i catch on after the first round and just run IV to cope
#pvp
lucid walrus
wet scarab
Back to playing warrior after months of break what is bis leggo against vulpera
elder wigeon
did you make a ticket
lucid walrus
idk bro these nightborne warriors w their 1% increased arcane dam on spear r throttling me
mystic barn
why would i make a ticket
elder wigeon
why not
mystic barn
i didnt faction swap
elder wigeon
ok
spice hornet
What slot do I apply the unity
lucid walrus
where craft separation
elder wigeon
yup
opaque whale
If anyone queues it
green agate
if im a necro fury with marileth as soulbind, who should i have as my soulbind for arms pvp as necro
elder wigeon
the same
smoky turtle
If you put a havoc dh and a fury warrior against eachother 1v1 with the same gear and skill. Who has the advantage
manic root
thick reef
I just came back, looking at arena stats..is arms in arena dead atm?
fossil mortar
Still just as broken as ever. It's only that Fury is stronger still. Fury also more fun 
fossil mortar
"FunkyKitty is typing..." dude's been typing for 20 min
Stalker 
elder wigeon
no, arms is not as broken as ever
arms is weak defensively and stuck with two comps, turbo and ret warrior
mystic barn
🤨
warped warren
Still just as broken as ever. It's only that Fury is stronger still. Fury also m...
?XD
fossil mortar
Fury is simply better, arms still good 
elder wigeon
lol
warped warren
mystic barn
Facts
wary tinsel
FunkyKitty is right
Play Atlrms of you want, it's still fine. Fury is better, but that's fine! Let Fury have its day.
frank knoll
Is feral hard to pick up?
raw summit
Pressing convoke seems easy
Playing feral dps rotation isnt hard i guess
But the utility used to max potential
warped warren
Cya all when I get 4k rating with my arms KFC 😎 👍
1800 is a long way from 4k 🤓
frank knoll
Man I shoulda geared an outlaw
undone pumice
If you put a havoc dh and a fury warrior against eachother 1v1 with the same gea...
depends on fury cov
warped warren
fickle forge
1800 is a long way from 4k 🤓
I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Survival Hunter. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Serpent Sting on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our pet AND our Steel Trap is in the perfect location to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies move at all. Classes like Mage and Fury Warrior don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Survival is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Kill Shots and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing survival, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Survival Hunter because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.
full kiln
what stats to aim for
warped warren
I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Survival Hunter. All this ta...
too long didnt read
fickle forge
<a:catjamhypers:745409048626856036> too long <a:catjamhypers:745409048626856036>...
@warped warren I'm am deeply sorry for beating you in 2s, I did not intend to hurt your feelings so badly for doubleing your loss count
near delta
what stats to aim for
Arms or fury?
full kiln
i am fury
near delta
Mostly haste
near delta
Biggest thing is farming flux right off the bat tbh
near delta
Can't send over flux unfortunately
So you'll need it to convert conquest pvp pieces to tier
near delta
You totally can yeah
full kiln
because im at 3/7 right now i will finish story for 265 unity
eventually ill get 7/7 by then as my renown increases
ill get 291 legendary and then arena spam for conq
is my plan
frank knoll
You get 300 flux for a daily BG win, 100 after
I like arena gives like 50 or something honestly never paid attention
warped warren
got 324 for first 2s win
distant igloo
I heard Mudz had guide for SMF but can't find anything on it guide wise. Does anyone have a SMF guide relevant to current patch? or a TLDR
distant igloo
okay that makes way more logical sense to me. I was how tf is it better especially if you have gavel.
warped warren
I heard Mudz had guide for SMF but can't find anything on it guide wise. Does an...
how to smf, get 2x 1handers
guide concluded
frail badge
for fury is signet or deathmaker better for a legendary?
undone pumice
💀
near delta
for fury is signet or deathmaker better for a legendary?
I blame Hassan
frail badge
I blame Hassan
what? im asking becuase on check pvp it seems people use both
near delta
Yeah he made the pin but it doesn't say why
Generally signet is really good
It's the best for burst
frail badge
oh ok i did not know that
near delta
Deathmaker is more consistent damage but it's rng so you have to sorta hope the procs come when you wanna kill something
near delta
yo why can't I send cosmic flux to my alts LOL
It's the worst
simple rock
just need that one thing
I thought it was fine until I realized you need flux for tier set
near delta
Since you need like 10k or something to get all your tier plus leggos
simple rock
wack
near delta
Then legit never care about it again
smoky turtle
Which slot is unity best for on fury
near delta
Which slot is unity best for on fury
Sorry not sure if you're memeing
smoky turtle
I'm not, I'm a massive noob. Not joking.
near delta
Ah then check the pin
smoky turtle
Prolly shoulda did that. I'm just scared I'll get old info
near delta
Ah nah it's up to date
smoky turtle
Sweet thanks;)
near delta
Np!
smoky turtle
I'm just going to assume you'd want to make a 291 unity on a bigger slot like neck compared to bracers for the most stats
undone pumice
I blame Hassan
man fuck u
raw summit
man fuck u
Fix it then
frail badge
is hammer or sword better to buy for pvp
near delta
is hammer or sword better to buy for pvp
Hammer mastery is really good
frail badge
Hammer mastery is really good
thanks thats what i picked
near delta
Np dude
undone pumice
ok i fix @near delta
opaque whale
is reckless defense better than signet of tormented kings?
i see people using both are they just both viable
sharp meteor
signet deathmaker and sephuz are all solid
reckless i do not know, the cdr felt kind of weak when i tried it
near delta
ok i fix <@269360402800836613>
near delta
Yall just see LF Org destroy Whaazz with Fury Thunder?
Oh was a bug lmao
spice hornet
HAHh what?
near delta
HAHh what?
Swapxy thunderstormed whazz off on blades edge and whazz fell into the map and died. So they had to replay it lol
opaque whale
Hmm so definitely signet is the best?
Weird, reckless defense sounds so good
But nobody uses it
Seems like itd be almost a 30 second cd or less on reckless
lucid walrus
deathmaker or sig
sharp meteor
Weird, reckless defense sounds so good
then go try it
might be okay, or maybe it's the best
all anybody does is try stuff and sees how it feels
opaque whale
Yeah
I already have it and i have a spare umbra helm
So im gonna try it out first
This is the guide i watched
Made a lot of sense
raw summit
Seems like itd be almost a 30 second cd or less on reckless
it shit
its AM
but 25% of its effect
opaque whale
Aight so signet it is
undone pumice
sigmachad leggo
opaque whale
Yeah i know his war isnt high rated
It just made sense to me
But ill go with signet
Probably will end up making reckless just to test it out anyways
frozen raven
wheat jay
Both warrior specs are good with fury being more opressive against ranged
sharp meteor
kyrian arms in turb or necro with retwarr seem better than fury
eight second parry into cleaves is just so good
wheat jay
Id say arms is better for KFC too
wheat jay
No
warped warren
yes
warped warren
thats a mortal tho 
undone pumice
they both hit hard
sharp meteor
ms also does that neato thing where it can multistrike
hushed plank
@sharp meteor was the DH named Lucifer ?
sharp meteor
not sure might check in a bit
hushed plank
If it was that was me good shit lol
elder wigeon
buff dstance pls
weak, get that number up I wanna see a 39K mortal strike crit
full kiln
how is 1 hand fury?
elder wigeon
not as good as 2h
undone pumice
thunderfury
sharp meteor
uggo plastic sword
undone pumice
wtf
fickle ice
undone pumice
double time warbringer
sharp meteor
I feel like you should only get kited if their druid is cloning/rooting well or their priest is mcing
but yeah double time root break or warbringer is nice
near delta
The really good mms have insane kiting skills but yeah
Double time/warbringer/blood rage is good
wicked bison
worst part of alts is farming honor ot catchup conq gear
elder wigeon
honor gains should def be buffed
frail badge
what weapon enchants should i use for fury? the icy veins and wowhead guides says different things so im not sure which to follow
elder wigeon
celestial and sinful
frail badge
ok thank you
near delta
honor gains should def be buffed
That buff they did was still not enough getting my alt warr full 2.1 gear was brutal
elder wigeon
it should be 100% instead of 40%
near delta
All these rogues in AWC jesus christ lol
near delta
it should be 100% instead of 40%
Yarp
opaque whale
Honor doesnt seem too bad
You can get like 3k from a solo shuffle game if u go 6-0
Which isnt terribly hard cause everyone in there has like 60k hp most the time lol
sharp meteor
I am perma 15k honor on any char i touch
bg win then like a shuffle poof everything capped
just wish they'd let u shoot flux around or something now
elfin surge
near delta
Hahaha
sharp meteor
gods gift to rmp is quite sensitive about the perception that his comp may be a little on the strong side
spice hornet
That guy is cooked
elder wigeon
prob not till next week
lucid walrus
ya i reckon that's a reset thing at best
vital prism
Hey guys, just starting playing war again after 9.0, for pvp which spec is most popular/fun atm? Fury?
elder wigeon
fun is subjective, fury is by far the most popular
vital prism
Ah ok.
full quiver
Honor sucks if you wanna do it all at once
If you just do first win in skirm and shuffle each day it's ok
lean burrow
if druids have retained convoke and dks abom limb, we will probaby get condemn in dragonflight
lucid walrus
sadly
elder wigeon
buff condemn by 20% in pvp
sharp meteor
let condemn die in peace
radiant oasis
elder wigeon
call it cope but there isn't even a PTR yet
sharp meteor
eager violet
So im gearing up a Fury warrior alt in pvp and bought some of those conquest boxes from the Oribos vendor. I ended up getting one 1-hander and one 2-hander (sadge...) from them. I was wondering if single-minded fury is viable in pvp? Or would it just be easier saving conquest for another 2-hander and ditch the 1-hander i got
elder wigeon
So im gearing up a Fury warrior alt in pvp and bought some of those conquest box...
yes SMF is viable but I would always play two 2h though, smf is less dmg
raw summit
So im gearing up a Fury warrior alt in pvp and bought some of those conquest box...
the trick is
arms lootspec
NEVER get a 1h
ever again
eager violet
yeah...i figured that out when i looted the one-hander....🥲
raw summit
everyone has that happen to them at least once
lean burrow
on the bright side you can get duelist appearance on that one-hander later
if you didn't sell it
full kiln
anybody knows name of the addon
that makes you cast spell on press
before you release button
wicked magnet
is the death sentence cooldown untrackable? i cant seem to get the cooldown to display in tellmewhen
inner elbow
anybody knows name of the addon
advancedinterfaceoptions
undone pumice
is the death sentence cooldown untrackable? i cant seem to get the cooldown to d...
dont run the talent
vague crater
as pala turbo vs boomy dh rsham who would be the kill target/strat?
near delta
dont run the talent
It's actually still really good on arms even with the icd
sharp meteor
as pala turbo vs boomy dh rsham who would be the kill target/strat?
have had reasonable luck just going mooner and cycling kicks on clones during goes, or being on dr prior
rsham is another option but that's easier with spear although arms does not feel good into it
undone pumice
It's actually still really good on arms even with the icd
rather run warbringer
near delta
You can run both
sharp meteor
basically mooner empower off the bat with double stun on melee plus meta means they're scary in opener and a minute later with moderate-high power until then after which it kind of falls off a bit especially if they're playing with deeptremor
it's just opener, a minute and then second go scary
which is a long-ass time rn
vague crater
i see but it seems like they run down our healer much quicker then we can do boomy, dh just sit pala and melt him, we facend them just two times and wondered if boomy was the right target, can try sham or improve on boomy then, ty 👍🏻
warped warren
as pala turbo vs boomy dh rsham who would be the kill target/strat?
kill druid
smoky turtle
Does it matter which pieces will be my tier set? (My unity is neck and Kings is ring)
undone pumice
yes
smoky turtle
Cool because I can't help but feel really shitty atm 🙃 ahaha
smoky turtle
Is it best to activate banner and reck at the same time
undone pumice
yes
smoky turtle
also I found out the hard way that it isnt any pieces but head and shoulder
I made boots and belt..found out those dont count towards tier set.
so I fucked myself out of flux and conq.
near delta
For fury
Just do head shoulders, chest then legs or gloves
Yeah that sucks it tells you if you look closely
smoky turtle
yup.
frail badge
i am trying to gear up and earn conquest for that reason, is doing the random bg/epic bg and solo shuffle worth it for the conquest?
smoky turtle
once a day sure
frail badge
ok thank you
mystic zodiac
Is sephuz on orc better than signet for the meta rn?
sharp meteor
sephuz nice into high cc and low uptime aka rm
spice hornet
I prrrty much only play sephuz into rm
And even then it’s a nice 5 minute game for a high chance of loss (ret war)
They can live way too long 
sharp meteor
yep okay it's rm everybody swap to your defensive trinket and second legendary that you crafted specifically to maybe lose less to the best comp in the game
spice hornet
Lol yep
Can’t even offensively trinket into them since they legit cannot die due to immunities and such
lucid walrus
every single spec in that comp has a cheat death available
i don’t recall rogues using theirs often though
lucid walrus
gotcha
sharp meteor
it's too troll to play cheat death as a rogue
I've definitely seen a few play it.
lean burrow
would I need to get sephuz as human?
sharp meteor
thought it didn't stack with relent
lean burrow
yeah, after googling seems like I just take aegis trinket
against rmp
is it correct?
elder wigeon
I've definitely seen a few play it.
they should just die for playing that, not having 30% wall on feint is hella troll
lean burrow
after conducting extensive research I conclude that as human against rmp I'd need relentless + aegis
frail badge
is bm hunter or fury warr more easy/simple to get to 2.1 rating iyo? i have both eqaully so far and cant decide which to stick with
wheat jay
Id say equal
In both 2s and 3s
Fury has more good comps tho
Bm you have one really, jungle
Fury you got turbo, tsg, pretty much anything that deals dmg
sharp meteor
is bm hunter or fury warr more easy/simple to get to 2.1 rating iyo? i have both...
similarly free
elder wigeon
both press 2 buttons and run at people
sharp meteor
bm handles passive/safe play a little easier
fury kills people during cds quicker/easier
fluid surge
Kyrian or necro in 3s?
elder wigeon
95% of the time you wanna be necro
undone pumice
warr is the og 2 button class
elder wigeon
arms is kinda 2 button in vanilla/bc and wod
5.4 arms warrior had similar apm to fury right now
fluid surge
95% of the time you wanna be necro
alright ty! 🙂
elder wigeon
I remember being 16 and my forearm being completely on fire from a 8 minute 2's game at 2400 mmr, arms mw mirror
undone pumice
kekw
relatable
my entire left arm startes cramping after a 12 minute outlaw hpriest vs fury mw
elder wigeon
I can play fury all day no problem now
undone pumice
still won
mystic barn
arms is 1 button class
undone pumice
elder wigeon
@mystic barn
mystic barn
☹️
opaque whale
Fury started to make my hand cramp first few hours lmao
So many buttons to press so quick
elder wigeon
less buttons than arms, you just press them 3-4x faster than arms
opaque whale
its on my mouse
elder wigeon
jesus
opaque whale
Its 3 buttons pretty consistently
sharp meteor
that sounds awful
elder wigeon
yeah I'd agree
sharp meteor
i like mousebutton for shit like spell reflect
spamming side mount buttons sounds like grandpa tier hand pain in a few months
sharp meteor
does it though LMAO
elder wigeon
your thumb is rather crude for high apm stuff
opaque whale
It does
sharp meteor
Fury started to make my hand cramp first few hours lmao
??
opaque whale
I couldnt go back to having them on random keys
Yeah it stopped hurting lol
Just had to get used to
sharp meteor
rip ur hands
sharp meteor
i use mmo mouse shit for stuff like mount smostly
opaque whale
It just makes sense to have all my main attacks on my side mouse
Then all utilities on letters and shit
sharp meteor
i have the first row for a few abilities like sweeping or reflect
elder wigeon
I use shift alt and ctrl modifiers
undone pumice
only real gamers use fps mice in an mmo
elder wigeon
ehh
undone pumice
u can get away with it any class??
elder wigeon
fury has like no binds, arms has a lot more
undone pumice
only dudus have a lot of buttons anymore no?
elder wigeon
ret paladin
mystic barn
I remember using a naga for league then realized I was gimping myself from apm playing shit like akali
elder wigeon
ret pally has a billion macros
mystic barn
Naga for faster stuff is simply not healthy for your thumb
undone pumice
sham too then ig?
undone pumice
heal party
hex arena
idk
elder wigeon
bop 1-3 sac 1-3 hoj 1-3 wog 1-3 freedom 1-3
you also have dispel 1-3
very very important
kind sail
Is piercing howl dispeleable?
sharp meteor
Is piercing howl dispeleable?
physical, so freedom, bop, bubble, etc
kind sail
so, only pallys and druids can get rid of it?
elder wigeon
anything with a snare clear
undone pumice
so shamans too?
elder wigeon
tiger's lust from monk
sharp meteor
shaman can only be slowed so much in wolfie
elder wigeon
shamans can't snare clear but they can have their minimum speed increased to 100% through wolf
kind sail
but what snares? it is a slow right?
kind sail
lol
elder wigeon
ah I haven't seen one since chain got nerfed
undone pumice
i havent played since chain got nerfed
undone pumice
cuz i have no moneys for sub
elder wigeon
warrior has 3 ways to remove roots/snares, avatar, bladestorm and bloodrage (fury only)
elder wigeon
yeah it's good
undone pumice
leaper my beloved
thick reef
how competitive is arms atm
undone pumice
gud
opaque whale
I see mostly arms warriors at the top of the ladder? Is it better
raw summit
where do you see that
opaque whale
I feel like everyone goes on about fury but when i was checking the pvp leaderboards most the wars above 2.2 were arms lol
I know thats not accurate cause they can switch spec
But still
I was trying to see what gear people were using
thick reef
when i looked at the stats site way more fury above 2200
elder wigeon
Me when a holy priest sees that my health is low and they press their cube
sharp meteor
fury suffers from the issue of dying instantly to cleaves and having lackluster utility in general
sharp meteor
i haven't seen an arms warrior in 2s for ages
sharp meteor
idk what meme stats say but arms in retwarr and turb probs better than fury
elder wigeon
3s is fury too, you only see arms more popular at the top because the best warrior comps prefer arms over fury
Which the two best is turbo and ret war and everything else isn’t even close
sharp meteor
i think fury is better for like general play cos nobody knows what it does yet
maybe it is better overall but no parry is just like
terror
elder wigeon
If enhance was gutted and ret were gutted you’d see no arms warriors
mystic barn
people dont know what fury does yet?
sharp meteor
people sitll dying to first conq/reck so nah
mystic barn
neat
sharp meteor
also somehow slaughterhouse is a big mystery
elder wigeon
Fury is extremely op in a few ways it’s dogshit in every regard
mystic barn
stacks get high while during first banner reck i request a BOP
elder wigeon
Slaughterhouse is op as fuck and the banner reck windows is unhealable
mystic barn
they still have the wack ass cahrge
elder wigeon
Damage, pressure and durability is what fury is, everything else arms does better
Unfortunately the meta is so garbo that’s all that matters
fickle forge
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/3v3
3s above 2.4k
undone pumice
kitty cleave still good? @elder wigeon
elder wigeon
I don’t think it’s that good
fickle forge
Feels good to have memelaw int Evasion with AR to prevent disarm 😎 👍
elder wigeon
It’s hardcountered by any comp with a reliable way to deal with bleeds
elder wigeon
Honestly outlaw feral is probably a better comp
near delta
when do we see rise of ratcleave
What is rat cleave?
undone pumice
triple tank spec
near delta
Eww
undone pumice
outlaw, prot pal, bear
fickle forge
Outlaw, guardian and Hpriest
wet scarab
It’s annoying that outlaw will never get nerfed because so few people play it
undone pumice
Outlaw, guardian and Hpriest
yep
near delta
It’s annoying that outlaw will never get nerfed because so few people play it
A lottt more are playing it recently
thick reef
i ran arms/prot pally/disc priest in bofa kinda worked
wet scarab
A lottt more are playing it recently
Will never approach sin or sub numbers though because most rogues are irl assholes who want ez mode rmp
undone pumice
outlaw is ez mode
fickle forge
i ran arms/prot pally/disc priest in bofa kinda worked
Kick this guy
thick reef
😦
undone pumice
@val kyr
wet scarab
Lmao
near delta
outlaw is ez mode
It does have more APM
near delta
But you also cant really die if you play it right
fickle forge
Sub has setup and DR management
Outlaw hits you
wet scarab
Outlaw matches against most classes last longer than 30 seconds which are already outside the attention span and intellectual capacity of most rogue players
It’s like when surv started being a thing
elder wigeon
The problem with outlaw lies within float like a butterfly cdr rtb and reprimand supercharging their cdr
Everything else is 100% fine
wet scarab
I always have a much better time against them as arms but then a miserable time against everyone else so it makes them more frustrating on fury
mystic barn
their hp is in the 100k+
elder wigeon
The hp isn’t really as big of a problem
undone pumice
it kinda fucking is?
elder wigeon
Them having perma feint and 30-40 sec evasion is
undone pumice
coupled with hvaing 100k hp
elder wigeon
That’s what makes them immortal on top of their endless control not the hp
I wouldn’t nerf the hp first
undone pumice
blizz seems to think its the way to go
elder wigeon
Last place I’d start
undone pumice
elder wigeon
Yeah I mean nerfing hp is the same mindset as nerfing d stance
mystic barn
nerf dstance more
undone pumice
Yeah I mean nerfing hp is the same mindset as nerfing d stance
also what else would u have nerfed other than dstance
mystic barn
dbts conduit
elder wigeon
also what else would u have nerfed other than dstance
I would’ve nerfed ignore pain and maybe parry cd a bit, nerfed intervene to 1 attack and clear snares not roots and buffed safeguard conduit by 5%, I also would nerf the duel pvp talent to 25%
Personally I’d rather have 2 min parry with no dam reduc and a 3 min shield wall for 50% than this bs 80 sec parry that’s a two in one
undone pumice
so u want arms to have shieldwall?
imo i want stances back for dflight
doesnt seem a far ask for what theyre doing
with all the unpruning
elder wigeon
They would have to deprune warrior a lot for stances to come back in full form
undone pumice
literally just remove like 3 abilities per stance and add like 3
like dstance cant use ability a, but can use ability a1, etc.
elder wigeon
I don’t like that so much the stances have to be off gcd to be viable and at that point what’s the meaning
Stances in modern wow only really serve the purpose that auras from paladins do
lucid walrus
triple tank spec
you physically can't, thank christ
lucid walrus
Does speed from crafted rings work in arena
they work
elder wigeon
Does speed from crafted rings work in arena
Yes they work you can get 120%
lucid walrus
the homies have been wanting em like hell for alts
they're worth imo. free socket too
opaque whale
It was 25k on my server lol
Figured whatever might be overpriced but i need it
I like having that and signet
As my rings
wet scarab
im playing around with AM against outlaw healer instead of RA and it's working really well
basically AM against most melee teams but outlaw especially
best way to beat their cdr
cobalt solar
have a quick question! so how do i get the gray version of the Eternal Gladiator's Xiphos??
warped warren
duelist appearance
cobalt solar
thanks!!
wet scarab
are you guys using badge at all as fury?
elder wigeon
Yeah all the time
I wish it was haste or mastery instead of crit but it is what it is
sharp meteor
Badge with signet, insignia with deathmaker
warped warren
dispel sepsis 
fluid surge
Can someone tell me the max dmg opener rotation/skill order?
fluid surge
But 4 example bs best using it separate? Like reck/banner better value press rb and rmpage? Insted of bs during it? (New 2 warrior)
elder wigeon
if it's a matchup that it's okay to charge first global I do it, bloodthirst to yolo an enrage proc, press reck, if I proced an enrage off the bt and i proc a bladestorm i let it sit, if I didn't get an enrage proc then I cancel the bladestorm proc insta and rampage and just start spamming crushing blows and rampages
twin sinew
What talent PvP talent loadout do you guys play into RMP? Running TSG
elder wigeon
i usually play bloodrage slaughterhouse and disarm
twin sinew
oo I like the bloodrage idea, haven't tried that
elder wigeon
or if I'm playing doubletime I play warbringer
sharp meteor
yep blood rage to rip off each nova, enduirng loses value cos low uptime, disarm to either pre-disarm a go or to disarm when you vene your teammate to save because sub does a lot of dam
and of course big ms
opaque whale
is cross q fixed?
sage raptor
warped warren
lmao
simple onyx
yo boys, whats the deal with intervene spell reflect, doesnt seem to work anymore (just started playing warrior) i know it use to be a thing
simple onyx
yea but you can still press spell reflect and then intervene
thats what im talking about
green wyvern
what does spell reflect have to do with intervene?
spell reflect is off gcd as is intervene if I remember correctly
simple onyx
you use to be able to intervene someone and if you have spell reflect on you it would reflect a spell cast on them
but that was god knows how long ago
spice hornet
I said intervene doesn’t absorb spells are you retarded ?
warped warren
you use to be able to intervene someone and if you have spell reflect on you it ...
doesnt work like that, never has worked like that
simple onyx
I said intervene doesn’t absorb spells are you retarded ?
lol calm down bro what, i know it doesnt anymore im talking in the past
lucid walrus
you use to be able to intervene someone and if you have spell reflect on you it ...
misshapen mirror works this way currently in that it'll put reflect on your nearest teammate, no intervene necessary
it's a pretty rare pick if ever used rn
near delta
I said intervene doesn’t absorb spells are you retarded ?
Kyrian taking the bruin profile pic a bit far
mystic barn
i think the guy is thinking of overwatch lmao
lucid walrus
he is
kind sail
Does stormbolt hit through rogue's evasion?
warped warren
yes
thick reef
New to fury pvp, switching to fury from being a feral main, fury seems to be the only class that I lose to 1v1 so I need to learn it and master it now. Someone take me under their wing
raw summit
so what you do
is press banner reck
press crushing blow till you can rampage
and then repeat
then they die because thats 20k dps
thick reef
Where does all of the healing come from? I'll be smashing a fury and they just heal but up without any downtime on dmg. Whenever I heal on my fury I heal for like 2k with bloodthirst... 12k if I have enraged regeneration up but that's it
thick reef
The one that makes victory rush usable in mid combat?
thick reef
Ok I thought so. And do we run the talent that increases healing after charge?
raw summit
no
thick reef
Just keep stormbolt
thick reef
Ok, maybe I'll try impending victory. I still get owned but I have no gear
raw summit
yea gear does help :p
thick reef
Ok I guess it's different in arenas then. In a duel you take impending victory though 🤔
raw summit
warriors isnt made for duels
thick reef
Double time and warbringer. I'm not at the computer, warbringer adds the Shockwave to charge right?
thick reef
oh interesting ill have to try that out
so which pvp talents do you run with? do you swap situationally?
disarm slaughterhouse and warbringer? i imagine in 2v2 you run battletrance if not playing with a healer?
thick reef
what race do you play?
raw summit
orc
thick reef
ok me too, any macro that you use for bloodfury? seems underwhelming to waste a global on it by its self, do you macro it with necro legendary?
and another question, if rampage and execute proc at the same time, which do you prioritize?
warped warren
and another question, if rampage and execute proc at the same time, which do you...
rampage
torpid nexus
is it good to use a gavel in pvp?
twin sinew
How important is it to track your enrage buff? Is it something you tend to passively keep up due to it proccing from rampage or should it be micro managed with bloodthirst as well?
warped warren
How important is it to track your enrage buff? Is it something you tend to passi...
only really important for bladestorm 🤷♂️
twin sinew
Got it ty
dense cedar
Just hit duelist still dont know how to manage outlaw rogue any tips ?
smoky turtle
Just hit duelist still dont know how to manage outlaw rogue any tips ?
From what I've heard you just don't.
smoky turtle
Train healer I guess. Thats what I do lol
mortal marlin
should i get 2nd weapon or 4 set?
raw summit
4 set
obsidian creek
just get weakaura like this: https://wago.io/SkBHabbrQ
i love coreys one 
thick reef
Anyone know of the best fury pvp guide video for 9.2/9.2.5? Please link. Any guide video I've found Is not very well done compared to other classes/specs
sand shadow
RB - RB - RB - Rampage - RB - RB - RB
simple rock
@thick reef just use murlok.io for your character setup learn rotation and climb
fury is pretty simple
simple rock
it's a website, shows all talents/conduits/soulbinds/gear for every spec
that you should play
simple rock
nah, go necro
most warrs should be necro
not sure what you're looking at
oh it has a pve section now
thick reef
Never mind I was just looking at the proffered legendaries and it said thay kyrians unity was used more than necro unity. Scrolled down a little and it says necro > kyrian. Thank you
near delta
btw this week surely we are getting crossfaction pvp
allegedly
zinc coral
hey my friend want to ask if he can play 2x 1h weapon as fury aswell?
mortal marlin
whos trying to carry my rsham to 1800
near delta
hey my friend want to ask if he can play 2x 1h weapon as fury aswell?
He can but it's just worse than 2h
lucid walrus
whos trying to carry my rsham to 1800
conquest boxes probably
silk stratus
lucid walrus
3-5%
mortal marlin
conquest boxes probably
lol whut?
fickle forge
whos trying to carry my rsham to 1800
Pics of your dog and my undergeared WW can do it
twilit fjord
smoky turtle
I wonder if swapping to orc from human is worth it
raw summit
it wont make or break games until it does
full quiver
i died in a skirm while farming honor to a rogue on my gnome war
and all i could think about was how if i was orc i would've gotten the rally + IV off before dying
nimble jasper
I wonder if swapping to orc from human is worth it
not gamebreaking
but helps vs bad sub rogues
smoky turtle
Ya I may swap because I'd rather use the medallion anyway
near delta
Lol I've been looking for healers pushing 2s on my outlaw
lean burrow
surely bugfix comes this week
near delta
And there's more ally a lot of times strangely
lean burrow
thick reef
Fury is hilarious. Top dmg and killing blows in solo shuffle, everyone else had atleast full 5/9 pvp gear and I'm in there with 240 ilvl. Can't wait for the gear. Rampage will feel so much more rewarding to press 🤣🤣
full quiver
most important thing to do asap is get 2pc
placid whale
hey guys, im using a new plater profile i like, but in arena i dont see the totem nameplates, does someone know how i can change that?
lean burrow
if fury gets nerfed, what are we going to do?
i'm gonna be sad if arms doesn't get buff after fury's nerf
lunar flame
What are y'all doing to get tier pieces on your alts in pvp? Did Raid Finder with no luck. I was trying to save conquest for the boxes, but getting to 1400 with no gear isn't the cake walk I thought it would be.
lean burrow
just ZM for a week
spice hornet
one time treasures give 200 and killing rares for the first time ever give either 100 or 200 i forget
you can get like 10-14 treasures very easily
lean burrow
lunar flame
Yeah, I have the flux, was just trying to avoid buying pieces at full price. Since I have no conquest items. But thinking I might have to go get to the point of buying boxes.
spice hornet
oh yeah just yolo the boxes
double 291 and a couple of conq stuff should make winning matches not too bad
sharp meteor
fly around and pick up the 2k worth in zm
while your group spends 30 minutes finding a bear
lean burrow
treasures give that much?
there's a bug that doesn't display some caches in ZM even though they are not despawned
so I always fly around finding one treasure in 10 min
hazy breach
does cross faction work for pvp now?
raw summit
Not yet
wet scarab
What builds are you guys using against other fury warriors? I’m struggling against them when we end up in a dumb duel in the middle of the map
Used to be that AM signet worked 70% of the time but they’re the only comp I’m losing more against than winning other than RM
As arms I almost never lost
full quiver
I play stormbolt and disarm
I disarm banner, then bolt if they trinket and start my go
Then bladestorm as they're coming out of stun which eats a lot of their disarms
elder wigeon
fury v fury is so aids
sharp meteor
two meatheads doing 10k dps to each other
near delta
I disarm banner, then bolt if they trinket and start my go
I stormbolt into disarm into fear depending on if they're playing with an rsham or not
Fuck all their damage lol
sharp meteor
disarm, they trinket, bolt and then priest mcs them
near delta
Yup when they trinket the bolt right after poping reck it's like yesssss
wet scarab
Are you playing RA or AM? Signet or DM?
I played one game where the guy was just so on point with each counter
wet scarab
RA is great into any ranged comp
Just that AM gives me more goes faster if we both survive the opener
raw summit
RA is just more damage if you have 2 idiots hitting each other
wet scarab
I use it mostly against teams that won’t kite
AM that is
All the poor rets bubbling reck banner than reck and Bs up again like a minute later
raw summit
No remorse
wet scarab
It’s really nice into rogue priest too
But I went an entire 3 hour session last night playing nothing but priest rogue and fury healer
Didn’t see a single lock or DH
near delta
Now that they nerfed the reck conduit I should test out merciless bonegrinder with AM
Just m+ other cleaves lol
wet scarab
Lol is that a thing?
wet scarab
No I use it in pve I mean in pvp
near delta
Yeah I don't know if anyone has really tried it
Kyrian with signet am plus mb
And just do 1 minute goes with stupid aoe
raw summit
Bonegrinder is ass for pvp
wet scarab
Man there are all these wonky arms builds with fervor of battle almost dropping MS from the rotation and it’s like if you have to contort yourself so much to whirlwind all the time just play fury
near delta
It only does more dam than rb at 4+ targets
Ah yeah that sounds right
Need to face demo lol
wet scarab
Yeah even in MBG windows you want to prioritise rampage
raw summit
Need to face demo lol
Pad the shit out of the pets
Burst 80k on 10 targets as kyrian
wet scarab
Does 80k dps. Dies
wet scarab
I just factor in first pull aggro death always now
But it’s been better since the patch
wet scarab
Anyway don’t want to hijack the PvP disc or someone will come in and reply “sim it” to all gear questions
full quiver
I stormbolt into disarm into fear depending on if they're playing with an rsham ...
nahh you gotta do disarm first
so if they trinket you can bolt and start your go
if you bolt first and they trinket
you start your go, they can still CC you
it's basically guaranteed every fury trinkets your disarm too
if it's during banner lol
near delta
I was just going for getting him to trinket the shortest cc but that's true lol
full quiver
then you get 4s of unabated damage
and you can bladestorm right as it's ending to stay immune to cc and continue pumping
by that time you're usually pretty far ahead
full quiver
usually free win for me
wet scarab
Best part is when one of the warriors full sends it and instead of the other warrior running he full sends it as well and you have two maniacs just doing 10k dps to each other and the healers cry in the corner
It’s the most dumbass fury thing ever
wet scarab
Like clearly the correct way to go about it is run at the healer but fury meatheads are like HOW DARE YOU BANNER ME MOTHERFUCKER I BANNER YOU
full quiver
Nah you hit what you have most uptime on which is other fury lol
I swear using WW to try and cleave feels awful
wet scarab
It is but if you’re bladestorming and switching to the healer they really can’t keep up with the dps
Sometimes you push them so far behind with the opener that it’s just open season
I queued into this disc enh team and their priest was a god, managed to live through a minute and a half where he was basically at 30% health the entire time
I decided to kill the enh because he hexed me and the priest couldn’t do anything about it
lucid walrus
What builds are you guys using against other fury warriors? I’m struggling again...
i’ve unironically tried dragon roar & deathmaker
it’s ass but when it crits it crits
lean burrow
and you can bladestorm right as it's ending to stay immune to cc and continue pu...
what if you've got full rage by the time enemy warrior gets out of stun?
BS with full rage?
lucid walrus
when mirrors had more headgames to them you used to give people swirlies as arms
wish i remembered where the baj disarm juke clip was
full quiver
Usually you rampage right before it ends then you leave like a little gap to try and get the disarm into BS
Rage bar fills instantly with BS lol
indigo barn
The amount of warriors not enraging before BS is fucking massive
Does deenrage work on you when bladestorming?
near delta
Outlaw mirror sounds cancerous tbh
It's like a slapfight lol
lucid walrus
Does deenrage work on you when bladestorming?
soothe probably does
it's no different than a purge iirc
tranquil shuttle
are there any good horde war pvpers that dont play orc?
opaque whale
probably but orc is bis
tranquil shuttle
LMAO
nimble jasper
@sharp meteor has an alt vulpera
nimble jasper
It's like a slapfight lol
outlaw mirror isnt as big a slapfight
as the fury mirror
fury mirror legit a pve race
near delta
Well a slap fight with random cc and shit but I'm at low mmr rn
opaque whale
melting fury comps at low cr rn cause they always disarm me before my baner/reck lol
you'd think if u were playing fury urself you would know better
lucid walrus
bad warriors are addicted to trading disarm whenever it's thrown
near delta
melting fury comps at low cr rn cause they always disarm me before my baner/reck...
When they disarm the reck proc lol
lucid walrus
tilt disarms are so easy to take advantage of
tranquil shuttle
i was asking because i mainly pve but the homies wanna start pvping and didnt know if orc was pretty madatory
opaque whale
FR
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488> has an alt vulpera
Got duelist then shelved. Might queue more eventually.
lucid walrus
i was asking because i mainly pve but the homies wanna start pvping and didnt kn...
you'll sure want the racials
opaque whale
1400-1600 was like one loss with an lfg healer
nimble jasper
comparatively
thick reef
might be tommy
opaque whale
fury war is hilarious
sharp meteor
opaque whale
lol legend
sharp meteor
It's too good.
thick reef
he is 2701 rn
opaque whale
i need 2100
nimble jasper
i imagine all the awc outlaws are going human because
thick reef
look up defnottommy
sharp meteor
On-use ap plus stun reduction.
thick reef
haha
nimble jasper
@near delta speaking of slapfights
i unironically think double outlaw turning on bladeflurry
out pve dams most meleecleaves
besides maybe wwdk
opaque whale
is solo shuffle best way to get honor rn thats what ive been doing lol
seems decent enough
near delta
It really does
near delta
I'm only at 1900 rn but Jesus the shred is nuts
opaque whale
yeah been quick
thats how im getting my honor
literally been spamming these every 200 rating
repeat
nimble jasper
yeah if it was like 15-20 min q i would say not worth
lucid walrus
people will be doing it last min before reset to squeeze out upgrades or whatev
nimble jasper
just b/c of the wait time
nimble jasper
daily rbg win is the best for time spent
but 5min q solo shuffle is prob as good if you win
opaque whale
whats the daily
opaque whale
its pretty easy to win as a fury warrior above 270+ in solo
i meant how much is it usually
like 3k?
opaque whale
ah
tidal gulch
2030 for 6 wins, been running them all day
opaque whale
yes
even like 4-2 is about 1500 or something
really good
only bad if u get unlucky with some 50k hp guy on ur team
nimble jasper
yeah solo shuffle is op assuming you dont sit a 20min q
which was what it was when i did it pre honor buffs
nimble jasper
badge really good for necro
low mmr 3s is prob also good honor but then you'd need to drop mmr after winning too many
cuz then you face real teams
wet scarab
Yeah in uncoordinated solo banner reck/bladestorm kills something
More often than not it’s not even your primary target that does
Dies
opaque whale
basically what solo shuffle is
nimble jasper
low mmr 3s if you got 2 friends was fast too from my experience
wet scarab
Yeah I meant uncoordinated as a descriptor not a condition
nimble jasper
altho fastest was typically imo as
wwdk
or rmp with 2 friends that know how to play those comps
wwdk you just targeted healer then gripped in triple stun mowed anyone random down
and rmp well, with proper team you just murdered someone in the first bust
full quiver
wtf did you queue with lol
lucid walrus
hpriest probs
sharp meteor
wtf did you queue with lol
hpriest and i'd split somebody in half in opener each game
he just sits there with his chastisearena2 vs rdruids
"yep yep nice class idiot"
full quiver
i usually killed rdruid with my hpriest playing boon