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sharp meteor
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so happy i dusted off my lock this class is so funny right now

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soul up and everything just evaporates

lucid walrus
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really oughta gear mine

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what spec mr teapot

sharp meteor
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affliction

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although destro better if u have tier at least until they nerf it

lucid walrus
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4set craftable next wk

sharp meteor
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i pref aff in general but disenchanting somebody from 70% with a bolt into instant bolt is just too good

lucid walrus
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i can imagine

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guessing demo doesn't see as much play compared to the other 2. those demonbolt outliers were nuts though

near delta
sharp meteor
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o it'll happen

mystic barn
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theyl probably leave it like warrior and let it terrorize the ladder for 2 ssns

sharp meteor
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imo they remove infernal stun then nerf insta bolt by like 30 to 60 percent

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maybe nerf fast bolt leggo buffing it, too

mystic barn
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gotta pay ur reparations guys

near delta
near delta
sharp meteor
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only in kitty

mystic barn
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liar

wet scarab
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the infernal stun is obnoxious but like most of the time you'll die in a soul rot havoc double mortal coil triple havoc chaos bolts

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probably the first two chaos bolts only even

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they can also aoe stun you with shadowfury

sharp meteor
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if they have six charges they just send havoc coil bolt you once into fast bolt then the third one is instant

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so it's like three 25-30k+ bolts in the havoc>coil and u generally die

wet scarab
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yeah exactly the infernal stun isnt what'll kill you

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though it proccing multiple times in the game gives them openings

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also the soul rot leggo lets them drain life from the whole team kekw

lucid walrus
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coil has gotta be one of the most infuriating ccs to get hit with

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functions as a stun, acts like a fear

wet scarab
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and heals you

lucid walrus
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20% flat heal to the lock too yea

wet scarab
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also 45 sec cd

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my lock is 3pc now I'm going to go to the dark side

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tired of just spamming RoF in dungeons, high skill cap obv

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oh and you can havoc cleave the mortal coil it's like 0 effort to force a trinket on a small go

sharp meteor
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or shaman can dispel it so only one person gets havoc'd

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ground is a possibility but imo that has to be saved for big bolt

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er instant bolt

lucid walrus
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feels about as bad as vortex into a hunter matchup doe

thick reef
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why do i see crushing blow on details for some wars?

lucid walrus
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reckless abandon turns raging blow into crushing blow (during reck)

thick reef
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ty

undone pumice
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is slaughterhouse op?

steep inlet
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wut

undone pumice
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skillcapped thinks so

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they say its up there with sepsis and vendetta

elder wigeon
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I'm okay with a rework on it to be 30% but last 8 seconds and be 4 stacks

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40% is aids to deal with and keeping 8 stacks with 6 seconds is aids to do

elfin surge
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but we're not immortal gods spamming kidney every DR like assa

undone pumice
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doesnt assass have that too?

elfin surge
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Shiv but not perma 40%

torn scroll
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its like

elfin surge
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Assa is stupid op

torn scroll
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its like

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30% ish

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if they press on cd

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i think

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mby more

elfin surge
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they press every kidney

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💀

undone pumice
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i mean a class/spec can have something op without the spec being op

dusty saddle
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i only started playing pvp in the last bfa patch and i remember warlocks were completely fucked, but then i don't remember them really being an issue at the start of SL... but now they are

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does the class just naturally scale with gear or something? or it's just coincidental that they seem strong later on

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warlock seems far and away one of the best damage classes in arena in low rating at least

feral fjord
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Is draven good for venthyr ?

red herald
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what conduits do i play as kyrian arms? PV / CTR / MC?

undone pumice
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now they hardcast 1 and then instacast some

raw summit
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The tierset

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Is the issue

wet scarab
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destruction was decent in the early season but demo was the real cancer

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it's definitely the tier set

elder wigeon
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it's not just tier set, resolve is a big problem too

near delta
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5 seconds would be reasonable

undone pumice
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no

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them being cc immune due to a trinket at all is dumb

wet scarab
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that's not a destro lock problem

worthy fern
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It is exclusively a destro and frost mage problem

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No one else benefits from it nearly as much

undone pumice
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its not a destro lock problem

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its a lock problem

worthy fern
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Even aff and demo don’t benefit as much

raw summit
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fuck purple and light blue

mystic barn
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you say that but when you can’t kick or cc a fully stacked drain you just watch your whole team die

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and the affloc is invincible from conduit

worthy fern
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@mystic barn aff Is scary regardless

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They don’t need to cast nearly as much to pump

near delta
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A spec whose entire thing is hardcasting one hard hitting spell simultaneously getting the ability to not be kicked or ccd on it and to instant cast it is silly.

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I hate queuing into those aff/DH teams

proud root
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Any 2v2’ers with great success on fury?

raw summit
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between the 2 is arguably the better spec for 2s

proud root
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So arms is worse in both types of content now?

raw summit
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in 3s its not that clear

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they do different things

proud root
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Because the icy veins guide isn’t very detailed in the 2v2 department

raw summit
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2s isnt a warrior bracket anyways

near delta
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You can definitely put in some work on 2s with fury

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But its not a top spec

proud root
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Yeah I find myself struggling with any frost mage comp

near delta
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Are you running warbringer/doubletime with blood rage?

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Double charge, charge root, and the root break pvp talent

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That's enough to really stick to them and if you get uptime they'll have to run even on their CDs cause they're so much squishier than fire

flat isle
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If you're doing 2s you're doing it for fun or because you're a masochist. Don't take it too seriously or you'll be upset.

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Be like Mud, play with randoms

undone pumice
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hasnt 2s alwayzs been shit for warr

elfin surge
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@proud root fury is probably better for 2s but yeah 2s just aren't a great place for warriors atm.

near delta
flat isle
undone pumice
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cata was cata

flat isle
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Tentacle sword was bae

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And throwdown

fickle forge
flat isle
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Those are baby bolts

near delta
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Was playing with this hpak

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*hpal

fickle forge
near delta
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Who ate 3 bolts in 1.2 seconds

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Went from 100% to dead

flat isle
fickle forge
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I wanted to reflect the last bolts

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But I ate an imp firebolt

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😎 😎 😎 👍 👍 👍

near delta
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Lmao

flat isle
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Git gud

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Imagine being so confident you're like nah man. I don't need kick

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Don't need to kick a cast if I just global this kid

fickle forge
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Top damage dealt? Spell Reflection duh

flat isle
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Good thing they nerfed aegis

raw summit
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ye that trinket was SOOO toxic

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imo we should unnerf resonator

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rmp needs the buff

near delta
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Did they give some sort of reason for that?

fickle forge
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Too stronk apparently

near delta
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Oh yeah definitely

flat isle
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The PvP balance dev plays a wizard

raw summit
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blizzard mains rmp ig

near delta
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It's funny

fickle forge
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That's okay though, if I don't get eaten by CB, I'm always happy to open my dmg taken log and see I've sustained 60% from Frostbolt

raw summit
flat isle
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Dude my industrial sized barrel of copium is running low

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From me hoping for nerfs

near delta
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Cause with the reduced health it jyst breaks then you can be safely resonators

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*resonatored

flat isle
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Should of bubbled at 100%

near delta
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Dude just needs to pre bubble at 8 stacks

flat isle
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Did he try lining

near delta
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It's easy

raw summit
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^^^

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as we can see

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major skill issue

near delta
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It was so funny

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The hpal I was playing with got infernal stunned

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And bolted

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Then took two more chaos bolts while in the infernal stun

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Trinketed the stun but didn't have the global to get bubble off

near delta
raw summit
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ye

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5% flat

near delta
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Lmfao

flat isle
near delta
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It was several weeks ago tbf

flat isle
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I know.

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I was on my lock yesterday and killed a rogue through cloak. Because he cloaked while the 2 bolts were mid air

fickle forge
flat isle
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They need to put an ICD on resolve and nerf the free bolt damage in pvp

near delta
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Been playing some surv recently feinging the bolt with survival tactics is actually ridiculous

raw summit
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as we can see

raw summit
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shouldnt have queued into a rogue

fickle forge
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Just Q snipe all the DKs idiot

raw summit
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see?

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theres the issue

flat isle
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Multiple issues in that clip

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  1. You're arms. Fool they nerfed that
  2. You actually queued 2s
raw summit
fickle forge
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Damn man

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Guess I should have Q'd with Hpala as well

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Dumb me

flat isle
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Gotta cleanse the sepsis

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Duh

raw summit
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"mainly playing warlock"

near delta
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"If aegis made it so you don't instantly die when a warlock looks at you, it'd be broken"

wet scarab
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Lol dying in their burst dark soul window would be fine except you will die 20 seconds later again

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Assuming you survived it

fickle forge
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My fav part about MLX is LoS'ing for 20 sec vs DS and then 50 sec vs Deathborne, so that you have 40 sec to do something in before having to LoS 20 sec vs DS

elfin surge
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Would just like to let everyone know that assa rogue is the biggest warrior counter.

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That is all.

fickle forge
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Thanks king

raw summit
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queue into outlaw

elfin surge
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Outlaw does significantly less damage to warriors because plate. Which lets you feel safe enough to counter pressure.

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Assa damage is all nature and bleeds which bypass armor.

raw summit
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they dont let you do any damage though

elfin surge
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all 3 rogue specs dont let you do damage

raw summit
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outlaws i mean

elfin surge
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Rogues dont die, you kill their teammate.

fickle forge
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Survived my kidney? Lemme just Disarm your pressure now

raw summit
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sepsis should be deleted

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:)

fickle forge
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It's not even Sepsis that's busted

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It gets modified to the peak of mount olympus

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Tier set pumps it with steroids and the Shiv and conduits take it to god tier levels

raw summit
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shoulda said delet rog :)

fickle forge
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: )

raw summit
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ye its so many fucking modifiers

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so cringe

full quiver
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Is the 4pc nerf noticeable

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For assaa

sharp meteor
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It really is kind of reminiscent of BFA in that Assa once again feels like a better Arms

undone pumice
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almost like every expansion is the same

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just a diff borrowed power

nimble jasper
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just rot more than burst

raw summit
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Anything with 4p would be enough

nimble jasper
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necro assa in general hurts more than nf assa

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besides sepsis being nuclear

proud root
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Do you guys use gladius or sarena

sharp meteor
raw summit
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Meaningful choice smh

raw summit
near delta
proud root
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Which addon is it with the overlay of cc on the characters “head”?

nimble jasper
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outside of meme onebangs

proud root
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Thanks a lot ^^

craggy socket
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Double Warlock what a comp

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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why you putting the onedance rmpals on blast though

raw summit
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So NF was/is(?) the non meme onebang

sharp meteor
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yeah

raw summit
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And Venth the meme one

nimble jasper
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nf is the reliable onebang

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every min

raw summit
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Cant rets Dispell sepsis

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But then again ur playing with a ret

nimble jasper
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and monks

raw summit
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And prot Palas but deadge

nimble jasper
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but you see

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dispel reqs you

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to not be in cc

raw summit
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Trinket it wait nvm

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1 min CD vs 2 mins

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Tragic

nimble jasper
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yeah i mean the real nf oneshot

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is play crit lego

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and just vanish+sit in stealth

raw summit
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I saw palu Show that off

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Was like 70k dps

craggy socket
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People still playing w/ rets?

nimble jasper
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yeah whaazz did it on tr

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months ago

nimble jasper
craggy socket
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Ret is butter disguised as a plate class

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its actually insane when you think about it

raw summit
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No drs omegalul

undone pumice
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ret is burst warrior

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on wheelchair

nimble jasper
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ret is fine idk what people complain about

raw summit
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Idk ret just dies

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Cuz their "wall" doesnt reduce dam taken

nimble jasper
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everyone dies except the big offenders

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rn

raw summit
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Ye but ret defensive feels soooo weak

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Sure it's built around self heal

nimble jasper
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i could have sworn their magic dr works

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then you have warlocks where dark pact is basically an immune

raw summit
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They have a 20% phys wall

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Or some shit

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As Talent

nimble jasper
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divine protection?

mystic barn
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Eye for an eye

nimble jasper
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am i high

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could have sworn they have magic dr on a min cd

mystic barn
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rets get fucked by mag dam

raw summit
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Dark pact needed that buff in SoD 💀

undone pumice
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ret gets fucked or fucks

raw summit
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Holy wall is great

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In cc and low ass cd

nimble jasper
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did it get removed from ret

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tf

raw summit
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Ret has avengers shield on a 90 sec that absorbs like flat 20 or so

nimble jasper
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also can we talk about how mage has gotten defensively nerfed like

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6-7x since s1

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and still omega tanky

craggy socket
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Ret just melts

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Casters are so tanky

mystic barn
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cuz they only touch mage shields

nimble jasper
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i feel like mage is weird to balance tbh

raw summit
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Alter

full quiver
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Ret melts if you one shot it

nimble jasper
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considering low rated mages

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still flop

full quiver
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Like everything else

raw summit
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Has to go

nimble jasper
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its the good mages that remind you

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class is immortal

full quiver
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Doesn't feel like it melts when they can heal lol

nimble jasper
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“good”

mystic barn
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well yea when you tend to press buttons you tend to survive better

nimble jasper
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i swear if you queue in sandbag mmr the mages just fold

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esp to like

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sham meleecleaves

raw summit
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Disable alter in pvp like lay on hands is

nimble jasper
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just purge

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oh wait

raw summit
nimble jasper
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any good mage knows to avoid that

spice hornet
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Alter is lowkey op as fuck

nimble jasper
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like psure its also considered a thing

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“how to not get your alter purged”

craggy socket
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Just melted a low rated mage

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hahaha

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bad alters early blocks

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no blizzards

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ez

nimble jasper
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yeah i think its part of why they havent touched mage tankiness hard

craggy socket
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yeah im shelfing my ret

nimble jasper
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bad mages die so easily

craggy socket
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playing fury instead its just so much more fun

nimble jasper
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and devs are 1600

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at best

raw summit
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That's why they nerfed prot

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Got Rextroy'd once and want to delete it

shell light
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How do we get Tier on pvp gear?

raw summit
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Catalyst

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Or luck in vault

craggy socket
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In 10.0 Rogues, Mages and Priests available for all races.

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Mages get their stun haha

near delta
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Thiccc rogue, mage, priest

fickle forge
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Eyo you guys like dragons?!

undone pumice
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@craggy socket whereu getting this info

near delta
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Tauren mage war stomping into poly and all that plus the increased crit damm sounds kinda brutal lol

undone pumice
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wtf

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its not that deep

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just let cows be mages

raw summit
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Orc priest

near delta
elfin surge
earnest wharf
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about to get revered to enlightened finally - most of yall went unity neck, and signet ring?

mystic barn
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Mages finally get a stun

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xd

fickle forge
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Kul'tiran?

wispy cedar
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a what

fickle forge
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BiS race?

flat isle
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Inc tauren rogue named Cowmooflage

fickle forge
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Inc orc priests

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😎 👍

raw summit
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😎 👍

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Do you even want that in holy priest mirror tho?

undone pumice
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hpriest mirror gnome bis

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or belf

nimble jasper
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isnt gnome only good in boomy meta

raw summit
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P sure undead better in rmp

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But mich you think rogue ever goes idk tauren or some shit?

nimble jasper
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nope

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you play either orc or nelf

fickle forge
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Everybody knows that if you play RMP, you play nelf ofc

nimble jasper
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idk if undead gonna be better than orc priest

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doubtful

wet scarab
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tauren rogue is a good thing they'll have one more DR that will break their brains

nimble jasper
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no one plays undead rogue or mage

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besides boomers stuck in tbc

wet scarab
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how you justify invisible cows in the storyline though will be interesting

undone pumice
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why was undead better in tbc?

raw summit
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I mean xar is undead

nimble jasper
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broke fear

raw summit
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But that's his decade old main

undone pumice
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it still do

nimble jasper
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and didnt put your pvp trinket on cd

undone pumice
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i mean

nimble jasper
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in tbc it also made you immune to fear/charm as well

undone pumice
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isnt it better to fucking RESIST a kidney in tbc

nimble jasper
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for like the next 5 seconds

undone pumice
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than break a fear

nimble jasper
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you have to remember how prevalent

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locks are

undone pumice
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i dont remember

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because

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i didnt play this game

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ever

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until tbc prepatch

nimble jasper
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locks are just as broken

undone pumice
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and didnt hit max level until 8.3

nimble jasper
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as mages historically

low sparrow
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In 2s as fury do we just blow up the healer the whole game I keep seeing them so that every time and my healers just dies

undone pumice
raw summit
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And most healers are easy to eat

wet scarab
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also depends on how much babysitting your healer needs or if they can kite

nimble jasper
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@undone pumice undead got gutted mid wotlk

raw summit
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Youll need to actively stop the fury if ur playing with a shaman

nimble jasper
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and human racial became a free cc break trinket

river walrus
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hey guys, which slots aree you guys making the tier pieces for fury?

nimble jasper
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so the game became female human face5 until legion

raw summit
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Mine are head shoulders Hand legs

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But i didnt get to really chose

undone pumice
nimble jasper
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and then legion brought us

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orc hardiness

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stack with relentless

undone pumice
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alliance can still buy their version of the warlords deathweel

river walrus
undone pumice
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so im guessing evey mount farmer will go alli

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in cross fac patch

nimble jasper
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unironically orc is the only reason

low sparrow
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I’m going human immediately

nimble jasper
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to still play horde

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at all

undone pumice
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no

raw summit
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Yes

undone pumice
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troll has best pve racial

nimble jasper
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no?

raw summit
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No

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Dwarf

undone pumice
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haste > ap?

raw summit
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Is the fucking terra nuts for pve

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In m+ etc

undone pumice
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wtf is dworf racial

nimble jasper
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eveeyone plays dorf

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in md

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2% crit dmg

raw summit
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Remove all bleeds n shit

nimble jasper
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and magic dispel

raw summit
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Aka remove full assa pop

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Every 2 mins

undone pumice
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doesnt tauren do that too

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with crit dmg

nimble jasper
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both dark iron and reg dwarf do that

raw summit
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Oh and it's 10% dr

nimble jasper
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i forgot what passive dark irons get

raw summit
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Dark iron gains so much mainstat if u Dispell lots

undone pumice
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wtf

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dark iron op

nimble jasper
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reg dwarf crit dmg is superior

undone pumice
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but troll is 10% haste innit

nimble jasper
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to dark irons passive

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15% haste for a few secs

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its gotten heavily nerfed

undone pumice
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ah

nimble jasper
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over the years

raw summit
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Dorf is omega

undone pumice
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so like

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horde just sucks

nimble jasper
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literally the only good race on horde

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is orcs in pvp

undone pumice
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time to race change into a gnome

raw summit
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Imagine u can racial and defensive the Sepsis and rotate that

undone pumice
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to deal with all these frost mages

wet scarab
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Fireblood: Removes all poison, disease, curse, magic, and bleed effects and increases your primary stat by 600 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec. 2 min cooldown.

nimble jasper
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too bad dorf racial

undone pumice
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WHAT

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600

nimble jasper
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puts your reg trinket on cd

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that was bfa fireblood

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psure

wet scarab
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yeah BFa

undone pumice
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Fireblood Dark Iron Dwarf Racial
Instant 2 min cooldown
Removes all poison, disease, curse, magic, and bleed effects and increases your primary stat by 183 and an additional 61 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec.

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wowhead

wet scarab
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increases your primary stat by 183 and an additional 61 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec.

raw summit
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Still big

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Do it silence u if u remove UA?

nimble jasper
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yes

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so you prob die

raw summit
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Oh well

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Maybe i become a midget 9.2.5seramore

wet scarab
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this is the reg dwarf one
Removes all harmful Poison, Disease, Curse, Magic, and Bleed effects and reduces all physical damage taken by 10% for 8 sec.

nimble jasper
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food for thought

raw summit
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Honestly might not be worth

nimble jasper
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fireblood is more str even without dispelling anytthing

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than orc

raw summit
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Since id lose my beloved dragonmaw tabard

undone pumice
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buff horde

nimble jasper
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i swear anyone playing maghar orc

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is inting

undone pumice
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but muh garrosh cosplay

nimble jasper
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someone drinking the demon koolaid

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makes you stun resistant

undone pumice
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how is it possible that all the horde racials and allid races

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suck

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dick

raw summit
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Maghar has bad costomizations

undone pumice
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only vulpera is good but thats only for m+ tanking

nimble jasper
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who knows

raw summit
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They literally look worse than reg orc

nimble jasper
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void elves have better racials

raw summit
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Idk hmt is kinda big

nimble jasper
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than any horde allied race

undone pumice
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void elves get the bank or mailbox?

nimble jasper
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no

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50% off mog

raw summit
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Tmog price

nimble jasper
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and 5% dmg increase every 1min

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for like 12 secs

undone pumice
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flat 5%?

raw summit
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Im p sure i have sent 100k Gold down the tmog drain

undone pumice
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big

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same

nimble jasper
#

i think its just a proc thing

undone pumice
#

i spend so much gold on a tmog saying for sure i will stick with tihs one

nimble jasper
#

also their active ability is kinda fun

#

to use

undone pumice
#

then 2 days later im wearing some random tbc glad full set?

#

idk what happens in my brain

nimble jasper
#

and nightborne are just

#

the walmart sale version

undone pumice
#

ah gobs get the bank andn ightborne get the mailbox$

nimble jasper
#

of night elves

undone pumice
#

mechagnome

raw summit
#

No

#

Dont

wet scarab
#

gnome is really good as a pvp racial

raw summit
#

But looks so fucking shit

wet scarab
#

I think it also doesn't trigger the pvp trinket

raw summit
#

That i couldnt ever

#

Ever play one

undone pumice
#

mechagnome

lucid walrus
#

full tauren rmp

undone pumice
#

Combat Analysis: You gather and analyze combat data every 5 sec, increasing your primary stat by 4, stacking up to 8 times. The data decays while out of combat.

#

32 main stat

wet scarab
#

they also have a heal at 20% health

raw summit
#

Bad looking = 🚮

undone pumice
#

Emergency Failsafe: When you fall below 20% health, heal for 15% of your maximum health. This effect cannot occur more than once every 2.5 min.

#

Mastercraft: You function as a personal Blacksmithing Anvil, Cooking Fire, and Mining Forge. In addition, your limbs include every profession tool.

#

TOOLS

#

THEY ARE TOOLS GENTLEMEN

#

GET A MECHAGNOME IN YOUR RAID

raw summit
#

they look dogshit

undone pumice
#

they look FUNNY

wet scarab
#

their racials are made with the explicit purpose of people not playing them in any content

undone pumice
#

kul tirans

#

holy shit their dudu forms look sick

raw summit
#

The punch is cool

#

But they are too diff to mog for me

nimble jasper
#

implying people dont just use druid artifact skins

undone pumice
#

the bear form is sick

#

ur some gnarly tree

proud root
#

Is there a reason that the magic damage absorbtion trinket is used by everyone atm?

wet scarab
#

because a lot of your matches will be against warlocks and mages

proud root
#

Like does it dispel stuff as well or is it just a magic damage Ignore Pain

raw summit
#

Magic IP

#

And it does better than the battlemaster Trinket into casters

#

(generally still not enough cuz lock op op)

proud root
#

Yeah played against 2x destro in 2v2 today

#

Wasn’t fun

#

What trinkets should I use as a human? I’ve got relentless trinket + primary stat proc trinket

raw summit
#

Id probably use insigia + defensive one

#

Not sure havent been human in a while

proud root
#

Is medallion a bad choice?

nimble jasper
#

well you have to run it in some matchups

#

but you essentially have no racial

#

barring human stats passive

proud root
#

Hmmm feels bad to play human compared to orc ngl

mystic barn
#

every race feels bad to play compared to orc

nimble jasper
#

some classes can get away playing human rele easier

#

like mages

proud root
#

Nelf might even be better at that point, because at least you get a free LoS

nimble jasper
#

nelf more of a rogue/druid racial

#

and healer thing

raw summit
#

Anything that wants a restealth/drink

#

Not really a wari thing

nimble jasper
#

nelf druids being able to meld drink in prowl

#

is so dumb

raw summit
#

Ye

#

Invisidrink

sharp meteor
mystic barn
#

people able to drink with dots on them is dumb too

nimble jasper
#

ye

#

nelf rogue in assa meta

#

is absurd

#

or crit lego meta

raw summit
#

Dots should keep u in combat it's so stupid

#

Oh u have uh dot on u?

#

Ye pillar > stealth

lucid walrus
#

it’d make bleeds insane tbf

raw summit
#

Yea but doesnt matter since it only Hits cringe classes

proud root
#

Make them switch to kyrian at least

#

Only fair

nimble jasper
#

i cant say i agree on dots keeping combat considering classes like priest

#

can spam a dot

#

with no real cost

raw summit
#

Rend should keep u

#

Idk about swp

nimble jasper
#

rend is different

#

swp/sunfire

#

poogers

raw summit
#

Rend should 100% keep u in

ancient sonnet
#

cause its from warrior?

lucid walrus
#

can’t say i agree

raw summit
nimble jasper
#

cloaked in shadows is just

#

dogshit design

#

whoever was smoking a major bowl

#

and designed that

lucid walrus
#

got nerfed & it’s still strong

nimble jasper
#

yeah

raw summit
#

That's the restealth one ye?

nimble jasper
#

just not s1 where i could sit in stealth

lucid walrus
#

restealth absorb ya

nimble jasper
#

for 30 secs eating

#

with full dots

#

also just the fact s1 mage could literally

#

1v2 melee healer in 2s

#

with 0 help

raw summit
#

Not being able to ww em out seramore

nimble jasper
#

while rogue eats

lucid walrus
#

s1 mage was self harm inducing w/o a purge

nimble jasper
#

tbh tho

#

i think s1 mage immortality was just as problematic

#

cuz the rogue legit doesnt have to come out

#

to save his mage

proud root
#

Wouldn’t nelf warr be pretty good in a lock/mage meta tho?

lucid walrus
#

what for?

raw summit
#

Nelf > Blizzard

#

L

nimble jasper
#

you can meld one bolt at best

lucid walrus
#

meld like 2 casts every 2min just for them to slam you next global

nimble jasper
#

assuming you dont get insta pulled out

#

by a proc infernal

#

meld operates like old stealth

proud root
#

You have time to Heroic Leap away then

nimble jasper
#

one fart in the wind removes it

proud root
#

Or Intervene to your healer behind the wall

nimble jasper
#

gonna be honest

#

you prob could have stopped the bolt

#

if you could play your char

#

to meld it

#

to begin with

#

and not be stuck in a coil

#

or fear

#

or poly

proud root
#

That’s true…

lucid walrus
#

dying in a coil is the caster equivalent of getting killed in a ret’s war stomp

nimble jasper
#

the best part about coil

#

is it picks bis pathing

#

aka

#

out of your healers los

#

9/10 times

lucid walrus
#

the heal is infuriating too

#

but they’d get topped in that window anyhow ig

nimble jasper
#

i really enjoyed have to trinket a coil in s4

wet scarab
#

even better when it's a havoc coil that sends you to opposite sides of the pillar

nimble jasper
#

cuz a lock was triple bolting me

#

in havoc coil

proud root
#

Can you still Intervene+Spell Reflect btw?

lucid walrus
#

i wish i was decent in s4 man

proud root
#

Or is it only damaging spells

nimble jasper
#

i wasnt wdym

lucid walrus
nimble jasper
#

i just abused spite

#

on warlock teams

#

for free puntos

lucid walrus
#

i was a 16yo rot warrior enjoyer lmao. didn’t know how the game worked

#

welfare duelist coulda been a drake

nimble jasper
#

i played rogue sp more

#

fun comp

#

esp when you kill lock opener

#

cuz he cant wall in silence

#

and panic trinkets at 20% dies through

#

my priest being good made it fun too

lucid walrus
#

i enjoy the way a few functions of lock’s kit but i wish they weren’t so annoying to play into

nimble jasper
#

just mced a lock at 10%

#

with full dots on him

#

dies

#

warrior into lock was an awful experience

#

but lock teams greeded so hard

lucid walrus
#

god yeah

#

i was a 2s rat then

#

still sorta am

nimble jasper
#

double claw bomb go

#

doesnt press anything till 20%

#

dies in recheap on trinket

proud root
#

Is mirror legendary a must craft?

nimble jasper
#

kinda bad

proud root
#

Didn’t know it was a thing

lucid walrus
#

not anymore it isn’t

nimble jasper
#

any team with 2 braincells insta gets your reflect

proud root
#

Very new to warrior

lucid walrus
#

if it was like bfa reflect it’d be a diff story

nimble jasper
#

or your reflect gets eaten by fel firebolt

#

very cool

proud root
#

Then what’s the point of intervene

#

Seems like it doesn’t work most of the time

nimble jasper
#

save your teammate

proud root
#

Even though I stay nearby

nimble jasper
#

from the zugzug

lucid walrus
#

it’s a do-nothing button into casters beyond safeguard conduit

#

fantastic against melee though

nimble jasper
#

20% dr dece

#

but yeah

#

altho if you intervene somethingg like

#

a wwdk full pop

#

you might need to dbts

#

to not get clowned yourself

lucid walrus
#

wall or die fam

#

you either wall or you die

nimble jasper
#

like i swear I’ve seen warriors die

#

just raw intervening hero cleave or wwdk goes

proud root
#

Is the skill floor in 3s higher or lower

lucid walrus
#

when it was still 6sec i got smoked by a ret 10yds away without walling

nimble jasper
#

naturally higher cuz extra person factor

proud root
#

I just want to get easy rating

nimble jasper
#

you cant get glad in 2s

ancient sonnet
#

thatd be 2s then

lucid walrus
#

boy you shoulda been on this class the last 2 seasons

nimble jasper
#

also play hunter if you want easy 2s rating

ancient sonnet
#

can confirm

lucid walrus
#

but ya hunter has been king forever in 2s

nimble jasper
#

s1 venthyr warrior was basically necro dh

#

levels of stupid

#

just autopilot mongo dam

#

sit d

#

perma condemn charge

lucid walrus
#

shotgun weakaura

nimble jasper
#

hunters basically need their own 2s bracket

wet scarab
#

every class has an instant low yield spell to rip it off

nimble jasper
#

but then its just rogues at the top

#

for 2s

#

if you move hunters to their own

lucid walrus
#

rogue feels like such a losing battle

nimble jasper
#

outlaw is alot of fun to play but

lucid walrus
#

i liked the dynamic we had into them last season

nimble jasper
#

you can visibly watch people mald

proud root
#

I’d love ranged in their own 2s bracket and melee as well

nimble jasper
#

that you q into

lucid walrus
#

i enjoy melee-melee 2s infinitely more i’m ngl

#

same w/ cleaves for 3s

nimble jasper
#

ranged are kinda fun

#

like sp hybrid

#

is actually good

#

90% of ele in 2s are vesper morons

lucid walrus
#

sp looks like fun but i’m not wired for it

proud root
#

If I want easy rating should I just play turbocleave in 3s?

nimble jasper
#

i mean yes

mystic barn
#

its your best option

nimble jasper
#

altho you missed the boat

#

on s1 ret war

#

or s2 kitty/ret warr

proud root
#

What happened since then

nimble jasper
#

nerfs

#

🙂

proud root
#

Lmao

nimble jasper
#

druids no longer give them and their teammates 10% passive vers

#

for existing

proud root
#

Ahhh

raw summit
#

And vers isnt that godly anymore

#

Since Trinket change

proud root
#

Couldn’t find any kyrians anyway

scarlet barn
#

True

nimble jasper
#

still good

scarlet barn
#

Only god

#

Is me

nimble jasper
#

mage lock is the easiest comp now

#

for pts

wheat jay
nimble jasper
#

usually if you play a bursty comp into mage lock

wheat jay
#

Can I get a buff please,

#

?

#

Thank you

nimble jasper
#

best option is killing healer

#

cuz man’s prob a boosted ape

#

thats not used to being targeted

scarlet barn
proud root
#

Who

wheat jay
#

Ohhhh in wow

#

No

#

Still Hunter

nimble jasper
#

they still need to nerf assa tierset

#

only difference now is you have a gcd to dispel sepsis

#

before you die

sharp meteor
#

i mean even if they brick sepsis necro will be great

proud root
#

To mage burst

nimble jasper
#

outskilled kappa to my healer

sharp meteor
#

assa just so good

nimble jasper
#

after i statcheck someone

#

who trinketed nade opener

#

yeah necro assa still hella rot

#

you just should multidot in that case

lucid walrus
#

it didn’t reduce damage at all did it? overall it should be the same amount of damage but more spread out

raw summit
#

Yep

lucid walrus
#

gotcha

nimble jasper
#

yeah it just made vendetta no longer turbospeed the sepsis

raw summit
#

That's how i understand it

nimble jasper
#

it only makes dots tick 50% faster now during vendetta

#

instead of 100

#

so the damage of sepsis remains just takes longer to fully happen

proud root
#

Only :DDD

nimble jasper
#

actually true painge

raw summit
#

Ive never wanted to slam my head into wall as badly

#

As this outlaw

scarlet barn
nimble jasper
#

into kidney

#

into disarm

wheat jay
raw summit
#

I wont that game but holy shit

wheat jay
#

I've been a good boy

raw summit
#

Ive never been in more physical pain

#

Over a video game

lucid walrus
#

normal orc priest actually sounds dope

nimble jasper
#

altho outlaw vs warrior

raw summit
#

Orc sp

nimble jasper
#

you prob hit healer

#

cuz outlaw hitting plate

raw summit
#

I did hit healer

nimble jasper
#

not pogga

#

ye going outlaw also a trap

#

besides sub rog

#

cheap and shadowstrike go through evasion

raw summit
#

Doesnt op also go thru

nimble jasper
#

yes

#

but point is outlaw is good vs sustained dmg

#

while sub is literally a “burst every set of drs” spec

#

and kinda noodle people in between

undone pumice
#

burst is just kinda stronger than sustained dmg in pvp tho

#

at a low level at least

full quiver
#

Lol

nimble jasper
#

*in general

#

main difference is if you burst proper at low ratings people shit the bed and trade all their cds at once

mystic barn
#

Best part is sometimes you do have to trade all dcds at once and still die

undone pumice
#

man this game hard

mystic barn
#

no

undone pumice
#

ok

thick reef
#

guys bruin left rip

#

did something happen with him

#

idk just sucks gonna miss him and the meltdowns hope he joins back

full quiver
#

it's just not the same

earnest wharf
#

what spec is best for warrior doing jailer's gauntlet?

thick reef
tight totem
#

what talent setup r people running into mage lock?

#

double time, bloodrage, battle trance, slaughterhouse?

full quiver
#

running jg with mw

#

and farming em

near delta
warped warren
#

play dh lock

full quiver
#

jungle haha

near delta
#

Finally hit 2300 MMR in 2s

#

It's all R1s every game haha

full quiver
#

On fury

#

??

near delta
#

Yeah

#

We just won a ton of games so our cr is only like 22 something

near delta
dusty saddle
main silo
#

nice, what class do u play with deepakchoppa

dusty saddle
#

Is tauren mage gonna be good

lucid walrus
#

doubt

spice hornet
#

makes u want to bash your monitor in

proud root
#

Tauren mage is gonna be sick

sick tiger
#

Big mage Cow

#

Will be sick

fickle forge
fickle forge
elder wigeon
#

shimmer the warstomp

still mauve
#

as arms you want enduring blow with unity right?

sharp meteor
dusty saddle
proud root
#

Maybe you can even do Poly/Ring>Gpie>Fireball>Blink+War Stomp

fickle forge
#

DB+poly into Gpie+meteor into shimmer+stomp+combust

#

😎 👍

undone pumice
#

DB+poly into Gpie+meteor into shimmer+stomp+combust
😎 👍

proud root
#

thank you kanye, very cool

#

if I wanted 2100 rating very easily

#

should I play turbocleave or 2v2 with hpala/rsham

dense dagger
#

you should play rogue/mage

#

easiest 2.1k in your life

proud root
#

that's below me

undone pumice
#

literal chad

#

play turbo

elfin surge
proud root
#

turbo can be fury as well right?

elder wigeon
#

yes

proud root
#

is turbocleave a specific comp, or can it be everything from enhance to frost dk

warped warren
#

its warrior enhance

mild thunder
#

how do you guys beat aff/rdruiid?

#

or aff/hpriest

#

cause it feels like they just do giga-damage no matter what i do, and with that stupid ass trinket, theres jackshit i can do to stop it

#

and if its an rdruid, i just get kited to fuck

stiff dust
#

I go back to the game after 6 month, I look at which legendaries are the best and I see that.... how to make my choice?

undone pumice
#

deathmaker

#

consistant dam

#

signet

#

burst

stiff dust
#

ok

#

ty

undone pumice
#

id recomend dm

#

easier to play

stiff dust
#

100% loot drop ?

proud root
#

ye on mythic+

fickle forge
elfin surge
#

@fickle forge

fickle forge
#

@elfin surge @elfin surge

near delta
#

@elfin surge @fickle forge Y'all good?

fickle forge
#

Man's just dumb that's all

#

Return my snaps sometime though? @elfin surge

undone pumice
#

@elfin surge @fickle forge @near delta

elfin surge
#

fuck

raw summit
#

Copycat

near delta
mystic barn
#

lol

#

imagine mud responding to scoobz snaps but not kargs

#

sus

full quiver
#

@elfin surge how do you make focus charge macro

full quiver
#

Which slot do you think is best for unity

#

Should I use deathmaker smexxin says that's good

#

😂

elfin surge
#

@full quiver is fury better than arms?

full quiver
#

Idk how you streamed 5 days

#

Chat is fried

near delta
full quiver
#

I haven't felt the need to make it with RA and double time tbh

#

Might be play on arms in 2s

near delta
#

Me neither. It's probably troll but I wanna try it. Lol

full quiver
#

I was considering it beginning of season lol

#

Now I'm just a survival degen

near delta
#

Finally been playing my surv and its so fun

#

Need to get better control of my pet tho

full quiver
#

Yeah it feels a lot better than war

#

I do too, I think I don't have enough uptime on it on kt sometimes so MS isn't up as much as it should be

near delta
#

My biggest issue is my raptor keeps attacking people after I stun lol

#

So then I have to pull him back before trapping

full quiver
#

He stops attacking instantly when you trap

cunning acorn
#

Hey guys, been leveling all the melee classes and I have DK and Warr in the 50s now. Problem is I enjoy aspects of both. Which do you feel will have better success doing 2s with a resto druid and RBGs?

full quiver
#

Lol

#

Neither are good in 2s

undone pumice
#

hey guise what slot unity

fickle forge
#

Eyo guys arms or fury for 5v5?

undone pumice
#

hey guise battelord bis right

torn scroll
red herald
#

can somebody tell me what trinket i should go for as kyrian arms? is this quest weekly? if yes the first question probably doesnt matter

raw summit
#

Weekly

#

Get aegis

nimble jasper
wheat jay
#

is that the dogshit mmr game where warr+sham played dogshit, didn't use cds and used trinkets at WORST possible moments?

warped warren
#

for sure

sharp meteor
#

yeah funny clip but really he'd just 1v2 them on sub

#

like look it's two male tauren players

lime wasp
#

hey guys, I just started getting into pvp very recently, and I wanted to know if the battle trance talent was still bugged with reckless abandon for fury

raw summit
#

It's not bugged since you arent using raging Blow but crushing blow

#

It's just an unfortunate interaction

lime wasp
#

pvp guide on wowhead mentions that its a bug, but yeah unfortunate interaction indeed

#

time to swap out of battle trance then

bleak otter
#

how can I start doing rated pvp without any rating

#

do I need to find a friend and form my own group or?

#

is there any other way

raw summit
#

Make a pug or use a friend

near delta
wispy cedar
#

@full quiver

full quiver
#

what

near delta
wispy cedar
#

good man. how's the season been for you?

near delta
#

Pretty good. Toxic ass meta tho. lol

wispy cedar
#

ye. we've been doing affi shadowcleave which has been fun

full quiver
#

@wispy cedar are we good?

wispy cedar
#

no.

full quiver
#

"ye. we've been abusing over powered classes which has been fun"

#

-low

wispy cedar
#

you rerolled hunter