pvp

[wheat jay]

If you play orc its gotta be male, the sprint animation is 100% hunting

You're not prey, you're the predator

[undone pumice]

@jaunty furnace say female orc again and i will

cry and shit my pants

[nimble jasper]

male orc run is like

gotta drop a #2

[wheat jay]

Nah xD

That's male belf run

[ember totem]

New skellie stinks. Old model running animations, standing and all that rocks

[undone pumice]

male orc run

[ember totem]

Looks like he hits himself with a 2hander

[wheat jay]

Speaking of old models

[undone pumice]

deep lore is that he does

[ember totem]

"Bonk bonk bonk"

[wheat jay]

Why does new tauren look like a happy hippie collecting flowers

[ember totem]

Idk it looks like shit

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile old model was an angry fucking Bull on his way to fuck you up

[undone pumice]

hmt tauren looks like that

esp with their melee anim

literally

BONK

[nimble jasper]

female undead is aight

male is

eww

hunchback pov

struggling to flail a stick arm

[undone pumice]

male undead looks like a chivalry 1 character doing bökswings

[nimble jasper]

with a big ass wep

female orc animations

are just so smooth

[ember totem]

I switched from orc to undead, cant stand their animation

[undone pumice]

literal downgrade

why would u go undrad

[nimble jasper]

yeah

undead

/puke

[ember totem]

Looks, better animation

[wheat jay]

Okay okay

[nimble jasper]

female belf has better animations

[wheat jay]

Lets end this debate with the ultimate race with the best model, best warrior animations, best transmogs

[nimble jasper]

than undead

[wheat jay]

Male pandaren

Done.

[ember totem]

Orc, tauren went to garbage when the new model animation released

Bs

[nimble jasper]

female orc is fine

[wheat jay]

Male panda is just the best

[undone pumice]

hmtauren

[ember totem]

No they so wierd

[nimble jasper]

female orcs actually better

[undone pumice]

chad elk

[nimble jasper]

with new model

than old

[undone pumice]

as huge as fucking possible

attracts all the attention on the battlefield

come at me weaklings i am not scared

[ember totem]

Taurens where so good before man and they butchered them

[nimble jasper]

playing a tauren

sitting a 7s kidney

aaaaa

hate it here

[undone pumice]

surviving cuz 1% stam buff

[nimble jasper]

dont think i saw

non orc wars

past 2k really

[undone pumice]

unforch u dont get to see teapots vulpera

[nimble jasper]

orcs are just

hardmode to make a good mog

except shamans

[undone pumice]

wdym

orc is ez mode

no horns, weird lankyness, beardlessness

[nimble jasper]

depends

[undone pumice]

no bulging belly or random holes in asshole for tail

[nimble jasper]

some sets work better

some they’re too wide for

[undone pumice]

and female orc is literally just the human model

for armor

[nimble jasper]

overall female orc is ideal besides its fatter

than fem human

yes

[elder wigeon]

orc isn't that hard

[undone pumice]

counterpoint

[wheat jay]

Disgusting

[undone pumice]

omega shoulderpads on male orc

[wheat knoll]

Just came back to WoW since Shadowlands dropped and picked up a warrior for the first time. What spec do warriors generally find most effective in both Random BGs , Epic BGs and Arena? I’ve never played a max level warrior and am struggling to determine what spec I enjoy most.

[elder wigeon]

Fury warrior

[thick reef]

o

[sharp meteor]

Fury.

[willow nymph]

What's the best class to hard carry

[near delta]

In 2s?

[willow nymph]

2s 3s

I need big CDs and sustain

[near delta]

I mean in 2s it's rogue or hunter

[willow nymph]

hunter bc surv is so strong?

And rogue is just rogue

What class has the highest PvP skill ceiling?

[near delta]

Yeah and it totally destroys assas win condition

[sharp meteor]

generally rogue although w/e ur good at

[willow nymph]

yeah but hunter won't always be like that I feel like a good rogue can kinda win anything

[sharp meteor]

cos anyobdy asking what the best hard carry is won't be hard carrying

[willow nymph]

Good in all forms of PvP

I'll get good enough to be able too lol thanks tho

[raw summit]

warlock

[near delta]

^

[sharp meteor]

game has enough fem orc/nelf sub rogues inting matches and blaming their teammates

[near delta]

People think because they should be carrying their comp that they are.

[lucid walrus]

people think they should be carrying their comp

[near delta]

Also lmao

[mystic barn]

people

[near delta]

The worst thing about pvp is definitely the people

[mystic barn]

and warrior mains

[lucid walrus]

what is feral rn

[unique olive]

what trinkets should a fury warrior be using right now? also how do the 5 new trinkets compare?

[lucid walrus]

medallion + badge or insignia

emblem also decent

this gamemode is so cooked man

[near delta]

Shuffle I hope

[lucid walrus]

yes

why are tanks even allowed for this

both of them run in and die instantly

[jaunty furnace]

Should have seen prot warriors in solo shuffle before they nerfed their tier set inside pvp lol

Every match had one on each side hitting people for 80k+ shield slams nonstop

[lucid walrus]

yah

[near delta]

Arena games the way Holinka intended

[wet scarab]

here for the daily post that resolve is fucking toxic

warlock at 5% procs it and heals to full with drain life

[nimble jasper]

im not queueing 3s

until resolve

and locks get a nerf

[wet scarab]

3s is legit more toxic atm

[elder wigeon]

just play with a lock

[wet scarab]

why would a lock play with a warrior

[elder wigeon]

because they're a demo lock, went from 2300 to 2500 instantly

not everyone is a meta monkey and is willing to experiment

[wet scarab]

allow me to introduce you to alliance LFG

[wild cliff]

What is our best leggo atm?

[lucid walrus]

signet or deathmaker

[sharp meteor]

gosh so many fury warriors queuing now

[scarlet barn]

Gosh

[sharp meteor]

every game me and another warr mashing our 2 buttosn into each other until one of us explodes

hear my healer losing hair in real time

[wet scarab]

I’ve been doing 2s as arms recently and been doing really well mostly because I win against other fury warriors

[near delta]

Arms feels like a hard counter into fury a lot of times

[sharp meteor]

i know i have won vs a lot of better warrs playing arms into fury

[wet scarab]

Most of the matches rn in 2s the dps is either a fury warrior or rogue so I’m finding the arms switch very profitable

I felt like I hit a wall with fury because I fight a lot of comps that counter it or because I just can’t protect my healers very well

More comfortable playing it in 3s with tankier classes

[sharp meteor]

uh what kjind of counters are u seeing

i feel like i brute force unga bunga most stuff in opener in 2s aside from outlaw

3s you're just susceptible to cleaves mostly

[wet scarab]

I’d say rogue healer or rogue mage is like 70% of the matches

I just don’t see a ton of hunters and druids anymore

The problem most of the time is that as fury I’m almost never the target and can’t peel my healer very well

It’s not that rogues aren’t killable just that playing those games as arms feels a lot more forgiving with tools that make it less of a 2 trinkets race

[mystic barn]

arms countering current meta??

[elder wigeon]

nah

every arms warrior I q into i crush like a popcan man

[sharp meteor]

so the issue with parry is that it's short

and fury dam lasts a long time

[sharp meteor]

uhh i feel like im not playing it right but it still seems good

really hard to get feel for things rn especially with my healers constantly trying new stuff

[mystic barn]

how do you not play arms right I’m confused

just bladestorm the disarms

[sharp meteor]

reminds me i need to figure out a grapple wa

[wild cliff]

Reckless defender a viable option now?

Seen a guide on it and it seems pretty good

[elder wigeon]

mediocre at best defensive option with a slight cdr on reck, it's okay i guess, not as good as DM or signet

you need really really high uptime for it to make a difference tbh

[ember totem]

hey guys, playing arms atm would it be be a big issue if I went fury now? almost full conquest set as arms x)

[warped warren]

affli is pretty hot aswell

[elder wigeon]

Need high haste

[ember totem]

Alright and what about mastery?

[undone pumice]

is ok with fury

certainly better than arms mastery

[tough compass]

Vers > haste >>> crit > mastery for fury

[undone pumice]

wtf no

Vers> haste>mastery>crit

[warped warren]

[late nacelle]

Member battle cry?

Member odyns fury?

Member hot blood cold steel?

Member bloodbath?

Member draught of souls?

Member scabbard of kyanos?

[wheat jay]

Battle cry and odyns fury bis

[late nacelle]

Member soul capacitator?

[wheat jay]

Draught was dogshit

[late nacelle]

Member najentus belt?

[wheat jay]

I havent dropped it whole patch

[late nacelle]

Member arcanocrystal?

Member shadowmourne?

Member timeless isle?

[wheat jay]

No

Thankfully I wasn't playing warr during Sunder armor spam time

[undone pumice]

we have bloodbath now wdym

[late nacelle]

The buff one...

[undone pumice]

yea but

same name

[wheat jay]

Can't rly argue with that

[ember totem]

Lol

[wild cliff]

Dm > signet? Not sure what makes one take the edge over the other

[raw summit]

Honestly not that big of a diff

I started DM but like Signet more rn

[sharp meteor]

reliability

[wild cliff]

If you’re rocking signet I’m assuming it’s still on ring but does it matter where unity is? I have unity on my waist

[sharp meteor]

also second storm to dodge cc during conq is neato

wrist unity lets u run sephuz/mirror neck

can also run unity on ring or legs ig

[wild cliff]

I got dm on cloak, signet on ring and unity waist

So unity wrist is the way to go?

[undone pumice]

wrist neck or feet prob best

[wild cliff]

Then what goes into waist slot? Pvp waist?

[raw summit]

Ye

Some haste vers Belt

Hakkar Belt would work if u got a 278 or smth

[undone pumice]

pvp belt
hakkar belt
enduring blow belt if arms

[sand shadow]

wtf is a hakkar belt

[undone pumice]

hakkar from De other sid

drops a hast evers belt i think

[sand shadow]

oh

[undone pumice]

this one

if u get a 278 is bussin

just like nw ring

[wild cliff]

Rip I had one of those last week in vault

What’s the nw ring?

[sand shadow]

just get the pvp one?

[undone pumice]

stitchfl3sh's misplaced signet

[sand shadow]

I mean, you'll need to farm out the conq and honor yea

[undone pumice]

from first boss in NW

[undone pumice]

counterpoint: i play pve and pvp

so i just get whatever has haste vers

[sand shadow]

well its still 278 max right

[undone pumice]

278 max ye

[sand shadow]

cant be 285

[raw summit]

Have 278

Used it for a while

[undone pumice]

idk my pvp gear is also like 270s

[raw summit]

Once ur full gear u wont use pve stuff

But as a bridge

Might aswell

[sand shadow]

ah I guess if you dont have duelist

it makes sense actually

esp if you're just starting to gear

[undone pumice]

yea

im low cr andy

[sand shadow]

or if you have other slots you could be spending the conquest on

[sand shadow]

why

why are you low CR

[undone pumice]

cuz im bad at the game

[sand shadow]

why

[undone pumice]

cuz im not good

[sand shadow]

stop being bad and git gud dude

[undone pumice]

im trying bro

[sand shadow]

idk why you not just doing that

[undone pumice]

trial and error

[raw summit]

Lfg doesnt help

[sand shadow]

I sat 2.5hrs in LFG last night btw

finally, a friend hpala w/ shit gear whispered me

[undone pumice]

yea

[sand shadow]

so the 2.5hrs were useless

[undone pumice]

shadowlands pvp 3xperience

do u have an arena team?

[sand shadow]

but something is wrong in his brain, idk, doesnt want to craft shadowbringer leggo

plays sh0ck barrier instead

[undone pumice]

yes = play
no = ur already not playing, quit the game

[sand shadow]

weirdo

[raw summit]

Anboni reference

Good shit

[undone pumice]

anboni gud content

phil when do we make our hyper succesfull tower ranger achievement suffering series @raw summit

[sand shadow]

why would you do that

[raw summit]

265 unity

Man

[sand shadow]

ye im helping him catch up

he's at least almost full duelist now

and by helping him I mean he's actually helping me not quit the game

by playing with me

[wild cliff]

Do we have “bis” gear for pvp?

[plush cradle]

What even is shock barrier

[undone pumice]

pvp gear

[sand shadow]

PvP gear is our BiS

[sand shadow]

the old leggo, holy shock gives a shield

[raw summit]

Kyrian thing

[sand shadow]

was played before the necro build

as Kyrian

[undone pumice]

crircake why are u here

[plush cradle]

good question

[undone pumice]

dont u have something to do as someone as important he is 0.25x tge human as revvez

[raw summit]

Hero of the alliance critcake you mean

[plush cradle]

Roninx got banned, he can't re-rate me this tier

[raw summit]

Banezi left

[plush cradle]

Wtf

[sand shadow]

https://www.twitch.tv/tay_warr

[undone pumice]

@Banezio

[sand shadow]

this looks like decent content

dbl fury 2v2

[raw summit]

Guess you could ask exeqt where they went

[sand shadow]

lets see

its even 2250 mmr, not even mordor

[dry trail]

signet better for 2s ?

my druid says so

i play death mayka

[wild cliff]

Every slot pvp? Or is there like weapons and other lots that come from pve bis

[sand shadow]

last night I got 10s Siegebreaker in the opener during my pop on a BM hunter

[undone pumice]

if u want to be rlly meticilous

[raw summit]

If u got a 285 jailer wep

[undone pumice]

probably

[raw summit]

Sure

[sand shadow]

[undone pumice]

as some of our pvp gear doest have haste

[raw summit]

Still

285>

[wild cliff]

So replace non haste pvp gear with haste pve?

[fickle forge]

Just get full conq fam

[undone pumice]

maybe a few mythic raid items can replace it

[undone pumice]

yea

[fickle forge]

Haste? Crit? Mast? It'll be fine as long as it's higher ilvl

[undone pumice]

full conq is 1000x easier

[wild cliff]

That’s pvp gear?

[raw summit]

Conquest items

From vault or vendor

[wild cliff]

I’m like new as new when it comes to pvp lol

[fickle forge]

Conquest gear off of the PvP vendor

0 PvE pieces are needed

[wild cliff]

Gotcha

Thanks guys

[sand shadow]

unless you're bleeding edge Mythic raider, nothing but PvP gear makes sense... even if you were to get lucky w/ a M+ vault belt or wtv that has good pvp stats, that's still up to a week of waiting. Can be full gear within a week w/o PvEing so

[fickle forge]

The only PvE piece that outweights PvP pieces on an equal ilvl is mythic jailor weapon

[sand shadow]

I doubt more than a dozen or two of warriors even clear the 285 mythic bosses anyway

[raw summit]

The tier is long

Crab got nerfed dead

You can do it if ur a pve blaster

Not if ur like a 3 mythic SoD shit head scrub like me

[wild cliff]

Looool

I hate that sylvanas trinket is still our bis pve trink :/

[raw summit]

Im just gonna Rock my soleahs

Idc

[fickle forge]

But then again, literally no one has mythic Jailor weapon atm

[raw summit]

I know 2 who do

But they dont pvp

[wild cliff]

Soleahs + overpower crystal

[fickle forge]

I'm gonna make the biggest hot take and say no warrior in the top 20 has mythic jailor weapon

[raw summit]

Probably correct

Although it only costs 36 mil for a full 11/11 boost

[wild cliff]

Just to get nothing KEK

[raw summit]

U get "Guardian of the pattern"

Title

[wild cliff]

W00t

[undone pumice]

"Famed Slayer of The Banished One"

[raw summit]

Nop

Not if ur not in the guild

So trill mes and cdew

Have it

[fickle forge]

I know Blizo used the gavel in AWC

But Idk if he's raiding atm

[raw summit]

Trill actually killed it so maybe we get 285 Gavel trill

Although i doubt they put him on war when they have mes

[fickle forge]

Doesn't look like Mes is raiding on his warr atm

[raw summit]

Ye i doubt it

[fickle forge]

PLAY WARLOCK OR DIE IDIOT

[raw summit]

1 war needed

Rest go bench

[fickle forge]

Bench higher so they can be picked to be the 1 warr

[elfin surge]

:ionJam:

☹️

@keen mica

[lavish tundra]

@keen mica 🔬

[keen mica]

[elfin surge]

🧐

[scarlet barn]

Very sus

[ionic gazelle]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DeafSpineyChoughMikeHogu-IFp6nwcaJxT9l_W8

#sound

[warped warren]

[keen mica]

whats sus about it?

[fickle forge]

Can we cancel Mud?

[elfin surge]

:pepeKMS:

[warped warren]

[elfin surge]

@keen mica

[jaunty furnace]

[wet scarab]

I wish they would do away with the trinket bonus, would be nice to play some matches with OPC and First Sigil

[sharp meteor]

Yowie zowie I'd sure love to queue arenas right now with about 10% less health yepyep

[wet scarab]

well it'd be the same for everyone

get 1200 vers and reset spear

[sharp meteor]

Everybody dies instantly and u want them to die faster

This alcohol is getting expensive

[wet scarab]

I die pretty fast just want a slightly more even playing ground

[copper seal]

sorry what stupid question but as fury what would be the ideal slot for unity if i run deathmaker on the back slot

[wet scarab]

reset fleshcraft + vers bonus from first sigil and my healer can sit chain cc without trinket

[mystic barn]

I don’t think you’d really want them to do away with the trinket bonus

[undone pumice]

neck ring bracers feet

[undone pumice]

thoughts on when we get lock nerfs?

[sand shadow]

god no. Just. Fucking. No

[sharp meteor]

watch there be no tuning and this is just all there is for the next 5 months

[sand shadow]

screw PvE gear in PvP

[sharp meteor]

also i feel like fury is just as if not more likely to get nerfed as destro

[sand shadow]

its literally the best ever design decision to separate them

[sharp meteor]

yep

i don't have to raid and soccer moms don't have to buy carries for pvp gear, everybody is happy

[sand shadow]

thats just a terrible, terrible idea

leave pvp the fuck alone already pls

this is coming from me, having PvP'd since fucking Vanilla, it's trash

even if you're a HC raider now, sooner or later you won't be

and then you're fucked too

i'd rather they bring back legion templates than suffer through raids again

[undone pumice]

just giganerr pve gear in pvp

[sand shadow]

-50 to -80% and a pvp trinkets set bonus, this is finally a working system

[sharp meteor]

ya keepin trinkets out of pvp is nice, they always cause problems

[wheat jay]

And then we get pve pvp trinkets

[sharp meteor]

like wow cool a massive absorb and all 3 people have it SICK

[wheat jay]

Like grenade

[sand shadow]

nothing personal to @wet scarab but brining back pve trinkets into pvp is just such a terrible fucking idea

[wheat jay]

That get abused by rmp

Or shackles that are abused by rmp

Or bfa maledict abused by rmp

Or bfa stacking corruption trinket abused by rmp

[sand shadow]

dw, next ssn we'll get gnomeregan trinkets right

i mean mechagon

[wheat jay]

Fucking rmp

[sand shadow]

the bike trinket and the fire mage bracers

[wheat jay]

They always abuse rmp

[sand shadow]

can't wait

...

can't even begin imagining SL style fire mage w/ the bracers

the stupid bike trinket for melees will also be available, no?

fucking sigh

[wheat jay]

Well, next season warrior can have mythic jaithys max ilvl and Jailer mythic gavel

So fury will be shitting out unreal amounts of dmg

[sand shadow]

what did jaithys do again?

[undone pumice]

proc dmg

[raw summit]

dam and strenght

[undone pumice]

like fiery proc from vanill

[raw summit]

ok not jaithys haver

[undone pumice]

ok raider

ok not crazy person

[sand shadow]

wait if mechagon is coming back w/ proper ilvl items

won't that mean the lazerbeam trinket will also be back

[undone pumice]

perhaps

[raw summit]

the rings too

[sharp meteor]

Punchcard? I don't think so.

[sand shadow]

man you just know all that crazy non-standard loot from Mechagon will have at least 1 item that has super weird scaling

as is tradition with blizzard

[sharp meteor]

Bound to be something, though, yeah.

CDR wrists might be interesting, if only to desync timers.

[sand shadow]

I mean didnt punchcard's ilvl scale off of the actual punchcards in it?

[sharp meteor]

I thought so.

[sand shadow]

like this shit

[sharp meteor]

It's also a trinket which means no bonus.

[sand shadow]

so the trinket itself should see a return

[raw summit]

the rings with those

should be big

[sharp meteor]

The rings might be good for stuff like casters.

[sand shadow]

yeah but there are comps that dont care as much about the set bonus

[sharp meteor]

Like the tankiest comp yep

[sand shadow]

like, if you're RMX, do you care if you drop some stam and main stat if you get a 2nd Resonator-like trinket?

[sharp meteor]

yepypepyepye

not looking forward to it

[undone pumice]

more rmx buffs?

[sand shadow]

oh right, the IF-THEN rings

I forgot about these

@undone pumice

what do you think xd

[undone pumice]

this close to rerolling league of legends

play the other shitty popular game

[sand shadow]

extra fireblasts that trigger infernal cascade and are off gcd... during bust

Scarege

[undone pumice]

permabust

[lean burrow]

guys, what do you have for spell queue window?

default 400?

[undone pumice]

what

[sand shadow]

think mine is 120

no 170

[sharp meteor]

since mop or something they let u queue spells

used to be u had to spam but now there's a buffer

[sharp meteor]

i like how they had to hide this shit because dumdums set theirs to 0 lmao

[sand shadow]

i've found the popular rule of your avg ms + 100 is adequate

[lean burrow]

ok, thanks

[sand shadow]

mine is avg like 55ms so I put it at 170 i guess

which reminds me of Whaazz spamtalking about Mehh's net problems a while back and him having to play w/ the "unplayable 80ms"

[lean burrow]

hm, is it better to cast something wrong than not cast at all one or half gcd?

[sharp meteor]

pardon

[sand shadow]

how about you cast the right stuff

[lean burrow]

i mean when it's laggy

[sand shadow]

while not leaving half gcd gaps

[undone pumice]

i just spam anyway even when is buffered

[sharp meteor]

just have cqs bound into important stuff that's still on global

that and having a medallion + defensive bind actually rly nice when games are as violently fast as they are

[sand shadow]

I swear, having trinket + 1 or even 2 defensives in a single bind

is actually the fucking play

[sharp meteor]

yaya i been saying since s1

[sand shadow]

I've died because of slow fingers

[sharp meteor]

im like yo bind medallion ground, or medallion dark, or any wall

u wwanna make sure it going off

[sand shadow]

since some of my defensives are physically apart from others on the kbd

[sharp meteor]

my parry is alt f and trinket is 6, those are not the comfiest to hit in a pinch

[sand shadow]

like BM+Rally would be shift + tab and then Shift + 4

which takes some actual time to press

[sharp meteor]

generally speed isn't a big concern because arena kind of slow but holy fk this season

[sand shadow]

alt + F

I dislike alt modifiers myself unless its sth trivial

you press alt w/ your thumb right?

[sharp meteor]

my thumb is between alt and space generally ya

[sand shadow]

mb with practise i'll get used to it I guess

i really dislike moving my thumb that far under my palm

[elfin surge]

deez

[sand shadow]

but thats preference

[raw summit]

alt 2 is orc alt 3 is hp pot

otherwise i dont use alt

[nimble jasper]

i use alt alot

idk

[undone pumice]

alt 2 is trinket

[warped warren]

since like forever lol

[sharp meteor]

it wasn't around in early cata but i skipped mid-late cata so dont remember when it was added

just that spamming until then was an actual dps increase

cos u had gaps otherwise

[mystic barn]

bm and rally

mortal and op

[sharp meteor]

where bis macro

[mystic barn]

op + ip or ip + rampage

[undone pumice]

#showtooltip Invincible's Reins
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Mortal Strike
/say fuck you

[twilit ridge]

Do you want my self targeting, world shrinker, glad mount, achieve link macro???

[full quiver]

hahahaha

[near delta]

That's the stuff

[dry trail]

my healer keeps buggin me to craft signer in 2s

should i do it ?

signet*

i have deathmaker

[undone pumice]

is good

but

dm good too

[shadow forge]

yo against which comps should I use double time/warbringer?

[undone pumice]

when u need stick

or go every game zugger

[shadow forge]

yea I know but like what hunters and mages?

I mean when it is worth trading it for stormbolt

[full quiver]

as fury you usually play IV or double time

fuck stormbolt lol

[shadow forge]

idk I see so many r1s playing stormbolt

like mes yesterday

[dry trail]

stormbolt for evasion blur

dh rogue

hunters warlocks double time

mirror i take bolt

[shadow forge]

what about mages?

[undone pumice]

bloodrage

[sharp meteor]

bloodrage to break their conc but especially binding shot and frost nova

[elfin surge]

stormbolt is for caveman

[dry trail]

MUD u play signet or deathmaker in 2s ?

[lean island]

what spec is easiest to play in arena and why? fury or havoc? i find havoc easier but wanna ask to exp player

[dry trail]

i body every demon hunter at 2k mmr

after blur it's gg

[lean island]

probably dh is harder cause u need pre defensive and need to manage darkness and reverse?

[sharp meteor]

havoc feels worse into setup stuff as u sit full elf stuff

also no defensives usable while stunned

[elfin surge]

signet

[frank knoll]

Didn’t magnusz have like a 89% win rate at one point

[undone pumice]

magnusz also a burger

[full quiver]

Not this season lol

[near delta]

That's reserved for RMP players

[full quiver]

lol

[nimble jasper]

psure whaazz mainteam rmp

maintains over a 90% 3s wr

every season

[near delta]

Doesn't surprise me lol

[nimble jasper]

“had a pretty good sesh only thing we lost to was jungle which is to be expected”

idk why back to human tho

[sharp meteor]

outlaw is actually impossible

[near delta]

Actually tho

[dry trail]

assasin also stronk

dem one shots

[sharp meteor]

assa is w/e gimme assa any day

[dry trail]

i got poped 2 times

[sharp meteor]

u can trade into sepsis just fine

outlaw takes no dmg and shuts down any go on their partner

actually can't win unless they're blackout drunk and their healer takes their hands off the keyboard

[nimble jasper]

yeah assa isnt hard

[dry trail]

actually i climed 100 cr today and learned a lot from my healer partner

[nimble jasper]

you just trade for the vendetta sepsis

[dry trail]

and he was like begging me to go signet

didn't like deathmaker at all

[nimble jasper]

if healer has a brain

you dont beat outlaw healer

besides as surv healer maybe

[sharp meteor]

signet is rly nice

[nimble jasper]

maybe outlaw rsham

[sharp meteor]

deathmaker seems okay-fine, along with sephuz

but signet just super cool

[nimble jasper]

cuz shaman sucks dong

[near delta]

Outlaw/rdruid is the absolute worse

[nimble jasper]

this season

[near delta]

Just don't do anything all game

[nimble jasper]

every time i play with a sham

i feel like

i have a healing received debuff

on top of an ms

[dry trail]

no no shamans only resto > hpriest > mistweaver > hpal

[nimble jasper]

i hate

hpriests who play chastise stun

with rogue

stop inting

play incap

or druids that stun rando

and waste drs

@dry trail tbh im more afraid of sub hpriest

than assa

kidney with resonators go is really spook

or kidney with kyrian boon

[near delta]

No resonator season 4 pls

[nimble jasper]

then you just

get flag dueled

with double reson

[dense cedar]

Hello any viable comps for war as double dps in 2's ?

[naive night]

ret warr is good i think

[dense cedar]

I saw a dude playing war with feral 2k+ was working

got me interested

[undone pumice]

maleeict s4

[elder wigeon]

double dps in 2's for warrior? warrior enhance is as viable as it gets

warrior feral is also very good

[sharp meteor]

feral, ret, enh, maybe something like dk and u play pending

really though something that's aggro feels best because trying to damp 2s super cringe

[elder wigeon]

tier list of viable double dps specs with warrior

this is not an overall meta ranking, just a ranking of the warrior double dps comps relative to the others

[undone pumice]

wtf

[dense cedar]

Thanks a lot for the replies guys

apreciated

[undone pumice]

why ww so high

[elder wigeon]

because 1 shots and can run forever

D tier is not high lol

[lucid walrus]

surprised dk sits B

[undone pumice]

same

[elder wigeon]

me too, it's actually kinda nuts

[lucid walrus]

who made this one?

[elder wigeon]

me just now

[lucid walrus]

ah

[undone pumice]

@raw summit l2p unholy

[elder wigeon]

there's a big gap between b and A tier

[lucid walrus]

that's true

[raw summit]

l2s my nuts

[elder wigeon]

you can actually get high rated with feral and enhance

[undone pumice]

i already do wtf

i suck ur nuts and funnel opcs to u

[raw summit]

dude another one dropped

+2d the 20 for ez opc 3

[near delta]

Good I'll just go nelf

[elder wigeon]

😢 i wanna be an undead warrior

[dry trail]

ok i just made signet for 2s

[elder wigeon]

the aesthetic is too legit

[dry trail]

in before i get all bladestorm procs and not avatar on goes

[near delta]

How does dk/warr work in 2s. Lol

Seems like 0 sustain

And you just lose if the healer does his job right

[elder wigeon]

bladestorm procs on reck are a good thing for sure, avatar is def nice too

[raw summit]

it dont

[undone pumice]

undead warr is og af

i was undead in classic before i realized id rather suffer in retail

[warped warren]

give back old human female

[elder wigeon]

dk war does work in 2's, you have to play fury and play full heal build

your dk does all the ccing

[dry trail]

what cc after necro grab he's dead

i've lost to one ret / fury tho

[elder wigeon]

asphyx, strangulate, perma 70% slows, insane damage, strong self healing

not to mention 40% ms from fury + up to 25% healing absorb from necrotic taking it up to 65% ms at peak

[near delta]

Ah I guess with unholy having the off healing from wounds plus deathstike and coil

[elder wigeon]

it's a noob stomper comp, you won't do very well at higher ratings like 2400 and above

[near delta]

That's pretty crazy

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[elder wigeon]

that's where feral fury war and enhance fury do significantly better

[dry trail]

enchance has instant heals ?

[undone pumice]

yea

[nimble jasper]

i swear

so many healers

[near delta]

I tried enhance/fury once but the guy was kind of an asshole and it didn't go very well lol

[undone pumice]

maelstrom wep

[nimble jasper]

dont understand how unholy dam works

and then are surprised

[elder wigeon]

enhance has 75% of the healing of an rsham

[nimble jasper]

when knee deep in heal absorbs

[undone pumice]

every 5 stacks = double value and instant healing surge/bolt/chain harvest

[nimble jasper]

enh healing is some of the dumbest shit

this ssn

[undone pumice]

enh healing

[near delta]

In short games 125%

[undone pumice]

[dry trail]

while resto shaman in 2s is garbage and get's trained

even with ascendance

[undone pumice]

play better

[elder wigeon]

rsham healing is kinda wack

[undone pumice]

but in a diff way that hpriest is wack

[dry trail]

my favourite is resto druid

this ssn

[nimble jasper]

i’ve killed rshams this season

with just damage

no cc

[near delta]

Spirit Link with how fast the meta is right now just feels terrible to play around too

[nimble jasper]

rdruid is just funny

[undone pumice]

u mean u played fury

[nimble jasper]

because onebanging rdruids who dont prehot themselves

in anticipation

[nimble jasper]

naw i was on monk

fury is a bigger joke

so many people facetank reck banner pop

[undone pumice]

monk and fury are both

just why

u go punch people to death and theres nothing they do

[full quiver]

Yeah not sure what to do as survival vs hpal fury in 2s lol

[nimble jasper]

monk the same as last season

you get a proc and if they dont respond to the pop

they eat 10-12k dps

and die

[undone pumice]

literally nothings changed between fury now and last season during burst at least

u still just press crushing blow

[nimble jasper]

i had a game last week vs an rsham team

man just trinket links at 20%

so i get another proc and kill his teammate

doing the same shit

[full quiver]

lol

except it does 10% more dam and has more charges

and your burst lasts way longer

[elder wigeon]

i love taking 24k dmg a tick from SCK keefer crits

[nimble jasper]

its annoying tracking ww dmg sometimes

cuz how much its split

[elder wigeon]

I laugh when i intervene someone against a monk and it does nothing because all their dmg is AOE

[nimble jasper]

thats when you change targets

and kill warrior instead

[undone pumice]

warrior getting punished for trying to help is like gettinf sued for doing cpr

[nimble jasper]

the funniest parts of those games to me is for some reason

they all choose to use fear

on tony the tiger

[dry trail]

safeguard 278 op

[elder wigeon]

took this long for safeguard to be as good as vigilance was in mop

[sand shadow]

SL doesn't let little things like 20-30% DR stay in the way of fucking retarded oneshots

[elder wigeon]

that too

hpally wall is a joke for that same reason LMAO

[sand shadow]

this is literally the stupidest expansion i've ever had to suffer through

im honestly done at this point

hot take: BFA was better.

I swear, it was

cancer as it was

[nimble jasper]

20% dr?

lol

[sand shadow]

it at least made fuckin sense

[nimble jasper]

kill through

[elder wigeon]

stockholm syndrome

[sand shadow]

nope

reality

[elder wigeon]

bfa was trash and slands is trash for many reasons too

[nimble jasper]

i remember uhh whos rmp was it

queueing into jung early season

[sand shadow]

both were complete pile of garbage thats for sure

[nimble jasper]

“if priest trinket domes sub 50% we just kill through”

[sand shadow]

but in bfa, stuff made more sense to me

[dry trail]

clark olafson syndrome see clark series in netflix

[nimble jasper]

actually funny to thing about

[sand shadow]

I just got solo'd by a rogue mage, after killing the fire mage within the first 30s of the game, killing his stupid seed

and then the sub rogue

[nimble jasper]

that a mage sees trinket dome from a disc at 50%

then decides

[sand shadow]

SSteps behind my evasion

[nimble jasper]

combust kill in dr cheapshot

[sand shadow]

KS bomb duel resonator

and kills me 100-0%

in 2.6s

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah

evasion does nothing into sub rmp

[sand shadow]

a few games before that

[nimble jasper]

🤡

[sand shadow]

apparently MM hunters can Fleshcraft in Camouflage

hunters comes out

and kills my priest in 1s legit

and is immune to any stops

10/10

[nimble jasper]

i love

convoke ferals

with 3min trinket

[sand shadow]

then I meet hp/destro and I say fuck it, cba fucking rating around pillars

no CDs

0 CDs

86K in 0.9s

100-0

in a microCC

[nimble jasper]

destro is high skillcap spec

[jaunty furnace]

The shadowlands season 3 experience

[nimble jasper]

🤡

[jaunty furnace]

[sand shadow]

to pretend this expansion is better than BFA

is just plain wrong

[nimble jasper]

my main issue with bfa

[sand shadow]

BFA was annoying, but not as broken as this

[nimble jasper]

was sinister season

[sand shadow]

this is pure broken stuff

[undone pumice]

shadowlands s3 experience is playing the game wrong on purpose

[sand shadow]

that is not getting attention for over a year now

I had a game last night on my fury

I had 30s Recklessness

no signet

deathmaker

just procs from CBlow

#makessense

[nimble jasper]

I had a 2s on pirate last week

5 roll

[sand shadow]

30s of complete RAMPAGE

[nimble jasper]

kill rsham

through every cd

[elder wigeon]

usually the experience is, as the expansion goes on, the game gets better, in this case, the game gets worse LMAO

[undone pumice]

30s is cute

deathborne is an entire fucking minute

[nimble jasper]

his rsham got on top of me

and i just

[dry trail]

ye was gonna say about deathborne

[nimble jasper]

bladeflurried them both down

like its an m+ key

ermm

dh

[elder wigeon]

if they can proc db during their db it extends it, you gotta get out of line of the mage for a while

[nimble jasper]

sl s3 mlx

is more braindead

than bfa s4 mlx

really makes you think

[undone pumice]

u just dont get to play the game for minutes at a time right now vs mlx

[nimble jasper]

tho rmp was deco into bfa s4 mlx

you just ran spites

and lock couldnt play corruption

or die

[full quiver]

yeah we were cheesing as disc KFC last season doing that

lol

[sand shadow]

fucking retarded

[full quiver]

the best part too

[sand shadow]

i am actually so triggered

[full quiver]

i would disarm warriors

and they'd die

probably spamming parry

lmao

[sand shadow]

playing my outlaw now on like 2.2k mmr because I am complete and UTTER DOGSHIT rogue player w/ 0 xp

I meet rdudu/fury

dudu tranqs my blind

warr storms 3 kidneys

[full quiver]

lol

[sand shadow]

and fleshcrafts

1 disarm

and I absolutely smash them

they played like fucking gods

but i am outlaw/hp

[nimble jasper]

ngl

when i run into

[sand shadow]

so hf doing anything mr fury

[nimble jasper]

fury/rdruid on outlaw

[sand shadow]

.........

[nimble jasper]

i just run at priest

and bladeflurry

and win eventually

🤡

[undone pumice]

definition of losing in char select screen

[sand shadow]

I felt fucking bad dude

literally

because I know how it feels

[nimble jasper]

altho

[sand shadow]

to lose to fucking dogshit players like myself

[nimble jasper]

i dont feel bad doing it to hunters

[sand shadow]

because I am carried by spec

[nimble jasper]

cuz fuck hunter players

i love just rando losing 40% hp

cuz mr hunter

[undone pumice]

when u play pirate

u shkuld feel bad

[nimble jasper]

procced 3 killshots

in a row

no cds

[full quiver]

bro

survival is so fun

lol

[nimble jasper]

so is pirate

as long as you arent on the receiving end

[undone pumice]

so is fire mage

haha procs go BRRRR

[full quiver]

i will say tho

survival into fury/hpal feels awful

war has like 2-3 root breaks, then hpal freedoms and bops

shit is retarded lol

[undone pumice]

fuck you

[nimble jasper]

i debated playing shadowdust into hunters

just so he can never dps while evasion is down

[elder wigeon]

I love shitting on surv hunters

[sand shadow]

I just played

vs a tauren survival hunter

i have now seen it all

[near delta]

Feels like pillaring their burst is throwing sometimes since they'll just triangle you to death

[undone pumice]

ye

[wheat jay]

Told you

But you didnt listen

Fury is disgusting

[full quiver]

it's the hpal

freedoms

lol

[wheat jay]

And charges from raging blow xd

[sharp meteor]

survs finally tasting what it's like to be on the receiving end

outlaw and fury just cutting everybody down

[full quiver]

lol

[wheat jay]

Some classes have to use their kits, fury just smashes head on keyboard

At least arms needs to play well to win

[near delta]

Why press many button when few button do trick

I need to try necro arms with double time in 2s lmao

[wheat jay]

https://c.tenor.com/xOQododF_V8AAAAM/gorilla-walking-gorilla.gif

Fury

Ook ook

Fury is the bm Hunter of season 3

[frank knoll]

Bm hunter is the Bm hunter of season 3. They’re still stronk and retarded

[wheat jay]

Ye but not like last season, and let me elaborate a bit

Fury is too strong and too retarded for how easy it is, same as bm Hunter last season

[undone pumice]

same as bm hunter now

[fickle forge]

Man, if only hunter had a purge

[frank knoll]

You used to be able to kill fury in a stun, not anymore bros

[full quiver]

yeah i always hit it

i talked about that with my guy after the game

that we probably need to use empty globals to kee pwar clean

so we can purge freedom insta

[fickle forge]

Idk what else you'd purge from Hpala

They apply almost no buffs

[frank knoll]

You purge divine favor

And BoP

[sharp meteor]

queued like two dozen games the other day, half into fury, and most matches ended with one of the two of us dying from 90% through every button in like 2 seconds

[frank knoll]

The only time we don’t die in 2 secs when we lose is when we queue into outlaw

[blazing trellis]

guys whats the best slots for legendary for necro fury pvp

[elder wigeon]

not tier and preferably something that can have a socket

[wary frigate]

why is ring slot so popular for legendary crafts

[elder wigeon]

because socket and can stack whatever stats you want since pvp ring is unique equipped

[wary frigate]

but i see some top warrs go the crafted ring + legendary ring

why wouldnt they do crafted + pvp and legendary item another slot

e.g. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/smexxin

why not put legendary on wrist

[elder wigeon]

it's technically a way to reduce the amount of versatility you have

I put unity on wrist because I want to use a pvp ring and crafted ring instead

[wary frigate]

why would u want to reduce versitility

[lucid walrus]

not too impactful >30%

[nimble jasper]

nah bro

33% versa instead of 30

is why you didnt get overkilled

by 100%

[lucid walrus]

1.5% DR do be soundin nice on paper

[nimble jasper]

unless destro

then your mastery

is also dr

[lucid walrus]

locks complaining about squishiness ever

[nimble jasper]

dark pact

btw

[lucid walrus]

something something 40% wall something something usable while stunned something something uninterruptable

pact, coil

[nimble jasper]

gate

demonic circle

[lucid walrus]

these mfers have more defensives than fury has rotational buttons. not a high bar but still

[wet scarab]

The thing about warlocks is on top of the resolve trinket they have an ability called inherent resolve that does what the trinket does and is a 20% wall dr

I’m not sure why they got a trinket that gives them their major defensive again

It’s like if a trinket gave us enraged regen as a proc

And made us immune to x

Cc

[wary frigate]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=104773/unending-resolve
?

i get why warrs hate on resolve, but if you consider the fact that fury can sit on a destro, for example, and almost keep him from casting even WITH the trinket, it really is the only thing making them viable rn

[nimble jasper]

ok thats copium

[nimble jasper]

you wont stop a lock from casting

[elder wigeon]

unending resolve is 40%

[nimble jasper]

unless you’re playing mordor mmr

juking kicks is a skill that used to be required

now I see mages juke the most which is ironic since the class doesnt need to

[mystic barn]

have never seen a frost mage juke frost bolt

[elder wigeon]

no point to juke

[wet scarab]

Unending resolve yes sorry

[nimble jasper]

locked on frost

killed in lockout

xddd

jk

only works on 1400 mages