pvp

[ancient sonnet]

How important is OH wep for Fury?

[scarlet barn]

Not as much as main hand

Main hand ilvl carries

OH is still important but not so much

[ancient sonnet]

Right so should I prioritize other slots and just hope for vault wep? Or is it worth saving for at some point I guess

[full quiver]

lol

[elfin surge]

@wheat jay ur bad at the game and should just stop trying and give up. You'll never reach your goals and it's just a waste of time.

[wheat jay]

bold of you to assume i am trying

and i already achieved all my WoW goals

[elfin surge]

ur dad doesnt love u

[wheat jay]

i know

fuck him

piece of shit

/spit

[elfin surge]

yeah fuck that guy

[wheat jay]

ye

[mystic barn]

artji wants to fuck his dad

🤨

[wheat jay]

not in that sense

[elfin surge]

sketch

[wheat jay]

O_O

[elfin surge]

artji fuck me?

[wheat jay]

anytime habibi ❤️

[scarlet barn]

We have time inbetween

[grand scaffold]

thats shocking

how little do you do

[scarlet barn]

Its called skill of multitasking

Ask your healer friend to coach you on that

[fickle forge]

Can we take that to #transmog please?

[grand scaffold]

haha

thats a good one

ngl

[scarlet barn]

Perhaps

[full quiver]

ndogoooo

easiest way to prove raz wrong

is post a vod of yourself playing

[grand scaffold]

thats a good idea

[mystic barn]

ndogo higher cr than razonko

[grand scaffold]

ahahaha

[full quiver]

^

[grand scaffold]

what cr is razonko

[full quiver]

only 2200

[fierce elm]

0

[south wren]

Hi guys, im new to fury, but do have the 4 set now...can someone tell me the burst rotation on this? priorities as it were

[scarlet barn]

0

[grand scaffold]

that explains why he so mad all the time

[grand scaffold]

burst rotation

[scarlet barn]

I am just patient watcher

[fierce elm]

smack Rampage

get rage for rampage

[grand scaffold]

banner > recklessness > then you spam raging blow and rampage

[fierce elm]

smack rampage again

[grand scaffold]

if you can raging blow then use bt but use raging blow as much as possible

[scarlet barn]

Basically at 0 cr i can still use more brain than Ndogo

[grand scaffold]

crushing blow*

[elfin surge]

@grand scaffold show cock

[grand scaffold]

so why you at 0 cr

[mystic barn]

because he’s 0-12

[scarlet barn]

Cause I am PVE andy atm

[fierce elm]

Show monster @elfin surge

[south wren]

thank you :))

[grand scaffold]

ive been pve'ing lately too

tough tho

[elfin surge]

@scarlet barn

[scarlet barn]

Sup

[elfin surge]

razon is bad

[fierce elm]

dont ignore me famous streamer @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

@fierce elm idiot.

[scarlet barn]

Shush Redbull chugger

[fierce elm]

[elfin surge]

[grand scaffold]

actually how have you been

not seen you talk in ages

[elfin surge]

🍆

[fierce elm]

Avoiding WoW entirely

[grand scaffold]

sheesh

how come?

[fierce elm]

WoW sucks lmao

[full quiver]

afro hard stuck elite

[fierce elm]

Real life gains > wow gains

[grand scaffold]

facts

[full quiver]

sort of

[grand scaffold]

how much can you lift now

[full quiver]

but what if your whole life is wow??

[fierce elm]

not enough

[grand scaffold]

wasnt it like 280 something kg last time

[fickle forge]

Turbo Cleave: Is finally an S+ tier cleave
Afro: Has a full team, including the best healer for turbo
Also Afro: "Aight Imma head out now 😎 👍"

[fierce elm]

lmao

[full quiver]

lol

[fierce elm]

Sigma mindset

[grand scaffold]

?

what is it now

[scarlet barn]

How about both

[grand scaffold]

afro still spitting facts

[scarlet barn]

Only fact is

he cant do both

kek

[vital pagoda]

We still run signet over dmaker in 2s as fury? Preferably? Idk cuz meta bursty af kinda wanting to try dmaker out too.

[grand scaffold]

do you do either

[scarlet barn]

I do

Succesfull Life

[grand scaffold]

nice

grats!

[scarlet barn]

Big PVE gains

Thanks

[grand scaffold]

😄

[scarlet barn]

May life bless you too

[grand scaffold]

thanks bro

hopefully it keeps blessing you

[scarlet barn]

Thank you

[mystic barn]

See why can’t you be nice like ndogo

[scarlet barn]

I literally

Blessed him first

smh

[grand scaffold]

i try to be nice all the time

thats true

[mystic barn]

Say something nice about ndogo

[scarlet barn]

like

this

[grand scaffold]

he said something positive

[elfin surge]

i dont think anyone knows whats actually best for fury yet

[mystic barn]

I want more positivity

Don’t settle

[grand scaffold]

ok

[grand scaffold]

thats true

if i had to make a guess i would say deathmaker tho

less targets to go after in 2's

but again nobody really knows

for the time maybe pick what you enjoy

[sharp meteor]

might vary by what you're playing with and who you're playing into

[grand scaffold]

test both a low ilvl

[elfin surge]

I hate deathmaker its for noobs

[sharp meteor]

so experiment with stuff

[grand scaffold]

i like signet more

the burst from recklessness avatar is nice

[sharp meteor]

double spin is neat

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[mystic barn]

Dstance nerf was the biggest buff to fury

[grand scaffold]

its definitely up there

but

i thing slaughterhouse was

think*

without slaughterhouse people would still play arms honestly

[elfin surge]

without dn fury would die

[sharp meteor]

how poorly does unh/fury do into jungle

[elfin surge]

LOL

[sharp meteor]

is that when u queue another warr

[mystic barn]

you run down healer and make it a 1minute game for either side

[grand scaffold]

interesting

i usually go feral

so they cant do dmg

[mystic barn]

cringe

[grand scaffold]

squishy without huge frenzy regen

ill try healer next time

[elfin surge]

i turned on my stream a day ago and instantly 3 jungles q up. does that answer it

[sharp meteor]

shambles

[near delta]

Snipers no sniping

[full quiver]

lol

[elfin surge]

I would love to but im locked at a pillar all game.

[south wren]

Guys...how do I counter survival..do I blow their turtle really early..damn hard to connect tho..as fury obv

[sharp meteor]

the other night we queued into the same team 3 times in a row

[grand scaffold]

do you usually go healer too?

[sharp meteor]

ded ladder

[elfin surge]

not rly

[grand scaffold]

oh

so you go hunter or whatever you can hit?

[sharp meteor]

use stuff to break roots i imagine, bloodrage or w/e

can't let them just pop away with trap on you during your stuff

[full quiver]

just get 4pc

mud

duh

[elfin surge]

usually hit whatever u can but like i said im usually getting fucked all game and forced to sit at a pillar

[grand scaffold]

thats a good strat

ill try it next time

[sharp meteor]

i find with jungle that we go on hunter with bolt/static then play around pillar hitting feral until hunter pushes in

because it can be very hard to chase the super slippery hunter if they're good about cycling stuff

which can be fine if you've got like an rdruid or excellent map but in general i think it's pillar between bolts on hunter

at least that's what has felt best for us

[elfin surge]

hunters wont kite me i just cant chase because then i range my healer and give feral free clones on my healer

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's what i mean

u get dragged into bad spot

so just have to turn and hit the cat or something

[elfin surge]

literally dead all game to jungle its anti fun

[sharp meteor]

or priest idk just need to maintain damage

yeah its a lot of sustain

i rly dislike it as arms as they just eat my face

[elfin surge]

buff war

[sharp meteor]

idk if we have a negative wr into it but the matchup feels bad

[grand scaffold]

facts

they hit it too hard

[sharp meteor]

because im just perma dead to air

[grand scaffold]

if arms had 15% d stance in terms of dmg taken and done

[sharp meteor]

i rly hope they nerf surv tier and pouch or flayed shot kill shots etc

[grand scaffold]

and something like bloodrage

it would be awesome

[sharp meteor]

i wish kyrian potion reset in combat lol

ripping off frenzy and flayed is big

[wet scarab]

if you have 4pc in 2s surv is almost trivial to deal with

[elfin surge]

4 set feral is unreal btw

[sharp meteor]

yeah huge aoe feral frenzy

berserk finally a button

[wet scarab]

I haven't run into that many, feels all the druids who have 4pc are either playing balance or resto

[full quiver]

we were gonna try some necro feral, necro fury 3s tonight

druid has 4pc

[sharp meteor]

I think it's one of those things that's super potent but hasn't popped up enough for people to really understand it

it's not quite sepsis levels of damage but it's pretty spooky and people might not have a foghorn for it yet

well they do for berserk but yer

[near delta]

Yo forreal ran into it yesterday. Feels like assa lol

[elfin surge]

i fucking hate jungle.

[grand scaffold]

its so annoying

more annoying that fighting MLD

[pale minnow]

Who's Karanze in this discord?

[undone pumice]

holder of the highest bench press recors in this discord

[wet scarab]

@elfin surge pretty mean of you to constantly bully warriors in your stream matches ;_;

[elfin surge]

who i bully

[sharp meteor]

I deserve to be bullied.

[undone pumice]

true

fuck you tea pot

[sharp meteor]

I don't know how to deal with Fury/Unh damage for like 30 whole seconds.

[wet scarab]

heh was watching like the 2nd or 3rd game on the stream when you crushed this warr-ret team after parry

felt bad for the guy

[elfin surge]

get fucked

[wet scarab]

yessir

quick question though - any reason you prefer the crit trinket to the haste one?

[mystic barn]

Kargish

[elfin surge]

i dont?

[worthy fern]

Kargish Karanze karanze

[sharp meteor]

crit can be nice for kyrian/necro arms but imo haste is the play for fury

[wet scarab]

ah I thought I saw it on your char screen in one of the matches

mb

[pale minnow]

@fickle forge yo we just fought in 3v3 u played with unh dk

[fickle forge]

gg fam, what comp were you?

[pale minnow]

Mistmonk, sp, fury

[fickle forge]

Ah yeah, you just barely took the cake right?

[low sparrow]

Hey guys as fury when playing signet if it procs a blade storm do we let it go off or cancel to rampage

[grand scaffold]

depends

[low sparrow]

On what

[grand scaffold]

bit tough to explain

lemme think

idk

i guess just depends

if the bladestorm is hitting hard or not

if its doing potato dmg and your fishing for an avatar proc

then cancel it

like when you play night fae

you do bladestorm just to get an avatar proc if you dont already have one

then you do aftershock

if you tryna cleave maybe dont cancel it

[low sparrow]

Ah ok that makes sense what if you got no rage would it be worth to keep for rage gen or the other abilities will be better ?

[pale minnow]

Ah well your dk just melted from my dmg

[grand scaffold]

yeah

it helps a lot

ooh

another thing

if your enrage about to fall off

then cancel it and do rampage

if its not gonna fall off

maybe dont cancel it

again its all situational and depends on what you tryna do

[low sparrow]

Ah ok got ya

[grand scaffold]

like if you get the bladestorm proc and are in a smoke bomb dont cancel it

if you getting cc'd dont cancel it

against disarm classes i wouldnt suggest canceling it

cuz then you just do 0 dmg

[full quiver]

ideally you want to rampage right before you get the proc so you can sit it and not be cc'd while doing dam. then you can rampage out

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[full quiver]

that way you got the enrage going like ndogo mentioned and your slaughter house stacks are refreshed

[echo zenith]

sorry forgot to ask earlier, what stats on deathmaker for pvp? haste vers?

or stick to haste mastery?

[raw summit]

Haste is more important than mastery in pvp

Imo

As vers is a fine damage stat which kinda replaced mastery

And necrolord generally favours haste

[sharp meteor]

Vers is super dog for damage.

[raw summit]

Ye but we get more than mast

[sharp meteor]

Mastery is probably the best damage stat.

[raw summit]

But we need a haste floor for sure

[sharp meteor]

It's just haste is likely better than mastery because you need slaughterhouse uptime, then there's the global aspect in PvP

then vers has the defensive aspect

[grand scaffold]

haste vers

[sharp meteor]

Almost wonder if it'd be the play to have a mastery and then vers heavy set depending on matchup

actually don't even have many options as to pieces so maybe not

[full quiver]

this yeah

[echo zenith]

and what pvp talents to use as "general"? slaughterhouse, battle trance and enduring rage?

[full quiver]

always slaughterhouse

battle trance feels really good into a lot

[mystic barn]

haste does nothing when ur cced

[raw summit]

I dont think i have the cojones to drop vers quite yet

Would rather play death wish

[sharp meteor]

Slaughterhouse for the ms, probably enduring, battle trance doesn't work with crushing blow

Idk bloodrage to break cc and rage gen is good

warbringer good with necro and for more lockdown

can take disarm into stuff like arms fdk etc

[full quiver]

battle trance if you keep it up entire game

is a massive amount of healing and rage gen

[raw summit]

Ye ur right b trance kinda dead if ur RA

I gotta try 4 set AM

Should be ≈40 sec cd

[sharp meteor]

I feel like healing doesn't mean much because Fury gets 1-banged by most bad matchups, although it can be okay for like overall throughput

Also not sure how rage regen compares with say bloodrage if the matchup has roots hmm

[echo zenith]

and unity haste vers too?

[scarlet barn]

Tbh any combination with haste

Is fine

Crit prob the least

Vers/ mastery the most

[full quiver]

into other cleaves / jg + IV lots of healing throughput

it stays on during stun

[sharp meteor]

[full quiver]

🙂

[sharp meteor]

hey guys don't worry I pre-tranced the go

[full quiver]

it's just more healing

rather get another 1% hp/second hps than 0

[sharp meteor]

i mean it's not free as you've got other talent options

[full quiver]

right and bloodrage does nothing to prevent you from being "one banged" lol

unless you're clearing a nova to line frost mage i guess

[undone pumice]

bloodrage actively kills you dead

[full quiver]

BT feels really good if you keep it up

[sharp meteor]

counter

pressure

[raw summit]

Minimal damage taken

From bloodrage

[sharp meteor]

ya 5% is nothing

if hp pools wer ehigher trance would b cool

slower pacing etc

right now fury prewalls and just gets gibbed by some stuff

[undone pumice]

everyone does that

except rmp

they dont have to prewall

[sharp meteor]

i've been hpriest get dusted

through fade actually

[nimble jasper]

does rmp even have wall besides feint

evasion doesnt do shit considering you can be cheaped through it

[flat isle]

Considering how good RA feels with 4 piece, battle trance just isn't as great

I've been running a lot of double time/warbringer for max ooga booga into ranged

[thick reef]

late response but yea i dont like this patch at all

[ancient sonnet]

Do you only use Bloodthirst when you're out of raging blow charges or is there ever a time to use it? Suppose if you're not enraged?

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

[thick reef]

just weird yk

with all these randoms buffs ns tuff

to classes

just makes game crazy

[ancient sonnet]

Echoing Resolve just needs to go away and we gucci

[flat isle]

Or just even an ICD

[sage raptor]

Soulbind for fury?

[undone pumice]

oh right rmp doesnt need walls they just tank everything by reviving

[sage raptor]

Rip

[undone pumice]

marileth/heirmir for necro

mika for kyr

[sage raptor]

Ty

[undone pumice]

draven for venthyr

uninstall wow if night fae

[sage raptor]

Lmao

I just play nf for legacy raids.

[undone pumice]

nadija is good for venthyr i believe too

but u want draven for defense

[sage raptor]

Do I take the auto phial or Phial knockback?

[undone pumice]

idk

i like autophial

[sage raptor]

Whatever?

Yeah I don't have many endurance conduits

Do some fury unironically use impending victory or is that a meme? Idk if losing a stun is a good idea.

[undone pumice]

its unironically good

[sage raptor]

Okie

[undone pumice]

40% heal on 25 sec cd

[sage raptor]

Not nerfed in pvp?

[undone pumice]

restting upon kill

no

[sage raptor]

Sheeit

[flat isle]

Also

Stormbolt with all the resolve trinkets

Is just sometimes cancer

[sage raptor]

True

[flat isle]

I find myself flipping around between all 3 on that row honestly

Since double time into some ranged comps isn't shit

[sage raptor]

Yeah I can def see use in that talent

Do I need to run the impending victory conduit?

[undone pumice]

no but its fine i

i just dont know what u would replace

[sage raptor]

What should I use for the 40 row

Talents

I should've been practicing but I've been goofing off with prot , waiting for catalyst.

[undone pumice]

wtf is lvl 40 row

[sage raptor]

Nothing

I found out

[sage raptor]

The talent row

[full quiver]

Iv is good, conduit for IV is good

[undone pumice]

what is in the 40 row

[sage raptor]

Seethe, Frothing Berserker, cruelty

[undone pumice]

cruelty

[sharp meteor]

anything other than cruelty is inting

[undone pumice]

pve too

[near delta]

Wait what. Had no idea trance didn't work with RA. Sounds like a bug.

[undone pumice]

it is a bug

im somewhat sure cruelty is bugged with it too

would have to do some more testing

[full quiver]

i swear i've gotten resets while enraged of it

idk if it's doing the additional dam

[sharp meteor]

it is lmao or at least was

but fury saw little play until recently

and pvp doesn't get many tweaks so

[jaunty furnace]

Just play prot these days and one shot people to 2.1

[nimble jasper]

also works as dh

pretend blur is a dps cd

[earnest wharf]

so... is prot actually good at low rating if we just want to quick cap points for the week? what's a good partner for prot war?

[sharp meteor]

Prot is propped up entirely by the 4pc

[jaunty furnace]

Yeah

don’t play prot unless you got 4pc

[earnest wharf]

well shit! I won't have that for a couple weeks 😦

[sharp meteor]

If u wanna randomly 1-bang idiots then it could be super cool with tier otherwise don't play it imo

[earnest wharf]

do yall all have 4pc now?

[sharp meteor]

only on main warr

[jaunty furnace]

80k+ shield slams

[sharp meteor]

I don't imagine I'll be able to get many off

might try in bgs or 2s though before it gets hotfixed in a couple weeks

[earnest wharf]

i just resubbed last week so i want to try the meme fun gimmicky stuff for a while before things get harder lol. At least they made the catch up much better than in the past

[sharp meteor]

do be 70% less effective in pvp or something

[earnest wharf]

pretty fast to get full honor set max ranked to get ur feet wet in pvp

[wicked bison]

why doesnt the movemen speed gem work in the ring with speed

[nimble jasper]

it does

just doesnt show on default ui

[wicked bison]

does it not just update

oh ok

[sharp meteor]

It does.

[nimble jasper]

you need deja

[sharp meteor]

Mount speed doesn't in ranked.

[fickle forge]

Yeah, DK life, I knew I recognized that name somewhere though, think we've crossed a few times by now

[earnest wharf]

for just gimmicky 1 shot 2s as prot, would yall run with like a ret, boomy, or the hunt DH and just zerg down someone?

[sharp meteor]

Probably nf paladin tbh

just actual 120k hit on somebody owo

but yeah it'd require 4pc

I'll try it in a bit maybe

[earnest wharf]

if u get some vids post it so i can see lol

[mystic barn]

Dh hunt does season 1 damage

reactible ability now

[stray rapids]

Hey guys, new to the discord but had a question. Anyone think SMF is viable in rated pvp?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah. I think that Titan Grip seems better, but SMF is fine/good.

[stray rapids]

I know you lose out on a little bit of HP from the stamina, but damage should be equivalent, right? Gain a little speed too?

[sharp meteor]

I think that damage is lower, and the movement speed doesn't really make up for it as well as general loss of stats.

[stray rapids]

ah, you dont think the 12% dmg boost makes up for the weapon dmg and extra stats?

[sharp meteor]

Nope. I'll be trying it out eventually to see how it compares, though, as they jacked up conquest gains so it'll be easier to fill out gear. Just doesn't really seem like it has any major upsides over the alternative (titan grip), though, except that you can mog 1hs, lol

[stray rapids]

in all honesty, that's why i was hoping to use it. I love spellfire longsword

[nimble jasper]

theres literally a 2h that is also a blue saber

[sharp meteor]

hmm can't decide

[sharp meteor]

is that like the super super dated looking lightsaber thing

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[minor vector]

sword cranks, brown is a nice break from the grey

[nimble jasper]

they’re all super dated

[sharp meteor]

Oh, shoot, I just remembered that there's a brown version of the set. Heck.

[nimble jasper]

that one is annoying to get

[sharp meteor]

I guess I know what I'm working on now.

It is, lol

[mystic barn]

mog sucks also this isn’t #transmog sus

[nimble jasper]

idk why but i lose interest quickly in my mog

if its still obtainable

[nimble jasper]

bfa elite sets

actual abomination

[sharp meteor]

i get burnt on wod/legion elite sets and the necrolord plate is actually so good

[nimble jasper]

bfa f tier expansion purely for its elite sets

and bringing us mugambala

[minor vector]

played legion once and havent changed mogs for 6 years

[nimble jasper]

those shoulders

literally why

[minor vector]

yuge

[nimble jasper]

also disgusting tabard

[sharp meteor]

i love the boots/gloves from that set yer

[nimble jasper]

corrupted gladiator

🤢

[sharp meteor]

ya bfa tabards were a rough go

[minor vector]

wrath set v good wish they would update it

[sharp meteor]

idk how to make current ones work tho

[nimble jasper]

i have notorious one on

only cuz of name

[sharp meteor]

it's like current ones are best if u hide belt

[lucid walrus]

only gripe is upright orc brotherman

[nimble jasper]

psure i yeeted my corrupted tabard cuz that season was an abomination

[minor vector]

bfa ones are washed out and weird, SL ones have weird colorations

[sharp meteor]

idk notorious was kind of scuffed

[mystic barn]

There’s a wod dk set that looked super stupid to me with the big helmet but now I think it looks cool

[nimble jasper]

its a cool name

dumb season

[mystic barn]

Too bad I’ve only played slands

[lucid walrus]

need legion and pre-legion tabard design back expeditiously

[minor vector]

wod s1 is the best warrior set hands down

[nimble jasper]

also

the red icc set for warrior is nice

but so many people

dont have the boots

zzzz

[minor vector]

the red boots from the violet hold got that old wrath model

the legion trash cans are superior

[sharp meteor]

yeah i use the demonic booties

[nimble jasper]

i hate

the demonic booties

[minor vector]

wish they never fixed the demonic belt to not have the leg plates attached though

[nimble jasper]

too fugging wide

[minor vector]

was way better with 3 3d pieces on it

[lucid walrus]

wish the trial of valor belt didn’t get patched to crop the tabard

[nimble jasper]

i mean i mix

demonic shoulders

with blackrock set

and sinful flame on red voror

[mystic barn]

any of you cringers use phial knock back on Druid tranq

[sharp meteor]

I'm not giving up auto-stun or a potency to knock an rdruid out of his meme tranq.

[lucid walrus]

lmfao

[mystic barn]

coward

[sharp meteor]

Maybe if our sole win condition is gibbing druid but haven't had that yet.

and when we do go druid they usually die as is

[mystic barn]

hope you autophial in mindgames..

[sharp meteor]

actually does priest knock

[sharp meteor]

i have, and it's tragic

[mystic barn]

favorite rdruid game was gripping them under the well in Dalaran sewers

Guy tranqs then gets btfod by the water

[nimble jasper]

mindgames shaman NG

shaman dies

mindgames a druid

druid hp go up

[sharp meteor]

nah druid implodes now

similar thing with games on hpriest

[mystic barn]

the monkey paw curled when we complained about druids having 90k fleshcrafts, for now we have 90k chaos bolts

[sharp meteor]

2/20 Rescue Souls from the Maw

[near delta]

I just found out about that. I've had so many druids tranq at like 10%. Would be super useful.

[sharp meteor]

I love mogs

[nimble jasper]

mostly meant early s2

when a druid could frenzy through

double shackle and mg

[mystic barn]

yea was neat

[mystic barn]

might not be a bad idea if you confirm he’s kt from the gate

[near delta]

Or into wws on a z axis map. How far does it boop?

[sharp meteor]

a single boop is pretty underwhelming LMAO

[nimble jasper]

the questionable choice i see

is when people cast games on the dps with limited self healing

instead of the healer

like bro do you understand how mindgames works

[near delta]

A single boop on a 2 minute cd that's also a defensive. V A L U E

[sharp meteor]

2 minute cd huh

god i wish

[near delta]

Lmao yeah

2 minutes would make kyr OP

[nimble jasper]

ngl the best meme playing monk

[sharp meteor]

2 minutes and it resetting in combat

we'd be GOLDEN

[nimble jasper]

was knocking druids on tranq

into a wall

and they’d just bounce for a good 3-4 secs

[near delta]

RoP is the best ability in the game imo

So fun

[nimble jasper]

yeah

till i get charge executed

[mystic barn]

mg can hit like a truck

[nimble jasper]

for 80% of my hp

[near delta]

Just don't get hit

[mystic barn]

But yea I wondered that question for the longest time

[nimble jasper]

it can but im always confused as shit when i get hit by games on woyer lets say

when im at 90%

[mystic barn]

who knows maybe dispel bait

[nimble jasper]

@near delta ring the banner pop should be ok

[mystic barn]

mg dispel bait intro triple shackle s2

[nimble jasper]

type to healer afterwards

“we love shadowlands pvp”

[sharp meteor]

I send my healer pictures of my cat and it seems to help.

[nimble jasper]

surprised shackle didnt make it to s3

the new maledict is janky

[sharp meteor]

Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. Poofy cat seems to make everybody happier.

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor how rough was it grinding out that tint of necro set

Been wanting one of the diff tints

[near delta]

I saw some guy randomly use it on me yesterday

Didn't do much

[sharp meteor]

The black one? I just did the daily events for a few weeks. Very tedious/boring.

[near delta]

Not sure why they designed it the way they did. Really awkward

[nimble jasper]

black one is aight

[sharp meteor]

Kill the geiger guy then do the chest which is jst clickiing 2 runes so all in all it was like maybe 5 minutes a day

[nimble jasper]

the brown is the unity one

takes a hot minute

[sharp meteor]

YEP

[mystic barn]

You just wait for people to find the quests for you

[nimble jasper]

my problem with necro plate

is im a tabard enjoyer

and necro plate chest

[full quiver]

please stop posting my mog

[mystic barn]

please stop posting

[full quiver]

lol

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor yea

Copy that, damn sounds kinda rough

[full quiver]

bruin

u god damn tease

where are those vods

[sage raptor]

Is there a list of what the belf racial can remove?

[rotund needle]

Did anyone try the prot rextroy thing?

[sharp meteor]

Magic buffs.

[sharp meteor]

I might after collecting some souls in the maw.

[rotund needle]

Do you have a macro or stat weights?

[plain wing]

@full quiver it looks like i didnt have live logging or whatever its called turned on

Not showing up in squadov. Sorry to dissapoint 🙁

[sharp meteor]

for prot? I wouldn't invest literally anything into a meme 1-shot setup that'll almost certainly get gutted

I was considering not even bothering trying prot because I need to setup alt warr

[full quiver]

😫

[spice hornet]

I tried it it’s boring

[wicked bison]

thatw

[spice hornet]

Has to crit

[wicked bison]

its alot of no damage then maybe half a bar

[sharp meteor]

u have honor talent thing that make sit like super high chance to crit tho don't u

[spice hornet]

30% more

[mystic barn]

do you run dn on prot

[sharp meteor]

oh is it only 30% ew

[spice hornet]

It’s kinda fun but in solo shuffle you fight other prot s doing it

Abs the everyone knows what’s about to go down

[full quiver]

No dreadnaight on prot

[mystic barn]

I’m not talking about dreadnaufht

[full quiver]

😏

[mystic barn]

wat

[full quiver]

Deez nuts

Got em

[mystic barn]

not funny now answer my question

[full quiver]

Lol I did???

Help me bruin I'm being bullied

[undone pumice]

whats dn

[mystic barn]

deez nuts

grow up scoobz

[full quiver]

Never

[undone pumice]

i hate dreadnaught

[full quiver]

Wat

[undone pumice]

dn

dread

naught

[flat isle]

Excuse you

I feel personally attacked

I love my dreadnaught

[frosty loom]

Doesn't have to just outplay your opponent and if you have trouble do it with nf

[thick reef]

wtf i want tht set so bad

u guys know good way 2 make gold for cool shit like dreadnaught

[raw summit]

Boosting

[sharp meteor]

sell carries

even just like 1400/caps

[thick reef]

ok ty

[sharp meteor]

but like rival or whatever to healers is usually a decent time

[thick reef]

uea

but wait rq

it will drop us to 1400 mmr right or near there

[sharp meteor]

there's also trying to play whatever the latest profession thing is, like i made 2.5m in a week on jc which got 10k to level just selling movement speed haste/vers rings

although usually those are just around patch launches

[thick reef]

yea

so if i play w someone at 1400 i will be near 1400 mmr right or does it stay ur own mmr

[raw summit]

That's a good thing cuz youll be full gear and it's easy stomping

[thick reef]

yea it is

thats cool yea can just play w low rated healers and get them up

[sharp meteor]

You'll meet somewhere in between.

[thick reef]

ok ty

[raw summit]

0 and 1800 or whatever should be fine

[thick reef]

yea for sure ty

just rly want set

need sub haha hope to get one sono

soon

[plain wing]

do yall have a general rule when gearing/buying conq pieces?

Trynna decide between a main piece like legs or going for jewelry etc

[burnt heart]

I personally never buy rings

since theres like 4 rings pretty likely you get one from vault

and Crafted verse ring w/ socket and speed

[raw summit]

I got myself vers haste speed neck

Is good

[burnt heart]

yeah jewelry in general

[plain wing]

ahh gotcha

so im torn between neck, pants, or boots

ty lads

[near delta]

Do you already have tier?

Like 4pc

If not pants and turning it to tier next week is a good option

[full quiver]

Necro fury necro kitty felt good

Kitty 4pc does insane dam

[undone pumice]

@raw summit

why neck

over ring

[hard vector]

what do we play in 3s ? fury or arms , we dont have a real comp tho holy priest SP -_-

[wet scarab]

highlight of the night, playing 2s against an assa/priest that had destroyed us earlier, fury/rdruid, druid dies, managed to solo them after killing the rogue really quickly, thank god for fury self heals

really enjoying running double time warbringer instead of IV and battle trance though, just insane amounts of uptime

[spice hornet]

watching my buddy

hardstuck 2.1k all season as destro

qing double destro now at 2500 mmr

[near delta]

Both are good. Honestly depends on your preference at this point. Arms is generally slower paced and more deliberate while fury is full zugg.

[near delta]

Oh so we're officially in BFA season 4 redux?

[sharp meteor]

I really gotta do the ZM questline on each alt for the 2400 conduit skip 💀 👌

[near delta]

Wait fr?

[sharp meteor]

Oh well just an hour or two

[raw summit]

I have decent rings and cheaper

[simple rock]

wait you can get 278 conduits on alts?

ong?

[raw summit]

On 2400 alts

[dark sparrow]

So that's a no lmao

[raw summit]

You could also just get CE

Or get 3k in m+

🙂

[elder wigeon]

borrowed cr, it'll go away

once all the good players actually get their tier, there's gonna be a ladder shakeup

it's gonna be all assassination destro and MLx but it won't be the trash ones at the very top

[fickle forge]

Melee are so mad because casters are finally viable in this game it’s pathetic. Warlock and mage haven’t been viable all expansion now they have this trinket and everyone wants to cry

[elfin surge]

deez

[sage raptor]

Nutz

[elfin surge]

Where unity?

[vapid ruin]

on rampage

[full quiver]

Leader of the pack heals a lot as fury

[raw summit]

wouldnt shimmer be better though

[full quiver]

Can't imagine hps once I have 4pc and constant reck

[raw summit]

so you can max range your poly

[elfin surge]

@full quiver don't talk to me like we're friends, because we're not, little man.

[full quiver]

Why do you let me slam your bussy at night and then ignore me in public

I love you baby

[jaunty furnace]

There are a lot of people now taking off all their armor during solo shuffle so the matches last a second and they farm thousands of honor within minutes lol

[undone pumice]

😎 👍

[full quiver]

I was gonna spam bgs tonight for honor

Guess I'll queue as tank and do that instead

Lol

[jaunty furnace]

It’s a million times faster, ether you have people that take off their gear or you have prot warriors on both sides with 4pc and one shot

can get through all 6 rounds of solo shuffle in under 5mins for almost 1k honor depending how much you win

[full quiver]

Lol

Damn

Thx for heads up

I hate doing bgs for honor

[dark sparrow]

are q's pretty fast if you q tank(or heal) cause as dps it takes like 6mins

[undone pumice]

prolly

i believe hpal has the fastest q

[grizzled zinc]

in what order should honor gear be bought for a fresh lvl 60?

[grand scaffold]

weapon > everything else

then you do chest, head, and pants

then shoulders, feet, gloves, belt

then the rest of the pieces

trinkets last

[grizzled zinc]

ty bro, does this only imply to warriors or general?

[grand scaffold]

in general

best to get expensive pieces out of the way

so over time it gets easier

[grizzled zinc]

But isnt it waste to buy honor weap if I should go for that for conq as well?

[grand scaffold]

well

you need the gear to get the better gear

you do have a point tho

but tbh you need to get conquest everything else too

and weapon is 1800 conquest which is a bit of a chunk

[grizzled zinc]

true

[elfin surge]

my name is deez

[dark sparrow]

so i have 1 conq weapon and 1 max honor weap as fury, do i now just focus on replacing gear first since most of it is still last season rival or smth

[late thorn]

Hi Guys, i am new to Arms in PvP. What is the best stat after versatility? Some people on the Leaderboard go for crit some for haste? What is better?

[frank knoll]

So can you only craft 1 tier piece a week or can you like, do two next week

[ancient sonnet]

Aside from weapon; this is the opposite of my mentality. I buy the cheap offset pieces first and hope to get the expensive pieces out of the vault. Feel you can gear up faster that way.

[grand scaffold]

this is honor gear tho

no conquest

[ancient sonnet]

ahhhh

then sure

[copper hare]

It charges, so if you don't craft one this week, you can do two next week

At some point apparently there will be more than one charges per week though

[ancient sonnet]

Apparently the CD is reduced by 1 day per week. So this week it resets again next Tuesday. Next week it'll reset on Monday. Following Sunday etc. Until you can just upgrade em all if you have the flux

[full quiver]

anyone know what fastest way from friendly to revered is in ZM

lol

[grand scaffold]

nope

im still at friendly too

🤣

[fickle forge]

Patterns within Patterns, get the thing that gives you bonus rep and then world Qs

Enjoy 4 weeks of farming

[full quiver]

so there's no catch up mechanic yet

[grand scaffold]

nope

[full quiver]

oh fuck that then

[fickle forge]

We heard you like timegates

[ancient sonnet]

I mean 10 mins of WQs a day wasn't hard

[full quiver]

neither is your dads dick doesn't mean i want to do it

[mystic barn]

wat

[full quiver]

😆

[fickle forge]

Hehe eksdee

[elfin surge]

Warrior is literally unplayable in 2s and nobody can change my mind

[grand scaffold]

facts

[elfin surge]

sin rogue is the new arms warrior

better in every way

[grand scaffold]

i had a bit of luck last season

none this season

facts

more dmg

tankier

more utility

more cc

more mobility

[elfin surge]

better stormbolt with kidney

[grand scaffold]

yea

its got blind too which is op

[elfin surge]

disarm

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[elfin surge]

dude????

sin rogue???

who gave rogue disarm can go fuck themself

[grand scaffold]

lmao

i dont think its fair for rogue to have disarm

they already have more cc than every other class

now more cc

🥱

[fickle forge]

Have you tried playing fury?

[full quiver]

imagine taking stormbolt as a warrior lol

[mystic barn]

mud is dum

[full quiver]

mud is dum backwards

[mystic barn]

you are a bright individual

[grand scaffold]

not very much tbh

[fickle forge]

Scooberz is top 102 highest IQs

[scarlet barn]

I feel like mud and ndogo are good for each other

Mud complains

Ndogo says yes

[grand scaffold]

mud spits facts tho

thats the thing

[wispy cedar]

do you like my transmog?

[scarlet barn]

Original

But no way you did that in pvp gear

It is impossible

@full quiver right

[grand scaffold]

👍

i like the weapon a lot

[sharp meteor]

i mean like have u queued into jungle tho

or hunters in 2s

hate it here

[scarlet barn]

But still

Such a nice pair

[full quiver]

true raz

also raz

when the f is it worth it to WW in pvp

for cleaving

lol

[scarlet barn]

I mean you should cleave everytime

[sharp meteor]

also curious about ww usage, i am setting up third warr soon

i imagine it's prior to each rampage at least

[scarlet barn]

You have 2 or more targets

[sharp meteor]

muh globals

[grand scaffold]

or as a filler if needed

[scarlet barn]

For pressure thats the way

If you however aim to kill, you stop cleaving

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[scarlet barn]

So you dont delay your cds

You can also spam ww when trying to reach target

As it has bigger range

[grand scaffold]

smart

[scarlet barn]

Just a small thing, wont make or break your damage

But also helps with generating rage

If nothing else is within range of hitting

[scarlet barn]

If you aim to cleave, it it basically as in pve. Ww 2 globals ww

[sharp meteor]

hmm yeah that's what it seemed like although

eh idk i'll get to try it out in a few days

[full quiver]

yeah but the problem is

you have to keep up sluaghter house 8 stacks too right

which obv you don't in pve

so i feel like it makes it a lot more complicated but maybe i'm over thinking it

[full quiver]

yeah i always spam ww running through pets/ other garbo

[sharp meteor]

yeah so the issue i was running into was it felt preferable to just unga bunga raging blows and rampages into one guy

and ideally have teammate maintain slow but otherwise u have to hamstring/piercing

although i like to hold piercing for the reach

but the whirlwind felt to sometimes throw things off single-target

[full quiver]

yep same issue for me

[scarlet barn]

Prio it in reck window

Outside , according to your judgement

[sharp meteor]

also i haven't queued into a fury warrior who rly pressed ignore pain they just die which i am down with

counterpressure is king etc

[scarlet barn]

Look , it all depends on context

[sharp meteor]

i mean ip is a general press as arms no doubt

[scarlet barn]

If you face double melee that will end in 2 mins

[sharp meteor]

as fury it's like an "oh i am actually dead"

[scarlet barn]

Prob unga bunga

[sharp meteor]

i had a 7 minute game vs a fury who pressed it twice

[full quiver]

i literally only press it if healer says "i have nothing" and i have rage and am like 10% hp

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's what he did

and he's much better than i am so

[full quiver]

or if i'm about to get pre stunned

[sharp meteor]

maybe that is how i'll play it and just focus on dam

[full quiver]

i remember saying last night

"i pre-ignore pained"

lmfao

[sharp meteor]

i play double healer and he had a ret tho so it might be easier for me heh

[full quiver]

that's like legit every game tho

[sharp meteor]

i goddamn wish every game were double melee LMAO

[full quiver]

i meant the 2 min thing

feels like every game lol

we've only queued 2x tho

[sharp meteor]

ehhh

[full quiver]

that's like a 2:30-3 avg right

eh mayben ot actually

there's just not enough people who are rank 1 who have played fury long enough for me to copy their WW usage

[sharp meteor]

yeah i think mud is the only one who has been rly playing it

the other ones i have queued into just went back arms

it's like fury benefits the most from getting to play mega aggro so if you can keep swinging into them they just never recover

[full quiver]

yeah mega aggro certainly fits muds playstyle lol

[sharp meteor]

it's actually so hard to trade into limb+reck+conq

[full quiver]

limb feels so strong

usually trade aegis into it

[sharp meteor]

oh and they played with priest too so pi

and games/boon

[full quiver]

and dark arch lol

[sharp meteor]

so it's like aaaaaaaaa

[hard vector]

anyone know where i can find a weakaura for holy pirest legendary self res X'anshi, Return of Archbishop Benedictus. is there any WA that track that the priest use one

[sharp meteor]

idk but they get a 10 minute debuff if they have it so u can just look for that

90% of them won't because throughput/cdr leggo

[mystic barn]

https://wago.io/p8bt2f1uj

[ancient sonnet]

https://wago.io/H1xet5gaG

[sharp meteor]

oh and the amount of hp they come back with scales with healing done while dead so stop hitting their teammates potentially

[hard vector]

The 😄

[wet scarab]

Yeah if it’s up you basically have to afk

[elfin surge]

im the fury godfather

[fickle forge]

WMP with fury though

[jaunty furnace]

[steep inlet]

Blizo is

Played it and swapped way before ya :D

In s3

Smexxin too

[elfin surge]

😐

[grand scaffold]

MUD ftw

[mystic barn]

no

[elfin surge]

yes

[steep inlet]

I like Mud

But he is not the OG

And he don’t wanna AWC

He should

[scarlet barn]

See it is as i said

Ndogo becomming Mud's zealot

[grand scaffold]

so what

[mystic barn]

ndogo x mud lumberjack cleave when

@elfin surge make it happen

[elfin surge]

@grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

sup

[steep inlet]

Didnt you quit for mage and lock

Dogo

[grand scaffold]

nope

[steep inlet]

😄

[grand scaffold]

i got like 5 toons now

i got sp

lock

mage

hunter

dh

rogue

warr

that was 7

lmao

i still main my warrior

but i dont play it so much as i used to

[sharp meteor]

all those cringe classes when u could have 7 warriors

[grand scaffold]

haha

why 7 warriors tho

[sharp meteor]

because 8 seems like a bit much

[grand scaffold]

haha

[wanton ember]

guys Arms warrior in 2s with a Kyrian Holy Priest

what covenant is the way to go?

[raw summit]

imo necro

kyrian is a bit sus since like half the good 2s classes can get out

[wanton ember]

this may sound like troll to some

but what about venthyr?

Venthyr with Exploiter

[raw summit]

as fury its actually kinda decent

for arms

[full quiver]

i like kyrian better than necro rnow

if your healer sucks you can't peel as well on necro

[raw summit]

This and the fact exe hurts more

kinda killed it

[wanton ember]

but im good to go with kyrian in 2s/3s with enduring blow leggo and misshapen mirror?

i mean 2s is 90% rogue mage and Hunter Holy/resto dudu

[raw summit]

those can all get out of spear

so i personally favour necro

[wanton ember]

i C

[raw summit]

but in 3s spear is fine still

[full quiver]

yeah but a lot of the hunters are doodooo

can do the classic swoops strategy of shackle hunter after they disengage while healer cc'd

99% of time they FD then you get full spear lol

[raw summit]

is meh from kungarna mehhx

like named

cuz if yes i found him in skirmish and thats dumb

[wanton ember]

i just rerolled from Assa rogue back to arms

im crying in pain as assa rogue

i win 10 games in a row and then i face 10 x hunter and cant do sht

[raw summit]

into hunt

be outlaw

and fucking SHRED hunt

[wanton ember]

imagine u need 6 globals to ramp up ur dps

and he just fd

LOL

and then kites a assa which only has 1 shadow step and maybe 1 Min sprint

but guys what are the stats rn on arms do i just stack crit versa all day with 1 movement speed gem % and 1 movement speed per SL Gem + 5 x versa

or do i need 8% haste or WE

[raw summit]

haste or vers is a toss up

[raw summit]

apparently isnt

[sage raptor]

What leggo for fury?

[grand scaffold]

imo deathmaker

but i prefer signet for the avatar procs

so go for personal preference between those two

both are good

[raw summit]

deatmaker funnier

[sage raptor]

Okay thx

[grand scaffold]

happy to help

[green lintel]

I having such a hard time as a warrior to deal with long ranged cc or slows. Typically against warlocks, mages etc. Any advice?

[grand scaffold]

what covenant are you

also what spec are you

[raw summit]

also what healer do you have