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moogabooga kind of cringe
lost to arcane sub 
queued into hpriest/shadow/unh and the shadow played double leap leggo
healer disarmed mage and goofed cd
it was when i warbreakered so i assumed his focus disarm bind was busted as he did it twice
ook ook
🐒
@sharp meteor what rating are u ?
2600, 2500 and 2200 
the meme disarms were in like a 2k 2s game that my healer griefed me with on his pve geared hpal
he's super short on time as a gamer dad
which is fine
Greetings i got a questions, i play as arms with an dh and im asking myself what is the better healer for this comp hpriest or rsham and why?
Probably hpala
Got only the choise between these 2 because my healer is also a premade and only got these 2
Maybe disc priest
oh my god scoobs
What
he gave you 2 options and you picked 2 other options
And why disc over holy?
Because it heals cleaves a lot better
Mhm okay thanks for the information 👍
faced 4 set bm
wee bit crinj innit
idk man bm just shits on me harder than surv
another MC dc
fuck this dogshit ass game

some priests legit abuse it
its so fucking disgusting
i cant do shit either
cant sac or whatever
priest kyrians and kills healer
🙃
ive had this happen in s2 too so whys this not fixed
cant you make like a plastic wall around the actual out of bounds walls
so you cant collide
im assuming partially being outta bounds/instance causes it
phil... u can't be mad that priests are finally viable man 😆 it's called skill, we the warrior apes can't match it
im not smash desk mad
holy shit im starting to get so fucking sick of destro
not gna have a bruin here am i
kyrianspear... u can't be mad that locks are finally viable man 😆 it's called skill, we the warrior apes can't match it
🤣
decent pasta
tier kind of pushed them over the edge
gotta write up the latest stacking buff weakaura
to avoid getting shadowlands'd
you are not tired of frost mages yet?
@sharp meteor send me it once u do pls
i want it to have a red flashing outline when they are nearing full stacks and fog horn my brain off
Idc about frost they're annoying but delete aff and especially destro
lock being good is truly the most miserable thing
@sharp meteor send me it once u do pls
i want it to have a red flashing outline when they are nearing full stacks and fog horn my brain off
i legit mean this
first thing i thought when u said u were doing weak aura
plz and ty
I legit meant it too 
I was in raid talents open World today and accidentally played dragon roar in arena
Shit Hits like a wet noodle...
Hhahah dragon roar
anyone try onslaught?
been playing massacre instead of frenzy vs rmp but I feel like onslaught might lowkey be ok
onslaught is highkey troll
Are people playing fury or arms mostly in twos with a heals?
survival if you aren't scared of having more than 5 binds otherwise bm
if i need a legendary power from dungeon boss for a twink, are drop rates high enough that it's better to farm the dungeon or faster to just farm Cosmic Flux for guaranteed buy?
Raid power drops are 100% now. I think dungeons are too. Not much farming. I’ve even gotten them on Normal grouped with non-60s
it depends on the dungeon and how popular it is
if its from plaguefall good fucking luck
cool thx, higher drop rates now i'll giev it a try. I need the one from De Other Side for Survival hunter
oh that ones really popular i believe
the trinket is really good for pve
opc or smth
Question, I'm playing with a Warlock as Fury in 3v3's. Should I be using necrolord or spear?
i would say spear because you can keep the dps off of the lock
so the lock can freecast for a while
but necro is good too
makes their burst way bigger
Spear is nice both offensively and defensively; pin a guy (or two) in infernal+soul+havoccoil bolts etc
there's also peeling the two melee unga bungas off his face
spear buffing teammates (provided you're in range and in los) is also good, like no warlock is gonna be upset with mastery, and aff loves the movement speed
What could work with fury warr in 2s
We've been hardstuck for awhile now with rogue buddy.
He plays rogue & Hunter atm so brob need to reroll or force him to play his priest 🤣🤣
generally warrior only works with a healer or hybrid with strong off-healing
there are some fringe things that i could see working but that'd usually involve playing below your skill level
you will have more success with a healer in 3s, especially with his hunter
ah yeah the struggle
Was thinking about rolling resto sham for his hunt
Until I get 4set and deticated 3s healer
so generally i'm like hey play what u like etc
but do not play rsham right now
especially not with a hunter in 2s
all my healers seem to enjoy their priest even when it isn't broken like right now
Also earth ele = 100k passive dps
rock ele feels super troll sometimes especially with hunter
they just drag it over their trapped teammate
Mabey then up my ret pall
And run some 1tap 2s
With rogueret
And he refuses to play assa
FML
I need new teammates

sub/ret is fine
Assa ret is better
hmm i haven't seen it recently
Thoughts on recklessness vs anger management in 3's?
hmm only with tier
Ra when u have tier
Am when not
Yes w tier i mean
i can't see them not tapping assa tier within the next few weeks
But then again no1 is gonna have good time in arenas w/o tier now
sub and assa should both be excellent tho
my alt warr has 1 pc and it's mostly fine
Do I wanna run signet or deathmaker with 4 piece?
gosh that's a chunk of games
Signet is best for fury
DMG & chance for another reck/avatar
And cc immunity x2
Deathmaker is just like og rotten in S1
Cheese 🧀
Combine that with Necro and deviser and the impeding victory build
We can live trough alot
wut ?
Just constant pressure but it's gutted to 30% chance
So its even worse
its a BiS legendary
Actually
Idk bout that
it's 100% sure
Signet has more use
all 3 top fury EU are deathmaker
this discord gives so much falses infos thoses days
Are we top 1%
?
Well mabey on bar with sotk but idk about being better
signet = deathmaker
yep
deathmaker is going to be
100% morw consistant
signet will have bigger bursts but
the rng can actively harm you
yeah but
signet literallt changes your rotation at times
deathmaker is passive income
sigma male legenderay
Tell that to the RMs i farm 😂
at what rating ?

deathmaker is like rare fish
signet is like mongolian warehouses
Was 2.2k when I played with paladin then played with my rogue buddy
Dropped back to 2k

Meh I prefer sotk over dm atleast
I think mud runs sotk also
When he plays fury
y
I'ma be mud when I grow up
😂
Tough +15 years of warrior and rogue and still my peak is at 2.3k ever
And that's in mop

while we are invested in rare fish and mongolian warehouses mud invests into exceedingly rare lumber
Idd
Still gonna just copy my homework from him ))
Gg
Mabey I'm getting too old and should just play chess
Or minefield
2.3k is still good tbh
doesnt matter when you got it
Well if its was in the end of SL s2 its +300 inflation :p
So 2k
or if it’s end of SL s1 it’s -300 deflation so 2600
of course the « when » matter a lot dogo
rode a 8game winstreak up to 2420mmr today
my reward was magnus and dno
needless to say my healer got clapped by magnus
Omegabruh

i know
tryna cheer someone up a bit
hahaha
15 years of experience doesn't say a lot of it's not active experience
incorrect
200years of collective experience 
aphelios....
😎 👍
Being very good at a video game is admireable, but...
It just don't get bitches on ya dick
It did for some
🙃
I keep telling myself that when I was hardstuck at 1.8-1.9 at start of s3 🤣
Still no 4set beta when all other furys having fun RA lawn mowing ppl down 
I'm just PVEing down ppl, playing with my 2k1 mate from last season he just started playing 250ilvl gear no tier no legendaries, at 1800 by now
just going full APE
fury with tier and RA is stupid
happened to me yesterday ye, feels bad
RA charge has internal cooldown, about the same as death sentence
No im p sure i just wasnt in rage properly
DS is 6 seconds — not even close.
in tsg is fury or arms better?
since when
I watched mud charge with it 3x back to back
It doesnt have an icd
Me saying it didnt charge me is me being out of range by a bit i guess
there is no internal cd
i dont know where that guy got that fact
haha
crazy
more than me even
you are in the top 3 dogus
Lol
yeah
atleast not number 1
lmao
probably season 1 i was number 1 bogus nonsense
now fury is really good
u should enjoy it and try to give true infos
should be nice for everyone
yeah
wait the 5% mov speed gem from bfa and SL speed gem both work and stack in arena? 😮
Iirc bicmex had a spreadsheet on how to get 130% in arena
For hunters
Which is just fucking disgusting
video game depression
Wow must be so fun as warlock main
move speed pet, all gems, enchant on back, upgrade thingy from 262 boe crafting
a mount in the ground is 200%, 130% is like ghostwolf I think
xd
yeah pretty sure RB charge has no internal cooldown, I've had it proc multiple times during goes and charged 5 times with it into a poor druid trying to run away
I've even killed a warrior when the charge bugged out while I was rooted
double time warbringer is actually really fun too, just need to figure out which comps to properly trade it for the lack of self heal
not all healers can keep up with that level of mobility
cant be !
What sorta enchant and gems you rocking for movementspeeds?
best 2v2 healer ? i feel resto druids are lacking
feral
Honestly which healer is immaterial. Yeah hpriest is bis but it’s also a question of how you like to play and people you jive with on LFG
Can confirm 130% ms on hunter is clownshit
Especially when disengage and masters call remove snares
Melee spend 60% of their time trying to reach you
I like the added pressure disc priest brings and the ability of MW to kite melee and revival warlock goes, and shamans ability to root and kite DH to a certain extent
Be fury with 4 set, RA and double time warbringer
Hunters can’t kite you
90% uptime with bloodrage
I don’t know how arms does it anymore but fury 4 set is the answer to hunter in 2s
doesn't rogues rape u tho as fury ?
It’s not that much worse than arms at least you can enraged regen in stuns
what leggos u are playing ?
all ur pvp gear is with mastery ?
I feel like deathmaker is probably bis but it’s not as fun and necro banner plus recklessness will murder people
Haste vers mostly and then mastery
With 4 set I’m never out of raging blows or rampage
im 3100 rio as fury in pve
but dunno in pvp
i am around 1700 2v2 and i usually beat fury wars holy priest
fury is my favourite spec but feel arms is stronger
I’m only around 1900 but if you’re that good with fury in pve you’ll easily get to rival 2
Esp if your four set is that good
so what pvp talents to run ?
Just less whirlwinding involved lol
Enduring rage battle trance and the MS on rampage one, but I swap into warbringer and double time of high mobility is needed
Disarm into other warriors
Or rogues
As you play more regularly with other healers you’ll get a better sense of their playstyle and when you can do without the self healing from impending victory and battle trance
kyrian or necro ?
necro is more fun
too many classes have ways out of spear
if you like fury in pve I would just play it in pvp, it's actually probably stronger than arms in 2s. Arms control is much better in 3s
I play kyrian there
anger management or reckless abandon ?
RA if you have 4 pc for sure

good afternoon i hate rmp so much it's unreal
also u play sunden death impending victory or storm bolt ?
trying to learn to start playing it
is prot warrior the new meta now or what? :p
I play sudden daeth instead of fresh meat, that's more pve
impending victory if I feel the healer will get cc'ed a lot
double time into high mobility classes like hunter rdruid
i have 4 set but pieces are with no versa
I crafted separate unity and signet with haste vers and you can get the 262 verse haste crafted ring from the AH
if you have high level rimebinder that also gives you a lot of vers
lmao
you can also get the conq 2H if you have conquest left over
i have 278 rimebinder
that's perfect, no other conq 2H has haste
I'd use that with haste vers leggos and crafted vers ring
with 4 set should get you around 30%
shoulder and helm both have vers IIRC
battle trance usually, the rampage MS for RM teams
yeah that's good, need a bit more haste but great place to start
When did he post that? Lmfao
do 4 set even if it has no vers
it's way too op
try to enchant and gem for vers to make up for the loss
got turned inside out by kyrian outlaw rmp and now they're #1 on ladder after winning like 50 games in a row hm
not looking forward to seeing people play that especially if mage takes resolve trinket
Trill opening with double kidney shot is broken af lol
it's certainly interesting
Im still at 2 part can wait to try 4 part
Proccing RA must feels good
And reckless ofc
the extension feels the nicest
fuck yeah in 2 days I have it
Sure feels good to know that the season starts in 2 weeks and 2 days
Tier and legendary items should be disabled in pvp tbh
A lot of specs are hella bad without tier and leggos lol
Imagine nerfing a specs tier set before anyone actually gets to test it out
tbf kinda happy they nerfed feral one lmao
but yeah rsham set is just abs shit for pvp
and then their cov leggo equally shit
True we'd be getting necro feral one shots lol
should I just put EB on helmet if I'm not revered to use the unity leg in other slots than waist
feral set still fucks
it was mostly a pve nerf
yeah my buddy has the 4pc and we did a kitty session
was fun
gonna try frenzy band + PI + necro banner
yeah with frenzy it'll be closer to 2 mins
and then i'm playing necro fury and just doing my pve rotation lol
Turbo is best for warr
whats RA sorry?
reckless abandon
How's rated arena lately
How bout warr lock? The ol good wls
fun if youre a warlock
@white wraith yhoull ahve to find a lock willing to play with you instead of playing with a frost magician
jungle mlx rmp mlx mlx jungle jungle make the pain stop
Actually friend plays warr, tryna find ranged class to play with him 3s. Non mage.
Thanks
ah so you use RA when you have 4 piece?
I alr did at 2p
Is it worth buying two 2 handers or can I play SMF ?
AM feels so good tho
feel like you're always ready to do a go lol
maybe opposite
maybe i gotta try RA more lol
you still run RA into ret/war, turbo??
plus the 50 rage feels kinda shit when you rampage, reck (procs bladestorm) and you're insta rage capped
Ramp reck ramp seems fun
i guess
Oh Signet
yes
You tried deathmaker yet?
i'm a poor boy phil
Me too man
"yo Phil whys ur Ring so shit"
I spent more on missives than item
deathmaker seems like it'd be better but signet is so dang fun
Spinnin' is winnin'
yeah we've only queued 2x so far and i feel like so much CC gets eaten by random BS
one thing i wanted to test was whether you could reck while disarmed and have the BS proc (and remove the disarm)
kinda risky but could be pretty funny
If that worked itd be so insane
lol
Trinketing disarm i should do more
Paladin usually has enough for me to live
I just sit on it for like a full match
Idk
fury needs good pressure
to stay off backfoot
so i usually do it then bs to get my second proc off
and that eats any follow up most the time
Honestly procing Avatar is great too
Just get paladin to bop ur disarm bro
I hate fighting mw in 2s
holding w at mistweavers out the gate was always fun
pretty killable in a spear fortunately
yeah im to dumb to understand those changes
You can see what they’re changing with the crossed out grey numbers and the replacement green numbers
They are all modifiers for pvp
Some damage reduction for mage fire spells, lock, etc
I like how they only messed with demo locks and left all the other stuff alone. Lol
all they gotta do is fix echoing resolve, it's single-handedly making resto shaman unplayable
damage and healing is too high, but rshams can't do anything against wizard cleaves
that's the biggest offender to rshams, is echoing resolve on mages and locks
No changes yet, kind of concerned.
Pacing is all fucked for rsham, plus their tier is poodoo.
Lol
Both my healers benched their shaman.
resolve needs nerfed to 6 seconds from 15
The double leggo also bad for them
Don't know why they don't just unnerf rshams tier at least
double lego is trash for necrolord warrior, it's still good though, but tier set is good for arms and definitely fury
Won't be enough but give them something
I'm going to be livid if they whack Enhancement before rmp/wizards.
Doesn't feel trash as fury lol
Big banner uptime
at least for arms, it's not good
Spear is just crazy good
Have you tried kyrian fury
No, but I wanted to, and my shaman REALLY wants me to.
Although maybe a bit less what with doom falling off
kyrian fury is dope
it's really annoying sometimes when you play heal though
have to just raw dog the spear
locks have a weakaura that yells at them to port spear when it's casted
@sharp meteor did u make that wa
no my healer did but now i can't find it
Doesn’t it only work for locks if you spear them near their demonic gateway
So it's possible to have a little weakaura that honks when the spear is thrown, so if you aren't in cc (or have a medallion + port macro) you can avoid the spear with port
similar thing with mages and shimmer which is off global, anybody and fox, etc
You can gate to rip spear off, but the idea behind porting/blinking after spear is cast is to dodge it before it lands
Ah sounds like a pita to do as fury since the two other talents are more in use than stormbolt
I think that was why I decided to be necro instead of Kyrian for fury
kinda random but why exactly are guardians so much better than other tanks in rbg?
i don't think i've seen any other tank in 20 games
bears don't take damage and have an immune to cc for 30 seconds button oh and stealth
signet and siegebreaker leggo both good
So its personal choice? ill be playing lfg randoms
signet is higher burst, deathmaker is single target sustain
i've heard that the siegebreaker one is nuts w/ tier but no exp to back it up
can imagine both are bc tier's crazy by itself but ya
You are constantly able to rampage with tier so it’s like maintaining very high uptime on colossus smash
i wish crits gave you more rage
I thought that they did
not as fury
i wish dstance waznt fucking useless
aside maybe warbringer meme slams
kk
wish they'd make dstance 10/10
I'd love to play crit as fury and not wreck my fuckin wrists
play full mastery
Signet probably better?

i think i overthink shit
can never preplan cd's and shit or what im gonna do in arena
just zerg into it
never really learn
struggle to think ahead and plan around what i think theyre gonna do etc
bruin should q before the kyrian outlaw surge comes
because the floodgates have opened
you’d prob run at healer cc warrior
xd
having a blind every min roughly is pretty troll
simply blind slappy hands so it’s useless
tbh could
tbh kinda wanna give it a whirl
cuz fucking over hunters feels so good
pog
Double kidney opener is the most shadowlands shit lol
the most shadowlands shit so far
the most shadowlands shit I saw tonight was kiting a fury during their go just to realize that death sentence is baked into their rotation and they charge me over and over back to back
like i hardly ever know when to hold certain cd's or defensives/cc
for upcoming enemy shit etc
usually I’m able to chains and dance at a specific range to not be charged and to not be able to get attacked but this hit diff
or properly using all the cc and defnsives on classes like rogues etc, rather than popping multiple at once
when u dont need to
and order of cc rotation/defensive rotating etc
Just a lot fuck.
well you see Bruin
pvp is dynamic
and it takes many different scenarios vs many different comps to get the feel of it
get to max level in arena knowledge
bruins cr is higher than his xp
for venthyr arms do I take memory or the Sinful Surge of Enduring Blow?
I'm torn between the two
venthyr arms KEKW
I don't understand your question
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if you're venthyr you 100% have to play sinful surge and enduring blow
so confused
someone let me know if this is real and viable LOL i kinda wanna try it
which memory do I use on a venthyr arms warrior
sinful surge and enduring blow
all you can use anything else is a significant damage decrease relative
I'm a little confused, I can use both?
Yes
Sinful Surge is unity, then you play Enduring.
sinful surge is your covenant legendary (unity) and enduring blow is your class/spec specific legendary
@elder wigeonhave u tried that giga cheese?
ah gotcha
No, i value my reputation more than my rating this early in the season
which is why every destro and frost mage is on the shitlist
we love mlx
why not in rated? lol
fury is more fun for me @woeful solstice , you can get pretty far in all pvp modes as fury too. Played Arms from MOP - BFA so was a fun change. I just resubbed last week from 9.0 too. The top 20 warriors in 3v3 are split almost exactly 50/50 Fury/Arms so both seem pretty viable
fury 
is the lvl 3 kyrian sanctum transporter upgrade worth it just to bind to Bastion but be able to port to Oribos? Or once you're maxed out you don't bother going to Bastion regularly anymore?
I just put it in haven
What sites are people using for arena builds, ranks, etc?
I just go off what feels good and what I've queued into that looks good.
doubled weekly conq gonna be super cool to be able to build whatever set you want soon
maybe that new site people are using might be useful because it goes off what people use in a matchup rather than what they log out in
squadov or something
kyrian fury, necro arms?
Was arms for a century but Ngl Fury is feeling epic
Charging like a fucking bull everywhere with monster pressure and cool anims
yeah I did some fury in bfa season 1
loved it
been arms since vanilla but always loved dabbling in fury
wait did i just fuck up going kyrian
ok i wanna give fury a go
its prob better for fury than arms
cuz every rampage is a multi second banner extension
fury also wants mastery a lot more than arms
because mastery is straight dmg increase
Hotswap in oribos anytime. Just have to hit 80 on one toon
oh really, ok
so probably better to just finish my venthyr at 40?
then swap to necro
im trying to get pvp ready asap
or is the catch up strong?
is venthyr really bad for arms pvp?
venthyr is worse
so its bad
it sucks up all your rage
giving youless opportunities to press mortal and ignore pain
and door of shadows
isnt exactly good
fleshcraft is a 20k absorb and phial is a 20% heal
do yall ever run Sparkling Driftglobe Core?
against like RMP to be almost like another trinket to save you on big setups?
wich do you think is more easy to play fury or havoc? I'm afraid because of the surviv of dh
honestly personal preference
dh has more mobility
warr is kinda cooler tbh but in terms of how easy it is to play
dh takes the cake
maybe rivaled by bm hunter
DH can be played with 1 bar
basically cant be outrun and you do so much dmg with like 2 buttons
seriously?
Sure
wow
but dh very is to kill true? if you dont have blur
blur has a 40 sec cooldown from what ive heard
fury has enraged regen which is kinda good
especially vs melle that u cant line
you got impending victory which is kinda good
but
dh has way more survivability
blur
meta immune
30% leech
darkness
you even got a full heal on your own health from the necro proc
oh yeah
i play mine with netherwolk instead i feel more safe with some immunity in low cr
rain from above
eh
play soul rending
its way better
especially with necro
might be the reason you dont feel dh is so tanky
i ll try..i also dont play necro..i ll try
definitely play necro
night fae is a bit bad tbh
kyrian is worse version of night fae
venthyr dmg is dispellable
i play venthyr with 2 min meta and eye beam build
probably dont play 2 min meta
other pvp talents are quite a bit better
definitely dont run cycle of hatred
that talent makes your dmg low
because you cant do big blade dances
these are the talents you want
these are the pvp talents you want
rain from above can sometimes replace isolated prey
also run the burning wound legendary
conduits
make sure you run marileth
main issue with venthyr is that you can dispel sinful brand or whatever its called
yes i know..many times healer dont dispel especially in bgs 😄 but i ll try necro thanks 🙂
what soulbind for venthyr pvp
actually draven could be good for the tankiness
wait fury is best for pvp ?
yes
in arena too?
yeah
so dont play fury venthyr 4set?
Seen some draven
^
Id just try em all
honestly speaking tho
what talents for fury pvp
i wouldnt play necro over venthyr
aha
sudden death
stormbolt in 2's impending victory in 3's
frenzy
warpain
cruelty
bladestorm
reckless abandon
pvp talents are
enduring rage
battle trance
and slaughter house
against surv hunters remove enduring rage for bloodrage
you guys are da best
against warriors and high burst melee remove battle trance for disarm
:3
Heal 20k every 25s seems fine
deathmaker on cloak
for venth
take these) depths of insanity
hack and slash
then ashen juggernaught or the condemn conduit but ashen juggernaught is much better
take disturb the peace and safeguard
then the conduit that makes enraged regen have a lower cd
always make sure you have 3 potency
and 2 finesse
and 1 endurance
AJ IS ASSSS
not really
It's half the effect as venthyr
so
It's completely dogshit
It's so fucking baaaad
Shouldnt be venthyr in the first place 
take the condemn conduit over fragment
Dauntless duelist or whatever it's called
3% strength is so meh
why

Because this isnt pve and you arent chaining condemns
everybody knows that
You wont stack it high and crit is a meh stat for fury anyways
but you arent stacking crit
your gaining crit for 1 button
which crits hard tbh
what
so
my guy is playing condemn
not necro
and
playing condemn is kinda fun
never run out of stuff to press
Im just saying i dont see much value in either conduit
i didnt argue with that
Half the time i wouldnt be able to use it since they are between 20 and 80
but they are both better than running dauntless duelist
you miss out of 15% on roots by doing that
when that goes on cd
15% less on roots
also
you cant run bloodrage every game
other thing is
i play human 😦
Since when tho
a long time now
i played horde for a while
transferred to alliance again
got told that human was better
i shouldnt have listened honestly
my friends play ally
^
Arena Q isnt what matters
que doesnt really matter in arena tho
Since you can match own faction
you go vs horde and ally doesnt matter what faction you play
Thing is lfg on Horde is huge and you can actually do m+ n stuff
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