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mystic barn
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as a class with a million small hits

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and doing goes with slappy

sand shadow
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slappy is dodgeable?

mystic barn
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And seeing the hp bar move from 100% to 95% over 10 seconds

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Itโ€™s weird

fickle forge
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I'll run you another test today QCP

mystic barn
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Nah donโ€™t bother

sand shadow
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I thought slappy is not parriable

fickle forge
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Prefered class you'd want?

mystic barn
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You keep saying you will but you wonโ€™t

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Big cba

fickle forge
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My mans, I've been occupied keksquad

sand shadow
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so edgy, jesus xD relax

fickle forge
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Women and all that

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Disappeared into Copewatch

mystic barn
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nmp

sand shadow
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I can help testing, but i'm on EU

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best way is a wargame, no doubt will be left then

undone pumice
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when wargame return

fickle forge
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Now

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You can do em' now

undone pumice
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where

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w h e r e

fickle forge
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You get this

sand shadow
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holy crap

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someone updated MoveAnything????

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Do I dare update

fickle forge
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It's a trap

undone pumice
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wtf

sand shadow
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holyPogness

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nah fuck it i'll wait

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cba risking it in case it fucks up my settings and such

undone pumice
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war game helper

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broken

warped warren
sand shadow
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yea wargame helper works, ive tried it myself (was a few months ago tho)

undone pumice
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wtf

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so it just puts you in a custom arena

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?

fickle forge
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Straight up

sand shadow
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@undone pumice yeah, but you need at least 4 people total sadge

undone pumice
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big eitherway

sand shadow
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wdym d00d

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its been in the game for ages

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this is from Dec 2010

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also works w/ BGs btw

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they just kept messing w/ the /slash commands for it for some reason

warped warren
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wargames are from cata, yes

undone pumice
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i thought it was like brawls

warped warren
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xd

undone pumice
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idk i dont play pvp i just level random characters to 30 and delete them

sand shadow
sharp meteor
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i remember meeting people like that and it's like why brother

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they just level chars then collect shit because group content scary

undone pumice
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nah like

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i just

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suffer in pvp

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cause i cant beat my head aginst a brick wall and win for once in my life

mystic barn
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teapot you should coach lassan

undone pumice
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no i hate tea

sharp meteor
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angry duck

undone pumice
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i prefer orange juice

raw summit
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duck-verse

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id take the coaching keks

undone pumice
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coach phil and he coaches me

raw summit
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although i should prolly just record and put into review channel

undone pumice
raw summit
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all i do is yell "you have X"

undone pumice
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you have rally or wot

sharp meteor
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my coms are just boltboltbolt venenvenvenve

near delta
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Been playing WMPriest. It's soooo fun.

jaunty furnace
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I never know who to go on in 2s

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Healer or dps

raw summit
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depends on class

sharp meteor
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idk think less and do damage

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figure rest out later

fickle forge
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@sand shadow @mystic barn Stabbed Artji into Blur 200 times, I come out with 58.3% dodge chance

sharp meteor
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ah yes 20

mystic barn
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20

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๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

sharp meteor
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can u just not post about stats again ty

fickle forge
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Means we used Blur 20 times

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My bad fellas

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Got in about 200 hits total

jaunty furnace
raw summit
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what hunter

fickle forge
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So take it as you want, but it's a lot closer to 50% dodge than it is to 80% dodge

warped warren
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surely

mystic barn
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and this is why a sample size of 200 hits is garbage

sharp meteor
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just don't acknowledge him

fickle forge
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It's what you can get

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Unless you wanna sit and spend a couple hours on it yourself to reach a proper sample size

jaunty furnace
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Why do people from LFG always leave after 1 loss lol

sharp meteor
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because easier to reroll partners than invest in one

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also if i join a group with somebody half my exp on an alt and they write me a dissertation after they int the game im just leaving and not reading it

undone pumice
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k then

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somebody have a dh here?

sharp meteor
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yer

fickle forge
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@wheat jay

undone pumice
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ok we test it yes?

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when

fickle forge
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NA?

sharp meteor
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i already tested it

undone pumice
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eu

sharp meteor
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it's 80%

fickle forge
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Sure

jaunty furnace
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what test?

undone pumice
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dh blur dodge %

fickle forge
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You got data Teapot?

sharp meteor
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wym data over a ton of 1v1s and arena matches blur effectively makes u immune to melee goes outside of stuns

fickle forge
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Ah okay

sharp meteor
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we tested because as turb we'd swap dh with blur and do nothing

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we're both like hm this seems higher than 50

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since then we just treat blur like evasion

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and hit mooner/fury or w/e when blur is up

full quiver
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Blur bug is I'm arena

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Not open world

sharp meteor
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it's in pvp

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should be world as well

undone pumice
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all pvp combat is treated as arena tho

fickle forge
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But that's literally not confirmation that it's bugged?

sharp meteor
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karg do u play with a dh or something

undone pumice
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perhaps he does

mystic barn
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no heโ€™s just dumb

full quiver
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Haven't talked about it in forever bit iirc the consensus in dh disc was arena

sharp meteor
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it's bugged and idc what it means for balance but it's bugged so here we are

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i mean dh players didn't notice until months later despite playing that one class

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even more fried than the bm hunters who don't know conc shot is refreshed by cobra

full quiver
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Not true

sharp meteor
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blur = off without stun

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that's it

full quiver
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It was mentioned really early on by lemi

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A couple people knew and wouldn't tell anyone lol

sharp meteor
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yeah lemi and i both mentoined it and people thought it was a meme or something

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like haha 100% dodge right haha

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but like actually

mystic barn
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feelycraft

fickle forge
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It's literally the biggest feelycraft moment rn

mystic barn
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yea kinda how warrior is f tier

warped warren
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its actually scientifically proven that dh has 100% dodge

fickle forge
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I feel for Troma man

undone pumice
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its scientifically proven that warriors are a myth

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they dont exist

sharp meteor
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i like dh as a target now so much when blur is burned somewhere

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fury cranks so hard that they do just randomly die

undone pumice
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fury is what rmp players think warrior damage was

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"ur entire rotation at all times is like combust"

sharp meteor
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kill a mage from 60% with a rampage into crushing blows

near delta
undone pumice
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best quote

near delta
sharp meteor
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oh yeah i mean if they don't have blur when u have every button up they do disappear but so does anything else

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cds last a long time so if u can dodge incap/stun with bladestorm then they'll just die

near delta
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Ah yeah true

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I finally ran into a kittle cleave in the wild

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It was bean on feral carrying this 1350 arms lol

fickle forge
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Did they win?

near delta
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No we destroyed the warrior

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Ran into them a couple times same result bean did cray damage as feral ofc

sharp meteor
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all the 3k s2 kitty players floating around 2100-2200 now ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

fickle forge
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Kitty cleave after kyrian nerfs

sharp meteor
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might still be decent as necro kitter but like you'll actually have to kind of play the game

full quiver
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Bean is back on retai??

fickle forge
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But then again, if you play necro kitty, why not just play with another melee that has equal utility and more dmg?

full quiver
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Like survival hunter

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๐Ÿ˜

lean vortex
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Hey guys, was hoping for alittle help if possible. just picking my warr backup since 9.1. kyrian arms. I've been going through old posts trying to figure this out. Just caught up on storyline and am ready to craft both leggos. what is the best slot? I see people are going for slots that create sockets but it seems thats also partly to keep tier slots open for drops/vault? Im gonig to create my 4set through the catalyst so im not really worried about that. That being said would socket slots still be best or slots that will have higher stats? Im going enduring blow/unity to start and cant come to a decision of what slot to craft them in

raw summit
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Go enduring Belt and unity whereever is cheap and not tier

lean vortex
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thanks for the response, appreciate it!

near delta
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I've seen snutz occasionally too

full quiver
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Used to watch beans when I first started arena to learn feral

wheat jay
full quiver
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3/50

wheat jay
sharp meteor
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just realized I've been 37/50 for 3 weeks

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where does the time go

fickle forge
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If it didn't go into WoW, then it was time well spent

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๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘

undone pumice
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ideally went to benching

worthy fern
old trail
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What are the best 2's/3's comps for fury?

raw summit
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3s with uh is good

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2s is a bit sketch since that's hunter bracket but hpal or hpriest works

old trail
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Hunter bracket?

nimble jasper
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surv is the best 2s dps

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by far

raw summit
old trail
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Darn ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

raw summit
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There is absolutely nothing you can do if they play it correctly

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Which they usually dont

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So Banner and run over em

old trail
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Is it easier to climb as fury or unholy?

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or frost I guess

raw summit
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Uh kinda doesnt have dam outside of limb

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And frost in 2s is miserable

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So fury all the way

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Imo

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4p fury with ra jush pve's people

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And the fact you can use regen in stuns makes it a bit more forgiving/IV also helps

old trail
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Yeah.. both my toons have 4pc

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But dk is way more geared

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I wanna get both of them to 1.8k at the least for the set

raw summit
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I mean no harm in trying both

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Oh ye for sure

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1800 is doable for both

old trail
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The elite sets look really good

nimble jasper
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๐Ÿ™‚

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fury generally better

raw summit
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I swear the dk is the only good one

nimble jasper
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you also cannot kill hunters as unholy

raw summit
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All other elite Sets are lfr tint with shiny

nimble jasper
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as most my dk friends say

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literally non target

old trail
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Yeah to kill a hunter I gotta use all my cds, make them pop turtle

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then wait it out

raw summit
old trail
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and by the time its done I have no damage

mystic barn
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ya ofc u cant kill hunters as unholy

old trail
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war has shattering throw

raw summit
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They could feign every apoc

mystic barn
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its practically impossible even when theyre bad

old trail
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yep

raw summit
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Cant shatter turtle

mystic barn
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they feign everything you put onto them

raw summit
old trail
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wait what

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You cant shatter turtle?

mystic barn
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no

raw summit
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Nop

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But bop

nimble jasper
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he said hunter healer is unwinnable

old trail
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wtf

nimble jasper
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unless they throw

old trail
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You can shatter bop but not turtle?

raw summit
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Ye im not doubting just wanted almighty corpser opinion

raw summit
mystic barn
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healer is only target if ur against hunter and they are all hpriests

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only win if they blatantly throw

old trail
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is it worth shattering fleshcraft shield?

raw summit
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Depends on the class

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As fury generally just going through felt better

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30/40k is nothing

old trail
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kk

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Is being venthyr trolling? Or is it perfectly viable with 4pc

mystic barn
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oh if ur only going for 1.8k just play either u prefer

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1800 is like 20-50 games

raw summit
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Fury is Spam crushing blow for the most time

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Venthyr is fine yea

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Better than NF and kyr imo

old trail
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kk

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How come I struggle to kill locks as my dk but I tear through them as fury?

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Is it just cause of spell reflecting chaos bolts?

raw summit
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Dk damage in pvp is weird

old trail
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no army sadga

raw summit
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The 1 Minute build with badge blight and empower is kinda cool

mystic barn
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warlock can get shredded by dk easily

raw summit
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Slappy hand top dam seramore
Meaningful choice seramore

mystic barn
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up until you dont have a grip for drain life spam

near delta
raw summit
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Im bad at dk so i have slappers carry me

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Slap badge press all shit hailmary

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Vs calculated crushing blow Spam as fury gladge

mystic barn
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badge for unholy sadge

raw summit
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I felt like it was aight

near delta
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I started playing pvp as frost dk s1, and I had no idea wtf I was doing lol

raw summit
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But been forced aegis a lot

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Fdk in 2s makes me wanna commit rope

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Doesnt do dam seramore (also skill issue)

elder wigeon
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just spam chains of skill until deep damp and spam 20k oblits = profit

mystic barn
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simply play twd in 2s or play with nf hpal

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end the game in 20s

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or die before deep damp

raw summit
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Oh btw qcp

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I got on my DK and did the charge deadzone thing into warrior

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Very very nice gladge

mystic barn
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yea its great until you do it vs fury warrior where its useless

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crushing skill or whatever

raw summit
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The people i face on dk arent skilled enough to have 4p

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So it works

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Must be incredibly frustrating for them and that makes me happy

mystic barn
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i thought this week was week 4 of the 4pc food stamps

raw summit
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Next reset is

mystic barn
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ahh ok

raw summit
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Then everyone dumb enough to step a foot into zm will have it

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Except me cuz no flux on altseramore

sharp meteor
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can't wait for tuesday when 80% of the ladder is destro/hpriest/x instead of only 60%

raw summit
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I found another 4p assa

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A lot less oneshotty now

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Kinda cool

old trail
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Noob question: How do you guys use ignore pain? Whenever you can or nah?

raw summit
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If im dying

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As fury rarely

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As Arms on CD tbh

sharp meteor
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as arms basically off cd unless trading very favorably (bursting)

old trail
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kk

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I did some solo shuffles and skirms and went "Huh.. Im either already dead or dont need to use it"

elder wigeon
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ignore pain as fury is only when you're down tremendously, ignore pain is just rotation as arms because if you don't, you're just dead on the floor

old trail
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Makes sense. What are some classes/specs I can easily kill as fury vs ones that just hard counter me

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, as fury

raw summit
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Rdruid you can eat with ra

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Essentially dont try kill Outlaw

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Wont happen

old trail
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Fury tears through Rdruids?!

raw summit
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Ye

old trail
raw summit
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RA + tier

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They cant run

old trail
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True

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cause they always shift chains of skill on my dk

raw summit
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Ye they really struggle into us now

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Since we get uptime very likely

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With root break honor talent charge leap and RA

sharp meteor
old trail
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Badge or insig as fury venthyr?

raw summit
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Im defaulting insigia now

sharp meteor
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they're both fine

raw summit
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But idk for sure

sharp meteor
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depends on win condition and your loadout

lucid walrus
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insig feels good for the haste

sharp meteor
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badge reliable big go

raw summit
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I have omega haste without it.. Hmm

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At like 33

lucid walrus
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badge is some pretty square burst

raw summit
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33 with i mean

sharp meteor
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battlemaster, insignia, badge, aegis all seem dece

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i usually just swap between all but badge

raw summit
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No maledict garms /s

old trail
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Does fury full send on verse or nah?

raw summit
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Ye

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Pvp gear with Versa is a must since 4p kinda tanks vers

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Less important than last season but u probably still want 30+

old trail
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kk

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Doing stuff with 8% verse was very squishy lol

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30% haste good to get to before dumping the rest into mastery?

elder wigeon
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you want 30% vers

cursive frost
old trail
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Reckless abandon

cursive frost
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ooooh

full quiver
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Ridiculous that double warlock is a good comp lol

lucid walrus
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class stacking with the same role shouldn't ever be healthy man it's absurd

elder wigeon
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even during warrior's reign of terror in season 1, double warrior wasn't viable lmao

sharp meteor
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warrior doesn't double up well

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you both just take too much damage

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shit like fury/fury might be okay into certain stuff i guess

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two 180% warriors running at you doing 10-15k dps for 20-25 seconds kind of spooky

near delta
spice hornet
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Not enough CC

sharp meteor
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ya lack of reach not ideal

fickle forge
knotty tangle
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Is fury vs bm in 2s very one sided?

elder wigeon
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at low rating? I'd say warrior has a huge advantage vs hunters, but at high rating, like 2400+ you shouldn't have much of a chance

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I don't do 2's much but the few times I have around 2200/2300, i just crushed them, wasn't close

knotty tangle
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How is it such a huge diff? Just better at kiting?

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Playing around 2.3 mmr

elder wigeon
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them making it impossible to catch them and if you do, minimize your ability to deal damage and properly rotate defensives

knotty tangle
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Feel like goikg double charge and leaper helps a ton vs good kiters though

elder wigeon
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I just run bloodrage warbringer slaugherhouse doubletime and short leap with reckless abandon and all of the sudden i can't be kited

knotty tangle
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Insane

fickle forge
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Ppl just kind of knock warrior around however they see fit at high 2s

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At least RA has made that a lot more bearable

knotty tangle
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Yeah, understandable. Thanks guys

wooden canyon
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Fury > Arms for pvp now? Been away a while

elder wigeon
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in most situations and comps yes

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arms is niche currently

raw summit
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2s is fury

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3s is either

elder wigeon
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that too, arms sucks in 2's

wooden canyon
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Alright, hard to go from arms to fury IF ive never played fury before?

elder wigeon
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your arms are gonna hurt

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2x the apm

wooden canyon
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Ouff

warped warren
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just press raging blow and rampage

wooden canyon
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Maybe its time to give my survival Hunter some love

elder wigeon
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stat prio is vers (30%) > Haste > mastery > crit

knotty tangle
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Surv is the same @wooden canyon

elder wigeon
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on any class all you want is above 30%, it's just not valuable enough past the 15% damage reduction, as a stat it's terrible for damage

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which is easy to do even with 4 set

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at least survival is the meta in 2's

undone pumice
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hunters have been one of the premier 2s classes all expansion no?

elder wigeon
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yes, although arms could contend with it fairly well, it was still in their favor

junior ledge
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This is probably a stupid question but how is fury right now I just read somewhere about how broken it is somebody was crying about it on a forum is that actually true And is now the time to come back to PVP

undone pumice
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is better than arms

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for sure

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the broken thing about fury is 40% mortal

raw summit
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"broken"

undone pumice
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thata tge obly thing i could think ppl see broken about it?

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fury has an easier time generating uptime i guess?

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u cant run from a fury it does the same quintuple dash bullshit as dh

junior ledge
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Yeah I haven't touched PVP much since Early BFA. But it would be nice to get some of those saddles.

tough compass
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Fury is dec in 2s, usually better on lower ratings where people still learn the game and gets worse the higher you get

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kind of a noob smasher class

raw summit
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better of goin fury for the most parts

raw summit
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banner reck kill through wall

undone pumice
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thata how it should be

junior ledge
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So basically you're saying it's in a decent place. And it sounds like that was a noob on the forums make sense make sense should be just fine for what I need it for

undone pumice
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2 bursts > 1 dedensive

tough compass
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No clue who that guy on the forum is, but thats how Fury is played rn in 2s. In 3s its kinda different. There are many combs where Fury performs really really well aka Turbo, TSG or paired with Warlock/Mage

undone pumice
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classic warr comps ig?

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turbo has been around since literally when they introduced arena

tough compass
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ye but Turbo performance is always wonky since enhancers are rarely good

junior ledge
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Yeah it was a Facebook form post thing. Griping about how Teir has broken some classes beyond repair

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In 2s

undone pumice
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i mean turbo was good mop right

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only expansion that matters

tough compass
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mop had many good things compared to SL

raw summit
undone pumice
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all other expansions are filler untik next mop

raw summit
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but arguably fury tier broken as shit in pvp too

undone pumice
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destro lock also a huge offender

raw summit
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fuck em

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dogshit ass cringe class

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๐Ÿ˜ก

undone pumice
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hey so i put a chaos bokt ij your chaos bokt so you could caat more chaos bolt

elfin surge
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fury is horrible in 2s

undone pumice
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similar to arms puttinf an execute in your execute so you ciuld execute again

raw summit
undone pumice
elfin surge
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๐Ÿคฃ

tough compass
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the difference is that execute is influenced by gcd while warlock with dark souls pumps 3 Chaos bolts in 1.2secs each for 30k

undone pumice
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dont care + ur wack

elfin surge
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fury is good at low rating and horrible at high

raw summit
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fury exe doesnt even do damage

undone pumice
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yea i meant arms exe

tough compass
undone pumice
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almost like everything except rmp is fotm

tough compass
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the next level of fotm

undone pumice
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rmp is fotg

raw summit
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except thats its flavour of the expansion

undone pumice
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flavor of the game

raw summit
undone pumice
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everyrhing is fote

radiant hamlet
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Rmp is foedfeithotfg

undone pumice
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wtf

radiant hamlet
raw summit
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fairs

undone pumice
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fury guide
ragingblow ragingblow Rampage ragingblow ragingblow Rampage ragingblow ragingblow Rampage ragingblow ragingblow Rampage ragingblow ragingblow Execute

junior ledge
undone pumice
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yea just play fury

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is good

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dont play arms

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is bad

radiant hamlet
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Warrior
โ€ข Fury
- Slaughterhouse completely removed.
- Damage from all abilities nerfed by 6% in pvp combat.

Developperโ€™s notes: Weโ€™ve noticed how simple it was for fury warriors to consistently maintain high amounts of pressure in pvp scenarios with little to no drawbacks, so instead weโ€™re removing Slaughterhouse and tuning their damage so that we may implement a healthier tuning change in the near future.

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Wtf

undone pumice
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wot

radiant hamlet
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Nah is a troll i found on reddit

undone pumice
radiant hamlet
undone pumice
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also arms buffs lets go

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pve buffs even

raw summit
undone pumice
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but also outlaw and aff lock buffs

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DAMAGE buffs too

radiant hamlet
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Outlaw buffs were not needed in pvp at all

raw summit
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every aff is another match of not destro

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w in my eyes

undone pumice
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every aff is

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another match of being sucked out

raw summit
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if u face aff

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laught

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cuz mw

undone pumice
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haha drain life go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

raw summit
undone pumice
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then it goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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then i go orc deatg sound

knotty tangle
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Still cant kite fury warr and dh on my bm lmao

#

Am i just utter trash?

elder wigeon
#

fury has noob stomper mobility

#

the best players can deal with it

knotty tangle
#

Ok so more practise

crystal harbor
#

Do you boys rock the Haste or Crit on use trinket more often? Torn

dark sparrow
#

i'd say either the on use honor haste trinket or the inisignia

sand shadow
#

still got 2.4k on it weeks ago tho keks

#

its just such a powerful spec even if you suck at it, its insane

knotty tangle
#

This season? So you are like a top 100 player?

sand shadow
#

I am for sure not a top100 player on it rofl

#

oh, I might be top100 on the ladder if you sort by BM yea

knotty tangle
#

Weeks ago 2.4 was top 50 though weird

sand shadow
#

yeah but my friend rerolled hpriest for the first time too for that push

#

so we literally played the strongest possible shit

#

we won literal tournament players on their mains, not because we're better, but because the hpriest/bm is just stupid strong

#

and I just checked, by weeks ago I apparently meant two weeks ago, idk why it felt longer (haven't logged the char since)

#

so not THAT impressive, but still

#

BM is stupid strong, hpriest is stupid strong in 2v2

#

oh nvm, it was 10th of April

#

I can tell you that it took 10% of the effort I had to put into getting Elite on my warriors in 2s, that's for sure

#

despite warrior being my main

knotty tangle
#

Peaked at 2.2 at the same time

#

Got my cr back now, prob due to inflation

sand shadow
#

but to go back to the original topic, I too struggled vs warriors on my BM myself, esp on smaller maps, and upon review

#

it was because I would constantly feel under incredible pressure and do stupid shit like FD + Disengage or Disengage + Freedom or FD + Freedom etc

raw summit
#

Isnt the conduit that cdr's disengage when you use traps bugged?

sand shadow
#

each of these you need to spread out and use by itself only, until you're reslowed

#

@raw summit i had it on, but I never actually tried to keep track ๐Ÿ˜„

#

I saw Bicmex was using it, so it ought to work

raw summit
#

Bicmex complained about it

#

Apparently its the same Bonus as the 145 one

sand shadow
#

could be

#

oooh, right, yeah I think he tweeted that a while back ๐Ÿ™‚

raw summit
#

Yesterday actually

sand shadow
#

o_O

#

I swear this is a re-tweet

knotty tangle
#

Its bugged

#

Dosnt upgrade

sand shadow
#

yep, he did tweet about it @ Apr 11

#

by then I was done w/ the huntard anyway so

knotty tangle
#

He spams them with bugs

#

To make them aware

sand shadow
#

have you guys watched his in-depth guides tho?

#

actual gold

#

he shares so much information

raw summit
#

i havent since my hunt is level 10 still

#

maybe in s4

sand shadow
#

they're 3.5hr marathons

#

where he goes through everything he could think of

knotty tangle
#

They are really good, yeav

raw summit
#

im assuming that can help even for warror

sand shadow
#

watching him play hunter is joy

raw summit
#

right?

sand shadow
#

I mean sure

knotty tangle
#

Yeah

sand shadow
#

know thy enemy or some shit like that, right

raw summit
#

ye

sand shadow
#

if I still played hunter, I'd defo steal the vanish macro for example

#

it insta executes FD + pet FD + camo

#

essentially a vanish

#

he did it in the AWC vs Whaazz's team iirc ๐Ÿ˜„

raw summit
#

fd?

sand shadow
#

feign death

#

it drops combat

raw summit
#

ah

sand shadow
#

someone did it to me on my outlul recently

#

and outlul has no aoe KEKW

raw summit
#

so its essentially meld stealth

#

but in cringe

sand shadow
#

kind of yea

#

a bad version of vanish

#

kinda Pog vs stuff like RM

#

if they CC your healer and leave a gap on you, you can just "vanish"

raw summit
#

kinda tox keks

sand shadow
#

I mean

#

I dislike hunters, but I dislike RM more

#

anything that bothers RM is fine in my books keks

knotty tangle
#

Ill start doing that

#

Its a 1 min vanish

sand shadow
#

essentially, yes, tho keep in mind you can be aoe'd out, no vanish/conduit protection

#

on my warr, I just WW them out most of the time

#

altho if they have a disengage and time it properly

#

they get their vanish

raw summit
#

stealth conduit should be deleted

sand shadow
#

its fine, it got nerfed recently

raw summit
#

delet ๐Ÿ˜ก

sand shadow
#

I still can't believe stealth is 2s cd

elder wigeon
#

fury warrior is swiss cheese with bugs

sand shadow
#

I lost a game last night, 3 CBs in a row wouldn't charge me, would've landed a kill for sure I think ๐Ÿ˜„

elder wigeon
#

death sentence still bugged, intervene dc, slaughterhouse bugs out often in bgs

knotty tangle
#

@elder wigeon would be fun to watch

elder wigeon
#

warrior is just a bug fest right now

sand shadow
#

war banner still takes ages to activate

elder wigeon
#

war banner is still fucked where it takes about 500ms to activate

sand shadow
#

I still get coiled w/ reflect on

elder wigeon
#

yup

sand shadow
#

tho that last one has to do w/ servers I think

elder wigeon
#

yeah it's spell batching

sand shadow
#

mhm

elder wigeon
#

cloud servers are laggy

sand shadow
#

also, imo, a bolt in flight on a priest that is about to land MC on you

elder wigeon
#

yup that's also fucked up

sand shadow
#

shouldn't disappear into the nether

#

and instead land on the priest

#

and knock the MC...

elder wigeon
#

yeah it bugs out lol

sand shadow
#

I hate that shit so much

elder wigeon
#

we love how buggy and frustrating warrior is

sand shadow
#

I wish bolt was like my hunter's intim shout

#

shit is fucking insta if in LoS

elder wigeon
#

bolt used to be faster iirc

sand shadow
#

the pets suddenly move at 10000mph

#

all classes/specs have bugs

#

someone recently made a comment on that on Twitter actually

#

how it feels like the amount of bugs has increased lately

#

as if QoL at Blizz is slacking

#

for example, playing BM was so frustrating

#

the 2nd pet would bug the fuck out every 2nd arena, literally

#

where if you forgot to dismiss and resummon, you'd be fucked

elder wigeon
#

oh yeah watching some mop storm bolt shit and that shit was like a laser beam lmao

sand shadow
#

can't dismiss once the gates open for some reason

elder wigeon
#

stormbolt is slow as shit now

sand shadow
#

well it is a bolt OF STORM

#

it makes sense for it to be lightning fast!

#

for RP reasons!

elder wigeon
#

class fantasy stonks ๐Ÿ“‰

knotty tangle
#

@sand shadow you can swap pets though

sand shadow
#

@knotty tangle oh another thing about my epic Elite on BM

#

I didn't know I can play different pets into some comps like RM

#

or hpriests who shackle me undead raptors

#

I knew diff pets exist, I just never remembered

#

still got Elite tho

elder wigeon
#

heroic leap also was much faster before it got redesigned

sand shadow
#

w/ the same exact pets into every team

#

heroic leap got fucked big time

undone pumice
#

buff war??

sand shadow
#

thats why you can no longer easily leap on tiger's peak

#

or mugambala

#

or even BEA sometimes

elder wigeon
#

don't buff warrior just fix the bugs lmao

sand shadow
#

you have to be actually careful

undone pumice
#

fixing bugs is buffing

elder wigeon
#

sure, buff warrior by fixing the bugs

undone pumice
#

yea

#

buff every class by fixing the bugs

elder wigeon
#

I'm not sure how buggy every other class is, but I take it that it's not this messy

#

I know shaman totems are hella buggy near walls

undone pumice
#

sometimes my totems on my sham

#

just decide to spawn on the wrong side of wall

#

and i dont get the buff

elder wigeon
undone pumice
#

because its oob

rustic geyser
#

guys

#

is onslaught a good talent ?

raw summit
#

no

sand shadow
#

its actually not terrible, I tested it

undone pumice
#

yeah but

sand shadow
#

problem is you're so GCD blocked

undone pumice
#

the other ones are better

raw summit
#

not nearly as good as frenzy

sand shadow
#

in reality

rustic geyser
#

frenzy good ?

#

:D??????????

raw summit
#

yes

undone pumice
#

frenzy good

#

massacre good

#

onslaught not good because frenzy and massacre gooder

raw summit
#

massacre dog

#

costs gcd

sand shadow
#

frenzy is meh, but better

#

imo

undone pumice
#

massacre god

sand shadow
#

it all comes down to GCD block tho

#

imo at least

undone pumice
#

massacre is good vs certain classes like dudu

rustic geyser
#

frenzy looks awdful

rustic geyser
undone pumice
#

u look awful

#

druid

sand shadow
#

Frenzy if you're stacked on haste like most Fury warrs is like 0.05s GCD reduction during Enrage and is gone if you swap

#

something weak like that

undone pumice
#

thats why massacre good

rustic geyser
#

but onslaught seems fine

#

but now that i have 2 tier set

undone pumice
#

no

sand shadow
#

it is fine

rustic geyser
#

i feel

#

like its unneeded

raw summit
#

you will spam rb a LOT

undone pumice
#

yea

sand shadow
#

you just don't get to press it optimally at all

undone pumice
#

its unneeded

#

theres literally just better buttons to press

sand shadow
#

your rotation is simply RB RB RB - RAMPGE - RB RB RB etc

raw summit
#

also i dont have a keybind free for it

#

so ye

rustic geyser
#

so im removing it

#

but for frenzy or mass

raw summit
#

frenzy imo

#

but try both

undone pumice
#

frenzy

sand shadow
#

I go w/ frenzy myself

undone pumice
#

prob

sand shadow
#

any GCD reduction, even if small

undone pumice
#

massacre is situational

sand shadow
#

is just so good for fury

rustic geyser
#

now i have a free button space on my hotbar........

raw summit
#

frenzy also just more crackcocain fun

sand shadow
#

nothing beats the rush of spam CBing during RA and getting endless resets

#

endless charges

#

and stupid amounts of dmg

raw summit
#

yessir

undone pumice
#

i love pressing E

raw summit
#

the best fun is in pve

#

being global capped

undone pumice
#

no

#

it aint

raw summit
#

0.75 gcd

#

rb every single one

sand shadow
#

E is for strafing right @undone pumice

#

pls get it right

raw summit
#

e is for ww

undone pumice
#

e is for rb

raw summit
undone pumice
#

2 is for ww

raw summit
#

rb is 3

undone pumice
#

3 is hamstring

raw summit
#

s is hamstring

sand shadow
#

RB is mouse button 1, WW is X

#

get it right boys

#

do better

undone pumice
#

s is goblin glider

raw summit
#

charge on 1

sand shadow
#

charge on 1 for sure

undone pumice
#

1 is for banner

sand shadow
#

that we can agree on

#

WAT

undone pumice
#

charge on R

rustic geyser
#

BRO

sand shadow
#

1 is FOR sure

undone pumice
#

for REEEEEEEEEEE

sand shadow
#

reserverd for CHARGE

rustic geyser
#

what are yall talking

undone pumice
#

u wouldnt get i

#

high iq warrior discuisson

rustic geyser
sand shadow
#

must not have played warrior in Vanilla

raw summit
#

dont tell me ur like pikapala who has kick on spacebar

sand shadow
#

^ HAHa

undone pumice
#

spacebar is for bloodthirst

sand shadow
#

and jumps with F

lucid walrus
#

the hold bind on kick

sand shadow
#

or some shit right

undone pumice
#

f for execute

sand shadow
#

F is for Fear

raw summit
undone pumice
#

shift 4 for fear

sand shadow
#

idk why you're not getting it @undone pumice

lucid walrus
#

s-V fear

raw summit
#

same

sand shadow
#

Shit-4 is for trinket, my god

rustic geyser
#

stop it

#

please :D

undone pumice
#

alt 2 is for trinket

raw summit
#

shift r is trinket

sand shadow
#

alt-2!??!?

undone pumice
#

shift r is regen

raw summit
#

alt 2 is ork racial

undone pumice
#

shift mwheeldown is ork racial

lucid walrus
sand shadow
#

oh nonono

lucid walrus
#

interdasting

sand shadow
#

gtfo away from me w/ these satanic keybinds

#

my gentle heart will not take it

undone pumice
#

wait till u find out my arena 123 macros

#

shift alt ctrl 1 for stormbolt arena 1

raw summit
#

shift 234 for bolt bedge

lucid walrus
#

s-123 for targeting

raw summit
#

thats not a bad idea

sand shadow
#

I mean, at least I haven't heard shit like WHaazz's Shift + U for cloak

#

so thats good

raw summit
#

ikr?

lucid walrus
#

U is absurd

raw summit
#

dude some peoples binds

undone pumice
#

i have alt k for gungaginga macro

raw summit
#

and i thought my b for horse on pala was scuffed

lucid walrus
#

furthest east one i have is i think T?

raw summit
sand shadow
#

mine is H

#

the furthest one

undone pumice
#

demon time macro

sand shadow
#

oh nvm, its J

raw summit
#

mines zhv

sand shadow
#

J for AoE taunt KEKW

raw summit
#

alt d

#

for me

lucid walrus
#

using numpad for UI was a life changing experience

undone pumice
#

alt f5 for aoe taunt

sand shadow
#

alt f5 is monkaS d00d

#

what If im tipsy

#

hm?

undone pumice
#

idk

lucid walrus
#

f-5 AND alt mod?

undone pumice
#

i dont drink

lucid walrus
#

actually demonic

sand shadow
#

lol what a loser

raw summit
#

f1 etc i dont even have bound

raw summit
undone pumice
#

im not allowed bro

raw summit
#

L

undone pumice
#

truly

sand shadow
#

by an Amber Heard character in your life

raw summit
#

itd be even funnier if we did the demon queues drunk

#

tbh

sand shadow
#

or an actual medical reason

undone pumice
#

by me being not of legal drinking age

sand shadow
#

ooooh

lucid walrus
#

thought u were euro

sand shadow
#

you're under 18?!?

undone pumice
#

i am euro

lucid walrus
#

wtf

undone pumice
#

yea

sand shadow
#

dude must be living in one of them civilized countries

#

I started drinking at like 15

undone pumice
#

nah bro

#

i live in swiss mountains

lucid walrus
#

wild. not of drinking age in the states anyhow

raw summit
#

most

#

that alc cider

lucid walrus
#

alps?

sand shadow
#

Alps?

lucid walrus
#

lmao nvm

raw summit
#

nono

undone pumice
#

absinthe?

raw summit
#

they have alcoholic apple juice

lucid walrus
#

idk drinks then

sand shadow
elfin surge
sand shadow
#

I am a bad boy, yes

raw summit
#

and its called suure Moscht or some shit

undone pumice
#

moscht is just

#

what u call

raw summit
#

REALLY fucking weird

undone pumice
#

any cider

elfin surge
#

i'm 20 and i've never drank or done a single drug in my life ๐Ÿ˜Ž

raw summit
#

theres alc ones

undone pumice
#

yea

sand shadow
#

@elfin surge thats perfectly okay ๐Ÿ™‚

undone pumice
#

then u call it kuhmoscht

#

for cow

elfin surge
#

wow is my drug

lucid walrus
raw summit
undone pumice
#

no

#

we literally call alc cider

sand shadow
#

I am much older tho, and trust me, reasons for a drink do tend to crop up as you age keks

undone pumice
#

cow

#

delicious

raw summit
undone pumice
#

i love drinking cow

#

anyway what do you guyys have bound to alt shift x

sand shadow
#

nuthin

raw summit
#

shift x is pve spear reck macro

undone pumice
#

wtf weirdo

sand shadow
#

dont like binds that take my fingers off my mobility

#

on the run ALL THE TIME BABY

undone pumice
#

shift x is intervene healer
shift c intervene dps
alt shift x is charge arena1
alt shift c charge arena2
alt shift g charge arena3

raw summit
#

int is shift e and control e for me

undone pumice
#

shift e for interrupt

raw summit
#

alt shit g

#

demon bind

sand shadow
#

my most demonic bind I think is Capslock

#

for my pvp trinket keks

undone pumice
#

demon bind

#

capslock

sand shadow
#

so comfy tho

undone pumice
#

how do u shittalk people properly bro w tf

sand shadow
#

another underrated bind imo is ~

#

thats my kick

#

idk why people sleep on it

undone pumice
#

minus

sand shadow
#

not -

#

~

undone pumice
#

tilde

full quiver
raw summit
#

^i dont have bound

#

maybe i do that

#

hm

sand shadow
#

its incredibly comfortable imo

undone pumice
#

i bind tilde to whipser phil hes a monkey

sand shadow
#

and it feels comfortable doing it, no?

undone pumice
#

no

sand shadow
#

wtv you're a kid

undone pumice
#

my fingers dont reach all the way to my enter button

sand shadow
#

you know nuffin

#

!!

raw summit
#

yet

undone pumice
#

arena 3 charge

crystal harbor
#

Best way to counter UH DK bursting me down into oblivion on 2's? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

undone pumice
#

aegis

sand shadow
#

BM + Impending + wall

raw summit
#

remember slappy does a shit ton of dam

sand shadow
#

and your healer needs to do stuff too still

raw summit
#

what also helps

sand shadow
#

at this point, I no longer play Aegis myself

raw summit
#

is having ra + 4p

#

or they dead zone you

#

and you wanna kys

sand shadow
#

BM too stronk w/ the Aegis nerf

undone pumice
#

i already wanna kms

raw summit
lucid walrus
#

BM is pretty nice

sand shadow
#

BM is ~7k less hp than the Aegis absorb at max ilvl

raw summit
#

i dont have bm of this season yet

sand shadow
#

and increases your healing

lucid walrus
#

aegis feels good into resonator but youโ€™re likely locked down when itโ€™s thrown anyway

raw summit
#

caps prolly goin into 2nd wep

#

maybe bm + neck is better actually

sand shadow
#

not to mention actually saves you if you got stunlocked and leave the CC at low hp

undone pumice
#

i have honor bm

lucid walrus
#

crit weapon out of vault last wk was nice. still no helm

sand shadow
#

I got one from vault

raw summit
#

im missing neck and wep and bis ring + trinket

lucid walrus
#

tier helm is statted well right? thought it was damn near optimal

raw summit
#

then im done

sand shadow
#

im like 89k hp now as Fury keks

lucid walrus
#

perfect

raw summit
#

im 80k cuz im shit deadge

undone pumice
#

same

sand shadow
#

could be higher if I go for the pvp ring over the ZM crafted one

raw summit
#

nah i have more hp than u i swear

lucid walrus
#

8% speed off that ring feels too good

raw summit
sand shadow
#

yep

#

thats why I aint changing it

#

but you'd get a bit more stam if you did is what I meant

raw summit
#

just priest buff :)

sand shadow
#

40 stam more to be exact

#

and that is x10%

lucid walrus
#

must feel even better on fury with a more reliable root break via bloodrage

sand shadow
#

so 44 I guess

lucid walrus
#

i donโ€™t have 4p

#

i will tomorrow obv

sand shadow
#

im down to 116% movement now sadge

lucid walrus
#

sitting i think 122

sand shadow
#

gief sockeeets

undone pumice
#

do u run full speed gems

sand shadow
#

I go 128% w/ full sockets iirc

raw summit
lucid walrus
#

could be 128 with kleia if it wasnโ€™t capped

raw summit
#

speed gem + socket + speed cape

#

for me

lucid walrus
raw summit
#

115%

sand shadow
#

I run 3 speed gems + cloak to get it yeah

lucid walrus
#

i think i just use the 5%er and doublet

undone pumice
#

wots the flat speed gem

raw summit
#

i only have sockets on tier helm and wrists rn

#

very sad

raw summit
lucid walrus
#

something something straddling agate

undone pumice
#

sage agate?

sand shadow
#

I have 3 :<

lucid walrus
#

straddling sage yeah

#

thatโ€™s the one

sand shadow
raw summit
#

illegal

#

dope

sand shadow
#

the 3% one is also straddling something

#

and so is the 13 Speed per SL gem

#

so you just AH for "straddling" and they're all 3 there

undone pumice
#

phil

raw summit
#

set favourite bedge

undone pumice
#

when lebel

#

eat faster

raw summit
#

i didnt eat i spent time flaming keybinds

#

i go eat now

undone pumice
#

i go eat the ntoo

sand shadow
#

MAN I JUST NOTICED

#

my 2nd 2h is not upgraded

#

WTF

undone pumice
#

NOOOOOB

sand shadow
#

my god

#

been sitting on maxed honor for ages too

undone pumice
#

lmao

raw summit
#

Uff

undone pumice
#

just buy marks

#

if ur capped

sand shadow
#

fk do I do w/ marks dude