
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u should've been there to hear all the dumb dudebros mad about pandas

elder wigeon
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it was the glory days of pvp

sharp meteor
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then missed out on the best expansion

wheat jay
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Na giga inflated compared to eu

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Easier region

low cobalt
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same, i judged a book by its cover and saw panda and said fuk this and didnt play

sharp meteor
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ya na bungled mmr day one

elder wigeon
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lmao

undone pumice
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i remember watching my brothers play wow then over their shoulder

sharp meteor
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partner queued and it was like 3k

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and he's like bro it's day one what happened

undone pumice
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seeing them grind for hours mining ghost iron ore to sell on ah for sandstone drake

nimble jasper
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ksm is barely an achieve

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dont understand the mald

graceful quarry
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i didnt have a pc that could run wow when mop was retail

elder wigeon
wheat jay
undone pumice
graceful quarry
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cringe

sharp meteor
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but presumably dmg was done because

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na jacked relative to eu

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2400 rn is like top 2k

wheat jay
graceful quarry
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they shouldve just hard reset it

sharp meteor
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actually tho

undone pumice
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every expansion?

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greater than 0

wheat jay
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S1 had mmr reset iirc

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Which resulted in sitful gladiators lmao

undone pumice
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oh u meant sl s1

wheat jay
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People sitting rating for half a year or longer

sharp meteor
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s1 was like 3200 week 7 or something so they rugged mmr

wheat jay
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Ye s1 sl

sharp meteor
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probs most active season

undone pumice
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thought tbc lmao

sharp meteor
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everybody just flyin up

graceful quarry
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if they dont bring %rating back there should be decay

undone pumice
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u have memory issues gg

nimble jasper
sharp meteor
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wish i did rbgs in sinful so i got hero and never had to touch them again

nimble jasper
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to you

undone pumice
sharp meteor
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eh idk decay might be fucky. easier to just bump to 2700 or 0.5%

nimble jasper
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man never responded to me

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on why he constantly queue dodged cdew

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in sinful

lucid walrus
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rovicus moment

undone pumice
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0-2.1k no decay
2.1k+ 100decay/week
2.4k+ 150decay/week

elder wigeon
sharp meteor
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150 lmao

undone pumice
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what

nimble jasper
undone pumice
elder wigeon
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pressing reck and skull banner was so fun

graceful quarry
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just make it like league challenger decay

elder wigeon
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you just fucked on everyone

undone pumice
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its any rating past 2.1

graceful quarry
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if u dont play

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u decay

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if u do

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u dont

undone pumice
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league decay is like

sharp meteor
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glad is top 10k players not top 200

undone pumice
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one day u are chall 1k lp

sharp meteor
lucid walrus
undone pumice
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u dont play 2 days

graceful quarry
undone pumice
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back to masters pisslow u go

sharp meteor
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wish they'd add elite glad for 2700 or something now

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same mount with lots of extra spikes and glow or something

nimble jasper
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all they had to do

lucid walrus
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glad 2

nimble jasper
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was add a cutoff tracker

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ingame

sharp meteor
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Gladiator II keks

nimble jasper
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that updates dynamically

undone pumice
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glad 2 electric bogaloo

lucid walrus
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the other ranks were good enough to warrant a 2 apparently

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why not glad

raw summit
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pilav making the full turn from pvp andy to hall of fame mythic raider with top 10 logs is impressive

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ngl

sharp meteor
undone pumice
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i dojt think he was full pvp andy?

lucid walrus
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jesus christ

graceful quarry
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wasnt he always raiding tho

sharp meteor
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Man last season was a wreck.

undone pumice
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he was just

nimble jasper
raw summit
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since EP i think

nimble jasper
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r1 in pvp is higher skill level

undone pumice
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get 2.4k, film video in bg, and do mythic raid

nimble jasper
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than most mythic guilds

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nowadays

raw summit
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well r1 title and famed title on same char

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is kinda cool

graceful quarry
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top 20 guild still prolly over

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r1

nimble jasper
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famed slayer (alliance guild)

sharp meteor
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i know somebody in a top 10 guild who can't get duelist in 2s keks

nimble jasper
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as what class

sharp meteor
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he was even in the #1 guild at one point

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shaman

nimble jasper
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oh

raw summit
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rshamn?

undone pumice
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famed slayer of the banished one philwar
cosmic gladiator philwar

nimble jasper
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was gonna say mage

undone pumice
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make it happen

elder wigeon
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jesus christ mop d-stance would function so much better than this d-stance

sharp meteor
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yeah i feel like mage doesn't carry over at all

nimble jasper
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mage is the one class where i swear

raw summit
sharp meteor
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pve mage useless in pvp

nimble jasper
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nothing carries

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all the pve mages

elder wigeon
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you rage generation is fucked in d-stance, you wouldn't be able to ignore pain with mop d-stance

nimble jasper
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wanting duelist badge

undone pumice
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buttface admiral zw

nimble jasper
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in s1

graceful quarry
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name a more iconic duo than resune and mop

raw summit
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also MOP andy critting for 260k when pilav had 460k...

undone pumice
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me and bad

raw summit
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more than 50% peepo

nimble jasper
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bruin and malding

raw summit
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^

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win

graceful quarry
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true

undone pumice
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execute and execute

graceful quarry
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@bruin

undone pumice
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(true combo)

graceful quarry
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where is he

undone pumice
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@ndogofury

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where is he

graceful quarry
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in the warlock discord

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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prob rerolled off lock

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like the other 30% of them

undone pumice
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so wheres he now

sharp meteor
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why demo is great

undone pumice
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outlaw

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outlaw

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he is outlaw

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he has lost 80% of his musclemass already

nimble jasper
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ngl

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killing the felguard

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is funny as shit

sharp meteor
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it really is

nimble jasper
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lock players even worse at healing it

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than hunters

lucid walrus
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dude ain't in ravenholdt

thick reef
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whats a working mouseover intervene macro i guess i dont know how to make it

lucid walrus
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here's what i use, plus charge. don't need the semicolon or "charge" after it for vene to work

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lean burrow
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pressing intervene

nimble jasper
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i remember in mop if you tried to intervene touch of death it’d kill you 100-0

elder wigeon
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that happens now

nimble jasper
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i dont think touch kills you from 100%?

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thought it does like 30k

elder wigeon
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it does 50k dmg

nimble jasper
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oh

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psure mop touch straight up did your entire hp pool

elder wigeon
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not 100% but if ur close enough to intervene that monk has you at half health just by existing

nimble jasper
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regardless

lean burrow
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is there any reason why heroic throw is min 8 yd range to use?

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is it gonna be op if it's 0-30 yd

elder wigeon
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throwback from when you could heroic throw silence I guess

sharp meteor
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Kind of like how they took dizzying haze away because boomers just pressed it a lot because the tooltip said "generates high threat"

lean burrow
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well hamstring is not part of rotation either

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slam on fury too

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weird

sharp meteor
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Their attempt to unprune some stuff was weird.

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Arcane shot, slam

indigo barn
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Did it have a min range for its 1.0 version?

lean burrow
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enh shams got three buttons they need to constantly press

indigo barn
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When it clapped

lean burrow
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damn so annoying

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maybe blizz will make all 30-60 min duration buttons passive in dragonflight

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pressing shout on warr and windfury/flametongue on enh is worst part of the game

indigo barn
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Didn't they do that in mop?

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Where they were aoe passives

near delta
lean burrow
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I shout at my mount every time I summon it

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just for 5% buff

frail badge
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can i equip two of the same conquest weapons?

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as fury

near delta
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Yup weapons aren't unique equip

frail badge
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ok thank you

warped warren
nimble jasper
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but players are just stupid ig

dim scarab
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What order should I buy conquest gear???

near delta
mild thunder
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who do you target against demo/ele in 3s?

elder wigeon
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demo lock, cleave pet, kill it stop lock from casting

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run on tyrant or kill it

nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor ngl i feel like best thing when playing new alts

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is just queueing double dps 2s

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cuz healers legit dont have hands

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and someone pops in opener

sharp meteor
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mmmm yeah need fast wins/losses anyways just for conq and stuff

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most efficient so far has been bricking booster char for like 10 losses in a row with a 0 cr char, then losing 5-7 placements on new char, then winning like 30 or so in a row

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chill farm honor a bit for upgrades then wrap up duelist

stuck karma
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What pvp talents are ppls choice vs Hunter+healer?

sharp meteor
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I've just been playing doubletime and then bloodrage if surv

lucid walrus
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double time warbringer

stuck karma
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Do one keep bolt, or switch to double time?

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Ah.. Yeah

sharp meteor
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i don't play bolt into hunters

lucid walrus
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feels pretty rare to kill them in a stun

sharp meteor
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just maximize uptime and they implode pretty quickly

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their healer usually needs to be good with roots/clones or mind controls but they're panicking so much about their hunter exploding that they neglect to do that

stuck karma
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Blood rage aswell? Slaughter/warbringer/blood rage with double time?

sharp meteor
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conq, reck, signet avatar then double charge damage plus spammable raging blow is just unreal amounts of damage into a hunters face if they don't legit line you

stuck karma
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Havent made signet yet, gotta craft that one

sharp meteor
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slaughter/enduring/bloodrage feels like standard to me

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idk i play either of the two but 99% of the time it's slaughter/enduring/x minus stuff like low uptime or no healing aka rm

stuck karma
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Thanks good sir

sharp meteor
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enduring just feels hard to pass up when you're sticking to somebody

stuck karma
#

Yeah i agree

sharp meteor
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bloodrage is also a ton of rage, like, 40 over 4 every 20 is nuts

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warbringer double root duration plus 5-20k hit

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tricky tricky

opaque whale
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i wish signet only procced avatar😭

sage raptor
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Should prolly procc you some bitches too

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.>

fickle forge
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Can't do that if you play fury

kind sail
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Guys, do you recomed use reckl and banner at the same time?

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Because Im thinking about doing a macro

warped warren
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only macro i have is the bis macro

kind sail
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what is the bis macro?

lean burrow
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/cast mortal strike

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/cast ignore pain

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or vice versa, whatever

warped warren
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na was

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overpower
ip

fluid surge
#

Playing fury/rdru finding it hard vs some comps especially rm. Playing rm and disarm. But any general playstyle how do play it 😅?

shy aurora
#

Human warr decent ?

kind sail
fickle forge
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Reroll arms+Hpala and farm RM, izi

kind sail
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I played DH the whole season, now im playing warr and rm is x1000 easier

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you can disarm, fear, intervine, break the ice cube, defensive on stun...

fickle forge
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Don't see much of a difference between that and incap, backflip, fly, double stun etc.

kind sail
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As DH you die in stun, as warr you have 15k more hp, defensive on stun, 70% slow

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You can train and kill the mage so ez

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As DH, without slow you are not gonna kill anyone

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As warr you can reflect polly

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With banner you cant be slowed

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You can clean slows and roots with pvp talent

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with filo you are inmue to cc

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you can clean sap

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Its just my opinion, but in my experience warr is x100 better than DH vs RM

fickle forge
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I mean yeah, the former is true but the ladder hardly matters?
Not like DH lacks uptime ever, and reverse shuts down a go entirely

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DH just takes too much dmg from rogue and warr is too forgiving

kind sail
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If you want to use reverse you need to trinket

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Because you are gonna be perma cc

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As warr you are orc or human

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So its less time

fickle forge
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Yeah Idk man, it wasn't really a prob for me when I was DH

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Backflip the step+kidney and you were 👌

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Reverse the poly and go was over

kind sail
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I was tooo bad backfliping the kidneys XD

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Maybe thats why I dont like DH into RM

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XD

warped warren
warped warren
kind sail
kind sail
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As Dh you cannt press nothing

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And as I said, you have 15k more hp

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The only thing I miss as DH is the 45sec cd blur XD

fluid surge
kind sail
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I feel more confortable with warbringer and 2x charge tbh its too much dmg

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11k crit charge in burst XD

fluid surge
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Yee like watched some good warrior he said he only played 2xcharge warbringer kinda

kind sail
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Mud?

fluid surge
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Yes 😆

kind sail
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Love him hahahahaha

fluid surge
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You change deep wounds talent to disarm vs rm or?

shy aurora
#

I wanna faction change my alt warr to ally. Do i go GNOME warr or human warr??

kind sail
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disarm, warbringer and bloodrage (clean slows and roots)

kind sail
fluid surge
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Ohh I haven't tought about that stuff feels like it will be way more easy with that 😁

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You play sephuz/bm trinket also or?

kind sail
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The extra bladestorm its too good vs rogue mague

warped warren
fluid surge
kind sail
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But a lot of people run signet in every comp

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Mud for example

fluid surge
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hm I see guess both works!

kind sail
kind sail
kind sail
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Mvqdh have a VERY low win rate against RM

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And he said that is nearly imposible to do something as DH vs that comp

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In every go you need to trink + nether or you insta die

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And you dont have the burst, cc or slows to kill someone between goes

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Your dmg is very very RNG due to necro demon and chaos theory if running

warped warren
#

sounds like cope

kind sail
#

Anyway, RM is fucking op this expa (even more)

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There is no way that a rogue can 100 - 0 you in one kidney xd

warped warren
#

imagine getting deleted by a 32k execute without cds

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raw summit
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skill gapped

warped warren
#

fr fr

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gigachad arms > turbo cringe fury keks

simple rock
#

nice job by him hitting into thorns at 50%

warped warren
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yea i mean

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he prob didnt expect to get detlepeted

simple rock
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true, he wasn't ready for the big outplay

sharp meteor
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im like hm enduring proc

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hm execute proc

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oh he died from half health neateo

deft grail
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guys what leggo do i go as fury warr?

raw summit
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Signet or DM

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Either works

deft grail
#

half ppl make deathmaker, half tormented kings

raw summit
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Personal preference

deft grail
#

i was thinking tormented kings make more sense since i have double root removal

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deathmaker isnt that worth it, or is it

pseudo bobcat
#

is sony digital good

sharp meteor
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Signet feels nice if you're generally killing people during conq/reck as you can semi-reliably juice those with the extra avatar/reck/storm, but if you're just slamming damage into one guy for 5 minutes until they die then dm feels nice.

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Sephuz also feels pcool into rm especially as Orc

wheat jay
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yay awc

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oh its rmp again

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😴

near delta
#

Poor delirium lol

sand shadow
inland rover
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yo, i've been running lots of 3s with my premade buddies (Hpriest, Unholy and Fury)
but we always find ourself running in circles and pointlessly switching between targets. Any tips for how melee cleave should be played?

warped warren
sand shadow
zinc coral
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what legendary should i play as fury in 2s?

sharp meteor
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dm or signet

zinc coral
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whats better

sharp meteor
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idk pick one

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both good in diff ways

ocean patrol
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What legendary should I use for prot 2s

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And what covenant

sage raptor
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I don't think I've ever played prot without the leap leggo

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Kyrian or necro are good covenants

full quiver
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But someone else linked this which then wouldn't make sense 🤔

wheat jay
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cuz its full hit

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if its 20k and 10k overkill, then it was 30k hit

full quiver
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That's how I interpreted it but donkey said otherwise

wheat jay
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i don't trust donkey

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at least not on that one

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O_O

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imma try to confirm it 🙂

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1sec

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actually

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donkey might be right

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yep, he's right, if its 20k and 10k overkill then it was 20k hit

sage raptor
#

Well yeah. How do you get hit for health you don't have?

full quiver
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So how does my SS make sense

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Shouldn't it be 1771 damage 1228 overkill if that was the case

wheat jay
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that's how

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you sent combat log

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details shows things differently

full quiver
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Ah ok

wheat jay
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ye i was confused for a moment too

full quiver
#

I guess that makes sense lol

wheat jay
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btw

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where glad?

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hm

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biatch

full quiver
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Lol

fickle forge
opaque whale
#

what talents do u run for ret/war

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stormbolt or double time

sharp meteor
#

i feel like i only ever really see retwarr play bolt unless maybe it's some hpriest team and the warr is playing fury then impending

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like you can play anythhing on the row depending on what u queue into but bolt is best generalist pick imo especially as arms

undone pumice
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bolt neverbad

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impending bad based on ur team

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warbringer aggro destruction

undone pumice
ember totem
near delta
unborn sonnet
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how tf do u beat spellcleave as ret war

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feels like they just stand 40y apart

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and we cant prevent any cc cos we're in africa

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dno if we just being retarded or what

frail badge
#

use double time and the honor talent that roots with charge if your not already i think based on what i have been told in game but im not sure beyond that

inner elbow
#

is doi still good after the nerf? or do we use smth else like vicious contempt

lucid walrus
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nerf was a net 2sec reduction, very negligible

inner elbow
#

true but the conduit lost a lot of value, feels bad to use imo

opaque whale
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playing fury against any caster or hunter is literally being in africa lol

full kiln
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what to use instead?

wheat jay
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If you're kited by anything as fury you kinda need to git gud

unborn sonnet
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very useful reply ty^^

wheat jay
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You have two charges, unlimited charges during recklesness, root break, bladestorm, another root break/bladestorm from signet, heroic leap

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If you're kited as fury then you're not using your skills

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That's all there is to it

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Ahh and reflect

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Did I forget anything?

unborn sonnet
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i didnt say anything about being kited

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u have a healer and eg mage/lock

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u cant stop fear/poly if u go healer

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even with 2 charges

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unless theyre pissbrain and stand ontop of u

wheat jay
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That's what you get for going healer

unborn sonnet
#

but lock/mage virtually unkillable even without healer

wheat jay
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You're exposed to being attacked and cc'd by his teammates

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Ok that's bullshit

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Lock melts now

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Cuz of demon armor removal

lucid walrus
#

lock dies and frost can vaporize

unborn sonnet
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idk doesnt feel like it

wheat jay
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Frost mage also dies quite fast

unborn sonnet
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we're only like 2-2.1 mmr but like

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it feels like they either melt in 2 globals or they live 4ever

wheat jay
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They are far from being tanky

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They can survive everything for like 10 seconds

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Then they just die

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And isn't fury the highest dps spec in pvp right now?

unborn sonnet
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my man

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im not asking for a class description

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im asking what ppl do into certain comps

fickle forge
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Training down healer is the most 'ret+warr' brain strat

unborn sonnet
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ye thats what i figured

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why think when big bonk do trick

fickle forge
#

But clearly it doesn't

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Maybe consider hitting a different target, like lock

wheat jay
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Just train dps and have healers as opportunity targets

unborn sonnet
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thank you:)

wheat jay
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Lock would make for the best target to train down

fickle forge
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Can't complain about being peeled by two free casting casters, switch up your kill target if you can't deal with the CC spam

wheat jay
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Just don't die to Tyrant

unborn sonnet
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ye thats the entire problem tho

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say we go lock in mage/lock

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the lock is freecasting frostbolts for 15k dps

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we go mage

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the lock is doing the same

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it just feels like we cant compete with the dmg even when we're both pumping

fickle forge
wheat jay
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If they pop all their cooldowns, and deathborne from mage

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You need to kite it

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And los

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You will never survive free casting Frost mage

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Pillar is your friend

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And once their cooldowns are over, go back to training lock down

unborn sonnet
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il shadowplay next time we get a rough game n post it, ty ^^

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and ye fair, fkin love frost

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really fun and engaging class

wheat jay
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Lmao ye

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Don't bother stunning them either

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Blink removes stun iirc

unborn sonnet
#

yea

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appreciate the replies

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kinda wish the meta wasnt as bursty though

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its fun to global ppl but its a lot more fun to actually outplay

wheat jay
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Some like it, some hate it

unborn sonnet
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wish i pvped pre bfa

wheat jay
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There's still plenty of room to outplay people

unborn sonnet
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or pre sl even

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yea for sure

wheat jay
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Maybe not as ret warr tho ratge

pseudo bobcat
#

What sepparates a good warrior from a great warrior

wheat jay
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Knowledge

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And the size of their arms

raw summit
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bench pr

pseudo bobcat
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Sick

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Do ya'll know any good warr youtubers or streamers

raw summit
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trille mud dekel zrey and i think some more

pseudo bobcat
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Thanks bro

wheat jay
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Joe "Fernandes" Fernandes

lucid walrus
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joe “joefernandes” fernandes

raw summit
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him aswell

sharp meteor
undone pumice
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true

opaque whale
#

i need to hit 2400 now ugh

undone pumice
#

mud a lot better than thw rest

elder wigeon
#

Smexxin, magnusz

sharp meteor
elder wigeon
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the 3 NA warriors that are a cut above the rest in no particular order is smexxin revolol and magnusz

undone pumice
#

lies

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where is teapot

elder wigeon
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him and I are the same xp

sharp meteor
undone pumice
#

yeah u2 are specially good

near delta
unborn sonnet
#

swifty is the best warrior in the world

sharp meteor
#

he went horde

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nelf dream is dead

warped warren
#

imcredible warrior tricks sadge

sharp meteor
#

i mean the good swifty not the boomer one

lucid walrus
#

why'd he even choose to take that name

simple rock
twin sinew
#

Playing TSG and struggling into mm/bm hunter X (not jungle). Should we be training hunter to stop more traps? We've been training melee/heals but lose pretty quick with the heals getting cc'd

sharp meteor
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Yeah, Hunter should beat the shit out of DK.

twin sinew
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They tend to go me as war, hunter is just feels so shit to try and chase down while melee is peeling you

sharp meteor
#

Sticking on Hunter as Warr generally feels fine it's more that you can't get your dk/enh on them.

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Turning and hitting Feral is good in those scenarios.

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Is your DK Unh because I thought you had to ignore hunter in those scenarios

twin sinew
#

yep unh dk

sharp meteor
#

Ye craven rips wounds off as well as diseases seems like inting to hit hunter for that

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just play to kill their teammate on first or second limb i think

twin sinew
#

Hunter is a really bad target for him so we've been ignoring but we just die to the hunter landing every trap on healer

sharp meteor
#

Gotta try to cycle stuff in response to the inevitable traps but really it can be rough

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defensive stuff then running around pillars until second limb and conq etc

mystic barn
#

it rips off literally everything in unholys kit

elder wigeon
#

we love hunters

mystic barn
#

Spend 5 gcds build up on hunter

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Craven

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By the time you reset up everything

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Craven

full quiver
sharp meteor
#

We love craven, kill shot procs and kill shot dot leggo not getting any adjustments for the entire expansion.

lean burrow
#

I'm leveling orc warrior cuz I enjoy warriors, how much better is orc in pvp than human?

sharp meteor
#

Quite a bit. Sephuz also becomes an option, which is nice.

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I'm a couple days away from griefing my teammates with a worgen warrior.

lean burrow
#

furry

sharp meteor
#

I wanna run some poor Hunter into the ground while moving at mount speed.

lean burrow
#

aspect of cheetah vs aspect of furry

sharp meteor
#

This season is going to be long enough that I setup a tauren and troll warrior, probably

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I'm going to be like mud except bad where I just have like 10 warrs at 2500

lean burrow
#

"bad"

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2500

sharp meteor
#

Despair starts setting in as I watch beardman or nahj split my shaman in half for the xth game in a row

undone pumice
#

despair sets in when i see hahabubil dome my healer once again

sage raptor
#

I wish my bad was 2500 lol

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One day 🙏

sharp meteor
#

dw u will get there

sage raptor
#

I just have to simply not lose

near delta
warped warren
#

sounds like a legit strat

warm urchin
sage raptor
#

Oooooof you're like half a season too late lol. Losses are already double my wins on my warrior lol.

wanton vault
#

Im not sure what covenant i should play with. Necro or Kyrian. I play arena and rbg.

elder wigeon
#

both are good

lean burrow
#

so annoying compared to easy to use fleshcraft

sage raptor
#

Pressing any buttons is annoying tbh. Like, battleshout AND fleshcraft?

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I could get married and have kids by the time I'm done doing both of those.

flint steeple
#

Hey guys there is 2 recommended legos for pvp is one better then the other in some parts of pvp? And if so what r they?

elder wigeon
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signet offers utility of bladestorm procs making you immune to cc obv

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dm is much better single target dmg

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signet is also much higher burst

lean burrow
sharp meteor
flint steeple
#

L okey thanks

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🙂

fluid surge
#

Against any specific comp signet is better and dm is better? Signet better vs like hunters/rog/mage? For cc bladstorm?

elder wigeon
#

people usually play one or the other for every single game they play

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whichever they like the most

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which most prefer signet

undone pumice
#

sudden resune

sharp meteor
#

but really just try both out into various matchups, see how they both feel

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i am also still advocate of sephuz as orc into rogue/mage

fluid surge
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Yee gonna do that but ye feels like signet is more guarantee dmg. Dm is abit rng and can loose much value on proccs ect.

sharp meteor
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signet is the more reliably juice for your conq/reck and i like it for that

fluid surge
#

Ye I play sephuz/bm trinket vs rog/mag

sharp meteor
#

but lets say your comp isn't about 1-banging them during conq/reck, or their comp is good at stopping that

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dm is kind of just the "im doing damage" pick where your "go" is just a chance after each rampage

fluid surge
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2s warrior/rdruid so no 1 bang rly

sharp meteor
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oh i mainly play rdruid fury for 2s and good chunk of games were banging hunters in opener

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druid vortexes hunter then stuns healer

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actually hm mix of druid and pal depending on how my healer is feeling

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you actually run over people so hard with signet if you spin cc

fluid surge
#

I see! Btw can you help me with 1 question when do I play disarm vs what. And stun vs double charge/warbringer. And when heal talent 😅 I am dh main so abit lost., so apriciete all help I can get ^^. Ye def gonna try signet just been playing dm but feels kinda meh alot of the time

sharp meteor
#

Disarm vs fdk and other warriors, then rogue/mage

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Not sure on the stun/charge/heal row, just depends on which char my healer is on and how i feel about the matchup

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it's kind of like "what does bolt do for me here". Into fury? My stun drops his stacks on me, his enrage falls off, and i overall take less damage from that bolt especially during his cds than i would've healed with impending. also double time mobility not as useful here unless im trying to smurf 1-bang him or his healer

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pend in general feels weak because damp, everybody has ms and you generally die in stuns

elder wigeon
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i love impending when i get shived and it heals for 10k

indigo barn
#

You don't die

elder wigeon
#

yeah i guess

indigo barn
#

But bolt always good

sharp meteor
#

yeah if you queue into something like uhh

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maybe warlock? lmao

indigo barn
#

Gateless warlocks

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Legless mages

sharp meteor
#

gonna send bolt/dt every game until I find a matchup where I'm like "shit, this isn't doing anythin gfor me"

indigo barn
#

Arms less arms

sharp meteor
#

i try pending in 3s and my shaman wails

indigo barn
#

It's also something that people will notice and exploit the fact you can't bolt

sharp meteor
#

mhm

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i imagne pend feels great with like unh tsg

ember totem
#

Hey guys and girls, what piece do you craft on unity when you are revered? Cheers

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The only pvp item I do not have is the waist

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Pvp waist with haste and versa*

main path
#

hey guys do we still play arms kyrian in pvp or new covenant and fury ? what is better ?

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came back after a long time

lucid walrus
#

necro fury’s good fun, kyrian arms is well suited for something like turbo

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arms is still playable or potentially better when with a hybrid like in ret/war or turbo

elder wigeon
#

pretty much the only two comps where you can make an argument for arms over fury

lucid walrus
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basically ya

main path
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ok thanks

inland rover
sharp meteor
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enh/arms/x

undone pumice
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isnt hpal historically the healer associated with turbo?

full kiln
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bro

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these arenas

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idk

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anymore

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run and chase

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what is this game xd

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like mages blinking all over

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warlocks teleporting all over

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demonhunters flying all over

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warriors charging 10x

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what is this man

echo anvil
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Some advice needed... im getting destroyed as a Fury by melee cleaves... RET like 1 shots me... im with a DH. Ive never played fury but went it recently and do I need to kite a lot as Fury to survive double melee?

Or am i doing something wrong? (quite possible as im a noob to fury)