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nimble jasper
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didnt pilav only get big

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because he abused s12 war?

undone pumice
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idk??

nimble jasper
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thats his own r1 iirc

undone pumice
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i think he got big because his training and diet were on point

ancient sonnet
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lol

nimble jasper
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the season warriors could 100-0 people

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with taste for blood

undone pumice
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wonderful

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so like

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every other dps?

nimble jasper
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also played kfc

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where stampede would oneshot anyone

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you dropped it on

undone pumice
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idk i thought lilav got big cuz of assmongoloid drama

nimble jasper
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🤷‍♂️

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asmon is a joke

ancient sonnet
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this

undone pumice
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u watch asmon to laugh at how miserable he is

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not because he makes uh anything special

nimble jasper
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people thinking he was good at pvp

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when he just found some r1s

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to carry him for stream clout

undone pumice
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connell r1?

nimble jasper
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bajheera

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slightly better but still carried by burn

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then theres the infamous meme of dekel playing arms prot mw to legion r1

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with 7 alts

undone pumice
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dekel

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seems cool but

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idk much about him

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apparently hes a cheater

nimble jasper
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idk how much of it is true tbh

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playing with a tank means you can stay perma battle

undone pumice
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he simply does more damage i heard

nimble jasper
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which means your damage should be higher naturally

undone pumice
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he just hits harder i believe

nimble jasper
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the accusation was stat bugging

undone pumice
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yea

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but

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how

nimble jasper
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dunno

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playing with a tank means you can sit in battle more

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might have just been that

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honestly

undone pumice
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what

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did prot used to have a raid buff??

nimble jasper
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prot takes part of all damage you take

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with the bodyguard honor talent

undone pumice
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is this still ingame

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i wouldnt know i dont play shield spec

nimble jasper
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dont remember if its in its legion version still

undone pumice
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shields are for losers

nimble jasper
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prot also used to be able to spam 1s root you

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which was umm…

undone pumice
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wtf

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tunderclao?

nimble jasper
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yeah

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memphis plays arms now so idk how good prot is

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anymore

undone pumice
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tank specs shouldnt be allowes into arena

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its cringe

nimble jasper
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s1 prot paladin

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18 secs of immunity

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with double horse

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btw

undone pumice
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yes

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i know

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i played during kyr rogue meta

nimble jasper
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i mean s2 was more of a kyr rogue meta

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than s1

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s1 kyr rogue lasted a week

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dw blizz will allowed terrorism from resolve 4p lock for months

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before it gets adjusted

undone pumice
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yeah i played during tgat week

mystic barn
undone pumice
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WHER LOCK NERF

flat isle
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HOW THE FUCK

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Frost and Destro dodge the nerf bat

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Ok

undone pumice
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at least assa tier is nerfed

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right guys

nimble jasper
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they should have touched

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assa 2p

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more than 4p

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imo

earnest wharf
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damn resto shm got a big output buff

undone pumice
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yeah

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they suck

nimble jasper
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all the assa nerf does is you die to sepsis slower

undone pumice
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donkey dick

earnest wharf
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BIG one, finally they may be viable

nimble jasper
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this is assuming you dont just see more outlaw rmps

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or sub rmps

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tbh

near delta
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Hmm I guess I missed the lock nerf peepostudy

sharp meteor
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HOLINKAAAA WHERES THE FUCKING DESTRO TIER NERF

near delta
near delta
nimble jasper
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just

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dispel it

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4Head

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o wait priest got no poison dispel

near delta
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"Rogues hate him" "beat every assa with this simple trick"

nimble jasper
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play survival?

tardy vale
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what leggos for 2s?

nimble jasper
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is that the trick

near delta
nimble jasper
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i should just

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play pirate on mine

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and laugh in every hunter’s face

near delta
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Can surv stand up to outlaw decently or nah?

nimble jasper
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it won last season

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idk about now

near delta
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What is the big outlaw counter?

nimble jasper
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sub

near delta
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Ah so it's like outlaw > assa, assa > sub, sub > outlaw?

tardy vale
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what are the stats weighs for kyrian

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2s

nimble jasper
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stat weights arent a thing in pvp really

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obtain versa

nimble jasper
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sub kinda just fucks with outlaw since cheapshot and shadowstrike both go through evasion

tardy vale
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ye but

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no need for mast?

near delta
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Generally speaking

tardy vale
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what about leggos?

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is it signet?
or dm

near delta
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Oh you're playing kyrian fury?

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That changes things a lot lol

tardy vale
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ye thats why i was askins x)

nimble jasper
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psure its a playstyle choice

near delta
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Probably still versa > haste > mastery

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Yea

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It's all very feelcrafty

nimble jasper
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sephuz as orc works in some matchups

tardy vale
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hmm

near delta
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I think a lot of kyr players prefer death maker just cause it's massive damm if you can sync it up with spear

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But signet would work great too prob

nimble jasper
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necro just

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big funny

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running around

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bonking people

tardy vale
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ye i dont have necro

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i lvld all other covenants

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for progress

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and i dont have the energy to level another cov

nimble jasper
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i leveled necro too

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i didnt level venthyr

near delta
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You honestly don't need much

nimble jasper
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cuz fuk that

near delta
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Like 40 should be enough to bonk people lol

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I missed out on venth warr

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Seemed p fun

tardy vale
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40? maybe at least till the last row

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maybe enhanced slots arent very needed

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since i have 278 maxed conduits

near delta
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Just the bit you get from the vendor in oribos

tardy vale
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hmm

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so ill go deathmaker and necro

near delta
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If you go necro sig is maybe better

wet scarab
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Omg assa and hpriest tier nerfs ;_;

near delta
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No one really knows we're all learning fury now

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Hold the phone

tardy vale
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hm

near delta
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They nerfed prot warrior before destro LOL

tardy vale
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what about trinks

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cc remove + what

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i have sigil

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should i abuse it

near delta
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You mean the pve trink?

tardy vale
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no like, trinkets in general

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sigil gives me 1.2k vers

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seems good for pvp

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for burst windows with spear

near delta
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So pvp has a trinket bonus

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Where you get a ton of stamina and main stat from having 2 pvp trinkets equipped

tardy vale
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hmmm, maybe then i take one of the new ones?

near delta
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The only new one that's really worth on warr is aegis

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Then the other is either badge or insignia which is preference really

tardy vale
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what about medallion

near delta
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Depends on if you're human or not

tardy vale
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im orc

near delta
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Yup always take medallion

tardy vale
nimble jasper
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check mud’s thing

tardy vale
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wym

nimble jasper
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checkpvp mud’s char

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for his condis

tardy vale
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@elfin surge whats ur char name

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monkaW

nimble jasper
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mud

wheat jay
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Mud

tardy vale
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oh literally

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nice

wheat jay
tardy vale
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is honor capped like valor?

mystic barn
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it has a cap technically but not a weekly cap like valor

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as long as you keep below 15k honor you arent wasting it

tardy vale
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i see

raw summit
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Any nerf hot takes

spice hornet
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Where’s the destro nerfs hello

flat isle
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They're perfectly balanced obviously

near delta
sharp meteor
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people gotta die

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I'm no longer asking

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-hiloinker

near delta
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Next season we get the c4 trinket

mystic barn
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tomorrow is going to be great

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the abuse will begin

thick reef
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hey people!

near delta
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Is tomorrow 4 charge day?

thick reef
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is there pinned info updated?

mystic barn
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tomorrow is 4pc destro abuse day

thick reef
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I see different recommendation for fury pvp talents in wowhead guide...

near delta
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Vs hunters, mages, druids, rshams blood rage is big value since you can consistently get out of their roots

tardy vale
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whats the green shockwave that appears after u charge

near delta
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Warbringer especially combined with double time is really good against any ranged or melee that kites a lot like ww or dh

tardy vale
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at least on mud stream

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when i charge im not seeing it

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monkaW

near delta
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Prob a glyph lol

tardy vale
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oh i see

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thought it was some extra dmg stuff

near delta
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A lot of people like enduring rage but it's pretty meh imo. Once we get 4 set you're always getting rampages but it could be nice to keep up warpaint in a stun or something

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Battle trance is just generally good for some healing and rage but it's bugged with reckless abandon so kinda awkward. Good general pick

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Then finally disarm is good into arms warriors, rogues, dks, and maybe DHs.

sharp meteor
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disarming demonic reduces their output by quite a bit

near delta
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Yeah I usually try to take it for that

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I'd take it against outlaws but I still have no idea when to use it lol

steep oyster
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hi guys returning WAR here because i heard fury is good now in pvp, been playing it a lot and just crafted my 291 signet, was wondering if you guys could help ans the ff:

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  1. do you Recklessnes after charge since u might bladestorm, when do you cancel the bladestorm early to rampage. 2) do you need to wait for 4 strikes of rampage before pressing a gcd 3) do you pop reck without being enraged sometimes 4) is it worth running reckless abandon with signet or get more recks with anger management 5) is it okay to not run stormbolt for furious charge warbreaker been seeing a lot of warriors built like this
near delta
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@thick reef I hope that helps a bit. I usually take slaughterhouse, warbringer, and battle trance as my defaults. And I trade out battle trance for battle rage against a root team or disarm vs something it'd good against

nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor ngl idk how much the sin nerf is gonna change anything

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i played one game last week and the guy died before healer’s resi detonated

sharp meteor
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oh full sepsis send will still eat people

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Twist your blades into the target's wounds, causing your Bleed effects on them to bleed out 100% faster.

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reminds me i needed to try this

nimble jasper
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nah not worth

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you lose toxic blade

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which increases sepsis dam

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and sepsis isnt a bleed

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we usually played one game a week for box and typically went like this

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send one go in opener with resonators get every cd

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kill 2nd stun dr

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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only suggested 2nd go to have alacrity haste for the real sepsis setup

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the talent that causes shiv to increase your nature dam

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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both

sharp meteor
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am i fried

nimble jasper
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wait am i high now

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hmm

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oh wait it became a shiv rank

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shows you how much i played this spec

near delta
# steep oyster 1) do you Recklessnes after charge since u might bladestorm, when do you cancel ...
  1. Just kinda depends. Bladestorm is crazy damage as fury. Biggest thing is if slaughterhouse is gonna fall off. 2) Nope. Just press away. 3) sometimes. It's optimal to wait but sometimes you just need to send. 4) RA is really good once you get 4 pc, but Smexx is top of the ladder with AM so both are good. 5) don't think I've seen anyone run furious charge, warpaint is what makes fury good. Do you mean double time for 2 charges and warbinger? If so, yeah it feels really good into a lot of stuff.
nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor i feel like the answer is no though

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purely because it doesnt make poisons expire quicker

sharp meteor
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ya but in a single kidney which is gettin more value

spice hornet
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Bladestorm the assass kidney

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His big fuq fucks u anyway

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Dam

steep oyster
near delta
sick tiger
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having trouble against MM hunter, is there any generic advice I can take as it feels like I'm just doing everything wrong against them and get bursted into high heaven (as fury sorry!)

spice hornet
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Leap on him and either disarm, fear, or bolt the double tap

full quiver
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I like to leap disarm him on the big trueshot double tap go

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Usually they insta trinket at which point you can storm bolt and counter go

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If you're playing double time warbringer you can fear in their trinket instead of sb if your healer is cc

near delta
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I've been running into mms with echoing lately. Super annoying

earnest wharf
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have yall seen Jellybean's 1v2 series with MM? That dude is so freakishly good

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he does a live commentary on what the enemy is about to do before he counters it picture perfect, pretty awesome

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it's only at like 1700 but still really impressive. He has his healer run out and instantly suicide without pressing a button, and starts the match real 1v2

sharp meteor
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i swear streamers smurfing is why everybody is so aggro

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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people just give up

sharp meteor
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but i guess it's probably the best thing in the "people gotta die" pacing of things

nimble jasper
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I think I see that mostly with rogues

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lmao

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cuz i swear all the really good rogues are giga aggro besides like

sharp meteor
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yeah every rogue burning 80% of their buttons in the first 20 seconds

nimble jasper
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snutz

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thing is r1s like pika do it and live

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rando 1600 rogue dies for it

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or its when you just tell healer "uhh i trinked like a monkey send halp"

sharp meteor
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i do love pikas energy and positivity

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every game is just hoping he trinkets a non-stun because you're at low health

mystic barn
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I dislike pika bullying 1600 players every time I watch his stream

near delta
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Wtf pika has 3144 2s games this season lol

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64 games every single day since the season started

mystic barn
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it’s his job

sharp meteor
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he had like 18k during s1

mystic barn
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Still less than leoww

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How has league of legends graced you

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Now that you play that instead of wow

near delta
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It hasn't lol.

sharp meteor
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ew legolegens

near delta
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I haven't played it in like 12 years

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They changed my favorite champion and I was done

mystic barn
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which one

sharp meteor
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thinkin about her (old swain)

near delta
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Twisted Fate

mystic barn
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they slightly changed singed when I was maining him and terrorizing diamond

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ew ur one of those people

near delta
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That was a long time ago lol

undone pumice
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wtf

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they havent chnaged tf since beta @near delta

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and thats cuz he was op

near delta
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Yeah this was beta lol

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Like 2010

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Or something

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I just didn't like the attack speed change I think I don't really remember to well

undone pumice
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he still just throws cards and teleports behind you

near delta
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32 year old me doesn't remember what 19 year old me was thinking tbh

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I think that's when the teleport was global which was absurd

mystic barn
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it was

dense dagger
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2s games barely take time

knotty tangle
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Its 20 sec queue + 1 min mandatory wait time

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Plus 20 sec to 5 min games, avrage prob about 2 min

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Its a lot of time for a casual player. But not a proffesional one

red herald
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guys what is the easiest spec / covenant to gain rating in arena? i can play both fury and arms. i heard fury smacks but i have no idea what covenant to play.

green lintel
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Is Fury, hunter and holy priest a good comb?

undone pumice
red herald
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what legendary do i go for as necro?

raw summit
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Deathmaker or Signet

red herald
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aight

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ty guys

undone pumice
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stable phantasma lure also viable

idle oxide
# undone pumice venthyr fury for sheer easy necro fury for slightly harder but more rewarding

I know Venthyr Arms hits like a wet noodle. Tried it last week it was so bad.
Is Venthyr Fury any good? Necro seems ez pz, not sure why Ventyr Fury would be something to play.
With 4set and Deathmaker etc, you already have so many raging blow resets you basically spam raging and dump rampage. 2 button dps with an execute every now and then.
I don't see how 4 set Fury would benefit from Condemn at all???

raw summit
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I tried it

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Didnt like

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All u gotta do as necro is Pop Banner before a Rampage

undone pumice
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venth fury is just

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an option

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?

sharp meteor
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Venth Fury feels good, yeah.

raw summit
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Maybe it's cuz im 50 Venth renown

sharp meteor
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Necro just has that massive go/speed as well as healer mastery boost

undone pumice
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its situationally better than necro

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but

sharp meteor
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Kyrian has spear that's good for locking somebody down offensively or defensively

undone pumice
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necro is never bad

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kyrian is bad a lot in 2s

sharp meteor
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Idk I think it's a tossup between kyrian or necro depending on what you're queuin gand what you're queuing into

undone pumice
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necro has great burst

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venthyr just has magical damage

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is why its an option

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🦶

idle oxide
# undone pumice venthyr just has magical damage

but why? Rampage gives enrage and chance to reset raging blow.
Raging blow gives rage and procs Siegebreaker with 4set.
What does condemn give to Fury? IMO nothing - it actually makes a 4set fury worse, because you want to prioritise Rampage over Condemn, any day all day.

undone pumice
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its better into plate classes

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because they have more armor

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and armor does nothing vs shadow dmg

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raging blow also doesnt proc siegebreaker

idle oxide
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rampage, sorry

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not raging

undone pumice
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also wrong

idle oxide
undone pumice
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raging blow procs reck for 4 sec

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and rampage procs siegebreaker

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so when you proc reck with 4pc

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you can condemn to extend it

idle oxide
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i forgot about this synergy.

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that makes sense

undone pumice
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its more about

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doing magic dmg

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than that synergy imo

elder wigeon
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reck procs are 3 seconds, and you extend by 2 seconds, it's really uncommon to have a SD proc when you proc reck

idle oxide
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but that is a proc on a proc on a proc 🙂 lotsa RNG needed.

undone pumice
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its not

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condemn can be used on targets above 80

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below 20 or 35

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so

elder wigeon
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go ahead and play venthyr man

undone pumice
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you raging blow a full life target

elder wigeon
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I'll stick to necro

undone pumice
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you get reck

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you condemn

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you get more reck

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im not gonna play venthyr tyvm

elder wigeon
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why are you shilling venthyr then

undone pumice
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because

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funny vampire

elder wigeon
idle oxide
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Yeah, i just dont see it. Arms Venthyr just doesnt do well. I cannot see why Venthyr Fury would be strong.
To me, Necro is king, still, Kyrian with Turbo. Venthyr is a meme build, same as NF.

elder wigeon
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arms venthyr is trash

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it's fun but trash

raw summit
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Red funny spell trash

elder wigeon
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I personally like condemn

undone pumice
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venthyr isnt bad

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none of the covenants are actually bad for fury

elder wigeon
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arms isn't so hot right now and you combine probably the worst pvp cov for arms with it and you start sandbagging it harder than it needs to be

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in this meta, NF arms is probably better imo

undone pumice
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venthyr offers the highest consistant dmg
nf offers biggest burst
kyrian offers lockdown
necro offers a good burst with a bunch of utility

raw summit
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Im p sure venthyr drags down consistent since ud rather spend the global in crushing blow

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Not condum

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Since cb is more damagé

elder wigeon
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yeah but 20 rage + absorb shield + reck extend

undone pumice
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yes

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u just press condemn when u can

raw summit
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In pve u pref condemn over cb

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But it's akward as hell

idle oxide
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i'm pretty sure someone like Mud will never even touch venthyr Fury, so I think I'mma do the same.

undone pumice
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smexxin touched it

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smexxin licked it

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smexxin caressed it

sharp meteor
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I mean smexxin played it

idle oxide
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I'll have to go check it out then and see.

undone pumice
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kyrian + necro are best

sharp meteor
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Nec/Kyrian better imo but experimenting is fine

undone pumice
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venthyr solid alternative

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nightfae weakest

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but its not bad

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either

sharp meteor
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kncokdown fks with people

undone pumice
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yea

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the fact its not stun drd is good

raw summit
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NF is funny

sharp meteor
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was wondering if it'd b funny in rdruid turb

raw summit
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Haha 30k ded

sharp meteor
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static field into vortex + pixie slam

undone pumice
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makin u feel like a lock

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without range

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or tankiness

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or dots

idle oxide
undone pumice
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before

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it was still good

grand scaffold
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does venth fury run death sentence even?

undone pumice
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not needed with 4pc and RA

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but u can instead of btrance if u want to

grand scaffold
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do they even run massacre?

undone pumice
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u can

grand scaffold
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is it better that way?

undone pumice
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probably?

wooden geyser
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which spec do most hunters use in pvp?

fickle forge
rapid shore
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:D

grand scaffold
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atm surv hunter

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bm is a close second

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marksman is the clear winner in rbg's tho

wooden geyser
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okay thanks 🙂

quasi minnow
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Is Deathmaker or Signet better for fury? cause it seems to be nearly 50-50?

elfin surge
hollow mist
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Hey guys, which should I get here?

dense dagger
hollow mist
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hehe ty

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sorry bout dat

dense dagger
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aegis good for mage defense

quasi minnow
dense dagger
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resonator good to drop in spear

elfin surge
quasi minnow
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Should unity be crafted on ring or neck also? or does it even matter?

hollow mist
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ty all!

quasi minnow
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alrighty ty!

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Gotta say all these choices with conduits, covenants, leggos etc is a tad confusing

elfin surge
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fr

grand scaffold
frozen raven
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When are you supposed to fleshcraft? As soon as you load in or right before the gates open?

dense dagger
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I do it after priest buff, if not priest, as fast as possible

frozen raven
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Ight

dense dagger
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so you get it up faster mid fight

frozen raven
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Yeah

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Thanks

dense dagger
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you can also prevent stun if you time an opener

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but still kinda sus

raw summit
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In opener is neat if u know what ur doing

undone pumice
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only if u are marileth tho

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heirmir supremacy

raw summit
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More ducks

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!!!

steep oyster
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do you execute during RA or just RB spam, or is that only worht it w the tier set

raw summit
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Rb during ra hurts more than fury exe

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P sure

steep oyster
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even w/o the set?

raw summit
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At 2 set it gains extra dam

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Granted i got no opinion on that since ive never been 0p andy

mystic barn
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wheres berry

raw summit
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Is this a dn joke

mystic barn
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who

raw summit
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My name deez

steep oyster
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is impending victory better than other 25s

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in 2s

raw summit
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I like it a lot

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With the conduit it heals a fuck ton

steep oyster
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oo

undone pumice
#

it depennds on ur healer

#

if ur healer has a stun i would take ip

wicked bison
#

any of these pvp changes impact anything

undone pumice
#

rsham no longer trash

#

only enviormentially unfriendly now

mystic barn
#

hpriest gets less lay on hands per games

robust hearth
#

Stupid tht they nerfed the prot warrior set bonus

#

Literally no prot warrior was above 2k rating it was literally only a problem to low mmr ppl tht didn't know how to push their defensives

#

Prot warrior b4 the nerf felt fun and felt like Glad stance warrior back in WoD

raw summit
#

Who gives a shit tho? Tanks dont belond in arena gladge

robust hearth
#

Says who?

ancient sonnet
#

this

robust hearth
#

Tanks don't belong in arena lol, y because no big dn 1 shot?

raw summit
#

Tanks in arena generally always is aids

robust hearth
#

Lol it be cool to have a support like class tht isn't just black and white no straight healer or no straight damage but a mixture of both

raw summit
#

Pwar isnt a major offender of this

#

But it's very very annoying

#

And i dont wanna see it

robust hearth
#

Lol then y cry about it

raw summit
#

That's what im doing rn

#

Id rather have glad spec back

robust hearth
#

Literally it's just push ur defensive and survive the 1 shield slam, and then survive for 1:40 mins till next cool down it was pretty cool to act as a meat shield for my partners

#

Lol thts Literally what prot was pre nerf

raw summit
#

Ye im not saying pwar was broken

robust hearth
#

How is it any different than any other arena comps

raw summit
#

It's a tank and if you let one in you let them all in

#

And i dont want s1/2 prot pala type shit again

robust hearth
#

Most is pop cds if they didn't die, wait till CDS are back up and go again. Literally no difference

#

But people Literally know how to counter it lmfao

#

Like I'm failing to understand what a legit reasoning for not wanting prot specs to be viable at all in arenas other than " I don't like it"

raw summit
#

That's the entire reason

#

I dont like specs with the entire idea behind them to be just live

robust hearth
#

You Literally said "I'd rather have glad stance warriors back" but that basically what was prot warriors were pre nerf soo LOL

raw summit
#

Ones a dps the others a oneshot meme that turtles off cds

robust hearth
#

So is RMP lol

#

RMP is a 1 shot meme lol

raw summit
#

No?

robust hearth
#

Rogue fails to kill target? Rogue runs to restealth and go again 🤡

#

Or ret war

full quiver
#

i thought prot was fine

raw summit
#

The thing is you are arguing against my preference here

#

Im not gonna change that

robust hearth
#

Ret warz keep running like Scooby-Doo doo till their cds and defensive are blown 🤡

raw summit
#

This isnt objective in any way

#

I dont like tanks.

#

That's it

full quiver
#

calm down mud

#

😆

raw summit
#

Mud would hit you with a "we good?"

jaunty furnace
#

Did they nerf the prot warrior 4 set or can you still one shot everyone

raw summit
#

By 50%

#

Odds are that's not enough

undone pumice
#

you prefer some bitches

full quiver
#

lol

mystic barn
#

"omg prot warrior no longer a support class in arenas when it cant crit for 80k"

undone pumice
#

simply

#

abuse bodyguard

raw summit
#

Safeguard

undone pumice
#

same shit

raw summit
#

Except on Real classes

elfin surge
#

@jaunty furnace

barren crane
#

U guys reflect unstable aff? Or save for something else

full quiver
#

i try to reflect coil

jaunty furnace
#

@elfin surge good

elfin surge
mystic barn
#

LMAO

jaunty furnace
full quiver
mystic barn
#

no

#

@elfin surge you aren’t good with scoobs right

elfin surge
#

we bad @full quiver

raw summit
#

when can we see you two duel it out in durotar

full quiver
#

stay out my dms then

#

i have a TIER 1 SUBSCRIPTION

mystic barn
#

To his snap?

raw summit
#

mud paid snap

#

💀

steel rune
simple rock
#

and warr cleaves

pseudo bobcat
#

how will warr be for wotlk

simple rock
#

very good

#

probably top tier esp in end phases with pve bis

raw summit
#

Smourne

#

And fuck em

near delta
full quiver
#

let me switch spec in arena gate

near delta
mystic barn
#

no

little lava
#

what do u think about reflect leggo?

full quiver
#

jg team?

#

swap to prot

#

kek

near delta
# mystic barn no

Just cause your other option is bad doesn't mean we need to be limited ratge

mystic barn
#

you wouldn't understand the toxic ramifications of spec swapping in gates

#

and if that happens i would just go blood every game

#

and be cringe

near delta
#

Lmao fair

#

God you think it's mm then they swap to bm

#

Or something

raw summit
#

Feral turned resto

#

2 healer

mystic barn
#

you would probably see rogues swap to outlaw every game

full quiver
#

just make it like league

#

where you ahve to lock in 30s before it starts

near delta
#

The trinket cd is super annoying

raw summit
#

^

mystic barn
#

should be able to swap class in gate

near delta
#

I get what they're trying to prevent

#

But it's actually problematic

near delta
full quiver
#

That'd be kinda fun

kind sail
#

/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"Disarm" or G"Spell Reflection")
does anyone know how this syntaxis works?

near delta
#

That can only be used when you're not in combat

kind sail
#

I find it on internet, I want to use disarm if talented, if not, spell reflection

#

but i want to see the right tooltip

near delta
#

You always want spell reflect though

#

Even if you have disarm up

kind sail
#

I play DH, but thats the example I find on internet hahaha

near delta
#

Yeah those don't work anymore unfortunately

kind sail
#

I want to use an skill if pvptalented or another if not

near delta
#

There's no way to have a macro based on pvp talents afaik

kind sail
#

D:

near delta
#

Can do it for normal talents

kind sail
#

No way

#

Fk blizzard

near delta
#

I mean you don't want that lol

#

You always need spell reflect on your bar regardless of if you have disarm

kind sail
#

Yeah but when i play DH i want to use glaive tempest (M+ content) or Rain from above (PvP)

#

And i want a macro so i dont switch manually

near delta
#

Ah I see

undone pumice
#

it used to wrok

#

when spell reflect was an honor talent

near delta
#

Ohhh yup lol

undone pumice
#

in BFA

kind sail
#

#Showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/3] Glaive tempest
/cast Rain from above

that works pretty fine BUT it doesnt show RfA tooltip

#

Do you know any way to show the right tooltip?

near delta
#

It should only show the tool tip

#

If you have the pvp talent selected and are in war mode or a pvp instance

ancient sonnet
#

For as little as you use Rain From Above it shouldn't be hard to swap in imo

kind sail
ancient sonnet
#

Yea I suppose lol

tribal wedge
#

hey guys, how did the cosmic gladiator's echoing resolve work? i don't understand with the tooltip

sharp meteor
#

makes cc/lockouts last 20% longer

#

getting cc'd or kicked makes u immune to next cc/kick within 15

#

aka u bolt a guy then charge off the immunity

#

bigdebuffs or weakauras good for traacking when they have buff/immunity

tribal wedge
#

ok i see

#

is there a cd?

raw summit
#

no idc

#

for some fucking reason

tribal wedge
#

seems a bit op

near delta
raw summit
#

Warlock or mages casting poly and Chaos bolt to ur face

#

U cant do shit

nimble jasper
#

only classes like monk get a free way to deal with it

#

since disable root eats the buff

near delta
#

Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. Warlock and mage haven’t been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry

near delta
nimble jasper
#

🙂

#

woulda thunk

near delta
#

Rogues too but not against mages with blink stun lol

elfin surge
raw summit
elfin surge
#

mages after receiving a 25% nerf to the reason they out heal healers

#

also d stance keks

last prairie
#

Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. Warlock and mage haven’t been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry

raw summit
#

Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. Warlock and mage haven’t been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry

mystic barn
#

arms is the best melee spec rn

lucid walrus
#

meleecels be seethin over castchads

hasty fractal
#

Warriors in 2's are not so hot now it seems?

raw summit
#

not too hot

warped warren
warped warren
raw summit
#

Good pfp eto

#

Looks nice

elder wigeon
near delta
#

Fury is aight imo, but there are so many rough matchups

little lava
#

is jailer weapon even worth playin in 3s?

wet scarab
#

I’m optimistic about pvp tuning. The language of the hotfix notes sounds like it was written differently than previous hotfix notes (“when engaged in combat with enemy players” vs “in pvp combat” usually). Sounds like they hired a new intern

steep oyster
#

should i spend my conq on both weapons as fury first or is one weap + other stats better? any tips to farm tier set better?

elder wigeon
#

I don't think anyone has it though so it's kind of a non-issue

#

but it's better than jaithys for sure, relatively speaking

near delta
#

Did anyone in awc play with it? I know all the monks were using the fist thing last season.

elder wigeon
#

It might not be best for the awc, it's cheesy on ladder because most games don't make it to dampening

near delta
#

Lol yeah sounds right

steep oyster
#

does impennding victory + indelible victory conduit work?

#

is it any good

sharp meteor
#

Yep. Yep.

steep oyster
#

ohh nice

#

how do u unlock al lthe conduits at 200? cant seem to find the vendor

#

am done w all the campaigns and trying to fix my conduits for pvp but all the guides say its the guy in oribos but hes not selling any

sharp meteor
#

I think you need Renown 80 for them to show up.

#

Just once, on any char.

steep oyster
#

im renown 80 but

#

cant find it 😦

spice hornet
#

is afflic dam acceptable

#

or is this game so dead nobody cares

sharp meteor
#

Just wait until they start toying with itemization, it'll go up another 10-20%

lucid walrus
indigo barn
flat tide
#

What's better for playing with a Frost DK in threes as fury, kyrian or necrolord?

spice hornet
#

did details update or something cause now i can finally see tthe death log of enemies when i hover over their death

#

never showed that before

mystic barn
#

yes

still mauve
#

fury better then arms in 2s?

#

and arms stronger in 3s right

undone pumice
#

arms fury prob equal 3s

#

arms more utility

warped warren
#

?!

#

unpossible

undone pumice
#

ndogo showing his world record speeds once more

scarlet barn
#

Always

grand scaffold
#

lol

mellow depot
#

As a fury warrior, is it better to have legendary on legs and get tier item on hands, or get it on cape and have legs as tier item?

idle oxide
#

question, does Depths of Insanity conduit not affect the 4set Recklessnes Proc? Meaning 3 secs should be 5+secs depending on conduit level?

idle oxide
flat tide
#

What's better for playing with a Frost DK in threes as fury, kyrian or necrolord?

undone pumice
#

both are good

#

it dont matter

#

imo

cyan lake
#

Any of yall try PvP as Prot Spec?
Yes, i have an Orc Arms warrior as wel. Im playing Prot to change things up.

#

Forsaken Prot, NF.

steep inlet
#

It’s nerfed by 50%

#

Too late my friend

vapid ruin
#

does someone have the same problem? crafted tier item but no tier set on it

clever knoll
#

Does anyone know if there is a document with all the stuff we can intervene? mostly wondering about monk parlysis?

wheat jay
#

its feet

wheat jay
#

sorry bro

#

you fucked up

vapid ruin
#

oh well

#

im dumb af

raw summit
#

It kinda gives a preview

#

I hope this wasnt your 4p slot

fair canyon
#

@cyan lake they barely nerfed it, mine was critting for ~67k vs cloth, now its still about 55k

vapid ruin
raw summit
#

Oh no

#

I dont even know if u use my cc

#

Since im all pvp tier since a week gladge

vapid ruin
#

i was looking at what gave the best stats and completely neglected the tier set preview

raw summit
#

Got lucky now i gotta get good

undone pumice
#

month of silence

cyan lake
#

Im cool with not 1 shotting people. I believe no class should.
I was curious if anyone played it, was looking for tips in RBG's.
I know Prot is F class Tank for RBG. But its just been so much fun.
I honestly think they would be good for just the disruption alone, and roll a Bear as an FC.

undone pumice
#

no

#

its not good

#

but play prot if u want bro

undone pumice
still mauve
#

is fury better then arms in 2s?

#

or are they equal

undone pumice
#

fury >>>>>arms in 2s

simple rock
#

fury 4 set in 2s is just silly

#

running it down killing ppl through all cds keks

still mauve
#

maybe wrong channel, but just started playing pvp this season, at 1.4k rating now and i have 1% towards the mount

#

how many wins is it to get to 100? O.O

finite fox
#

Yal think jungle most busted comp currently?

fair canyon
#

@still mauve depends if u are doing 2s or 3s, but it only counts games over 1k rating

still mauve
#

ah so 2s are slower?

#

got 2% now, think thats like 6-7wins over 1k

finite fox
#

I also feel like it goes up with more rating I get 1% per win at 1800 in 3s

thick reef
#

Which dps is the most broken atm in terms of output damages for you?

undone pumice
#

burst or consistant?

orchid snow
#

can anyone tell me what the hell is the ability called crushing blow in pvp?

#

can't find it anywhere but it dealt a lot of dmg to me in arena

#

it's supposed to be a warrior ability but can't find it anywhere

undone pumice
#

when you use reckless abandon

#

and pop recklessness

#

ur raging blow becomes crushing blow

#

it has a mini charge and does BIG damage

orchid snow
#

ty!

dark sparrow
#

Some would even dare say, nuclear dam

elfin surge
raw summit
#

Do i pull a crusader and open Box as fury lootspec

mystic barn
#

open it as prot

full quiver
raw summit
#

Didnt you see the Clip

#

1 slot box

#

Got 1h

#

screams

full quiver
#

LOL

#

Fuckkkk

#

I got a tier piece on 2 chars giving them 4pc and a second wep on alt warrior yesterday

#

Was a good day

raw summit
#

Imma get 2nd wep

#

I can feel it

#

1 slotter cuz lazy

full quiver
#

It was crit wep

#

But whatevs

#

I'll take it lol

raw summit
#

Idrc Stick is Stick

full quiver
#

My 18% haste fury war lmao

#

Reee

raw summit
#

Worse case i got enough to buy 2nd wep

#

cape

#

idk maybe i take it so i can play signet with s3 cloak

viscid bluff
#

is sham heal good in pvp

undone pumice
#

no

raw summit
#

got buffed

#

so idk

undone pumice
#

still a no

raw summit
#

we havent seen it

cyan lake
#

I mean, Are they Bad?
Or is it players are so use to playing with the Meta and have gotten lazy with trying new things?

warped warren
#

got buffed

#

so uhm

#

could work

raw summit
#

so unless buffs make up for it a lot

#

🚮

copper hare
#

damn, pvp tool is always empty again

#

already*

cyan lake
#

We are talking about a Prot warrior.

shell light
copper hare
#

lfg

cyan lake
#

Wait till 5-7ET

copper hare
#

thats usually prime time for europe

#

and shit is just dead

#

and nobody wants to play healers in this awful meta

oblique apex
#

there is no haste/versa two hander for conquest points?am i right ?

raw summit
#

nop

#

just crit and mast

oblique apex
#

so mastery is the go i guess ?

raw summit
#

ye

oblique apex
#

ty

near delta
#

Got my frog like a week in and it never changed to the saddle percentage thing

undone pumice
#

u playin 3s tho?

near delta
#

Yup

undone pumice
#

open tickwet

near delta
#

Ill have to do that. I hve more than enough saddles at this point but it's pretty strange

undone pumice
#

ive yet to get 1

tribal wedge
#

except aegis, what trinket should i take from the quest?

near delta
tribal wedge
#

yep they seems not relevent 😦

near delta
#

They're for casters, rmps, or ferals pretty much

undone pumice
#

same with the cc immune trink

full quiver
#

that's a blessing deepak

#

wtf am i supposed to do with 30 saddles

#

lol

sharp meteor
#

idk destroy them

raw summit
#

fill bank

lucid walrus
#

i just collect em in bank at this point ya

shy aurora
#

Best way to cap conquest is still rbgs? / 3s

earnest wharf
#

yea and the weekly bonus stuff if just playing casually - weekly bonus for 1 brawl won, 1 solo shuffle, 1500 honor from random bg's

#

it's like 175 conquest bonus plus the conquest from the quick match win so it's fairly high yield just doing enough for the bonus, but if you have a real 3s team of course that's the way to go

thick reef
#

Man. I am at an impasse of staying Arms because I like how straightforward it is, or going Fury because it's meta rn. Haven't made any tier pieces yet because of it but think I can make a 2 set immediately.

raw summit
#

u should have 3 charges

thick reef
#

true

#

I feel like a brainlet when it comes to doing damage as Fury, arms has smash, avatar, necro ability, and swinging for the fences but idk

#

maybe the number pop-ups just don't do it for me during rampage spam

raw summit
#

well i played fury in pve so i got used to it

#

it doesnt look like it pumps

#

but meters tell you you shredded em

#

🤷

thick reef
#

It just ain't right

#

What's the main squeeze for fury's damage burst? Reckless + Trink + Necro into Rampage and Raging Blow spam with Bloodthirst as a 3rd?

wet scarab
#

fury damage doesn't feel as good as arms you just have to be happy with the level of sustain and running down an enemy player. But honestly neither spec is "meta" right now at all, the reason fury is gaining popularity is that the set bonus is much better than arms and it has better mobility so it overcomes a lot of the meta comps arms struggled with at the start of the season

#

like rdruid hunter

#

that said arms is better against a lot of comps that fury struggles with too, and the aggressive uptime playstyle appeals for some people more than the slower arms approach with the control it brings

#

tl;dr play what you enjoy

raw summit
wet scarab
#

you'll probably do better on it than whatever you think is meta

near delta
#

I feel like I have a much easier time getting the damage out as arms.

wet scarab
#

it's fun going back to arms from fury you randomly one shot people at 40% health with double MS crits

#

rampage doesn't feel as good

raw summit
#

oh ye MS into proc into dead

#

my beloved okayge

wet scarab
thick reef
#

sweet relief

lucid walrus
#

fury damage doesn't feel as good as arms you just have to be happy with the level of sustain and running down an enemy player. But honestly neither spec is "meta" right now at all, the reason fury is gaining popularity is that the set bonus is much better than arms and it has better mobility so it overcomes a lot of the meta comps arms struggled with at the start of the season

raw summit
#

fury damage doesn't feel as good as arms you just have to be happy with the level of sustain and running down an enemy player. But honestly neither spec is "meta" right now at all, the reason fury is gaining popularity is that the set bonus is much better than arms and it has better mobility so it overcomes a lot of the meta comps arms struggled with at the start of the season

sharp meteor
#

Both specs feel pretty great in double healer.

thick reef
#

thanks, bros. might just hedge my bets that Fury will get the ole Blizzard classic treatment and end up getting nerfed to death out of the blue

raw summit
#

it got nerfed already

#

in hc week

thick reef
#

hoping that the return of talent trees means the return of pseudo Glad-spec, too

#

Is the FAQ correct in statting for Crit and Mastery over Haste?

raw summit
#

i mean

#

play what u prefer

#

i like haste more since im a junkie

sharp meteor
#

crit probably bad for fury unless ur 1-banging with warbringer and stuff

raw summit
#

warbringer 2time necro yep

thick reef
#

because Blizz feels the same way about Fury as they do for Shaman lmao

raw summit
#

ok so

#

blizzard doesnt care for pvp, right?

thick reef
#

It wouldn't be a good idea, but I'm used to seeing Fury sit somewhere in the garbage dump for PvP usually

raw summit
#

then why kick down on the worst performing class in raid

#

if anything arms gets like a 20% damage buff

flat isle
#

Aegis gets nerfed extremely quick. Resolve has been left

#

This is balance

thick reef
#

RMP is on top. Wizards is back. Druids are being coddled again. All is right in the world.

raw summit
flat isle
#

My alt warlock got 4 piece. Working on getting the nerfs rolling, don't worry

near delta
raw summit
flat isle
near delta
#

Jungle can use them effectively sometimes but yeah

flat isle
#

Jungle doesn't have to as much. RMP can legit use them like a go

raw summit
#

these trinkets being rmp/caster cuck excusive is kinda crinj

flat isle
#

My favorite is seeing all the casters go BUT BUT RET WARRIOR

#

Its like everyone knew that shit was dumb. No one was like "I am the most skilled player"

near delta
#

The triple resonator go where you have to trinket or die is so cringy

undone pumice
#

bout to aay it

#

ret warr waa the exact same as rmp

flat isle
#

I think it's more the attitude. I find RMP players think they are playing 7D chess

#

Most ret warrior players went "hehe divine toll goes brrrrrr"

undone pumice
#

i talked to my brother who is rmp main about how rmp doesnt take more skill

#

and he said

#

it takes more skilk than other comps because u need to be in discord saying 321 and if 1 guy fucks it ip its gg

flat isle
#

He didn't

#

He did not say that

undone pumice
#

like no its not gg u have 3 trillion ways to re go

#

i told him

#

but. ut

#

we have no way to damp

#

he said rmps weakness is dampening

flat isle
#

I've had someone say the same thing. Like "if you mess up a go you die" and I was like "how"

undone pumice
#

like hpries tdoesnt top u off instantly

#

and rogue has off gcd step

#

and vanish

flat isle
#

Games last into dampening against RMP? I mean there are very few comps that can last that long

undone pumice
#

and mage has caut, pod, soulshape podtender

#

and hpriest flies

#

yeah thats the thing u can barely get past 20% damp

#

he said warrior was overloaded too

flat isle
#

I mean maybe S1 warrior with the intervene reflect

undone pumice
#

we had this convo in march

#

this year

#

so no

#

he doesnt mean that

lucid walrus
#

overwatch was pretty ridic but it had a skill cap to it

#

then again intervene was also totally nuts at the time

undone pumice
#

yeah but

#

we were talking s2 warr

#

and he said warr having dstance is op

#

well now we dont so

flat isle
#

S2 warrior was a bit busted in terms of the random sudden death executes for 44k

undone pumice
#

and u dont think a rogue having more gos than defensives isnt?

flat isle
#

Naw man, rogue has no defensives

#

/s

undone pumice
#

i remember when i dueled a rogue and he shadowstepped to a pig to run away from my MENACING 10K MORTAL STRIKE I JUST HIT ON HIM

flat isle
#

The vanish conduit used to be the most tilting shit

raw summit
#

stealth one

#

where u cant ww em out

#

:)

undone pumice
#

deadge

#

phil

#

my shaman making gud progress on retail and warr in tbc

flat isle
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Not even where you can't WW them out. They'll have 18 dots on them but it won't break them out

undone pumice
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yea

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remember when he told me rend countered rogue

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funny man

flat isle
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I want to test Qing with my main team this week, but my healer buddy plays an Rshaman so it's a little painful

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Saw foxxy and Kaska playing the chain heal PvP talent along with the chain heal dispel talent.

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Might make him try it

undone pumice
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idk

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enh is real good rn right

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might wanna just load up AAP and netflix tmrw

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pump my sham to 60

warped warren
jaunty furnace
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Do you even go for locks anymore in 2s?

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They are more tanky than actual tanks