pvp

[undone pumice]

theres kore than 1 dessign issue tho

[elder wigeon]

yeah i mean warriors toolkit was overloaded which they nerfed that steadily and decided it was too unkillable and nerfed d stance in the worst way and left hybrid healing mostly untouched aside from ret

ret offheals are dogwater

[undone pumice]

everytime i am fooled into qing 2s with a ret

i realize it

[elder wigeon]

enhance off heals are more broken than ever

[undone pumice]

the only problem is nobody plays enha

in lfg

[lucid walrus]

idk what game you're playing

[undone pumice]

alt leveling simulator

peacebloom farming 2022

[nimble jasper]

i checked lfg once

its likr

50% mage lock

lf healer

[sharp meteor]

Watch them gut healing surge, the conduit and/or chain harvest without touching mlx or rmp.

[elder wigeon]

if they nerf enhance they nerf warrior

[undone pumice]

enhance the only thing keeping warrior out the gutter xd

[full quiver]

No fucking clue how their dam works or how to peel it now

Like I think eb is a stacking buff? Idk

I did reflect a 17k chain harvest and kill a dude tho

[sharp meteor]

Oh, you still can.

People just don't know how the wolves work.

Although I guess Disarm isn't as effective versus dogs/hothand as doom

[spice hornet]

why are yolos at 1480 mmr all 70k+

rbg

i hate this god damn bracket so much

[elder wigeon]

because that's where geared people go to smurf to fill their vault

myself included

[spice hornet]

asaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[sharp meteor]

rbgs aren't real

they're just there to cap vault

[nimble jasper]

"YOLO RBG NEED PERFECT COMP"

[spice hornet]

KEKW

[nimble jasper]

im starting to think people forgot what "yolo" means

[spice hornet]

yeah its not like the old yolo

8 dps 2 heals

[nimble jasper]

also i swear people who write "chill"

[spice hornet]

stuff like that

[nimble jasper]

most of the time arent

and just dont wanna get flamed when they play liek baboons

[full quiver]

Lol

[nimble jasper]

"yolo rbg need rogue fc tc disc req"

[full quiver]

Trueeee

[nimble jasper]

i am not getting on disc

with 1400 rbg players

@spice hornet I'd join a daily win on my rogue and lead goes

"rogue do rogue things"

tell me you dont understand how classes work

without directly saying it

[spice hornet]

Lmao ive seen that before as well

[nimble jasper]

i saw a guy with 300 rbgs played this season already at 1400

[spice hornet]

yeah i had a tank join my yolo he was like 122-220 1400 som,ething cr

i was like how

[mystic barn]

dont the wolves just stack maelstrom

and do dam

[nimble jasper]

undead rogue playing adapt

i watched same guy decline me then queued into his team with another pug

and killed him 4x when he tried to take mines from me

[sharp meteor]

the buffs

as well as hothand

[nimble jasper]

people dont know how anything in pvp works often

[sharp meteor]

well hothand isn't related to the wolves but it's notable

[nimble jasper]

until theres 50 clips on wow highlights

about it

[sharp meteor]

yeah idk how half of the healers work but that's fine because every game is hpriest

[nimble jasper]

just play a class where it doesnt matter

as long as healer has no trinket=dead healer

[sharp meteor]

i remember the name and map of the last rsham i saw

[nimble jasper]

[sharp meteor]

because i have only queued into fucking one

[lucid walrus]

unironically correct

[nimble jasper]

queued into an hpriest once who willed air in opener

instant killed him on monk through his gs

in sweep

[lucid walrus]

anyone who writes "chill" enjoys the idea of queuing more than actually playing

[sharp meteor]

that is how it be

[sharp meteor]

i mean maybe yeah

[mystic barn]

rsham must really be down bad bc it even gets run down by rot teams

[nimble jasper]

you know the worst part

about low mmr games

is when you get some guy

[sharp meteor]

i just wanna play without somebody spazzin out

and that's hard with lfg

[nimble jasper]

with a 210 lego

and its the wrong spec one

[spice hornet]

useless tier and very useless unity

[sharp meteor]

pacing bad, leggos bad, tier bad

rsham in shambles

[lucid walrus]

should elaborate. i'm talkin abt the people who still have a temper despite the note

[sharp meteor]

ya "chill" usually just meansa that they don't try but will get mad at u

tedious

[nimble jasper]

people said outlaw double lego was gonna be useless cuz venthyr one isnt good

[mystic barn]

lfg is my favorite experience

[nimble jasper]

then trill shows everyone

kyrian kinda stronk for outlaw

[near delta]

Teach me wise one

[nimble jasper]

lfg 2s is just me booling

until i get emoted by a 4p destro lock

cuz im pillar humping

[near delta]

Imagine playing destro s3 sl and BMing anybody

[nimble jasper]

i was on monk and guy was stupid enough to play resolve

so i just killed his dumbass next sweep

[near delta]

Lmao

[nimble jasper]

thanks buddy for playing a trinket i can remove every time

unless the lfg rdruid decides to try rake stunning the guy then my sweep gets resolved

then i feel really tempted to type /afk

[near delta]

Yeah why even play it into ww that can just spam root it off lol

[nimble jasper]

lfg healers have this weird tendency

to not do anything

unless its something that gets them killed

[near delta]

Orrrr over do it

[nimble jasper]

or ints your setup

[near delta]

Yeah lmao

I literally had won this gje against like assa hpal or something

Was one sec from killing

[nimble jasper]

rdruids are actually the worst offenders

of this shit

[near delta]

Then my rdruid runs in

Rake stuns for no fucking reason

And gets blasted

[balmy gate]

I've noticed particularly tauren druids they are either fuckin gods micromanaging the enemy team like its nothing or just perma jump and do nothing

[near delta]

Then immediately leaves group

[nimble jasper]

my favorite is tauren healers

who dr warstomp a dps

with 5 secs left on dr

then ask why no peel

as they die

[balmy gate]

goin for drinks at 80% mana

ever had that happen

and he legit just lets you die

[nimble jasper]

i've had lfg healers type drinking

as im dying

its great

[near delta]

How do yall handle afflocks as fury

I keep getting cooked by Maldiva

In 2s

[spice hornet]

u dont

[nimble jasper]

idk im not playing warrior 2s till i have 4p

[sharp meteor]

idk i keep getting fried by him in 3s lmao

[spice hornet]

does 20k dps

in 3s

[near delta]

Feel like I'm literally just fyig the entire game

[spice hornet]

just leave game

[sharp meteor]

he legit does 15k dps the whole game

and u can't kill him

[nimble jasper]

then i can scare random baboons

into disarming reck procs

so legendary

[near delta]

And my healer goes oom in like 20 seconds

[sharp meteor]

i have a positive wr because his partners like that dew guy always feed but it is not fun

[spice hornet]

thats the afflic experience

[sharp meteor]

aff does like next expansion damage

[near delta]

Good to know lol

[sharp meteor]

oh u can maybe try uh duel

[balmy gate]

Sometimes depends on the map, if its a big map and the lock just stands in the middle with his cock out its pretty much an ff

[sharp meteor]

although unsure how useful in 2s that is

[nimble jasper]

also i swear anytime i play my monk alt there must be a batman signal in the sky

[sharp meteor]

as it only reduces dam on teammates

[balmy gate]

in smaller maps you can manage locks.

[nimble jasper]

for every idiot sub duel cheeseteam

to q up

[near delta]

The best luck I've had is just losing then until my cds are back up

[sharp meteor]

yeah that can be the play but then their healer drinks

[near delta]

But they just run at us

[sharp meteor]

so have to gib them in damp

[nimble jasper]

had some clowns queue sub enh and just instant stun duel me

with shaman channeling nf succ

[near delta]

Dps shamans running nf is bewildering

[nimble jasper]

i mean 2 games in a row

instant stun duel

succ

[near delta]

I'm pretty I played against those guys lol

[nimble jasper]

i mean the rogue is pretty cringe psure he played

double sub in s1

[near delta]

Did the rogue then instantly run as soon as his duel was down

Then come back like 2 minutes later

[nimble jasper]

yeah i mean i played him in s1 on my rogue

guy sucks

i killed him in his own duel once

[near delta]

Lol

Feels like there's so much more cheesy stuff in 2s this season

[nimble jasper]

i mean

[balmy gate]

2x overpower sharpened mortal strike mortal combo crits are just, orgasmic especially in pvp

vs a squishy

[nimble jasper]

its not as bad as people who queued

double necro feral in 2s last season

[nimble jasper]

then you do it to a warlock

dark pacts

comes out at 80% hp still

[balmy gate]

[near delta]

Dark pact feels like it should have been tuned when they changed the trinket bonus

[nimble jasper]

i stand by my principle

that locks who die opener

deserve to get emoted

[near delta]

If only we still had spit

[nimble jasper]

/pulse is great

[near delta]

Oh I forgot about that one

[nimble jasper]

someone in this channel showed me how glorious

/ruffle is too

[near delta]

What is that one?

[nimble jasper]

"ruffles your hair"

so kinda like a

[sharp meteor]

/crack

[nimble jasper]

"you tried champ"

[sharp meteor]

/ruffle

[near delta]

I think you might have been the one I first heard about pulse from but on peak lol

[balmy gate]

just go /kiss its a classic tilter

[sharp meteor]

There's a ton of emotes, I need to go learn some new ones.

I don't generally emote because I'm always bumping into the same people.

[nimble jasper]

/golfclap is a classic

[near delta]

/cringe is solid into cheesers

[nimble jasper]

locks who died opener I just typed

"?" in /s

[sharp meteor]

/question

[balmy gate]

The dumbest and most apelike BMing is the most effective

[sharp meteor]

/boggle

[balmy gate]

just go lol in /s

[nimble jasper]

?

is funnier

tbh

[balmy gate]

its either lol or kek, if its kek its x2 more powerful

yeah the ? is a keyboard smasher sometimes fr

especially if youre goin a cheese comp

[nimble jasper]

ginji knife is a classic

[balmy gate]

and get dumpstered

[nimble jasper]

just chops up their body

[lucid walrus]

pulse is a good one

[nimble jasper]

too bad cremating torch doesnt work on enemies

[lucid walrus]

slap is ok, cali firework tech is a classic. need to remember to get the slide whistle

/thank perchance

[near delta]

I mean they can't understand anyway

[nimble jasper]

/thank as rmp is a giant tilter

for some people

[balmy gate]

or just straight up dancing and not killing them 2v1

untill they leave themselves

[nimble jasper]

then you got weirdos

who try to copy pika with the

[lucid walrus]

i let my healer kill seeds in 2s if we already got their 2nd down

[nimble jasper]

sap selfie cam

[near delta]

Is RMP the only comp where they straight up always expect to win every single game?

Like they get soooo tilted when they lose even if they play like dog

[lucid walrus]

cleave players at least know the strat is a meme a lot of the time

[balmy gate]

rogues and mages tend to be like that

[nimble jasper]

i mean the good rmps typically know its a meme

[balmy gate]

wars go ooga booga and if we lose we lose

[nimble jasper]

"wow look i outskilled this guy"

[lucid walrus]

script go is also memey yeah

[nimble jasper]

whaazz was like

wow congrats

i stunned this guy

and stunned that guy

we win

"oh we got nades wanna get a trinket for free?"

[balmy gate]

im having fun goin DH in 2s ngl, feels like youre playing devilmaycry or somethin

[nimble jasper]

playing rogue or monk into dhs in 2s feels funny af

90% of them blur/trinket like baboons

then healer is just surprised when man gets globaled next stun

[balmy gate]

DH needs a ballsy healer in arena tho

wont do much with a passive one

[nimble jasper]

love me when dh kills my monk's healer

then decides to chase me across map behind a pillar

and die in a stun no trinket

peak comedy was one game last season this guy died through trinket blur dark

from 100

carrying friends to 2.1 last seas was funny

so many apebrain dhs esp towards end of it

[knotty tangle]

Anyone seen the prot warr one shot? Whats the buildup?

[sharp meteor]

Conq banner, demo shout, avatar into shield slam, or avatar into warbringer charge with shield slam.

they're able to build charges of the buff outside avatar, but it takes a while, and they want modifiers to stack with it

basically just pre during demo window and they'll send into it

kind of like budget vesper

[knotty tangle]

How do you counter that? Kite for 30 sec?

[sharp meteor]

Just press a button in the 10 second demo window.

Any sort of damage mitigation and that'll scuff the go.

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor do an rbg

find a giga whale hunter, bought both raid carries and glad

XD

[sharp meteor]

Have you seen that boomer on the forums that pays a few thousands bucks to get dragged to glad asap each season

[nimble jasper]

no do i want to

but yeah, guy's 2.2 and 2.4 exact same day

[sharp meteor]

Idk it's just weird to me that people pay that much for post-legion dragons

[nimble jasper]

and man doesnt even do a 90% successrate flare that would knock rogue out

[sharp meteor]

1x kill of each raid boss, 50 wins done without gaining cr, etc

[nimble jasper]

i mean jollytimes bought an r1 pilot

[sharp meteor]

what an existence

[nimble jasper]

last season

🤷

[sharp meteor]

how'd that work out for him

[nimble jasper]

banned

[near delta]

Imagine doing that for r1

[sharp meteor]

ehuehue

[nimble jasper]

yeah man def naturally went from

first 2.4 ever

to r1

in a few months

[near delta]

Wait he bought a pilot lmao

[nimble jasper]

or selfplay from eu r1s

i forget which

[sharp meteor]

https://streamable.com/uo9pgd

[near delta]

I was referring to a certain DH lol

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah palu's gameplay can be kinda sketch

but jolly unironically played like an 1800 rogue

idk

[nimble jasper]

well asbur's pilots got banned

[sharp meteor]

queued into palu and he'd like

randomly send full go on somebody

without cross

[nimble jasper]

he still got his $$$ tho

[sharp meteor]

oh queued into him the other day

did the spriest he play with last season lost his title, i never checked

[nimble jasper]

he was boosting seaneydh i thought

[near delta]

Bruh I saw supatease queueing with him on stream

[nimble jasper]

with zhangbeihai

[sharp meteor]

oh he didn't

[near delta]

And Supa was like why is your name like that

And Seaney was like I value my privacy

[sharp meteor]

yeah asbur last season just queuing nonstop with some spriest buyer it was weird apparently he couldn't find anybody who'd play with him if he ran surrender every game

but he just wanted to parse

[nimble jasper]

I mean there's a pretty blatant difference

between rogues like pika swacked and kalvish

and palu

[near delta]

And Supa was like when I see people name like that I assume they're up to sine sketchy shit lmao

[nimble jasper]

🤷

[sharp meteor]

because they fucking are lmao

it's like an rbg player name

YUCK

[nimble jasper]

kalvish is actually dece though

i think he gets memed too much

for being 16

[sharp meteor]

yeah he is excellent

[nimble jasper]

well prob that and the crusader speech

altho no one is cringe enough to copy crusader's victory dances

thats one thing that never happens

[nimble jasper]

its prob cuz his voice still nasally tbh

when you consider some of the other players are around same age range

[near delta]

Just killed a fire mage in a r/m 2s game with a 12k spell reflect lmao

[near delta]

In what way?

[nimble jasper]

idk how to explain pika

dude’s like perma on addy

and just knows when anyone can die whenever

[sharp meteor]

sub is a pretty brutal spec to punch down on people with, you just have lethal every 30s or whatever and if the enemy team doesn't know then they just die

[near delta]

He might be lol

[sharp meteor]

most specs don't outright actively try to kill you in the same way sub does

[nimble jasper]

remember some guy i knew

[sharp meteor]

because once the go is sent you're dead in that stun from full health

[nimble jasper]

tries to class envy pika and pika just

sends a kidney vendetta

and kills man in his own duel

[sharp meteor]

game is all about cds and if you can wrap your head acount the macro game it becomes a little clearer

[nimble jasper]

nick is also

really good

[sharp meteor]

it's like once sub rogue trinket is gone assa just eats them instantly

legit defensively step, vanish, etc to get out of los of assa

[nimble jasper]

i feel like the good ones know how to play offscript

[sharp meteor]

so u don't eat full kidney

[nimble jasper]

seen nick go for doming someone 100-0

in dr kidney

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah it's like cheap with cds they trinket into dr'd kidney and just explode

there's that super important global of cheap where they can sit on cds and send them as global is ending

[nimble jasper]

like i feel bad-mid rmps

[sharp meteor]

and if u trinket then u die because they recheap

[nimble jasper]

play extremely close attention

to dr script

[sharp meteor]

too close and they send off dr

[nimble jasper]

while the good ones just yolo at 1.5 speed

[sharp meteor]

so if u stagger stuff they're in shambles

[nimble jasper]

whole gamr

[sharp meteor]

and don't know how to swap goes

[nimble jasper]

altho i find it funny

[near delta]

Yeah when you watch like Whazz and Raiku they're just improvising the entire time

[nimble jasper]

when whaazz’s team queued into lontar

and you just hear him laugh maniacally as they know they kill rsham through everything

[warped warren]

[nimble jasper]

I think another example, pika queuing mainteam rps on ladder and they just aggro run over any rmp

[knotty tangle]

What kind of flare is this?

[nimble jasper]

when a rogue saps someone

just flare on top

[knotty tangle]

Aah

Thought you ment opening flare, when gates open

[nimble jasper]

thats a coinflip

[near delta]

Feral

Destro

Is a stupid 2s comp

Convoke feral too

[undone pumice]

feral

desteo

are stupid speca

fuckin hate the furries

[near delta]

How do I handle outlaw/hpriest?

Seems like there's never really an opening if they play it well

[knotty tangle]

Run down the priest

[grand scaffold]

feral not too great atleast in 3's

in 2's its good

[undone pumice]

good

i hate cat dudu

[grand scaffold]

they legit just get run over

cant do anything

[undone pumice]

GOOD

FUCK EM CATS

[grand scaffold]

no frenzy regen to save their ass

[flat tide]

What are some good streamers to watch for fury pvp?

[undone pumice]

smexxin

mud

(if he decides to stream )

[grand scaffold]

first one is correct for sure

[hard vector]

where do i look for games now days lfg tool or is the a better way?

[undone pumice]

lfg tool or an lfg discord

[hard vector]

u have the link for lfg disc? 🙂

[grand scaffold]

can also use a pvp community

but those are pretty dead

[hard vector]

okok cheers 🙂

[fickle forge]

Caught Loveless hitting Astral Shift and getting Intervene + 20% DR Safeguard before the kidney, and he was so happy, but they just killed him right through it all in the stun

[still mauve]

are people palying fury over arms in arena?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

shoulda immunitied

smh

[fickle forge]

I think it got clipped

1 sec

[nimble jasper]

its on wow highlights

[fickle forge]

https://youtu.be/kREwU0P5Ze4?t=122

[nimble jasper]

yeah i saw that

[elder wigeon]

pre wall pre intervened, die anyways

[undone pumice]

huge skill issue

[crystal harbor]

Is it Battle Trance that doesn't proc off of Crushing or ER?

[undone pumice]

battlw trance doesnt prkc off crushing

[thick reef]

best legendary for kyrian arms?

I'm considering unhinged

[scarlet barn]

EB

[undone pumice]

eb > sephuz

leaper

you can run them into incredibly specific stuff

[raw summit]

I gotta make seppoop for my guy

[undone pumice]

still dunno if

sephooz or dm is better into rmp

[raw summit]

Into like sub or outlaw

Ig

[undone pumice]

so just as long its not assas rmp

is better?

[raw summit]

Im not sure

I saw trille play it into Outlaw on his fury in 2s

Still lost tho so idk

[knotty tangle]

Outlaw is a hard matchup in 2s though

2bad im too dumb to play it

[raw summit]

Ye i dont think ur supposed to win Outlaw hpriest

[elfin surge]

all 3 rogue specs counter warrior

[undone pumice]

all specs counter warrior

warrior F TIER UNPLAYABLE

[raw summit]

how bout you unplay dn

[lean island]

hello, someone can explain me pro and cons of fury legendary? can't choose wich one is better between signet and the deathmaker..thanks

[undone pumice]

deathmaker consistant dmg

signet insane burst potential

and aoe with bladestorm procs

[lean island]

so the burst is better i guess?

[raw summit]

DM if you chain proc

just kills people

@undone pumice im down to 20k gold i got my bis crafted ring

[undone pumice]

im down to 40k gold overall my chars

after getting my leggos for my second dude

and he doesnt even have his ring yet @raw summit

[raw summit]

just need conq neck and haste other ring

then wep and im done

[undone pumice]

yeah my main has that one

[still mauve]

So fury is better then arms in arena? And what covenant is best?

[elfin surge]

arms is better in 3s because it can play turbo better

[still mauve]

okey thanks, and in 2v2 its fury?

[raw summit]

https://imgur.com/0qk3Viz @elder wigeon 6 leaps

i told u it still worked

[still mauve]

What fury/arms double legos do you want in arena?

[raw summit]

unity + EB for arm

unity + DM/sotk for fury

[still mauve]

thanks!

Have not played pvp for ages, stupid question perhaps but whats the difference betweeen unchained gladiators medallion and the one you can buy from vendor called Cosmic Gladiator's Medallion

[raw summit]

unchained is less ilvl

since last season

[still mauve]

okey thanks

does gavel weapon active work in pvp?

[raw summit]

yes

[thick reef]

So why are most fury’s necro while most arms are kyrian?

[tribal wedge]

unity necro is better when you spend a lot of rage (so better for fury), while unity kyrian is better as kyrian with crit build

[raw summit]

Imo Arms should be necro too

Everyone gets out of kyrian spear

[thick reef]

Anybody ever wrote down what class / ability can get out of spear?

[raw summit]

What matters is hunter and rogues can get out

And thats the only dps in 2s that are real

[thick reef]

How about healers? Priests can fade out of it right? Pala can bubble out. But that’s it?

[warped warren]

can bop it too iirc

[raw summit]

BoP too

Monks can Revival it

Shamn cant?

[undone pumice]

wtf is bop

melee bubble?

[raw summit]

BoP is the party bubble

For only for physical shit

The other thing we shatter

[undone pumice]

yeah melee bubble

[raw summit]

There's also prot pala bubble

Guardian of the queen

[undone pumice]

[thick reef]

DK can wraith walk out of it

[raw summit]

also deaths advance

or ams

[thick reef]

So you might as well use the global on something else vs a DK :p

[quasi minnow]

Should I stack crit or haste as arms after Vers?

[wet scarab]

lol that game with the 4 destro locks

[thick reef]

Crit if you only play kyrian arms

[wet scarab]

everybody procing purple infernals

healer dies doesn't matter I'm about to 1 shot everybody anyway

[grand scaffold]

i hate those stupid blasphemy infernals

that needs a nerf and a half

[quasi minnow]

Okay so if anything else it’s haste?

[wet scarab]

most people stack haste rn for both kyrian and necro arms but there are a few outliers, doesn't really matter all that much what the breakdown is

crits in spear are nice but unreliable and a lot of classes escape it

also haste lets you switch to fury

[quasi minnow]

So it seems like crit is only better in certain situations and haste better overall

[wet scarab]

yeah, you can always mix in a few crit pieces and see if it feels good for your playstyle

[quasi minnow]

Alrighty Ty!

[fickle forge]

Reject haste, embrace crit+mast

[full quiver]

anyone have a working WA for the destro lock

i tried that warlock BS one and all it did was prevent me from upgrading gear lol

[near delta]

Lmao

Elvui always stops me from upgrading gear

[raw summit]

Ye that vendor is buggy as shit

Doesnt work for me half the time

While on fucking default ui

[full quiver]

yeah it's super buggy

wonder if anyones found out a way to abuse it

[mystic barn]

I literally told u to /reload last night and it worked

noob

[full quiver]

reload didn't work

deleting WA then reloading did

unless /reload in arena is some weird instance and doesn't affect outside

[mystic barn]

god

everything conflicts with that vendor even bartender

[full quiver]

even w/o addons it's fucked. you can't just put a new piece in, have to close it all the way

[elfin surge]

my name deez

[sage raptor]

Only deaths advance

[undone pumice]

🦶

[fickle forge]

And AMS

[sage raptor]

And ams

[mystic barn]

and not wraithwalk

lmao

[undone pumice]

and deez

[mystic barn]

da, ams, dn

[raw summit]

qcp does the weakaura work

[mystic barn]

haven’t had the chance to try it yet

people were too sleepy to q

[fickle forge]

Can vouch before Vanish doesn't work either

[sage raptor]

Except wraith walk

[mortal elm]

does pvp gives cosmic flux

[grand scaffold]

yeah

play comp stomp to get the most i think tho

100 per game

[full quiver]

I downloaded it and didn't see anything vs destro

And then couldn't upgrade any gear lol

Not sure my WA is up to date though

[raw summit]

i got an idea how to fix it

this should work

so going from multi target to arena trigger

https://wago.io/OLC8Gydr- uploaded 2nd version hopefully this works

[full quiver]

u sexy man phil

thanks

definitely need one, queued some alts and had a game where i swear the warlock fired off 6 chaos bolts in 3s

need to get squadov working again

[raw summit]

ye the bolting is obsurd

[full quiver]

i msged him after and was like "what is your class lol"

we won but our 60k hp dk was on life support 90% of hte game

[raw summit]

if you miss the first reflect

odds are a second one is coming anyways

so you catch something

[wet scarab]

it's not 3 sec but if you proc reverse entropy it gives you 15% haste, in 3s you get another 15% haste from soul rot if you hit all 3 targets, you get instant chaos bolts from the set piece, and conflagrate, which is their version of fire blast, reduces chaos bolt cast time by 30%, and with havoc up you have double mortal coil double chaos bolt

dark soul increases crit strike damage by 30% and every chaos bolt crits so

RIP

[thick reef]

I should learn how to speak warlock.

[raw summit]

thats so much text

wtf

just say they kill me

[wet scarab]

they not only kill you

they can kill you twice over

in that window

you and all your teammates

they have so much synergy in all their stuff it really makes you sad about warrior lol

[raw summit]

so its world of modifier-craft

cool

[wet scarab]

yeah reverse entropy is a talent that has a chance on all spells to proc 15% haste for 8 seconds

the way their fire blast works is they have 2 charges, talented they give you 30% casting speed reduction on the next 4 chaos bolts or incinerates, and generates soul shards

[raw summit]

mhm kay

so essentially they vomit shit on you a lot

gotcha

[wet scarab]

yeah warlock BS

lel

you know what's awesome about all this

their pvp talent even gives a 25% healing reduction and slow on chaos bolt

[wild totem]

Triggering my 8.3 flashbacks

[wet scarab]

they have magic mortal strikes that can 1 shot you, cleave, and slow, and they can do 6 in as many seconds

[raw summit]

and they dont die

:)

[wet scarab]

how would they

aoe stun, spammable fear, horrify, 250% shield, drain life

with soul rot, you can even drain life from all 3 enemy players ❤️

[raw summit]

must be great to be a lock

broken in all forms of content

m+/raid/pvp

[wet scarab]

yeah I play my lock alt often in pve and he managed 8k dps overall in a mythic with trash 240 ilvl gear and wrong talents

with the 4 set build you just keep getting soul shard refunds on rain of fire and spam it

meanwhile you have to perform heroic feats of strength on a warrior to parse 7th or 8th in raids

[mystic barn]

just run reflect lego

And reflect havocd bolts back to lock

Ez

[wet scarab]

lol

I mean most will rip it off with a fire blast charge

you could try that and live with the satisfaction of having done it then die to the next 4 chaos bolts

they actually have an aoe fear that lasts 20 seconds if you dont break it but would have to lose mortal coil for it

[sharp meteor]

I wish it made reflect last a few seconds.

a single spell nowadays is hard/reliable.

[wet scarab]

it's not even a skill ceiling issue it's just so easy to rip off

every caster has a dumb low damage instant cast

I wish when it reflected mind control it would actually let you control the priest though

self cast mind games

[full quiver]

more like spam jump them into a wall

like the bitch they are

[raw summit]

^^^

[grizzled linden]

hey guys, can someone give me a rundown of fury PvP for RBG?

[wet scarab]

zug, run away when getting zugged

[grizzled linden]

in terms of legendaries and covenants I mean

[sharp meteor]

Actually hm Fury in rbgs

[grizzled linden]

signet I bet?

[sharp meteor]

Kyrian or Necro with Signet, probably.

[grizzled linden]

yeah we're only 2 melee today, so prob necro

[wet scarab]

yeah I mean just bladestorm on top of as many targets as possible

kyrian and necro have pretty much even pluses and minuses in RBGs but I generally prefer kyrian there

keep more people in there while you zug them

can save some flag and base captures

signet is a shoo-in I think

[full quiver]

do people play furry in rbgs now instead of arms?

[grizzled linden]

seen quite a few after def stance nerf

[full quiver]

i guess the advantage of sitting d stance until sharepn is up

is kinda gone

if it's same as warpaint but you do 20% more dam lol

[grizzled linden]

reckless abandon or AM?

[wet scarab]

would say RA if you have 4pc

AM otherwise

[grizzled linden]

yeah yeah 4pc ofc

just haven#t played fury in pvp for ages

just wanna give it a try

[wet scarab]

it's just not as fun when you have convoke druids and 4pc destro locks machine gunning entire enemy teams

even if dstance wasn't nerfed

[sharp meteor]

Lmao I wish Druids played convoke again

Oh rbgs nvm

[full quiver]

lol

i didn't even think of that uzza

destro in back line blasting everyone

do people play fmg

frostmage

[elfin surge]

🙄

[primal talon]

Hi guys, i enjoy playing venthyr in pvp, what stats should i run

haste or crit?

ah dont worry, just checked pins

😄

[spice hornet]

We good?

[elfin surge]

we aight

[spice hornet]

aight

[raw summit]

yeah

[craggy socket]

Which lego for fury?

Im sure its asked 1000 times but 1001 here it is

[mystic barn]

its been asked a lot more than that

[sharp meteor]

Signet or Deathmaker.

[craggy socket]

Yes but what one for a noob

[sharp meteor]

I don't know. Pick one.

[craggy socket]

Man you know I hate choices

[near delta]

Get signet and do damm

Do you want a passive leggo that just kinda puts a debuff on the target

Or an active leggo that gives you damage on demand

That's the choice basically

[craggy socket]

10-4 buddy signet it is

and ill try it out

ty

[mystic barn]

just make these if u dont wanna choose

[raw summit]

that better be a 291 leaper

[elfin surge]

u necro?

[full quiver]

there aren't any

[elfin surge]

@full quiver we good?

[full quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[elfin surge]

😐

[near delta]

This the first legit we good I've seen lol

[elfin surge]

we good?

[near delta]

Ain't ever been bad

[thick reef]

okay whats BiS cov for pvp?

everyone an di mean literally everyone warrior or otherwise seems to be necro?

[raw summit]

wat spec

[thick reef]

im playing fury, just trying to get 1800 for elite set

[raw summit]

necro is ur best bet then

[thick reef]

yeah this shield is fucking OP everyone has like 2 hp bars it feels like

[mystic barn]

mud calls me prototype ☹️

[raw summit]

its the banner

it eats people up

[sharp meteor]

lmao shield disappears insta

[near delta]

What's QCP even stand for?

[raw summit]

quite
cringe
person

duh

[fickle forge]

Queue Cry Play

[raw summit]

.

from the man himself

[near delta]

🤔

[nimble jasper]

fleshy c the mc

flesh rm kidney opener

[craggy socket]

I am necro but i have kyrain too

[elfin surge]

play signet

[crude sentinel]

Darksouls= free reset.

[craggy socket]

hahahahaha

[fickle forge]

Luckily, they're beaten on lifts 😎 👍

[wet scarab]

it is really broken that mage is in both comps especially since they're such different playstyles

[raw summit]

https://twitter.com/Snowmixy/status/1517589453606428672?t=SNrHFLvEH6Yti6tUAaQR_g&s=19 t3 subs in SHAMBLES

Snowmixy (@Snowmixy)

I don't know man I was your healer for one dungeon that does not mean I want to be your wife nor the mother of your future kids....

Twitter · Apr 22, 2022, 7:41 PM

[mystic barn]

i love mlx games its free cr

anyone else having an ez time vs them

[nimble jasper]

its easier as go based comps imo

cuz you one deag healer

whos usually boosted

[tough compass]

Most MLX are re rolled one tricks that die after burst if not before

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, if you hard run on veins/soul they'll be in ruins shortly after.

[nimble jasper]

ran into one while playing ww sub once

killed hpriest in opener through everything

sometimes you just get the vibe dude’s a donkey and dr kidney his trinket kill with triple resonators through GS

[thick reef]

what classes should i grind 2s with for 1800? healer is obvious but if i cant find healers, which dps?

[raw summit]

its hard with 2 dps

but feral ret and enha can get you there

[grand scaffold]

i would go enhancement shaman

and play fury

its pretty fun tbh

feral a bit too squishy imo

ret good but if they use wog on you they dont do dmg

but

ret/enhancement shaman

both good

[thick reef]

okay so im a pve andy with 4 set, however i have 0 pvp gear. should i still be getting pvp gear lol

[raw summit]

you will get the shit slapped out of you but also slap the shit out of them

[lucid walrus]

on slots that won't overwrite tier, sure

[raw summit]

so get pvp items

[thick reef]

i get shit slapped hard

lol

[elder wigeon]

without any vers you're gonna get deleted

[raw summit]

unless you have like vers m+ stuff

[elder wigeon]

and you're missing out on a fair few ilvl

[lucid walrus]

rings/neck would be nice for raw vers since i assume you have some ilvl. not to say that pve gear is gonna be sufficient with conq scaling in the mix

[thick reef]

yeah i dont think this is doable without pvp gear for sure lol

[raw summit]

for most pve rats 1800 gear is better than what they can get

in ilvl

[lucid walrus]

p much

[raw summit]

as its 280

so ur gonna be like 281ish with legos n stuff

[thick reef]

okay then should i be spamming bgs? idk what best honor farm is atm

[lucid walrus]

for honor gear that's an okay deal. comp stomp is still on iirc and that'd be the easiest honor of your life

[thick reef]

OH SHIT is it?

fuck

[lucid walrus]

rat league 2s are incredibly easy for conq tho

[thick reef]

omg it is

so then spec wise, what are R1 warriors playing? fury or arms

[lucid walrus]

fury's actually quite popular near the top. this is NA 3s ladder

either's more than fine for ladder play tho

[elder wigeon]

half of the characters on that list is an alt

[lucid walrus]

i spy 3 mag toons and 3 mud toons ya

[thick reef]

wait Swifty can get about 2600

above*

[raw summit]

i see 3 mud

[elder wigeon]

that's not swifty

[raw summit]

lmao

[lucid walrus]

4 mud actually

[thick reef]

lmao

[elder wigeon]

that's swifty-anvilmar

[thick reef]

fake Swifty?

[lucid walrus]

5**

[full quiver]

real swifty was playing

[lucid walrus]

buggin, qsniper, mud, execute, disabled lmao

[raw summit]

resune did you see btw, that leaper barbarian works like ud think it does

[elder wigeon]

yeah i saw

i don't think i'd ever use the talent tho

unless rbging

[raw summit]

me neither

but its funny hop

[elder wigeon]

it's very good for rbgs in some scenarios

[raw summit]

take flag and ditch

ig

[raw summit]

so all on icecrown is mud?

[lucid walrus]

basically

[wet scarab]

Barbarian with leaper is really fun in that azerite BFA bg

[sharp meteor]

that's the good swifty not the boomer one

[sharp meteor]

smexxin and saul on an absolute rampage

[wet scarab]

Lol it is genuinely hilarious how many Mud alts are on there

And magnusz alts

[elder wigeon]

that's just how it is at the top man

the best players take all the r1 spots lmao

[wet scarab]

Make r1 account wide!

[elder wigeon]

nah

make r1 class wide

only eligible for r1 on the class you're on, so 5 warriors all the sudden is just one

[wet scarab]

Account wide sounds like just the right kind of WoW fix: fixes one thing but creates five extra problems

It’s in keeping with in game fantasy

[elder wigeon]

I'd be okay with glad being account wide if it wasn't just rival/duelist

[wet scarab]

They should make the mount only usable on a character you got glad on

[near delta]

Yo I need to get a low ilvl one and try it out in a BG that sounds hilarious

[wet scarab]

It is it’s like you have those rocket boots from the jetsons the moment you lose a base you just jump out of there like a crazy person

Legit can cap bases on the other side of the map

Would be funny to try capture the flag with it

Whenever I played it in the azerite bg I never died. Just leap away every time your team loses

[sharp meteor]

it being usable on chars of the same class might be cool

[near delta]

It seems kinda fried when it's like 30 people taking 120 something slots every sesson lol

[sharp meteor]

then just bumpi t to 2700

[sharp meteor]

the other thing would be that u could earn multiple r1s but only eat up 1 slot

so pettykick will only take 1 slot when he gets 7 r1s this season for instance

[elder wigeon]

they could easily just do it how top 500 works in overwatch

[sharp meteor]

char specific stuff kind of neat

but then again class wide also neat

[elder wigeon]

must be authenticated to be eligible and it's per role

[sharp meteor]

the thing is that people wanna queue and if you're safe then no point in queuing

or right now there's just nobody queuing sometimes at higher mmr

then there's most of the ladder afking for inflation so they can collect their rival's soul eater

[elder wigeon]

class wide solves that issue

[sharp meteor]

i am surprised they haven't automated named glad tbh

like 50 wins above 2700 or 3k

or just top x

[elder wigeon]

I'm surprised the top .5% glad went away so easily

pisses me off now that I'm more than good enough for it

[sharp meteor]

yeah feels bad

especially for the old glads

who get lumped in with modern glads

[elder wigeon]

Yup

well, there's 3 types of glad

top .5% team, top .5% player and 2400 regardless of seasonal inflation

[sharp meteor]

the flta rating thing would be a little more chill if seasons weren't the most goddamn inflated

like there's 3x a few seasons of netherdrakes as bfa s2-3

those seasons were dead as shit

[elder wigeon]

well they should just increase the rating according to the inflation, they know where the numbers will end

or, you know, bring back how the seasonal rewards used to work

[sharp meteor]

maybe they doot glad up to 2700 next expansion so u don't see them week 1

and aren't half of all mounts in the city by the end of the season

run around oribos and see like 15 unchained drakes

[elder wigeon]

it should just be the old system

[craggy socket]

Who cares

[elder wigeon]

the people who feel robbed of genuine rewards

[near delta]

Yeah don't want what happened in S1 lol

[lucid walrus]

s1 was such ass

[sharp meteor]

s1 they rugged mmr because it was getting too inflated

then they intentionally inflated s2

zzz

[lucid walrus]

seems there's a pretty wild gap between 2.7 and literally anything other than r1 which seems to be >500cr away as of post-legion jazz

[elder wigeon]

the consequence of gutting gladiator is that you have r1 or you have nothing

[lucid walrus]

ayup

[craggy socket]

So they can just add something at 2700?

making glad like some small % doesnt help the game at all

[elder wigeon]

making all of the ranks percentile like it used to be helps the game a lot

it keeps every rank relevant and allows people to aspire for rewards that mean more

[nimble jasper]

glad should be %

but also cutoff should update dynamically

[elder wigeon]

every rank should be % and pvp rewards shouldn't be given until the season is over and pvp gear shouldn't be upgradable

[craggy socket]

Wasnt that just r1s gatekeeping glad?

[elder wigeon]

why would r1 players gatekeep glad

[nimble jasper]

gatekeeping in general

is made up

[craggy socket]

W/e i guess

apply for a job at blizzard

[nimble jasper]

feel like barely anyone actively tries to gatekeep

[elder wigeon]

why are you so jaded about this?

[nimble jasper]

people act like its a crime to q alts

[craggy socket]

i aint never been glad anyway

what would you guys say histroically is the best healer?

[elder wigeon]

Holy paladin

[craggy socket]

Suprised not priest

[nimble jasper]

priest historically has only played

[craggy socket]

Man, holy paladin feels so dog to play

[nimble jasper]

bursty comps

until this season

[elder wigeon]

hpally has always been good, very rare that it's not in the meta in terms of tbc -> slands

[nimble jasper]

^

[craggy socket]

Coolio

Good to know

[nimble jasper]

idk hpal feels fine to play

[elder wigeon]

in wrath hpally was god tier

[nimble jasper]

bfa hpal

legion hpal

[elder wigeon]

in mop hpally was a bit meh

[craggy socket]

Kinda bit meh now

[nimble jasper]

wod was deco too

[craggy socket]

Holy power feels so awkward imo

[nimble jasper]

hpal is good rn

its just

hpriest is broken

[craggy socket]

so true

[nimble jasper]

hpal unironically the 2nd best

atm

[elder wigeon]

true

[tribal wedge]

guys, as fury, when you have nothing to press, you just use whirlwind ?

[thick reef]

what is the usual gear prio?

[near delta]

That exactly

[tribal wedge]

nice, thx

[near delta]

Weapon above all then it's kinda up to you

A lot of the usual suspects are tier pieces these days

[thick reef]

yeah im pve andy but i need some pvp gear to stop getting shit stomped because i want elite set lol

[near delta]

Do you have aegis? If not, you should definitely get it.

[thick reef]

so im figuring out which pieces to get with honor and then get conquest

[near delta]

Trinkets are lowest prio

[thick reef]

wait why the set bonus gave me big stam lol

i was 63k without it and 71k with

[near delta]

Ah I mean conq trinkets

[wet scarab]

Lol every time I get in here when all these warrior chads complain about how 2400 is free glad or whatever https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-cousin-violet-downton-abbey-gif-5678257

[thick reef]

ahh okay

[near delta]

Honor + the free aegis one is fine

[thick reef]

wait what free aeigs

[near delta]

Duuuude

[tribal wedge]

pvp quest

[near delta]

So the pvp vendor has a quest

A new deal

Gives the new pvp trinkets this season

Aegis protects against like 20-30k magic damm on a 2 minute CD

[thick reef]

how do i get the thread lol

[near delta]

Kill and loot stuff around zm

In war mode

[thick reef]

okay so its not players

[near delta]

Also wq gives it too

[wet scarab]

Yeah fly around loot chests and kill rares

Killing rares is fastest

[near delta]

Yeah

[wet scarab]

They give between 15-30 threads each, chests are 5-10

[thick reef]

so aegis > DPS trink>

[near delta]

There's so much magic damage flying around these days it works into almost everything

[wet scarab]

Aegis into magic teams, dps trinket into not magic

[near delta]

DK, Ret, wizards, DH, rogues, ferals?

Could get value into wws kinda too

[wet scarab]

Lol well I use aegis into teams that can one shot me with damage

Magic that is

Not that it helps but

[nimble jasper]

weird thing is when i play melee alts

and people still play aegis

???

[wet scarab]

The haste trinket is really nice though and the aegis basically only really neutralizes mind games goes at this point

I think they are too lazy to switch the other trinkets are useless unless you have some long stun abilities

Everyone soaks resonator now

And hps are too high for it to be so deadly if it’s not paired with a go and a long stun

[thick reef]

so what if my weapons are already pve? i have 262 and then i actually have Jailer gavel 259

should i skip honor wep?

and just fill out off pieces for the vers?

[nimble jasper]

resonator feels like its only really utilized by rogue comps rn

and even then unless you're chucking 2-3 in the same go its mid

Although sub 2s I've seen argument to just play badge to make ER pops more threatening

[upbeat sapphire]

262 + 259 gavel > 259 honor weps.
But you’ll still want conq wep eventually. Start at 262, 1000 rating for 265, 1200 268, 1400 rating for 272. That’s not a high feat to hit

[wet scarab]

Man going back to arms from fury feels so weird sometimes. I get surprised when someone is at 40% health and dies to a random double MS or execute crit and I’m like well I guess that’s that then that was weird

I’ll always stand there for a second confused

[elder wigeon]

idotp

[lucid walrus]

idotp

:mudge:

[thick reef]

for fury which leggos do i want / what slots should i put them in?

[dry cave]

DM (back) + Unity (flexible) . You can check what the big boys are running here https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/2v2 for inspiration.

[cyan heath]

so in a BG i was just in i was told that fury warrior is better in pvp now, is that true?

sorry just joined

[lucid walrus]

either's solid

pros and cons to both

[cyan heath]

gotcha, i been playing arms in pvp only since legion now i dont even know how i would go to fury

[lucid walrus]

fury's better into casters for example but it'll bite the curb in a cleave matchup

then again that's just what happens in cleaves. fury turbo is nothing to scoff at

[cyan heath]

is it only tier sets that makes fury as good as it is in pvp?

[lucid walrus]

not /only/ but its 4p is damn strong

safe to say it's much better than arms 4p

[cyan heath]

gotcha, yea i dont have any tier set

[mystic barn]

@raw summit unless all the destros im fighting dont have 2pc, i dont think the addons works

they should have it though if theyre above 2100..

[lucid walrus]

will recommend securing conquest tier, prolly like helm and shoulders for the vers on those slots. arms feels playable in that case

[thick reef]

Tyty

[cyan heath]

i didnt know conquest pieces could have tier set as well

do you have to take it to the catalyst or whatever its called and put the tier on them or does it have tier on them already

[lucid walrus]

you do, yeah

the alternative is getting em out of vault but gl with that

[full quiver]

why does my travel form look like this now??

wtf lol

[near delta]

What is that? Lol

[spice hornet]

They just updated it with the patch

Of course druids and other casters always get updated

When’s the last@time they updated somrthing for warrior

[full quiver]

i don't like it at all

i had the glyph for the classic wow cheetah

then i log into this cringe cheetah

[elder wigeon]

p sure you can change it back

[mystic barn]

why dont u post this in druid discord noob

i thought tek was gonna be the druid and u the sv hunter sus

[near delta]

True. Would be really weird for someone that plays another class to post in here.

[mystic barn]

yea sus

im here to harass and bring down warrior morale

on the come up

[lucid walrus]

what chest brother

heart of fear one?