pvp

[undone pumice]

ZUG ZUG

[thick reef]

yea

its even worse for me

i play nerco lol

[nimble jasper]

carrying people depends on class imo

[thick reef]

so like i can get peeled so ez on bann if they have a brain

[nimble jasper]

idk warrior is best for it

[thick reef]

yea

[near delta]

WW is king

[undone pumice]

what

[thick reef]

im prob not im ngl i just know one of my buddys that i play with isnt that good but we win majorty of our games with me doing 4/5k dam every game

[undone pumice]

mage?

[thick reef]

yea ww is good for it

[nimble jasper]

yeah thats why i started my monk up in s2

its like

[undone pumice]

mage is good for carries is it not

[thick reef]

dont u do a go and

run after for 1 minb

[nimble jasper]

no dam first 15 secs of the game

[thick reef]

?

[near delta]

Can legit just win 1v2s

[nimble jasper]

“ok we got a proc double sweep”

kill with 10k dps

[near delta]

Yup

[thick reef]

yea

do u run

outsdie of ur cds or proc

?

[nimble jasper]

depends

[wet scarab]

kyrian fury feels so pointless since nothing can kite you with 4pc

[nimble jasper]

can do sustained damage with 2p now

[thick reef]

OH YEAH forgot

FOF actully pumps

[nimble jasper]

i just ran typically

till setup almost up sometimes

[thick reef]

yeah feels more safe then sorry

yea

[sharp meteor]

Stuff kites your teammates.

[nimble jasper]

fish for a proc

[thick reef]

cuz ww is glass cannnon

[sharp meteor]

Or dives your teammates.

[thick reef]

yea smart

[nimble jasper]

some games it just feels like a loss

to tank dam

[sharp meteor]

It is

[nimble jasper]

and your kill target has no trinket

[sharp meteor]

afk behind pillar because your 4k dps can't match the affs 16k dps

[nimble jasper]

for next sweep anyway

[thick reef]

yea

[sharp meteor]

also duel into aff seems like it might have potential

[nimble jasper]

sometimes ill bonk a dh cuz dh players are smoothbrains

[thick reef]

monks that dontt run just seem to die

[nimble jasper]

and blur air

before go

[thick reef]

yea that shit is funny

dhs will blur at 100% with warbreaker on them but no banner or avatar

every game

[wet scarab]

yeah DH consistently procs whenever you point your char in their direction

[thick reef]

so then they just die with avatar + banner in next 20 sec

[wet scarab]

blurs I mean

[undone pumice]

dhs dont need to manage blur properly usually is the problem

[near delta]

FoF is sooo tilting lol

[undone pumice]

with it being evasion

[nimble jasper]

was helping a friend

[thick reef]

yea 1 execute from killing then fof parry like wtf lol

[nimble jasper]

dh blurs first global

[thick reef]

wtf

[nimble jasper]

wait it out sweep bonedust him

[undone pumice]

[nimble jasper]

man dies through dark

[thick reef]

yea

[nimble jasper]

cuz rung it insta

[thick reef]

forgot blur has a 2 sec cd but dhs dont understand what other classes can do to them

and how they r squishy as monk

[undone pumice]

i love seeing clothies and leathers getting fucking DOMED

[near delta]

I can kill DHs pretty consistently with signet bs banner goes

They almost always blur

Then you just global them with reck

[nimble jasper]

theres a clip of that eu r1 monk

[thick reef]

dhs dieing theru blur?

[full quiver]

interesting

[thick reef]

wtf

[full quiver]

i'd always tried the opposite

[wet scarab]

they blur reck procs all the time

[nimble jasper]

hes just sitting on top of an sp

[wet scarab]

it's so dumb

[full quiver]

i'll try doing BS + banner to bait them

[nimble jasper]

waits to shadow lock the guy to 100-0

[wet scarab]

they blur even when I'm not going them just in case

[nimble jasper]

in lockout

[thick reef]

yea same with warbreak

[wet scarab]

it's the style of gameplay made by a class that has never had to worry about optimizing anything

because they won by default

[nimble jasper]

but yeah monk now with 2p

you can kill people without proc

[thick reef]

its funny to watch a clueless dh to blur at 100% with fc still on them and GS if its a hpreist

[nimble jasper]

[near delta]

I run warbringer and double time too

So if they kite they just get reckt

[nimble jasper]

i had some hilarious games last season tho

[thick reef]

yea monk 2 pc is p good

40% is

v nice

[nimble jasper]

where ill get trinket link from rsham and get 2 procs during it

proceed to kill them both

[wet scarab]

priest DH teams can be so idiotic, the DH will blur, you'll switch to the priest, the priest will fly, then they will both come down with no defensive cooldowns directly into a banner BS

[full quiver]

i liked storm bolt into DH

but honestly haven't done like any fury 2s

[thick reef]

i remebmer when trill would

do that

killed vanguards n smexxin both at same time with 1 proc

[full quiver]

basically just started queueing this week lol

[thick reef]

i think he still does but that 1 clip of him killing van/smexx was funny

[nimble jasper]

yeah it was worse early s2

and s1

[thick reef]

oh yea i forgot

bonedust cant crit

but it still does shit ton of dam

i think i dont remebmer

[nimble jasper]

that one blur opener game i had a bonedust do

50k

was my highest ever

[full quiver]

@near delta you ever just reck to get blur then wait for reck rpoc with 4pc and use banner + bs

[nimble jasper]

i think

[thick reef]

LMAO

[wet scarab]

monk is the only melee class where I feel like I traded cds well on their main go but I might still die in 15 seconds

[full quiver]

that was gonna be my go to strat with 4pc

[thick reef]

does it feel like shit now or nah bc of the nerf

[nimble jasper]

feels fine

[full quiver]

basically what i used to do with arms, bait cds with warbreaker then when enduring procs after pop avatar spear

[thick reef]

yea

[nimble jasper]

alot of the onetap games i had last season bonedust never crit on kill

[thick reef]

oh dam

i see

[nimble jasper]

i think it stopped the meme serenity onetap shits

like 25k rsk crit into 24k bonedust crit

[full quiver]

lol

[thick reef]

yea

yea scoob

bait with warbreak

cluless dh blurs when they r fine

and just kill

[full quiver]

thinking that 4pc fury will do same thing

bait with reck

[thick reef]

sometimes u dont even need enduring proc its funny

[nimble jasper]

psure theres that clip where qcp

[full quiver]

then wait for reck proc and pop banner + bs (if signet)

[nimble jasper]

just gets blendered by a ww

without a sweep

[thick reef]

should i swap fury

yea mitch there is

sec lemma look

[full quiver]

i like toolkit of arms way better, feels more fun

but fury feels better in shitty mmr 3s lol

you're basically in dstance whole game

[nimble jasper]

idk why people thought ww was gonna be bad this season

altho the legendary is kind of a meme

[full quiver]

sp/ww is still pretty annoying

[nimble jasper]

tho its funny like the fury 4p

rng bonedust procs

so sometimes you scare people into walling air

[thick reef]

https://gyazo.com/7e0c39a9d2550b5526fbf5df758955cd

this is qcp

i think

[thick reef]

yea ur

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[full quiver]

LOL

yeah he posted that the other day

[thick reef]

yea

idk why but i wanted to show mitch so bad i scrolled up so far

LMAO

[nimble jasper]

ww still has too many modifiers

[thick reef]

yea

[nimble jasper]

you can also build stacks off kevin

and totems

[thick reef]

oh yeah i forgot

when they would go out of their way to tp kevins and totoms

[full quiver]

lol

[near delta]

I've tried it a couple times but they're usually pretty tanky

[nimble jasper]

you still do

might as well now cuz extra haste on fof

more damage

[thick reef]

oh yeah

i keep thinking ww changed but it didnt rly

only better sustained i think

ppl just make it sound like nerco sucks and its a sustained kyrian cov class now idk

[nimble jasper]

lost bonedust crit but its w/e

[thick reef]

yeah

[nimble jasper]

its rng

[thick reef]

still seems rly good

[full quiver]

am i trolling by playing AM instead of RA with 2pc fury?

[thick reef]

yeah

[nimble jasper]

sometimes you get a proc and can rando drop someone to half hp with an rsk crit

[thick reef]

imo yea but maybe it depends on matchup

[full quiver]

AM seems so good

[thick reef]

yeah but isnt RA good for uptime

[near delta]

Also haven't seen this much activity on here in forever

[full quiver]

usually only time i have no uptime

is because i'm lining frost mage lol

[nimble jasper]

idk people seem to play both now

[thick reef]

then Am is prob fine

does seem good, do u notice big dam diffrence in RA?

with crusing and bloodbath vs reg raging and bloodthrist

[full quiver]

wasn't sure if i was missing out on a lot of dam from the RA move changes

[elfin surge]

@near delta we good?

[thick reef]

@elfin surge we good? 🙂 jk

[near delta]

I believe so lmao

[thick reef]

mud is DE homie

[near delta]

Muds German? :o

[thick reef]

idk!

[elfin surge]

@thick reef we aight

[nimble jasper]

mud is prob why there were dozens of necro arms warriors in 2s

[thick reef]

love u mud ty

[nimble jasper]

last season

[thick reef]

mud made nerco look so good legit

Master of the nercolord warrior art 1 shot and the reason i play it today over kyrian even tho i get soloed in kyrian spear

[near delta]

Those were good times

[nimble jasper]

tho

imagine trying to kill an rdruid

with necro

[thick reef]

only prob wit hnerco imo

is rdruid yeh

[wet scarab]

RA is really good with how often you get reck procs with 4pc but with 2 you might be better off with AM

[thick reef]

also sometimes u would get peeled so annoying

[elfin surge]

I am the Primus.

[wet scarab]

RA is better into hunters and druids though even with 2pc

[thick reef]

fucking primus homie nerco god

sorry if thats weird

[near delta]

How much of your switch to fury was just cause necro is bis for it?

[full quiver]

lol

[nimble jasper]

im gonna be honest

rdruid players i dont understand

at least half of them their brain turns off if they realize they cant kite

[full quiver]

i figured RA if we ever went hunter

and AM into any cleave

[thick reef]

yea scoob

ra sick for hunter imo

[elfin surge]

80%

[full quiver]

was thinking RA into RMP might be smarter too

[near delta]

Checks out

[elfin surge]

fr

[wet scarab]

rdruids die by default in reck windows they just run like headless chickens

[nimble jasper]

any class that can catch up to them really

[thick reef]

@elfin surge did u show the discord ur clip of ra against hunter yet? its so funny

[nimble jasper]

i had a game last season where an rdruid died opener

because he thought trinket melding at 20%

vs spin procs

was smart

[full quiver]

Don't post

[elfin surge]

i posted in my cord but no not here.

[full quiver]

Don't need RA nerf lol

[thick reef]

o true yea

[elfin surge]

🤣

[nimble jasper]

is it as much a meme

[thick reef]

yea i saw it in ur cord lol was gonna show ppl here my b tho yea

Ra is fine

[nimble jasper]

as dakkroth vs condemn war

in s1

[full quiver]

Lol

I still remember not having done arena before, having guy rop warrior off Mr

And the warrior is spamming condemn charge and bouncing off rop like an angry bee

[near delta]

What's the range on ra charge?

[thick reef]

LMAO yea scoob

[full quiver]

was spooky

and hilarious

[elfin surge]

15?

[near delta]

Fuck really?

[full quiver]

pretty sure it's 10

[nimble jasper]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestCarefulLyrebirdDoubleRainbow-XOdAmZxshGBtK0pR

mud should teach mies how warrior works

[elfin surge]

no shot 10

[jaunty furnace]

I wonder if we will be able to get gladiator in solo que next expansion

[full quiver]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=335097/crushing-blow

it's 10

[near delta]

Imma have to test with that addon hunters use later

Ah

[elfin surge]

sus

[full quiver]

i linked the spell

don't @ me ever again

[elfin surge]

the crushing charge has the death sentence bug too 😦

[near delta]

I haven't been abusing that shit nearly enough then

[elfin surge]

randomly just doesnt charge you

[full quiver]

good thing u can just hit it again

LOL

[nimble jasper]

theres also a bug with outlaw grapple iirc atm

[thick reef]

oh yea mud also some slaughterhouse bug too

[nimble jasper]

where the hook just

[near delta]

Will it hit targets through rop tho?

[nimble jasper]

bugs

and doesnt move

[full quiver]

idk if range is big enough

[thick reef]

it dont apply if there is already a healing debuff or something on the target

[near delta]

Good

[full quiver]

DEEP

[near delta]

Outlaw is a blight

[full quiver]

i did blade storm into a rop last night

[elfin surge]

yeah slaugher doesnt work if the enemy has a 6% ms or higher

😦

[raw summit]

Got out-lootspec'd

[full quiver]

and then spam RA charge on the guy inside the ring

LOL

[nimble jasper]

miestro playing warrior is content tbh

[near delta]

Lmao noice

[thick reef]

i feel same way 😦 rigged we need fury to have a proper ms that dont bug!

[near delta]

I always thought it was weird af that he mained healer

[full quiver]

make slaughter house 80%

[thick reef]

yea

10% per rampage hit

fuck yeah

[full quiver]

warrior D tier unplayable

make us c tier pls

[nimble jasper]

well mies in shambles

[thick reef]

fucking stupid class needs buff

[nimble jasper]

after all the rmpals he selfplayed in bfa

no longer q with him

[thick reef]

make reck last 30 sec

[elfin surge]

I'll q with him if i can get a third

maybe petkick

[nimble jasper]

would be content tbh

[near delta]

Will their toxicity cancel out?

[nimble jasper]

gonna see you on yt soon

with a worst warrior title

prolly

[raw summit]

No

Itll are up

[elfin surge]

we can mies screech together in harmony and re shatter the vale between life and death.

[thick reef]

yeah do it

anything to watch mud content 🙂

[elfin surge]

[nimble jasper]

surprised he got unbanned from twitch

[sharp meteor]

All they'd have to do is tweak it to function like Wound Poison and Hemo where Wounds MS is reduced to 0% for the duration or Hemo.

[nimble jasper]

lmfao

[sharp tusk]

anyone know why honor pvp gear scales to 252 even tho it says only 239?

[sharp meteor]

It keeps wound from being ripped off.

[full quiver]

can't wait to see mud playing dragon isles

[thick reef]

yea prob

[full quiver]

streaming 1000 2's a day for his viewers like pikaboo

[near delta]

How'd he get banned in the first place? Other than just being himself

[nimble jasper]

tbh teapot it wouldnt matter because wound just reapplies

next auto

uhh mies doxed a chargeback

psure

[full quiver]

i tried to sit a kidney sepsis vendetta with frenzied regen at 100%

big mistake lol

[near delta]

Ohhhhh I forgot about that lol

[raw summit]

Max rank honor gear is 259

[near delta]

Aegis on that is actually p good

[thick reef]

true

[elfin surge]

i love viewer 2s

[thick reef]

MUD DOES 1 shots IN OPENER LIKE PIKA

[sharp tusk]

but why does it scale to 252 when it says only 239 on the piece

[raw summit]

You gotta Upgrade it

So it goes higher

Just like m+ gear

[sharp tusk]

nah im sayin im in a game

im in a bg its scaling to 252

instead of 239

[warped warren]

[near delta]

That's how pvp gear works after s1

If scales higher in pvp instances

*It

[mystic barn]

Lol

It’s 239 Pve but scales to 252 in pvp

[sharp tusk]

no

its 203 base

says scales to 239

but its scaling to 252

but its giving me stats and overall ilvl as if its 252

[full quiver]

did they change that for non rated

[sharp tusk]

no clue

[sharp meteor]

Are u in solo shuffle

[near delta]

Ohhh that's strange lol

He said it was a bg

[wet scarab]

I pretty sure I managed to kill a warrior while rooted and disarmed with crushing blow RA

[raw summit]

Probably wearing some pve shit

[wet scarab]

or it could be a hidden warrior buff

all warriors get better gear scaling

to compensate for D tier unplayable

[sharp meteor]

Worst performing spec in raids

[raw summit]

Ikr

Tragic

[warped warren]

the pvp ilvl showed there is bag ilvl

[raw summit]

Down horribly bad

[warped warren]

so any combination that gets you to 252 pvp ilvl is showed there

[wet scarab]

lol we are also the most gimped tank spec

[raw summit]

Nah

Prot warri is actually good

[sharp meteor]

Is it

[raw summit]

It's better than dh tank

99% sure

Also all tanks are good

Not all dps are good

Buff woyer

[wet scarab]

DH is the weirdest approach to tanking I'm not really sure it's comparable to any of the other specs

[sharp tusk]

im wearing my best pvp gear rn i dont even have a pve ilvl of 252

[wet scarab]

prot warrior has to work twice as hard to be half as good as the other specs at dps, mitigation and aoe threat

you compare it to something like blood DK now and it's nuts how different it is

[raw summit]

The good prot warriors owns

But ur right

Skill floor high for pwar

[full quiver]

doesn't bode well for 4pc cheese then

[raw summit]

In pve*

[undone pumice]

gduid amd blood dk are just

gods amongst men for tank specs

casually doing 27k dps with 3 button rotation which is also their mitigation

[full quiver]

is smexxing playing fury turbo?

[wet scarab]

yeah he says it counters MLX

[full quiver]

i need an enh sham

lol

[near delta]

Same

[spice hornet]

Me too

Playing ret war into MLX makes me want to kill my self

[sharp meteor]

Fury feels much better than Arms into mlx.

[full quiver]

yeah just feels a lot worse into rmp/ other cleave slol

[sharp meteor]

Mhm, but everybody has to make the decision of which weakness they'd like (if they don't wanna play rmp)

[thick reef]

which of the cosmic trinkets are currently worth using?

[raw summit]

aegis

[mystic barn]

did you make the add on yet

forgot which duck

[raw summit]

pot duck

[sharp meteor]

duck duck

[mystic barn]

@potduck

[raw summit]

set the note

teapot - good duck

philsbadman -dumb duck

[sharp meteor]

come, brother, we will be dumb together

[mystic barn]

help

[raw summit]

🫂 🦆

[near delta]

Everything will be good in 10.0

They're adding ducks

[mystic barn]

fuck ducks i want my weakaura

[raw summit]

@sharp meteor what type of trigger is a weakaura for warlocks stacks

or do we just copy from mes aura

ah found

[sharp meteor]

translating the korean wow site to english

[mystic barn]

lol

What’s dk

[raw summit]

im guessing death warrior

[mystic barn]

emo.png

lmfao

[raw summit]

do you have the buff id for warlock tier

[mystic barn]

I can grab that

Sec

[sharp meteor]

I thought it's called impending ruin

[lucid walrus]

4-set or 2?

[mystic barn]

364349

ritual of ruin i think

[raw summit]

ok lemme see what i can do

once i drop combat

you wanna see at 8 i assume?

[undone pumice]

🦶

[mystic barn]

pref it track the # of stacks then glows at 8

then me die sound at 10

[raw summit]

ill try

[mystic barn]

i remember making a convoke weakaura with the yoda death sound

[raw summit]

@sharp meteor do you know if this will work in arena

i havent use the multi target trigger prior

[sharp meteor]

No, my healer is the brains who makes the weakauras.

[raw summit]

shit

[sharp meteor]

I'm just the meathead that hits people.

[raw summit]

i asked weakaura discord

[elfin surge]

lasso a sexy bitch

[thick reef]

Hey all couldnt find it anywhere or pinned but just a quick question in regards to fury and tier set. im running 2 set with 29 vers atm necro lord, would it be better if i dropped abit of vers to about 27 and had 4set?

4set bonus seems ok

nothing like 2set

[raw summit]

4 set for sure

it fucking slaps

[thick reef]

thankyou ❤️

[raw summit]

https://wago.io/OLC8Gydr- @mystic barn should work

[mystic barn]

POG

i'll test it with friend tonight and let u know if it works

[raw summit]

ty

[mystic barn]

great name too

[raw summit]

gotta be honest about it

[mystic barn]

hmm

not importing correctly

o

it was hiding

[raw summit]

it doesnt show unless aura found

maybe i fucked the load settings

it loaded just doesnt show until a buff is detected

[mystic barn]

yea that would make sense

so once enemy has a stack it begins tracking

[raw summit]

ye its loaded by default

and this makes it not show yet

[mystic barn]

oh yea the issue i had was that wow likes to hide import button off screen

and it was hiding in my toolbar

wasnt worried about not seein the buff haha

[raw summit]

ahhh

ye all good then

[mystic barn]

now to find a smelly lock

[ancient sonnet]

shouldn't take long

[raw summit]

if this trigger doesnt end up working, the wa discord recommended another one

which would just be arena

[wet scarab]

I'm not sure I quite grasped Smexxin's turbo strat against MLX there, anyone care to explain it?

[full quiver]

Lmao

"Warlock tier bs"

Aptly named

[raw summit]

gotta be honest

[near delta]

He gets one of the mage, lock, or healer's HP to 0 while preventing he or his teammates HP from going to 0.

[raw summit]

that and assa are the most annoying tier sets

[wet scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-yes-agree-ahuh-gif-14150176

[near delta]

[earnest wharf]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=333935/hammer-of-genesis

do yall know how this works in rbg's or arenas? If you switch targets from A to B, then later back to A, is A never a new target again for the whole match or off some timer?

[lucid walrus]

it either means hitting a completely new target or on combat reset

regardless it's not valuable

[elder wigeon]

Yup

[earnest wharf]

damn ok thx

[near delta]

I kinda want to try it with merciless bonegrinder and just m+ down a demos pets one game. Lol

[wet scarab]

best thing to do it with is korayn first strike

worth inting several games as NF just to see the look on that demo lock's face tho

potentially also play meat cleaver instead of bladestorm

[near delta]

Does mc activate bonegrinder?

[scarlet barn]

Meatcleaver?

no

how would that even work

👀

[near delta]

Thats what I figured haha

[wet scarab]

i think you can technically proc it from a reck signet proc

major waste of a conduit tho in this case

[elder wigeon]

there's no way it's any good

[near delta]

It'd be terrible

But the damage would be funny

[raw summit]

pugged with a disc priest

7-2

you love to see it

also damn with 4p im getting low ass uptimes on btrance

[steep inlet]

normal

[raw summit]

too lucky for my own good

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

Cringe bugs.

[near delta]

I've been thinking of just perma swapping it out with something else

Warbringer is pretty nice

[sharp meteor]

Bloodrage super good as a generalist pick even without roots.

There's also warbringer for burst/uptime.

[raw summit]

even enduring rage is kinda lackluster

[near delta]

I rarely run it

[sharp meteor]

Slaughterhouse + Enduring + X I feel like is the standard loadout

[near delta]

The extra warpaint uptime can be really nice though

[raw summit]

im p sure if ur like lord mud and run signet AM those get better again

[wet scarab]

didn't lord mud switch to signet RA?

[raw summit]

im not even sure

[near delta]

Mud is becoming an RA gamer

[raw summit]

i just remember signet

[wet scarab]

also I don't understand why enduring is a bis talent enrage uptime is fine in pve

[raw summit]

well we can get perma if uptime

so perma warpaint

but i rarely noticed it

screen lights up press rampage go again

[wet scarab]

all else is a distraction

[sharp meteor]

Mhm.

Also thinking about how Havoc passively takes like 22% less magic damage.

[raw summit]

Just because

[wet scarab]

i dont really get why that's a thing in pvp or pve, it's not a tank spec

[sharp meteor]

Idk and blur still gives 80% dodge up from 50% for no reason

[near delta]

They need that

[raw summit]

I despise the blur bug

[elder wigeon]

I think blur should be 100% with a 30% wall in pvp but on a 1.5 minute base CD tbh

maybe get it down to ~1.3m with conduit

[raw summit]

So like mega dbts

[elder wigeon]

dbts is 100% parry with 30% wall on 2m base cd down to 1.3m in pvp

[near delta]

Die by the glaive

[elder wigeon]

same thing different flavor

[wet scarab]

I mean they also have netherwalk

[raw summit]

Well probably make die by the glaive 90 seconds fixed

[elder wigeon]

yeah but we also wear plate, have "d stance" and can ignore pain

[full quiver]

make frenzied regen 30%

[raw summit]

Make it 40 and make bt heal 5%

[wet scarab]

give fury dstance

[full quiver]

lol fuck that

i'd never use it

[raw summit]

Fury healing more like IV

[elder wigeon]

Frenzied regeneration should be a 40% wall and heal 50% max health over 8 seconds and not increase bt heals

[raw summit]

War paint>dstance

By a longshot

[elder wigeon]

unironically yes

[wet scarab]

oh 100%

[elder wigeon]

you don't lose 20% of your damage lmao

[wet scarab]

hey HIT HARDER AND EVERYTHING WON'T HURT AS MUCH

[raw summit]

Kill dead so cant kill u

[elder wigeon]

the only downside is warpaint will fall in a stun to rogues

i don't run warpaint into RMP

waste of a talent they don't pve you and you won't have it in the stun

[wet scarab]

I mean if you survive the opener it's still pretty useful

[elder wigeon]

so i run bloodrage disarm and slaughter

short leap

nah I don't think it's good at all unless you pre-rampage a go, it's only gonna last 4 seconds anyways or whatever

10% damage reduction is NOTHING to rmp

[raw summit]

I wanna play barbarian but cant find a matchup to justify it

Maybe into lock

[elder wigeon]

there is no matchup to justify it other than maybe lock playing soulshape

even then you're better off not playing it

[raw summit]

Ye or leaper omega memes

[elder wigeon]

barb only gives you 1 leap

not worth

[raw summit]

Barb + leaper = 6

[wet scarab]

man double time warbringer is so fun

just zipping across the map like a psychopath

or a cauterized magfe

[elder wigeon]

no, that got nerfed

barb + leaper is 4

[raw summit]

I assure you

I jump 6 times

Leap barb leap barb leap barb

What they fixed it you getting 10

[elder wigeon]

when is the last time you did that

[raw summit]

I will do it tomorrow again

It doesnt make sense for it to not work

[elder wigeon]

how tf did you get 10 before?

[raw summit]

This im also unsure about but @undone pumice mentioned it

[runic galleon]

is arms viable

[simple rock]

yes

arms is fine

[sharp meteor]

no d tier spec roll assa

[warm pollen]

yo guys, can i buy soul cinders and send it to my alts?

with Bag of Explored Souls

anyone knows?

[sharp meteor]

Yep, you've just got to do the shuffle with the vendor in korthia.

Buy the boa ash/cinder things which eat a small cut then mail to alts

[warm pollen]

so in korthia instead of new zone ?

[elder wigeon]

yes, bonesmith in korthia

[warm pollen]

ty!

[tribal wedge]

hello every one, as fury, how important is to get the left hand quickly? I'm totaly no stuff, and have the 5000 conquest + to spend, do i have to get my 1800x2 weapon first? or the right hand first, and other item?

[sharp meteor]

buy conq 2h mace then haste 2h sword from agi vendor

fill out rest of slots and hope for second wep from box

[tribal wedge]

agi vendor?

[elder wigeon]

honor weapon

[tribal wedge]

oooh

ok thx

[wet scarab]

If you do pve at all there’s a really nice 2h with haste vers from necrotic wake

[tribal wedge]

i'm afraid i don't 😦

[rare sentinel]

are we supposed to use four set?

[sharp meteor]

Almost certainly.

[rare sentinel]

yeah really need to get a weap with verse

25% only with foursert

[wet scarab]

Yeah you should gem enchant for vers if you’re missing a lot

A good 2 h will give you big vers bonus if you’re fury

[rare sentinel]

nah arms

the true pvp spec

[wet scarab]

And the 262 crafted vers ring

[rare sentinel]

im using crafted vers neck and 291 unity on ring

[wet scarab]

Are the leggos both vers haste or you using pve ones too

[rare sentinel]

verse haste

just crafted them

[wet scarab]

If they are you should be above 30% vers. Try making sure you have helm and shoulders as part of the 4 set

[rare sentinel]

im doing necrolord so they said helm should be lego arms

Necrolord: Enduring Blows on Head | Misshapen Mirror on Chest

[wet scarab]

Helm is only tier piece with haste vers so I would use that and enduring on belt

Nobody uses mirror anymore

[wet scarab]

Yeah sorry helm and shoulders both haste vers

So use those for tier set

Unity on bracers and enduring on belt

With vers socket etc

[rare sentinel]

eh i just crafted the helm ill see what verse im at after i get a weapon off vendor

im not looking to push raiting just grind percent

i get 1800 via rbg to unlock transmog

[mystic zodiac]

What legendaries do you guys use?

[wet scarab]

Signet and deathmaker for fury and enduring blow for arms mostly

[sharp meteor]

I just play Enduring every game.

[lucid walrus]

not even worth giving up enduring anymore it seems

[sharp meteor]

It feels super bad to with tier, lol

[lucid walrus]

nor was stuff like mirror ever that fun even in 2s

at most i got dopamine from a bad hunter trapping himself

[sharp meteor]

I wonder if 2pc helm/shoulders then rest conq + sephuz is the play into rm.

[lucid walrus]

sephuz'd feel nice i'm sure

[wicked bison]

i need a buttload of flux whats fastest route

[wet scarab]

play the game

you get it from literally any activity

[rare sentinel]

comp stomp gives 100 per win

prolly fastest to grind that currently

[wicked bison]

really

[toxic compass]

Lost to an arcane rdruid in 2s at 2450, wish I had played leaper/barb to go along with double time and blood rage

[nimble jasper]

low mmr 2s

considering you win in like 2mins or less

[wicked bison]

trying to fire backup my disc

[nimble jasper]

uhh what

disc

[wicked bison]

i know hp is better

[nimble jasper]

I honestly wish there was a reason to play disc over holy rn

but there isnt

[wicked bison]

when they guy holy you wont miss it

[nimble jasper]

🤷

thats assuming they do

[sharp meteor]

was it flop and dumbing

[nimble jasper]

is numbing still a boosted arcane onetrick?

remember killing that guy without blocking

few seasons ago

[sharp meteor]

wym boosted

idk he seems fine

i think he's a little fried in his suggestions to buff arcane, and i never wanna see it be a top tier spec again

[toxic compass]

Dumbing yeah, wasn’t flop or maybe on another Druid idk

[nimble jasper]

arcane

the spec with like

[wet scarab]

the disc priest I played with refuses to go holy, ended up switching to shadow. those who play that spec hardcore are like surv hunters who look down on other hunter specs

[nimble jasper]

a 70% spammable slow

[sharp meteor]

but then again frost and fire are similarly miserable rn

[nimble jasper]

meta

yeah how about no

i unironically prefer fire meta

because at least i can move

idk

[wicked bison]

haha

[nimble jasper]

frost and arcane in 2s are so cancerous

even on classes that are good vs them

[nimble jasper]

disc doesnt have that many diehards imo

But it has less boosted fotm monkeys from personal experience.

Like once I played with a priest that it was painfully obvious he got all his rating queueing with hunters, 0 positional awareness all game.

[spice hornet]

another very boosted class is trying to play with a fire mage who only qs with sub rogues

cant sheep to save their life

[nimble jasper]

can usually tell mage is boosted if they specifically ask for sub too

as if you cant q sin rmp

to pretty high effectiveness too

I did some games in s1 and its blatantly obvious when a mage cant land a sheep withhout babysat by a stun first

[simple rock]

good sub just serves up the enemy team on a silver platter for the mage

[nimble jasper]

yeah

but its also equally annoying

when your mage doesnt know how to pre people

xd

[torpid shell]

so i switched to fury

thinkin of suing blizzard

playin fury pvp is asking for a carpal tunnel syndrome

[elder wigeon]

don't play fury then

play full mastery, it's slower

[nimble jasper]

I keep hearing this

but never feel pain in hands idk

[elder wigeon]

my elbow ironically is what hurts after a while

[mystic barn]

must be nice having young supple hands mich

i ruined myself playing ninja in bdo

[nimble jasper]

i also havent played wow for more than 2-3 hours in one sitting for quite some time

might be a factor

spammiest spec i’ve experienced is 8.3 dh i think

with all the haste roids

[mystic barn]

true

i get a solid hour in every once in awhile

[wet scarab]

ran into my first prot warrior with 2 dks

whoever you are, you are cancer

[sharp meteor]

Oh, what a legend.

[elder wigeon]

2 dk's and prot war? lmao

[sharp meteor]

Tunnel so hard on not inting to the 2x abom limbs + cds that u get bonked in the head for 60k

also conq banner on 2 dks with all their cds

[mystic barn]

im sorry

[wet scarab]

4pc locks are so fucking obnoxious I don't understand how you all think 2s is somehow a less frustrating bracket

[elder wigeon]

because you get 4 pieced on by a surv hunter with a hpriest and you just lose no matter what

[wet scarab]

can deal with surv hunters as fury

can't deal with double chaos bolts double infernals

[elder wigeon]

play with enhance or don't q

not a joke either

[mild thunder]

what are everyones thoughts on buying 2x 1handers early in the season as fury and switching to TG later?

[elder wigeon]

it's alright i guess

[elfin surge]

[lucid walrus]

this'd be an okay sentiment if we weren't gaining the bulk of what you need for one 2h per reset

[sharp meteor]

Bruh lock damage is fucking unreal LMAO

[elder wigeon]

how'd you figure that out

[mild thunder]

still takes 3.5 resets for 2 weapons, not to mention the items you cant buy in the meantime

[sharp meteor]

Queued into like 3 different double destros last night

@elfin surge Thoughts on Fury/Unholy into Frost/Destro?

[lucid walrus]

cap is like high 6k right now isn't it

[elder wigeon]

5750

[lucid walrus]

that's still 2 weaps + a couple big pieces, give or take

[sharp meteor]

I feel like the play is buy conq mainhand mastery 2h then the haste honor one

[elfin surge]

no thoughts

[elder wigeon]

damn that's crazy

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor you ever go on the forums

and remind yourself how dumb male nelf players are

[sharp meteor]

All sorts on the forums.

[nimble jasper]

proc shadow dance

this guy playing some wow in the future ig

[sharp meteor]

Top be fair it isn't the most intuitive how Dance has multiple charges and then there's the cooldown refund aspect.

[spice hornet]

nerf dance

[nimble jasper]

i mean

takes like 2 seconds to realize that

also guy prob believes blades is some crazy cd

which is the biggest misconception

like watch out for kyrian buffs and badge yeah

but blades on its own? meh

[elder wigeon]

i mean he probably meant shadowblades, which can proc off shadowstrike

which is fucked because if they reprimand dance and proc blades in the opener, all of the sudden they force trinkets without actually committing blades

[nimble jasper]

ehh blades is w/e

reprimand in itself is spooky

cuz you're p much gonna instant eat a 7pt evis

[elder wigeon]

shadow blades is pretty big

[sharp meteor]

kyrian outlaw also popping up more

[nimble jasper]

I feel blades isnt that scary by itself ehh, mostly just the fact that he can instantly hit 7 pt finishers

[sharp meteor]

had one evasion 4 times in the 2 minute game and we weren't hitting him

[nimble jasper]

off his cheap/kidney pmuch

and multiple in a row

[elder wigeon]

yeah i mean it's not hard to kidney 4-5x in a minute

[nimble jasper]

people starting to realize sub 4p might be good in pvp

despite the vers+mast loss

[near delta]

Lmao damn Rogues OP af

[nimble jasper]

vs pet classes/cleaves if 4p procs you can have a chance to do 2 full evis in a row

which is kinda nutty

[nimble jasper]

kyrian cdr in general is too strong

kyrian sub in pve can get like 60-70% dance uptime

[sharp meteor]

Kind of unreal.

[nimble jasper]

tho pve you play weaponmaster

and yes the 4p shadowstrikes can trigger weaponmaster

so extra rng layer

[lucid walrus]

moonguard player to boot

[warped warren]

😂

[near delta]

Watching mud doing 2s carries made me feel so much better. Some times you're just gonna get fucked by an assa. Lol

[nimble jasper]

i mean ngl blades can sometimes troll you out of landing on blue pts

which is not pog

and yeah assa 4p been stupid since the season started

[sharp meteor]

It's fried that Assa feels like a more durable Arms.

You've also got more options in general, like in terms of kiting and whatnot. Just bleed people up and run between kidneys.

[nimble jasper]

find it just strange now people decide to complain about 4p assa

[near delta]

Sub and assa getting disarm is so dumb

[nimble jasper]

when it been stupid

for a long ass time

[near delta]

I've been complaining this entire time lol

I was just thinking I could outplay it after enough experience

But nah

[nimble jasper]

yeah I legit talked to nessper

before season started

"sepsis is affected by tier"

"oh that sounds broken"

[near delta]

Lo

[nimble jasper]

i killed an rdruid

through his tranq

was absolutely legendary

[near delta]

Jesus christ lmao

[nimble jasper]

i mean

its his fault

for sitting a full kidney vendetta

then thinking tranq was gonna save him at 5%

[sharp meteor]

"its k ill tranq out"

-dies-

[near delta]

Oh at 5% yeah thats dumb lol

[nimble jasper]

full kidney vendetta

out of form

and games

????

[near delta]

Yeahhhhhh

That's smaht

[nimble jasper]

its not as bad as the rdruid i ran into last season at 2350

who decided to trinket meld monk burst

at 10%

and die to the aoe cuz surprise

meld doesnt move you

[thick reef]

what's the best fury legendary with the set bonuses?

[sharp meteor]

Tossup between signet and deathmaker

[nimble jasper]

naw sephuz trust

[sharp meteor]

Sephuz might be chill into rm. Maybe not because extra break/spin.

[nimble jasper]

orc sephuz

watch every low rated rm stungap

[mystic barn]

no point of feeling bad over getting shadowlandsd

[near delta]

I get flamed so hard by these lfg healers

[mystic barn]

fuck em dude theyre lfg healers

they all suck

[lucid walrus]

man if only you were here for the calibri take on that subject

[near delta]

Preach

[undone pumice]

🦶

[mystic barn]

if they were good theyd already have a team

lel

[near delta]

I didn't play warr back then but I remember checking out skyhold occasionally

[undone pumice]

lmao

[near delta]

Crazy the quality of reviews and all that

[nimble jasper]

lfg healers annoy me

not enough to write a bruin rant but

just perma dead

"why dont you push in

????

[near delta]

Bro

[mystic barn]

i had to bend low to my will ove the course of a year

ez

[near delta]

I was playing with this MW

[lucid walrus]

good mix of critique and ad hominem

[near delta]

And he kept complaining that I didn't zug hard enough

"You're playing like a pussy"

[lucid walrus]

lmfao

sorry we're not immortal anymore man idk what to tell em

[undone pumice]

i love when i tell my healer U TRINKET FIRST GO and then he sits in a kidney for 3 sec, then we both trinket and insta lose

[near delta]

Yeah

[elder wigeon]

nothing's worse than a healer that makes you feel like you're dead the whole game

[mystic barn]

42 death strikes in 3 min game

lesgo

[near delta]

Literally complained I didn't chase behind a pillar

Like wtf

[elder wigeon]

zero communication, rotting a lot

[lucid walrus]

half the time it doesn't even feel good coming back from those shitshow games

it's just relief

[nimble jasper]

idk lfg healers its like

no aggro play

no healing

wyd

or the famous q into rsham dh

healer dying to dh

walk into sham line

"yeah kick me bro with dwayne up"

[undone pumice]

i dont even understand this game but some lfg healers make me feel like im a multiglad with how cocaine their decisions are

[elder wigeon]

well, think to yourself what you're fucking up so bad that you're the same rating

[lucid walrus]

playing w/ my old healer felt good bc we learned together & hit peaks together. i didn't realize what i was missing til dude started alting

[elder wigeon]

you can do certain things extremely well and be hardstuck 1800 right now

[undone pumice]

i dont mean that

[nimble jasper]

then theres the healers

that can only play giga fotm

i.e priests who only play with hunters

are super obvious

[elder wigeon]

i mean there's warlocks that only play in seasons like this so, it's just how it is

[nimble jasper]

yeah

i remember corrupted seas

the number of hpals

that only queued with destros

mid of map

[undone pumice]

corrupted abyss

[nimble jasper]

for no reason

[elder wigeon]

I didn't play wod, legion or bfa, just this dog ass of an expansion

[undone pumice]

good

[nimble jasper]

its just i swear

[undone pumice]

bfa and wod

[nimble jasper]

some healers it becomes really apparent

[undone pumice]

sucked donkey dick

[nimble jasper]

they only queue wizard cleaves

middle of map

[lucid walrus]

didn't miss a thing except free drakes in bfa

[elder wigeon]

No, legion was piss too

[nimble jasper]

cuz xd mage lock

[lucid walrus]

t. career duelist

[undone pumice]

legion was

ok

not as piss and cum shit as bfa or wod

[near delta]

When you play with jungle/rmp priest as a melee cleave

And they just sit in the middle of the map and eat all the cc

[nimble jasper]

i mean its worse with wizard cleave healers

[elder wigeon]

wrath was sick, cata sucked, mop was sick, wod was decent from pvp standpoint, but legion, bfa and SLands have sucked hard

[nimble jasper]

but in general playing with a mage/lock just allows you to play like a monkey

cuz most of the threat is directed at them

[undone pumice]

yeah specificly from a pvp standpoint only

legion - now are dogshit

[nimble jasper]

summary of my warrior pvp experience in legion s7

was queueing arms dh last day of the season and paintrain onetapping kids

for the elite set

[undone pumice]

when wod is better than ur current expansjon its a fuckin problem

[nimble jasper]

literally just paintrain talented stormbolt both of you jump on an rsham when he switches earth shield

and killing him 100-0 in the stormbolt

[undone pumice]

what u guys tgink about uh

tge new talents

yay or nay

[nimble jasper]

they're prob gonna gate

the talents that make specs not feel turbo ass

balls deep in trees

[undone pumice]

fair

it was like that in the old one too wasn it

mortal strike was pretty deep in arms tree

[nimble jasper]

yeah these are prob bigger

step used to be deep into sub's tree

[near delta]

Ooh did they release it?

Where they at

[undone pumice]

its in the teaser thing

where the devs talked a bunch at a table

[near delta]

Ah gotcha

[undone pumice]

and they said less borrowed power

[elder wigeon]

I like the new talent system at face value

[near delta]

I wonder who gets the shadow priest treatment next xpac

[elder wigeon]

Probably a wizard again

[near delta]

The rework one not the nerf them to fuck one

Yeah probably

[undone pumice]

i hope its prot

[sharp meteor]

God why didn't they just make dstance 10/10 so it was one of those little finesse things

instead of a death sentence if you pressed it

[mystic barn]

mopsune

[sharp meteor]

20/20 let you afk brain off damp but 10/20 is like suicide to press outside of super tight windows because u int ur pressure

[mystic barn]

it would probably be unholy dk ngl

cuz its super clunky spec

[undone pumice]

you mean 20/10

[mystic barn]

d stance should be 10/30

[undone pumice]

because damage dealt is always first we need the DEEPS

[sharp meteor]

i just queue double healer with bounding and run at people so it's chill but like idk why they ruined a good ability

[undone pumice]

lmao

chad double healer warr

[elder wigeon]

you mean turbo

[undone pumice]

no no

enh does dmg

[elder wigeon]

heals more than rsham

[undone pumice]

ok but it does dmg

so is not healer

[elder wigeon]

enh is better than rsham in every category

[undone pumice]

skill isue

[near delta]

I miss when I could just disarm enhs

[elder wigeon]

design issue

[undone pumice]

also tru