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nimble jasper
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if this spec doesnt get nerfed

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idk

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granted its vs another rogue but still

undone pumice
raw summit
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?

elder wigeon
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outlaw dmg isn't like unreal but it can't die and has insane utility

raw summit
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Fury ish

elder wigeon
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nah

raw summit
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But doesnt die

lucid walrus
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30yd blind kinda nuts

elder wigeon
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not even close

lucid walrus
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let alone 90sec cd

undone pumice
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its fury but immortal and goes stealth

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and has a gun

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why does it have a gun

raw summit
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Outlul doesnt really go for re's

near delta
raw summit
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Yarr bitches

elder wigeon
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fury has much more dmg, way squishier, doesn't even have 1/10th of the cc

undone pumice
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being stealth in the opener is still strong

lucid walrus
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cr swashbucklers staying in combat for a full minute with 7sec kidney + 100k hp

raw summit
undone pumice
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really tempted to roll an outlul after u said swashbucklers

sharp meteor
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ya

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rly good and fun

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can't die, infinite cc, good dam

willow nymph
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Booty bandit

undone pumice
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i am already

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big fan of peerat mogs

elder wigeon
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i swear as long as you have a pulse you can't lose as outlaw RMP

lucid walrus
willow nymph
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can't a rogue play with anyone too

nimble jasper
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you dont go for re yes

undone pumice
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no

nimble jasper
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unless you are about to die

mystic barn
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what’s more skilled fury or outlaw

nimble jasper
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altho you can briefly re to ambush

lucid walrus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY impossible to lose with this playing on your outlaw

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undone pumice
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you cant play with warrior i think

elder wigeon
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I'm actually surprised we haven't seen outlaw ret hpriest

nimble jasper
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to proc conduit

sharp meteor
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outlaw is like the best spec in the game rn i swear to god

nimble jasper
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theres honestly 2 ways to lose as outlaw to other melee in 2s

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your healer feeds

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or

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you d/c

undone pumice
elder wigeon
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on wings you can do a double kidney hoj go

mystic barn
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I’m waiting to see more fury unholy kyrian hpriest bombing enemy team

willow nymph
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can my rogue double dps with anyone tho

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Just be cc bot

undone pumice
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mage

nimble jasper
undone pumice
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feral too ig

nimble jasper
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yeah rogue mage is at least

lucid walrus
nimble jasper
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2 tiers above every other rogue double dps

lucid walrus
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i saw sub/sp and sin/sp played when sp was still crazy in s2

nimble jasper
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rogue hunter SLIGHTLY works

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but you are very time limited

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before you eventually die

dark sparrow
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Chun is also starting to play outlaw, whaazz also playing it

nimble jasper
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a good rogue mage

willow nymph
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I like being up in their face tho

nimble jasper
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can play a 2s game for like 8mins

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if they want

willow nymph
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Rogue very pussy

lucid walrus
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chun will try anything. props for that

raw summit
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Ye not suprising whaazz can play it

lucid walrus
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bro tried brewmaster last seas

undone pumice
lucid walrus
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clash is a hilarious button

nimble jasper
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also weird thing about outlaw is just

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the damage just comes out

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of left field

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at least for burst

undone pumice
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but u cant mog it

nimble jasper
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bte hits 4x harder

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if it crits

sage raptor
undone pumice
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same with dragon roar

willow nymph
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are rogues fully cd reliant

nimble jasper
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altho if rogue rolls a 5 buff

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you have to

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clench your cheeks

willow nymph
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if you don't one shot

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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for the next 30-40s

willow nymph
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Are you out of dam

mystic barn
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is arms dbts conduit 20 seconds

undone pumice
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idk what is arms?

nimble jasper
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rogue plays around drs

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to do damage

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except outlaw kinda

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always has damage

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rofl

undone pumice
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ourlaw just

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is a pirate

nimble jasper
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also at low mmr

willow nymph
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refilling

undone pumice
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he do what he want

nimble jasper
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you can catch alot of bad healers off guard

willow nymph
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rerolling

nimble jasper
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since your kick is

undone pumice
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cause a pirate is free

nimble jasper
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8 yd range

undone pumice
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yarrre

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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"oh i can top my guy safely from here"

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jk

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kicked

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gouge

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cheapshotted

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dps dead

raw summit
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Bloodsail Admiral title

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Full bloodsail tmog

undone pumice
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bloodsail gang gang

raw summit
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Yarr

nimble jasper
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also for some reason

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gouge is a 15s cd

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for a 4s incap

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????

undone pumice
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i wanna try warr + rogue at some point

raw summit
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Bloodsail Admiral Gunspec

nimble jasper
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the only downside to gouge

raw summit
nimble jasper
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is it has a positional req

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literally it

undone pumice
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Bloodsail Admiral Paychpatient

mystic barn
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deez

raw summit
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Dumb name

nimble jasper
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like technically if youre bigbrained enough

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you can turn your camera way

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before he gouges

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to avoid it

undone pumice
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technically if ur big brain enkugh

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u can turn ur camera at the disarmer during dbts

nimble jasper
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also blinding powder

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blind 30 yd range

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try to fake

raw summit
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@undone pumice if u level rog i tank on my dh peepo

undone pumice
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rogue is lvl 10

nimble jasper
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psure there was an outlaw fury on eu

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a few weeks ago

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it was somewhat a thing in legion

undone pumice
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3s?

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or 2s

nimble jasper
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yes

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3s

undone pumice
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big

lucid walrus
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i have a clip of karg & artji queuing into outlaw/arms last seas

undone pumice
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we brinf back tbc cleave

nimble jasper
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its prob still worse

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than outlaw ww

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or outlaw thug

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though

undone pumice
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i refuse to queue with wws and hunters

nimble jasper
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altho rogue's og run down healers comp

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is prolly smokebomb

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lmao

undone pumice
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og comp is literally warr + rogue no?

nimble jasper
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smokebomb was w key healer

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assa rog+dk

undone pumice
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i mean

raw summit
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Dude

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Fury dh

undone pumice
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OGOGOG

raw summit
undone pumice
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dh

nimble jasper
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arms dh in legion

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was big fun ngl

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when you just paintrain buffed

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his fel barrage

raw summit
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Sounds like a hard zerg comp

undone pumice
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dh + fury 2s is still litty

near delta
nimble jasper
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it was

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my first 2k too

raw summit
nimble jasper
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as war

undone pumice
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it is

nimble jasper
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we'd instant global shams 100-0

undone pumice
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fuk u

nimble jasper
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in a stormbolt

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as soon as they swapped earthshield

raw summit
nimble jasper
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swap earthshield, instant see warrior leap over and bolt

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as dh meta leaps on top

undone pumice
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mostly ends up being dhs

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we just go and ravage some1

nimble jasper
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psure on eu

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there was a sub ww team

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at r1

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keefers necro ww+venthyr crit lego sub

undone pumice
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iove when i play with a ww

nimble jasper
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the french are wild tbh

undone pumice
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and he just does negative dmg

nimble jasper
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legit watch them just

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half cheapshot a guy

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and unload full burst

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kill any leather/clothie 100-0

undone pumice
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@Troma

nimble jasper
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or this

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sub enh

undone pumice
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what

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what happened

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he just died

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literally looked like week 1 sl sub

nimble jasper
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venthyr flag+vanish for crits

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badge+blades

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and prob chainharvest

undone pumice
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actual canonnical hate crime

earnest wharf
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does depths of insanity also increase the reckless from 4pc procs?

elder wigeon
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no

earnest wharf
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damn 😦

undone pumice
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wtf is that@elder wigeon

elder wigeon
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live slug reaction

sharp meteor
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my face queuing into mlx for the 5th time

undone pumice
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my face queuing

warped warren
nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor

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ahahaha

sharp meteor
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Bahahah

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Every time

nimble jasper
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tbf

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2k fire mages

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are insanely shit

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and you still have to severely outplay to not die to them in rm

mystic barn
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Why does it tak 10 yrs to get an alt up and running

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i do appreciate the fact that all the legos i rpeviously unlocked on main are available on alt tho

nimble jasper
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honor costs

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mostly

clear glacier
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guys, pvp kyrian arms warr, what is the stat priority iyo

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im like 10% haste and rest i go with crit

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ik vers is prio, but after vers is my question 😄

sharp meteor
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some haste some crit idk

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probably like 12-15 haste then either go more haste or branch into crit

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full haste feels nice, full crit feels bad, a mix feels nice

mystic barn
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how far from unity am i if im on pocopocopoco part

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@sharp meteor

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😡

sharp meteor
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ocopopcoao?

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maybe like umm an hour

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idk i space out on that questline

mystic barn
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OH MY LORD

clear glacier
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thanks teapot

elder wigeon
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i hope i make every hunter in the 2v2 bracket seethe and cope

mystic barn
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@sharp meteor How do you unlock the 239 conduits from vendor? i thought if you completed campaign it let you get em if your main already had the rep

terse sigil
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xdeeee

tulip mauve
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not me home-brewing a fighter and ripping off 5 warrior spells

fickle forge
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What is this

tulip mauve
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dnd custom spells

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I made for my fighter

fickle forge
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Eyo but like

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Why here?

tulip mauve
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because

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Read my message?

elder wigeon
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I think he means why in #pvp

fickle forge
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I mean it's a cool concept but again

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Why here? 🤔

tulip mauve
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Because they are warrior inspired abilities

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I thought you guys would maybe be interested

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Sorry if I'm wrong 😄

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OOH

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THIS IS PVP

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IM RETARDED SORRY

fickle forge
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🙃

tulip mauve
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JESUS CHRIST

elder wigeon
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haha

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kargish did you watch the clip of me making the hunter alt f4?

fickle forge
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Yah, it's poetic justice

elder wigeon
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makes me smile when i think of it

undone pumice
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i cant even tell whats happening in your ui wtf

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too advanced high tech

elder wigeon
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quite simple

undone pumice
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why do u have like

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70 insignias

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on the right

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how do ueven have so many binds with fury wtf

fickle forge
elder wigeon
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I don't lol

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I just fill empty space with garbage for fun

undone pumice
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wtf

near delta
elder wigeon
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yea that's some meshuggah

near delta
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I have slam on my bar just cause it irks me if I have empty space

elder wigeon
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ah nah fuck that noise I don't have it bound

undone pumice
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u have onslaught bound

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but not slam

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xd

elder wigeon
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onslaught is 10x better than slam as fury

undone pumice
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both are

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doggest shi

fickle forge
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Where's Shield Block?

undone pumice
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true

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where shield slam

elder wigeon
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should be able to use a 2h and a shield

undone pumice
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yea

elder wigeon
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should be added to prot warrior tbh

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extra flavor

undone pumice
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yea

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prot should be fundamentally reworked

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it sucks

raw summit
elder wigeon
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I mean there should be a lot more fury in prot

raw summit
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I see xar uses it

undone pumice
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true

elder wigeon
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Sarena

raw summit
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Oh then im just to Bad to customize it?

undone pumice
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yea

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arena today phil?

raw summit
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Mines still with classic appearance

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Idk tbh

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I wanna try get the 21 dos down

undone pumice
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dos today?

raw summit
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Im not taking u to a 21

elder wigeon
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there's 3 presets for sarena

raw summit
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Tbh

undone pumice
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wtf

elder wigeon
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I'm using the xaryu preset and I modified it to my liking

raw summit
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Then ill take a look into it

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Ty

undone pumice
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phil bully

raw summit
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If u have 3k io

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U can come

undone pumice
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brb getting 3kio

raw summit
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Good

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Not even bully just tryna get my key timed

undone pumice
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i do big pumper dmg

raw summit
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What's ur average overall

undone pumice
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idk

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at least 3 probably

near delta
finite escarp
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Anyone have any tips in 2s vs frost mage as fury? They seem to always give me trouble....tons of damage, i cant stick on them to well...i try to kite and LoS during deathborne but they just stay on me

undone pumice
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take bloodrage

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for rootbreak

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lets u los/chase better

finite escarp
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cool thanks...and is the play to try and wait out deathborne by LoS usually? unlesse CCing him

near delta
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Double time warbringer and blood rage

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Generally you just want to gas pedal him even if he has deathborne up

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Our pressure is just too much so he'll end up polying you or ice blocking on his cds

finite escarp
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ahh ok cool ty ill give this a shot next time

near delta
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Gl! You'll know you're doing it right if they just die if they don't peel you. Lol

echo wave
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Does the empowered victory rush conduit apply to impending victory too?

undone pumice
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ye

echo wave
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Pog

willow nymph
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DH fury has to be so much scary pressure

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I main DH there's nothing better than just hanging on kids there's so much damage

dry trail
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best is mud's setup with double time warbringer in 2s i think and ocasional pick up of blood rage

sharp meteor
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ya ya spam dam

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just don't play it passively

late nacelle
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can someone explain to me why rogues have evasion every time I try to hit them

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this is fucking bullshit

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outlaw rogue new doomed matchup or what

sharp meteor
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outlaw is fucked u never win

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also hits into evasion reduce its cd further

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evasion = off

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also all ur buttons get disarmed kidneyed vanished evasioned blinded gouged etc

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u never kill outlaw unless they're blackout drunk unironically

raw summit
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yes

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3 secs per hit

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so 12 sec cdr on rampage

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  • all the melee hits
undone pumice
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simply turn ur back to them

late nacelle
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that is actually so fokked

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wtf

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never hitting rogue ever again

sharp meteor
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my only losses on my alt warr were to outlaws i think

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just actually can't do anything

late nacelle
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didnt play since season 1

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now I come back

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and see holy priests walking up to me and bursting for 50k damage

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wtf is happening

raw summit
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kyrian

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boon hurtz

sharp meteor
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also i love fury i kill most hunters in opener

lean burrow
raw summit
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ye

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u dont get rb often with tier

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since ur gnna cb

undone pumice
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doesnt cb work for that talent

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just not btrance

sharp meteor
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something like bloodrage for root break then warbringer and slaughterhouse feels nice although not playing with enduring can feel weird as times as it gets rid of that nice little buffer

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have to remove that it's like rampage>dump

near delta
sharp meteor
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also i tried to reassure somebody on the forums that there aren't many former high mmr players that'll snap you in half in the opener floating around low mmr then i queue into him a few hours later and snap him in half in the opener heck

near delta
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But yeah it makes things feel a lot more smooth

sharp meteor
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i need to compare bloodrage with that actually

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in terms of like output

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because the off global short cd root break itself is great but so is the rage

wet scarab
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Just check enrage uptime in details in games with or without the talent. If you’re floating under 70% uptime then you should use the talent imo

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You don’t have it in pve so it can feel overkill if you’re used to maintaining enrage uptime in a pve context

sharp meteor
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hmm my enrage uptime super borked some games

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as u have to kite line or whatever

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or swap a lot

wet scarab
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In pve it’s around 90% usually

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But you don’t get kited in pve etc

sharp meteor
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yeah it kind of varies widely depending on how matchup plays out i feel

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hard to look at uptime in a vacuum

wet scarab
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I would measure it in a melee cleave matchup and go from there I think

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If you’re having trouble maintaining enrage in a context where it should be easy to keep it up then you can sort of adjust elsewhere

sharp meteor
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feels good to kite into some cleaves if possible

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static piercing etc and just walk way if they sent cc weirdly

nimble jasper
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playing into real players

mystic zodiac
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How’s fury compared to outlaw these days? Having trouble deciding between my ear and rogue

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War*

undone pumice
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rogue is immortal

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fury do more dmg consistantly ig

wet scarab
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Wish you could switch specs in arena fury feels a lot worse to me into rogues than arms

lean burrow
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Thanks guys

near delta
sharp meteor
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i was gonna say more dam but idk if it is

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outlaw is legit like 20x the cc though

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and extremely high dmg as well

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and more durable

steep inlet
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It’s different

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Both are good

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Fury pressure and ms is higher

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And easier to play

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By a mile

sharp meteor
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i remember always hearing that rogue was harder than havoc but i found it to be like 10x easier because u can't really ever die

mystic barn
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blessing in disguise that me without a trinket is not the focus target in solo shuffle, rather the random healer that cant heal

spice hornet
near delta
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Omg just saw the funniest shit in a solo shuffle

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I leaped and charged to this hpriest that was still in the starting room in nagrand

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He did the priest leap thing

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Bumped his head on the ceiling and fell back down

raw summit
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finally

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they get what they deserve

near delta
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It was hilarious

sharp meteor
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There's also a giant bell in the middle of bastion arena

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that DH can also fly into by mistake

wanton gulch
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Im coming over here from PvE and wondering about my trinkets

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I know medallion is a lock in but are there any good PVE trinkets that transfer over?

warped warren
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none

wanton gulch
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So im better with insignia of alacrity over soleahs?

warped warren
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yes

wanton gulch
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Also wowhead says mikanikos, icy says pelagos

warped warren
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micky

wanton gulch
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Is there a sort of warcraftlogs for PvP where I can see what the top Furys are running?

warped warren
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shows top 50 or w.e

wanton gulch
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this is perfect wow

full quiver
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Anyone else have an issue where Gladius ex is only showing resolve trinket for every part member lol

near delta
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Low CR is something. Played with this priest from Azralon who didn't purge two entire bops then I was like hey man you purge that and called me a noob and kicked haha

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Well he said NOOB

near delta
full quiver
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How fi

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Fix

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Lol

near delta
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Oh gladius Ex lol

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I don't use it

wanton gulch
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wait battle trance doesnt work with reckless abandon?

undone pumice
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not during reck

sharp meteor
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Signet reck also doesn't work with RA

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it's all so tiresome

wanton gulch
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so do ppl just run AM?

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Im in open world and the RA blow that charges to the target is nice

sharp meteor
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i have played some am into mirrors and it felt nice

wanton gulch
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ok last one

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what would you suggest I take? Ive never really pvped in my life, just got the honor version or gladiators medallion and upgraded it

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im not gonna be pushing rating just casual world content and arenas I guess

spice hornet
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Aegis

sharp meteor
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Aegis. Rest kind of suck.

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Fastid might have potential with some 1-shot/burst setup, MAYBE echoing could be good into some weird alternating spam cc matchup, devouring seems niche, resonator can work

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really though it's just kind of aegis

undone pumice
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i still see ppl use s2 maledickdick sometimes

spice hornet
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Devouring is so dumb lol

undone pumice
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and i get several types of cancer

spice hornet
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Needs to not be a channel or they need to buff it something

undone pumice
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remove all new trinkets tbh

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s2 maledict was already a shit idea

wheat jay
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Maledict was less cancer than grenade or the anti cc trinket xD

undone pumice
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yea

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rather have a maledict than resonator but

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ideally neither

sharp meteor
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I've seen a jungle or two still playing maledict.

undone pumice
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maledict was resident sleeper

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resonator gives u s1 maw pov

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gettinf bombed

spark dune
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I’ve been enjoying the arms spec but I’ve been seeing people say fury is better. Should I continue playing what I like or am I just gimping myself by not playing fury?

undone pumice
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u are probably gimping urself a little

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but play what u want

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just know arms is someehat

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fucking unplayable in 2s imo

spark dune
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Oooo ok gotcha

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Maybe I’ll give fury a go

near delta
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What comp are you playing? Arms is just as good for turbo and ret/warr.

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I have a lot more fun with fury though

spark dune
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Uhhhh no idea what comp I’m playing yet my buddies are still figuring out what they wanna do

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But I’m pretty certain we are doing 3’s

undone pumice
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arms works really well

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with hybrids

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kittycats, rets, enhance

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fury can probably fit in those too

spark dune
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One of my friends plays mage and the other plays Druid

near delta
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I would definitely try both and see which one you like playing more

undone pumice
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if ur not playing eith one of those i highly recommend trying fury

spark dune
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Ooo ok I’ll probably give fury a go when I get on after work. I’m new to pvp so I’m still trying to figure it all out haha

near delta
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Yeah fury is better with mage

undone pumice
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mage can offer a lot of peel to u

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and u can also offer peel to him

spark dune
#

I’ve been seeing a lot of necrolord on warriors. Is it better than kyrian?

elder wigeon
#

Yes

spark dune
#

Ooo ok my buddies were trying to convince me to swap but I enjoy necro a lot more

undone pumice
#

meta isnt too good for kyrian

#

most people will just

#

walk out of ur spear

elder wigeon
#

Not really a meta issue it’s a design issue and people having 2 years of practice bugging it

undone pumice
#

shadowlands out for 2 years???

spark dune
#

:DearGod:

#

Oh man

#

My emote didn’t work

elder wigeon
#

Like 18 months but you get the point

undone pumice
spark dune
#

So the best way to get my 4 piece bonus set is doing raids?

undone pumice
#

no

#

get 4 tier lsot conq pieces

#

i recommend shoulders and head and then whatever

elder wigeon
#

No it’s from walking up to the creation catalyst and converting pvp gear

undone pumice
#

then go to catalyst and conver them to tier

spark dune
#

Oooo ok

undone pumice
#

also get a crafted 262 speed ring

#

makes u FAEST

spark dune
#

Ok I’ll look into it ty for the advice

undone pumice
#

leggos are signet/deathmaker for fury and endurint blow for arms

spark dune
#

Also probably a dumb question but what’s the best way to get conquest points

spark dune
undone pumice
#

play arena/rbg

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u dont need dm

near delta
#

WMP is some of the most fun I've had this season. Just super hard to find a mage that plays not RMP or with a caster.

undone pumice
#

signet is also just as good

spark dune
#

Ok sick

#

Ty for the tips

nimble jasper
#

rmp is just infinitely a better comp

undone pumice
#

why dont we all reroll rmp then

near delta
#

Yup

nimble jasper
#

than wmp at least

undone pumice
#

because we want to preserve our maxes

nimble jasper
#

mage lock is easier

undone pumice
#

mage lock

nimble jasper
#

than rmp tbh

undone pumice
#

rmp

#

mageor brain damage

near delta
#

Yeah mages that are willing to run it are kinda scuffed in my experience lol

nimble jasper
#

or tourney players

#

both extremes

undone pumice
#

idk

#

do ppl play warr mage

#

at tourny

nimble jasper
#

no

near delta
#

Yup

nimble jasper
#

not this ssn

near delta
#

That bimodal distribution

undone pumice
#

why would u ever

nimble jasper
#

if you need a wmp playstyle now

undone pumice
#

have played warr mage

near delta
nimble jasper
#

you prob q outlaw rmp

undone pumice
#

yea just play

nimble jasper
#

yeah it’s one of sk gaming’a main comps

near delta
#

But Maro is always running it

undone pumice
#

saltwater rmp

nimble jasper
#

outlaw rmp now is just

#

similar damage profiles

#

with way more cc

near delta
#

The NA version is ww/mage

undone pumice
#

incredibly

#

incredibky

near delta
#

Yeah forreal

undone pumice
#

considering rollinf an outlaw

nimble jasper
#

its funny

undone pumice
#

already have bloodsail buccaneers rep

nimble jasper
#

esp when you q into fury rdruid in 2s

near delta
#

I've honestly been thinking about rolling a pirate

nimble jasper
#

then watch as they have to run away

#

as you sit on druid

#

and press bladeflurry

#

brrrr

undone pumice
#

i have all the shit i need

#

for my outlaw roleolay

#

bloodsail buccanneer title

nimble jasper
#

banner reck pop

#

bladeflurry evasion

undone pumice
#

good 1handers for pirate mog

nimble jasper
#

suddenly war’s running from me

undone pumice
#

tricornes

nimble jasper
#

on his own cds

near delta
#

Is there literally anyway to beat them

nimble jasper
#

kill healer

near delta
#

Other than then throwing across the entire game

undone pumice
#

if u are hittinf outlaw u are inting prob?

nimble jasper
#

you prob insta leave

near delta
#

Yup gotta go healer

nimble jasper
#

outlaw mw

raw summit
#

@undone pumice

near delta
#

Just sucks when it's rdruid

#

Or mw haha

undone pumice
#

as double dps arms

raw summit
#

outlaw mw

#

i faced once in s2

#

i wanted to die

#

since i was arm

undone pumice
#

it was an unironical

#

10 minute game

near delta
#

I got the gun axes from BFA

#

That'd look badass lol

undone pumice
#

somehow my cat kept me alive

nimble jasper
#

the best

#

is when you have their dps

#

at sub 10%

#

and the healer thinks he can freecast

hazy breach
#

hey if i buy a pvp item and craft it to tierpiece can i still upgrade the item lvl?

nimble jasper
#

but 8 yd range kick

#

locked

#

dies

hazy breach
#

ty

near delta
#

Np

nimble jasper
#

yeah that double fury team

#

i just w keyed

#

the non orc one

#

then cc the other guy on his entire reck

undone pumice
#

one ray

#

will be updater

#

and i will be here for it

nimble jasper
#

double pop

near delta
#

I think hpriest outlaw is doable

nimble jasper
#

rogue vanishes

mystic barn
#

🦀

nimble jasper
#

priest flies

near delta
#

Yeah I fucking know haha

nimble jasper
#

fury rdruid popping alot lately

#

@near delta only thing about gouge tho

#

it doesnt clear dots

#

so it actually breaks insta on dotted people

#

specs like dk or feral you can just play kleia with phial traits into them

#

and make both of you immune for 8 secs

wheat jay
#

Dk kleia?

#

Are you sure about that xD

raw summit
#

dk doesnt wanna bekyr

nimble jasper
#

no i mean play kleia into dks

undone pumice
#

aa

nimble jasper
#

tho sv hunter still cancer

undone pumice
#

true

#

fuckers do too much damage

mystic barn
nimble jasper
#

i said you can play it into them

mystic barn
#

no

#

EDITED

undone pumice
near delta
dry trail
#

crafted speed ring good ?

near delta
dry trail
#

😮

near delta
#

Yeah they're super good

mystic barn
sharp meteor
#

You can swap out for Duelist one eventually but I like the haste weight on fury as well as free socket and stuff that you can just buy for like 5k

dry trail
#

what's the name of that thing ?

sharp meteor
#

Quick for haste, Versatile for vers.

#

Sort by 262 rings or w/e. Look for speed augment.

#

Should be like 4000-8000g

near delta
dry trail
near delta
#

I have the conquest to trade out my quick oxxein ring for the cosmic one but the speed is too good

sharp meteor
#

For fury, anyways.

dry trail
#

put +5% speed gem ?

#

to pump more

undone pumice
undone pumice
#

and socket

#

yeah if u buy the wuick one i think go all in haste

#

enchant and socket haste

dry trail
#

im a quick boi now

#

if i could socket strandling also but no socket slots

#

and bliz fucked us with weekly vault socket instead of rep

nimble jasper
#

the ring is dirt cheap if you know a jc

dry trail
#

i am jewelcrafter

#

checked the total amount of mats it was cheaper to buy it ready at 10k

#

on draenor at least

near delta
#

Is feral/hpal in 2s the most damp annoying comp ever as fury or am I just playing it poorly?

sharp meteor
#

what's annoying about it for u

#

bop cucking ra/conq?

#

i played root break then am and just

#

pve damage to whatever i can

raw summit
#

thing is ive faced that

#

did 1mil dam vs 400k

#

and lost to a convoke killing my healer

dry trail
#

what's this "gladius" like addon bajheera is using shows enemy cooldowns and has elvui aesthetics anyone know ?

raw summit
#

gladiusex maybe

#

no harm asking him in chat next time hes live

#

or !addons in his chat

dry trail
#

ye

#

i like it a lot but im to lazy to switch from gladius

raw summit
#

i went sarena

#

and its good

near delta
#

If I connect feral thorns him

#

If I swap feral hpal sacs

#

And just that over and over again

#

Also clones every time I connect

#

Dude was triple dring ._.

sharp meteor
#

between reflect both storms pummel etc you should hopefully be able to exert enough pressure that they aren't generally able to clone you for free during your damage

wheat jay
#

It just Hurts my eyes xD

#

Granted, im using elvui and nothing about my ui is even close to Blizzard default ui

raw summit
wheat jay
#

Nah

#

Sarena is evil

#

Only gladius or gladiusex

elder wigeon
#

why

near delta
#

Finally running some necro arms with my new team. When do yall run d-stance vs bounding stride?

sharp meteor
#

I just played bounding stride every game but dstance probably better.

#

Just have to actually be super good about when you're in which stance because any prolonged period in dstance sets you behind

near delta
#

Yeah I played arms for like the first month of the season then went fury and never looked back lol

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, haven't queued main for almost a month but did initial push as Arms

#

playing Fury on alt has been super fun

elder wigeon
#

d-stance is just so bad lol

#

it's the main reason arms is so trash right now

jaunty furnace
#

Fury needs D stance also

sharp meteor
#

-20% dmg done is like bruh

#

dmg matters so much right now

jaunty furnace
#

This season is wack

#

And I see so many people raging about it

sharp meteor
#

everything is so lethal

#

which is what people wanted but to this degree is a bit much

#

idk im just setting up alt warrs because queues lately have been into literally 1-3 other teams

#

which depending on what's queuing can be fun or boring/annoying

lucid walrus
#

at this point there's scarce incentive not to take a break

#

meta feels bad + low participation

jaunty furnace
#

Yeah

#

And I don’t even think season 4 will help that

sharp meteor
#

i play a solo shuffle and all 4 dps have duelist gear

#

one of us dies from 90% in under a second

#

healer each round going like "jesus fuck"

jaunty furnace
#

There’s no counter play ether

#

You just get blown up

sharp meteor
#

oh there is generally

#

knife fight meta tho

elder wigeon
#

that is 100% passive and doesn't have any thought behind it

nimble jasper
#

but one missed global=dead often

sharp meteor
#

90-95% of the 1-bangs are avoidable, probably more

nimble jasper
#

its the rogue mage mirror feel

#

but

#

for everyone

sharp meteor
#

it's just fast and scary

nimble jasper
#

its kinda like how

#

rmx mirrors felt in s2

sharp meteor
#

everybody still getting used to the dam

nimble jasper
#

one missed pre=dead

#

so i guess i got used to it

#

ehh

#

you’d watch r1 rmp mirror and its literally just

#

one person misses a global

#

and someone dies

#

or has to trade trinket everything

#

and dies next setup

sharp meteor
#

had a game like a month ago and it was like hey what if we just tab warrior when sham gets rayed

#

and he just like died from full in a second

near delta
sharp meteor
#

last season was cringe 10 minute dampeners because retwarr and wps doesn't die

nimble jasper
#

the funny thing is

sharp meteor
#

probs why they jacked dam up

nimble jasper
#

some specs still hit like wet noodles

#

outside of cds

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
#

specs like outlaw it feels like another spec

#

when 5 roll is achieved

sharp meteor
#

"last game of the season baby who is ready for a ten minute retwarr" sike it was twelve minutes

#

idk what they can do now except more hp

nimble jasper
#

game just has

#

too many modifiers

#

and classes that dont do shit outside of cds

sharp meteor
#

blanket nerf cov/conduits/leggos by like half LMAO

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
#

ehh like the damage of say

#

monks

#

in their cd windows

#

vs outside

#

is pretty staggering

sharp meteor
#

i have had so many games randomly swing where im like hmm maybe damage here

#

and guy dies in a shear from full

nimble jasper
#

yeah not wrong

sharp meteor
#

reck proc is like

#

hey dead maybe?

nimble jasper
#

had a pirate game where just exploded a guy from full

#

cuz double bte crit

sharp meteor
#

look at me, i'm the ret pala now

nimble jasper
#

and double dispatch crit

#

mud just gibbing people

#

with a warbrginer charge with reck banner badge going

sharp meteor
#

yeah me for the past few weeks

#

just tear somebody in half in the opener every game

nimble jasper
#

feels like

#

fury is one of the specs people are unaware

#

how to respond to

near delta
sharp meteor
#

psure i am only playing this until it gets changes

nimble jasper
#

and unholy

sharp meteor
#

conq banner actually max aggro and just doing 15k dps opener

#

feels too good

nimble jasper
#

i see so many healers get caught

#

pants down

#

by unholy dam rn

sharp meteor
#

also fury feeling fine into rm for me hmm

#

i thought it'd feel more awk

nimble jasper
#

ngl

sharp meteor
#

cleaves are scary

nimble jasper
#

rmp mirror is like true definition

#

of a knifefight

sharp meteor
#

2sweat

nimble jasper
#

you watch them run

#

scared as shit

#

once their drs are over

#

"im gonna die im gonna die"

near delta
#

The unexpected burst from a reck proc can be super clutch vs rogue mage

nimble jasper
#

pirate into hunters is very telling they have no idea where damage comes from

#

as i get petsac

#

for doing nothing

near delta
#

I'm gearing up my outlaw just so I can figure out wtf they do

nimble jasper
#

well to simplify things

#

its mostly just alot of cc

near delta
#

The rotation feels bizarre

nimble jasper
#

with heavy sustained damage

#

opener isnt as scary as 1min in

#

when enduring brawler has stacked to 20

lucid walrus
#

keep s&d up --> ???

nimble jasper
#

yeah

#

and bte

#

altho bte autofires periodically with 4set

nimble jasper
#

broadsides

#

and ruthless precision

near delta
#

Pistol shot and bte are incredibly fun buttons to press

nimble jasper
#

true bearing aka the compass is usually

#

the best one

#

since it doubles your cdr passive

nimble jasper
worldly nymph
#

Hello guys

#

Can you help me up with a question no bias towards ur favorite. Between warrior Arms and Fury which one would you say would 1v1 any other class (alone) no healers or supports. Which one would u say would do better a good arms warriors player vs any other class or a good fury player vs another class

#

Which of the two has the most capability to sustain high damage and survive a fight against another player

lucid walrus
#

this really isn't your class if you wanna 1v1 but that seems slightly more of fury's thing

near delta
#

Def not something warrior is good at in general but 1000x better at arms

worldly nymph
#

Good answers to the healing that beings fury outweighs all the defensive that an arm would bring in a completely 1v1 fight

#

Max level

nimble jasper
#

either way you're choosing a terrible class for 1v1

#

lmfao

worldly nymph
#

Thing is I like warrior but I like playing solo , I mainly love doing battlegrounds and world pvp but I don't want/have a healer on my ass all the time I was looking up on fury

near delta
#

Yeah good 1v1 class is like ww

nimble jasper
#

good rogue or feral will clown you

worldly nymph
#

To see if it does it

nimble jasper
#

while scratching their butt

#

or monks yeah

#

you need to be able to reset

near delta
#

Ah yeah fury feels pretty decent doing random bgs

nimble jasper
#

to be good at 1v1s

lucid walrus
#

rogue, feral, ret etc would be much better

nimble jasper
#

rogue>feral>ww>ret imo

worldly nymph
#

And damage wise? Who outputs more damage fury or arms

near delta
#

Fury actually imo

nimble jasper
#

feral only better than ww if nelf i think

#

yeah fury

#

but both suck

near delta
#

Yup

worldly nymph
nimble jasper
#

warrior has never been

#

a solo class

worldly nymph
#

In wrath it was fine

nimble jasper
#

????

#

no

near delta
#

But you could def win a 1v1 vs a class without an immunity with reck

nimble jasper
#

hybrids shat on your life

sharp meteor
#

fury warr fine solo now

#

just play pend

nimble jasper
#

and no dont bring up mop warriors

#

1v3ing 1200 players

#

as multiglads

#

in random bgs

worldly nymph
lucid walrus
#

impending

sharp meteor
#

basically half health heal

nimble jasper
#

impending victory

#

just a fair warning

#

you wont beat any of the 4 listed specs

#

if they have hands

#

at a 1v1

sharp meteor
#

yeah but in bgs nobody has hands

#

just chug saltwater and bang people if they might be good

nimble jasper
#

true

sharp meteor
#

conq reck salt maybe zerk and u cut through anybody instantly

#

idk what ur mmr is nobody is living a RA reck with conq salt and serk

nimble jasper
#

@sharp meteor i did that on my rogue yesterday

sharp meteor
#

that's legit like 30k dps for 20+ seconds

nimble jasper
#

saltwater zerker

#

50k evis

worldly nymph
#

So arms still the top for arena , or fury got there with latest patch damage increase

nimble jasper
#

into 40k shadow

sharp meteor
#

liking fury a lot rn tho

nimble jasper
#

arms turbo still better

sharp meteor
#

u can play either

nimble jasper
#

than fury turbo

#

isnt it

sharp meteor
#

uhhh

#

idk i need to queue it more

elder wigeon
#

fury is just as good or arguably better than arms in every comp imho

sharp meteor
#

i just like the raw dam of fury

#

yeah it's pretty close

worldly nymph
#

Hummmm

sharp meteor
#

tempted to go necro on arms kyrian just feels hmmm

nimble jasper
#

but I mean if you're really fixated on 1v1s

#

I wouldnt play warrior

#

kinda requires a team

#

rogue/feral are the main 2 where you just goon somebody

sharp meteor
#

everything about warr is symbiotic

nimble jasper
#

and flag of ownership their corpse

worldly nymph
#

So main differences, arms more defensive, less damage, sharpened blade and Def stance, fury high sustained damage, self heals , no defensives?

sharp meteor
#

just a weird class to be a lone wolf on

#

fury defensives are just "softer" i guess u could say

nimble jasper
#

arms needs a pocket healer

sharp meteor
#

parry stops cleave dam into you

nimble jasper
#

or 4 if you're bajheera

sharp meteor
#

whereas enraged regen u can die instantly though as it's just so much lighter of a cd

#

imo play necro fury maybe venth and u will have a fun time

nimble jasper
#

ER a nice button

#

till you get disarmed on it

sharp meteor
#

yea but then they can't disarm conq/reck potentially so that can be fine

elder wigeon
#

ER should just heal 50% max health over the duration honestly and not increase bt heals

sharp meteor
#

u still get dr and it usable while stunned

nimble jasper
#

true

#

until you q into comps

sharp meteor
#

that'd b nice

nimble jasper
#

with 2+ disarms

#

aaaaaa

sharp meteor
#

hmm dont see that too often

nimble jasper
#

yeah

#

that mostly only happens

#

with mw comps

sharp meteor
#

turb into sauls enh/ww/mw was

#

not very fun when doom was meta

nimble jasper
#

i memba someone malding

#

about bfa wwdk with mw

#

either get disarmed

#

or gripped

sharp meteor
#

mhm

#

memba when fists stunned

#

and para was 15s cd

nimble jasper
#

ngl

near delta