pvp

[warped warren]

😂

[spice hornet]

that healer is wise

[elfin surge]

sup

[still mauve]

been playing against a few necro warriors in 2s latetly, is necro and kyrian equal or is some better then other?

[raw summit]

Necro

[still mauve]

is it unity deathmaker in 2s there aswell?

as necro

[raw summit]

U can swap between Signet and dm

I prefer dm

[still mauve]

thanks!

[tender cipher]

Is arms better for ret war rsham or fury?

Since sharpen works better for target swapping?

[sharp meteor]

Fury is better.

[fading hawk]

Fury is life.

[sharp meteor]

I legitimately don't think Arms is good outside turbo aka double healer.

Arms retwarr is somewhere between okay and good but I still think Fury is (generally) better.

[tender cipher]

what about the ramping ms from fury? wouldnt that be a downside since you wanna hit whoevers close as retwar?

[near delta]

You get 20% ms from just one rampage

40% for 2 as long as they're within 6 seconds of each other

You essentially can perma sharpen someone

[undone pumice]

balance

[near delta]

And if you swap the cd is effectively ~10 seconds

[tender cipher]

gotcha thanks for the tips. any recommendations on playing vs mage lock? hard matchup for sure

[sharp meteor]

I feel like retwarr should hard lose that

[tender cipher]

yeah well its every other que lol

[sharp meteor]

sometimes that's just how it be

last season was retwarr which domed my comp

lemme check wr

[near delta]

Your best bet is going all in on the frost mage I think?

Ret doesn't really have the mobility to keep up though

[tender cipher]

right, thats why i was thinking going lock lol

[dry trail]

ye go mage on mage lock

kite his deathborne if u can then all in mage

[tender cipher]

even though the ret has trouble connecting?

[undone pumice]

pretty sure ret has trouble connecting vs 100% of classes

[near delta]

You can legit global a mage in a stun

And if he's kiting the ret he's not sitting there hard casting frostbolts

So it heavily reduces their pressure

[sharp meteor]

i feel like retwarr should have like a 10-20% wr into mage/destro lmao

[near delta]

Still sounds scuffed as hell

lol Yeah

[sharp meteor]

neither have any reach o means of mitigating magic dam, one has mobility

it's just like the last thing they ever wanna see

can maybe 1-bang in like conq/wings/spear if they mess up but otherwise ur in ruins

[tender cipher]

we're sitting at like 2kmmr and its mage lock or lock/x every other game

[sharp meteor]

yeah wall of destro/frost that can't do anything except pop every coolie and out statcheck every cleave

honestly that's around the range where everybody tries to play aggro

[fickle forge]

Embrace aggro

Reject defense

[undone pumice]

embrace raging blow

[tender cipher]

isnt that the essence of ret war XD

[sharp meteor]

honestly this meta in a nutshell

play like a bitch die like a bitch

unfavorable matchup just swing into them as hard as you can and sometimes they'll whiff something and get mulched up

[tender cipher]

feels bad

[near delta]

60% of the time it works every time

[sharp meteor]

A lot of people get their rating just playing like that, although untampered aggro usually falls off somewhere around mid mmr where you don't randomly brute force people unless you're super clean

[near delta]

I ran into this Arms/Assa/Hpal team the other night that were playing like that

[sharp meteor]

they just kind of float 1800-2200 and ooga booga zerg less confidant players but don't actually know how to trade, position, cycle stuff, etc

bad melee eat bad wizards

[near delta]

Every single button hpal just bops instantly

They were like 1900 CR and 2200 MMR lmao

[sharp meteor]

yeah in hpal turbo i'll get offensive bop

in earlier seasons it'd be on doom/ascend when they were out of stops for that in particular

like vene is gone my sham just ascends and tears the dk in half through ibf in 2 seconds

[near delta]

DKs feel like tissue paper

[sharp meteor]

idk my healer thinks they're super tanky and hates when we hit them

started going hunter/dh and they just implode

[near delta]

Also true

The DKs that actually press deathstrike are tanky af

[fickle forge]

Turbo usually eats DK alive

[wheat jay]

where's your turbo

[fickle forge]

@fierce elm Where's my turbo?

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge Where's my turbo?

[wheat jay]

where's your kitty cleave?

[fickle forge]

Turbo deez nutz

[elfin surge]

at the top

[wheat jay]

your feral is back?

[elfin surge]

no i q with zev

[wheat jay]

who?

[elfin surge]

upgraded my feral

[elfin surge]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Proudmoore/Wodferalz

this guy

[wheat jay]

bruh

what is this fucking monster

[sharp meteor]

when u look at ladder every season it's that one guy

that's aalways up there

on foral

[wheat jay]

i never looked at the ladder

😄

[sharp meteor]

i always kind of wanted to play kitty or jungle but don't knoww any ferals

and the ones I've met have seemed a wee bit off

[elfin surge]

i dont have to play 2 characters at once when i q with zev

its great

[wheat jay]

lmao

#1 when?

[elfin surge]

busy farming twitch

[wheat jay]

fair enough lol

man i cba playing wow

but now im bored

xD

[near delta]

Mike Jones

[rustic geyser]

guuys

how does indelible victory work

does it replace the 40% healing of IV or

it adds

[near delta]

Adds

[near delta]

This is true. Furries the lot of em'.

Not that there's anything wrong with that

[sand shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-got-daenerys-raised-eyebrow-smug-gif-14614222

"ye sure nuffin wrong w/ that"

[undone pumice]

[sharp meteor]

might actually queue furbo cleave

[sharp meteor]

Nah, just a heal based off the dmg of the hit

Dead slot if you aren't playing impending, though, which feels bad, like if you need double charge or bolt

[undone pumice]

so anima sphere better?

[sharp meteor]

I think it depends on what you queue and how often you pick impending

as turbo, especially hpal or druid I'll rarely skip out on bolt

so I just go sphere every game

[undone pumice]

yea so if ur playing the only good arms comp

u play sphere

[sharp meteor]

I'm generally fury now

and arms is the ip conduit

fury doesn't like pressing ip

[fickle forge]

Play arms and preserve your lifts

[undone pumice]

no i play legs

[fickle forge]

Never skip leg spec

[undone pumice]

never skip back spec

or u will be spineless like ndogo with his rerolls

[fickle forge]

NRIPgo

Ndogo: "I play fury 😎 👍"
Fury: Actually becomes a good spec
Ndogo: "Aight Imma head outta here"

[sharp meteor]

many such cases with bad or snowflake specs

it's like they bank on people not knowing what the spec does

[undone pumice]

@coarse glenin

my beloved

[fickle forge]

Poor Bru

[undone pumice]

@coarse glen who are u

fake

[fickle forge]

I only play non-meta

I'd be 4k rated if I played meta

Imagine if I had a real weapon

[undone pumice]

jax

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge is cringe

[rustic geyser]

i am playing iv ofc

so i should put the conduit huh

[undone pumice]

[sharp meteor]

ya them in a nutshell

[sharp meteor]

ya probs

high value if u always play it

like 9-13k heal or something

[fickle forge]

Turbo??????

[fierce elm]

CRINGE

[sand shadow]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringSweetCougarKAPOW-0WIPkYBXnS3t3ehW

[fickle forge]

"Nice parry Mr. Zhrey" - Drainer, probably

[sand shadow]

[near delta]

Drainer is so supportive and non-toxic

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I was telling people about this since patch was on ptr it's like hey guys sepsis vendetta ma pow people die instantly

like so fast u can't react, and even if u can most buttons won't save

also summer deletion when

[fickle forge]

I member when Drainer ran 80 yd away to avoid a priest fear, still got feared, and then I had to sprint and tremor him while @fierce elm took D

[fierce elm]

: )

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[sand shadow]

those are just drainer things tho

[sharp meteor]

I remember the enemy healer trying to get cc on my healer for like 15 seconds

and we just like killed his guy

[near delta]

Lol classic

[sand shadow]

drainer gearing a priest on NA rn

[near delta]

HPals will be like that sometimes trying to get a fat repentance

[sand shadow]

ought to be fun

NA plebs prepare to be called a shit region

[sharp meteor]

like the hpal thought he could hoj our mw

just got ringed into the room

[sharp meteor]

wym we've always been shit region

[near delta]

2400 NA is unranked EU

[sharp meteor]

oh and i remember going to cap rat alt in bfa and i was like oh this must be a drainer fanboy but it was drainer

then he flamed me on stream for breaking his incap which i did deserve

[sand shadow]

the magnicificent Crainerx???

@sharp meteor ahahha dw, i've been lauded one game and then shat on the next playing w/ the ape lord

[sharp meteor]

i need to talk to my healers about being angrier or something they're too nice

[sand shadow]

shouldn't take drainer too seriously

he only tries once every 10 streams anyways and does stupid shit 24/7

[fickle forge]

Dodged the trap as per usual

We wasted wall as per usual

I'm oom I need to go drink

[sand shadow]

(at 96% mana)

[rustic geyser]

yall guys got some max healing fury build ?

i got iv , btrance , conduid for iv

:D

[raw summit]

Idk i prefer damage

But that's a decent setup

[rustic geyser]

well

if i go damage

i die

[near delta]

You just make them die first

[rustic geyser]

yea... sure

and btw

anyone that plays demo lock can kys

[undone pumice]

bruin?

[near delta]

The new bruin? The chosen one

[raw summit]

Demo isnt the issue

[rustic geyser]

no

demo lock is cancer

[mystic barn]

bruin

[near delta]

Turns out Bruins are conserved like energy

[spice hornet]

trying to get my real life healer friend some CR in 2s since he hasnt played this season

every game at 2k mmr is assass/hpriest doing the MA vanish sepsis with PI

5 different assassination/healer teams in a row lmao

[near delta]

The biggest thing I hate about 2s

Is everyone has some gimmick they're trying to fuck your over with

[fickle forge]

Bruin reincarnated

[raw summit]

bruin the second

[frank knoll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/ulo32f/absoloutely_carried_and_owned_a_random_bg_last/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[near delta]

Bruin 2: The Bruining

[scarlet barn]

Bruin Forever

[near delta]

We just need a new Ndogo

[spice hornet]

@coarse glenin

[sharp meteor]

Poor fucking Bru wondering why he's getting lit up by arena minigamers

[mystic barn]

down with the ducks

nobody cares about ducks

[thick reef]

rip bruin

bro was a legend at being a traffic man

[spice hornet]

Loved his obsession with playing in traffic

[warped warren]

[undone pumice]

love him or hate him, hes asking good questions

[sand shadow]

wtf

[wheat jay]

right

though i usually drive left, cuz i have to turn left to get to home

[near delta]

😮 What's the 26th month?

[wheat jay]

oof

dd/mm/yyyy

[near delta]

Pshaw

[undone pumice]

bonzi buddy

[near delta]

Next you'll tell me they do something stupid like trade periods for commas or some shit

[wheat jay]

trade periods?

bruh im not native english speaker, wtf is even that

[near delta]

"Decimal points"

Ah maybe yall say full stop

[wheat jay]

as in, 12,5 vs 12.5?

[near delta]

Yup

[wheat jay]

12,5 in poland

dunno about other eu countries

[near delta]

I think that goes for most of them

Finally gearing up my alt warrior

Not having tier feels horrrrible

Hopefully they add a talent for fury 2 pc in 10.0.

[sand shadow]

bake it into Cruelty

[wheat jay]

I hope everything about current 4sets gets lost in time after 10.0 launches

And never returns

In any form

[sharp meteor]

god i love fury 4pc

hit 60 yesterday and have it

just tearing through people

[raw summit]

good duck

[full quiver]

[near delta]

@sharp meteor What do you do to quickly get flux on your alts?

I need like 14k I think between tier pieces and leggos

[wheat jay]

Keys?

Keys are farmable and iirc they give flux

[sharp meteor]

I have just done bgs/shuffle and treasures in zm

have gotten enough for both leggos and 4pc since yesterday

this conq/honor grind gonna kill me tho

[near delta]

Yeah that's what I'm worried about lol

[sharp meteor]

no casual way to spam faarm conq so need to do like rat arena or rbgs

[near delta]

Yeah I might honestly give rbgs a shot

[sharp meteor]

-decline decline decline-

[near delta]

I got duelist in 2s with this guy in mostly combatant gear last season and now I really regret not farming all that honor lol

[nimble jasper]

shit sucks yeah

[fickle forge]

Turns out if you have summer on you, you can really fk up somebody's HP

[nimble jasper]

you run into fully geared dhs at 1700-1800

who win off pure dam

[elder wigeon]

bro dh's will get bored and find a reason to just blur air

[raw summit]

I dont understand it man

Is blue a dps CD or what

[sharp meteor]

I don't think Havoc is particularly high apm and dh players are fried so they just press for no reason.

[elder wigeon]

havoc is lower apm than fury

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[elder wigeon]

i hate fury, I can think and play so much better playing arms but arms is so dogshit

[sharp meteor]

Yep. Now I just slam 121212 and then vene more or less off cd with the odd fear.

It's a simple life.

[elder wigeon]

so bad for the game

[undone pumice]

i hate fury cuz my binds hurt my hand when i press them so fast

[sharp meteor]

I think a few people didn't get what I meant by "fury shouldn't be good".

[undone pumice]

but im not changing my binds after so long

[sharp meteor]

hopefully they'll know after this season.

[elder wigeon]

fury should be "good" but not better than arms

[sharp meteor]

I think I have like a 80-90% wr into spriests

wish the spec was better and played more

[undone pumice]

if fury is good it means team utility dorsnt matter

[sharp meteor]

I mean dstance nerf > run at war > duel is dead

[elder wigeon]

it does matter a lot, it's just warrior sucks dick at it now

[undone pumice]

yea

[sharp meteor]

waarr was dampener last season because u were brick wall

now u just die to air

[undone pumice]

so it doesnt matter to us

[sharp meteor]

arms is good with double healer but outside of that lmao

just take infinite dam to the face

[undone pumice]

we just punch people its all we do

[elder wigeon]

warrior can be a brick wall and also not a dampener

you just have to nerf how strong warrior team utility is

[undone pumice]

trade offer

[near delta]

Warbringer charge into him "Oh shit better blur"

[elder wigeon]

they nerfed intervene once and then said fuck it lets gut warrior survivability to invalidate all team utility

[undone pumice]

nerf all arms utility
revert dstance nerf
buff overall arms survivability (give more cds or smth)

[elder wigeon]

now arms is stuck playing with hybrids only if at all

[nimble jasper]

altho it is funny

how monks can just

kill dhs

[undone pumice]

if turbo is good

[nimble jasper]

if no blur

[undone pumice]

all is well

[nimble jasper]

through everything

[sharp meteor]

Even in turb fury mostly feels better at least from what I can tell, I've only played the spec for a week

[elder wigeon]

I don't like playing turbo

[sharp meteor]

if they delete enh idk what arms does

[undone pumice]

if turbo is bad game stinky poo

[elder wigeon]

turbo is the most lame comp ever, it's actually zero fun

[sharp meteor]

shut up kitty player

[undone pumice]

turbo is one of the og warr comps to my knowledge

[elder wigeon]

kitty last season was a lame version of it

turbo isn't really the most "og" comp

[raw summit]

Im having moderate fun on tsg except locks

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor me watching tyga do commentary “if i play well and make other team look like 1500 players the stream doesnt enjoy it as much”

[elder wigeon]

WLD is the OG warrior comp

[undone pumice]

the most og comp is warrior rogue

[elder wigeon]

aren't you 13 how do you know

[undone pumice]

disgusting rat comp

14 actually

[nimble jasper]

“if i feed and make game look closer than it actually is i get praised omg clutch plays”

[raw summit]

Pika letting his Partner die for 2v1 clips

[nimble jasper]

no his partner prob dies

cuz his viewers

are 1400 players

unironically

[fickle forge]

The OG comp is warr+double healer

Don't @ me

[undone pumice]

u mean turbo

[raw summit]

Ngl kinda toxx

[sharp meteor]

so turbo

[nimble jasper]

just look at the clip of thesia multiboxing rogue mage

unto double male tauren fury rsham

[sharp meteor]

i love playing with two healers 🥰

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[undone pumice]

og warr comp is warr + bandages

[elder wigeon]

I'm pretty jaded at this point it's so goddamn hard to have fun in this expansion

[nimble jasper]

i tried 3v3

by second warlock comp

[sharp meteor]

i am having fun but my healers are drinking more and more hmm

[nimble jasper]

i was malding

[fickle forge]

Being so chad you have two healers over you

[undone pumice]

its more fun doing random shit than climbing rating

[raw summit]

Ye we stopped queueing tonight cuz perma locks

[elder wigeon]

this season has never made me drink more than any season or game

[nimble jasper]

imo the worst

[undone pumice]

we stop qing and start tanking your warrs mmr

[nimble jasper]

is when im on rogue

and some career challenger lock player

says rogue more broken

than loxk

[sharp meteor]

yeah like games have random kills one way or another and I'm like wheee

[elder wigeon]

lol

[undone pumice]

[raw summit]

https://twitter.com/waylorTV/status/1523562126131965953?t=P2AB_Li4J9MSxWIMrFo0fw&s=19

Waylor (@waylorTV)

the state of the 2s bracket is actually just so pathetic man im playing the best healing class in game and cant outheal a single bm hunter, fury warr, outlaw rogue etc shit is so boring

Twitter · May 9, 2022, 7:14 AM

[sharp meteor]

and my healer is like slamming shit

[nimble jasper]

therefore cant complain

[raw summit]

Takes?

[sharp meteor]

2s is actually unplayably unfun rn LMAO

[elder wigeon]

sub rogue is unbelievably broken

[sharp meteor]

hunter/hpriest, rogue/hpriest, sub/hpriest

[nimble jasper]

not wrong

[sharp meteor]

yeah all three rogue specs actually disgusto

[nimble jasper]

but its also hard to not mald

[raw summit]

Fury is pretty tox tbh

[nimble jasper]

into destro

[raw summit]

But it's our spec

[nimble jasper]

regardless of spec

[sharp meteor]

fury dies tho

so it's chill

rogue can't die

[raw summit]

Ye

[elder wigeon]

that's actually such a dogshit take, kid should play tbc

[undone pumice]

2s is only fun when youre banging people through muktiple defensives

[raw summit]

I stg outlul

Doesnt die

[nimble jasper]

it doesnt

if enemy team has a brain

they go healer

[undone pumice]

rogue as a class

[sharp meteor]

channel your inner mud and kill people through everything in the opener

[nimble jasper]

which i swear is also why hunter is easy win as outlaw

[undone pumice]

is just so fucking aids in a pvp enviorment

[nimble jasper]

cuz the second a hunter

sees a rogue on enemy team

[sharp meteor]

i am actually gonna setup another warr after this one, i wonder what race

[nimble jasper]

they insta tunnel you

all game

for some reason

[undone pumice]

i do when i play with the random assass rogue who applied first in lft

lfg

[sharp meteor]

tossup between dark iron and worgen

[elder wigeon]

I wanna be a venthyr troll warrior with sephuz, hello 4 second novas

[raw summit]

Dork iron

[nimble jasper]

so many assass rogues

trinket first cc

[undone pumice]

mfw i win more with random dds than actual healers

[nimble jasper]

and die in the next stun

[sharp meteor]

i was thinking dwarf or did because racial into jungle or assa seems quite nice

[undone pumice]

cuz ee just go haha badge + orc + all cds = bonk

[sharp meteor]

but i wanted to meme on people with 200% movement speed conq banner as worgen hmm

maybe that amount of speed is overkill

[undone pumice]

its not

[sharp meteor]

actually i need to see how much speed it is with bounding

[undone pumice]

imagine casually outrunning a rogue bro

[sharp meteor]

bladestorm at like 230% speed

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor https://mobile.twitter.com/waylorTV/status/1523572159657877505

Waylor (@waylorTV)

@KahnMarco yea short arena matches are fun when a team works together and score a nice kill not when some bozo bm hunter with 8 different keybinds for cobra shot kills your teammate after missing 5 traps 😂😂

Twitter · May 9, 2022, 7:54 AM

real

[sharp meteor]

yeah my hunter was like 2370 and i didn't rly trap

[raw summit]

real and true

[sharp meteor]

i just did pve dam to one guy

[nimble jasper]

ngl

outlaw into bm hunters

feels so good

[sharp meteor]

mash cobra shot unironically

[nimble jasper]

just running over this braindead spec

[undone pumice]

i cannot be made to ever even go into the char select to make a hunter let alone play one in pvp

[sharp meteor]

oh is that

i queued into him

funny

yeah i ate his rogue yum

[undone pumice]

that class gives you osteoporisis

[nimble jasper]

outlaw kinda wrecks bm tho

you just watch his pets

hit into evasion

and giggle

[sharp meteor]

it destroys it even if you dont hit into evasion

just nothing you can do except MAYBE mog the healer

[sharp meteor]

if u have a hpriest

[nimble jasper]

every time i ran into a hunter on outlaw

they trinket

and petsac piss

just have 0 idea

[sharp meteor]

i queued into saul/dorito like 4 times too

[nimble jasper]

when to press

[sharp meteor]

sad that i didnt get conduits on hunter

[fickle forge]

Solution to not get one tapped is simply to Q with an Hpala, so you can live in ignorance 😎 👍

[undone pumice]

can u even see spec of ppl applying to lfg

[raw summit]

ye

[undone pumice]

oh lmao

[sharp meteor]

half hour wintergrasp for like 500 honor kill me

[undone pumice]

i just stopped caring after the 200 mmr tax disc priest incident

[raw summit]

that 3s disc was good

[undone pumice]

yea

but the 2s disc

[fickle forge]

Doomerhold

[raw summit]

fuck yes dood

:D

[undone pumice]

whats there to look forward to

[nimble jasper]

people who play disc

[undone pumice]

new talent trees and more furrys

[nimble jasper]

literally

why

[undone pumice]

new talent trees that will be coinflip oj broken or other broken

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor when streamer shares my disdain

of queueing with rdruids

[undone pumice]

and dracthyr yiffing in orgrimmar portal room

[fickle forge]

Miss Troma

[nimble jasper]

I think the number of “want to throw my keyboard out the window” moments playing with rando healers

is 80% with rdruid players

[undone pumice]

me when i sit in an uniterrupted root for 10 seconds and healer says

[sharp meteor]

lfg rdruid is kind of suffering nowadays

[undone pumice]

why no intervene?

[sharp meteor]

i just brain off shuffle until my healers are on

[nimble jasper]

when the lfg healer

lets me sit a full fear

and asks

why no kick on mg

[undone pumice]

me when

healer doesnt dispell freezing trap

[nimble jasper]

or yeah

when i get rooted

full

[undone pumice]

until its 1.5s left

[nimble jasper]

and he decides to run with enemy team

to opposite pillar

and asks why no help

rdruid players

make me wanna get a lobotomy

[undone pumice]

me when healer casually forgets to heal me and focuses on dpsing

[nimble jasper]

never happens to me

just the classic

stun kill target

when i have no setup

now hes on dr

oh look

his wall is back

when dr ends

gg

[undone pumice]

cyclone kill target durinf banner reck

[nimble jasper]

idk

lfg is just a bad time

if not queueing with an hpries

even then

[raw summit]

cyclone low is aight

[near delta]

Fair point, but also RMP tears

[raw summit]

but feels bad

[nimble jasper]

rsham players too

i pop wall

and shit

slt

????

the

fuck

[undone pumice]

it aint

[nimble jasper]

lfg rdruids dont cyclone low

they just waste stun drs

for no reason

[undone pumice]

when kill target cds are like 5 sec away and hes on 7% and then he cyclones my kill target

[nimble jasper]

the worst is priest rogue

[undone pumice]

bruhest of moments

[nimble jasper]

like its the most scripted fear

chastise fear

the guy i didnt kidney

????

[near delta]

Better than ashran at least.

[undone pumice]

ashran

[sharp meteor]

Ashran is honestly fine. The honor from frags is good, too.

[undone pumice]

just go kill mobs better way tk spend time

than

the meat grinder

[sharp meteor]

1300 conq for my first wep gonna kms

[raw summit]

if it didnt lag so much

itd be aight

[undone pumice]

epix bgs as a whole

try to get above 100 fps (impossible)

[nimble jasper]

idk what is with rdruid players

so many of them

are beyond cooked

[sharp meteor]

cus they sit a mile back and let their teammate 1v2

if it doesn't work trade up and find another teammate

[nimble jasper]

also when i die to rm in opener

[sharp meteor]

repeat until 2100-2400 2s

[nimble jasper]

while my healer

isnt in cc

????

[undone pumice]

they are actively roleplaying on discord mlp communities while playing

[nimble jasper]

bruh moment

[near delta]

I just get 15 FPS the entire time

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

rdruid players

rshams just

are useless after dwayne

mostly

[undone pumice]

rshams are just

mws are also just

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

i just lose pts if i play with lfg

and it isnt an hpriest

tbh

[undone pumice]

i lose braincells when i play this game

any mode

[nimble jasper]

had an rdruid

who doesnt just insta clone warrior on his banner reck

[undone pumice]

people backpedaling off a cliff in m+
rdruids in lfg
apply to guild wait 2 months get denied

[nimble jasper]

after i got his trinket from a double stun

literally inting

was on his healer too

most obvious play

cc dps on all his cds

[undone pumice]

too high iq

thats why everyone disarms me when i disarm them

and im using nothing

[nimble jasper]

then he says

[undone pumice]

[nimble jasper]

i ran in too fast

while he was in clone range

[undone pumice]

[nimble jasper]

ok bud

i legit got his trinket on his cd pop for free

and you dont just cuck his go entirely

and try to heal through banner reck

[undone pumice]

ok buddy

[nimble jasper]

idk sometimes i just wanna test shit

on alts

and get tilted beyond belief

[undone pumice]

ppl in lfg are just like

either scared or all in everything all the time

[nimble jasper]

scared

but run in at the worst times

[undone pumice]

this

[nimble jasper]

idk its particularly bad

with rdruid players

male tauren with no mog is instant avoid imo

runner up being troll with random generated name

[undone pumice]

z troll druids

now theyre just as bad

maybe a little better

especially female ztroll

[compact heron]

so u guys think fury will be viable next season as well since we will still have tier sets

[raw summit]

how should we know

[sharp meteor]

it was viable last season

to everything short of r1 anyways

nobody knows what will happen between now and next season, or next season

[full quiver]

😂

Did you guys not get a crystall ball with your wow sub??

[sharp meteor]

wait which abilities use 2hspecial animation

[spice hornet]

I can’t wait til that conduit that gives them move speed out of form is gone

[sharp meteor]

Bro why doesn't that shit have a cd

Sham fast wolf is like minute cd

[spice hornet]

no idea but i hate their kit in 2s so much

Like that Dempy guy

2.5k in 2s hardstuck 1900 in 3s

[nimble jasper]

dinoe only rdruid ever felt

was hard to play vs

[elder wigeon]

dinoe goes for restealths per second

[lucid walrus]

check back in a year

literally impossible to tell

[elder wigeon]

if we're not playing dragonflight in a year I might neck myself

this expac only gets worse as time goes on

[nimble jasper]

courage just seems boosted

by playing with classes that wont let you get within 30 yds of him

tho from what I heard kubzy on rdruid

is just unwinnable unless rdruid is giga shit

[sharp meteor]

wait until outlaw playrate triples over the next few weeks

[nimble jasper]

surprised it hasnt already

altho if they still do pve tunings outlaw might get buffed again

[raw summit]

[sharp meteor]

am i fried or does only femorc not use 2hspecial for slam/hamstring pls somebody tell me im not insane

[nimble jasper]

outlaw still gigashit in pve lol so they might buff it again tbf

[sharp meteor]

pls no

[raw summit]

needed more than 5%

imo remove some shit off of the cdr crack

and then outlul is aight

also pve buffs not for pvp

[nimble jasper]

yeah

idk

they're not aware outlaw is good ig

tbf much of the playerbase doesnt either

[raw summit]

i hope a dev queues into one

and gets to not play the game for 5 mins

[nimble jasper]

so many people dont understand

where outlaw's dmg is frmo

[raw summit]

where is it from tho

[nimble jasper]

its just alot of consistent dam

atm

[raw summit]

what exactly does coordinated assault do anyways

[nimble jasper]

if they ever fix the 4p bug where your kyrian blue points get whiffed into the void

so you cant actually unload 7pt dispatches into your kill target

[nimble jasper]

buffs the hunter+his pet's dmg

iirc

[raw summit]

so its avatar-esque

[nimble jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=266779/coordinated-assault

also higher chance of kill command reset

[raw summit]

reset chance

[nimble jasper]

dont kc uses

reset your bombs

[raw summit]

makes sense to disarm on it then

[nimble jasper]

i feel the dumbest part rn of hunter

is just no icd

on flayed shot procs

[nimble jasper]

oh and craven should be removed

[raw summit]

friend sent me this

[nimble jasper]

🙂

good thing warlock can do that to you

w/o setup

[raw summit]

ye warlock for us mostly was

wow i died on half hp

[nimble jasper]

coiled

bolt

[raw summit]

or hgiher

[nimble jasper]

shadowfury bolt

[raw summit]

kinda cringe

[nimble jasper]

infernal proc stun

bolt

blasphemy stun

bolt

SL lock is worse

cuz they can bolt 2 people in a coil

for half their hp

instead of just 1

[raw summit]

ye its so weird for healers

since you need more juice to heal smth like that

[nimble jasper]

blasphemy should not stun

and instant bolt should be nerfed by 50%

[raw summit]

more

:)

[nimble jasper]

wel yeah

lock players are also cringe

anytime you call them out on being busted they just deflect

to rmp

[raw summit]

mage being part of both of the most toxic comps is just hillarious

[elder wigeon]

rmp is still brain dead, fuck 10 goes up in a row, live forever as long as their priest has a mana bar and get 1 semi-decent go and you lose

[nimble jasper]

so is mlx just

turreting mid of map

basically unkillable

[elder wigeon]

MLX is not as broken as RMP

[raw summit]

but equally annoying

[nimble jasper]

i mean c9 mlx actually plays proper

and uses their offensive cds

to not let you go

[raw summit]

oh theyre going?

gna pop against

gl

mlx go > ur shit

[nimble jasper]

if it was still chanimal snutz mlx

they’d prob take 1st

in awc

[raw summit]

cant properly judge but swapxy seems really good too

man how do i mistype this badly

[nimble jasper]

for na teams at least

idk what kawhi gonna pull next tourney

[raw summit]

do you think we see less blizo wari next tournemnt

cuz war kinda ass

[nimble jasper]

power men got it good this season with thugonomics and destro’s current state

maybe

[raw summit]

outlaw rmp

omega tank and damp em

[spice hornet]

Rmp take too long to kill it’s unbelievable

And why does sub have infinite dance uptime it seems

[sharp meteor]

they haven't nerfed the cdr talent in pvp for some reason

so yeah they just have infinite charges

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=238104/enveloping-shadows

2 charges of dance, 2 charges of step

wheee

[nimble jasper]

that has existed

all of sl

just kyrian

makes it worse

[sharp meteor]

it does

[sharp meteor]

i mean

[nimble jasper]

big dam+more cdr

[sharp meteor]

it has existed for a long time it's just

like why is dance always up

[nimble jasper]

dunno

cringe design

too much shadowstrike spam in pve

in legion you only bursted every 30 secs

in pve with dfa build

now you unironically chain 3 dances in a row

@sharp meteor sub had less dance uptime in bfa

when enveloping gave 3 dance charges

really makes you think

[sharp meteor]

mmm didn't see many subs in bfa

missing those days

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

pref getting w keyed by assa

[nimble jasper]

was just an eu thing

howton played bote major mastery proc corruptions

with unbound force minor

just line up an evis for 1/2 someones hp

think pikapala played ret sub hpal to r1 in bfa with avidance too

[raw summit]

ye he always does ret rog

with avi

[nimble jasper]

i remember him saying

[raw summit]

at least has for sl

[nimble jasper]

he thinks ret war

is giga boring to play

[raw summit]

idk kinda is

[nimble jasper]

i do wonder

[raw summit]

pikas last stream i caught was big sad pre catalyst

cuz ZERO tier on his guys

[nimble jasper]

does kungarna intend to play rmp

for every eu cup

[raw summit]

dont they have 4 people

[nimble jasper]

yes

2 healers

[raw summit]

whats the point

if mehhx gets sick or what

[nimble jasper]

psure whaazz said

cuz mehh is the best priest in this game

and its not even close

raiku plays mage+dh but mage will never be bad

[raw summit]

whaazz could bring out boomie

and kyr bom + dh cringe people down

but thats never better than rmp

[nimble jasper]

idk think he did say if awc format allowed 5 man roster

they’d have swapxy

[raw summit]

swaxy raiku meh mlp

:)

[nimble jasper]

sk gaming prob most rounded roster

besides no one plays rogue

[raw summit]

1 comp roster kinda sussy

[nimble jasper]

who?

kungarna?

[raw summit]

ye

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

they’re the best rmp world but still

[raw summit]

but their rmp being kasu jungle

so prolly no need to change

ever

[nimble jasper]

i mean i doubt

mage+other melee is ever gonna be better

so likely 100% rmp lockin

[warm pollen]

is necro arms or necro fury the best for 2v2s?

ive been playing so bad lately as fury on 2s, can't land kills lol

[spice hornet]

Fury feels a lot better in the hunter rogue bracket because the hunter rogue bracket is a lot about positioning and uptime when you can spam crushing blow charge with 40% ms on top of faster damp

[sharp meteor]

fury feels much better

venth in particular

just machine gun damage into somebody

[warm pollen]

ive been trying necro fury

is venthyr still viable ? lol

[spice hornet]

Venthyr fury is good but the snare suppression from the necro banner is insane

[elder wigeon]

necro just offers significantly more burst, venthyr is a better damp option but games don't last more than 2 minutes anymore

[sharp meteor]

ya killing most teams by second conq every game but haven't played to high mmr 2s and don't plan to

especially what with outlaw popping up more

[elder wigeon]

2's and 3's

games just last a few minutes

high burst is king

least favorite meta of all time

[sharp meteor]

actually ye all recent 3s games also end on second conq lmao

[elder wigeon]

wins/losses are unsatisfying

[sharp meteor]

ya killing people through all their buttons with pi/reck/conq is funny

another week of no tuning so wheeee

[nimble jasper]

dw they nerfed normal jailer

cuz casuals cant stop falling in holes

[sharp meteor]

i like how they fuck up a patch or expansion and think that the best thing to do is borderline abandon it

[nimble jasper]

NA way

abandon responsibility

[sharp meteor]

then again most people sub play for a few weeks then quit each patch

maybe buy a shop mount

[nimble jasper]

yeah

or giga casuals who dont raid past normal

[indigo barn]

Watch as PvP nerfs come in and fury is nerfed because the blue and purple man found the brown man a little scary

No meme I feel they will put a cd on crushing blow charge

[elder wigeon]

might as well be, it's buggy as fuck

[indigo barn]

True

[warm pollen]

whats the best healer for warrs in 2v2

priests? or dru?

or shammys

[wet scarab]

every night I decide to give this season another shot I queue and it's RMP city and I just log out again

not even capping anymore

[sharp meteor]

feral rdruid probs

idk pick one they all fine

rsham randomly dies though

[spice hornet]

rez leggo needs to be removed man

[sharp meteor]

lot of stuff could be tweaked

sike conq uncapped see you in 5 months

[spice hornet]

so tired of killing hpriests into rmp/mlp and they justcome back and still win because of the leggo

[sharp meteor]

i feel like most mages don't know what fury does yet

keep bodying them like a minute in

[full quiver]

@elfin surge

[sharp meteor]

hate it here

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor man

i love killing dhs who go on other side of the map

of their healer who has no trinket

ahahahaha

[spice hornet]

lool

[full quiver]

we killed their healer as jg

[sharp meteor]

ya love those

[nimble jasper]

I mean their mistake

was queueing it w/ disc

not holy

[glass orchid]

After all these comps I’ve played

TSG is the only one that feels remotely decent into spell cleave

[lucid walrus]

sham probably your weakest option

dunno for sure though. haven't gotten my feet wet w/ 2s in a minute

[glass orchid]

Best healer is by far nf priest I think

For 2s

[sharp meteor]

cdr on reck make my tiny brain hurt

[glass orchid]

With full uptime you could have like 30 seconds of banner swell with PI

And cdr on reck means you pop reck again by the time your first one end lmao

[full quiver]

How does disc fury beat survival and outlaw tho

I guess fury anything probably loses lol

[sharp meteor]

I could see Fury running over bad Survs at least

[last prairie]

Double time warbringer reckless abandon bloodrage u are unkitable

Or what is the problem with surv

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, ooga booga slam dam

[mystic barn]

deez

🦀

[indigo barn]

Sub 2100 survivals do shit the bed when angry man won't stop hitting them

[nimble jasper]

prob not playing with disc for one

idk low rated survs are giga shit

[sharp meteor]

bloodrage actually so good into surv and mage it's unreal

[nimble jasper]

ill rando get petsac

for doing nothing

[sharp meteor]

it's like oh fuck oh fuck how'd that break

[nimble jasper]

but existing

vs sub 2100 hunters

[indigo barn]

Running into feral/Boomie with BR really messes there heads up

Especially boomies

[lean burrow]

yo guys, I have plater addon in which I ticked the options "show offensive/defensive cds from players" but it still didn't show buffs like karma and greater fade until I manually added those to tracklist

anyone knows if there's a way to add all relevant buffs to plater?

[sharp meteor]

probably but better to do it yourself imo

filter out the clutter you don't want to see etc

[lean burrow]

yeah that's what i've been doing last few days

takes a lot of time, especially since I don't know all classes that well

[rain grove]

So recently ive been playing Fury resto druid 2s with a friend of mine and we are really struggling against assa rogue hpriest. Any advice for this matchup?

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/lalt-f4-gif-20750581

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lalt-f4-gif-20750581

[fickle forge]

Have your Rdruid be the fastest dispeller in the west, and then pray HoTs and wall is strong enough for the 2nd Sepsis

[jolly light]

haven't played in a while, trying to gear my warrior but it is horrific

dead within seconds of entering any fight at ~230 item level

[raw summit]

You can get 259 honor gear

230 is just way to low at this point of the season

[jolly light]

yeah working towards it but it is painful, i feel like dead weight in BGs 😄

literally dying to a rapid fire before my charge reaches a hunter

[raw summit]

Yep theres nothing much you can do there

[jolly light]

tbh i wonder if it's better to get some PvE gear first and then use that to jump into arena

[raw summit]

Well youd have the stamina

But not the vers

[mystic barn]

deez

[undone pumice]

deez

[warped warren]

broblem with mage is that they are nf with the 90% slow on rootbreak

[elder wigeon]

sadge

[undone pumice]

resune average mana crystal pfp

[elder wigeon]

nah it's the newest monuments album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i6nvi5wh5s

[fickle forge]

From one toxic game to another

[elder wigeon]

i can't get RMPed or MLX'ed in league

[fickle forge]

But you can get Rengar'd 😎 👍

[elder wigeon]

not even close to the same problem

[undone pumice]

you can get gangplanked

[elder wigeon]

again, not even remotely close to the misery that is retail

[mystic barn]

liar

I am an akali main now and forever

[elfin surge]

😏

[jolly light]

i am reading about a 0.25 sec grace period for bladestorm, is it actually feasible to pull that off in practice?

[elder wigeon]

sorta

[elfin surge]

what like bladestorming cc but also dring yourself?

[scarlet barn]

Yea

It is possible

[elder wigeon]

you gotta be young as fuck to do it on reaction

[scarlet barn]

But reaction time needs to be quick and also you need to be good at reading enemy moves

[wheat jay]

Its more of a read rather than pure reaction

[scarlet barn]

Sometimes breaking full kidney feels so good

But you cant consistently pull it off

[elfin surge]

for some reason it doesnt work with disarm

[elder wigeon]

more often than not I'm just bladestorming and they db into it, rather than bladestorming the animation

you can time a bladestorm on a casted cc pretty easy in terms of "reacting"

[scarlet barn]

It worked with bs procced from reck while using signet but you need to be even faster with that

Not sure how it is now

[elder wigeon]

I haven't proced a bladestorm while disarmed in a while, idk if it got patched

[scarlet barn]

Was a thing season or two ago. I didnt experience it this one

So cant be sure

[elder wigeon]

I've done it enough times that I'd have to be insanely unlucky to have it not happen, it's a coin flip every time, I've done it probably a half dozen times towards the end of a disarm just to see if it can be done

every time it doesn't work, I didn't pay attention to that if it's the case that it can't proc bladestorm, that it's high-key meta as fuck to reck the last second of disarm to force an avatar proc

if I think of it later I might test it out

[thick reef]

in pve i know u can’t proc bs if your weps are broken

so assumedly if you are unable to cast bs for any reason normally, itll force ava proc

can’t confirm for arena tho

[elder wigeon]

likely that might be what's happening

[undone pumice]

i dont appreciate getting hit by the equivalent of 10 chaos bolts

however i main the champ so i dont have to deal with it

[kind sail]

Guys, how is the fury vs DH matchup?

[dark sparrow]

W key eachother, the first to blink, dies

[elfin surge]

you cant

I tested it

if you proc bladestorm with signet while disarmed it literally doesnt do anything

wasted lego

[elfin surge]

sketchy

Either you get hammered all game or the dh gets hammered

[undone pumice]

so mud

do u think signet is a good default?

[fickle forge]

Don't listen to him, I saw him one shot multiple DHs on 1700 mmr, it's a fury warr win

[elfin surge]

yea

signet is super good

deathmaker also very good

[undone pumice]

i dont really know if

signet or dm rn

[elfin surge]

i think i need to move my unity tho

the unity neck conflicts with misshapen

[undone pumice]

i have unity bracers

[elfin surge]

i might do unity ring

[undone pumice]

unity ring kinda sucks

if u have signet ring like me

[elfin surge]

double ring

fuck it

[elfin surge]

both are good man

i like signet

play what u want

[undone pumice]

i know both are good but im kinda strapped on cash so idk which to get 291

prob gonna do signet

[elfin surge]

[lean burrow]

is there a way to remove the text "players remaining" at the top of the screen?

[undone pumice]

[lean burrow]

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