pvp

[nimble jasper]

i got this last night tho

[undone pumice]

thats my hands

[nimble jasper]

so we get to look good too

now

[full quiver]

at work comp lol

[nimble jasper]

yeah

membrane keyboard from 2006

tells it all

[full quiver]

but that ortation to try and hit alt

is so ridic

TBF

on my gaming desktop

i use a $19.99 k120 keyboard

from 2010 lol

[nimble jasper]

using non mechanicals

for gaming feels weird now

[full quiver]

lol

just never use one

[nimble jasper]

thats what i said

before i got mine

[wet scarab]

I was using a mechanical keyboard until my wife complained she could hear it from the TV room

[near delta]

Lol apparently the cross faction bug is still there

So they're probably about to disable it again

[full quiver]

what is the bug?

[full quiver]

lol

[wet scarab]

where you spawn on the other side?

[nimble jasper]

chud

[undone pumice]

ring finger alt presser

[full quiver]

lol

[wet scarab]

that's some dexterous shit

[full quiver]

that is so fucking weird

[nimble jasper]

getting married the one trap i will never fall into

[full quiver]

i'm engaged and i game every single day w/o issue

lol

[undone pumice]

ur also bad

[thick reef]

I called it lmao

[wet scarab]

I mean besides the mechanical keyboard ban it's not too bad

[nimble jasper]

cant you just get

red/browns

or is even that too loud

[wet scarab]

was trying to explain the origin of chadlord to her the other day

[full quiver]

i tried mechanical at buddies house and didn't like it

have to press keys down harder than membrane i have imo

[undone pumice]

cant imagine using membrane bro

[wet scarab]

it takes some getting used to but it's pretty solid

[full quiver]

feels way more clunky

and slower lol

[wet scarab]

mechanical that is

[undone pumice]

just use half height mechanical

[thick reef]

Rest hand on crtl, ez

Almost....almost never hit the windows key

[full quiver]

yeah i wrest pinky on ctrl and thumb tucked under hand on alt

[wet scarab]

press windows instead of trinket defensive in sepsis vendetta

rip

[full quiver]

lol

i mean tbf

[undone pumice]

thumb is literally crippled

[thick reef]

When I do it's when I'm panicking and shits already gone wrong

[full quiver]

on fury trinket defensives do nothing vs vendetta sepsis

anyways

lol

[undone pumice]

have to physically pump hand forward to space

[wet scarab]

thumb on space bar for constant jumping

[nimble jasper]

red or brown switches

[undone pumice]

blue

[nimble jasper]

are usually not that loud

[thick reef]

What if you got some foot pedals

[full quiver]

i can't do this shit now

[thick reef]

And bind jump to that

[full quiver]

i die as hunter still from spamming jump

and not being able to FD

cause i'm in the air lol

[wet scarab]

we can safely say the keybinds dude has now found this discussion of zero use

[undone pumice]

kekw

ok and?

[full quiver]

lmao

[undone pumice]

keep talking about them

[full quiver]

SHOW ME UR KEYBINDS I NEED TO KNOW

post keybinds guy says nothing

[undone pumice]

ok so basically

[thick reef]

We're helping

[undone pumice]

i put flash on f

and ghost on d

[wet scarab]

F always for fuck u abilities

[nimble jasper]

idk how anyone has fun in 2s

besides outlaw or hunter

[undone pumice]

they dont

[thick reef]

Pummel on f for fuck your spell caster scum

[wet scarab]

fury is pretty fun rn

[full quiver]

2s on fury

[undone pumice]

shift e for bummel

[full quiver]

no like

[undone pumice]

for eee

[wet scarab]

no cancerlocks

[nimble jasper]

outlaw is funny except all the hunter teams

dodge you

[full quiver]

the change to destro is so nice

that no infernal stun made it so much more playable

can't just force your trinket for free lol

[wet scarab]

they didnt even really nerf destro that much it's just that cancer trinket has made it playable

[nimble jasper]

the damage difference is funny

[wet scarab]

they still do the same damage

[nimble jasper]

they take slightly more now too

[full quiver]

yeah but now you can react to it

[wet scarab]

ah yeah

[full quiver]

and LoS

[wet scarab]

demon armor

[full quiver]

because you're not non dr stunned

lol

[wet scarab]

they are no longer a tank class with god damage

[nimble jasper]

i made a lock panic wall other day on pirate

[undone pumice]

they are just a tanky class with god damage

[full quiver]

kept queueing into this affli + hpala team

where affli was playing NF

that was pretty cancer

[nimble jasper]

cuz 15k bte into 16k dispatch

[full quiver]

won every game but it took forever

thank god i was playing with MW lol

[nimble jasper]

aff pretty stronk

[wet scarab]

you actually dont have to hold kick now and tank every dumb ability they have

[full quiver]

affli with nf teleprot and hpal freedom

[nimble jasper]

bruh i died laughing

kick bolt

[full quiver]

is absolutely cancer in 2s

[nimble jasper]

gouge bolt

run through model on bolt

running through peoples char models lets you know

[wet scarab]

amazing how nerfing one misconceived trinket made the game playable

[nimble jasper]

who keyboard turns

[smoky turtle]

Is bladestorm proc good when you reck?

[wet scarab]

reckstorm ❤️

[raw summit]

Fury bladestorm does a lot of damage

[nimble jasper]

free dam+cc immune

[raw summit]

Neither proc is bad

[undone pumice]

reckstorm <3

[wet scarab]

it's fun with rogues too because they always waste a kidney or cheapshot thinking you used bladestorm already

[smoky turtle]

Cool tha ks guys :)

Thanks *

[nimble jasper]

tbf anyone with a brain sees it coming

[wet scarab]

banner reckstorm then immediately bladestorm and they've both wasted a cc

[full quiver]

lol

[nimble jasper]

then the hpriest flies if he has

[wet scarab]

yeah but I play around duelist so fortunately people still maek these dumb mistakes

[nimble jasper]

more than 1 braincell

[full quiver]

holy fuck man

i queued into dh / hpreist 2 days ago

and they were BOTH PLAYING FLY

LMAO

[wet scarab]

see that's fine because if you play anger management you have reck and bs up again before they have their defensives back

[smoky turtle]

You won tho right

[full quiver]

yeah

[wet scarab]

priest just sits there weeping inside a bladestorm

[nimble jasper]

ran into that once on monk

[full quiver]

i only play AM into DK and other warriors

[nimble jasper]

i rung his fly through

and killed him through his panic darkness

[full quiver]

lmfao

[wet scarab]

I always play AM into rogue priest now

[full quiver]

oooh fair

i play AM into rogue as well

[wet scarab]

def recommend it

[full quiver]

to try and off set reck from evasion / disarm

AM with signet is so good too

[nimble jasper]

thats the ww vs dh matchup in nutshell tho

[full quiver]

@nimble jasper how tf do you ring a fly

[nimble jasper]

if the dh blurs anything that isnt a bonedust go

he dies through every cd

[wet scarab]

yeah they just dont have defensives up quick enough to counter you

[full quiver]

you jsut guess when they're gonna fly?

[nimble jasper]

you drop the ring right as he does it

yeah

[full quiver]

lol

seems risky

[nimble jasper]

you can ring priest fly too

[wet scarab]

lol really?

[full quiver]

that's stupid funny though

that you can do that

[nimble jasper]

its a tiny window

[smoky turtle]

What trinks should I be running as a human war you guys think? Every top warrior I see is an orc I swear. This is for 2s btw

[wet scarab]

man remember when you could ring tranq

RIP 2021-2021

[nimble jasper]

you can still ring tranq

[wet scarab]

I thought they fixed it

[nimble jasper]

nope

best meme however

[wet scarab]

my fav was a MW I was playing with who ringed a surv who turtled to res his pet by a wall

[nimble jasper]

is bladeflurry killing rdruids

who tranq at 1%

[wet scarab]

kept bouncing back and forth

[nimble jasper]

there was a bfa drainer clip

where he rung an rdruid into the wall and couldnt get a non instant cast off

at 20%

[wet scarab]

lmao

[nimble jasper]

while a dh was blasting

[full quiver]

god i miss sweeping striking hunters

[nimble jasper]

it still works with bladeflurry

lmao

[full quiver]

i think it still works on SS

but i haven't noticed it working when i try to WW cleave them

honestly WW cleave feels so fricken clunky in pvp too

[thick reef]

guys i fixed it, windows key is disabled now i can press crtl care free

[near delta]

WW vs blade fury is silly lol

[warped warren]

no, any incoming damage sources dont hit them. only take tamage from shit already on them

not sure about ground effects tho

[wet scarab]

are you guys playing marileth or heirmir these days

[opaque whale]

what to do against rogue mage

2s

[undone pumice]

korayn

[nimble jasper]

kill rogue

[sharp meteor]

weird to log in to this when i haven't queued in weeks

[opaque whale]

died to xaryu and mitch playing double fire

sad

[soft zodiac]

what % vers should be the goal for fury?

[opaque whale]

need some glad warriors to watch vods of

any recs?

[sharp meteor]

no particular amount

u get like 30% just from gear

if u want more then go for it, or go into haste or mastery

[wet scarab]

queued a few arms games

can confirm, still wheelchairy

had a game against a resto druid arms mirror that felt like it took half an hour

[full quiver]

lol

did you kill the rdruid

[wet scarab]

no he was one of those cowards that hung out far away the entire time

and couldn't really stick to him as arms

the funny thing in those 2 arms warrior games also is that they have like full uptime on hamstring

so everything is in slow motion

[full quiver]

lol

[wet scarab]

lmao

[opaque whale]

fury is stronger tho…

arms cant even dual wield 2h

Weak

[wheat jay]

Arms has bigger arms

As the name implies

Arms is Bajheera, fury is Asmongold

[sharp meteor]

Asmons limp atrophied body being dragged to a dragon yet again

[opaque whale]

Fury is like an autistic rampage

Arms calculated blows

Lmao

[warped warren]

this one 😆

[frail badge]

is fury warr good in 2s?

[sharp meteor]

for like the 4th time

yes

[frail badge]

ok thanks dude sorry

[warped warren]

omg... yes

:(

[wet scarab]

Only 4?

[lucid walrus]

hey guys what slot unity

[wheat jay]

Weapon

[wet scarab]

What leggo is bis for vulpera

[lucid walrus]

arbiter

[wheat jay]

Mawrat one

[wet scarab]

Echo of Eonar

[opaque whale]

Race change

[spice hornet]

vculpera is best race into rmp

1% fire resistance

[full quiver]

yeah if you're a masochist

[opaque whale]

Why

[full quiver]

Because queueing into rogues and hunters over and over on fury warrior is annoying af

[lean burrow]

btw, against hunters is stun or double time better in 2s?

i found stun more convenient to make them eat burst

[opaque whale]

rogues is like an instant loss for me

assa

outlaw is a little bit of breathing room

but still usually lose

unless healer is throwing

[lucid walrus]

what's the play as hpriest turbo into jungle?

[wheat jay]

Don't let your healer get in cc

Pump dmg

[opaque whale]

is dk/fury any good

in 3s

[wheat jay]

Yes

[opaque whale]

cool

what healer do i wanna pick up

if it matters

[wheat jay]

Hpriest

[lucid walrus]

tsg's strong

[sharp meteor]

unholy fury with like disc is probs easiest thing rn

aactually just body somebody in the opener through everything each game

no thinking just send infinite dam

also the more i play it the more bloodrage feels like the default

it's just so much gen

[elder wigeon]

i unironically wish all damage and healing in arena was reduced by 30%

[sharp meteor]

LOL yeah we have no health and everybody hits like my dad

like if u don't have the dmg foresight to know it's coming u just die insta

[elder wigeon]

we have shit loads of health problem is double lego and tier set lmao

[sharp meteor]

even if u know it's coming sike male tauren ret gets a wake proc

and disenchants ur

[lucid walrus]

halo-level ttk

[wheat jay]

I mean, it kinda should be the case

Shouldnt it?

[sharp meteor]

nah it's too fast

[wheat jay]

Its too extreme right now tho

[sharp meteor]

need people to be able to react to burst

dying in 1 global is too much

people just stop queuing

[elder wigeon]

i mean the lethality should stay but the dps and hps should go down equally

if that makes sense

[sharp meteor]

i get reck proc my sham has hot hand we turn and kill a ret in 1.6 seconds from full with full line of druid hots

no cc on healer he just ded

two games later he gets wake proc and dusts my sham in 2 globals through full line of hots

shit is too intense

[wheat jay]

Ye i died in 1.3s recently

[elder wigeon]

if you make a mistake, it's going to be just as hard to recover, you just don't die in .4 seconds 50-0 from 3 random crits

[wheat jay]

Seven lava bursts

XD

[sharp meteor]

i have had so many games swing over random procs/crits

oh reck proc oh crushing blow crit twice

+16

[wheat jay]

That's why rng should be mostly removed lmao

[sharp meteor]

i mean crit dmg is too high health pools low

[wheat jay]

And crits should go back to 150%

[sharp meteor]

cds too big

[wheat jay]

175% is too much

[elder wigeon]

I mean every expac prior to legion had 200% crit chance? it was pretty rare to actually just get globalled

[sharp meteor]

it isn't one thing

they adjust too many at once

bfa had high hp, nerfed azerite, and small crits

[elder wigeon]

if crit dmg is going down I want the crit auto passive for arms reworked

[sharp meteor]

now we have unnerfed tier/leggos, small hp cos no azerite/heart and big crits

so people get vaporized

idk its bad for everybody if pacing is this fast and there's the gearing thing

low-mid end of the ladder just deadski

[elder wigeon]

it's all pretty dead

[sharp meteor]

just queued a few 1700ish rat games with buddy on his actual shitcan alt

and it's four speds on our welfare dragons

setting up our xth alts

cos nothin to do for next few months

[elder wigeon]

kek

yeah fair enough

[sharp meteor]

okay so like imagine if pre-bfa glads were made acc wide

but bfa and sl ones weren't

so kind of reason to play alts, mebbe

[elder wigeon]

I mean glad should just return to top .5%

or fix inflation to the point where that's where 2400 ends up being

[sharp meteor]

they could handle it a few ways

shorter seasons and 2400, like imagine if s3 ended with this patch launch

return to 0.5% which isn't likely

[wheat jay]

It is now on eu

2400 in 3s is top 0.16%

[sharp meteor]

bump up to 2700 if inflaiton gonna stay this jacked

[wheat jay]

On na its 0.7%

Na inflated 👀

[sharp meteor]

na 2400 is like top 2k or something

[elder wigeon]

yeah it's inflating pretty quick on NA

[wheat jay]

0.16% of players

On eu

[sharp meteor]

did they dial it up for burgers or something

[elder wigeon]

no we just have more players rn

[sharp meteor]

it's like hey the americans are quitting

quadruple inflation rate

[elder wigeon]

yea idk

[wheat jay]

Y'all are inflated from day one of the season

[sharp meteor]

i know people in week 1 were despairing about deflation and it's like BROTHER WE JUST CAME OUT OF THE MOST INFLATED SEASON IN HISTORY

[wheat jay]

Cuz you didnt get the mmr reset when season started

NA easy mode rn

[sharp meteor]

yeah they fucked soenmting up

i know i saw a few people playing 3k mmr games day one

whifh got fixed quicklyish

[wheat jay]

Mmr was not reset on NA on day one

So people had their last season mmr

[sharp meteor]

ya or most of it

[wheat jay]

If they were at 3.4k, that's how they started the season

[sharp meteor]

at least for a few hours

[wheat jay]

Got fixed next day

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about how i was #1 on ladder with 1700

[wheat jay]

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor https://clips.twitch.tv/BenevolentUglyDiscNotLikeThis-vzuzaKRt4pPG2iJ4

[sharp meteor]

Bonk.

[willow nymph]

Warrior better than Ret ?

def better than dk

I'm between war and pally for my team fight plate class

pally got those dope ass cd animations but fury go bonk

[sharp meteor]

All three viable to 2400 2s, r1 in 3s, hero in rbgs.

[undone pumice]

.

[elder wigeon]

unh dk is pretty good, not super insane, their burst is ridiculous

fury is better than unh dk

[undone pumice]

no man dk worst class

[elder wigeon]

arms is in complete shambles though, unplayable without enh feral or ret

A tier with those comps tho

C tier without

[undone pumice]

arms c tier barely playable

[elder wigeon]

without hybrid yes

[undone pumice]

when buff axe swing spec

[elder wigeon]

next expac

maybe

if they fix d-stance

[undone pumice]

i want stances back

[elder wigeon]

nah I'm good without them

just make d-stance non dogshit and I'm good

[near delta]

@ndogo

[elder wigeon]

berserker stance is practically useless unless you start adding shit like can't "zerker rage" in battle stance

[lucid walrus]

there're a lot of things they could do to unprune our talent tree

[elder wigeon]

doesn't need unpruning really just needs to not be overloaded depending on our durability

glass canon? (like now) needs insane dmg and utility

[undone pumice]

rend baseline

[elder wigeon]

tanky as fuck (like season 1) needs utility pruned

[undone pumice]

a stun baseline

and make furymore like

fury?

[elder wigeon]

fury is pretty fury right now, slaughterhouse is just toxic as fuck

[undone pumice]

idk i want more like

health costs

and health gen

[elder wigeon]

meh

[undone pumice]

deathwish baseline

and make it not cringe

[sage raptor]

Dk hard counters ret

[willow nymph]

Lmao

[sage raptor]

Is ret even good anymore?

[willow nymph]

ret and dk super slow

[elder wigeon]

yes

[willow nymph]

Ret can bang

[elder wigeon]

retwar is one of the best comps in the game

[willow nymph]

But you're not playing the game when wings on cd

which I hate waiting for CDs but it be like that

fury is fun

[opaque whale]

What do i do as dk/war into rmp

[willow nymph]

Arms seems like you just chunk people down consistently?

dk war is big mongo I feel

[elder wigeon]

arms hits hard but people hit you harder

[willow nymph]

like who

But arms isn't cd reliant

I mean this is in reference to when arms reclaims its throne

I'm just preparing to swap if I play warr bc it'll fluctuate

Realistically I hit 270ilvl with tier and double leggo hit like 1600 then swap classes so fuck me righr

What class fucks more in rbg team fight

[lucid walrus]

bro what

[elder wigeon]

everyone? if you don't have a hybrid you're squishier than a dk

[sage raptor]

bro what

[willow nymph]

Right I mean when arms was good

isn't arms super meta when it's meta

[lucid walrus]

been having success throttling mages tbh

[elder wigeon]

not always

[willow nymph]

all plate classes squishy

[elder wigeon]

they are

[willow nymph]

why

[elder wigeon]

low mitigation

mostly what's meta right now doesn't care about armor

[willow nymph]

rude

[elder wigeon]

just a fact of life

[willow nymph]

I'm just looking for a stable and staple PvP class

That's heavily involved in team fight for rbgs

melee obv

Just causing issues

[undone pumice]

tank spec

not warr tho

[willow nymph]

never

Need pump meters

[undone pumice]

arms then?

go target call with sharp

[elder wigeon]

arms is volatile

[undone pumice]

dn are volatile

[willow nymph]

fury doesn't aoe?

[elder wigeon]

fury is hella AOE

[willow nymph]

you just cleave whirlwind

[undone pumice]

yes

fury aoe guide

whirlwind every thirs damaging gcd

then jusr single target

[lucid walrus]

on-demand 50% ms is nice although cleaving slaughterhouse is p brutal too

[willow nymph]

frost is fun in rbgs

[lucid walrus]

dunno what has more merit

[willow nymph]

Except when I run in and MM 1 shots me

[undone pumice]

thats just a feature

idkwarrior is kinda poopy in rbgs atm

[willow nymph]

wat

flag escort

[undone pumice]

if u wanna target u can just go like rogue

press sepsis

they die

from ur dmg alone

[willow nymph]

I play rogue

Be hella afk sometimes

Then wait 1.5 mins to do anything again I hate that shit

[undone pumice]

then dont play rogue

u could also be outlaw

(better arms)

[willow nymph]

I guess DH got big sustain and surv

DH meta

[undone pumice]

dh telwporting from one flag room to another

menwhile monk cant roll

[willow nymph]

I need veng flag carriers

I wanna fc a bit

[undone pumice]

then u can go guardian dudu

[wet scarab]

Ironically they’re giving druids baseline some of the legendary stuff they use for tanking bgs

[undone pumice]

literally a raidboss

[wet scarab]

Not the full effect

It’s literally inting to RBG with any other tank

Very sad

[undone pumice]

veng is ok

but bear is just

[sharp meteor]

30 seconds of cc immunity haha hurr durr imma burrr

[wet scarab]

I’ve seen some dumbass guardians though in pugs who actually die

You have to count on that

[undone pumice]

i remember this guardian druid i found in a random bg at like

4 am

literally 1v10

[wet scarab]

The only way they actually die is they just go afk sure in the knowledge that even then they won’t die

And base gets capped

[lucid walrus]

seen a prot pally swear by the fact they can instagib bears with 4set bc of a feedback loop

they hit bear --> procs brambles --> pally taking dam procs their 4set --> autojudg over and over and over

[undone pumice]

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

I used the tank to destroy the tank.

[frail badge]

do i ever use whirlwind in pvp?

[undone pumice]

as arms no

[frail badge]

as fury i meant sorry

[undone pumice]

as fury if literally everything else is down

so no exe, rampage, rb, bloodthirst

[frail badge]

ok thanks, i guess i should use it to get the cleave/aoe proc when i need to also right?

[undone pumice]

ye

[opaque whale]

do i run didsarm vs feral

[undone pumice]

no

[sharp meteor]

what u gonna disarm

it's a cat

[undone pumice]

declaw it

[opaque whale]

thats why im asking

never played

it doesnt work?

[elder wigeon]

it doesn't work

[opaque whale]

ok

[near delta]

Does disarm technically count as cc if they use that immune 2 cds trinket? Still troll af to use it obvs

[sharp meteor]

I actually don't think I've seen anybody play that in 3s.

[spice hornet]

u can disarm that trinket

it doesnt count as a cc

or somethin

ive only ever seen mm hunters use it in 3s or some noob convoke druid

[sharp meteor]

Yeah I think I saw the panda mm guy using it in 2s but we peeled the go without disarms

every other time it was like feral or moonkin 2s

[spice hornet]

this boomy boosts with it in 2s

spawns a star bomb thing in stealth

picks it up

[sharp meteor]

Oh yeah

[spice hornet]

runs into you out of stealth with convoke

[sharp meteor]

I could see that

[spice hornet]

almost died to it, one starsurge alone hit 45k like wat

[sharp meteor]

What's his name that sounds fun with like a mastery build

[spice hornet]

lemme check

[sharp meteor]

I was going to setup balance and guardian druid to meme around with for the next 6 months

because actually queuing gives me the big sad

[vernal plank]

Been away most of this season, my ret friend is back so looking to play more. Anyone mind giving me some tips? Are we a good 2s comp? 3s comp? Im happy to arms or fury.

[compact heron]

3’s comp yes. 2’s maybe not so much, wog isn’t as super op as it was last season to keep you up on your war. And 2’s is just full of rogues right now which is no fun for warrior

[vernal plank]

Thanks! Looks like fury is slightly more dominant in 3s, same for ret warrior?

[sharp meteor]

have seen retwarr at like 2300ish 2s so i imagine it's fine for 2400

actually some guy was posting in here about he got 2400 retwarr 2s a few days

[near delta]

Really smart ones are brutal

[lucid walrus]

there're some comps i have no clue how they win into

[opaque whale]

what do i do against demo/ priest

[elder wigeon]

run on tyrant

hit demo

[sharp meteor]

I usually just delay balespide stacks, cleave pet especially if their healer is neglecting it then run on tyrant.

It kind of varies depending on which of the builds they're running?

necro being 1-bang, nf being zoo

or some weird mix

but yeah killing pet especially as arms feels nice

[opaque whale]

just got 1950

4th day on war

nice

[elder wigeon]

yeah you can kill pet pretty easy with sweeping strikes

not as easy with whirlwind cleave

[wet scarab]

general arena healer sentiment

[elder wigeon]

healing is not fun in this meta in the slightest

[full quiver]

won every fury 2v2 again

ezpz

[opaque whale]

same

ive won every one

i usually wait for other war to burst first then disarm him

then if he trinkets i stun and use mine

[spice hornet]

ahhh

hah

[sharp meteor]

it's rough out there

[full quiver]

Lol farmed a couple warlocks too

[lucid walrus]

general arena sentiment

[restive maple]

hey ! Is war Arms coming back strong in that 9.2.5 ? or should I still swap Fury !

[elder wigeon]

play fury

arms is only good with ret war and turbo

[sharp meteor]

they're both good but i think in general fury is kind of the uhh

i mean it's just so much raw power

especially in 2s

[restive maple]

2s ?

[elder wigeon]

fury is definitely way better in 2's

fury and arms are equal in their respective best comps but fury has way more comps, arms is niche

[sharp meteor]

fury easier to play especially with something like a dk

and it kills all the non-rogue teams until like mid to mid-high mmr 2s

[elder wigeon]

lol you can beat some of the best rogues if they're playing with a random

[sharp meteor]

unsure as to whether or not it's ever possible to beat outlaw

sub or assa potentially yeah

outlaw feels like you have to like spin a blind, kidney or disarm

[elder wigeon]

it is

i went undefeated into outlaws today

even beat an outlaw mw

[sharp meteor]

that is

something

[spice hornet]

how

[sharp meteor]

did the mw just get 1-banged or something

[lucid walrus]

very confused why you're now unable to view lfg while listed

[elder wigeon]

I just beat up the mw

wasn't a 1 shot

[spice hornet]

i dont really beat rogue mage anymore in 2s like last season

esp as fury

even really bad rogue mages

[lucid walrus]

resonator is idiot proof

[sharp meteor]

hmm hpal/fury seemed fine into rm to me but i only got to like 2400ish

[spice hornet]

i played with a acoooked ass disc priest

but i love him

[sharp meteor]

bless

[undone pumice]

disc incident

[lean burrow]

hey, how many games usually people need to get glad?

to get glad skill*

[nimble jasper]

depends on the player

and partners

[lean burrow]

e.g. average duelist

[nimble jasper]

also depends your background in other content

[lean burrow]

tbh can't even get duelist this season

[spice hornet]

u can proib get it within like 5k games if youre a duelist player

maybe even 3k

and playing a good comp

[nimble jasper]

s1 was the easiest

[spice hornet]

hardest part is finding healers in lfg

[nimble jasper]

you just played venthyr arms

and existed

[spice hornet]

i didnt pvp til end of season s1 it was hard

to get glad

[lean burrow]

wasn't s1 deflated

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah

start of s1 wasnt

[spice hornet]

7min qs

at 2200

[nimble jasper]

if you queued

post 9.0.5

gl

depends on your wow background overall

[spice hornet]

yeah it was p much impossible via lfg

[nimble jasper]

like would say someone raiding top end could prob get glad in way less games

queueing a good meleecleave

[lean burrow]

[nimble jasper]

this season hardest part is prob finding healers

[lean burrow]

taking break in s2 was a bad idea

free glads in s2

[nimble jasper]

s2 was prob more inflated

than corrupted season

[spice hornet]

fo r sure

[nimble jasper]

tho idk what is “average duelist”

[spice hornet]

the highest ratings were way higher than bfa s4 highest

[nimble jasper]

i started off as just a raiding andy that wanted cosmetics

[lucid walrus]

completely arbitrary

[sharp meteor]

idk varies

[nimble jasper]

i got my first 2ks in legion literally just queueing with my raid buddies who wanted cosmetics

and we just bonked people to death

[sharp meteor]

yeah i always just did 2k for the sets then stopped aside from red glow in uhh wod

[lean burrow]

if it takes 5k games to get to glad

with 5 min average rounds

[sharp meteor]

i mean it kind of comes down to

[lean burrow]

400+ hours of playing

[sharp meteor]

lol

just play fury after finding unh dk then a disc or something

30 second games

[nimble jasper]

depends on teammates too

[lean burrow]

200+ hours

[nimble jasper]

my first push i did with a friend who was

a 2.9 spriest

[sharp meteor]

bfa took me like 400 games

now it's like 150-200

and i have nothing to do

[lean burrow]

getting glad in 200 games?

[nimble jasper]

i mean

r1s get glad

[lean burrow]

that's godly

[nimble jasper]

before their toon even qualifies

for r1

ermm

[lean burrow]

r1 probably "ok, today I'm getting glad on 3 alts, then gonna drink some coffee, then another 5 glads"

[nimble jasper]

this season super deflated cuz meta is baboon shit

[sharp meteor]

i haven't queued since like april

[nimble jasper]

know whats disgusting af

[undone pumice]

donate some skill

[nimble jasper]

whaazz’s mainteam w/r

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah

kalvish too

actually unreal

[lean burrow]

give me some of your skill

[undone pumice]

rmp boyos

[nimble jasper]

idk about kalvish’s

[lean burrow]

[nimble jasper]

whaazz had like a 95% wr

at 3.4

or some shit

[sharp meteor]

the thing where it becomes time consuming is like lfg or not having a regular team in general

[nimble jasper]

oh its not as high this season

still wild

[lean burrow]

[nimble jasper]

happens alot with tourney players

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's crazy

[nimble jasper]

you’ll see them talk about they still need 150 wins

to even qualify for title

that season

[undone pumice]

whaaz 3k every season since i started playing wow

[lean burrow]

man lives in wow

[sharp meteor]

Saw a guy with 9100ish games played this season the other day.

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Gamer

[undone pumice]

an actual gamer

he just game

[nimble jasper]

kungarna just takes

entire awc

unless kawhi’s outlaw sp puts up competition

[sharp meteor]

I haven't even looked at AWC because I assumed it'd be 90% rmp and/or outlaw.

Not giving Blizzard a single view.

[nimble jasper]

kawhi playing outlaw sp hpal

every other team on na playing outlaw rmp and cdew playing double outlaw

[undone pumice]

i mean u arent wrong

[nimble jasper]

GG losing every series

its really dull

[undone pumice]

awc was rmp, rmp, rmp, rmp, rmp, mlx, mlx, double outlaw

[nimble jasper]

post resolve change its just

rmp double outlaw

and myway’s jungle

there was one ele outlaw team

[undone pumice]

there was also like 2 rps?

[nimble jasper]

rppal

only kawhi’s is good

GG lost every series so far

even worse they got 3-0ed by cdew’s wwdk

for the third expac in a row

[undone pumice]

[lean burrow]

same people gather up to play with the same results

every year

is what I assume awc is, but never watched

[nimble jasper]

for the most part

kalvish’s team is new

charlotte phoenix broke up cuz nick got banned on tbc

[sharp meteor]

oh right

what'd he get banned for

rmt and/or wintrading?

[undone pumice]

is like tbc to retail gold conversion trading bannable

[nimble jasper]

boosting rmt yeah

[spice hornet]

oh i found that one booster boomy i was telling you about @sharp meteor

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Notpodruida

[fickle forge]

Saw TWD once too

[sharp meteor]

Ahh, thank you.

Ah, yep, 1k mastery. Yum.

[fickle forge]

I remember when Magnusz got 8 days ban for AFK'ing in a TBC AV

Enjoy 1 year ban on the competitive scene

[lucid walrus]

straight evil

[sharp meteor]

That is hilarious.

[hollow kelp]

does anyone know how to get sarena to track the kyrian auto proc stun

[opaque whale]

when do u guys take impending

[sharp meteor]

Idk when it seems like bolt is low value which is rare in turbo

Everything on that row is good now which is kind of funny

pending or double time in tsg, i think

[opaque whale]

im talking 2s

what comps usually

like rogue mage?

[sharp meteor]

depends on what u queuing with

[opaque whale]

priest

[sharp meteor]

like when i played with hpriest i just ran double time warbringer into like 80-90% of stuff

[opaque whale]

even melee

like dk pally?

[sharp meteor]

dk is free, ret is free

if healer didn't think we'd body them in opener he'd not play stun chastise and id just bolt when he chastised>feared healer

but if it's just duelist we'd usually stun kill target into games, i'd have pi/conq/reck and they'd implode through all their buttons

[opaque whale]

gotcha

tryna learn more

just hit 1950 got a little harder here

although now i lost the healer i was playing with for the day

so its obviously harder

[spice hornet]

wahts a holy priest

i only know of the discipline specialization

the one without the free ranged stun

[opaque whale]

same my p is disc

dang i just beat a glad warrior in a mirror comp

old glad, was in rival gear tho

[lean burrow]

how do you decide when you need stun and when don't?

[lucid walrus]

sometimes it’s your comp’s win con

enh doesn’t have a stun other than cap. dk in tsg’s case does of course and they’ll maul somebody with stun/silence on healer/etc

[opaque whale]

i struggle bad against ww

anyone have tips for that

or what to run

[lean burrow]

where can I read about win conditions?

is it like "if you end up in this situation, you insta win" or "do this every time you got your cds"?

youtube probably got guides

[spice hornet]

if dps has 2 stuns and so does the healer its usuall safe to run something else

so like DHs have 2 stun

ferals have mulitple stun

dks have like stun silence and like 2 stuns if they are frosty

for ret warr tho i usually always have stormbolt

[lean burrow]

so we take double time with them?

[spice hornet]

you can yeah

you dont have to

[lean burrow]

but isn't one more stun better?

eg with dh

[spice hornet]

they'll prob try to land a single target stun into an aoe stun for kill

it can be good yeah

you jus dont have to run it

if ur partners are really good with their stuns

[lean burrow]

i also play dh, didn't know i'm supposed to follow up with aoe stun too

[spice hornet]

just depends i guess

[mystic barn]

frost 2 aoe stuns an aoe blind and silence

unholy is more like just a single stun was hard slotting silence in but probs easier now

[lucid walrus]

blind might as well be a stun bc that shit never breaks on dam

[mystic barn]

nice cap

it’s not wlock fear

[lucid walrus]

ya that’s even more disgusting

[spice hornet]

i was playing with a frost dk on my alt warr and he was pumping

and he was like a 2.1k player at best

doing some nasty dmg

[mystic barn]

yea frost dk has tons of aoe built into the kit

Highest chill streak bounce I hit for was 20k

But I play frost once in a blue moon

too easy to shutdown pillar feels mald worthy

[spice hornet]

he was hitting 26k oblits

pretty nutty

not too many frost dks out there

[mystic barn]

is that with glacial counted ?

[spice hornet]

😦

[lucid walrus]

holy fuck

[spice hornet]

Noipe

just necro banner

[mystic barn]

So it’s realistically 30k+

[spice hornet]

yeah he was deleting people randomly

it was really fun

want to find a good frost mainer

[mystic barn]

Last ssn I was playing some frost and necro banner made it feel like a real class

[lucid walrus]

found out a buddy plays crit/mast arms just for big hits. shit seems goofy enough to be fun on necro

[mystic barn]

frost can get some juicy hits rn but we love that half the cast has a disarm

gotta intervene those for the frost

[spice hornet]

trinky disarm

[mystic barn]

Yep

Every time

[spice hornet]

ibf any stun and go mongo

[mystic barn]

I see disarm I send trinket

[spice hornet]

if frost can live til 2nd slappy hands its over

[mystic barn]

same with unholy

it’s the win con

[elder wigeon]

dk finally understands how fuckin annoying disarms are

playing against outlaw mw is suicide fuel

[mystic barn]

What

Ur actually mentally handicapped

FiNaLlY UnDeRsTaNdS

[elder wigeon]

yes

[proven maple]

I mean warrior has been disarm target since tbc to be fair. I agree

[mystic barn]

pillar is so short that the one you can’t trinket you can get realistically 2 oblits out

what

dk was always disarm target for all of slands when paired with arms

[elder wigeon]

two birds with one stone, can't spam death strikes and can't oblit

[mystic barn]

dumb spec that’s pumping 45k execute 1 button spam vs chad 15k oblit

[elder wigeon]

i mean you're slamming 20k+ oblits rn with 15k chill streak bounces with banner

[mystic barn]

I wouldn’t know I don’t play frost

[spice hornet]

26k oblit

[mystic barn]

I did a session early season with 4pc

Like I said it’s realistically 30k+ without cleave during banner

Glacial tags everyone in a line

[elder wigeon]

disarms are exceptionally annoying

[spice hornet]

sounds soo fun

[elder wigeon]

just reroll dh and leap backwards to remove them

[spice hornet]

i dont understand why human relent does nothing tod isarm yet war banner redcues it?

[mystic barn]

I had a game vs retwar sham I was targeting the ret and the war and sham both died to 400k damage before the ret and everyone else in the game had 20k

Every class has a disarm every class has a execute every class has a mortal strike

Very cool blizz

[spice hornet]

rogue shouldnt have gotten disarm

they already have feint, evasion, vanish, step (2 charges if sub omegalul)

[elder wigeon]

i mean some should just disarm for less time

[spice hornet]

yeah like 4 sec

6 is an eternity

with their stuns and blind and evasion

[elder wigeon]

dismantle should be 3-4 seconds, grapple weapon should be 4 seconds, disarm 5 seconds

or grapple weapon being 5 seconds but 15 yard range

[mystic barn]

dude getting disarmed in a cheese summer duel is so dumb

[spice hornet]

nothing you can do

except die

to that

[elder wigeon]

lolololol

[mystic barn]

it’s just flat out unfair

[elder wigeon]

checkmate combo

[mystic barn]

especially if enemy team has resonators you can’t see

[spice hornet]

yeah i died to that multiple times on an alt warrior

fighting this booster team at 2100

kill me through all CDs

had an rdruid healer I think his heals didnt matter

overkills you for like 100k

cant even stop the equinox cause the hpal just bops him

really fucked

[mystic barn]

I just wanna warlock kick a hpriest during ray of hope into a silence

[elder wigeon]

i really love the bop outplay

[mystic barn]

ya

[elder wigeon]

wtb shield slam purge

[mystic barn]

getting disarmed in duel vs a bopped rogue makes sense right

[elder wigeon]

i mean bubble and bop should nerf dmg by 50% at minimum

or straight up pacify

[spice hornet]

duel just shouldnt exist

its not a healthy talent

[mystic barn]

same with execute charge spam but then they baked that into fury

[elder wigeon]

yup condemn charge reborn

allows me to shit on bad hunters though I'll take it all day

[spice hornet]

it was this hpal that was cheesin

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Area 52/Ineffablelol

with his rogue buttbuddy

[lucid walrus]

what’s its range rn, like 25? 30?

[spice hornet]

too far

kekw

[lucid walrus]

on christ

[spice hornet]

at least if they do it far away you can BS it

if you anticipate it

[elder wigeon]

30 lol

[lucid walrus]

good fucking lord

[elder wigeon]

goes through parry of course

[mystic barn]

Why can’t chill streak bounce be 30 yards

[elder wigeon]

lmao

i remember 30 yard stormbolt

[lucid walrus]

buff sub rogue

[elder wigeon]

hoj was also 30 yards

my favorite combo is monks getting holy warded when they fof so you can't stormbolt

or warded when they go for their keefer 1 shot

[mystic barn]

Too bad no priest runs it anymore since they can’t have near 100% uptime on it vs non spammable cc comps

[spice hornet]

i am seeing so many of these kinds of accs this season

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Illidan/Øçöøòÿßøûñçè

makes me miss leoww

[full kiln]

should i buy conq weapons first or go for 4 set?

[spice hornet]

1 conq MH wep then tier

[full kiln]

idk man about this fury i feel like my dmg isnt so great outside cds

[spice hornet]

because you need gerar

it sucks without tier

[elder wigeon]

fury is ass without tier set

[rugged rune]

True

Buff fury :)

[undone pumice]

true

[elder wigeon]

nah nerf fury

buff arms

[undone pumice]

true

[opaque whale]

Lol literally can get kills outside of cds more than any class

[mystic barn]

fury is only gas pedal and it’s obnoxious

[undone pumice]

true

[frail badge]

what slot should i craft signet as?

[dense dagger]

ring

wrist works too

depends what you got tbh

[elfin surge]

ring is big haste

[full kiln]

30% haste is enough?

im 240 ilvl already 32% haste idk

[undone pumice]

haste gud

now tell me how much vers

[full kiln]

31 :/

[undone pumice]

u good

[full kiln]

i dont have second legendary yet tho

[twin sinew]

I’m running TSG and typically the kill target into cleaves, is enduring rage a must have? Slaughterhouse and Disarm feel like lock ins and I’d like to swap out enduring for battle trance for some more durability..

[undone pumice]

u can just run impending

[elder wigeon]

impending heals for like 15k into tsg lmao

[undone pumice]

AS tsg

bro

@elder wigeon

[elder wigeon]

there's other tsgs

[fickle forge]

Who targets warr over DK in cleaves though?

[undone pumice]

no

[elder wigeon]

everyone I've played into playing tsg that's a cleave

around 2500

[undone pumice]

tsg is a lie

[elder wigeon]

funny enough, I just die lmao

[undone pumice]

im the only tsger

[elder wigeon]

don't overlap, just doesn't matter, i fall over anyways

[undone pumice]

cuz dk does more magic dmg than arcane mages

[elder wigeon]

well yeah

same with ret

[undone pumice]

melee mage spec

qcp is mage in disguise

[elder wigeon]

dk is more of a lock than mage

[fickle forge]

Best approach is to just not Q as TSG

[undone pumice]

only rog and warr even do primarily phys anymore right

[fickle forge]

What

Lol

Hello?

[elder wigeon]

outlaw, sure

[fickle forge]

Hunter?

WW?

[undone pumice]

ww is fake

doesnt exist

hunter isnt melee

[fickle forge]

Enh sham?

[elder wigeon]

enh is mostly magic rn