youd rather a dk ret ?
#pvp
willow nymph
lucid walrus
mortal strikes are a dime a dozen rn
if ur ret dies in teamfight ur probably losing the teamfight anyway
opaque whale
but also if u have like 2 wars and a dk in rbg you will stomp
Unless ur high mmr
Anything below like 1.8-1.9 rbg is a joke with even one or two geared wars
Can solo healers lol
spice hornet
Rbgs omegalul
shut tangle
is fury war, lock heals a good comp at 2565
elder wigeon
fury demo?
shut tangle
yeah
elder wigeon
be weary of demo's ms bugging out slaughterhouse
other than that, yeah demo fury is good
lucid walrus
enrage before you press, should be some nice hits
sage raptor
This season sucks donkey dong
elder wigeon
yeah it's not good
elder wigeon
I didn't like any of the shadowlands sets
don't really care for the style, thematically it's all over the damn place
lucid walrus
its color just sucks
lucid walrus
i'm fond of the mythic set idk why we basically got a monochrome one
what was really shitty was its ptr version where the helmet's interior wasn't even shaded in
twilit ridge
You can force yourself into any rbg as a warrior
lucid walrus
talk with ur chest and ya
twilit ridge
that's how I got hero
I was able to communicate because most warriors are bad
Therefore good TC=spot every time
opaque whale
only hard part is knowing when to chase and when to fall back
other than that only cc u have to land is fear and maybe bolt… and do pve rotation lmao
full quiver
It's super hard to call
lucid walrus
tcing doesn't come naturally ya
twilit ridge
It's super hard to call
A lossa user would say this
full quiver
Ok in 5s we go ret I have sharpen
twilit ridge
I was being sarcastic kek
Stfu u know I love u
full quiver
Raimeyraimey
twilit ridge
I just hate ur lossa
full quiver
When are we doing lumberjack
twilit ridge
full quiver
Come back to wow
runic pollen
Arms or fury for 3s in 9.2.5?
runic pollen
Tsg =fury retwar =arms?
nimble jasper
there is outplay
you dont see it unless you q into r1 dhs imo
random 2.1 shitter dhs in 2s are incapable of anything but spamming damage
both fury and dh fall off considering 2s is an outlaw/hunter playground
once you get to real mmrs where people cc goes
lucid walrus
good use of dark/reverse is p rare in the depths
nimble jasper
yeah lol
only remotely challenging dh I’ve run into in SL was genji
rest is just a dps/healing check
every sl dh has been so shit they throw blur out like its a dps cd
lucid walrus
chun's built diffy
nimble jasper
queueing into offmeta double dps at higher mmr is spooky
lucid walrus
idk enough abt thug tbh
nimble jasper
cuz its real players
lucid walrus
ya for sure
i played into chun a few times at 2.4 last seas playin ww/brew
think i got mopped
lucid walrus
had that exp too
nimble jasper
yeah all the good dhs do it
random 2.1 dh will blur the instant they take dmg
when i ran into genji he instant vengeful and kites
when he starts dropping hp
most of the good dhs on na quit wow already though
mild thunder
any oce players have that annoying ass bug where the raging blow doesnt charge during reck with high ping?
or am i crazy
mild thunder
its so annoying 😐
pls blizz fix
exact same shit as the death sentence bug from s1/2
sharp meteor
it's the thing where the game thinks you're on top of them and doesn't charge you
certain things don't really count as movement, and i think moving forward makes it slower
as they seem to update your forward position less frequently presumably to sava data
opaque whale
time for ring of titans
Too bad its dead now
simple rock
was losing as fury now i'm winning as arms 
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
lucid walrus
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
opaque whale
arms is so sleeper
simple rock
arms is so sleeper
indigo barn
Why do you want to go arms over fury for Ret/Warr?
runic pollen
For me it feels like fury is to squizy and have no real deff cd... you can safe your ret ez with parry intervew ... (iam only 2,1k this ssn) but i tried arms now and feels for me much better in 3s than fury
The dmg is not so op but you feel more safe during the match
ember totem
hey folks, for rbgs is leaper the go to leggy as a prot warr? cheers
opaque whale
sounds about right but u must be a masochist to do rbgs as prot
lucid walrus
it can't immune cc for 30sec and stay virtually immune to slows, no
opaque whale
as long as u can swap to fury on maps where u dont need tnaks
but yeah any flag game against a guardian druid
insta loss
if skill is close
opaque whale
yep
mild thunder
what are thoughts on arms v fury for uh tsg?
wheat jay
Less squishy than dk 
mild thunder
guys you're supposed to say arms so i can ss and send to my 3s team 
opaque whale
Dont understand why ppl wanna play arms
it feels so clunky
fury big light up numbers happy
ember totem
arms is fun in pve but not pvp lol
wheat jay
because fury in pve is retarded one button piece of shit
smoky turtle
Just got one of these after shooting a guy off his mount to his death lmao
lucid walrus
had the guy on your btag?
smoky turtle
he added me
lucid walrus
ah
smoky turtle
and Iwas like who is this
wheat jay
Just got one of these after shooting a guy off his mount to his death lmao
is that an insult?
lucid walrus
let em know he can enjoy a 10day
smoky turtle
hehe
rugged rune
Fury or dh for 2/3s
smoky turtle
fury.
rugged rune
Hpriest or Rdruid
smoky turtle
google.
past snow
Which two legendaries for fury pvp?
lucid walrus
deathmaker/signet + unity
past snow
And reckless defender?
mild thunder
no
reckless defender is shit
-15s on reck and enraged regen if you're lucky and have max uptime
past snow
Thnx for feedback
mild thunder
also 99% of games you'll just take signet
elfin surge
signet for chads
elfin surge
none, I don't like the legendary.
It's good tho, I just like the 1 minute mini goes between my banner pop
warped warren
guys you're supposed to say arms so i can ss and send to my 3s team <:sadge:8202...
arms
i gotchu homie
mild thunder
ss and sent, thanks g
warped warren
warped warren
dont need to make ring 🤓
undone pumice
signet neck?
lean burrow
undone pumice
wooot
raw summit
el no sabe pepelaugh
smoky turtle
Really farming the salt today, I'm just trying to get my 25 kills quest done too 😦
mild thunder
Calmest mage player
smoky turtle
😄
mild thunder
Guaranteed deathborne abuser
smoky turtle
he actually was a frost lmao
ember totem
Really farming the salt today, I'm just trying to get my 25 kills quest done too...
Hahaha
Ppl are so funny man, they set themselves on warmode, getting pumped in their ass and whine
near delta
Ppl are so funny man, they set themselves on warmode, getting pumped in their as...
Tbf some people are assholes lol. Just sit and camp your body for 15 minutes.
fickle forge
guys you're supposed to say arms so i can ss and send to my 3s team <:sadge:8202...
Send them this
smoky turtle
Tbf some people are assholes lol. Just sit and camp your body for 15 minutes.
Ya I don't do that. I was just passing by and saw a mage and I attacked. Didn't look at hp, never do.
sand shadow
if only there was a way to prevent ganking built into the game 
near delta
Ya I don't do that. I was just passing by and saw a mage and I attacked. Didn't ...
Ya that's fine.
smoky turtle
only killed him the one time too
near delta
Dude was wildin lol
smoky turtle
yup, had a bad day or something
near delta
Only time I've ever actually swapped to an ally alt and said something was when this dude sat on my body for 20 minutes and kept stopping me from hearthing
smoky turtle
a 50k monk just made me fly off a cliff but I aint mad lmao
near delta
Had to get ressed from the angel healer thing and not play for 15 minutes or whatever it is
raw summit
a 50k monk just made me fly off a cliff but I aint mad lmao
Leap the fall
smoky turtle
yaaaa I already used it to get to him, was about to mount up lol
near delta
a 50k monk just made me fly off a cliff but I aint mad lmao
The rop of death
smoky turtle
Oh shit I forgot about my glider lma
near delta
Glider gaming
Zandalari bis
smoky turtle
lmao
raw summit
Oh shit I forgot about my glider lma
shift-5 glider 
smoky turtle
if you were to make a sham for 2v2, would you go ele or enhance
thinking of making one to pass the time while my mute is up
full quiver
In vanilla wow I used to sit in the STV at nessingway camp for hours killing lowbies
I found out when you mindcontrol you could type /emote and write out sentences and they'd be able to read it
So I'd talk trash to them too lmao
near delta
I found out when you mindcontrol you could type /emote and write out sentences a...
Wow now that's a toxic interaction lmao
nimble jasper
would also spam mc them in water / vs npcs to get them durability damage
i remember when people would mc people on the ratchet to bootybay boat
halfway and just drop them in the water
opaque whale
is dh/war any good in 3s
nimble jasper
b/a tier
twin sinew
So i’m struggling into fury war mirrors in 3s where I try to run in, pool some rage then send my dmg vs fury wars that run in, pop reck first global and ape me down/put us on the back foot.
When I watch high rated streams it seems they dont just ape in like that..
twin sinew
They usually give trinket on disarm or are sitting bladestorm from a proc. From what I understand the ideal opener is: build rage to one rampage, then conq banner, first rampage, reck, second rampage and normal prio from there
nimble jasper
except crushing blow still trucks
twin sinew
Main reason for that being getting a ramp inside of conq banner for the unity lego effect and immediately having target at 8 stacks
nimble jasper
if he instant trinkets disarm in opener idk why you dont just stun him
and blow him up
ember totem
@near delta i mean yes but if its red its dead
I usually just kill em 1-2 times (if they respawn and tries again) then i just move on
kind sail
Does signet procs from 3 sec of reck tier set proc?
tough compass
Does signet procs from 3 sec of reck tier set proc?
nope
wet scarab
That would be busted af
opaque whale
do u guys like deathmaker or signet more for 2s
smoky turtle
I found out when you mindcontrol you could type /emote and write out sentences a...
Thats the most hilarious thing I've heard all week 🤣
elfin surge
I found out when you mindcontrol you could type /emote and write out sentences a...
can also inspect them and laugh at their win rate
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
I found out when you mindcontrol you could type /emote and write out sentences a...
That's not very social contract of you.
sharp meteor
do u guys like deathmaker or signet more for 2s
Signet for bigger goes, deathmaker for dps, sephuz for anti-cc.
full quiver
this was back in vanilla wow
nimble jasper
@smoky turtle also idk why you’re considering playing dps sham in 2s
full quiver
had raid geared shadow priest
full quiver
people would bring their mains and get farmed lmao
undead spriest was so busted and no one knew how to pvp back then
miss those days
nimble jasper
in vanilla people werent overly sensitive
now you get reported if you dont respect their 80 genders they identify as
full quiver
yeah we had a rogue on our server that would spam N word outside of org
sharp meteor
Yeah, they were
nimble jasper
or some shit
full quiver
lol
smoky turtle
<@180704036276666378> also idk why you’re considering playing dps sham in 2s
Idk dude class just looks kinda fun
full quiver
so dumb
smoky turtle
And I dont care for 3s. Hate relying on one person to be decent, let alone 2.
sharp meteor
hm
smoky turtle
Low mmr lfg healers are rough.
smoky turtle
Ya I have two but they don't play often :/
nimble jasper
my healer says low mmr dps are really bad
dont do any damage
dhs running behind pillars
smoky turtle
My healers just die in 10 seconds.
With me peeling.
Then a 1900 healer will join and be like "let's climb a bit" and in an hour I'm up 200 rating.
Low mmr healers just panic hard as hell.
opaque whale
Signet for bigger goes, deathmaker for dps, sephuz for anti-cc.
when do u usually use what tho
like is it worth it to craft deathmaker
iveo nly used signet
sharp meteor
when do u usually use what tho
Idk whatever i feel like using
smoky turtle
good healers never use lfg
I dont blame them.
sharp meteor
Yeah decent healers and especially healers know people
Everybody without a regular healer is bad and/or miserable
smoky turtle
Played with some random streamer the other day with 0 viewers on his rsham with my dh and we won 10, 2s in a row before he had to go.
nimble jasper
low mmr everyone panics hard as hell
opaque whale
Everybody without a regular healer is bad and/or miserable
me
opaque whale
highest was 1970. need to find someone decent to learn with and push
lfg healers r hell
undone pumice
Everybody without a regular healer is bad and/or miserable
exposed me
smoky turtle
I am miserable. 70% of the healers I que with are actually clueless, 20% are decent and the other 10% are gods.
nimble jasper
and/or low ilvl lego
opaque whale
when do u bladestorm if ur not playing signet, just to root break?
nimble jasper
I am miserable. 70% of the healers I que with are actually clueless, 20% are dec...
personally any healer I’ve seen that hasnt been at least 2.2
ints hard as hell
smoky turtle
personally any healer I’ve seen that hasnt been at least 2.2
I wouldnt know, this is my first season but man I'll tell ya what I can tell the difference between an 1800 and a 1600
Becomes blatantly obvious pretty quickly.
smoky turtle
Niceeee
smoky turtle
I'm waiting for this mute to lift so I can finally climb again
opaque whale
didnt leave cuz i felt bad
nimble jasper
that was pre SL tho
nimble jasper
I accidentally queued with a girl last night and we used voice
how tf you catch a mute
smoky turtle
didnt leave cuz i felt bad
Girls can be dogshit too, just make sure you tell them like you tell the guys lol
nimble jasper
lmao
smoky turtle
how tf you catch a mute
I got muted for calling someone a mouthbreather in zone chat for defending rogues as if they're not broken.
nimble jasper
i mean thats pretty 5head
smoky turtle
Rogue eats in general any class that isn't a rogue or feral.
Thats how I feel at least.
opaque whale
love it when gms are useless
never got my vicious saddle, tickets are just automated shit
smoky turtle
Idk as soon as a rogue gets his stealth back and my trink is gone from a previous go I may as well afk.
Rogue is the literal only class I fear.
smoky turtle
As a dh I could make them.fuck up with sight but as a warrior I feel pretty helpless.
smoky turtle
Rogue wasn't nearly as big of an issue for me when I was a dh.
smoky turtle
Oh trust me I found out
nimble jasper
assassination is trade for sepsis goes
smoky turtle
Does any class kill outlaw?
nimble jasper
survival
sharp meteor
sub
nimble jasper
^
sub hpriest fucks but it requires a team that knows how to play
which you wont find sub 2k
smoky turtle
My biggest issue with war right now is defensive.
nimble jasper
idk below 2k rogues are free wins imo
smoky turtle
I feel kinda lacking.
opaque whale
i get wrecked by every assa hpriest i face
cant lie
havent won one of those in a while
opaque whale
im talking war
smoky turtle
As a Dh I was beating rogues id say 7/10 times but as a warrior is scuffed for me.
opaque whale
yeah
nimble jasper
assa hpriest you’re supposed to trade
for their sepsis
ideally cc
I’ve only lost to assa hpriest if the priest actually has a brain
to fear off target
smoky turtle
Is ele sham a 3s class?
nimble jasper
on sepsis go
smoky turtle
I'm super interested in sham just to play around but don't want to invest the time I dont have if it doesn't meet my wants.
nimble jasper
kinda is
smoky turtle
I wanna play 2s tho :(
nimble jasper
you can play ele with another hybrid but
if you’re losing to sub 2k rogues
you need to learn the game more
before queueing double hybrid dps
nimble jasper
i see assa sepsis burst the same as i saw last season ww burst
smoky turtle
50% win rate.
nimble jasper
people dont just cc the bursting person
and wanna trade excessive defensives for it
smoky turtle
I think I need need learn more about rogues is all. I'm slowly learning about all the classes and what they have.
nimble jasper
you disarm sepsis
or your healer ccs him on the vendetta kidney
unless they cross both
then one person needs to trinket
smoky turtle
Sepsis is sub?
nimble jasper
no
nimble jasper
sub only has damage
wen you’re off stun dr
then outlaw just have
constant high dam
with excessive cc tools
and defensives
smoky turtle
Disarm voids sepsis?
smoky turtle
Ahh gotcha
smoky turtle
Ya I always run disarm against rogues/warriors anyway
nimble jasper
sepsis is dispellable anyway
unless you q with an rsham then you just lose by default
pretty sure i killed an rsham first month of the season without a stun
cuz he trinket link ascended the first one
full quiver
rsham felt ok into it for me couple days ago
they seem a lot stronger with the buffs
he was also playing kyrian so he had phial to remove a go as well
willow nymph
where we putting tier
full quiver
Lol
lucid walrus
more on arms
steel rune
Mud you say your excited to get rank 1 as fury but wouldn’t it be a bigger flex to get it as arms after the nerf? Rather than a 2 button damage bot
wheat jay
You disrupt enemies and stop their damage
undone pumice
lucid walrus
You disrupt enemies and stop their damage
i'd argue cucking goes is outplay to an extent
wheat jay
It kinda is
lucid walrus
when i say there's more on arms i just mean it has tools like war banner. duel is basically a dead talent now though LOL
wheat jay
Just the context is that you stop enemies after they do something instead of allowing your team to do their goes
steel rune
Playing fury is the equivalent of a sub rogue swapping to current outlaw because sub is to hard
full quiver
fury has highest skill ceiling in the game
it has by far the most complicated rotation
you're just too small brained to see it smh
sharp meteor
It's tricky to not die into good teams on Fury.
nimble jasper
Playing fury is the equivalent of a sub rogue swapping to current outlaw because...
Ok let’s not be delusional pretending arms is some big brain spec
because it isnt
also outlaw is just better than sub you’re inting still playing sub
sub players also have this complex where they pretend sub is still a 200iq spec
near delta
sub players also have this complex where they pretend sub is still a 200iq spec
Setting a focus target takes massive brain power
nimble jasper
you dont even need a focus set
near delta
True lol
near delta
Ye
steel rune
Ok let’s not be delusional pretending arms is some big brain spec
Arms can be big brain outside of ret war
undone pumice
no
nimble jasper
no
undone pumice
arms guide
nimble jasper
fucking lol
near delta
Or sapping the blind in a small vanish window
undone pumice
mortal strike untik u can 3xecute
nimble jasper
if you play arms
undone pumice
ignore pain spam
undone pumice
spell rwflect sometimes
nimble jasper
and beyond help
full quiver
arms has banner
nimble jasper
if you play like
full quiver
that's the outplay on fury
nimble jasper
WPS
full quiver
lol
steel rune
Thunder wmp
undone pumice
when was warr ever hard lmai
steel rune
Not everyone like melee cleaves
undone pumice
yeah but arms doesnt function in this exp without 2 healers and ur second healer is always melee
steel rune
your job is the same
Pre duel combust war banner pre disarm
nimble jasper
yeah ok guess im gonna pat every rmp player on the back
for pre cc’in
their kill targets too
s1 venthyr arms even more idiotproof than fury atm
orc sephuz
undone pumice
gonna pat every dudu on the back for pre hotting
nimble jasper
the fact you bring up outlaw is even funnier
sub is more braindead than outlaw
you have to wait for drs
thats basically sub
in a nutshell
steel rune
yeah ok guess im gonna pat every rmp player on the back
I can tell you were a bad arms war if you think fury damage bot is on the same level as arms utility you can 1v3 teams as arms
undone pumice
outlaw so hard man u have to not die through 20s evasion, 40s vanish or 5s disarm cds man!!!
nimble jasper
ok should i pat rmp players on the back too
for stopping teams on their own
fk no
full quiver
mich is an undercover rmp player
nimble jasper
sub is legit an idiotproof spec
wheat jay
Its not easy to /pull 3 and db+Polly, blind, chastise, kidney
nimble jasper
perma dance
nimble jasper
double step
full quiver
lol
wheat jay
Oh wait, its not 
steel rune
for stopping teams on their own
Fury is idiot proof to
wheat jay
Most of the classes are idiot proof
undone pumice
every single comp and spec is basically idiot proof
yet baked ass druids manage to make me question this
nimble jasper
yeah
nimble jasper
people acting like arms is a harder spec
wheat jay
Stfu scoob i saw your gameplay
undone pumice
difficukty cones froj outplaying other classes when ur class is disadvantaged vs it
wheat jay
You have no say in the matter
full quiver
my fury gameplay is impeccable
full quiver
my arms gameplay was good
full quiver
i was top dam in almost every kitty session
how tf do you beat a frost dk when you're necro warrior in tsg
lol
wheat jay
By doing dmg
nimble jasper
who think triple cheapshotting someone
is hard
while your priest and mage cross the other two
doing a 321
undone pumice
steel rune
thar IP doesnt even cost you real damage
I qd the other night some 2s every fury war over 2.2 didn’t even recognize duel and spent their entire cds doing 50% less damage to my undergeared shaman
wheat jay
Through sac and 20% wall
undone pumice
rmp when they cant cross cc every 10 sevonds
rmp standing for retarded monkey players
full quiver
I qd the other night some 2s every fury war over 2.2 didn’t even recognize duel ...
what's your arms war name
because i queued my hunter for first time in 2 weeks and we were 2.2 mmr
and i got fucking demolished lmao
nimble jasper
I qd the other night some 2s every fury war over 2.2 didn’t even recognize duel ...
yeah welcome to fotm specs
wheat jay
It is what it is
full quiver
i just pet sac at 20% hp 
sharp meteor
I qd the other night some 2s every fury war over 2.2 didn’t even recognize duel ...
Ah yes the power of fotm specs
undone pumice
wtf
wheat jay
Ye i queue with Kargish
undone pumice
wheat jay
Like last season
full quiver
tbf who hasn't trinketed a DB
nimble jasper
and die in bomb opener
full quiver
lol
undone pumice
me when i trinket enemy warrs intimidating shout so i can save my zerkers for sap
wheat jay
XD
steel rune
trinkets a db while healer across the map
That’s one warrior not every arms war
nimble jasper
all im gonna say is
if you want a sign of how bad game is
ozz being top of ladder
nimble jasper
palumor making top 8
wheat jay
Lmao
wheat jay
palumor making top 8
Really?
nimble jasper
yes
wheat jay
Fucking hell
wheat jay
Is outlaw even more of a cr boost than s1 arms?
nimble jasper
idk he did it when it was a sub meta
GG is the worst team rn
2-17
or some shit
nimble jasper
That’s one warrior not every arms war
thats fotm players in general
arms isnt more bigbrain
awc rn is you q double outlaw
or outlaw rmp
or lose
nimble jasper
outlaw has less of the idiotproofing sub has gotten over the years
but its too tanky
nimble jasper
@wheat jay over 100k hp pre bm
fickle forge
<:weird:718676218500874320>
You wot
fickle forge
Not only did he make top 8 they beat Golden Guardians lol
GG were the only ones not doing RMP/Kanye Cleave right?
RPS
near delta
Yeah Kawhi just looks a million times better with the same comp
near delta
It's insane they've gotten wrecked by ever ww game the entire expansion and haven't found a counter comp
Even when no one even plays ww in the meta
nimble jasper
It's insane they've gotten wrecked by ever ww game the entire expansion and have...
rmp
but gg cant multiclass
near delta
rmp
Well yeah but they don't ever play it
They're like the exact opposite of Kawhi
Who are just insanely versatile
nimble jasper
cuz kawhi practices
gg just gets drunk
every day
prev alting sp and drake alting rogue
fickle forge
Which makes them the coolest tbh
nimble jasper
if by compete you mean
near delta
Yeah drake went from a ww main alting to rogue main super fast
nimble jasper
yeah i mean
fickle forge
if by compete you mean
They're in top 8
nimble jasper
in the small tourney scene its not
when you lose to palumor rmp
3-0
kalvishs team not wanting to mirror cloud 9 rmp was funny
picking double outlaw in the blind
fickle forge
I'd still call top 8 competitive if you consider how many teams sign up to try and get into the finals
nimble jasper
either way barely matters
fickle forge
No source, but I believe I overheard Whaazz say it's 60-80 teams per cup
nimble jasper
its gonna be kungarna vs kawhi global finals
lean burrow
are there addons to tell me if I got arms duel on me, monk's karma, etc?
fickle forge
If they're consistent and the other teams aren't, they'll pull ahead
near delta
They've won 1 series
lean burrow
stuff that would require me to know who exactly got affected
fickle forge
Ye, so every other team is just equally getting rekt
near delta
Who lost to Kawhi lol
wheat jay
Well there's Frost+ww in na
nimble jasper
go from considered best rmp na to losing to random alt rmp
kungarna wins eu cup
100%
fickle forge
Always do
fickle forge
Whaazz' team is just inhuman
fickle forge
Whaazz and Raiku being 93% win rate at 3k on ladder is 😎 👍
near delta
Eu is the same
People just talking shit to be talking shit
Delirium just loses every rmp game cause they only have ret/warr
fickle forge
Ye, they're all good players I mean
fickle forge
Everything's relative
wheat jay
Nerf rogues and it would shift hard haha
nimble jasper
to abrua and aiden
if nick didnt get banned
and jah didnt get caught using gamerwords
near delta
Nerf rogues and it would shift hard haha
Yup delirium played against kungarna perfectly and got fucked one matcy
nimble jasper
prob really good rmp
near delta
Tbf, fuck Jah but yeah haha
nimble jasper
hes a good mage
wheat jay
Rogues have been too strong for how long now?
wheat jay
Its retarded they can oneshot people in kidney
fickle forge
Yup delirium played against kungarna perfectly and got fucked one matcy
So heartbreaking to watch jungle players play perfect and lose to mana... i know jungle is not meta but this is just sad to watch (i am bm hunter main)
wheat jay
And have two ways to FULLY isolate the kill target
near delta
So heartbreaking to watch jungle players play perfect and lose to mana... i know...
🍝
Kungarna legit might not lose a game until the finals
near delta
The cross region tourney will by hype af
nimble jasper
now that they added mehh
to their tourney roster
had multiple people say
mehh is just not human
at priest
near delta
Yuppp
Really looking forward to Liquid v Kawhi on Saturday
How far can the double outlaw meme go
wheat jay
I think at this point kungarna can win every single game
Against anyone
And will just 3:0 everyone
near delta
And will just 3:0 everyone
I think the enhance/ele/outlaw actually has potential
Just thunderstorm whaazz off the map every game
near delta
And then he grapples back
That's why the outlaw kidneys him first
Just get trinket for the go
wheat jay
Cuz theyre not
willow nymph
I think being creative is respective
wheat jay
Difficulty comes from knowing when to use your shit and how to position yourself
willow nymph
and certain classes offer more possibilities to be creative
like shadow duel to save pod idk
but end of the day
It's the end of the day
wheat jay
Lol
willow nymph
fury toolkit just very barebones compared to when I was playing sub
I mean warr better than do for sure
DK*
wheat jay
Fury has always been the most zug zug spec
willow nymph
arms for more in
Arms is good peak Addy
Fury is fun end of day when I'm coming down
I wanna play some arms tbh
But I have to gear as fury until I get good
how do we stop goes as arms?
We don't need to stun to kill right?
wheat jay
No
willow nymph
I mean stop as warrior
What does it mean to stop goes and be disruptive
Disarming?
why does rogue have everything and then same
Why do people think RMP setup is hard 🤣
Setup is the nature of PvP
I'm ranting somebody ban me
wheat jay
Disarm, aoe fear, intervene, war banner, good reflect on CC
Stun at good moment
Intervene is one of the best peels in the game
And can stop a lot of shit
willow nymph
Word intervene meta
true I should save spell reflect for cc not a chaos bolt
Okay I like it I like it
I'm just tryna ignore pain to 2400
lucid walrus
how do we stop goes as arms?
fear, disarm, bolt, vene, war banner
wheat jay
true I should save spell reflect for cc not a chaos bolt
That is also good
All depends on the situation
willow nymph
yeah fury doesn't have that utility
Kinda ruins it for me
All this zug
Not enough nug you know ?
warriors are the flag carriers body guard idc what anyone says
Warr always has a spot
lucid walrus
fury has most of it except war banner and safer vene
lucid walrus
wdym
willow nymph
bro that's hella inappropriate e
lucid walrus
so true
willow nymph
save for banner safer venue?
I just didn't understand tbh
how bad does it feel to cancel aura blade storm proc from leggo?
lucid walrus
there
willow nymph
isn't there a recklessness CDR?
lucid walrus
you could play AM but you're trading juiced reck procs for it
lucid walrus
reckless defense also pretty doodoo
willow nymph
so signet only option both specs
lucid walrus
arms doesn't really wanna run signet as much as enduring. deathmaker's also an option for fury
elder wigeon
Enduring is above and beyond signet
full quiver
God imagine if that was raging blow instead lol
Play that with AM permanently reckless
lucid walrus
it'd be so crazy
shorter cd on wall is welcome too even if it's an inherently weak cd
elder wigeon
enraged regen should just heal while active
imagine if wizard defensives just didn't work while silenced lmfao
wheat jay
enraged regen should just heal while active
Didnt it do it at some point?
In wod or mop
Like 30% heal?
Over few seconds
elder wigeon
idk
can't remember but that's how it should be
parry shouldn't be shut down with a disarm, mobility creep and hero classes have removed the fairness of that ability
elder wigeon
dh blur is pretty disgust
elder wigeon
legit 80% dodge chance
lucid walrus
it still is
elder wigeon
it is 80% rn
elder wigeon
idk it's broken
thick reef
yea
elder wigeon
blur is a much better cd than parry
elder wigeon
literally have it for every single go in the game
thick reef
yea
elder wigeon
dodge is a better defensive than parry
thick reef
blur and evasion r edigusting
thick reef
dodge is a better defensive than parry
yea fr man
elder wigeon
back in the day parrying attack caused you to auto back at them
thick reef
yeah
willow nymph
Is blur bug confirmed
Where's the data onn that
I don't wanna hear any anecdotal shit
elder wigeon
hit into blur and you'll find it's not a coin flip
willow nymph
I mean
There is a chance you miss 5 attacks in a row
Not likely but probability has no memory bruv
thick reef
hit into blur and you'll find it's not a coin flip
yea no cap
ya most of time u woll
will
lol
but sometimes yea
wheat jay
Is blur bug confirmed
It is bug confirmed
sharp meteor
I like how it'll literally who 80% dodge in PvP up from 50% for like
almost a year
and it's like "bro are u sure tho"
elder wigeon
What's that hella OG skull plate armor
skull plate? dreadnaught?
willow nymph
sorry you get wiped by DH :/
warped warren
I don't wanna hear any anecdotal shit
so basically, all my attacls get dodged into blur so its 100% confirmed
willow nymph
Yeah
near delta
I'm ranting somebody ban me
Tell people they should lift 
elder wigeon
DH is just hella annoying but I refuse to lose to them
full quiver
Tell people they should lift <:ratge:890357732543168594>
LOL
lucid walrus
lmfao
opaque whale
ye true
elder wigeon
all 3 of my warriors are chillin at 2500 rn
lucid walrus
What's that mean
requires a history lesson
fickle forge
@willow nymph You played sub rogue prior to warr?
echo anvil
What are people running as leggo for fury atm? Sigment or Deathmaker? (im double melle with DH)
elder wigeon
if you're playing with dh you def should run signet
the aoe dmg is downright disgusting
lucid walrus
are there any actual comps where deathmaker is preferable
this came up last night i think
elder wigeon
maybe warrior mage but I still play signet there
i just cancel bladestorms when need be
I need to try deathmaker out more with it
echo anvil
best slot for it?
thick reef
u can play
echo anvil
Im a 3s main with DH and Holy Priest, been running Death and not sure its doing too great
willow nymph
@fickle forge yeah why
elder wigeon
nah i play signet everywhere
thick reef
signet is more burst, deathamaker is more sustained
ya
signet is prob = to death or a bit better
elder wigeon
deathmaker just seems so unimpressive
30% chance for a 15% damage increase lol
enduring for arms is 25% for 35%
lucid walrus
i oughta make sig. got it on the alt and it feels good
lucid walrus
can make r7 leggos myself too but wrist's prob better
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> yeah why
No reason, just thought you should know night fae + WW lego is BiS
Source: Dude trust me
lucid walrus
venthyr nightborne sephuz rele
elder wigeon
sephuz doesn't snack with rele
lucid walrus
could probably crank it to 110%
elder wigeon
nothing stacks with rele
lucid walrus
sephuz doesn't snack with rele <:weird:718676218500874320>
it's a leggo why would it snack
elder wigeon
because like effects don't stack with rele
fickle forge
I once snacked with rele, and I wouldn't do so again
echo anvil
So you get Avatar, even though you cant cast avatar in fury?
elder wigeon
yes
echo anvil
And does the tier set proc it?
lucid walrus
nope
thick reef
no
tier set procs reck and reck only
for 3 sec
can stack with ur current reck tho im p sure
frail badge
how much of a difference for damage does off hand matter for fury? i have 4 set and double legendary mixed with conquest and honor gear and conquest main hand with an honor off hand weapon, should i upgrade the rest of my armor first or my off hand first to conquest gear?
opaque whale
Wep first
frail badge
ok thanks , will it make me do more damage then i take it?
elder wigeon
weapons are the most important for dps by a mile
frail badge
even off hand? i did not know that
elder wigeon
yes
frail badge
ok thank you both
elder wigeon
every attack for fury scales off AP and weapon damage for main and off hand
except bloodthirst
frail badge
is that true for dh also which i play?
elder wigeon
probably
frail badge
ok thanks