i think it's fine to not be able to reflect things already casted
#pvp
elder wigeon
undone pumice
chaos bolt just
should travel faster
its off putting when u see this huge thinf fkying toward u
u use ur defensive move
and it worksnt
sage raptor
Stronk
full quiver
When I first swapped to hunter I FD a chaos bolt
But guy was too far and I died because shield went away right before it hit lmao
mystic barn
just stand beside the destro lock then lmao
thick reef
bruin is so good
at wow
msgs his teamates Bs that make no sense in the middle of a game
sharp meteor
I've told people in random bgs that they should be put in camps and somehow haven't been silenced hm
mystic barn
what kind of camps
sharp meteor
band camps ofc
mystic barn
nerd
near delta
msgs his teamates Bs that make no sense in the middle of a game
What's the back story here? Did you get the honor of playing with the legend?
mystic barn
it was a recording
thick reef
What's the back story here? Did you get the honor of playing with the legend?
sadly not, I just saw a vod of him and he likes to type to his teamates
yea
mystic barn
mystic barn
you just have to scroll up about 3000 wheels worth through his text
it was the mugumbala one
near delta
I wanna try league but also it seems somehow more toxic
thick reef
yee
mystic barn
moogumbooloo
thick reef
MOGGKBUBKA
yea
he struggles against a weird feral/enhanz
and then his druid drops him,
spark dune
How do I beat rogue mage?
nimble jasper
kill rogue
spark dune
š«”
sharp meteor
imagining a world where rogue can die
spice hornet
Ya I like when a rogue kidneys me
Canāt trinket because heāll just evasion or dismantle
After kidney ends he evasions or dismantles
Then kidney back up again
ripe inlet
what are some 3s comps viable with fury?
sharp meteor
Anything.
near delta
imagining a world where rogue can die
All you got to do is get through the feint every 15 seconds, and evasion, and disarm, and kidney on your cds, and blind on your cds, vanish then run away, and sprint then run away. Also if you almost kill their partner subs just duel you and run away. Ez
near delta
<@269360402800836613> still in a 1 hr league game
Fuck that lol
sharp meteor
<@269360402800836613> still in a 1 hr league game
lucid walrus
244m LOL
sharp meteor
why cant arenas be 1 hour long
Just play classic.
lucid walrus
that's 4hrs
sharp meteor
All you got to do is get through the feint every 15 seconds, and evasion, and di...
I get tilted just thinking about how many buttons rmp has.
near delta
I get tilted just thinking about how many buttons rmp has.
I played against this sub/hpriest who just peeled for each other perfectly
Was absolutely infuriating
Couldn't get a kill with them both at < 15% with priest oom forever
spice hornet
Oh yeah a sub holy takes literally way too long to kill if they have a brain
Sub is just too overloaded on control
unborn sonnet
hi all does challenging shout reveal enemies or have any real use in pvp? thx :3
simple rock
it probably would put you in combat like piercing howl does
but it won't put them out of stealth
you can use aoe taunt to peel pets off teammates or try to get hit out of cc if you think it's coming
but usually regular taunt is fine
also use regular taunt to keep rogues in combat
or whoever
nimble jasper
@sharp meteor dude idk with lfg even
was about to give this hpriest a 2s cr inject
and he decides close to his 2.1 to throw 3 in a row
doing troll shit like playing chast stun
near delta
doing troll shit like playing chast stun
Were youon your pirate?
near delta
Yeah thats a throw right there lol
nimble jasper
woulda won legit got a panic bomb trinket everything
if he cast mg there
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
nimble jasper
Yeah thats a throw right there lol
idk mirrors tilt me the hardest
when i watch my priest position in an area that lets their team get a kidney fear for free
nimble jasper
he was sin
trinkets a non vendetta kidney
i literally told him i stop every kidney if you dont play like dogshit
healer decisionmaking matters so much this season lmao
near delta
Yup I hate it
nimble jasper
watching cringey fade after kidney's over
near delta
Oooooof
near delta
Anyone doing carries to 2.4 rn is an actual god lol
near delta
Tbf, they're idiots going for the outlaw
nimble jasper
unless healer decides to range for no reason
during reck banner
š
idk its also one of the things I hate about priest healer becoming meta
the number of apes that dont know how to play rogue priest script
which is kidney kill target fear off target every 30
near delta
I've started going for every healer with a destro and it's ez money lol
nimble jasper
yeah thats a thing too
healers that play with ranged
generally have lower awareness
very rarely you'll run into wizard cleaves who actually have healers that stun on the go
usually just rando dam+heavy micro cc from stuff like mage lock
@near delta i think i did tell you right
last season any time i queued into bm hunters
killed their healer in 2 sweeps on monk
nimble jasper
class is dull idk how anyone mains it
only funny thing is killing dhs who blur first global, in the first min of the game
unborn sonnet
or whoever
thankyou š
nimble jasper
I wasn't anywhere near patient enough on ww
although, we're a year into this shit
and people still dont realize you need to cc the pop not try to trade every def in the game for it
unborn sonnet
does it matter which hands sinful revelation adn celestial guidance are in?
nimble jasper
no
unborn sonnet
tyty
near delta
and people still dont realize you need to cc the pop not try to trade every def ...
Once I got to 2.1 on ww last season everyone and his brother would cc my keefers lol
nimble jasper
i mean
i killed a 2.4 rdruid bm hunter in opener
cuz the druid thought he was big brain trinket melding during the spin
....
as if meld stops aoe
near delta
Lmfao
nimble jasper
any time i queued into a warrior last season on ww i'd xuen first global
and they fear it like a bot
near delta
Dude
I played with this hpal
Near the end of last season
When inflation was sky high who said he was told to bubble whenever he saw xuen
And I was like bruhhhhhhg
mystic barn
cuz im not a complete idiot
is it that or that ur playing outlaw
mystic barn
lol
nimble jasper
I can't do much
when I tell you how to play the matchup
and still choose to feed
steep inlet
Lolnope
smoky turtle
I always hear that fury warrior has amazing self heals but honestly I'm not seeing it. Granted I just hit 60 and don't have my leggo or tier set yet. Could anyone tell me where this is supposed to come from?
wheat jay
your normal rotation
but its not 0-100 healing burst
then your defensive gives you healing
smoky turtle
Will I see a large increase on it later?
mystic barn
yea fury heals itself a considerable amount lol
you get a lot of healing form your wall
and impending victory is a large heal too
wheat jay
Will I see a large increase on it later?
bloodthirst + pvp talents
smoky turtle
What is "wall"? Sorry I'm new
smoky turtle
Ah gotcha thanks :)
I wonder if it will feel better to me once I get tier set and leggo etc
mystic barn
yes that is when fury becomes a cringe class
smoky turtle
Cringe?
mystic barn
ridiculous damage
wheat jay
ridiculous damage, ridiculous uptime, noone can kite you when you're on your cds
smoky turtle
Gotcha so fury takes a bit of time investment
wheat jay
as does every class
smoky turtle
What classes kinda counter fury?
lucid walrus
destro, rogues, (good) hunters
hunterās skill actually doesnāt matter considering how much damage surv does
fury feels horrid into melee comps as well
lucid walrus
thereāre a few others, particularly higher mobility targets like mw and druids
when you actually can connect itāll hurt typically
smoky turtle
I wonder what counters like fire mages and so on. They seem pretty tank
lucid walrus
typically their mother coming in and shadow word: grounding them for playing so late on a school night
lucid walrus
canāt speak to turbo (read: enhance/warrior) but anything with a purge helps in mitigating the several different lives they have
honestly a relief to see fire at this point compared to frost
smoky turtle
Is fire considered worse than frost now?
lucid walrus
naw, its damage is just predictable. frost gets a whole 40 second-long cd to ding you
smoky turtle
Gotcha, I just know people had considered fire better as far as I knew
lucid walrus
frostās another counter come to think of it, unless you just ding them without blocking bc of the lack of caut to save them
smoky turtle
Whats crazy to me is I don't see a lot of fire mage pvp content being released
I see a lot more of other classes
raw summit
You dont need a guide to bust someone 100-0 in a stun if youve been doing it for the last 2 seasons
fickle forge
Is a good thing fury is busted too š š
smoky turtle
For sure. There's just not many recent montages etc not necessarily guides
raw summit
Montages 
dusk crane
what classes is best to play aegis against?
elder wigeon
i play it any time there's a wizard and if there's a melee cleave with a dk and or ret
upper knot
Hi chaps, can you please advice if this was discussed previously:
Do fury warriors dammage increase bonus from mastery nd versality just summarize, or it is being calculated in some different way?
Ilke for example I do have 51% of mastery (necro marilet buff + banner) and 36% versality, so should I expect damage increased by 87% at this scenario?
wet scarab
mastery buffs your damage inside enrage windows
undone pumice
that is always
u always are enraged if u have uptime
unless some weirdo dudu is spamming soothe
raw summit
Soothe is 10 sec cd
undone pumice
ok and?
wet scarab
lol you are never always enraged even in pve where you can just switch targets and bloodthirst
even there it's like 90-95% uptime
it's closer to 70-75% in a pvp scenario where you do have constant uptime
wet scarab
yes but you don't take Fresh Meat in pvp so you need to rampage for guaranteed enrage
bloodthirst has a lower chance to enrage you without the talent
undone pumice
every rb gives u longer enrage
so u just enrage once and then ur basically perma enrage
wet scarab
you're a much better player than me then, typically 70-80% uptime is what I get in pvp
anyway whether you're good at maintaining uptime or not, to fully benefit from mastery you want to make sure you're enraged as much as possible and especially before big cooldowns
wet scarab
I wish they would give Arms bloodrage. I think if they do we become better than fury into almost all comps
undone pumice
i wish arms doesnt die instantly
wet scarab
fury dies pretty quick too if they're trained
near delta
I wish they would give Arms bloodrage. I think if they do we become better than ...
Bloodrage on arms actually sounds kinds busted lol
Guess they'd reduce the rage generation on arms anyway
upper knot
Thanks for reply's above, anyway question was basically about maths
Do fury warriors dammage increase bonus from mastery and versality** just summarize**, or it is being calculated in** some different way**?
Nvm, I dm'd Archi, maybe he did some investigation about it.
near delta
Otherwise you could get a ridiculous number of mortal strikes off during banner
near delta
I'm experimenting with a higher mastery build on my alt
Need to finish farming honor for full duelist gear tho
wet scarab
I think bloodrage would make the spec more balanced, it doesn't do as much dps as fury but would help maintain uptime against extreme kiting
near delta
Yeah I agree not having blood rage feels awful
Or
You could do the pro move and race swap to gnome next week
near delta
Aww lol
wet scarab
being able to shadowmeld maledict once every 40 games wasn't worth it
near delta
Yeah tru
near delta
It sounds like it'd be way harder
Everytime I play my dh feels like stuns are forever
wet scarab
it's... unpleasant
near delta
Relentless is the same effect tho right?
wet scarab
it does yeah
near delta
But for all cc
wet scarab
yeah I might switch, I used to switch to orc once every month last season because alliance was even deader but it felt weird having been a nelf since vanilla
it's really dumb but just didn't enjoy the aesthetic
but hey we're all friends now after defeating the jailer!
near delta
it's really dumb but just didn't enjoy the aesthetic
I like how we killed an elder god then got teleported to the afterlife and were like yo fuck that guy he's alliance/horde
wet scarab
heh
yes all those war mode people camping the starting area in bastion were dedicated to ending the threat against all life on azeroth
near delta
Feels like there are people (mostly alliance) that have hung out in the Maw ganking people trying to do toghast or make their legendary the entire xpac
wet scarab
it was both, generally it yo-yoed, alliance would camp venari's refuge in 9.0 until the horde gathered themselves and destroyed them, got bored and left, and the cycle would begin anew
near delta
The worst I've seen was korthia
Literal raid groups of alliance
Sometimes 30-40 dudes going after me by myself lol
wet scarab
yeah korthia was gnarly, there'd be 40 of them just camping the entrance there, I think ZM tends to be more horde groups for some reason
near delta
Hmm I think it's just so big everyone is pretty spread out
raw summit
Dumb thing was for the chain going into raid group wouldnt give progress
Flying kinda kills wpvp
Hit and run style
wet scarab
it wasn't that they were doing world pvp exactly, they just camped all the rare spawns and would kill you if you got near
raw summit
It's not
wet scarab
horde I find anecdotally is just more likely to help other horde, the amount of times I tried to save an alliance guy from getting ganked only for them to run away like an idiot
raw summit
Cringers
spice hornet
Camping the maw portal to kill maybe like 4 people an hour
wet scarab
in world content im more of a don't attack first kind of guy, which makes it more satisfying to score a kill
was tabbed out the other day in ZM and I see a DH try to kill me while afk, was much lower geared too
killed him in an ancient aftershock
spice hornet
I never attack first cause I play warrior
raw summit
My favorite wpvp thing is dalaran sewers
Find a 50
/wave
If they dont wave back
Oneshot em 
wet scarab
lmao
I was doing this really annoying legion quest for the order hall the other day, the mark of the sentinax, probably one of the worst quests ever designed in the game. I got all the marks I needed but had a portal open, let this horde druid take it because the quest is really annoying. Then he tried to stun convoke me after he finished
most of the people who do that shit tend to be lower geared for some reason, not sure why higher gear world pvp types don't really do the ganking thing as much in the open world
near delta
in world content im more of a don't attack first kind of guy, which makes it mor...
Same
One time I was tabbed out in ZM and got killed by this dk
Came by to my body and saw him and eviscerated him
Then realized wait this guy is kinda low hp. Was a different guy lmao
wet scarab
LOL
near delta
Went on my ally alt and apologized to the guy
wet scarab
aww
near delta
Dude was like oh that makes sense haha
wet scarab
I'm excited to group up with horde actually, I'm on stormrage which is very high pop for alliance but even then whenever I switched to horde I was just blown away by the amount of groups doing content
I'll try doing some mythics some nights on my lock and there are like 3 groups doing 20s
wet scarab
yeah that's what I'm excited about
LFG is pathetic on alliance side
in both pve and pvp
wet scarab
lol it's the same in sub 2k arena, and in all RBGs
out of the healers I play with regularly that I met in LFG, 2 of them were ex-horde
out of 3
sage raptor
How does the game play without hardiness
Good
undone pumice
Ye i dont lfg pvp much
come to the dark side
wet scarab
gotta say I'm feeling decently happy with the lock nerf, that's 15% extra damage taken
bigger than dstance nerf
undone pumice
more like 20
fickle forge
Ye, it's more than 15%
sharp meteor
It varies by spec, I think.
My Aff has 26% armor, as Destro it's 22%
with no armor it'll be 10%
fickle forge
Can we get a confirmation on that?
I'm pretty sure armor is identical and linear for all specs
sharp meteor
They separated them a while back.
fickle forge
Is Demon Armor different values for each spec?
fickle forge
Ah aight
sharp meteor
In BFA Aff sucked and nerfs for Destro to demon armor kept nerfing Aff.
sharp meteor
Mhm.
Hoping that there's Destro tier nerfs in the next few days.
Or just Destro in general, it's a terror in all forms of content.
mystic barn
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fickle forge
Already prepared my mug for the destro tears to come
I can't face tank fury, hunter or WW anymore š¢
mystic barn
What if armor gets unnerfed
nimble jasper
zzzz
near delta
Won't really make too much of a difference for the God tier destros that kite like crazy
nimble jasper
I can't face tank fury, hunter or WW anymore š¢
cant facetank pirate either
14.5k dispatch to the dome
near delta
I've played against maldiva a few times and I just wanted to throw something lol
nimble jasper
prolly lower cuz mastery
nimble jasper
I've played against maldiva a few times and I just wanted to throw something lol
playing vs thugonomics is worse
near delta
Wait I did okay against thug
To get 2.1 on my alt
*play
He actually died pretty easily but his healer was not great
near delta
No one is ready for heroic leap first global
nimble jasper
orc nelf prolly
undone pumice
dwarf
nimble jasper
im surprised all the pirate players going human
near delta
:o
nimble jasper
TR they might just play orc
i suspect the nelfāā->human change is because getting re is not as important for outlaw
nimble jasper
its prob only useful
to make yourself not a target
while other team trying to go
nimble jasper
i think it was biggest for sin cuz only one vanish on longer cd
fickle forge
Same for sub no?
nimble jasper
yeah just sub has access to its stealth buttons with just dance
mystic barn
where craft dn
undone pumice
dreadnaught
spice hornet
I pressed spell reflect into a fire mage and the reflected spell was Pyroblast DoT
warped warren
spice hornet
it is possible it said it in details was only like 1.6k dmg or something
warped warren
doesnt it show both?
sharp meteor
Kevin probably ate it.
undone pumice
it is possible it said it in details was only like 1.6k dmg or something
fucking full mastery mage??
spice hornet
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near delta
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undone pumice
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tawny musk
Playing human 2v2 fury is aids
undone pumice
playing 2v2*
near delta
playing 2v2*
Playing
undone pumice
true
tawny musk
š« š
undone pumice
play the hubter rogue bracket or play the mage lock bracket
fickle forge
I'm under the impression that you simply have no way of defeating outlaw+Hpri in 2s
Either you try to kill some dude twice while dealing with outlaw peels, or you try and go through outlaw rotating evas, vanish, disarm and kidney on negative CD
Just pray he's bored and overlapped all 7 of his CDs at the same time
near delta
Either you try to kill some dude twice while dealing with outlaw peels, or you t...
When you kill the hpriest with your healer nearly oom and youre at 20% hp and then you see the res buff on the priest
fickle forge
Only time I ever kill outlaw is when his dart landed on the trinket field when he decided what CD to trade with my EB proc
spice hornet
You cannot beat that comp as a warrior
They simply have too many ways to stop warrior dmg
elder wigeon
my favorite is mw outlaw
spice hornet
Yeah I fought that the other day and the little bitch mw emoted me, ya ur really good running that 2.4K in 2s 1900 in 3s
elder wigeon
LMAO
arms is soooooo bad into mw outlaw
your best chance is playing hpally war actually
near delta
arms is soooooo bad into mw outlaw
Is arms really only good into fury/rm in 2s?
elder wigeon
idk I don't play 2's enough for form a good opinion in this meta
i just know last season when mw and outlaw were worse, it was miserable for arms, when arms was S tier
you shouldn't be able to beat mw outlaw in 2's AT ALL if else is equal skill wise
undone pumice
i love 10 minute games vs mw outlaw
love playing the "fast" engaging bracket of 2s
that devolces to pve with sefensive buttons sometimes vs that comp
elder wigeon
ignore pain is just instantly bad in 2's lmao
20% dampening off the rip means ignore pain is 10K per at best
elder wigeon
can't ignore my health inevitably going to zero
hybrid breach
loll
undone pumice
can't ignore my health inevitably going to zero
just play so much u become completely numb
sharp meteor
just play so much u become completely numb
play as little as possible to collect welfare dragon then quit until next patch owo
undone pumice
my plan exactly
hybrid breach
winnable
elder wigeon
but they're gonna fuck harder with an extra pvp talent
elder wigeon
playing with shane?
near delta
ran into intimissi in 2s
Is that ubbs egirl?
nimble jasper
who ubba
near delta
Ugly bald baby / shane
near delta
I mean yeah prob
low sparrow
is human good or everyone prob staying orc?
sharp meteor
idk play wat u want
sage raptor
It's meme season. Expect pandas
sharp meteor
panda to quaking palm resolve off isn't as meme as u think
sage raptor
panda to quaking palm resolve off isn't as meme as u think
Fair. Tbh with the amount of locks in 3s right now, I've been seeing a lot more undead.
fickle forge
Is that ubbs egirl?
Intimissi is everyone's e-girl on rotation š š
Shanex is down bad though
sage raptor
Mom said it's my turn with the e-girl
fickle forge
while being a tank
I don't think even tanks are more durable than outlaw
undone pumice
pirate too strong
guess all the oranges didnt just cure them of scurvy but of dying too
fickle forge
Pirates be running around with lock hp and have 50 CDs to trade on 30 sec CD each
Immunities as well ofc
Now we just need the final piece to make them full circle, give them Heartstop Aura
š š
undone pumice
indigo barn
Could go back to legion where kidney was a ranged attack that did dumb damage if it critted
undone pumice
wtf
indigo barn
Between the eyes used to stun in legion
And did 4x damage if it critted due to a artifact power
undone pumice
dragon
indigo barn
Just overbuff lightforged 
lucid walrus
teapot 100% gonna be an evoker warr
if only u could be
spice hornet
is human good or everyone prob staying orc?
i was human and the worst part of it is being disarmed
sharp meteor
u play all the weird shit
rude
indigo barn
How much Phys damage reduction does demon armor give?
lucid walrus
idk but it's apparently enough for locks to cry on the forums
sharp meteor
I've heard it's 18% armor
26% as destro rn, 22% as aff, both down to 10% on tuesday
although alt lock is only like 2k or something so not full gear but
it'll be notable
indigo barn
Intended outlaw buff?
last night
Hi guys! Which slot should I craft my Kyrian Unity for Arms warrior? I have the Enduring Blow belt leggo already.
last night
oh nice TY!
elder wigeon
it'll be notable
considerable
sharp meteor
might be nicer to go lock in ml now
elder wigeon
without a doubt
raw summit
https://tenor.com/view/cartman-south-park-tears-of-unfathomable-sadness-yummy-gi...
That episode was quite something
low sparrow
I know you guys said this season is a meme and it doesnāt matter but in a normal season unless your a rank 1 player does it really matter if you are orc or human?
warm urchin
Does my PvE gear also scale up to lets say 281 in PvP? it doesnt have the equip: Increases item level to x in PvP combat and War Mode.
Tier gear*
undone pumice
no
warm urchin
Shit
low sparrow
human racial also really strong
I just want my mogs to look good š
warped warren
I just want my mogs to look good š
human female dreadnaught š„°
fickle forge
I know you guys said this season is a meme and it doesnāt matter but in a normal...
Play orc or die
low sparrow
š
near delta
Play orc or die
Curious how much that changes with cross faction
I know it won't be much lol
undone pumice
more nelf
fickle forge
Curious how much that changes with cross faction
Probably not
undone pumice
shut up penguin
warped warren
noot noot
sage raptor
I know you guys said this season is a meme and it doesnāt matter but in a normal...
No. People love sucking orc dick and there's not as many stuns as there are the last two seasons.
low sparrow
True if you do kill rogue itās cause they are bad still learning
raw summit
Yep
runic galleon
arms top spec now ?
near delta
naw dont play cdr lego in 2s
Is blunderbuss the move there?
nimble jasper
Is blunderbuss the move there?
yeah big dam+some cdr
greenskins still full dam iirc
@near delta also makes you remember
the only ādownsidesā to outlaw are first world problems that belong to the class
like having to build up a stun
near delta
like having to build up a stun
Brutal
Need to build up your 7 second stun that has a 20 second cd and doesn't require using a talent
spice hornet
sub holy is so tilting to fight
100-0 me in a kidney no cooldowns
cause ER evis are hitting 18k 14k
wet scarab
yeah priest rogue is actually more annoying to me than RM because it takes longer to auto-lose
though I've been having a better time with it as arms
and as human with relentless
fickle forge
You're supposed to beat RM as warr though
undone pumice
today i will beat evasion, vanish, disarm with parry and rally
sharp meteor
You're supposed to beat RM as warr though
Hmm.
fickle forge
Ah so sorry
Warrior bad
Weakest class in the game
Can't win anything, if you win it's cause your skill and biceps are big
fickle forge
Z-tier class
elder wigeon
Cringe
robust vapor
sharp meteor
this healer in lfg wont play 2s with me cause im not arms
what the heck
spice hornet
i was confused myself
sharp meteor
not like u lose anything
ya u lose ur mind in 2s
sharp meteor
idk if it does lmao
undone pumice
ya u lose ur mind in 2s
not by respeccing
spice hornet
undone pumice
but u lose ur mind in 2s very fast
sharp meteor
wow rsham arms 2s that sounds like a grand old time
instead of just bodying every hunter team in the opener as fury/hpriest
undone pumice
2 C tier classes
elder wigeon
lol
undone pumice
arms being unironically c tier is weird
sharp meteor
bad in 2s good in 3s
undone pumice
in 2s yxea
wheat jay
At least still good in 3s
elder wigeon
survival hunter spotted
wheat jay
So?
elder wigeon
your people have tormented 2v2 long enough
elder wigeon
arms warrior so op
wheat jay
S1 the most broken class in the game
wheat jay
S2 the most broken class in the game
spice hornet
rogue
undone pumice
rogue week 1 s1
wheat jay
Youre just back in the realm of mortals
undone pumice
100% better
undone pumice
arms got nerfed from S tier to c tier by changing a 2 to a 1 lmao
wheat jay
That's how it works in arena, sometimes you get, sometimes you get gotten
spice hornet
im playing arms disc at 2400 rn i want to kil lmyself
elder wigeon
i mean warrior just getting mop treatment
wheat jay
Just not two tiers above everyone else
elder wigeon
instead of 1 season 12 it got two
undone pumice
i think u forget rogue?
wheat jay
Ok boomer
elder wigeon
zoomer moment
wheat jay
Boomer moment too tbh
elder wigeon
zoomer and boomer the only thing that exists 
undone pumice
i go boom when i get outplayed by /pull 10
elder wigeon
is there a class that gets more hate when it's viable than warrior?
everybody just bitches about warrior if it's playable
sharp meteor
Warlock? Havoc?
molten jolt
rogues
sharp meteor
Rogues?
undone pumice
literally every class gets perma hate
sharp meteor
Can't even play when Rogue is in every game.
elder wigeon
last time rogue was bad that I know of was season 12
wheat jay
Rogue 100%
Nothing gets more hate
Also remember that when warrior is meta its in every
undone pumice
rogue is inherently frustrating to fight
elder wigeon
gut fury warrior and then test that hypothesis
wheat jay
Cuz its got the highest amount of comps
undone pumice
gut fury warrior and then test that hypothesis
i feels it comin
wheat jay
And the highest number of players play warrior
elder wigeon
i want fury gutted tbh
wheat jay
Its the most popular class
undone pumice
slaughterhouse gets reduce to 5 sec and 3% per stack
wheat jay
Remember dh at the end of 9.1?
Out of fucking nowhere
Everyone has balance and havoc
So ye, when arms is s tier its the only thing that's played
undone pumice
thats like every class
i think warr is popular because people like playing warr tho?
elder wigeon
"warrior" is the most popular in every mmo it's a moot point
undone pumice
i just play warr cuz it was my first class
elder wigeon
everybody wanna have a big weapon and swing it at people
undone pumice
i literally said to myself: "haha im gonna hit people"
near delta
im playing arms disc at 2400 rn i want to kil lmyself
Just play fury bruv
Also do you still play kyrian or are you necro?
And if you're necro when are you changing you discord name to necrobanner?
wheat jay
Waiting for nightfaeaftershock
undone pumice
venthyrcondemn
near delta
is there a class that gets more hate when it's viable than warrior?
Casters
Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game itās pathetic. Warlock and mage havenāt been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry
wheat jay
Rmp was viable
spice hornet
i am ky rian
elder wigeon
Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game itās pathetic. ...
lolololol
wheat jay
I mean, he's not really wrong
nimble jasper
destro still good on reset
undone pumice
nimble jasper
despite the qq
undone pumice
what the fuck are you saying
elder wigeon
yes wizards haven't been viable all expansion and now they have a trinket and we wanna cry because wizards are viable
couldn't be the trinket
undone pumice
near delta
couldn't be the trinket
If it wasn't for the trinket lock would be competent unviable according to bluedrew earlier in the seaosn
elder wigeon
lol
nimble jasper
gotta play outlaw mm thug to root all the destro scum
off the ladder
bluedrew twitter is gold
rmp lives in his head rent free 365
wheat jay
Not rly just trinket
Bur still, mages had rmp
Being s tier
Locks iirc had nothing s1 and s2
nimble jasper
people forget fmp exists
wheat jay
Fmp?
wheat jay
Wtf is even that
nimble jasper
cat rmp
near delta
bluedrew twitter is gold
This fucking guy lmao
undone pumice
fickle forge
None
Every class beats warrior
Weakest class in the game
I know from dueling outside Orgrimmar
elder wigeon
true
spice hornet
Warrior does well into dk
wheat jay
Arena setting, 3s, of course
near delta
What melee doesnt do good into DK? lol
Weakest spec in the game
Ndogo bless his heart knew that
elder wigeon
in 2's you do well vs everything that's not outlaw or a hunter spec
near delta
in 2's you do well vs everything that's not outlaw or a hunter spec
Sub can be pretty hard too
elder wigeon
yeah it can be
elder wigeon
outlaw and hunters just shit on your existence
near delta
Survival doesn't get too hard till wayyy up if your healer is decent
Whereas I'm just dying to BM the entire game lol
sand shadow
i miss Arms.
it took less than 2 months to fucking get to loathe fury, holy crap get that bs away from me
wheat jay
Play arms turbo then
elder wigeon
turbo is more boring than ret war
elder wigeon
warrior isn't fun right now, not to say it isn't good
sand shadow
I think I'm just too tired of pressing 2 buttons as Fury
it's insane how many of my globals are legit 2 buttons
fickle forge
Then just go arms?
slate flame
is there any reliable way to survive Shiv, Sepsis etc. burst from Assa?
fickle forge
Kyrian phial š š
slate flame
as necrolord* xD
wheat jay
Defensives, dispel from healer
elder wigeon
just die, you're not gonna live it without heals
wheat jay
Healing healing healing
fickle forge
Wall and pray you decided to Q up with someone who can dispel it
elder wigeon
can wall and aegis at 100%, you'll die through
slate flame
so you just have to be with Pala/Monk/Druid roger xD thanks š
elder wigeon
surv hunters can trinket feign
fickle forge
Chads play with Hpala
wheat jay
Any healer can dispel sepsis
sand shadow
not true
wheat jay
Isn't sepsis magic effect?
fickle forge
Poison
sand shadow
no, it's a poison
elder wigeon
it's a poison
slate flame
Poison sadly
spice hornet
real chads q arms / disc/ x
wheat jay
@fickle forge see, you were a real chad last season
fickle forge
WoW is saved
mystic barn
Do you think they care about pvp?
Pve nerfs is still pvp nerfs
wheat jay
You're all playing a minigame, it is what it is
mystic barn
yes there is
sand shadow
woven mural
so i've been using deathmaker kyrian in 2s but i see more high ranked people on murlok running signet. is it better than deathmaker?
elder wigeon
weird
wheat jay
Signet is burst, deathmaker is consistent
elder wigeon
I personally think signet is better but that's my opinion
woven mural
makes more sense with kyrian I suppose then?
elder wigeon
not just kyrian
woven mural
ill give it a try, cheers š
elder wigeon
has utility in reck getting you out of roots because signet procs avatar or bladestorm which will break the root
sharp meteor
I've been liking signet with badge.
All your power is in the minutely and conq goes, though, which...ehh.
spice hornet
ppl say there's not a lot of boosters but i swear there are, i just mainly q helping buds get their alts up now since pushing isnt fun and today aloen ive fought 4 different teams where 2 of the boosters have sl s3 achievements only
carrying some nooby guy
2 in a row just now
wheat jay
Maybe theyre helping their buddies like you š
wheat jay
Well
undone pumice
we get it game sucks git gud
wheat jay
Who's to say they couldn't learn to play in one season
undone pumice
me
wheat jay
we get it game sucks git gud
Amen to that
wheat jay
me
Imma say git gud
Best answer to anything skill related
Which is the entirety of pvp
undone pumice
no
it aint
there is nothing skill related to being cc immune for 15 seconds or absorbing 2 ccs
wheat jay
Well, there is skill in knowing how to play against it
sage raptor
Nothing skill related playing arms last two seasons >.>
elder wigeon
i went from 2k to 2.8k in season 1 after not playing since season 15 and in mop I wasn't good, i peaked 2497 when glad was ~2700
wheat jay
Nothing skill related playing arms last two seasons >.>
Shhhh dont say that, fragile ego warriors cant handle it
undone pumice
Nothing skill related playing arms last two seasons >.>
ok and?
sage raptor
This bait will get someone
elder wigeon
200iq baiting out the hunter main's true intention trolling around in the warrior discord
spice hornet
not too many ppl signing up new to WoW these days to arena thousands of games
sage raptor
And if they do, they never get past 1200
undone pumice
not too many people signing up to wow
spice hornet
not too many people signing INTO wow
wheat jay
200iq baiting out the hunter main's true intention trolling around in the warrio...
Ye Man, i should have just pushed glad on warr in s1 and s2, would have been so much easier than KFC and learning new class
spice hornet
elder wigeon
Ye Man, i should have just pushed glad on warr in s1 and s2, would have been so ...
hunter must be really good and fun for you to give all that up for it
wheat jay
Its actually very fun
Having all those tools to fuck over arms warriors
Man feels good
elder wigeon
only in 2's though right? the bracket that doesn't matter? š
wheat jay
Indeed
Was a bit harder in 3s
But Hey I had my own warrior doing oneshots and keeping me alive with 10/10 peels
So all was fine
elder wigeon
there was only a few hunters in 2's last season that I'd lose to
chun and ssds being the main ones
undone pumice
there wa sonly a few times u played 2s
elder wigeon
nah i played 2's a fair bit in season 2
elder wigeon
several hundred games among my warriors
undone pumice
noob
near delta
Shhhh dont say that, fragile ego warriors cant handle it
Tbf, it takes a very high IQ to play warrior
mystic barn
is 62 iq high
sage raptor
If you're a warrior
undone pumice
there arent hard classes anymore
undone pumice
tanks are like
undone pumice
rotationally the hardest classes
undone pumice
nothing is hard but something is hardest
wheat jay
No
undone pumice
more buttoj = hard
undone pumice
no
wheat jay
3 buttons or 4, its still easy to do rotation
Difficulty comes from using other things
undone pumice
wheat jay
Yes
sage raptor
Some have annoying mechanics
wheat jay
Ye but doing dps is still just doing dps
If someone cant do it, the probably just suck
sage raptor
I mean
You can do dps while not doing the correct rotation
Like outlaw and not pressing rtb
wheat jay
Yikes
wheat jay
Well
There are things you can do
Disarm
Stun
Fear
Tho I believe disc respeccing to holy would be the best xD
spice hornet
lol yeah
it was a literal 1 sec death
with the hunter playing fastidivous
fastidious(
dmg mainly came from him
spice hornet
@wheat jay another new WoW player who really likes 3v3 https://check-pvp.fr/us/Area 52/ĆƧƄƓƬƦĆƦ
also likes accents in their name
hmmmm
near delta
with the hunter playing fastidivous
Non casters running echoing or fastidious triggers the hell out of me lol
undone pumice
fastidious prot ware 1 shot was smth else
near delta
Releasing 9.2.5 without the new season is so awk lol
I assume conquest boxes and all that come then
But there won't be anyone to come back for them in season 4 at this rate
dusky crest
returning scrub here, what slot should my legendary be for fury/arms pvp?
sharp meteor
waist enduring arms, fury signet ring sephuz neck or deathmaker back(?)
unity can kind of go wherever but avoiding neck lets u run misshapen o rsephuz
dusky crest
sweet thank you
gaunt rover
Good thing they nerfed the major problem of pvp, fury warr and left rogue alone
Blizzard def plays this game and watches awc
near delta
Good thing they nerfed the major problem of pvp, fury warr and left rogue alone
What fury warr nerf wsa there?
near delta
lmao
gaunt rover
Arcane is getting buffs too lool
last prairie
literally barely even a nerf
undone pumice
dont q for days cuz no motivation to play
get motivated to play again
internet dharts itself in first fucking game
mfw
nimble jasper
āwe noticed outlaw survivability is too muchā
nerfs enduring brawler by 5% and not float like a butterfly
nimble jasper
outlaw got the wrong nerf
idk how they thought snd heal of all things was the source of outlawās immortality
elder wigeon
snd heal is nerfed for sin rogue too
nimble jasper
oh yeah thats the best part to me
they said they targeting outlaw survivability
nerf the entire classes def conduit
lmfao
nimble jasper
outlaw untouched basically tedious
ālook playerbase we nerfed outlaw now stop complainingā