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I thought I'd like the team fight
But you're just doing PVE rotation
And I came to PvP because pve was too boring
So I either quit WoW
or just go back to rogue
Which basically arenas in rbg
idk this game I mean it's actually not enjoyable
Rogue highest skill cap in cap no cap
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Maybe I go heals
is glorious tyranny illusion obtainable?
no
sad
Only if you were duelist/hero in s14-15.
very one dimensional spec
shitty binary 2 button spec
arms damage feels better to do
Yeah lots of 1D specs
What's 10D?
Sucks because seems like classes only have 1 ideal spec besides rogue mage
eh I'm capping
how's ret feel?
Tbh I might just play a kiting class
these are like 5 different almost mutually exclusive points
Bro im begging u pick a class and stick
Ret feels worse than fury its so boring
Feral theres a lot to do
Truth
Fury is more damage 
I think i''m retarded or something
been doing more dmg as arms consistently
after switching in 3s
what comp?
ret war mw
beast
it's too easy to do way more dmg as fury
it's probably because at my current mmr we rarely see casters or hybrid comps
it's just melee cleave
lately anyways
unironically it still has one of the highest skill ceilings
having a super bloated toolkit tends to do that
the problem is rogue skill floor
has fallen to the pits
mage has probably one of the highest skillcaps still
nice strawberry banana looking ass
lmao hell yeah
fury is better accept it
based
Things are heating up in the PvP channel 
You're all wrong. Prot is the only correct answer.
No.
yes 
Arms dog poopy
you can hit some big numbers randomly
Overpower hitting harder than ms lmao, yea that sounds random af
absolutely not
????? 20k op hahahah
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the hate on prot warriors in rbgs is unreal XD
is that meta slaving I smell?
RBGs is trash content
Current arenas are uh suboptimal
wtb removal of borrowed power
wtb removal of rmp
wtb removal of fury
well the power we have now won't be taken away so it's not really borrowed power atm
just dogshit balance
Feel like that's only true when you maximize sweeping usage
Also the fact that no fury warr presses WW ever for some reason
Should we be pressing ww
The other day someone said you lose tons of pressure and I was like huhhhh
In 3s what's the hardest match up for ret/warr/x?
got 27:0 bg fury is so sick
skill issue
Any caster cleave and rmp
Really hard to keep 8 stack and use ww outside of reck
Idk, doesn't feel like it to me at least
4-set RNG reliant ofc
fury 
Fury is so 1D bruv
lol
hey as a Fury/Hpriest in 2s who should i be focusing as a kill target?
against what
just in general
there is no in general lol
i just dont know who to focus half the games i play
changes depending on what you fight
and what they use
okay here, against a fury hpal i should stick on fury most of the game right?
yes
other than interupting and fearing paladin
you hit whoever is more likely to die
lol
You hit either what's more likely to die or what you can stop the most pressure from
most uptime is a good rule of thumb and then vs rdruid you do need to do swaps
rdruid can smd
if your priest is boon you can get a good stun go with banner reck on rdruids
i like killing rdruids
same
most flop under pressure
lol yeah
the classic
they think they can kite the war without being on pillar sprinting
dr warstomp
trinket use iron bark all this other shit
to live
the problem is when you queue into hunter/rdruid and the hunter sucks but the rdruid is good
mich stop talking u dont even play this 2 button class anymore
feels impossible lol
what 2 button class
waer
are u forgetting charge and reck?
war?
it's 4 buttons ez
cb cb ramp
lassan funny story
seems to be what avg player thinks of warr
i killed an rdruid 2 days ago
no
thru darkness and tranq immune
lol
i remember killing hunters last season in spear
by sweeping strikes on their pet
when they wait to 10% to turtle
lol
Any time I try to exe somebody in darkness, I exclaim that I'm about to play the lottery
I lose most of the time
lol
@wheat jay is this true
depends
so many dhs dark so low
that if youโre playing a spec with multiple hits
it doesnt matter
i've been on and off about Double Time/ Stormbolt too i feel like they're both great into each comp
Double time Warbringer is for gigachad fury warriors
what is?
yessir
i still love how that twitter meme
is legit describing you
โjust kite the fury on his slaughterhouse stacksโ
the fury: 2 arcanite rippers doublecharge and banner
Good weps
Bingo!
i always lose 
sometimes i consider fearing them out of it
See the issue?
Prot war
Tank hate aside it makes sense they have that armor pen thing
Find weakness
ye sub rogues
Imagine playing tanks in arena
Imagine playing shadowlands
i need a fury war to queue with my 1.9 mw:(
tbh that got nerfed partially
thats why evis also does shadow dam now
back in the day find weakness used to ignore like 80% armor
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Vs melee cleaves where you need disarm and slaughterhouse, is enduring rage or battle trance the recommendation?
You can play with my WW monk, Brucesweep
Bruce U
They usually stop hating when I get to the other side of the BG in 7 seconds
Being sad makes me unstoppable and idk why.
Gz dude
leaper โค๏ธ
Either is fine. I think most people go battle trance now that it works with crushing blow.
Tbh, I find myself still playing warbringer double time into cleaves when playing with a stun heavy class like feral or dh. The extra mobility and burst offers nice healer swap potential.
grats bro 
Thanks! Actually had the question after watching some of your vods and seeing you run it into most comps. Godlike gameplay ๐๐ป. I would love to run warbringer double time but not sure if i can give up the stormbolt crutch
still playing with a disc priest without unity
Stormbolt va Double time is a very common question. Both feel really good for fury.
Some warriors like the utility of stormbolt and are generally playing hpriest turbo or ret/war where bolt feels required.
I play disc kitty & disc dh war in 3s so we already have a lot of stuns and I find the extra damage and mobility more useful.
Disc is really hard to play right now because it's playstyle is very team reliant.
But i think disc is really good
Disc can hardly do damage now because of how low atonement healing is and how little time you have to actually do damage. It can sometimes do a few big penances but disc also has some of the best offensive team utility. Double dispel, thought-steal, dark arc, PI, Mindgames...
I swear disc is really good, it's just super hard to play right now over the S+++ free cr holy.
You also need to play a lot of disc to understand what cds save you. PSing at 70%(so it heals you to full) still isnt even enough on some major cds like bust and blades. Even if its a 130% PS.
reminds me of an rmp vs jungle clip early season
The ultimate skill is dying and coming back
just kill when he rezzes
o wait
gfade
serenity
Yeah sometimes you need to literally use every cd in the opener then rely on your team to save you the rest of the game which is why I think people dont like disc. Once you survive the opener a disc can slam a mage super hard with double dispel thoughtsteal.
A holy would prob just let rez lego proc on a go like this or would never have even been attacked because of the chance you might actually be running it.
Yes
just got my disc partner to 2.1
i think im ab to get it
needf 2 wins
thatd be so hype
Lol
nawww
THIS FUCKING GAME IS SO BAD ALL I DO IS SIT IN THE MIDDLE AND SWAP 25/8 AND THEY DONT DIE!
I feel completely useless against DH, any tips on how to play against it? i feel like they end up outdoing my damage and just tear through all i have (Fury/Hpriest 2s comp). I Disarm when they're in Meta and if im running bolt ill stun the for the 3 seconds during meta too but i still feel so weak
lmao you are not killing dh as warr in 2s unless they troll
full send on their healer and try to peel to the best of your ability
if you sit on DH you just get cleaved with your healer
if you're playing with priest he should be spamming MC on DH when you guys are healthy
got it thanks
LMAO
u have to get them to force blur or else they live thru ur shit lol
if u want to have any chance at killing the
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ndogo cameo
what about the darkness bs?
i run storm bolt warbringer enduring, usually save go until they blur from your 4pc proc then blow reck banner
can try to get your fear off on healer during or before go
most low cr people run straight at their healer and you get the double fear lol
not too sure, darkness is a toy cd compared to blur so if u ever wanna do a go on dh or burst just worry abt blur
20% dodge vs 80% lol
right yeah
can't decide between 281 pvp weapon or 259 gavel
got it thanks
You just force DH to play defensive by overwhelming him with unhealable dmg
yea what scoob is saying
yeah
once he blurs he has to use more for sure
u kill him thru everything
almost
then you blast him >:)
ya
so i guess i do focus the dh then huh
it's ok if you use it high
yea true
if you wait until you're 30% it's trash
No DH can facetank a warrior between the Blurs, only time is if you get outpressured during meta
ya
yea
they have to kite u or try to out preasure
and most of them r stupid and they blur high
unfortunately meta is up like 65% of the game now
lmao
true
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biggest problem with people playing dh
anyone willing and able to help a new player out ?
Havent played for a long time and want to pick up arena again.
even during META is ok
You can still win the meta battle, but if you fall behind on momentum it's you who are running
you can't trade even lol
its retarded
dh just has so much aoe built into their kit
ya
Why not? The choice is obvious.
yea
ya
uhhh alr
nah its usually healer dies still
because you gave him free dmg
and thus fall behind
Feel like trying to outperform DH at a healer race is doomed to fail
yea
i feel like anybody tanking conq/reck is inting
so what u guys are saying is, the kill condition would be when he blurs, and if hes on my healer i should swap to theirs so i dont get cleaved right?
is gavel that good? it does 30k damage mostly.. feels like i can get that with higher base dmg/+str/crit+vers over the course of a 3 min game
def
when its ad h with no blur
it feels so fucking nice
LOL
normal gavel isnt that great
cleave doesn't matter if u gonna kill him in 15 seconds
mythic gavel is
fury vs havoc is just hoping the dh ints blur and/or incap/stun
If its mythic yes. If not, chunk it.
then u press and they die
ya
You want my advice, try and overpower him with offense and force him to run or die
I was thinking if i found heroic it would be worth but 259 feelsbadman, ok ty Popo and mitch
they control the game after t hat sorta it feels
u fish for reck procs with tier to try to force blur
also
yea
u lose to rogue but everything else feels fine at least in bunga mmr
its stupid af
If you pve, your pvp weapon will probably sim higher too I'm guessing.
outlaw vs fury is you hope
can pop it opener in front of u
ya
cuz they just tank reck banner
Outlaw vs Fury is like watching two mongos in Chucky Cheese fighting over a piece of pizza on the ground.
ppl can peel u i think
its the same as bfa dk
@wheat jay We took another L vs RM 
healers who dont respond
or is it only fury
The occasional WW one trick
Fucking cheat death /spit
dilly did over 10k dam in a 3 min game i think?
cuz he claeved pets
lol
as jungle w axtin
2.5k+ 2s ๐
1200 rampages?
surprised that many warrs up there
is that what u mean
Fucking Q me the Quapy quote here
@fickle forge I'm am deeply sorry for beating you in 2s, I did not intend to hurt your feelings so badly for doubleing your loss count
class starts feelin pretty bad
i mean suprised*
into people with hands
teapot
Lmao
u think ppl play arms at high mmr
henlo
i thinkthey do no
they do in 3s
bc fury stops working
Remove all auto cheat deaths
o i meant in 2s
They suck
Any negative winrate gamers? >.>
ye
fury doesn't stop working but the lack of defensive is difficult into good cleaves
yeah i mean people generally say higher you go
Cause fury is lowkey good
No
more assa falls off
yea
because youโre squishier
10k dam = one and a fifth (1.2) rampages
and people stop your dam
ahhh
Low key?
idk arms and fury both good but imo fury better in 2s outright and in general at low-mid mmr
tho sub is prob deco into surv
At every mmr
sub hpriest that is
yea
did u mean 10k dps?
fury turb feelin pretty awful into any other fury cleave
ahh
idk why na priests
lol
yea furys pretty fucjibg crazy if u get hella procs
yea surv is crazy it was cleave tho
cos night fae is night gae
yeah it is
baboon of the ascended
nice to get procs while ur recking for longer reck
watching an hpriest almost solo someone
Bofa of the ascended
In 2s hpriest plays kyrian

For ez wins
ya
kyrian in 2s
o ya i see baboon a lot in 2s
on hpreist def bis lol
idk
Yep
see alot of venthyr at lower mmr
they just blast
in 3s its just like xiuni i think
idk why
i havent seen a venth ptiest since
maybe ofr setups idk
everybody else venth or sometimes nf
3s venthyr seems better
ya
for set up comps
i feel na plays it more than eu
Cuz theyre stupid
If Hpriest was nerfed to oblivion, the entire arena ladder would shift overnight
Yep, both 2s and 3s
ya
Rmp in shambles lmao
if hpriest was nerfed to oblivion itd just get replace by hpal
Most comical shit I've seen this season so far is destro lock dropping from 30% to 4% rep overnight

about rmp not being good
Hpala doesn't rule 2s
Good
lol
Rmp should be dogshit rn
waiting for hpriest change
it should
idk its not mistweaver
And apparently Rsham is overtaking it?
cuz more ppl play rsham ig
idk if for setups its even better
Any talent that shoots people in the sky should be deleted
sub hpriest with a kyrian priest
No other comp has 93% winrate at r1 range
mw feelin kind of shambly in 3s without outlaw/tanks/wizards
maybe rsham buffs helped
is fucking scary
anybody queuing some shit like mw turb is a god
Orc racial removal when?
ya
getting booned while rogue evis cheaps you
turbo with mw seems cool
but
sucks that mw can die in 1 stun without port or trink,
it was pchill last season until kitty popped up a lot
I cba having to be orc
mw+arms 2s is what got me my peak this ssn
farmed every wps into the dirt
now shadow is kind of shambly and aff is dead
Don't think MW is bad at alll
Don't @ me
lol
it isn't but requires specific comps
@ kargish
listen
@fickle forge mw good
as a generalist pick it's awful
i fucking hate trapping vs hpriest every game
@fickle forge
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oh yea LOL
for anyone
wtf rly?
ngl kawhi playing outlaw sp hpal looked dumb
Elemental fucking busted recently
with prot lego on the hpal
just 3 unkillable targets
Outdamaging everyone on the planet while being the kill target
idk why na doesnt play ele
and stormkeeper with sky is just 30% of ur hp
I did 900k as non kill target survi, he did 1.2mil dmg as a kill target
its so much dam
Ele tier set is just insanely strong
and all instant
Eles have dropped Stormkeeper
ya the bursts crank
it's trash now
it does like no dam
they run the
It's all Lava Burst now baby ๐ ๐
other thing
with vesper
and his 20 vesper alts
Who needs vesper if they send 10 lava bursts in 2 seconds
No
20k each lmao
NA unironically thinks ele is bad
LMAO
for some reason
true
Really?
Lmao
They are
cant ele equip a shield??
Healing, defensives
yeah
idk it kind of reminds me of mage players
so theyre pretty high armor too
low exp mages think mages flop easily
Bullshit
but you run into good mages
let a ele parry warbreaker fuck it
Mages are immortal
idk
BWINK stun
If they facetank dmg they flop
q low mmr 3s
idk most
with a shaman
3:
good players are kinda immortal
i'll have to upload it when i get
no cap they are
like i swear
had no clue what was going on
Meanwhile I was shitting bricks today playing against fury/ele lmao
ya
then our hpreist died lol
low exp mages
Fucking hell
but we ended up winning
anyone playing any class if good enough is sorta immoryal
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are the most useless players
like i knew people that did carries
refused to boost mages
@fickle forge skill issue
said cba too much effort
LOL
on that mages part
lmfaooooo
also its unreal
We had better shit today
how many mages forget to block
Against dk
if caut didnt exist
LOL
@fickle forge roll the clip Habibi
holy fuck that was so funny
Lmao
You have it
Oh right
i remember i ran into double frost mage once
frostbolt
โok this mage has to block thisโ
jk
crazy even f tier class like arms war can do that
dies no block
There we go
KAR
Artji did the literal same shit last season by hitting a 33k KS
https://app.squadov.gg/share/SporadicallyPhosphaturicVannesa
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Gaming ๐
Last season it was
yeah
Does zero dmg
i love it when they go 50-0
No
and you don't know what caused it until after
aight cool
i think game is super fun rnow
ya
while guy is immortal
ur dead whole game
I only resubbed cuz karighs was in my dms 24/7 annoying the fuck out of me
yea
lmao
@fickle forge xfer NA
i will queue with u anytime bb
those guys would farm me
i'm so ass at hunter still
it's hilarious
r ua hunter
scoob is an ugly anteater horse eater
or a warrior?
Kargish after one session with scoob
I can't swim
or both
karg would love me
u will fit in detroit
i play both
but fury isn't that fun compared to arms for me
then
i like survival better than fury
@fickle forge dont forget your pocket rifle to defend yourself
fury feels like you have no outplay
Fury is zug zug
it's just are you on the correct target hitting 2 buttons
Ultimate zug zug
the outplay is knowing when to swap lol
yea
Oh he did that today too
can't banner go
@fickle forge did you clip the hpala swap?
Sure did
Lmao
He wasnt dying today tbh
He found a way to live
That is, run the fuck away from Tyrant
kurwa
OUTPLAYED BITCH
Dude I went full monkey on the last game after winning hahaha


Well
kept killing my damn pet too
Dude I have a clip of Afro making the biggest monkey laugh I've heard yet
Fam, give me the clip of the last game today, the ending
That was pure fucking hate towards that shaman
i'm fukin queueing arms this weekend
ya
fooook fury
Cuts off before you finish your speech
maybe it'll feel less ass now
I said most iirc
its ok
but arms beginning of patch getting one tapped by sin rogue
u still deal big dam
made me mald so hard
yea
arms retwarr and killing every fury player 
Everyone gets tapped by sin rogue lmao
LMAO
best part is
pre parrying
as arms
fury can use enrage while stunned!
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u can wallat 100% with a full flesh
and still die thru
Trading with sin sometimes feels like ur just delaying ur death, as if u dont trade u die in 2 sec
but u die anyway eve nfi u trade just longer peroid
So playing double time/warbringer into hunters, anything more? and if not needed I play storm bolt. what comp does player play impending victory? or do you never use that talent?
Dude I was shitting bricks that game
So many times I was on the verge of death
like i swear
yeah fr
so many people would not know how to trade vs ww
Polish internet too bad for squadov, sorry habibi
if they didnt have 20 weakauras
you just gotta turn off auto upload
blowing airhorns
ya
Nah
and then manually select em after you're done
same w warbreaker
I have one thing against monks
lmao
it's super aids though lol
ww damage is super telegraphed tho
LMAO
It is
yea
unless its early s2
peircing howl
where they could just rando proc
sb
and kill someone they werent targeting
fear trinket
or just fucking parry if u have nothing idk
u just seem to have multiple stops for monk
and its so ez when to know
i had a dh first month of the season
gotta save bolt for that naughty fist of fury
to pets
on him
hahahaha
One time we had a game where WW killed Artji through disc big dome without targeting him
@fickle forge do u ever play duel still
if ww makes the mistaek of using images b4 sweep which they edont rly do often
or is it garbo now
was that early s2
I'm the kill target literally every game
if they do, u just press parry and u get it 100% of the time, legit a free pre parry lol
But I would if I wasn't for sure
Yah, it's still strong af
why would monks sef first
50% wall for your team
its off global
Yep
yea
i remebmer i was so bad at monk i used to never have trasncen even out
when i started pvp
in s2
Wmx?
i had a guy mald at me last night
whats that again
warr+mage
ah
cuz he had the big brain idea
do u fight that alot?
i dont ever see it kar
Sometimes we do
and getting every fist feinted
The pala swap game was one
warr/mage
lol
ahhhh
I played it ๐ ๐
gee


