pvp

[elder wigeon]

herbs can drop prog essentia

[undone pumice]

mining cant

?

[elder wigeon]

it can

[lucid walrus]

point is you just want a lot

[elder wigeon]

but you have nodes/h is how you get prog essentia

[lucid walrus]

get a spare pair of gloves for gathering

[undone pumice]

idk

[lucid walrus]

since u prob have str enchanted on ur main gloves

[undone pumice]

@lucid walrus my main gloves have gathering lmao

[lucid walrus]

L

[elder wigeon]

L + ratio

[undone pumice]

how will i

persist without engineering

[lucid walrus]

i do it just fine

[undone pumice]

how will i survive without infinite goblin gliders and nitro boosts

[elder wigeon]

farm on a druid

druid is beyond broken for farming

[undone pumice]

mm gotta lvl my dudu too

aaaaa

gotta level gotta level gotta level

levelling two wheelchair classes was a bad decision

warrior warrior enha

zero utility

rogues have some pickpocket moneyfarms, druid has insane gathering

[ember totem]

Hey guys, is the crafted versa ring worth getting? Cheers

[undone pumice]

yes

[ember totem]

Cool, is there any direct stats I should check out? Movement speed one?

Secondary stat*

[raw summit]

That's tertiary

But get a movespeed Ring

[ember totem]

Alright whats it called exactly?

Ah you craft the ring with the reagent right?

[spice hornet]

9.2.5 May 31st?

[sharp meteor]

god i wish

[elder wigeon]

that'd make this season the shortest ever

[spice hornet]

no season ending

later

[elder wigeon]

is there gonna be a 9.3 then?

[sharp meteor]

Oh they already said season isn't ending with cross faction

So orc rmp gonna be like one third of all r1 slots

[spice hornet]

orc hpriest with rez leggo

[elder wigeon]

I'm sick of orc I'm sick of orc

[sharp meteor]

i setup an alt warr that's vulpera and my healer said he'd only queue with me if i emote spammed every game and linked him the whispers but nobody is whispering me hmm

[sharp meteor]

same same

[ember totem]

@elder wigeon same

[sharp meteor]

made female panda warr and i love the animations for fury SO much

nothing feels janky or unfinished, it just flows so nicely

[frank knoll]

I’m honestly a whisperer when I win and the person I beat was really annoying

[elder wigeon]

I really like oldschool orc animations

[sharp meteor]

yeah current femorc is fucked up

[lucid walrus]

it's even better on arms imo

[sharp meteor]

i had the new weeb animations

[frank knoll]

Trash talk is okay, just like in sports
WoW players get so upset

[elder wigeon]

depends on the trash talk

[sharp meteor]

i want my big 2hspcial meaty overhead swing for mortal strike god damn it

tiny baby swing is cringe

[elder wigeon]

wow trash talk tends to be a lot more personal

[spice hornet]

same in 2s

[frank knoll]

I played football and was an Offensive lineman

[ember totem]

@elder wigeon tauren too lol

[lucid walrus]

wish diff races had unique animations still

[undone pumice]

is there any race that still has good overhead bonk with ms?@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

the generic animations are fucking soulless

[frank knoll]

That’s all you do on the line is talk shit all day lol

[undone pumice]

undead?

[sharp meteor]

no they all do the cringe spin

[lucid walrus]

tauren has it for slam but not MS i think

[sharp meteor]

it fucking sucks

[undone pumice]

wtf

only slam bonk?

[ember totem]

@undone pumice undead rocks

[sharp meteor]

slam and hamstring = 2h special

[lucid walrus]

unless i'm wrong

[frank knoll]

Also I like Tauren animations

[elder wigeon]

I like all of the animations with ripper

[lucid walrus]

wish u could just glyph animations tbh

[undone pumice]

true

[elder wigeon]

the weapon removes all of the effects

[undone pumice]

what

[lucid walrus]

that's actually really cool

[elder wigeon]

yup

i can record it real quick 1 sec

[lucid walrus]

so the blue streak with mortal etc etc?

[undone pumice]

what effects tho

[lucid walrus]

ya i'd love to see

[elder wigeon]

the colored streaks

[undone pumice]

ah

[sharp meteor]

setting up panda warr next this looks too sick not to play

[undone pumice]

wtf thats bussin

[sharp meteor]

burnt on orc man

[lucid walrus]

i've prolly seen it on a mud stream b4

[lucid walrus]

put a nazjatar sword on if/when you go arms

[sharp meteor]

wait what

[lucid walrus]

looks so good

[elder wigeon]

yup I'll upload a recording in a sec

[undone pumice]

i wanna set up an undead

[sharp meteor]

pwn pwn

[spice hornet]

i was panda male on alt

could not handle

having panda incap was sick tho

[undone pumice]

panda walk anim

is the only doenside

[spice hornet]

too goofy

[undone pumice]

they walk like they released a solid into their pants

[frank knoll]

Human animations the worst

[undone pumice]

and the hole for their tail

can sometimes

not look like a tail

[frank knoll]

Also human WW monks sound effects
Like GD bro stfu

[undone pumice]

draenei warr combat sound effects

HIIIIYAHAHAYAHAHYA

stfu hoe

[frank knoll]

Human monks sound like they’re laying pipe during FoF

[frank knoll]

I mean yeah don’t say anything psychotic

[mystic barn]

Resune is rude to me every day

[undone pumice]

u are rude to me every day

[sharp meteor]

u deserve it

[near delta]

Yeah most trash talk I hear is like "Go kill yourself" or "Good job retard"

Or "Go play in traffic"

Wait no that's discord convo

[undone pumice]

@Bruin

[near delta]

@nimble jasper "High XP" 1870

[sharp meteor]

🪦

[near delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[mystic barn]

i do not

[lean burrow]

if I level and play all classes

would that help me become good?

[undone pumice]

sure

[lean burrow]

I wanna be gladiator

[undone pumice]

itll help you understand what classes do

[lucid walrus]

if you dunno what other classes do it'd help

[undone pumice]

which is one of the most important things

[lucid walrus]

whaazz is one of the best multiclassers out rn and his stream headers usually entail "playing alts = best way to improve"

[sharp meteor]

nah just focus on one class and ideally one spec/comp

[undone pumice]

you pick

one main class

[sharp meteor]

nah dont spread yourself too thing

i play so many things and it has made me worse

[undone pumice]

you play that

[sharp meteor]

you can know how a spec works but you can also just play your spec/comp and figure shit out as you go

[lucid walrus]

yea have a clear main and just play the others when you're burnt i'd say

[sharp meteor]

if you die to sepsis just spend 5 minutes figuring out sepsis/vendetta and rogue leggos etc

you int a bunch of games but that' sfine

[undone pumice]

just need to figure out whats fucking you over

[lean burrow]

sepsis is that dot that ticks for quarter hp while rogue is already vanished?

[undone pumice]

sepsis is the nf nuclear dot

yea

[sharp meteor]

ya and how u as a team deal with it as efficiently as possible

[undone pumice]

yea

[sharp meteor]

me trinket aegis wall the bomb

me trinket phial wall opener

etc

[undone pumice]

like u want to use as little as possible to stop the most possible

[sharp meteor]

avoid overlap = king

[undone pumice]

like partner trinket wall + my rally = ez

instead of partner wall, healer wall, healer and partner trinket, my rally

[lucid walrus]

overlaps r preferable to not trading at all but ideally neither happens

[lean burrow]

you speak the language of gods

alright, thanks, gotta play other classes since they seem fun

[lucid walrus]

teapot's higher xp than i'll likely ever be so pay his words more mind tbh

[sharp meteor]

yeah better to overuse and die 30, 60 or 90 seconds later

than just die opener

[mystic barn]

"ok i parry"
"YOU ARE SACCE NOW"

[sharp meteor]

you try to identify what they're doing and wwho'll trade what

it's very hard right now because dmg all over the place

[lucid walrus]

sac + aegis

[lean burrow]

but if enemies press all their cds, shouldn't I press all my defensives?

[sharp meteor]

i trinket wall bm impending bloodthirst heal myself for like 120k and still almost get 1-shot

then my healer rays me and we beat the shit out of the enemy disc through all his cds

[undone pumice]

its not needed depending on enemy classes

[lucid walrus]

not always

[sharp meteor]

this was in the first 30 seconds of a 2550ish game

it is fucking INTENSE

and figuring out damage is quite hard

[lean burrow]

oh I get it, like if it's ret then I can just run away?

[sharp meteor]

yeah ret u can hop away from just don't los healer etc

just bouncing away CAN be fine

[lucid walrus]

ret likely catches up to you eventually. you really can't afford to greed when he connects

[undone pumice]

if its like assa and its fucking scary i would press muktiple cds sometimes

[lean burrow]

tho my team never runs and I jump back to intervene and save them

[lucid walrus]

a moment that made trading really click for me came in s1. i intervene my buddy during wings and vene's still 6sec

i live maybe a second after pressing the button and proceed to get yelled at for not walling alongside it. spent the rest of that session doing it during enemy cleaves' goes and felt much better

[sharp meteor]

yeah arena is kind of this game of cd trading

[lucid walrus]

ideally you or your team has a coordinated response for their goes ahead of time. it's very flowcharty

[sharp meteor]

the higher you go the better people are about it

around 2k is where everybody does good dam

but better players cover/peel it better

there's like a wall where the mega aggro players hit because they just send dam super hard then get cc'd on it for free

[lean burrow]

also about cc: if I want to survive enemies' burst, I shouldn't cc + press defensives right?

[lucid walrus]

depends

[sharp meteor]

it's like u usually wanna cycle through cc and/or defensives

[undone pumice]

i would cc first

[sharp meteor]

example is enemy warr warbreakers you without stunning, so you bolt him, then disarm as bolt is ending and he doesn't get any value off his warbreaker

[undone pumice]

if they trinket i consider kiting or pressing defensives

@lucid walrus ur not wrong

[lean burrow]

that's really good example, thanks

[lucid walrus]

it's just being put more succinctly

don't wanna overload

[lean burrow]

but then where do I press parry?

[sharp meteor]

as a "stop" to melee physical damage

[lucid walrus]

often you can find room to match similar cd defensives w/ similar impact offensives. e.g. warbreaker cd is 45, disarm is also 45

[lean burrow]

e.g. I kited/ccd during their go, but I still have parry

[undone pumice]

@lean burrow if u did what he said

not at fucking at all

[lucid walrus]

warrior's wall is sub-90sec, reck/avatar flat 90sec

[sharp meteor]

so think about cds as efficient. you can run and heal daamage, or you can just parry

[undone pumice]

cuz his burst is gone

already

[sharp meteor]

if you hold cds all game then you might die to mana or w/e

[undone pumice]

and then you can swing into him

[sharp meteor]

or spend less time hitting htem because ytou're running

you can also parry offensively (can't be disarmed)

paging enu the kitty player

[undone pumice]

this also works in reverse

if u are tryinf to burst an arms

it is possible to disarm him to stop die by the sword

[lucid walrus]

worst shit in the world is walling another melee's damage then getting stunned/disarmed or disarmed from behind as arms specifically

[sharp meteor]

also just had a game where i got disarmed through parry because the eq elemental stunned me kms

[lucid walrus]

i imagine it's the equivalent of having to trinket a silence as a caster/healer

[lean burrow]

parry stops if I get disarmed?

wow

[mystic barn]

You still get the dam reduction

just not the parry

[lucid walrus]

you still get a 30% wall

[lean burrow]

oh ok

[undone pumice]

its like a worse enraged regen if parried

[lucid walrus]

just can't parry without a weapon. the upside to this is you can only be disarmed while cc'd or disarmed from the back

[undone pumice]

disarmed*

[mystic barn]

i mean

can you heal if you are disarmed during enraged regen?

[undone pumice]

no but

u can press during stun

[mystic barn]

i guess

[undone pumice]

also u can press impending

if disarmed

broken

[sharp meteor]

ya cus u punch them

pow idiot gimme health

[undone pumice]

you also cant dodge during stuns

[lucid walrus]

it's a stickup

[lean burrow]

that's helpful, thanks, so if I'm too greedy with cds my healer will go oom

[undone pumice]

so u can punch a rogue in the back during a stun through evasion

or dh durinf blur

[lucid walrus]

lots of things can cause ooming. whether that's failure to do damage, poor mana management, spec efficiency or somethin else

yes though greeding cds = more mana spent

[undone pumice]

u want to know tho

that arms is prob one of the best damp specs

and fury is decent at it

so usually the enemy should lose over long games

as warr

[lucid walrus]

only thing it felt like s1 warrior died to was hunters or other warriors

[undone pumice]

because your consistant pressure is incredibly high

ur burst not so much tho

fair trade

[sharp meteor]

lmao no u just die because no dam and u take infinite dam

[sharp meteor]

fury has some of the highest sustain for like 20-30 seconds

[tribal wedge]

can we equip 2x the same weapon (the vers/mastery one) or we have to take the vers/mast and the vers/crit ?

[undone pumice]

historically it was

not anymore tho

[lean burrow]

thank frens

[sharp meteor]

like they press all their buttons then die anyways 15 seconds later

[lean burrow]

I'm smart now

[lucid walrus]

you can equip both w/ the same stats

[sharp meteor]

literally play fury and spam dam into the least mobile lowest armor thing

[tribal wedge]

thx 🙂

[lucid walrus]

both vers/crit

[undone pumice]

like

usually arms is damp spec @sharp meteor

not rn tho

[elder wigeon]

@lucid walrus @sharp meteor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVsd-4swAJw

[lucid walrus]

oh fuck yeah

[near delta]

Low CR 2s is pain

[undone pumice]

omg

any other weps?

that do this

[lucid walrus]

there probably are

dunno off the top of my head though

[sharp meteor]

what am i lookin at

[lucid walrus]

no tracers

[sharp meteor]

ohhh

[undone pumice]

no swing effects

[sharp meteor]

i see

[undone pumice]

just pure AXE

[elder wigeon]

brutal 2h sword I believe?

[sharp meteor]

so my fem orc uses the swish animation for slam and hamstring but not male orc

who uses 2hspecial, like the overhead

i don't get it

[elder wigeon]

slam and hamstring are overhead as male orc

[lucid walrus]

i can check this rq. just need to buy it lmao

[undone pumice]

who

[elder wigeon]

brutal gladiator 2h sword

[undone pumice]

marks of honor?

[near delta]

I wonder if necromedes does that since similar type model

[elder wigeon]

depends, a lot of the old weapons were updated

[undone pumice]

wtf

it looks like discount green ashbringer

[near delta]

This rdruid kicked me for telling him he should use cyclone

[undone pumice]

rdruids are all 100% baked

[lucid walrus]

necromedes still has trails

just looked

[near delta]

My healing is just enough

And I was like oh

[sharp meteor]

I don't mind the trails honestly

I just dislike when the animations don't really flow together

[lucid walrus]

they ain't bad

[sharp meteor]

and mortal strike not being 2hspecial tilts me

the spin is stupid

[lucid walrus]

playing on a shitty laptop w/o effects for whirlwind looked so goofy until i upgraded

ww is still a stupid looking animation but still

[undone pumice]

wtf am i looking at here

[lucid walrus]

rampage

[sharp meteor]

rampaging some leveling mobs on my xth warr

[undone pumice]

also how

[lucid walrus]

lassan discovers particle effects.jpg

[sharp meteor]

psure female panda has the best 1h melee animations

[undone pumice]

bro i dont look at my guy when im playing

i look at hp bar

execute mashine

[lucid walrus]

my hp bar is next to my toon

☻

[undone pumice]

hp bar of enemy

[sharp meteor]

i unironically wouldn't play warr if i didn't have this mog i don't think

[undone pumice]

wtf wat mog

[sharp meteor]

tomb elite

[lucid walrus]

see here

i wish i wasn't like 15 in 7.2 or whenever tomb elite was around

[sharp meteor]

ya i wish i got the mop roman one

[elder wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msp_jft14YQ

best thing about it

[undone pumice]

i look this icon

[lucid walrus]

can confirm that brutal glad 2h doesn't have effects

[elder wigeon]

:)

[undone pumice]

i buy when pc done resetting yea

[elder wigeon]

you can sneak an enchant on it too

[undone pumice]

the what

[elder wigeon]

yep

[indigo barn]

Any tips on fight ele/Destro/X as ret/Warr/hpriest?

[elder wigeon]

go destro, alternate stops for the locks dmg, don't overlap, only go shaman if kyrian

you have the option to triple cover as well

[lean burrow]

sorry, what's "alternate stops"?

like chain stun/interrupt?

[nimble jasper]

mostly just kick

you dont wanna both kick on the same bolt

[elder wigeon]

overlapping kicks, overlapping reflect with kick, kick with stun, etc any combination

[lucid walrus]

you kick one cast, partner kicks next

if you have comms it's much easier to call things like that but considering how many locks play resolve it's hard to figure out a decent answer for that

[elder wigeon]

"I'm gonna kick this off so i can stun"

[lucid walrus]

so fucking stupid lol

[sharp meteor]

it means "i get next"

[near delta]

Honestly overlapping kicks might be the right move now lmao

One person kicks the chaos bolt other person kicks off echoing

[lean burrow]

thanks guys

[indigo barn]

Tbh finding a way for your healer if they have spammable cc with no cd to break echoing for you without getting crossed might be huge. I.e clone or MC

[lucid walrus]

having any kind of shaman for that matchup despite resto being pretty dookie would feel good i'm sure

best kick in the biz

[sharp meteor]

ya that can be fine if u putting everything into shutting down soul or w/e

issue is often u want dk or sham shearing cc on healer which would set u further behind than a bolt going off

[near delta]

Yup

[mystic barn]

d

[near delta]

[mystic barn]

[sharp meteor]

outlaw deletion when

[elder wigeon]

when arms stops getting cucked by blizzard hq

[mystic barn]

My only question is why do outlaws pop evasion when you’re not even looking at them

[sharp meteor]

because it doesn't have a cd

[elder wigeon]

same reason dh's blur

[sharp meteor]

i have bodied like a dozen dhs today

[elder wigeon]

it has a cd however, their priest can instantly reset it and so can they

[sharp meteor]

who blurred before i sent conq/reck

[mystic barn]

Ya but I atleast have to death coil a dh to make them blur

[elder wigeon]

"50%"

[mystic barn]

cmon man karg tested 20 hits on blur

[sharp meteor]

80% for 10 just sit on your hands zz

[mystic barn]

he confirmed it to be 58%

[elder wigeon]

lmao

who?

[mystic barn]

karanze karanze karanze

[elder wigeon]

did he crunch the numbers?

[mystic barn]

he crunched something

We love blur into symbols of hope blur

where’s all the kitty players at

[sharp meteor]

probably down at like 2.2k

[mystic barn]

why

They were absolutely gamers last ssn

[lucid walrus]

kyrian affinity got clowned

[mystic barn]

@elder wigeon explain

[sharp meteor]

because trinket parrying first go doesn't always net a kill now

the comp is in ruins

[lucid walrus]

necro feral does ridiculous damage now but it's just kinda suited for jungle

[sharp meteor]

necro fury plus necro feral might b chill

[lucid walrus]

wouldn't doubt it

feral mastery is cracked iirc

[sharp meteor]

just tryna figure the best comp for me to play double time warbringer then mash raging blow and rampage while my team figures the rest out hmm

[mystic barn]

spriest

make him a life swap bot

psyfiend is your new best friend

[elder wigeon]

kitty cleave is just as good this season but people are meta slaves

[mystic barn]

why aren’t you playing it

[elder wigeon]

and every feral is a crack whore for jungle

read above

[mystic barn]

what metaslave comp u playin

[sharp meteor]

ferals only play with their stockholmed hunter

[elder wigeon]

none

don't have a team

[mystic barn]

so are you playing kitty

[sharp meteor]

last i saw him was with an aff lock

[elder wigeon]

nope

all my friends abandoned me for other games and prepping for wrath classic

[sharp meteor]

o that is tragic

[elder wigeon]

ye no teammate andy

[sharp meteor]

hmm wrath is soon isn't it

[elder wigeon]

not really

[sharp meteor]

i keep forgetting that classic exists

[elder wigeon]

like 6-7 months

[mystic barn]

Play with teapot

Lumberjack cleave

[sharp meteor]

lmao

[elder wigeon]

[sharp meteor]

even when warr is the best class in the game

warr/warr is still not the play

[mystic barn]

it could be

[sharp meteor]

class too symbiotic, no reach

[mystic barn]

you just haven’t tapped into it’s potential yet

[sharp meteor]

i wanna get okay at something else but i think i tunnel on warr for remainder of sl and dragonlands

idk how my healer plays every class

[mystic barn]

Play mage

[sharp meteor]

er every healing spec rather

[elder wigeon]

every healer plays about the same

[mystic barn]

Just play kyrian hpriest and run it down with tsg

kill enemy healer first go every time

[lucid walrus]

caster meta seasons always make me miss the hilarity of cleave seasons

[sharp meteor]

it's not really a caster meta

it's warlock/frost and sometimes warlock/warlock

[mystic barn]

I see quite the even mix

[lucid walrus]

my class isn't s++ tier best in the game = caster meta obv

[sharp meteor]

i dont see many ele balance shadow or fire with wizard besides frost with lock

[mystic barn]

Some nights it’s just warlock comps other nights it’s cleave comps

[sharp meteor]

it's legit just mostly destro with its tier

[lucid walrus]

yeah even the other two lock specs aren't /that/ egregious

doesn't aff not even play 4set

[mystic barn]

It’s an outlier in Pve rn don’t know why they aren’t touching it

uhh I think mine does

[sharp meteor]

idk destro overtuned in everything

aff bad in pve, okay-goodish in pvp?

[mystic barn]

it’s pretty good

I like it a lot so far

He offered to play destro but it’s like mehh

[indigo barn]

Run 2 set only, you need to use shadowbolt for 4 set procs

[mystic barn]

9.2.5 they can use 4 set

cuz pvp talent and removal of demon armor

[near delta]

I demand at least 5000 samples and a p value

[mystic barn]

Id do it myself if I had a dh to punch

how dirty would necro bannered frost dk be with blessing of summer

🦀 want an arms to test

[sharp meteor]

Fury seems better. Unholy or frost probably fine, then nf hpal or prot. MAYBE ret.

Actually I can't remember how long until big summers activates.

[mystic barn]

10 sec I think

Which is during the setup

[near delta]

Man the catalyst gank meta is getting silly lol

Saw some priest who was mind controlling people off

[indigo barn]

Summer is a cancer and should go already

[earnest wharf]

wow is there an rbg honor bonus this week? getting 1200-1600 honor a win it seems

[mystic barn]

They buffed honor and conq gains

[earnest wharf]

permanently or just this week? feels awesome lol

[mystic barn]

perm I think for rest of this ssn

[earnest wharf]

also for rbg's do you think it's worth running fresh meat cuz there's a lot more targets and wipes to reset the first hit proc?

[mystic barn]

idk I don’t play warrior

@elder wigeon answer this young man’s question

[earnest wharf]

ahh ok, just getting used to it again since recent resub. Very generous of blizz for the big conquest and honor boost

finally alt/returning player friendly changes

[mystic barn]

generous

nah conq boxes are the friendly changes

[elder wigeon]

no i don't think so, fresh meat sucks because in pvp your rage generation isn't a problem and maintaining enrage uptime is brain dead with enduring rage

[earnest wharf]

cool thx, will stick with SD then

[elder wigeon]

unless you're playing against MLX in 3's or RMP, your enrage uptime should be >80% with enduring rage, fresh meat is useless

[earnest wharf]

do you take the root break pvp talent for MLX?

[elder wigeon]

depends on if going mage or not

if not going mage, no

you don't really need a root break to stay on a lock, but against a mage? it's necessary

[earnest wharf]

friggin hate destro lol, even in casual rbg's such a nightmare

[elder wigeon]

I've seen top fury warriors do a lot of different things into MLX and they've worked

IE double charge bloodrage and warbringer, battle trance, enduring rage + bolt etc

I generally prefer enduring rage and battle trance for the sustain and rage generation but YMMV

I haven't been super high rated yet this season, but I can speak for <=2500cr

[earnest wharf]

i'm still struggling to get to 1800 in LFG so these strats should work for noob tier!

[spice hornet]

Best counter to mlx is to not q

[elder wigeon]

I forgot about this https://app.squadov.gg/share/UntranquillyConcussantJoni

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, me for most of this afternoon.

People aren't super familiar with how Fury does damage so there's lots of "random" kills.

Especially Mages.

[elder wigeon]

it was just asmongold graycen and flop lol, down goes venruki

[sharp meteor]

Weird that they're playing that tbh frost mage seems like an annoying time with a melee selfplay

[mystic barn]

ree drop the slaughter house stacks

[sharp meteor]

target don't need healing if it's dead lmao

[thick reef]

Guys so I have a low end PC I’m trying to but the most needed settings on and have the unneeded ones off to maximise fps. What settings do I acctually need enabled ?

[sharp meteor]

Textures and render distance, then render scale, I guess?

Saul plays on a shitcan toaster

[thick reef]

My tender scale is on 78%

All I have on is particle density and liquid detail on low

And view distance on 3

Do I need spell density on ?

[fickle forge]

I don't recall which one it is, might be texture or density, but if you don't have that above low you can't see ground effects like DH Darkness

[thick reef]

@fickle forge particle density ?

[lucid walrus]

would assume it’s particle but not sure

[undone pumice]

it is particle

i have almost everything else set to low except particle i think is good idea to run like that

[spice cargo]

Reckless abandon for when you get 4 pc?

[undone pumice]

yea

[left wyvern]

Need projected textures turned on for all of those ground effects too

[elder wigeon]

you can play am and reckless bandon

[fickle forge]

Reckless Brandon

[tribal wedge]

reckless branson cognac

[undone pumice]

bonzi buddy

[jolly light]

stacking x10 death wish, taking berserker, popping a saltwater potion & strength potion in random BGs is alot of fun 😄

110% damage increase at least (if the percentages are additive)

[undone pumice]

random bg guide

necro fury

fully stack dwish

steal zerker

send feet pics to priest until he PIs you

saltwater + strength pot

dealing a million damage but taking a trillion

[jolly light]

prot pala immunity helps 😄

also don't forget the 20% haste buff in deepwind!

[lean burrow]

how does gcd flows so smoothly? is it just because of high haste?

I have 50ms ping and it still has some weird delay

like I press something, it stays glowing for a bit (as if I held a button), then the clockwise shadow animation is already half-way through

[mystic barn]

I love having too high of haste where gcds begin to overlap themselves and then give me a longer delay than low haste

[undone pumice]

[elder wigeon]

30% haste and enrage

frenzy as well

[rain field]

I lost a game last night vs WW/HPAL, I dumpstered the hpal and then during seed I got stunned and 100-0'd through wall while my healer was distracted trying to kill the seed.

I don't know if I can keep playing this game.

[jolly light]

why does rampage not always apply slaughterhouse?

despite the hits landing

[ancient sonnet]

if the target already has a mortal strike effect > 4% it won't apply

er 5%

[jolly light]

hmm well that ruins the talent in my solo shuffle matchups 😄

[ancient sonnet]

just tell the others to not use their MS depending on what class it is

or just rush in first, get your shit rolling, and hold W

[sharp meteor]

Other mortal strikes fuck it up.

Which makes it sketch in bgs or shuffle.

[undone pumice]

or just dont run slaughter

[jolly light]

does anything else have a 40% healing reduction? it's too good to lose

[ancient sonnet]

I mean it's strongest MS in the game. Seems odd not to run it

[sharp meteor]

Shiv is 40% for 9 seconds every 25 with hemotoxin as Assa

then there's Arms with sharpen, and SP with Psyfiend

[ancient sonnet]

Furyi s 40% all the time

[sharp meteor]

Eh only if you have uptime and stack it, but yeah in theory it is the "best" if given uptime

[ancient sonnet]

In shuffle I've never not had 100% uptime

[sharp meteor]

Important thing is not gapping it during cds unless they're actually dead

which doesn't really happen so that's nice

[undone pumice]

only if u can apply it, which u cant

[ancient sonnet]

which is why I said tell the other dps to not use theirs or to run in and apply yours first

[sharp meteor]

u can tell dh to drop mortal dance or w/e

[ancient sonnet]

they'd be happy to. They're starved on pvp talents

[sharp meteor]

yepyepyep

[fickle forge]

Eyo any orc gamers in the chat?

[jolly light]

i am the 1 mag'har

[fickle forge]

Who's the vulpeera?

[twilit ridge]

Based chad

[jolly light]

starting at level 10 is OP

[twilit ridge]

Ngl I was thinking of going maghar myself

[sharp meteor]

Hey.

[twilit ridge]

But there's one more glad mount I want

[fickle forge]

You have to deal with the fact mag'har has terrible sounds when struck

[sharp meteor]

I will be the best fox.

by being the only fox

[fickle forge]

A gold medal is a gold medal

[sharp meteor]

imagine being a win or two away from duelist and a fox in honor gear pulls your head off

[sharp meteor]

idk orc has more options it's like the dwarf and dark iron problem

[warped warren]

LMAO

[nimble jasper]

dwarf is comparable at least since both remove debuffs

maghar is just inting tho

[sharp meteor]

It is.

By allah I will make Worgen work.

[undone pumice]

bismillah

[jolly light]

is fury decent for RBGs?

[sharp meteor]

Probably.

[lean burrow]

I mean more like there's no delay, looks like 0ms ping

which might also be because of spell queue window, i don't know

i'll try to make or find a gif to show what I mean

[thick reef]

is there anything inherently bad with a pve ui? i got to 1800 pretty easily but wanna try push a bit further and notice barely anyone uses full pve ui’s

reason being is cause not sure if its worth to get used to looking at buttons from my action bar

[lean burrow]

does this look like lag?

I press ability -> delay -> gcd is already 1/4 done, spell activates

by how much gcd is already done depends on ping I think?

[thick reef]

thats spell q window i think?

locks in ur ability before the gcd is done

by default its like 400ms

[lean burrow]

Isn't it only before the gcd?

The yellow glow

But after spell activates, it skips part of gcd animation

[fickle forge]

Define full PvE UI please

[wheat jay]

i have technically full pve ui

lol

[fickle forge]

If you can see enemy DR, your DR, Omnibar and some plater that lets you see active buffs, you can really customize your UI however you want

[thick reef]

im using atrocity ui with no tweaks atm

it has basic pvp stuff i believe but mainly optimized for pve

[fickle forge]

No clue what that is

Pic?

[thick reef]

sure sec

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/970274139006984202/unknown.png

it feels a bit cluttered in the middle compared to typical pvp uis i see

[lean burrow]

Must be nice to have enormous monitor

[thick reef]

24.5 inch i think

xd

[fickle forge]

Only thing you need really is omnibar, Gladius and Diminishing really

[thick reef]

not big in the slightest

[fickle forge]

I like to have my party frames around the middle area, but whatever is best for you

[thick reef]

is there a reason you dont typically see much ui overhaul for high end pvpers?

just never bothered with it?

[fickle forge]

Just not needed

[thick reef]

yeah fair enough

[fickle forge]

If you can track CDs and DRs, then rest is just a bonus

[sharp meteor]

wym most of them have a web of weakauras

also most people can't be fucked to even lock their gladius

because tinkering with ui is for pve nerds

[thick reef]

i mean mainly with a weakaura such as the set i have in the middle

i understand pvp wa’s

[lean burrow]

My ui is nice and clean

[sharp meteor]

my ui is a mess but i have used it since wrath so

[quasi lotus]

ye nowadays people aren't bothering with fancy UIs everyone just copy pasta the same WA that blares a warning in the middle of your screen

[fickle forge]

WA is mostly for big shit you don't normally see and you gotta react to swiftly

Like Spinning Meme Kick

[thick reef]

is there a sorta pvp wa set? for the basics you’d want to have shown

[fickle forge]

Mes

[thick reef]

i literally memed my way to 1800 so

[sharp meteor]

mes pack that goes honk honk on enemy cd is the super basic one

[lean burrow]

What is it referencing? Some ww proc?

[thick reef]

didnt do anything good for myself xd

[quasi lotus]

honk

[thick reef]

ah kk

[sharp meteor]

how meme we talkin

[thick reef]

ill check it out

[fickle forge]

Perhaps

[thick reef]

full pve gear @ 276 ilvl with mythic first sigil

[sharp meteor]

o legendary

[thick reef]

if i dont 1 shot i die

but it wasnt too bad in 0-1800

[lean burrow]

Pls don't troll me sir Karg

[sharp meteor]

my healer agreed to help me setup meme fox on the condition that i spam licked everybody we queued into

[fickle forge]

[thick reef]

50 mastery 30 haste 35 vers felt nice

[sharp meteor]

and honestly not noticing lack of hardiness as much as i thought i would

[fickle forge]

I sure did when I switched it the other way

Non-orc to orc was 👌

[ancient sonnet]

https://wago.io/UHafT-sln is decent as well

[fickle forge]

Dance hunter??

[ancient sonnet]

shows who they're targeting

[sharp meteor]

is there one for bolt

i need a bolt wa

so i can better bladestorm them

[ancient sonnet]

like chaos bolt stacks?

[lean burrow]

I think it's not updated for 9.2

[sharp meteor]

storm bolt

like when it's midair

like the spear weakaura

that every fucking mage and lock has

[ancient sonnet]

ah dont think so. Least not that I have

[sharp meteor]

i don't wanna play spear any more when every lock has trinketport for the midair spear

[fickle forge]

Imagine if WAs were taken down

[sharp meteor]

raiders would highkey die lmao

[fickle forge]

Every MLX would lose 10 rating

[ancient sonnet]

game would be better but it would be an adjustment

[sharp meteor]

nah game would die lmao

people can't function

without their spaceships

[fickle forge]

Now imagine if Blizzard removed /pull 3

Every RMP would drop 1k rating

[ancient sonnet]

Gross: https://wago.io/XmJHL7K7g

[lean burrow]

Bunk now

[sharp meteor]

ya i wonder if ican tweak it to work for storm bolt

[fickle forge]

Just change the message and the trigger no?

[lean burrow]

Do people actually react to 0.1s spear flying to blink out?

[fickle forge]

They do

I reckon the actual throw animation must be roughly 500 ms

[sharp meteor]

Absolutely.

Every game is either their priest grips them if not covered, trinket grips, they trinket port or take gate

if you try to just fling spear into them they blink/port it, especially shimmer

and even if you do stick it they can just alter, ray, or bug out of it

[fickle forge]

If I can react to 400 ms lights in For Honor, I reckon mages and priests can as well for spear

[sharp meteor]

CONQ BANNER EVERY GAME GLORY TO THE PRIMUS

[fickle forge]

Key is to Charge into spear 😎 👍

[lean burrow]

Summoning steward every game is cringe

[sharp meteor]

Tempted to outright drop my Arms Warrs and swap Fury because it just feels so much better into almost everything.

[fickle forge]

I too like to decrease my lifts

[mystic barn]

Isn’t fury stronger Bc it can wield 2 2hander compared to 12” arms warriors

[fickle forge]

Look at it this way fam

Fury has 2 2h wep, but still can't swing 50k executes

Checkmate

[ancient sonnet]

but you pull 13k dps all game

[mystic barn]

hardest hitting execute from an arms warrior on me so far is like 15k

Bop every banner go

Arms in shambles

[raw summit]

Arms 🤏

[undone pumice]

@fickle forge can u react to 300ms lights tho

[lean burrow]

I thought fury is officially stronger than arms now?

[fickle forge]

No

[undone pumice]

luckily theres only 1 in the game

[fickle forge]

Memelander

[undone pumice]

shaolin top light

[fickle forge]

You mean Highlander offensive light right?

[undone pumice]

no theyre 400

[fickle forge]

Imma doubt (x) that one

[undone pumice]

they just have

fucking

HIDDEN animation

the indicator is fucked for hl lights

but theyre still 400ms

but shaolins top light is fucked and 300ms

[fickle forge]

I member when that game used to be fun

[lucid walrus]

game was good pre-black prior

[mystic barn]

removal of toe stab oos punish is wack

[lucid walrus]

bp didn’t even make the game bad that’s just the last thing i remember

[mystic barn]

also afro got solod by only toe stabs ez

[lucid walrus]

gb’s also not giving a free heavy is cooked

is that still a thing

[undone pumice]

@fickle forge literallywhen

[fickle forge]

Prior to damage nerfs and when they made everyone lightning bolt fast

[undone pumice]

bp made game bad cuz the game doesnt have a ban system and that guy is picked way too much

oh u mean ccu

yea that one kinda just

fucked all heavys

[lucid walrus]

yeah fair

[undone pumice]

highlander having less byperarmor, damage and worse framedata than berserker

[lucid walrus]

dunno why turtles other than LB and other hybrids/heavies were ever needed

[undone pumice]

😎 👍

[fickle forge]

Lawbringer having no hyper armor

[undone pumice]

lb has minimal fucking hyperarmor

[lucid walrus]

member LB’s block —> shove —> light to death?

[undone pumice]

shove on block

[fickle forge]

Naked 5ft dude almost perma hyper armor, but fully plated behemoth dude has none

[undone pumice]

was incredibly cringe

u have to remember zerker gets hyper armor

whenever he wants

the frame he wants it

[lucid walrus]

cent wallsplat nerf was needed too but god that was fucking hilarious

[fickle forge]

God man, instant kill shugoki hug

[undone pumice]

feinting = hyperarmor

[fickle forge]

[undone pumice]

ty ubisoft

[lucid walrus]

goki 1shot was pure comedy

[undone pumice]

ah

[fickle forge]

Literal thrash character that could 1 hit you with dumb luck

[undone pumice]

u guys like pre rework, rework1, rwork 2, or rework 3 goki better?

[lucid walrus]

i don’t even know what any of them did i’m ngl

[undone pumice]

goki got 3 reworks

[lucid walrus]

i just played warden, cent & a little kensei

[undone pumice]

first one took away hug 1 shit

:c

[fickle forge]

I liked pre-rework cent

Centchad was lit

[undone pumice]

pre rework cent was also thrash

[fickle forge]

But he was Chad

[undone pumice]

almost as trash as sword and shield arms

[lucid walrus]

it was so oppressive for no reason

loved it

[undone pumice]

now hes virgin with variabke bash timings

cent pre rework

u mess up

-110hp tax

[fickle forge]

Destroyed

[undone pumice]

cent now

u dont 1/4 dice roll the one working option?

[lucid walrus]

jab, light, jab, light

[undone pumice]

55 hp tax

cent just became another option select andy hero

like bp or warden

[fickle forge]

They all are

[undone pumice]

hey isnt it weird every single knight except peacekeeper are completely fucking stupid?

[fickle forge]

Anyone with a bash can 50/50 or 33/33/33 now

[undone pumice]

only feintable bashes can do that

or softfeintabke bashes

[lucid walrus]

conq has always been ass to fight

fucking hate conq

[undone pumice]

when attacking someone is the worst option in neutral

epic conq moment

[lean burrow]

For honor channel now

[undone pumice]

y

[fickle forge]

Cent, warden, shugoki, conq, shinobi, valk, shaolin, tiandi and more

[lean burrow]

If warrior mains play for honor outside of wow

What do mage mains play?

[undone pumice]

pve game

because theyre the main character

[lucid walrus]

get yelled at by their wife’s boyfriend simulator

[fickle forge]

Writting fantasies about how the skinny geek protagonist can beat the big bad buff antagonist

[mortal elm]

maan i cant find any groups for a couple matches, to get conquest

[lean burrow]

[lucid walrus]

dead game

[fickle forge]

Just send caches

Hehe eksdee

[mortal elm]

I need chest

spesific

[fickle forge]

For tier?

[mortal elm]

yep

and havent done any pvp activies yet

in this season

sadly tier set looks so bad

[fickle forge]

You don't even have to enter arena if you just want that

Do the two weeklies and do the epic BG weeklies

Should have the conq then

[mortal elm]

epic bgs takes like 40 min

[lucid walrus]

sounds like a great time to “””base sit””” and watch netflix

[fickle forge]

And how long does it take you to get an LFG group?

[earnest wharf]

getting into a good RBG LFG takes forever for returning players before getting geared up, especially for melee lol

there's an army of us to each healer available

the honor/conquest per hour is amazing though in a decent group

[jolly light]

sure but most of the group would need to be well-geared already :p

[earnest wharf]

yea ppl are super picky now cuz there's not as many "newer" players now, for like scrub 1600 groups they're full of 275+ lol

i was getting 1600 honor and 300 conquest a win last night though so it's great for catch up

but i guess when you figure in the hour it took me getting spam declined, the math doesn't work out as good lol

[jolly light]

yeah tbh even lower arena ratings feel like the domain of experienced players nowadays though

also you could start your own RBG group & only invite experienced & geared people - alot of people in LFG seem to do that 😄

[earnest wharf]

i should just join the dark side like that. So many teams I join looking for "high xp, geared" the leader is like 250 ilvl and 900cr. If youi can't beatem, join em lol

i finally lucked out late night and the hero lead must have invited me out of pity haha, got a 5-0 run and enough conquest/honor for full set now

[mortal elm]

I might dont have 875 with these quests tho

[earnest wharf]

do yall run RA for bigger burst in M+ or AM for the lower CD to line up spear and reckless in M+?

never was into M+ before but gonna attempt a KSM run cuz the mount looks cool this season

@mortal elm the first regular/epic/brawl win per day also gives a bigger conquest bonus for the actual win plus the quest turn ins. And there's another quest for solo queue, then solo queue 15 rounds

it's quite a bit of total conquest for all casual modes

[mortal elm]

okkkk ty

might get it with daily win tomorrow

[earnest wharf]

solo queue win or loss is 175 conquest, then the 15 rounds win or loss is another 175

[spice hornet]

You run AM on fort weeks abs RA on tyrannical

[earnest wharf]

cool thanks! gonna give it a try

[spice hornet]

You play kyrian and go mikanikos

[earnest wharf]

cool for the low spear CD right?

[spice hornet]

Triple potency with whirlwind conduit

Yeah

Spear is up literally like every pull

[earnest wharf]

i just started getting into M+,, feels pretty fun as fury/kyrian/signet atm

[spice hornet]

Yup it feels nice

[earnest wharf]

there's a big CD every pull for some pumps

[mortal elm]

ill have 750 with quests

[earnest wharf]

it's not the most fun thing, but you can do "0 CR YOLO" RBG's for the last 100 points. Even a loss that isn't a blowout gives some conquest

[near delta]

Lemme know if you get that working

[jolly light]

solo shuffle with tanks is stupid

feels like the class with the weakest defensives is guaranteed to die within seconds

[full quiver]

it's just dumb now because there's no rating or mmr

[ancient sonnet]

and the scaling is horseshit

[near delta]

Saw this poor MW the other day with 44k health

[scarlet barn]

[nimble jasper]

anytime i see a disc priest

im just like

why

in my head

[mental knoll]

brother and I picked up pvp and he plays ret pally. Whats a better warrior spec to combo with, arms or fury?

[undone pumice]

2s?

[mental knoll]

yeh

[undone pumice]

fury

[mental knoll]

thanks

[thick reef]

yea fury better then arms for sure lol

[undone pumice]

u need 2 healers for arms to function atm

[thick reef]

yea its still p good in 3s

[steep inlet]

not sure pretty good is the word

it’s just okay atm

[elder wigeon]

I play on west coast with 75 ping and my sqw is 75

In this meta arms is trash

[willow nymph]

Best way to level?

[raw summit]

dungeons and quests

[willow nymph]

And what about gear

[undone pumice]

"defend" in

random bgs

[willow nymph]

I'm lvl 55 rn all BFA gear lmfao I'm doing bgs and skirms for xp so when I hit 60 I can have full honor set Atleast

[elder wigeon]

Waste of time imo

[willow nymph]

There's no AH gear worth buying at this lvl?

[undone pumice]

no its a waste of time to lvl thru pvp

they obliterated it some time ago

[warped warren]

they buffed honor gains anyways

[frank knoll]

I hear torghast is the best way to level

[elder wigeon]

who's gonna tell these rbg leads that high xp is not 2.1k

[sharp meteor]

what do they even mean by "link something"

if i link rbg exp they're like umm something recent

okay what about arena exp

and it just ticks them off

like bro it's a 1600 mmr game let me in

[elder wigeon]

I just tell them I'm 3150xp and i get accepted, I'm shameless at this point I just want in

[undone pumice]

they ask for xp

they get xp

wtf how is it shameless

[sharp meteor]

idk

[elder wigeon]

you can't link it and it's way overkill, i also don't link anything

[undone pumice]

LINK GLAD NOOB

[sharp meteor]

i think i got decline dfrom like 20 diff healers in lfg the other day despite linking exp and main cr

[elder wigeon]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

can't even carry people for free

"sorry bro i wanna wait for a hunter"

[nimble jasper]

the worst

is carrying people for free

till they find the one way

to throw

[sharp meteor]

i usually just want games and people try to be picky

[nimble jasper]

and lose the game

i tell this disc to just spec dome

nah plays both archangels

wtf is the point of playing disc

if not aggro

[undone pumice]

none

[nimble jasper]

ik

[undone pumice]

[nimble jasper]

playing disc

is throwing

[undone pumice]

playing

is throwing

[mystic barn]

should post that in dk disc for the copers who think that orc makes or breaks 1600 or 1800

I’m assuming that’s your vulpera

[sharp meteor]

@elder wigeon

[mystic barn]

what is that

[sharp meteor]

A stupid fox.

[mystic barn]

I don’t like it

[sharp meteor]

Or did somebody actually think that

[mystic barn]

that was the whole argument

[sharp meteor]

Ahahaha

[mystic barn]

that it’s required to be orc if you want to play horde

[sharp meteor]

There's no point where you'd want to be a Vulpera over Orc but it isn't going to make or break anything. Funny, though.

[mystic barn]

yep

it’s my racial holding me back not my skill or team xd

1600 player doesn’t magically get 200 cr just from being orc

[sharp meteor]

Yolo rbgs are unreal suffering hmm

[elder wigeon]

put it down

[mystic barn]

you kinda look like that thing resune

[elder wigeon]

need i remind you you're a dk

[mystic barn]

I play fury now

[elder wigeon]

yuck

[sharp meteor]

we all abuse fury together

until arms gets the buffs it deserves

[elder wigeon]

arms is trash

[sharp meteor]

arms is so bad man LMAO

[undone pumice]

imagine if

prot.finally got thanos.snapped

[mystic barn]

I love current arms

best iteration

[sharp meteor]

slam an shit

dstance is paper

hate it here

[undone pumice]

battlemaster to replace prot

2h+shield

[elder wigeon]

imagine if echoing resolve got nerfed hard, IE lasts 8 seconds and increased cc taken by another 5% to 30%

[mystic barn]

Echoing resolve should be duration of cc x2

casually kidneyed for the full duration of dark soul

[sharp meteor]

owo -blinks out of the stun-

it' sfunny for lockouts though

[undone pumice]

uwu -portals to dalaran crater-

[sharp meteor]

mage cs's them for like 10 seconds

[nimble jasper]

then the lock teams

would just cry that resolve unplayable into rmp

[sharp meteor]

thought it already was

[elder wigeon]

the fact mages can run resolve in rmp is fucked

[mystic barn]

ya I thought resolve was unplayable into rmp already

[undone pumice]

the fact mages can run

break their legs already

[elder wigeon]

once upon a time you could duel a mage as a warrior and shit on them readily

[mystic barn]

reflect gpie noob

[wheat jay]

In mop?

[elder wigeon]

yes

[undone pumice]

that was one expansion?

[wheat jay]

So, back when the sun was a god?

[undone pumice]

mages are the og class to hate crime warriors

[elder wigeon]

in mop mages couldn't hate crime warriors

[mystic barn]

we’re u even alive during mop

[elder wigeon]

he wasn't

[undone pumice]

i was 5

[mystic barn]

resune caught in a lie

[wheat jay]

Mop was 3 decades ago

Oldsune

[undone pumice]

oh shit

[elder wigeon]

2012 baby

[mystic barn]

ah ya

[undone pumice]

yea i was 5 when it launched

unironically

[mystic barn]

Swg died 2011 played swtor then tried mop

[elder wigeon]

i would go unreasonably hard on a mop classic

[mystic barn]

cringe