pvp

[desert meadow]

if they could make crushing blow give battle trance i wouldnt mind only having 3% on bt

[dry trail]

yes but battle trance is usually replaced by disarm or maybe warbgrinder in some matches

[desert meadow]

true

[fickle forge]

BT is huge

Better than Thrashbringer 😎 👍

[dry trail]

trashbringer maybe good sometimes for hunter / warlocks

also almost 8k dmg on charge

that's big

[desert meadow]

well usually i replace ER by disarm, should i replace BT instead ?

[dry trail]

it's a matter of preference im only rival 1

ask bigger bois

[desert meadow]

Yeah dunno either, i just played until duelist x)

got like 2k3 last season before the patch and trying to finally get a glad rn

[dry trail]

u play fury in 3s ?

[desert meadow]

but since i only used to play arms i'm kinda lost on pvp fury but it's fun

yeah with signet

dm on 2s

[dry trail]

nice

my highlights was yesterday

priest dies

enemy priest low and hunter full hp he is kiting around pillar

i pop banner

one shot survival

then priest leave

xD

[desert meadow]

lmao

used to have some lucky os crit back in s2

my 2k1 win was a afflock os by 35k execute

[dry trail]

ye i was lucky banner speed was up or i would be kited to death in pillar

[desert meadow]

yep thats nice

[dry trail]

i literally carried that priest to 1.8

he should paypal me

[warped warren]

surely

[wooden geyser]

which covenant is best for arms pvp?

[ancient sonnet]

Holy hell. 4pc fury bangs hard. Feels so much better to play warrior now lol

[full quiver]

Guess I'll found out next Tuesday what that feels like 😫

[grand scaffold]

dont play arms

if you really wanted to

then play necro

[ancient sonnet]

Its a game changer man. Its also super easy to get into tier boss LFGs or run LFR if you're only a piece away

Kyrian arms is solid also

[grand scaffold]

true but so many classes can get out of spear

makes if a bit annoying

it*

[spark sail]

guys whats the BIS wep for fury? i got the sword from vault but can buy a second wep now

not sure if mace is better

[ancient sonnet]

Mace is better

[grand scaffold]

the mace

[spark sail]

in MH or OH?

[ancient sonnet]

Mastery > Crit but it's a minimal gain and will probably be your last pickup

[grand scaffold]

2h with mastery form pvp

[grand scaffold]

what

[raw summit]

Or 285 jailer weapon if you have

😉

[ancient sonnet]

Yea or that lol

[raw summit]

Which im assuming they dont

That's like coming into pvp with a mythic jaithys the week the raid died

[spark sail]

mace in main hand or offhand?

[grand scaffold]

doesnt matter

higher ilvl in main hand

[spark sail]

kk

[raw summit]

Fuck mace for needing a diff sharpen

[grand scaffold]

comp stomp is so nice

480 every game

[raw summit]

Oh right time to cap

[full quiver]

Do I buy offhand 2h crit sword

[grand scaffold]

nope

[raw summit]

I got sword for tmog tbh

[grand scaffold]

never crit

avoid it

[raw summit]

Didnt think about it

Thought i was gonna arm again

[grand scaffold]

i bought sword in the beginning because i heard that arms was still gonna be better

😢

[full quiver]

But the crit sword has higher top end

[grand scaffold]

wdym

[ancient sonnet]

The damage ranges on swords are wider. Lower low end, higher top end. So the sword can be more spikey while the mace will be more consistent

[grand scaffold]

thats true

but fury plays consistant dmg with tier set right?

and also

does autoattack dmg really matter that much

and

doesnt secondary stat matter more

[ancient sonnet]

Was just answering the wdym lol. But yea mace is prob better

[grand scaffold]

oh yeah

[ancient sonnet]

But it's not just auto attack dmg that would be affected by a higher topend. All abilities would have a higher damage potential

[grand scaffold]

interesting

[full quiver]

Reeee

Maybe I go crit sword my mace offhand

[grand scaffold]

thats what i have rn

[near delta]

Gotta get that mace stun

[full quiver]

Lol

Did they have titangrip in tbc

Don't think so ??

[grand scaffold]

i think it became i think in mop if im not wrong

before then it was 2 1h

[grand scaffold]

thing*

a thing*

[mystic barn]

wat

i think it thing i think in a thing if im not wrong

[raw summit]

thingk

[grand scaffold]

lol

i meant i think it became a thing in mop if im not wrong

i had like 50 typos

[raw summit]

thinkg

[mystic barn]

thinkg

[raw summit]

thigkn

[full quiver]

Lol

God imagine tbc warrior dw that stupid mace

[grand scaffold]

i think in either classic or tbc

you could actually play 1 2h as fury

dont know how true that is tho

[raw summit]

tingk

[flat isle]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Titan's_Grip

Titans grip was added in WoTLK

Season 5 when arms wasn't really viable, the best way to play warrior was to go fury with double axe from KT and global people in an intercept stun

[scarlet barn]

Well I thing that your thinging is really not my think

[raw summit]

you tink so mon?

[mystic barn]

raz wants relations with ndogo but ndogo playing hard to get

[uneven mist]

Nothing cooler than a cow wielding two two-handed axes charging at gnomes

[mystic barn]

😱

[low sparrow]

Man if that 3rd yellow set on the right is for warrior it’s ugly AF

[ancient sonnet]

?

Assume you're referring to this:

[low sparrow]

Ya

Yea middle yellow looks fucking sick

Knowing them that’s for pally

[graceful quarry]

middle yellow has been bulking

[near delta]

Tbf, the tier set concept art all look wayyy better than they ended up

[grand scaffold]

guess who that was

[mystic barn]

I sent that

[grand scaffold]

now who sent it to you

thats the real question

[mystic barn]

I did

[graceful quarry]

[grand scaffold]

oh really

[mystic barn]

yes

[mystic barn]

It always does

concept art is the easiest to go wild on but implementing it always has limitations

god damn dk had skinny boots in that pic

[grand scaffold]

oh really

[wheat jay]

Oh look its me

Yaaay

[grand scaffold]

same reaction i get

lol

[thick reef]

Hey all! Just started playing fury, anybody here can give me some insights when you take impeding victory vs storm bolt?

[grand scaffold]

basically

take stormbolt in 2's unless you find yourself dying a lot

and impending victory in 3's every time

[thick reef]

3s ur too squishy without? And 2s you take vs like double dps or something? When you need self heal vs lockdown?

[grand scaffold]

honestly i still take impending victory in 2's

but majority go stormbolt

i like more survivability

[near delta]

The other option is warbringer with double time for max uptime.

I like running it against hunters in 2s at the very least

[grand scaffold]

thats true

double time is nice into echoing resolve

but impending victory still really good

[thick reef]

Thanks gentlemen!

Hoping fury feels a bit better then arms for me. On arms I get outpressured by literally everybody it feels. Which probably says more about me then the spec, but still

[grand scaffold]

fury > arms

arms just feels terrible atm

[nimble jasper]

I mean fury is also just easier

to do damage on

[thick reef]

Felt like I was wielding a wet noodle in stead of a 2h sword

[mystic barn]

we’re u sitting in dstance the whole time

[nimble jasper]

stay in d stance too long

people who stay d during their offensive cds

[mystic barn]

played vs dh war last night war did 300k dmg in 5min game wonder why

[thick reef]

That’s the thing right? You need a good setup, finally get out of dstance, and then you do some dam for a few seconds. Then it’s back to I fucking hate this for a minute

[nimble jasper]

i mean

d stance is for chumps

only go inside during their big cds

[thick reef]

That’s where my skill probably lets me down. Tried that and died to random shit way too often. And it didn’t do a ton for my pressure outside of cooldowns either

[near delta]

Tell that to my wrist

[raw summit]

where do you have ur rb bound that u hurt ur wrist

[mystic barn]

when I was trying fury in s1 m+ my whirlwind bind was on capslock

[nimble jasper]

cant relate dont have old man hands

[near delta]

It's just so many globals I liked arms cause it's pretty low apm wise

[grand scaffold]

RIP arms

spamming slam all the time

[lucid walrus]

implying

[grand scaffold]

i miss 3x crushing assault

7k slams when people had 22k health

[ancient sonnet]

I don't miss BFA

[grand scaffold]

i do

people complain about it

really wasnt much wrong with it

[flat salmon]

wich lego should i use if i want to play furry ?

[ancient sonnet]

Deathmaker/Signet

[grand scaffold]

deathmaker on cloak with haste vers

[near delta]

I kind of like switching depending on the comp I'm playing against

So like always signet into melee cleaves

And DM if it's going to be a train that guy into the ground game

[full quiver]

Lol

That would be so cancer

[ancient sonnet]

capslock is a solid keybind. Super easy to hit. I use it for interupts

[flat salmon]

pelagos or bird for war fury ?

[spice hornet]

most furry are necro

[flat salmon]

but i'm not

[spice hornet]

you want the bird

[flat salmon]

k thx

[full quiver]

U r fried

[main silo]

If i can choose, what pieces do i want the 4set on as fury?

[flat salmon]

fury play with 2-set or 4-set ?

[full quiver]

4 piece if you have it

[ancient sonnet]

I believe Head, Shoulders, Chest, Gloves

[main silo]

ty

[full quiver]

Basically whichever have verse you want

As first 2

[elfin surge]

legs not gloves right?

gloves dont have haste ?

[thick reef]

Warrior = no hands from set

[torn scroll]

@elfin surge hi

[raw summit]

Gloves are crit Mast i thought

Idk

[thick reef]

Hands = crit and a lot of mastery, pants is a lot of crit and a bit of haste. So better

[elfin surge]

@torn scroll we good?

[lucid walrus]

they are

legs crit/haste. feels bad losing so much vers on legs but idrc there’s time to optimize later

[raw summit]

For now im keeping my haste Versa chest as non tier

Gloves head shoulders legs rn

[dark sparrow]

If you have 4 set, do you pretty much always play RA? Or still AM vs classes with disarms

[ancient sonnet]

There aren't haste/vers gloves to replace it with though so I dunno. Legs at least has Haste/Vers option from pvp

[elfin surge]

🤔

[full quiver]

You have more overall haste verse by going tier gloves pvp legs

Mudbutt

[undone pumice]

mudbussy

[elfin surge]

@full quiver nobody asked u

[full quiver]

well you're harassing gryff for 10 mins guy

[mystic barn]

There’s a diff between using it every few clicks vs once every 15s lol

[ancient sonnet]

Yea cleaving on fury feels real bad in general imo. CBA pressing WW every 3rd global

[near delta]

I hate it.

[ancient sonnet]

Cause it sucks

[full quiver]

yeah and then in pvp it's like

idk if i even want to cleave wit hit??

or make sure slaughter house is up 8 sta ck lol

maybe with constant reck for extra rage it's a non issue to WW before rampages

[near delta]

I've noticed that cleaving targets with ww massively increases my damage lately

And the extra rage kinda makes up for it with more rampages overall

[full quiver]

hmm

[near delta]

It's what people do in pve at least so 🤷

[full quiver]

assuming you're watching your slaughter stacks?

[near delta]

Yup

[full quiver]

with 4pc i think hitting ww every 3rd gcd probably not a big deal

[near delta]

And just send something if running out of time

[full quiver]

without reck up seems a lil sus lol

i spam it whenever i'm kiting or moving between targets to hit pets/kevin

[near delta]

Yup same

[ancient sonnet]

Yea if you have CDs up rampaging multiple targets does feel real nice

[nimble jasper]

feels fine imo

prob got used to it tho

[ancient sonnet]

Well that's just like ... your opinion man

[nimble jasper]

you get settled into a rhythm

alot of specs have some buildup

[craggy socket]

Bro fury is fun as fuck

[sharp meteor]

ooga booga

[craggy socket]

ZUG ZUG

[sharp meteor]

i need to find me a cute dk that'll chains people so i don't have to string

[mystic barn]

[sharp meteor]

fury benefits from being able to just sit there and mash those 2 buttons

like as arms uptime is obviously important but with fury it's everything

actually unhealable pressure

[mystic barn]

I had 2 min of shackle up time in a 2:30 min game yesterday

was literally running for my life

[near delta]

Shackle?

[mystic barn]

chains I meant

[near delta]

Ohhh

[full quiver]

Wish my dk would still shackle for me

Hate pressing hamstring and having rampage not lit up anymore

[sharp meteor]

I remember queuing into unholy and living the limb

then killing the dk through ibf at 100% without cc on his healer

[full quiver]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

I'm like hm I think I've got dam

[full quiver]

were you on arms

[sharp meteor]

yes I have only played 20-30 fury matches

[near delta]

I feel like my arms damage is more consistent

[sharp meteor]

my third warr is nearly setup for that so I'm happy

[near delta]

Whereas I get fucked as fury if they get happyfeet

[mystic barn]

this happens every once in awhile

[sharp meteor]

play jungle it happens all the time

[mystic barn]

https://gyazo.com/da84c67311e656c8435d83715b29d7de

[sharp meteor]

hey that's kyrianspear

limb is terror

[mystic barn]

is that him

[sharp meteor]

it is indeed

small world

[full quiver]

Lol

[mystic barn]

also that wasnt even limb

he was the lucky winner of being the one out of 25 games soul reaper going off

[elfin surge]

@spice hornet we good?

[mystic barn]

oh my god dont ping the man i didnt know it was him

[sharp meteor]

ding ding ding winner winner you get to be timmys dinner

50% dmg amp during cds is horrifying

[mystic barn]

i mean

[full quiver]

kinda cringe to post vid and then tag him qcp

[mystic barn]

it was 50%+26%+12%

[full quiver]

guess the c stands for cringe

[raw summit]

quite
cringe
person

[mystic barn]

[sharp meteor]

u rang

[elfin surge]

@raw summit we coo?

[raw summit]

i hope so

[raw summit]

hello yes i would like to ask if you play AM into disarm classes

to out-rotate disarm

[sharp meteor]

as arms? god no

[raw summit]

as fury

[sharp meteor]

haven't played fury enough to say

the godfather is right there, ask him

[raw summit]

@elfin surge am into disarm cringers?

[mystic barn]

am into dk

[elfin surge]

@raw summit we good?

[raw summit]

yup

[sharp meteor]

did something happen

[raw summit]

idk

actually

maybe the qcp acronym

[mystic barn]

that is not my prefered acronym

[raw summit]

what does it stand for

like normally

[mystic barn]

Qfarm Cwarrior Pnerds

[sharp meteor]

wishin bladestorm gave u stacks of whirlywind

[raw summit]

that talent row is so dead

p unfort

[elfin surge]

just checking if we good after what happened

[raw summit]

this is almost as confusing as people playing disco over holy

and yes we good cuz nothing happened

[mystic barn]

he doesnt remember @elfin surge

[raw summit]

:clueless: i dont

[elfin surge]

we aight tho

[raw summit]

is it about the qcp thing or this just something from the mud rulebook that i dont know

[full quiver]

mudbutt

https://tenor.com/view/for-sure-thats-squirrel-poop-gif-13442829

[raw summit]

weird ass bit

[mystic barn]

why is scoobs allowed to post discord gifs still

[full quiver]

lol

better question: why is a man who only plays dks get to type in here

[sage raptor]

We were many but ye are not

[near delta]

DKs are our brothers in zug

[hasty fractal]

Hi all, Necro Fury in 2s. do I got 100% haste gear (when applicable)? Feels like my crit gets real low...

[raw summit]

crit isnt too beneficial for fury

[full quiver]

You get crit from reck

[hasty fractal]

Any tips vs rogue/mage?

[thick reef]

Bladestorm after ur healer is sapped

[full quiver]

yeah that's when signet feels bad

lol

[ancient sonnet]

Can you bloodrage poly?

[wet scarab]

don't think so but you can use it on frost nova

[near delta]

Sometimes you randomly bladestorm cc with reck tho lol

[ancient sonnet]

well right thats the obvious use but was thinking using the dmg to break it a la swd

[wet scarab]

yeah BS timing so satisfying when you do it and hear "kidney shot"

[thick reef]

You can blood rage frost nova??

[ancient sonnet]

it clears roots

[wet scarab]

yeah

@ancient sonnet how would you do that? the damage isn't delayed like SWD

it's not over time either

[ancient sonnet]

yea it was just a random thought that I wasn't sure if someone had tried :p

[wet scarab]

ah ok

[ancient sonnet]

I'll try it myself but am doubtful as you say it isn't delayed

[full quiver]

truuuue

that feels so good lol

[wet scarab]

so signet plus blood rage and double time warbringer and watch the mage panic absolutely

[full quiver]

i still need to test whether you can reck while you're disarmed and have it proc BS to remove disarm

[wet scarab]

I chased a mage halfway across the map and back with reck procs, double time, leap and bloodrage

when he cauterized it looked like he was in an utter panic

then died to a warbringer charge

[thick reef]

Oh my bad i thought it was berserker rage

[wet scarab]

you have to take the bloodrage pvp talent but it's fine in that matchup since the rampage MS effect isn't useful against RM

[ancient sonnet]

what are the talents against rogue mage? Enduring, Bloodrage, Disarm?

[wet scarab]

I take warbringer, disarm on and off, and bloodrage

[full quiver]

lol

[wet scarab]

double time

full send

I don't really find enduring rage that useful with 4 pc to be honest, I play without it in pve and there's constant rampages with 4pc

[thick reef]

Anyone plays arms in 2s

[sharp meteor]

2s is hunter bracket

[thick reef]

Pretty much

[brazen dew]

So I haven't pvp'd since vers was still buffed up by the trinkets, how important is it to just stack nothing but vers now?

Like do you just explode like before now or is it more friendly to having other stats

[spice hornet]

What?

[thick reef]

You gotta have 30% at least

[spice hornet]

I haven’t been playing

[elfin surge]

yo we good?

[spice hornet]

What do you mean?

[full quiver]

Lol

[elfin surge]

yeah we aight

[spice hornet]

I haven’t been on

[full quiver]

Not for long

[hasty fractal]

so bloodrage and double time vs rogue/mage?

[spice hornet]

As you can see by my lack of crying about destro

[full quiver]

4pc in route baby

[spice hornet]

The past few days

Oh I see you’re pinging everyone

We good

This season gave me depression

[sharp meteor]

it is a good time to take a break LMAO

[spice hornet]

So planning to live in Spain for a month

[wheat jay]

Fuck pvp

Fuck mc bug

[hasty fractal]

just played 24 games in 1800 brackets with a resto sham, went 11-13, lost against every rogue/mage. On the plus side, I destroyed every lock I saw, destro and aff. Also lost once vs priest/Unholy DK first time I focused priest, rematch I focused DK and blew him up.

[wet scarab]

I hated it until I switched from arms then up until 1900 anyway I'm winning more hunter games than I'm losing with 4pc

[raw summit]

you also findin it has to do with walls

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge I’m the furry godfather

[brazen dew]

fucking STILL?

[raw summit]

being jumped into em etc

[wet scarab]

a few weeks ago it seemed a whole bunch of shitty priests rediscovered the MC bug and were deliberately trying to exploit it by jumping you into walls and stuff

when they are in 50% of matches it becomes quite tilting

[mystic barn]

I haven’t crashed during mc yet but my game froze in time during a poly

[raw summit]

thats the holy priest reroll crowd

[wet scarab]

was the only time I went into a class discord to flame them

[raw summit]

ive had it ruins/drome/mugambala

[thick reef]

Haven’t played any 2s since I got 2 set. 1800 is hard

[wheat jay]

No

It doesnt

I got mc bug after being brought to the very middle of maldraxxus arena

No jumping

Just walking

[spice hornet]

It can involve jumping

Camera snapping as well

[wheat jay]

Noone jumped

Camera didnt move frantically

Just walked my character to the middle of the arena

[sharp meteor]

Remember in wod when they just disabled mind control

[raw summit]

wouldnt be opposed to it

[sharp meteor]

It's like yo shits fucked gonna just turn it off until we fix it

warlocks might've been lines of 1s and 0s while running around 60 yards above you in rbgs

but they did disable mc

[dark sparrow]

So with 4pc, do we almost always opt into RA?

Also is there a general rule of thumb when to cancel bladestorm when using signet

[raw summit]

id cancel for rampage if slaughterhouse is about to fall off ig

prolly also for exe

[wet scarab]

BS is such a fun bursty cd in fury I find I almost never cancel it unlike in arms where it was a cc dodge

banner BS when the other class is out of defensives feels very good

[sharp meteor]

Rampage into bladestorm during all cds is like dang somebody is melting

especially if you manage to dodge a disarm/stun with it

yum

[wet scarab]

such a satisfying ability

"Kidney shot" OH NO YOU DIDDNT

[full quiver]

i noticed very quickly in seas 1 that if you spammed jump, you were more likely to get the MC bug where you're teleporting everywhere

[near delta]

When you get the dr on you too 🙌

[dark sparrow]

K thx that makes perfect sense. What about the RA over AM with 4 pc

[full quiver]

i have not had an issue with MC since season 1 with the rubber banding

[wet scarab]

yeah RA is a shoo-in with 4pc

[nimble jasper]

jk vanish

kidney healer full

[wet scarab]

kekw

by comparison I often didnt even bother getting out of arms bladestorms

[dark sparrow]

And just hope they disarm your proc rather than your full go I guess, thx

[nimble jasper]

btw

[wet scarab]

they all do that yeah

[nimble jasper]

does intervene have a dmg cap

[wet scarab]

nobody understands fury and they WA clutch

it also almost doesn't matter if they disarm the actual reck because with 4pc it's always proccing and they can't kite you

the mini charge is low-key nerf potential

[nimble jasper]

people too reliant on addons in general

[wet scarab]

yeah it's a pavlovian response now

almost scripted

[nimble jasper]

omnibar not tracking shadowdust cdr to kick

always funny kicking healers

who see kick on cd

[near delta]

Your healthbar

[full quiver]

i've been playing fury

and if they're necro just disarm banner

[wet scarab]

my favorite is when a kiting class discovers for the first time in-game that you are running double time

you can almost see the hunter's sadness

[nimble jasper]

i’ve seen some shit tho

watched a warrior walk into rop

and boot himself off the blades edge bridge

[wet scarab]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

literally me

ook ook

[mystic barn]

Lol

Or ropping a da dk

makes sense

[nimble jasper]

wasnt even aimed to knock him off initially

just walks at an angle

that it knocks him off

[full quiver]

i like blade storming into rop when they try to rop my signet go

[wet scarab]

I have a fantastic MW who uses ROP offensively and it's extremely satisfying to see how panicky it makes some dps

[full quiver]

and then spaming charge on them

while it tries to get me out lol

[wet scarab]

he did it on a wall while a hunter was turtle ressing his pet

and the ROP kept him bouncing off the wall

lmao

[nimble jasper]

weirdest part about bfa

rop on abom

and the abom just

flies into the air

[wet scarab]

we were in a 3s game and this boomkin tries to kite around the box stack in that annoying map with the water eruption in the middle, he RoPs one corner and I go round the other and the druid looked like he was trying to run in all directions at once

[nimble jasper]

rdruid players choke so hard i swear

[wet scarab]

they do I've killed rdruids during recklessness charge windows and they really don't know what to do when they can't run away

[nimble jasper]

last season would just ring druids on tranq

and they just stand there for a sec

dumbfounded

[wet scarab]

it's like the rogues who count down their DRs, if their scripted bash/clone/roots somehow gets disrupted they can't react

[nimble jasper]

nah rogues best is getting a tilt trinket

then killing them for it

[wet scarab]

heh

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[near delta]

"That means good game" this must be pasta

[raw summit]

(that means good hame)

[wet scarab]

I hope it is because I worry about the cognitive functions of anyone unable to play the most busted class in this game

[wet scarab]

give us the paladin helm and this will be perfection https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-officially-reveals-classes-for-each-primalist-raid-tier-set-concept-art-326790?webhook

[mystic zodiac]

so has anyone found fury to need over 20% haste vs adding more vers?

#1 warrior right now has 19 with 36 vers

[warped warren]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Destruction Warlock. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Immolation on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our infernal AND our Rain of Fire is in the perfect location to do ANY damage. We lose everything if tanks move at all. Classes like Mage and Survival hunter don't have to worry about tanks being dumb like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Destruction is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with shards and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing destruction, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Destruction Warlock because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high keys now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[ember rose]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Destruction Warlock. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Immolation on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our infernal AND our Rain of Fire is in the perfect location to do ANY damage. We lose everything if tanks move at all. Classes like Mage and Survival hunter don't have to worry about tanks being dumb like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Destruction is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with shards and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing destruction, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Destruction Warlock because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high keys now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[thick reef]

so as a pve andy with 4pc and jailer gavel how hard will it be to get 1800 for elite set?

[raw summit]

should be fine

[thick reef]

fury or arms for it?

[uneven mist]

Fury

[runic galleon]

is 4 set worth for warms

[raw summit]

gives u more dam

[earnest wharf]

after we convert our conquest pieces to tier pieces, when we get higher rating later we can still upgrade it as if it was the conquest piece right?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, just don't int your ilev.

[raw summit]

Yup

[wet scarab]

Arms 4 pc is very nice in 3s but I found I got a lot less value out of it than fury except in melee cleave comps

Too difficult to keep up pile on stacks against meta kiting classes

[elder wigeon]

arms 4 set is painfully mediocre

[mystic barn]

[full quiver]

Play fury resune

Join usssss

[elder wigeon]

fury is fun for sure but you're a damage bot

[full quiver]

Yeah lol

[near delta]

Arms is below BM in raid in last place. Where them buffs at?

[full quiver]

It's more braindead than dh I swear

[elder wigeon]

never gonna happen we were good for a little bit this season, more than enough for blizzard

[near delta]

True gotta help the struggling specs like umm destro lock

[near delta]

It really is lol.

[sharp meteor]

Arms pve in shambles just like nathria

where the pve buffs at

[elder wigeon]

the buffs are in dragonflight

[sharp meteor]

woo only 13 months away lets gooo

start the expansion as worst dps end at as worst dps

[elder wigeon]

very poggers

[sharp meteor]

arms d tier unironically

[elder wigeon]

yeah arms does suck in pve

[sharp meteor]

also they super neglected condemn lol

buffs to execute and it's just immediately forgotten

i figured they'd have tried to keep it useful in some ways but it's just bad at everything

[elder wigeon]

is what it is

[sharp meteor]

oh well i prefer spear and banner anyways

even if everybody and their dad has the honk honk blink now weakaura

every priest above duelist gripping spear when not crossed can also be nice because they do it early enough that i can spear both of them

[near delta]

Imagine being middle of the pack in the one raid fight thats perfect for your spec lol

[full quiver]

Not gonna lie I'm thinking about boosting a warlock

Lol

[mystic barn]

bop be on banner reeee

[elder wigeon]

apparently windwalker monks suck too in pve

[lucid walrus]

no shot

that's gotta just be ST

[near delta]

Is that heroic? They're a good bit better in mythic.

Just like last season

[lucid walrus]

p sure they're still crazy in keys but warlocks are memed in both areas for a reason

[near delta]

Survival with tier set is absurd

[elder wigeon]

95th percentile for mythic

[near delta]

Get to roleplay as bomberman

Oh weird this is what it has for me

[sharp meteor]

Oh, well. Maybe Destro gets a fat nerf that carries over into pvp then they gut resolve or something.

[near delta]

They have to give them some sort of nerf right? Lol

[elder wigeon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/shadowlands-dps-rankings-in-season-3-week-7-mythic-sepulcher-of-the-first-ones-326730?page=2

[sharp meteor]

Arms literally at the bottom.

Wooo.

[near delta]

Dayum that one week was rough on ww lol

[elder wigeon]

warrior isn't really struggling in pvp because of damage, it's durability and mobility against wizards/hunters

[near delta]

The fact trill played enh during prog is all you need to know lol

[sharp meteor]

Haha yeah durability against wizards

I love afking behind a pillar until my shit is back up

[elder wigeon]

warrior is piss against wizards with current design

[near delta]

And then the frost mage jumps in your face

Pressing his super skillful one button rotation

[elder wigeon]

I actually don't mind frost mages if I'm allowed to play necrolord arms

the chops are INSANE

[near delta]

Agreed

[elder wigeon]

i seethe when I'm kyrian against wizards, which is funny because kyrian is supposed to solve that issue

[near delta]

If you could respec in the room warrior would be perfect

[sharp meteor]

Yeah warbringer mortal strike or something can drop a mage from like 80% during cds

[elder wigeon]

wizards just bug out of the spear and invalidate it, and the burst window in spear is significantly less than necrolord

[sharp meteor]

it's just that running for a minute is gay and destro is in a tier right below rmp

[sharp meteor]

so generally you can kind of avoid the bug with like a piercing

as they have to trigger the pull then shimmer during it

[elder wigeon]

nah the best wizards can do it even howled

like the multi r1 ones

[sharp meteor]

hmmm kind of a mixed bag

can't spear air anymore as everybody has the weakaura

[near delta]

Wait huh?

[sharp meteor]

so has to be on bolt which most of them get gripped on

super tedious playing the most popular spec actually

everybody has been speared like 1000 times now

[elder wigeon]

lmao have to force a mage to blink before stormbolt and spear

[sharp meteor]

yeah

and they play gay trinket too

[elder wigeon]

so fucked

[sharp meteor]

okay so the way the bug works is that the "pull" on spear has a minor icd, think less than a second

[near delta]

Right

[sharp meteor]

what they need to do to get out is get pulled, the blink during the pull

if you prevent them from moving into pull range, or bolt them as they do, etc it can scuff their ability to do it

and most mages, even the multi r1 ones, will int 2 shimmer charges + fox trying to bug it

[near delta]

I used to get out of it pretty consistently with roll and port as ww last season

Ah that makes sense

[sharp meteor]

you just HAVE to stick the spear

fall behind even one spear and you're doneski

unless they int super hard

[mystic barn]

just da or ams spear

ez

[sharp meteor]

I usually send spear into their partner.

pin the arms on their conq banner or dh on their stuff to maybe get meta

[mystic barn]

I’m always the kt vs war idk why

[sharp meteor]

yeah queuing into unh as turb pchill

unless it's kickypet because he hits like my dad

[mystic barn]

reee enhance shotgun

[sharp meteor]

my sham just randomly executes people from half health

[mystic barn]

I got a sick pre amz pre ams vs turbo last night and still almost got nuked lmao

finally getting games in and the game doesnt feel as bad as i imagine it would

[spice hornet]

They fail this and still can’t even punish them@because fire mage design

[sharp meteor]

Actually tho lmao

[spice hornet]

Alter time needs to be arcane only

[sharp meteor]

I love pulling up the stream of some rmp and their coms the entire time are like "oh i fucked up" and "oh shit they actually pre'd the go" like eight times and they barely lose then they're like BROOO turbo is BULLSHIT MAN

i threw bust into astral shfit TWICE wtf why didn't he die ughhh

[spice hornet]

[sharp meteor]

like my sham walls at 100% i disarm the rogue and priest/mage almost 1-tap him in a cheap

[spice hornet]

Yeah it’s so broken

[near delta]

When they say "idiots trinketed" after some bullshit I wanna die

Triple resonator with no cds "Those dummies trinketed"

🙄

[full quiver]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

Look at this retard who trinketed bust blades dance mind games rofl the idiot

wouldn't even tick me off so much if rmp weren't so durable

[near delta]

I feel like Iiterally can't go toe to toe with a rogue

[sharp meteor]

also why does ray amplify healing by 50% and it freezes dam on a 60s cd

[near delta]

Just with all their tankiness and the disarm

It's bizarre

[sharp meteor]

losing as rmp is legit just them drooling on themselves into everything other than maybe jungle or some unh team

[elder wigeon]

RMP turns you into a sociopath

[sharp meteor]

gonna die, go to hell and spend eternity tormenting greasy-haired rmp players

[full quiver]

Lol

Why can't I just go in spam rb and rampage and do nothing else 😠

[indigo barn]

Bring back reflecting all spells during SR pls

[full quiver]

Has anyone tried a full mastery build as fury

[meager mauve]

as a fury warr when should i take Impending Victory or Reckless Abandon in 2's?

[full quiver]

Ra into things that kite you or when you have 4pc

IV whenever you want

[sharp meteor]

Mastery is comparable to haste in terms of raw numbers but haste is better for stuff like globals, enrage uptime, etc.

If you want the most dam then haste>mastery>vers

and just make do with 18-24% vers from pvp gear or w/e

mix in haste/mastery pieces like rings

[mystic barn]

you can also catalyst off pieces and not just tier for the stats u want

like im gonna catalyst belt for 100 haste 35 mastery or w.e

ez

[sharp meteor]

Vers is a very underwhelming dmg stat for fury imo and the play (at least in matchups where you feel safe) might be to have an offensive and defensive set.

I'll need to actually try the gear. Or maybe you don't need more damage and just need to live for a bit.

[full quiver]

Yuck

2 sets in bag is druid all over again lol

[sharp meteor]

It's probably not worth and you'll see Mud play to r1 on 5 Warrs just running vers/haste every game but I think it's a fun thing to think about.

[full quiver]

Lol true

[spice hornet]

Anyone else disappointed with the arms 4pc

Feel like it’s not even worth losing the vers

[wet scarab]

I mean it’s pretty underwhelming in all content but you would be denying yourself an average of 4% strength and free overpowers

[elder wigeon]

honestly i don't notice more overpowers

it's only when csmash is up anyways

50% increase on 1.4% per rage isn't that huge when you consider it's only on offensive abilities on a target you're hitting with csmash on

[mystic barn]

tbf wouldnt it be great during sweeping enduring windows

[elder wigeon]

if they wanted it to feel like fury, it would be 100% increase on 1.4% per rage on csmash OR 50% increase on 1.4% all the time

[mystic barn]

does it double dip

[elder wigeon]

it doesn't double dip

[mystic barn]

ah ok

[elder wigeon]

it's just straight piss, one of the worst 4 sets all things considered

[near delta]

Make it like 16%

What's the worst that can happen

[mystic barn]

welcome to the tierset depression club buddy

[elder wigeon]

100% increase on 1.4% would make you feel like a obliteration frost dk

2.8% per rage during csmash windows would be insane, 84% chance on a mortal strike to proc tactician

[near delta]

It feels like there's something off with the overpower proccing part

There's barely any extra

[elder wigeon]

because it's only on damaging abilities when you hit a csmash target

50% increase on 1.4% is 2.1% and that's 63% chance on a mortal strike

[near delta]

oh right

That's pretty mediocre lol

[elder wigeon]

if it was double dipping it would be really strong on warbreaker

especially if you mortal combo

you'd likely double proc

4 instances of a 63% coin flip to reset a charge

if it double dipped there would be a 86.31% chance per mortal strike

mortal combos don't count as rage spent, so that's the cap actually

[sharp meteor]

It certainly feels underwhelming. I have just been playing 2pc because 4pc is on 2 normal pieces.

Maybe I need to baank more rage to hit into smashes with.

it buffs ms/slam into smashed targets but often use targets/globals on other stuff

[elder wigeon]

I don't think it's that, i just think it's not very good lmao

if they buffed it to 2.5% per stack and buffed the increased chance to 100%, it'd absolutely feel like a power moment

[warped warren]

[undone pumice]

blizz buffinf warrior this season? keep dreaming

[elder wigeon]

I really don't think arms needs more damage, but that only really seems like the only avenue they can go down unless they nerf the shit out of dk and enhance

if they nerf dk damage and nerf enhance healing then I think you can buff warrior durability

[wet scarab]

arms is lower than feral now in overall raid dps -_-

the funny thing is that even on fights that are designed for arms cleave fury and a bunch of other classes do better

but you don't hear warriors complain as much as all the other classes about needing buffs

I'm not sure there's another 4 set bonus that is as underwhelming and as pointless in pvp as the arms one

for any spec

[full quiver]

i got 60-0'd behind a pillar

because the chaos bolt got off still and proc'd double

and hit for 2 20ks lol

reeee

[undone pumice]

just line it

[elder wigeon]

kekw

magnusz would've won that

[full quiver]

Reeee

[lucid walrus]

no room to complain

d-stance nerf sucks and our tier isn't ace but we've had it good for a year and a half

[near delta]

Just line it 4head

Pre-line the proc

[near delta]

They're talking about pve arms was bad season 1 too

[mystic barn]

uzza cope

[full quiver]

Tbf fury is fun af rnow

Bet 4pc feels sick

[lucid walrus]

ah

expecting pve warrior to be good in any sense compared to bfa is a fool's errand

[full quiver]

Arms is fun for the 15% of the game the other team is all in Cc and you aren't about to die

[near delta]

D-stance gonna be switched to 10/10

[grand scaffold]

it is?

[near delta]

No

[grand scaffold]

😦

[near delta]

But I'm manifesting

[mystic barn]

lol

[grand scaffold]

just remove warpaint and give both warrior specs 20/20

[near delta]

Why tho?

[lucid walrus]

what for

[near delta]

Fury is all about turning your brain off and zugging

Aint nobody got time to think about stances

[lucid walrus]

we get a presumable complete talent overhaul next patch it'll probably work out

[near delta]

There are glowing buttons to press out here

[lucid walrus]

eagerly awaiting a playtest to see what trees look like

[near delta]

If they really nail the trees that would be incredible

[mystic barn]

fury literally built to w

and u dont even need to w with 4pc

[near delta]

Sometimes I hold rampage

Just to keep charging

[grand scaffold]

that would be fun

its annoying arms got 0 new talents this expansion

[lucid walrus]

using dreadnaught feels good

technically was reworked to be not only usable but strong

[grand scaffold]

what was wrong with it last patch

60% dmg on mortal strike seems pretty good

like

imagine that

• condemn using exploiter

and sharpen blde

blade*

[marsh wharf]

how is fury fun right now getting tunneled every match in 3s

[nimble jasper]

you not used to that?

[indigo barn]

S2 was too soft on many

[nimble jasper]

always assume you can be a kill target

vs real teams

[elder wigeon]

i mean arms and fury both get tunneled by every team

[undone pumice]

skill issue

[runic galleon]

is venthyr viable in pvp atm ?

[undone pumice]

as fury yes

[runic galleon]

but the other two just give more ?

[undone pumice]

its ok

but probably necro is best for fury

[spice hornet]

Can’t remember the last time I saw a vrnthyr arms

Troll spec

[undone pumice]

arms troll spec

prot bi

bis

[mystic barn]

noob

[lucid walrus]

compared to bfa

we’d play AM

[undone pumice]

u so noob

[mystic barn]

no

@elfin surge

[undone pumice]

ok

hypthoetically

next expansion will return a more deep talent tree

what if we get sunder armor

[elder wigeon]

sounds aids

[elfin surge]

Well ur rude

[thick reef]

How good is joe fernandes

[undone pumice]

good

[thick reef]

How does disarm work on BM hunters ?

[undone pumice]

it dont

[grand scaffold]

yes it does

they cant shoot you

[elfin surge]

it dont

[scarlet barn]

Now im confused

Who would I trust more

[steel rune]

Disarming BM stops them from pressing kill shot, cobra shot and barbed shot. Most of their damage is tied into kill shot and barbed shot there are just better talents to run

[raw summit]

it wont stop pets

[scarlet barn]

Wrong

Most of ther damage is tied to pets

[thick reef]

:cage: 👈

[steel rune]

Barbed shot increases their pets haste stacking 3 times so I’ll disagree with you

And if I’m wrong why is every bm hunter break down kill shot, venthyr lego then barbed shot

[scarlet barn]

Well you see, exactly that. It is the pets in the end that matter

You just slightly cripple them

But not enough to matter

They literally just laugh if yo udisarm them

[steel rune]

That’s why I said other talents are better genius

[scarlet barn]

ANd you said the most of their damge is tied into kill shot and barbed shot also

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steel rune]

Well it is I’m not wrong, the burst comes from kill shot. Sure if he disarms as his healer gets trapped he will probably live that go but chances are you aren’t on him especially if your arms. If he disarms he isn’t going to get kill shot 3 times which is 30k+ damage depending if he crits so again disarm does something just not the best talent

[undone pumice]

you are wrong

[thick reef]

I saw joe fernandes using disarm against BM so I ask

But he doesn’t use disarm talent against ret pally🤔

[steel rune]

Because disarming rets does literal piss they can final verdict without weapon

[thick reef]

Is Mr Fernandes in the discord I wanna ask him myself

[undone pumice]

@grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

Hello!

[steel rune]

Just go to his discord

[thick reef]

Aight

[grand scaffold]

even into ret warrior you disarm the warrior instead

ret can still dmg with disarm

tho it is less

[fierce elm]

disarm mage?

[fickle forge]

disarm monk?

disarm felguard?

[steel rune]

Disarming mage stops auto attacks during combust go so could be good if you kick on fire

[fickle forge]

disarm feral?

[wet scarab]

wrong disarm hunter pet to reduce teeth damage

[fickle forge]

Disarm the felguard so demo lock can't stun you

[warped warren]

you dont see pet damage

[undone pumice]

disarm my will to live

[warped warren]

bop my will to live

[fickle forge]

The true Blessing of Freedom experience

[wet scarab]

America is the world's paladin

[steel rune]

No but you can assume if details shows 500k damage and leader board at end shows 800k that the pet did 300k. Big brain no wrinkles

[undone pumice]

not because it heals you it bubbles you

[brazen valley]

Yo... was the shield slam 1shot ever nerfed?

[elder wigeon]

Not to my knowledge

[undone pumice]

shadownerfed prob

but its incredibly telegraphed and takes multiple gcds to ramp up and needs to crit

if u get hit by it ur rraction speed is slower than mine

[sly walrus]

Disarm dn

[brazen valley]

im not getting hit by it... i want to hit ppl with it 😉

but it seems weaker on target dummy than its advertised

[scarlet barn]

Layyne just mad cause he got called wrong

[mystic barn]

feelycraft

[warped warren]

i cant count higher than 4

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-league-of-nations-gif-13351359

[steel rune]

Just didn’t want him getting bad advice from someone who doesn’t pvp

[scarlet barn]

Well he got advice from two people right from start.
Both are specials in our hearts but hey, they play pvp

[sharp meteor]

It stops cobra and kill shots.

they can still kill command, though, and dispel

plus what with their dmg profile it's generally pretty low value

[full quiver]

anyone else here still queue kitty

[ancient sonnet]

my feral buddy just got 4pc so I'll prob try it soon

[rare sentinel]

so why does necrolord not use Battlelord any longer?

[ancient sonnet]

Enduring Blow is more damage

[undone pumice]

battlelord small cock

[full quiver]

yeah the feral damage playing draught and 4pc is high

[thick reef]

am I griefing if I play venthyr arms in 2s with deadly calm?

[raw summit]

yes

[sharp meteor]

probably

[elfin surge]

@raw summit @sharp meteor

[raw summit]

mud do you see any merit in non-necro fury

[sharp meteor]

[mystic barn]

what are those bird things

[elfin surge]

kyrian fury is good as turbo. Venthyr fury with 4 set might be good. Is that what you're asking?

[mystic barn]

what about nightfae

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

I imagine the off-dr stun might catch some people off. Knockdown reasonable if you can somehow keep them in there, but stuff that'd be good at keeping them in there (dk) would probably be better with something like necro.

Necro and Kyrian seem like they have the most potential.

[raw summit]

yup

ty man

[thick reef]

are those stats good for fury, or do I need less crit if I'm switching?

[raw summit]

im running this so idk :)

no real bad stat for us

[full quiver]

damn 24 24

[raw summit]

i was enchanting mastery but idk if thats correct whatsoever

only happy with my vers and speed

[full quiver]

on my 3% speed war

[floral ether]

My 2's comp is a resto druid and me fury warrior. any tips going against a Holy priest and BM hunter? Should I train the hunter? Or continue trying to kill the priest. he usually jumps in the sky when my cd's are down. 1850 rating.

I play necro too.

[full quiver]

Someone in here played hpal fury and just went priest every game with IV and battle trance

If he flies in air you can crank pet for 10s

[elfin surge]

more haste

im 32% haste

[thick reef]

alright

what legendary(ies) are best for venthyr fury?

[hallow lance]

Guys, im noob into warrior clases, Id like to learn bout pvp, what spec u recomend? Fury or arms? Kyrian or necro? I just play 2v2

[floral ether]

fury necro

[merry valley]

Hey returning player here! As Fury should i buy the offhand weapon with conquest or wait it out on the vault and meanwille use the conquest on other pieces?

[hallow lance]

Its better or just funnier? I gotta decide wich spec gear up:(

[floral ether]

It's really strong when you get your 4pc tier set.

Very high damage output

[sharp meteor]

Comparable and yes.

Also gear is mostly the same although Arms benefits more from, like, crit

so if you wanna have a solid set for both just go vers/haste on everything

[hallow lance]

I always heard bout arms got more "control" on pvp, but I dont know what is that control suposed to be

[hallow lance]

Ohh didnt know that, ty

Prolly ill do that

[raw summit]

Control in that case means Arms generally runs more CC and other helpful effects for their team

Ie war Banner or duel

[undone pumice]

fury either doesnt have these or its harder to use because u sacrifice a lot more than arms

[near delta]

Just using hamstring feels bad as fury lol

[undone pumice]

yea

fury is like

budget dh

[full quiver]

I'm getting carpal tunnel from playing fury lmao

[near delta]

Yup

[undone pumice]

skill issue

imagine not already having cts

[wet scarab]

The real skill issue is y’all dying to warlock one shots through aegis wall and rally

[undone pumice]

the real skill issue is playing pvp anymore

time to level another random tauren hunter i will abandon at lvl 13

[wet scarab]

Why 13

[near delta]

Just do what I did and have a level 50 hunter you haven't touched since bfa laying around

[wet scarab]

I’m playing my warlock a lot more in pve

With like 245 gear he’s doing 8k dps

Such a busted class

[undone pumice]

just do what i did and lvl a warrior from 10-60 in 7 hrs /played because you hate playing endgame content

[full quiver]

i swear i'm pressing keys 3x as often as fury than arms

[undone pumice]

u have more haste

so probably

[full quiver]

yeh

i played crit arms primarily lol

[undone pumice]

bruh

[full quiver]

and then last night healer started PIng me instead of druid

[undone pumice]

lmao

[near delta]

I've been having a blast playing surv the wildfire Infusion rotation with all the different stuff you do for each bomb is so fun

[undone pumice]

bomba

im going to play

leaper single minded fury

im gonna be the fastest hunk of metal u ever did see

[near delta]

Do eet

And play venthyr

[undone pumice]

yeah my 2nd warr is already venthyr

[near delta]

With death sentence, war bringer, and double time

Unkitable

Ra too

[undone pumice]

yeah its literally what im doing

i am going to be

inescapable

i may not do dmg

but i will be terrifying

[near delta]

May not have damage but goddamn the uptime will he legendary

[thick reef]

yea enduring overtakes battle

been like that for a while ngkl

ngl

[full quiver]

deepak has betrayed us

hunter player

[near delta]

I'm still playing my warr just need a bit of a break on the ole wrist sometimes

[jaunty furnace]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-looking-to-convert-solo-shuffle-in-rated-solo-queue-in-dragonflight-326794

There it is boys

Official solo rated que

[undone pumice]

lesgo

[near delta]

Amd wod gearing

*and

[undone pumice]

lesgo

[dry trail]

death sentence has cooldown

it's not like season 1 condemn condemn condemn

[undone pumice]

me when

rated solo q

[near delta]

It still feels surprisingly good on arms even with the cd

[undone pumice]

yes but

[dry trail]

when it's on cd and u press it makes a swoosh sound but does not charge

[undone pumice]

its not the best option anymore

u want warbringer not ds as arms

[near delta]

If you got room just take both

[dry trail]

fuck arms fury pure aggresion up until duelist

[thick reef]

true

[undone pumice]

pure ANGER

[thick reef]

fury just more preasure

man

[undone pumice]

pure SLAUGHTER

[near delta]

I have no idea how people push arms in 2s

[undone pumice]

pure RAMPAGE

[near delta]

It feels miserable

[thick reef]

PURE CRUHSING BLOW

i carry ppl as arms at like 1800 mmr rn

could be 2.1 but its w/a its feels meh

feels like ur dead the whole game and u do no dam outside of ur cds

[undone pumice]

pure murderous intent as fury

[thick reef]

yess dude

[undone pumice]

run them down and gut them like fish fuvk them clothies

[thick reef]

as fury all u sense is blood

[undone pumice]

[thick reef]

yesss

BLOOD AND HONNOR

[near delta]

If everyone and his brother didn't know how to get out of spear now it'd feel pretty good imo