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4set craftable next wk
i pref aff in general but disenchanting somebody from 70% with a bolt into instant bolt is just too good
i can imagine
guessing demo doesn't see as much play compared to the other 2. those demonbolt outliers were nuts though
I'm starting to wonder if that ever happens
o it'll happen
theyl probably leave it like warrior and let it terrorize the ladder for 2 ssns
imo they remove infernal stun then nerf insta bolt by like 30 to 60 percent
maybe nerf fast bolt leggo buffing it, too
gotta pay ur reparations guys
Don't know why the infernal stun was ever allowed in pvp.
Necro arms last season was kind of a war crime
only in kitty
liar
the infernal stun is obnoxious but like most of the time you'll die in a soul rot havoc double mortal coil triple havoc chaos bolts
probably the first two chaos bolts only even
they can also aoe stun you with shadowfury
if they have six charges they just send havoc coil bolt you once into fast bolt then the third one is instant
so it's like three 25-30k+ bolts in the havoc>coil and u generally die
yeah exactly the infernal stun isnt what'll kill you
though it proccing multiple times in the game gives them openings
also the soul rot leggo lets them drain life from the whole team kekw
coil has gotta be one of the most infuriating ccs to get hit with
functions as a stun, acts like a fear
and heals you
20% flat heal to the lock too yea
also 45 sec cd
my lock is 3pc now I'm going to go to the dark side
tired of just spamming RoF in dungeons, high skill cap obv
oh and you can havoc cleave the mortal coil it's like 0 effort to force a trinket on a small go
if they don't cover it with something ur healer can sometimes get it if he's looking for it
or shaman can dispel it so only one person gets havoc'd
ground is a possibility but imo that has to be saved for big bolt
er instant bolt
this is true
feels about as bad as vortex into a hunter matchup doe
why do i see crushing blow on details for some wars?
reckless abandon turns raging blow into crushing blow (during reck)
ty
is slaughterhouse op?
wut
I'm okay with a rework on it to be 30% but last 8 seconds and be 4 stacks
40% is aids to deal with and keeping 8 stacks with 6 seconds is aids to do
40% ms that can have 100% uptime is op yeah
but we're not immortal gods spamming kidney every DR like assa
doesnt assass have that too?
Shiv but not perma 40%
its like
Assa is stupid op
i mean a class/spec can have something op without the spec being op
i only started playing pvp in the last bfa patch and i remember warlocks were completely fucked, but then i don't remember them really being an issue at the start of SL... but now they are
does the class just naturally scale with gear or something? or it's just coincidental that they seem strong later on
warlock seems far and away one of the best damage classes in arena in low rating at least
Is draven good for venthyr ?
what conduits do i play as kyrian arms? PV / CTR / MC?
its coincidental that they are giga strong but they do scale with gear because their main thing WAS hardcasting chaos bolt which became faster with haste
now they hardcast 1 and then instacast some
destruction was decent in the early season but demo was the real cancer
it's definitely the tier set
it's not just tier set, resolve is a big problem too
Okay feared him oh now he gets a free chaos bolt sorry.
5 seconds would be reasonable
that's not a destro lock problem
It is exclusively a destro and frost mage problem
No one else benefits from it nearly as much
Even aff and demo don’t benefit as much
fuck purple and light blue
you say that but when you can’t kick or cc a fully stacked drain you just watch your whole team die
and the affloc is invincible from conduit
A spec whose entire thing is hardcasting one hard hitting spell simultaneously getting the ability to not be kicked or ccd on it and to instant cast it is silly.
I hate queuing into those aff/DH teams
Any 2v2’ers with great success on fury?
between the 2 is arguably the better spec for 2s
So arms is worse in both types of content now?
Because the icy veins guide isn’t very detailed in the 2v2 department
2s isnt a warrior bracket anyways
Yeah I find myself struggling with any frost mage comp
Are you running warbringer/doubletime with blood rage?
Double charge, charge root, and the root break pvp talent
That's enough to really stick to them and if you get uptime they'll have to run even on their CDs cause they're so much squishier than fire
If you're doing 2s you're doing it for fun or because you're a masochist. Don't take it too seriously or you'll be upset.
Be like Mud, play with randoms
hasnt 2s alwayzs been shit for warr
@proud root fury is probably better for 2s but yeah 2s just aren't a great place for warriors atm.
Arms was brutal last season at least
Cata was alright
cata was cata
Ah damn bro, I guess you got to cast one spell. GG 😎 👍
Those are baby bolts
Did you see that details I posted over the weekend? Lol
Was playing with this hpak
*hpal
Cause I had parry on 😎 👍
Thank God.
Lmao
Out fucking played
Git gud
Imagine being so confident you're like nah man. I don't need kick
Don't need to kick a cast if I just global this kid
Top damage dealt? Spell Reflection duh
Good thing they nerfed aegis
Did they give some sort of reason for that?
Too stronk apparently
Oh yeah definitely
The PvP balance dev plays a wizard
blizzard mains rmp ig
It's funny
That's okay though, if I don't get eaten by CB, I'm always happy to open my dmg taken log and see I've sustained 60% from Frostbolt

Cause with the reduced health it jyst breaks then you can be safely resonators
*resonatored
clear skill issue, no?
Should of bubbled at 100%
Dude just needs to pre bubble at 8 stacks
Did he try lining
It's easy
It was so funny
The hpal I was playing with got infernal stunned
And bolted
Then took two more chaos bolts while in the infernal stun
Trinketed the stun but didn't have the global to get bubble off
They buffed destro right?
Lmfao
STOP. THIS SHIT IS EXPENSIVE
It was several weeks ago tbf
I know.
I was on my lock yesterday and killed a rogue through cloak. Because he cloaked while the 2 bolts were mid air
Literally the entire season
"Lol what a fucking idiot, he trinketed Vendetta+Sepsis+Smokebomb, now he doesn't have it for Vendetta+Sepsis"
https://app.squadov.gg/share/UnamiablyOpportuneMaryetta
They need to put an ICD on resolve and nerf the free bolt damage in pvp
Been playing some surv recently feinging the bolt with survival tactics is actually ridiculous
as we can see
skill issue
shouldnt have queued into a rogue
Just Q snipe all the DKs idiot
Multiple issues in that clip
- You're arms. Fool they nerfed that
- You actually queued 2s

Oh
"If aegis made it so you don't instantly die when a warlock looks at you, it'd be broken"
Lol dying in their burst dark soul window would be fine except you will die 20 seconds later again
Assuming you survived it
My fav part about MLX is LoS'ing for 20 sec vs DS and then 50 sec vs Deathborne, so that you have 40 sec to do something in before having to LoS 20 sec vs DS
Would just like to let everyone know that assa rogue is the biggest warrior counter.
That is all.
Thanks king
Outlaw does significantly less damage to warriors because plate. Which lets you feel safe enough to counter pressure.
Assa damage is all nature and bleeds which bypass armor.
they dont let you do any damage though
all 3 rogue specs dont let you do damage
outlaws i mean
Rogues dont die, you kill their teammate.
Survived my kidney? Lemme just Disarm your pressure now
It's not even Sepsis that's busted
It gets modified to the peak of mount olympus
Tier set pumps it with steroids and the Shiv and conduits take it to god tier levels
shoulda said delet rog :)
: )
It really is kind of reminiscent of BFA in that Assa once again feels like a better Arms
i swear 4p with necro assa wouldnt be bad
just rot more than burst
Anything with 4p would be enough
Do you guys use gladius or sarena
Unironically all four are good in different ways
Meaningful choice smh
Im liking sarena a lot
Wish I'd get to make one of those someday
Which addon is it with the overlay of cc on the characters “head”?
dont think venthyr is real
outside of meme onebangs
Big debuffs
Thanks a lot ^^
meme 1-bangs can get u into like top few hundred
why you putting the onedance rmpals on blast though
So NF was/is(?) the non meme onebang
yeah
And Venth the meme one
and monks
And prot Palas but deadge
yeah i mean the real nf oneshot
is play crit lego
and just vanish+sit in stealth
People still playing w/ rets?
i mean you can
Ret is butter disguised as a plate class
its actually insane when you think about it
No drs omegalul
ret is fine idk what people complain about
i could have sworn their magic dr works
then you have warlocks where dark pact is basically an immune
divine protection?
Eye for an eye
rets get fucked by mag dam
Dark pact needed that buff in SoD 💀
ret gets fucked or fucks
Ret has avengers shield on a 90 sec that absorbs like flat 20 or so
also can we talk about how mage has gotten defensively nerfed like
6-7x since s1
and still omega tanky
cuz they only touch mage shields
i feel like mage is weird to balance tbh
Alter
Ret melts if you one shot it
Like everything else
Has to go
Doesn't feel like it melts when they can heal lol
“good”
well yea when you tend to press buttons you tend to survive better
i swear if you queue in sandbag mmr the mages just fold
esp to like
sham meleecleaves

any good mage knows to avoid that
Alter is lowkey op as fuck
yeah i think its part of why they havent touched mage tankiness hard
yeah im shelfing my ret
bad mages die so easily
playing fury instead its just so much more fun
How do we get Tier on pvp gear?
In 10.0 Rogues, Mages and Priests available for all races.
Mages get their stun haha
Thiccc rogue, mage, priest
Eyo you guys like dragons?!
@craggy socket whereu getting this info
Tauren mage war stomping into poly and all that plus the increased crit damm sounds kinda brutal lol
🔥
stupid
about to get revered to enlightened finally - most of yall went unity neck, and signet ring?
Kul'tiran?
a what
BiS race?
Inc tauren rogue named Cowmooflage
isnt gnome only good in boomy meta
P sure undead better in rmp
But mich you think rogue ever goes idk tauren or some shit?
Everybody knows that if you play RMP, you play nelf ofc
tauren rogue is a good thing they'll have one more DR that will break their brains
how you justify invisible cows in the storyline though will be interesting
why was undead better in tbc?
I mean xar is undead
broke fear
But that's his decade old main
it still do
and didnt put your pvp trinket on cd
i mean
in tbc it also made you immune to fear/charm as well
isnt it better to fucking RESIST a kidney in tbc
for like the next 5 seconds
than break a fear
locks are just as broken
and didnt hit max level until 8.3
as mages historically
In 2s as fury do we just blow up the healer the whole game I keep seeing them so that every time and my healers just dies
bfa*
Well fury goes with what they can connect to better
And most healers are easy to eat
also depends on how much babysitting your healer needs or if they can kite
@undone pumice undead got gutted mid wotlk
Youll need to actively stop the fury if ur playing with a shaman
and human racial became a free cc break trinket
hey guys, which slots aree you guys making the tier pieces for fury?
so the game became female human face5 until legion
classic alliance favoritsm
alliance can still buy their version of the warlords deathweel
so far i have head shouldeers and hands, so i am thinking legs next week
unironically orc is the only reason
I’m going human immediately
no
Yes
troll has best pve racial
no?
haste > ap?
wtf is dworf racial
Remove all bleeds n shit
and magic dispel
both dark iron and reg dwarf do that
Oh and it's 10% dr
i forgot what passive dark irons get
Dark iron gains so much mainstat if u Dispell lots
reg dwarf crit dmg is superior
but troll is 10% haste innit
ah
over the years
Dorf is omega
time to race change into a gnome
to deal with all these frost mages
Fireblood: Removes all poison, disease, curse, magic, and bleed effects and increases your primary stat by 600 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec. 2 min cooldown.
too bad dorf racial
yeah BFa
Fireblood Dark Iron Dwarf Racial
Instant 2 min cooldown
Removes all poison, disease, curse, magic, and bleed effects and increases your primary stat by 183 and an additional 61 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec.
wowhead
increases your primary stat by 183 and an additional 61 for each effect removed. Lasts 8 sec.
this is the reg dwarf one
Removes all harmful Poison, Disease, Curse, Magic, and Bleed effects and reduces all physical damage taken by 10% for 8 sec.
food for thought
Honestly might not be worth
Since id lose my beloved dragonmaw tabard
but muh garrosh cosplay
Maghar has bad costomizations
only vulpera is good but thats only for m+ tanking
who knows
They literally look worse than reg orc
void elves have better racials
Idk hmt is kinda big
than any horde allied race
void elves get the bank or mailbox?
flat 5%?
Im p sure i have sent 100k Gold down the tmog drain
i think its just a proc thing
i spend so much gold on a tmog saying for sure i will stick with tihs one
then 2 days later im wearing some random tbc glad full set?
idk what happens in my brain
ah gobs get the bank andn ightborne get the mailbox$
of night elves
mechagnome
gnome is really good as a pvp racial
But looks so fucking shit
I think it also doesn't trigger the pvp trinket
mechagnome
full tauren rmp
Combat Analysis: You gather and analyze combat data every 5 sec, increasing your primary stat by 4, stacking up to 8 times. The data decays while out of combat.
32 main stat
they also have a heal at 20% health
Bad looking = 🚮
Emergency Failsafe: When you fall below 20% health, heal for 15% of your maximum health. This effect cannot occur more than once every 2.5 min.
Mastercraft: You function as a personal Blacksmithing Anvil, Cooking Fire, and Mining Forge. In addition, your limbs include every profession tool.
TOOLS
THEY ARE TOOLS GENTLEMEN
GET A MECHAGNOME IN YOUR RAID
they look dogshit
they look FUNNY
their racials are made with the explicit purpose of people not playing them in any content
implying people dont just use druid artifact skins
Is there a reason that the magic damage absorbtion trinket is used by everyone atm?
because a lot of your matches will be against warlocks and mages
Like does it dispel stuff as well or is it just a magic damage Ignore Pain
Magic IP
And it does better than the battlemaster Trinket into casters
(generally still not enough cuz lock op op)
Yeah played against 2x destro in 2v2 today
Wasn’t fun
What trinkets should I use as a human? I’ve got relentless trinket + primary stat proc trinket
Is medallion a bad choice?
well you have to run it in some matchups
but you essentially have no racial
barring human stats passive
Hmmm feels bad to play human compared to orc ngl
every race feels bad to play compared to orc
Nelf might even be better at that point, because at least you get a free LoS
cds so potent that sometimes if u don't have aegis to script into soul/limb or whatever u just die through
people able to drink with dots on them is dumb too
Dots should keep u in combat it's so stupid
Oh u have uh dot on u?
Ye pillar > stealth
it’d make bleeds insane tbf
i cant say i agree on dots keeping combat considering classes like priest
can spam a dot
with no real cost
Rend should 100% keep u in
cause its from warrior?
can’t say i agree
cloaked in shadows is just
dogshit design
whoever was smoking a major bowl
and designed that
got nerfed & it’s still strong
yeah
That's the restealth one ye?
just not s1 where i could sit in stealth
restealth absorb ya
for 30 secs eating
with full dots
also just the fact s1 mage could literally
1v2 melee healer in 2s
with 0 help
Not being able to ww em out 
while rogue eats
s1 mage was self harm inducing w/o a purge
tbh tho
i think s1 mage immortality was just as problematic
cuz the rogue legit doesnt have to come out
to save his mage
Wouldn’t nelf warr be pretty good in a lock/mage meta tho?
what for?
you can meld one bolt at best
meld like 2 casts every 2min just for them to slam you next global
assuming you dont get insta pulled out
by a proc infernal
meld operates like old stealth
You have time to Heroic Leap away then
one fart in the wind removes it
Or Intervene to your healer behind the wall
gonna be honest
you prob could have stopped the bolt
if you could play your char
to meld it
to begin with
and not be stuck in a coil
or fear
or poly
That’s true…
dying in a coil is the caster equivalent of getting killed in a ret’s war stomp
the best part about coil
is it picks bis pathing
aka
out of your healers los
9/10 times
i really enjoyed have to trinket a coil in s4
even better when it's a havoc coil that sends you to opposite sides of the pillar
Can you still Intervene+Spell Reflect btw?
i wish i was decent in s4 man
Or is it only damaging spells
i wasnt wdym
with mirror, sure. overwatch is no more
i was a 16yo rot warrior enjoyer lmao. didn’t know how the game worked
welfare duelist coulda been a drake
i played rogue sp more
fun comp
esp when you kill lock opener
cuz he cant wall in silence
and panic trinkets at 20% dies through
my priest being good made it fun too
i enjoy the way a few functions of lock’s kit but i wish they weren’t so annoying to play into
just mced a lock at 10%
with full dots on him
dies
warrior into lock was an awful experience
but lock teams greeded so hard
Is mirror legendary a must craft?
kinda bad
Didn’t know it was a thing
not anymore it isn’t
any team with 2 braincells insta gets your reflect
Very new to warrior
if it was like bfa reflect it’d be a diff story
save your teammate
Even though I stay nearby
from the zugzug
it’s a do-nothing button into casters beyond safeguard conduit
fantastic against melee though
20% dr dece
but yeah
altho if you intervene somethingg like
a wwdk full pop
you might need to dbts
to not get clowned yourself
Is the skill floor in 3s higher or lower
when it was still 6sec i got smoked by a ret 10yds away without walling
naturally higher cuz extra person factor
I just want to get easy rating
you cant get glad in 2s
thatd be 2s then
boy you shoulda been on this class the last 2 seasons
also play hunter if you want easy 2s rating
can confirm
but ya hunter has been king forever in 2s
s1 venthyr warrior was basically necro dh
levels of stupid
just autopilot mongo dam
sit d
perma condemn charge
shotgun weakaura
hunters basically need their own 2s bracket
every class has an instant low yield spell to rip it off
rogue feels like such a losing battle
outlaw is alot of fun to play but
i liked the dynamic we had into them last season
you can visibly watch people mald
I’d love ranged in their own 2s bracket and melee as well
that you q into
ranged are kinda fun
like sp hybrid
is actually good
90% of ele in 2s are vesper morons
sp looks like fun but i’m not wired for it
If I want easy rating should I just play turbocleave in 3s?
i mean yes
its your best option
What happened since then
Lmao
Ahhh
Couldn’t find any kyrians anyway
True
still good
Hey god, its me again
usually if you play a bursty comp into mage lock
best option is killing healer
cuz man’s prob a boosted ape
thats not used to being targeted
Are you playing warrior exclusively now?
Who
No, I am playing scrapper and shadowhunter
Ohhhh in wow
No
Still Hunter
they still need to nerf assa tierset
only difference now is you have a gcd to dispel sepsis
before you die
i mean even if they brick sepsis necro will be great
To mage burst
i’ve legit typed
outskilled kappa to my healer
assa just so good
after i statcheck someone
who trinketed nade opener
yeah necro assa still hella rot
you just should multidot in that case
it didn’t reduce damage at all did it? overall it should be the same amount of damage but more spread out
Yep
gotcha
yeah it just made vendetta no longer turbospeed the sepsis
That's how i understand it
it only makes dots tick 50% faster now during vendetta
instead of 100
so the damage of sepsis remains just takes longer to fully happen
Only :DDD
wait till everyone just plays outlaw in 2s
actually true painge
then yo ualready know the answer
full blind
into kidney
into disarm
But why god?
I wont that game but holy shit
I've been a good boy
normal orc priest actually sounds dope
altho outlaw vs warrior
Orc sp
I did hit healer
not pogga
ye going outlaw also a trap
besides sub rog
cheap and shadowstrike go through evasion
Doesnt op also go thru
yes
but point is outlaw is good vs sustained dmg
while sub is literally a “burst every set of drs” spec
and kinda noodle people in between
burst is just kinda stronger than sustained dmg in pvp tho
at a low level at least
Lol
*in general
main difference is if you burst proper at low ratings people shit the bed and trade all their cds at once
Best part is sometimes you do have to trade all dcds at once and still die
no
ok
guys bruin left rip
did something happen with him
idk just sucks gonna miss him and the meltdowns hope he joins back
it's just not the same
what spec is best for warrior doing jailer's gauntlet?
yea its not
what talent setup r people running into mage lock?
double time, bloodrage, battle trance, slaughterhouse?
JG?
jungle haha
I'm dumb lol
Grats
nice, what class do u play with deepakchoppa
Is tauren mage gonna be good
doubt
nice, pushing 2s as warrior is not fun lol
makes u want to bash your monitor in
Tauren mage is gonna be sick
Kill surv pet twice after he turtles and leaves it on low hp, still wins because 2s 😎 👍
War Stomp into sheep 😎 👍
shimmer the warstomp
as arms you want enduring blow with unity right?
Enduring Blows/Painbringer is a pretty fantastic generalist pick for Arms, yeah, and of course you'll want Unity.
That's what I was thinking with my small brain
Maybe you can even do Poly/Ring>Gpie>Fireball>Blink+War Stomp
DB+poly into Gpie+meteor into shimmer+stomp+combust
😎 👍
thank you kanye, very cool
if I wanted 2100 rating very easily
should I play turbocleave or 2v2 with hpala/rsham
that's below me
turbo
turbo can be fury as well right?
yes
is turbocleave a specific comp, or can it be everything from enhance to frost dk
its warrior enhance
how do you guys beat aff/rdruiid?
or aff/hpriest
cause it feels like they just do giga-damage no matter what i do, and with that stupid ass trinket, theres jackshit i can do to stop it
and if its an rdruid, i just get kited to fuck
I go back to the game after 6 month, I look at which legendaries are the best and I see that.... how to make my choice?
100% loot drop ?
ye on mythic+
General rule is signet for necro and deathmaker for kyrian, although both legos work with both
@fickle forge
@elfin surge @elfin surge
@elfin surge @fickle forge Y'all good?
@elfin surge @fickle forge @near delta
fuck
Psyduck
Copycat
Whatever I can find. I've had the best luck with rdruids and hpriests.
@elfin surge how do you make focus charge macro
/macro
Which slot do you think is best for unity
Should I use deathmaker smexxin says that's good
😂
@full quiver is fury better than arms?
Real men use leaper
I haven't felt the need to make it with RA and double time tbh
Might be play on arms in 2s
Me neither. It's probably troll but I wanna try it. Lol
Yeah it feels a lot better than war
I do too, I think I don't have enough uptime on it on kt sometimes so MS isn't up as much as it should be
My biggest issue is my raptor keeps attacking people after I stun lol
So then I have to pull him back before trapping
He stops attacking instantly when you trap
Hey guys, been leveling all the melee classes and I have DK and Warr in the 50s now. Problem is I enjoy aspects of both. Which do you feel will have better success doing 2s with a resto druid and RBGs?
Warrior
hey guise what slot unity
Eyo guys arms or fury for 5v5?
hey guise battelord bis right
:o
farmsry
can somebody tell me what trinket i should go for as kyrian arms? is this quest weekly? if yes the first question probably doesnt matter
is that the dogshit mmr game where warr+sham played dogshit, didn't use cds and used trinkets at WORST possible moments?
for sure
yeah funny clip but really he'd just 1v2 them on sub
like look it's two male tauren players
hey guys, I just started getting into pvp very recently, and I wanted to know if the battle trance talent was still bugged with reckless abandon for fury
It's not bugged since you arent using raging Blow but crushing blow
It's just an unfortunate interaction
pvp guide on wowhead mentions that its a bug, but yeah unfortunate interaction indeed
time to swap out of battle trance then
how can I start doing rated pvp without any rating
do I need to find a friend and form my own group or?
is there any other way
Make a pug or use a friend
Reasonably since everything else in the game changes to adapt the talent should as well.
@full quiver
what
@wispy cedar How ya be?
good man. how's the season been for you?
Pretty good. Toxic ass meta tho. lol
ye. we've been doing affi shadowcleave which has been fun
@wispy cedar are we good?
no.
you rerolled hunter






