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skill issue
?
outlaw dmg isn't like unreal but it can't die and has insane utility
Fury ish
nah
But doesnt die
30yd blind kinda nuts
not even close
let alone 90sec cd
Outlul doesnt really go for re's
Pirates are way out of control
Yarr bitches
fury has much more dmg, way squishier, doesn't even have 1/10th of the cc
being stealth in the opener is still strong
cr swashbucklers staying in combat for a full minute with 7sec kidney + 100k hp
Fury but every Rampage reduces CD of everything in spellbook

really tempted to roll an outlul after u said swashbucklers
Booty bandit
yep
i swear as long as you have a pulse you can't lose as outlaw RMP
that's all my friends & i refer to em as
can't a rogue play with anyone too
you dont go for re yes
no
unless you are about to die
what’s more skilled fury or outlaw
altho you can briefly re to ambush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY impossible to lose with this playing on your outlaw
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you cant play with warrior i think
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen outlaw ret hpriest
to proc conduit
outlaw is like the best spec in the game rn i swear to god
theres honestly 2 ways to lose as outlaw to other melee in 2s
your healer feeds
or
you d/c
for some reason people don want to abuse outlaw in 3s
on wings you can do a double kidney hoj go
I’m waiting to see more fury unholy kyrian hpriest bombing enemy team
mage
only trill does
feral too ig
yeah rogue mage is at least
mage and that's probably almost it
2 tiers above every other rogue double dps
i saw sub/sp and sin/sp played when sp was still crazy in s2
rogue hunter SLIGHTLY works
but you are very time limited
before you eventually die
Chun is also starting to play outlaw, whaazz also playing it
a good rogue mage
I like being up in their face tho
Rogue very pussy
chun will try anything. props for that
Ye not suprising whaazz can play it
bro tried brewmaster last seas
means that we can expect outlaw nerfs in 9.3.5
clash is a hilarious button
also weird thing about outlaw is just
the damage just comes out
of left field
at least for burst
that it has a fucking gun
but u cant mog it
Ikr so dumb
same with dragon roar
are rogues fully cd reliant
if you don't one shot
sub is
for the next 30-40s
Are you out of dam
is arms dbts conduit 20 seconds
idk what is arms?
rogue plays around drs
to do damage
except outlaw kinda
always has damage
rofl
also at low mmr
refilling
he do what he want
you can catch alot of bad healers off guard
rerolling
since your kick is
cause a pirate is free
8 yd range
yarrre
Isn't it more?
"oh i can top my guy safely from here"
jk
kicked
gouge
cheapshotted
dps dead
Once we can tmog white items
Bloodsail Admiral title
Full bloodsail tmog
bloodsail gang gang
Yarr
i wanna try warr + rogue at some point
the only downside to gouge
Bet
Bloodsail Admiral Paychpatient
deez
Dumb name
like technically if youre bigbrained enough
you can turn your camera way
before he gouges
to avoid it
technically if ur big brain enkugh
u can turn ur camera at the disarmer during dbts
@undone pumice if u level rog i tank on my dh 
rogue is lvl 10
psure there was an outlaw fury on eu
a few weeks ago
it was somewhat a thing in legion
big
i have a clip of karg & artji queuing into outlaw/arms last seas
we brinf back tbc cleave
i refuse to queue with wws and hunters
og comp is literally warr + rogue no?
i mean
OGOGOG

arms dh in legion
was big fun ngl
when you just paintrain buffed
his fel barrage
Sounds like a hard zerg comp
dh + fury 2s is still litty
You ww is in a rough spot when Trill and Chun are the top rogues on the ladder
Nah mate
as war
it is
we'd instant global shams 100-0
fuk u
You n healer do ur thing but im not playing demon comps like that
swap earthshield, instant see warrior leap over and bolt
as dh meta leaps on top

demon comp is me qccepting first person to sign up in lfg
mostly ends up being dhs
we just go and ravage some1
psure on eu
there was a sub ww team
at r1
keefers necro ww+venthyr crit lego sub
iove when i play with a ww
the french are wild tbh
and he just does negative dmg
legit watch them just
half cheapshot a guy
and unload full burst
kill any leather/clothie 100-0
@Troma
@undone pumice https://www.twitch.tv/howtonio/clip/LivelyFlaccidBubbleteaCharlieBitMe-zfUdQc9qaCH49H2a?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
or this
sub enh
actual canonnical hate crime
does depths of insanity also increase the reckless from 4pc procs?
no
damn 😦
wtf is that@elder wigeon
live slug reaction
my face queuing into mlx for the 5th time
my face queuing

tbf
2k fire mages
are insanely shit
and you still have to severely outplay to not die to them in rm
Why does it tak 10 yrs to get an alt up and running
i do appreciate the fact that all the legos i rpeviously unlocked on main are available on alt tho
guys, pvp kyrian arms warr, what is the stat priority iyo
im like 10% haste and rest i go with crit
ik vers is prio, but after vers is my question 😄
some haste some crit idk
probably like 12-15 haste then either go more haste or branch into crit
full haste feels nice, full crit feels bad, a mix feels nice
OH MY LORD
thanks teapot
i hope i make every hunter in the 2v2 bracket seethe and cope
@sharp meteor How do you unlock the 239 conduits from vendor? i thought if you completed campaign it let you get em if your main already had the rep
think rep is char bound
xdeeee
not me home-brewing a fighter and ripping off 5 warrior spells
What is this
Because they are warrior inspired abilities
I thought you guys would maybe be interested
Sorry if I'm wrong 😄
OOH
THIS IS PVP
IM RETARDED SORRY
🙃
JESUS CHRIST
Yah, it's poetic justice
makes me smile when i think of it
https://app.squadov.gg/share/NondeaflySpoutedCarmela if anyone wanted to see a hunter rage log
quite simple
why do u have like
70 insignias
on the right
how do ueven have so many binds with fury wtf
wtf

yea that's some meshuggah
I have slam on my bar just cause it irks me if I have empty space
ah nah fuck that noise I don't have it bound
onslaught is 10x better than slam as fury
Where's Shield Block?
should be able to use a 2h and a shield
yea
What's that Arena addon called anyways
I mean there should be a lot more fury in prot
I see xar uses it
true
Sarena
dos today?
Im not taking u to a 21
there's 3 presets for sarena
Tbh
I'm using the xaryu preset and I modified it to my liking
phil bully
brb getting 3kio
i do big pumper dmg
What's ur average overall
Doing the big deeps
Anyone have any tips in 2s vs frost mage as fury? They seem to always give me trouble....tons of damage, i cant stick on them to well...i try to kite and LoS during deathborne but they just stay on me
cool thanks...and is the play to try and wait out deathborne by LoS usually? unlesse CCing him
Double time warbringer and blood rage
Generally you just want to gas pedal him even if he has deathborne up
Our pressure is just too much so he'll end up polying you or ice blocking on his cds
ahh ok cool ty ill give this a shot next time
Gl! You'll know you're doing it right if they just die if they don't peel you. Lol
Does the empowered victory rush conduit apply to impending victory too?
ye
Pog
DH fury has to be so much scary pressure
I main DH there's nothing better than just hanging on kids there's so much damage
best is mud's setup with double time warbringer in 2s i think and ocasional pick up of blood rage
can someone explain to me why rogues have evasion every time I try to hit them
this is fucking bullshit
outlaw rogue new doomed matchup or what
outlaw is fucked u never win
also hits into evasion reduce its cd further
evasion = off
also all ur buttons get disarmed kidneyed vanished evasioned blinded gouged etc
u never kill outlaw unless they're blackout drunk unironically
rly?
my only losses on my alt warr were to outlaws i think
just actually can't do anything
didnt play since season 1
now I come back
and see holy priests walking up to me and bursting for 50k damage
wtf is happening
people gotta die
also i love fury i kill most hunters in opener
do you give up enduring rage for warbringer?
enduring is nice for throughput and more enrage uptime, warbringer nice for burst and maintaining uptime on target by pinning them down
something like bloodrage for root break then warbringer and slaughterhouse feels nice although not playing with enduring can feel weird as times as it gets rid of that nice little buffer
have to remove that it's like rampage>dump
I almost never run enduring rage personally
also i tried to reassure somebody on the forums that there aren't many former high mmr players that'll snap you in half in the opener floating around low mmr then i queue into him a few hours later and snap him in half in the opener heck
But yeah it makes things feel a lot more smooth
Classic
it's uhhh it feels really good in terms of like raw enrage uptime and therefore rage gen
i need to compare bloodrage with that actually
in terms of like output
because the off global short cd root break itself is great but so is the rage
Just check enrage uptime in details in games with or without the talent. If you’re floating under 70% uptime then you should use the talent imo
You don’t have it in pve so it can feel overkill if you’re used to maintaining enrage uptime in a pve context
hmm my enrage uptime super borked some games
as u have to kite line or whatever
or swap a lot
yeah it kind of varies widely depending on how matchup plays out i feel
hard to look at uptime in a vacuum
I would measure it in a melee cleave matchup and go from there I think
If you’re having trouble maintaining enrage in a context where it should be easy to keep it up then you can sort of adjust elsewhere
feels good to kite into some cleaves if possible
static piercing etc and just walk way if they sent cc weirdly
people act like they cant get better
playing into real players
How’s fury compared to outlaw these days? Having trouble deciding between my ear and rogue
War*
Wish you could switch specs in arena fury feels a lot worse to me into rogues than arms
Thanks guys
I'm complete garbage and just destroyed saiiphz in 2s. Those games are winnable.
fury is
i was gonna say more dam but idk if it is
outlaw is legit like 20x the cc though
and extremely high dmg as well
and more durable
It’s different
Both are good
Fury pressure and ms is higher
And easier to play
By a mile
i remember always hearing that rogue was harder than havoc but i found it to be like 10x easier because u can't really ever die
blessing in disguise that me without a trinket is not the focus target in solo shuffle, rather the random healer that cant heal

Omg just saw the funniest shit in a solo shuffle
I leaped and charged to this hpriest that was still in the starting room in nagrand
He did the priest leap thing
Bumped his head on the ceiling and fell back down
It was hilarious
Happens when they hug pillars sometimes
There's also a giant bell in the middle of bastion arena
that DH can also fly into by mistake
Im coming over here from PvE and wondering about my trinkets
I know medallion is a lock in but are there any good PVE trinkets that transfer over?
none
So im better with insignia of alacrity over soleahs?
yes
Also wowhead says mikanikos, icy says pelagos
micky
Is there a sort of warcraftlogs for PvP where I can see what the top Furys are running?
this is perfect wow
Anyone else have an issue where Gladius ex is only showing resolve trinket for every part member lol
Low CR is something. Played with this priest from Azralon who didn't purge two entire bops then I was like hey man you purge that and called me a noob and kicked haha
Well he said NOOB
Yeah I've had that occasionally
wait battle trance doesnt work with reckless abandon?
not during reck
so do ppl just run AM?
Im in open world and the RA blow that charges to the target is nice
nope, 90% of the time it's ra
i have played some am into mirrors and it felt nice
ok last one
what would you suggest I take? Ive never really pvped in my life, just got the honor version or gladiators medallion and upgraded it
im not gonna be pushing rating just casual world content and arenas I guess
Aegis
Aegis. Rest kind of suck.
Fastid might have potential with some 1-shot/burst setup, MAYBE echoing could be good into some weird alternating spam cc matchup, devouring seems niche, resonator can work
really though it's just kind of aegis
i still see ppl use s2 maledickdick sometimes
Devouring is so dumb lol
and i get several types of cancer
Needs to not be a channel or they need to buff it something
Maledict was less cancer than grenade or the anti cc trinket xD
Nah, can soak resonator at least.
I've seen a jungle or two still playing maledict.
I’ve been enjoying the arms spec but I’ve been seeing people say fury is better. Should I continue playing what I like or am I just gimping myself by not playing fury?
u are probably gimping urself a little
but play what u want
just know arms is someehat
fucking unplayable in 2s imo
What comp are you playing? Arms is just as good for turbo and ret/warr.
I have a lot more fun with fury though
Uhhhh no idea what comp I’m playing yet my buddies are still figuring out what they wanna do
But I’m pretty certain we are doing 3’s
arms works really well
with hybrids
kittycats, rets, enhance
fury can probably fit in those too
One of my friends plays mage and the other plays Druid
I would definitely try both and see which one you like playing more
if ur not playing eith one of those i highly recommend trying fury
Ooo ok I’ll probably give fury a go when I get on after work. I’m new to pvp so I’m still trying to figure it all out haha
Yeah fury is better with mage
I’ve been seeing a lot of necrolord on warriors. Is it better than kyrian?
Yes
Ooo ok my buddies were trying to convince me to swap but I enjoy necro a lot more
Not really a meta issue it’s a design issue and people having 2 years of practice bugging it
Like 18 months but you get the point
when the meta is bugging out, the meta doesnt favor it
So the best way to get my 4 piece bonus set is doing raids?
No it’s from walking up to the creation catalyst and converting pvp gear
then go to catalyst and conver them to tier
Oooo ok
Ok I’ll look into it ty for the advice
leggos are signet/deathmaker for fury and endurint blow for arms
Also probably a dumb question but what’s the best way to get conquest points
Yeah I got signet just gotta get the other one
WMP is some of the most fun I've had this season. Just super hard to find a mage that plays not RMP or with a caster.
signet is also just as good
cuz why bother tbh
rmp is just infinitely a better comp

why dont we all reroll rmp then
Yup
than wmp at least
mage lock is easier
mage lock
than rmp tbh
Yeah mages that are willing to run it are kinda scuffed in my experience lol
no
Yup
not this ssn
That bimodal distribution
why would u ever
if you need a wmp playstyle now
have played warr mage
It's been a pretty popular comp in europe
you prob q outlaw rmp
yea just play
yeah it’s one of sk gaming’a main comps
But Maro is always running it
saltwater rmp
The NA version is ww/mage
Yeah forreal
considering rollinf an outlaw
its funny
already have bloodsail buccaneers rep
esp when you q into fury rdruid in 2s
I've honestly been thinking about rolling a pirate
then watch as they have to run away
as you sit on druid
and press bladeflurry
brrrr
good 1handers for pirate mog
suddenly war’s running from me
tricornes
on his own cds
Is there literally anyway to beat them
kill healer
Other than then throwing across the entire game
if u are hittinf outlaw u are inting prob?
you prob insta leave
Yup gotta go healer
outlaw mw
@undone pumice
somehow my cat kept me alive
the best
is when you have their dps
at sub 10%
and the healer thinks he can freecast
hey if i buy a pvp item and craft it to tierpiece can i still upgrade the item lvl?
Yes
ty
Np
yeah that double fury team
i just w keyed
the non orc one
then cc the other guy on his entire reck
double pop
I think hpriest outlaw is doable
rogue vanishes
🦀
priest flies
Yeah I fucking know haha
fury rdruid popping alot lately
@near delta only thing about gouge tho
it doesnt clear dots
so it actually breaks insta on dotted people
specs like dk or feral you can just play kleia with phial traits into them
and make both of you immune for 8 secs
dk doesnt wanna bekyr
no i mean play kleia into dks
aa
tho sv hunter still cancer
who tf plays kleia dk let alone kyrian dk

Gotta take it slow for our DK friend
crafted speed ring good ?
Arguably BiS
😮
Yeah they're super good
HE EDITED IT
Yes.
You can swap out for Duelist one eventually but I like the haste weight on fury as well as free socket and stuff that you can just buy for like 5k
what's the name of that thing ?
Quick for haste, Versatile for vers.
Sort by 262 rings or w/e. Look for speed augment.
Should be like 4000-8000g
Mhm
what u suugest quick or versa ?
I have the conquest to trade out my quick oxxein ring for the cosmic one but the speed is too good
I just went with haste.
For fury, anyways.
Quick Oxxein Ring
Versatile Solenium Ring
enchant with haste/vers/speed
ty bought the quick one
and socket
yeah if u buy the wuick one i think go all in haste
enchant and socket haste
im a quick boi now
if i could socket strandling also but no socket slots
and bliz fucked us with weekly vault socket instead of rep
the ring is dirt cheap if you know a jc
i am jewelcrafter
checked the total amount of mats it was cheaper to buy it ready at 10k
on draenor at least
Is feral/hpal in 2s the most damp annoying comp ever as fury or am I just playing it poorly?
what's annoying about it for u
bop cucking ra/conq?
i played root break then am and just
pve damage to whatever i can
thing is ive faced that
did 1mil dam vs 400k
and lost to a convoke killing my healer

what's this "gladius" like addon bajheera is using shows enemy cooldowns and has elvui aesthetics anyone know ?
gladiusex maybe
no harm asking him in chat next time hes live
or !addons in his chat
They just spam rep on my healer and do crazy damm and whenever I have damage hpal freedoms away
If I connect feral thorns him
If I swap feral hpal sacs
And just that over and over again
Also clones every time I connect
Dude was triple dring ._.
between reflect both storms pummel etc you should hopefully be able to exert enough pressure that they aren't generally able to clone you for free during your damage
I can't use it
It just Hurts my eyes xD
Granted, im using elvui and nothing about my ui is even close to Blizzard default ui
ye same
sarena xar setting looks like elvui
why
Finally running some necro arms with my new team. When do yall run d-stance vs bounding stride?
I just played bounding stride every game but dstance probably better.
Just have to actually be super good about when you're in which stance because any prolonged period in dstance sets you behind
Yeah I played arms for like the first month of the season then went fury and never looked back lol
Yeah, haven't queued main for almost a month but did initial push as Arms
playing Fury on alt has been super fun
everything is so lethal
which is what people wanted but to this degree is a bit much
idk im just setting up alt warrs because queues lately have been into literally 1-3 other teams
which depending on what's queuing can be fun or boring/annoying
at this point there's scarce incentive not to take a break
meta feels bad + low participation
i play a solo shuffle and all 4 dps have duelist gear
one of us dies from 90% in under a second
healer each round going like "jesus fuck"
fury has a better d-stance
that is 100% passive and doesn't have any thought behind it
there is counterplay
but one missed global=dead often
90-95% of the 1-bangs are avoidable, probably more
it's just fast and scary
everybody still getting used to the dam
one missed pre=dead
so i guess i got used to it
ehh
you’d watch r1 rmp mirror and its literally just
one person misses a global
and someone dies
or has to trade trinket everything
and dies next setup
had a game like a month ago and it was like hey what if we just tab warrior when sham gets rayed
and he just like died from full in a second
It's so funny how damage seemed out of control last season then this
last season was cringe 10 minute dampeners because retwarr and wps doesn't die
the funny thing is
probs why they jacked dam up
"last game of the season baby who is ready for a ten minute retwarr" sike it was twelve minutes
idk what they can do now except more hp
blanket nerf cov/conduits/leggos by like half LMAO
idk about that
ehh like the damage of say
monks
in their cd windows
vs outside
is pretty staggering
i have had so many games randomly swing where im like hmm maybe damage here
and guy dies in a shear from full
yeah not wrong
look at me, i'm the ret pala now
and double dispatch crit
mud just gibbing people
with a warbrginer charge with reck banner badge going
Yeah it got way better by the end of it
psure i am only playing this until it gets changes
and unholy
ngl
cleaves are scary
2sweat
you watch them run
scared as shit
once their drs are over
"im gonna die im gonna die"
The unexpected burst from a reck proc can be super clutch vs rogue mage
pirate into hunters is very telling they have no idea where damage comes from
as i get petsac
for doing nothing
I'm gearing up my outlaw just so I can figure out wtf they do
The rotation feels bizarre
with heavy sustained damage
opener isnt as scary as 1min in
when enduring brawler has stacked to 20
keep s&d up --> ???
most dangerous rolls to get cranked by are prob
broadsides
and ruthless precision
Pistol shot and bte are incredibly fun buttons to press
true bearing aka the compass is usually
the best one
since it doubles your cdr passive
they are esp if you play greenskins or blunderbuss
Hello guys
Can you help me up with a question no bias towards ur favorite. Between warrior Arms and Fury which one would you say would 1v1 any other class (alone) no healers or supports. Which one would u say would do better a good arms warriors player vs any other class or a good fury player vs another class
Which of the two has the most capability to sustain high damage and survive a fight against another player
this really isn't your class if you wanna 1v1 but that seems slightly more of fury's thing
Fury for sure. It has way more sustain than Arms with battle trance, impending victory, and blood thirst
Def not something warrior is good at in general but 1000x better at arms
Good answers to the healing that beings fury outweighs all the defensive that an arm would bring in a completely 1v1 fight
Max level
warrior is trash at 1v1s but fury is slightly better
either way you're choosing a terrible class for 1v1
lmfao
Thing is I like warrior but I like playing solo , I mainly love doing battlegrounds and world pvp but I don't want/have a healer on my ass all the time I was looking up on fury
Yeah good 1v1 class is like ww
good rogue or feral will clown you
To see if it does it
Ah yeah fury feels pretty decent doing random bgs
to be good at 1v1s
rogue, feral, ret etc would be much better
rogue>feral>ww>ret imo
And damage wise? Who outputs more damage fury or arms
Fury actually imo
Yup
🥲🥲
In wrath it was fine
But you could def win a 1v1 vs a class without an immunity with reck
hybrids shat on your life
and no dont bring up mop warriors
1v3ing 1200 players
as multiglads
in random bgs
Pend?
impending
basically half health heal
impending victory
just a fair warning
you wont beat any of the 4 listed specs
if they have hands
at a 1v1
yeah but in bgs nobody has hands
just chug saltwater and bang people if they might be good
conq reck salt maybe zerk and u cut through anybody instantly
idk what ur mmr is nobody is living a RA reck with conq salt and serk
@sharp meteor i did that on my rogue yesterday
that's legit like 30k dps for 20+ seconds
So arms still the top for arena , or fury got there with latest patch damage increase
into 40k shadow
they both good
liking fury a lot rn tho
arms turbo still better
u can play either
fury is just as good or arguably better than arms in every comp imho
Hummmm
tempted to go necro on arms kyrian just feels hmmm
but I mean if you're really fixated on 1v1s
I wouldnt play warrior
kinda requires a team
rogue/feral are the main 2 where you just goon somebody
everything about warr is symbiotic
and flag of ownership their corpse
So main differences, arms more defensive, less damage, sharpened blade and Def stance, fury high sustained damage, self heals , no defensives?
just a weird class to be a lone wolf on
fury defensives are just "softer" i guess u could say
arms needs a pocket healer
parry stops cleave dam into you
or 4 if you're bajheera
whereas enraged regen u can die instantly though as it's just so much lighter of a cd
imo play necro fury maybe venth and u will have a fun time
yea but then they can't disarm conq/reck potentially so that can be fine
ER should just heal 50% max health over the duration honestly and not increase bt heals
u still get dr and it usable while stunned
that'd b nice
hmm dont see that too often
ngl
MW are actually the worst





