pvp

[nimble jasper]

go into low mmr rbgs on rogue and yoink bases with 7s kidney

cuz people at that rating dont play orc

7s kidney has no business in game

but exists still

[fickle forge]

Kidney into sap 😎 👍

[echo scarab]

Folks, how much conquest do we get per week?

As in the cap

[proven sierra]

i think it's 550?

it's around there I believe

[echo scarab]

Thank you

Yeah it's 550!

[proven sierra]

I have a question for my Skyhold brothers, I currently have a 278 weapon from m+ vault, sitting at around 30% vers and the pvp weapon is in my vault, I currently do raid as well and I have tier dropped from the normal raid and in another pvp slot. What would you guys do? Any advice would help and I could provide a screenshot if interested

[proven sierra]

no worries!

[fickle forge]

What are your goals for PvP?

[proven sierra]

not thinking about glad anytime soon, but I am trying to push to at least 1800-2000 at a reasonable rate. i'm sub 1600 atm

[fickle forge]

M+ weapon is your best upgrade here and now then

Espec if you wanna use it in PvE as well

[proven sierra]

oh sorry what I mean is I already am using a 278 weapon

[fickle forge]

PvP tier set then

[proven sierra]

what I have to decide between is two tier pieces and one 2handed pvp weapon

[fickle forge]

Pick the PvP tier and you can then upgrade it to be BiS for PvP and PvE

Better than a normal raid tier piece at least

[proven sierra]

yeah I thought the upgrading part would be great, even if it doesn't have the vers it's still that strong in arena?

i would probably be dropping under 30%

[fickle forge]

Tier piece stats are fixed, so it'll never have vers

[proven sierra]

right

[fickle forge]

Don't mind being 30%, 28% vers or w/e

It'll be fine and you'll be compensated in more strength+stam

[proven sierra]

okay thanks Kargish 🙂

[fickle forge]

Good luck fam

[burnt heart]

Didn’t they mention we’re getting stat rerolling with the creation catalyst tho

Might be able to roll some verse onto the tier pieces

[nimble jasper]

no such thing

[radiant oasis]

GUYS

unhinged works as fury

[fickle forge]

Welcome to 2020 my man

[radiant oasis]

this shit is hot garbage tho

wouldnt recommend

[steep inlet]

We know it since 2 years

[burnt heart]

Nah they mentioned it with creation of set pieces ima try to find the article

Not sure if it ever came to fruition though but for sure was in a blue post

[radiant oasis]

is there a reason honor is capped?

cant it just reset every season and be uncapped?

[near delta]

Is arms running signet a thing? I've seen it a couple times.

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Like, you could, but I think Enduring is just so much better.

[pale minnow]

EB is superior over signet

[sand shadow]

yo @sharp meteor do you get a notification of some sort if someone outbids you on the BMAH?

[sharp meteor]

Ye

[sand shadow]

but I guess you have to be in-game right?

[nimble jasper]

catalyst lets you make tier pieces

but tier comes with predetermined stats

[sand shadow]

It could. But it does appear Blizzard has no intention of doing that

[near delta]

Yeah I figured it was some crackpottery lol

[sharp meteor]

It MIGHT have potential but like

[lucid walrus]

yeah. logged in on that toon

you get your bid back instantly in the mail

[near delta]

I could see some cheese with like kyrian spear goes with extra reck crit. Think that's what the dude was going for.

[sand shadow]

mom raised no pussy

[nimble jasper]

im only missing shoulders

which are most expensive part

[sand shadow]

why are they the most expensive part?

People tend to bid more for them?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[sand shadow]

Rarer?

[nimble jasper]

easily over a mil

cuz you can technically make a mog with just the shoulders

[sand shadow]

or the starting price is different across the pieces?

[raw summit]

Ye

It's the most popular piece of the entire set

[sand shadow]

I see

[raw summit]

Most popular t3 item as a whole

[nimble jasper]

you can easily use the shoulders+t8 ulduar lookalike of dk

[sand shadow]

yep they're up to 750K

the shoulders, on the one EU backwater realm they're up on atm

jeez

[raw summit]

That's not too high

[nimble jasper]

yeah 750k is considered “cheap” for shoulders

[sand shadow]

hope was that these have been on the BMAH, t3 pieces i mean, for so long

most people who wanted them got em

but I guess there are still plenty of people wanting it

[tacit saddle]

Got my shoulders for 1.7m on a low pop server :/

[nimble jasper]

dreadnaught is the most expensive set

then prob frostfire

or plagueheart

[raw summit]

I wanna get pala t3

[sand shadow]

@tacit saddle they're on an incredibly backwater server

a low pop German RP realm

KEKW

[nimble jasper]

my friend got pala t3 in wod

for like sub 30k a piece

[raw summit]

Rat

[nimble jasper]

giga backwater realm

no realm first archimonde

till prepatch

i got druid t3 on average 10-30k a piece in wod

im 90% sure the emergence of dhs in legion

spiked bonescythe popularity

[full quiver]

My buddy has full t3 and ashbringer from farming it in tbc

[raw summit]

Guy i knew had t3 druid natty

Like just played the game

[full quiver]

Been trying to get him to link account so i can get the mog

[nimble jasper]

icebane set is actually even rarer

than t3

[full quiver]

I did nax in vanilla on lock and priest

[sharp meteor]

I got druid, shaman and hunter tier for all like 10k a piece

[full quiver]

When I was like 13 lol

[nimble jasper]

oh

hunter t3 goes for nothing

i swear

[full quiver]

Warlock and war have best t3 imo

Love the hazmat look on warlock lol

[raw summit]

War for sure

[nimble jasper]

i see hunter pieces often at 10k

on short

in sl

rogue t3 was cheap in wod

[sand shadow]

Hunter is pretty pog as well

idk, OG tier sets just built different

[nimble jasper]

i got t3 shaman shoulders for 10k

in legion

XD

[sand shadow]

I like Rogue as well

[nimble jasper]

most expensive piece of rogue for me was helm

for 100k

[sharp meteor]

Rogue chest is too low res, but thankfully klaxxi tabard fixes that.

[nimble jasper]

ehh

i prefer defilers tabard

[full quiver]

wish i could get mogs from my classic rogue

[nimble jasper]

with bonescythe

[full quiver]

to retail

[sand shadow]

250k bid

[nimble jasper]

or void tabard which i keep missing

[sand shadow]

pls no outbid

[nimble jasper]

imo you dont bid

[full quiver]

gonna go bid 450 rnow

[nimble jasper]

till short

[sand shadow]

It is Short

for 20 mins now

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah

[sharp meteor]

Oh, right, EU.

[nimble jasper]

in wod i did some super tryhard shit

[sharp meteor]

I had a timer.

[nimble jasper]

where i waited till legit last 5mins

to drop a bid

[sand shadow]

I tried a Psyche them out strat

[sharp meteor]

I'd afk in stealth until people left or went afk.

[sand shadow]

was 10k last night, today i woke up, it was 100k

[nimble jasper]

thing is people can bid

from daz

[sand shadow]

30mins ago it went to 105k

[nimble jasper]

rogue order hall

[sharp meteor]

I also told some people I'd pay them 50k if they stopped bidding or w/e.

[nimble jasper]

or the radio item

[sand shadow]

I strong armed 150k

outbid at 157k

bid 200k

[nimble jasper]

and yes for some reason

[sand shadow]

211k or sth

250k from me

[nimble jasper]

the rogue order hall in legion

has a bmah npc

[sand shadow]

LETS

FUCKING

GO B

BOIS

[nimble jasper]

grats

[sand shadow]

Psyching them out successful

[nimble jasper]

but yeah people pay most for shoulders since you can use

[sand shadow]

cuz I have just 530k gold total rofl

[nimble jasper]

ulduar dk set

for the others

psure revo does that

[sand shadow]

I'm looking at Wrists and Belt tho

Wrists I will skip

can't be seen anyway right

[tacit saddle]

grats!

[sand shadow]

and Belt there is a blue belt that is near identical

[raw summit]

Offset hands legit better

[sand shadow]

there are offset hands? what are those

[nimble jasper]

hes prob referring to the dk set ones

[sand shadow]

I only want the look tbh, dont really care if it says "Transmogrified to Dreadnaught"

[nimble jasper]

theres a belt from sethekk halls that looks very similar

[sand shadow]

so if identical hands exist

I'd yoink those instead

save myself the hassle

yes that one @nimble jasper

[nimble jasper]

mhmm

hands dont

closest you can get is the dk ulduar gloves

[sand shadow]

whats the dk ulduar set called

guess I can find out mysefl actually

Thassarian's Plate?

[nimble jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=499/conquerors-darkruned-plate-25-recolor

[sand shadow]

I don't get why is it that I can't preview Dreadnaught ingame?

[nimble jasper]

wont show

[sand shadow]

on my own character, so I can play around w/ gloves and belts etc??

[nimble jasper]

unless you have

[sand shadow]

pretty dumb

[nimble jasper]

like tcg tabards

dreadnaught only shows in collections

once you have entire set

and gives an fos

[sand shadow]

I have this

think I remember its rare

but mb im wrong

[nimble jasper]

yeah all the tcg tabards are rare now

besides flame

[sand shadow]

is this a TCG one?

[nimble jasper]

yes

[sand shadow]

how did I get it tho o_O

[nimble jasper]

bmah

[sand shadow]

I've never touched TCG cards etc?

This is my first time interacting with the BMAH

[nimble jasper]

idk then

[sand shadow]

weird

BMAH came out in MoP right?

[nimble jasper]

those tabards used to be acquired through tcg points system

yep

[sand shadow]

I barely played MoP, like a month max, and WoD I didn't even level to max

[nimble jasper]

now that points system is gone

so uhh

no way to get besides bmah really

[sand shadow]

really odd

[nimble jasper]

apparently someone told me

[sand shadow]

isnt this also rare?

[nimble jasper]

it was actually piss cheap to get the points for the tabards

back in the day

[sand shadow]

I think it came from TBC Launch event

[nimble jasper]

china olympics

event

[sand shadow]

I remember I had one from early TBC that had an on use effect

but it doesn't show that I've ever had it now

[nimble jasper]

tabard of frost is prob one of the more expensive tcg tabards

besides void and brilliance

[sand shadow]

yeah this

I distinctly remember I had this

[nimble jasper]

mhmm

tbc event

trill wears it iirc

[sand shadow]

ooh i still have it

it just looks different now

but even if I xmog it I can't use the effect I guess

[nimble jasper]

theres other rare stuff

[sand shadow]

thats kinda lame

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I think that I had to pay 600k for mine.

[nimble jasper]

like the wotlk prepatch event set

[sharp meteor]

I've got all of them except the light yellow, I think.

[nimble jasper]

oh thats one of the few i own

[sharp meteor]

I got it on my frost mage, too. It seemed appropriate.

[nimble jasper]

oh

wear t3 now

[sharp meteor]

Looks dorky on panda.

[raw summit]

Isnt void and flame expensive too

[sand shadow]

question is, what 2hander(s) go well w/ T3

because I might as well start farming it early

[burnt heart]

Armageddon obviously

[sand shadow]

wasnt Might of Menethil Pog?

the super slow attack speed from Naxx Vanilla

[burnt heart]

Smourne ain’t bad

[sand shadow]

I dislike Smourne

[burnt heart]

Might was nice too

[sand shadow]

It's average looking

[burnt heart]

But you can’t get classic nax weps

[sand shadow]

that was about to be my next question

no recolor from Wotlk naxx?

[burnt heart]

There’s Demise

From new nax

Big ass blue mace

Slight recolor

Blue jaithys prob decent

[sand shadow]

Wep off Jailer could've been nice

but color is off

oh yeah Demise

it looks the same?

[burnt heart]

I think it’s the same ya

[sand shadow]

ye its identical

[burnt heart]

Rip corrupted ashbringer 😦

[sand shadow]

I mean RIP my Dreadnaught from Vanilla

they wont give it back

tho I didn't have very many pieces

I had like 4iirc

[burnt heart]

I saw a warrior with full t3 and corrupted ashbringer on the other day in SW

[sand shadow]

pretty cool yea

I didn't even kill 4Horsemen in Vanilla tho

[burnt heart]

Not tmogged either

Just chillin on horse with the set on

[sand shadow]

I think the biggest thing i'm annoyed blizzard won't give back is

[lucid walrus]

demise looks nice with new enchant

[sand shadow]

that toy from Vanilla that transformed you into a Furbolg

everything else I can live with

I loved that thing

[burnt heart]

The medicine pouch?

[lucid walrus]

i only ever feel class envy when i see the CM set i’m ngl

[burnt heart]

Or the vendor thing

[sand shadow]

idk what it was called

the icon was a blue wand

[burnt heart]

Ya

[sand shadow]

with snowy "sparks"

[burnt heart]

I want the old weapon enchants :/

The new ones are so lackluster compared to like demonic tyranny

[burnt heart]

And other things like that

Yeah that one

[lucid walrus]

wonder if we’ll get “eternal [x]” for an enchant on season split

cosmic season one is actually kinda neat

[burnt heart]

I liked sinful flame

Last seasons only looks good on certain weps

But I really like the old ones Bc they’re so obnoxiously vibrant

You can see that shit across the map in bgs lol

[lucid walrus]

sinful is nice. the fact tyranny had to have its effect toned down makes it a classic

gpu check anytime someone had it on

[radiant oasis]

is there an addon that removes nameplates from the zoo warlock spawns?

[sharp meteor]

I use threatplates then set custom plates to hide them, yeah.

No imps, no dreadstalkers, and you can make stuff like Psyfiend bigger and easier to see

[radiant oasis]

cheers

should i be killing imps against warlocks?

i honestly have no clue how to avoid these 40k deathbolts

[burnt heart]

Kick decimating bolt

And they stack up charges I think it’s a proc or some shit

[radiant oasis]

they're instant cast

[sharp meteor]

Deci stacks last forever, lel

It's siphon + dogs that usually telegraph the setup

then the first 2 bolts are the scariest

[burnt heart]

Idk what any demo spells do

I just run when I see big demon guy

And don’t stand on the fel lord

[sand shadow]

No, nothing you can do about pets

Kicking Decimating is only good if you have a particular reason to

He will get it next cast anyway

so unless you have a reason to delay, it doesn't really make much of a difference

for example you saw him power siphon, pop CDs etc

your #1 prio is kicking hand of gul'dan

gl w/ that w/ everyone running echoing tho

god, demos are miserable to fight

[tough compass]

Just reflect the second demo bolt

and hes dead

[thick reef]

he im trying to build my arms harder. anyone know good discord / website i can ask about sets and weights?

or can i ask here 😛

[sand shadow]

ok, so first step is to watch all Joefernandes clips

especially the ones from Legion

@thick reef

you can find those on YouTube

[thick reef]

k i shall

[sand shadow]

specifically the 2v2 stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpnoLXuj78

start here

im obviously just kidding, ask away

[nimble jasper]

the bmah andy mog

is using arcanite ripper

with dreadnaught

[raw summit]

tbh theres better weps

[nimble jasper]

@raw summit caliboar with earthwarder

looks great with plebnaught

and yellow tcg

[raw summit]

im using destiny earthwarder rn

almost done with scrier rep too

i love my destiny

ill get boar too though

[nimble jasper]

i need to do aldor tabard sometime

[raw summit]

its honestly fine

[wet scarab]

man necro hpals are fun to play with

was doing 2s with one and I go to kill the shaman and notice while I'm getting kited that the enemy warrior had already used enraged regen before I even touched him

vanquisher's hammer crits slap

[raw summit]

that spell hits so hard

its obscene

[undone pumice]

can we delete every covenant ability

[raw summit]

no

then i wouldnt have spear

[undone pumice]

everyone just

walks out of it anyway

kekw

[raw summit]

trueing

[wet scarab]

make banner baseline kthx

[undone pumice]

which one

[wet scarab]

necro banner

[undone pumice]

true

[nimble jasper]

talk about hpal hammers

but have you seen boon of the ascended

[wet scarab]

heart palpitations every time I get the alert

[lucid walrus]

man i wish i had destiny

wait no i do. i'm thinking of x'cal

[nimble jasper]

my priest

“man why does everyone kick boon of all things”

[sharp meteor]

play with my hpriest and it's like "omg why do they keep stopping games"

like IDK

[nimble jasper]

i think hes

one piece off 4set

so boutta go

[lucid walrus]

lord for give him, for he knows not what he does

[nimble jasper]

lay on hands

some mfs

soon

@sharp meteor sl makes great memes

“dont stop this im fine”

“jk i got silenced from meld guess im not fine”

[sharp meteor]

"i won't use, you're fine"

"i am not fine"

"you're fine"

"oh you weren't fine"

[wet scarab]

lol man hpriest is so tilting to play against when they aren't killing you with boon

like so many games where you're one execute away

lay on hands

OK FINE ALMOST GOT HIM AGAIN

lay on hands

FUCK

lay on hands

[sharp meteor]

it's like you sharpen as they come out of the stun and they still top themselves like oh okay

[wet scarab]

I played a game where I was almost killing this dk about 5 times

in 1 min

and he got serenity 6 times

[near delta]

How are hpriest one of the tankiest specs in the game? Lol

[nimble jasper]

btw

4p sepsis is one of the most broken things vs rshams esp

its either they trade 70% of their kit at once

or die

[sharp meteor]

yeah it's like dude trinket aegis wall

nah i fine

wait im not fine

why die

[nimble jasper]

hpriest tho

can actually live with just gs fade

[near delta]

I played with an unholy dk with 4 pc over the weekend and his damage was not okay

[nimble jasper]

and not proc gs

its so stupid

altho unironically assa into hpriest surv is so bad

psure you have better matchup playing sub or outlaw into that

fuck hunters tho

the funniest is q’ing into surv rdruid and you think its gonna be awful matchup then the druid feeds and dies within the first min @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

[nimble jasper]

i played a game of sub priest and christ

sv hunter tries to greed everything but a petsac at 30%

and dies through

to kyrian badge pop

[near delta]

I played the most depressing game vs rdruid/surv

They just double dr cloned me then trapped, then rake stun, then steep trap, roots all on cd.

I checked after and I was legit ccd for 70% of the game.

[nimble jasper]

I did a game on those chars

we blinded the druid out of form into double nade

man decides to sit

[sage raptor]

I feel like when I play prot warr it's the only time I feel like DH is a free win.

[near delta]

Lol

I wish aegis could still be used while stunned but it only stopped cosmic damage

Double or triple bomb with cc and no cooldowns is toxic as hell

[elder wigeon]

Nah If aeghis was only good for that melee would be unplayable

[near delta]

Yeah

[sharp meteor]

Aegis is super good. So good that I think they might nerf it, lol

It goes against the whole "people gotta die" thing.

Might lose 20%+ of the absorb

[near delta]

Not sure how we live into caster cleaves without it?

Unless that's the idea lol

[sharp meteor]

We don't lmao

I think Warr in most cases just takes too much damage to ever really win those

actually eh, not sure, need to play more

[ionic gazelle]

Any thoughts about 5% ignore pain buff?

[undone pumice]

its a nerf

[wispy dock]

Should I use ignore pain on CD as fury like how you pretty much do as arms?

The 60 rage feels bad lol

[sharp meteor]

No, that murders your ability to rampage.

[raw summit]

ideally you dont need to use it

[sharp meteor]

I'm not sure that you understand the change.

[wispy dock]

Ok cool ty

[wet scarab]

bis macro is not bis in fury

sadge

[undone pumice]

bis macro for fury would be on rb or bt

kekw

[raw summit]

/castsequence
/cast raging blow
/cast raging blow

bis macro for fury

[elder wigeon]

pretty much all you do as fury

[wet scarab]

my bis macro is actually intervene IP kekw

[elder wigeon]

if they wanted to buff ignore pain, they'd reduce the damage it mitigates, you'd actually be able to build it up more, buffing the mitigation will mean the shield will get popped nearly instantly and you won't be able to build it up anymore

I'll run brutal vitality to test to see if you still get more value out of it than condensed anima sphere tomorrow but my guess is that they're about equal now

[wet scarab]

the sophistication with which they nerfed ignore pain makes me think they are paying no attention to any other classes besides warrior

[sharp meteor]

spec doing poorly

turn number up

[elder wigeon]

kekw

[sharp meteor]

even if not the right number

zz

[lucid walrus]

crazy-ass defensives and great burst healing

[elder wigeon]

definitely not the right number

[wet scarab]

or they don't understand how the ability interacts with the conduit and they think they buffed it

which is scarier

like realising the pilot is himself insane

[lucid walrus]

where's that two button meme with ascend and gfade when you need it

[undone pumice]

this literally reminds me of mordhau devs balancing

ook ook

input numba

even if wrong direcrion

ook ook

[lucid walrus]

crush has to fuel his coke addiction somehow

[undone pumice]

crush got fired btw

way too late

[lucid walrus]

oh sick

really is

[undone pumice]

crush fucked up the game 3 years ago

[nimble jasper]

the fact hpriest can live sin rogue sepsis burst

[undone pumice]

reason i deadass have more hours in mord than it has players

[nimble jasper]

with just gs and fade

no trinket

is so stupid

[wet scarab]

like it's such a subtle change to how warrior defensive work, which suggests they're fine tuning because everything else is fine, and how on earth are priests flying under the radar

[nimble jasper]

rsham has to trade multiple cds

to live it

[wet scarab]

like are they waiting for all of them to hit elite and glad

like it's RWF or somehting

let them all get glad first then nerf it

[lucid walrus]

honestly i think there's just no knowledge of how the class works to that end

[wet scarab]

god I hope that's not the case but I 100% think that's the most likely scenario

[undone pumice]

imagine if we got vanilla balancing team back

[nimble jasper]

you guys are forgetting

[lucid walrus]

IP eating 5% more damage sucks for conduit value but it helps dealing with frontloaded damage. we press it on cd anyway and it sure as hell wasn't lasting the full 12 seconds

[undone pumice]

warrioes number one once again to never be dethroned for an entire expansion

[sharp meteor]

u think that they think too much

[nimble jasper]

ineffable truth hpal

existed entire bfa s4

[sharp meteor]

spec too good they nerf numbers a bit

too bad they buff numbers a bit

[nimble jasper]

and are surprised hpriest exists atm

as is

or

sinister season rdru

[undone pumice]

no i thought we were past that

(we will never be)

[nimble jasper]

sl s1 hpal

etc

i can go on

[lucid walrus]

even now we're seeing hpals with really solid wings uptime. ineff bubble cd was so egregious lmao

[undone pumice]

sl s1 venth arms

[wet scarab]

lol my necro hpal nearly soloed a fury warrior today and forced defensive cd

[undone pumice]

kyr rogue s1

[wet scarab]

while I was on the other side of the map

[nimble jasper]

kyr rogue s1 is only a valid complaint

first week

kyrian rogue didnt come back until s2

[elder wigeon]

what's funny is that I don't even really feel like I can intervene people that're getting swapped too or if there's CD's without parry intervening and if I do that I just die with no parry next go LMAO

[nimble jasper]

with echoing clarity

s1 rogue was kyr for a week

kyr got gutted out of existence

[undone pumice]

first week of s1 was wild

[nimble jasper]

then nf

[pale minnow]

Same dude, i dare to intervene onl if i enreg or parry

[elder wigeon]

i really wish intervene would get nerfed again to like 1 second so I can make use out of safeguard

[undone pumice]

i loved to get echoing reprimanded out of existance

[nimble jasper]

then 9.0.5 drops and everyone goes venthyr

idk rn you can get evis hit for 30k

on squishier classes

[elder wigeon]

bro I get hit for 30k evis'

[undone pumice]

i get bitten for 50k and eviscerated for 32k

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, had a warrior intervene his healer the other day and just die instantly

[pale minnow]

[nimble jasper]

you play finality with nightstalker deeper stratagem

[elder wigeon]

bro I intervened my healer during wings banner avatar, and I shit you not, I legit died before intervene was over

[nimble jasper]

and yet some rando challenger rogues will play subterfuge mfd

and complain their damage is low

[sharp meteor]

Oh yeah I remember in like s1 where I vened and like

[elder wigeon]

I had a lapse in judgement and thought it was season 1 warrior

[sharp meteor]

actually died from 100% in under 0.5 seconds

ypeypepe

ret just went bonk

blond male tauren

giving me the business

[nimble jasper]

ret paladin is so stupid

do i die to divine toll slot machine

gg go next

[undone pumice]

i intervend a ret today and died in .2s to a rogue+ret removing me

[elder wigeon]

my favorite thing is vesper totem right now

[undone pumice]

oooh vesper totem

[elder wigeon]

120k+ dmg in 2 seconds no prob

[undone pumice]

spicy 1 shot

[pale minnow]

Just play the absorb trinket

Works really fine vs wings

[elder wigeon]

rets rip that trinket off in 2 seconds if they have some fat fuckin burst

same with demo locks, alone

[undone pumice]

i saw a guy get vesper totemed for 100k today

[pale minnow]

Idk never had an issue actually

[sharp meteor]

didn't exist in s1 buddy

[sharp meteor]

ya there's some team playing double vesper

cringe season

[elder wigeon]

I almost died to a demo lock solo when I aegised at 75%, two bolts took me to 15%

[nimble jasper]

metaphors unironically said

[undone pumice]

i played a solo shuffle today with all the other dd being ele sham

[nimble jasper]

lock isnt playable

without resolve

what the cringe

[undone pumice]

RARE sight

[wet scarab]

half the time I end up killing us both because of cleave

[elder wigeon]

lock is playable, but that trinket really puts them over the top tbh

[pale minnow]

Is simple charge or warbringer activating thr shot trinket?

[nimble jasper]

maybe if he stops having an episode every time he loses

and maldiva stops trinketing like a mongo only to die next dr

to an rmp

[elder wigeon]

not to mention locks are very overtuned right now if they're able to do what they want

the absurd thing is demo lock, that spec is viable without the trinket, they don't even cast

[nimble jasper]

its so funny watching metaphors

get attacked by rmp

hes like freaking out

[elder wigeon]

metaphors overreacts every single game

overspends, freaks out

[sharp meteor]

poor guy seems like a nervous wreck

[undone pumice]

who

[sharp meteor]

meta

[undone pumice]

is metaphors

[sharp meteor]

YOU GOTTA

DIG DEEP

[undone pumice]

i only know metamorphosis

is he like bruin

[elder wigeon]

nah

[undone pumice]

https://youtu.be/iaYryETHM4w

is this it

[warped warren]

wrath

copium

actually

cata

mindspike

[wary iron]

where should i craft unity for pvp?

[raw summit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-ive-gone-completely-mental-i-am-beyond-the-point-of-no-return-gif-23191724

[near delta]

That little totem is relatively thicccc too.

[wheat jay]

Too much wow?

[raw summit]

too many hey guise where unity

i cant blaim the guy

but also this yea

[wheat jay]

Kek

[sharp meteor]

How much is too much

[wheat jay]

When you can't fall asleep cuz you see wow when you close your eyes

[raw summit]

Then i havent played too much

I have this sick idea of getting all the reps in the book done

Gonna take me a whole while

[spice hornet]

ferals who have to play convoke in 2s to get rating

lmao

[sand shadow]

can end of dungeon M+ runs drop tiered pieces?

[graceful quarry]

no

[sand shadow]

ty

[spice hornet]

anyone else feel like survival should have to get into melee range more frequently to do dam

[lucid walrus]

annoyingly pseudo-melee spec yeah

esp considering a huge chunk of their damage is now bombs and flayed with razor frags

[sharp meteor]

It's all bomb and kill shot, yeah.

Honestly just a little tap to the Surv tier bonus and then Flayed Shot (and the kill shot procs) would probably be fine. Maybe pouch, too.

Oh, and craven shouldn't give 15s cdr. Maybe 5-10.

[undone pumice]

craven shouldn't

[elder wigeon]

craven should make it a 20 second CD honestly

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, at the very least knock a bit of the cooldown reduction off in PvP.

[wheat jay]

Wouldn't rly change much lol

Its good for removal of shit, not neccessarily for cd reduction

Also id love for survi to be more melee than it is now

Except itd die instantly xD

[thick reef]

Never really PVP'd properly, but want to get into arenas so excuse my dum dum question but is arena1/2/3 SB/Kick really that much better than focus kick/SB/etc ?

[undone pumice]

its real good

[spice hornet]

whatever works for you best, a123 is a lil bit better if you can use it perfectly

[undone pumice]

u donr need many as warr

just stormbolta123, kick123, and intervenep12

[sharp meteor]

bolt 123 ideally but bolt and boltfocus are fine

123 requires bit more practice and if you don't queue a ton it can be slow and bad

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, but them being able to rip everything off every 20 or 25s is less oppressive than every 15s

[thick reef]

Thanks!

[sharp meteor]

So the idea with keybinding is to be as efficient/quick with stuff as possible so whatever lets you hit the ability you need to hit on the right target is fine

[undone pumice]

some ppl like diff butons some ppl like mods

like i have ctrl123 bolt123 for example, i think savix has nomodfier, shift modifier ctrl modifier

[wheat jay]

Well, yes

Still wouldn't change much xD

Barely anything really, its most often saved to remove certain things and not spammed off cd anyway

[thick reef]

Currently I have like 36 keybinds, could probably squeeze in like 10 more tops but these are the most comfy for me to hit idk if thats enough tho 😄

i wanna get on the MW/MD hypetrain but Ive been conditioned to use that for zoom in/out for years. if i could, i'd prolly be able to add like 8 from that alone

[undone pumice]

should be enough warr doesnt have a lot of buttons to press

[thick reef]

ye, well i need to re-do my binds. some of them feel bad to press rn

[undone pumice]

i think having more tthan 40ish is more important for hybrids or big button number specs like ferals or rets or shams

[thick reef]

ye ig. druid usually strikes me as a class that needs so many binds

[undone pumice]

u just need ur normal binds - some useless ones like heroic throw, trinkets, ur mount if u want, and ur focus/123 binds

[thick reef]

yeah i need to think about what im gonna use for 123 ones

[undone pumice]

i like having them in a row

or in the same location

[thick reef]

what do u use?

[undone pumice]

intervene shift x + shift c
bolt ctrl123
kick, mousewheel, mw up, mw down

[thick reef]

what do you use for zoom in/out. i cant untrain my brain to not use it for zoom xd

[undone pumice]

arrow keys left /right

[thick reef]

idk I do a lot of M+ too and often times i need to adjust zoom quickly might not be worth it for me

[undone pumice]

just use binds u like

ive been using these for years

[thick reef]

ye ye for sure, just wondered what you used

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

Ah, yes. Another day without PvP tuning.

If we don't get any tonight then it might actually be an entire week.

[elder wigeon]

pvp tuning for what lmao games going how they want

[sharp meteor]

That's right, people are dying.

[undone pumice]

at the same time they aint tho

[full quiver]

Non warlocks dying

[undone pumice]

thats also fake

[lucid walrus]

people die*

*if you have tier

[undone pumice]

only people tho

[sharp meteor]

Glad last season was like top 5-6% and barely anybody got it because dead ladder 💀 No changes to how gearing and whatnot works until 10.0

[undone pumice]

druids and subhuman garbage rogues are exempt

as well as mages and hpriests

theyre submonkey

i am very much seething

[wet scarab]

Where do warlocks figure in your hierarchy

And DHs

[undone pumice]

dhs are the youngest child

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor

[undone pumice]

and warlocks are one of the older kids making bank at their highly illegal job

[nimble jasper]

the memes

keep coming

[sharp meteor]

wat did u do to him

[nimble jasper]

friend played

guardian arms 3s

with 4set bear

[sharp meteor]

o legendary

🐻

[sharp meteor]

war crimes

owo -swipes u-

[lucid walrus]

how much damage does it even do

i imagine it happens during incarn or something so it's literally unstoppable

oh i guess u just walk at people then

[nimble jasper]

walk and spam thrash

yes

[lucid walrus]

fucked

[nimble jasper]

bears do what essentially dh players do

pretend its m+ and hold w at your team

[full quiver]

Lmfao

[warm quiver]

I’ve faced a bear tank wearing it. It’s extremely nasty

[plain wing]

how is resto druid/arms nowadays

[full quiver]

Guardian is so hard to kill too

[plain wing]

resto druid or sham i guess is my questiono

[undone pumice]

hpriest

[plain wing]

dont have that option atm

[undone pumice]

real brui

n

unbanned bruin?

bruin unchained?

[plain wing]

im freeeee

for how long idk

im trynna reform

and get better

but yea rdruid or sham?

[undone pumice]

idk prob sham

elemental is good

[sharp meteor]

rdruid rsham or hpriest

probs rdruid or hpriest tbh

[plain wing]

I only have 1 vault slot for tomorrow 😦

[dusty saddle]

hey guys, whats the easiest way to display arena123 on nameplates?

[plain wing]

getting banned for 20 days is cucking me..... behind on double leggo, vaults and gear etc

[dusty saddle]

(as in whether the person is arena 1 2 or 3, maybe a number that you can display on the nameplate etc.)

it has it on sarena but would be nice on the plates

[lucid walrus]

swear i've seen a streamer with it before

[undone pumice]

i think savix has a macro for tgat

[dusty saddle]

ye ive seen some of the guys in here have it but was a while ago

[undone pumice]

https://youtu.be/Rsh8qDH7v9E

bottom of description

[dusty saddle]

awesome ty

[plain wing]

hjow many slots do most of you unlock on the vault

a week

I should be trying to fill it after being gone for 3 vaults

here I am with a big ole 1 tho

[sharp meteor]

Always at least 2, and then 3 on main chars.

Just try to do a shitty yolo bg some time during the week, a daily win in there is like 1000-1150 honor

do that twice and that's basically two vault slots

[iron wasp]

does arms feel weak in comparison to fury rn?

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[obsidian creek]

this is my debut in this channel

[nimble jasper]

2-3 on alts

[obsidian creek]

does fury own with 4set rn

[nimble jasper]

7-9 on main

[plain wing]

shittt

im throwing

ive literally only had 1 vault

and i had 1 slot

[obsidian creek]

wtf

[plain wing]

and its gonna be the same story tomorrow

[obsidian creek]

inting

[undone pumice]

he got banned

[plain wing]

😦

[obsidian creek]

[plain wing]

i hope im lucky tomrrow

and atleast just get a piece i can use (not a leggo slot)

having 7-9 slots would be insaeneee

dang

[nimble jasper]

yeah then they all suck

[elder wigeon]

I have several on all 3 of my warriors, still no tier though 🤡

[undone pumice]

i have 1 tier piece so far

3or4 slots each week

[plain wing]

am i super far behind on clibming rating and missing vaults for 2+ weeks?

worried about having to play "Catch up"

[undone pumice]

u can just wait till catchup and meme till then

or do smth else

u missed a lot of rep from dailies so

its gonna be a grind

u should be able to get revered by the time the caralyst comes out

[nimble jasper]

not at the sub 1800 bracket you’re gonna be the early half of the season

[obsidian creek]

guys i have lil question

[nimble jasper]

and no if you only squeaked 2.1 at the end of s2

dont expect to get close to 2100 this early in the seas

[obsidian creek]

is it easier to get glad now or at end of season

im not a huge pvp enjoyer so i dont know about that shit

[undone pumice]

near end of season but not quite end of season

[obsidian creek]

ait

great actually

ig ill just start pushing when we get ce

[mortal wyvern]

how long till reset?!

[obsidian creek]

na or eu?

[mortal wyvern]

30mins left on eu I guess

[obsidian creek]

eu is like in 28 hours

[mortal wyvern]

ohh today is monday

im too high

9.33pm here still

[obsidian creek]

[mortal wyvern]

lol

I need 2set 😦

[nimble jasper]

@obsidian creek seasons generally get inflated as they go on

[mortal wyvern]

arms 4set 😮

[nimble jasper]

only exception was sinful season cuz blizz deflated mmr

[obsidian creek]

fairs

[nimble jasper]

i ran into so many rdruids at 2.4 in s2

that play like they belong at 1600

[obsidian creek]

just trynna get a glad mount tbh

[nimble jasper]

above 2.1 rn you'd prob q into teams

with at least 5

[obsidian creek]

[plain wing]

@nimble jasper to be fair i only started doing arena in like middle of january with the goal of 2100

i just want to get 1800 fairly quickly, however, idk if thats gonna be super hard cuz im already pretty far behind gear wise

by missing essentially 3 weeks

[nimble jasper]

not really

[plain wing]

i shoulda got more than one vault slot this week

ive just had queue anxiety so ive been putting it off hahaha

[nimble jasper]

im almost 18 on my alt monk thats in basically full s2 gear

besides weps

O.o

[plain wing]

but will that get harder next week and as days go by? Cuz people in lower brackets will have more gear etc?

Like i feel like being in full duelist gear from last season is a slight advantage still in lower brackets

but worried thatll change soon

man getting geared for pve and shit if i ever wanna do that, will be like having to gear a fresh toon. This vault is cucking me. I guess I shoulda try to do some keys next week

[nimble jasper]

no

[spice hornet]

i need another bruin meltdown

wonder if the enemy team gets happy in high rated 2s when they see the enemy comp is arms/healer

got to alomst 2400 in 2s today and fought like one warrior anbdit was a joke most chill game ever. everyyhing else was surv/rdruid or hpriest and this cringe ass convoke feral

[lucid walrus]

bear tier nerfed

mashallah

[sharp meteor]

rly

[spice hornet]

wasnt it only pve nerfed lol

it just does reduce dmg beyond 5 targets

unless there was an additional fix related to the dmg in pve?

pvp*

[lucid walrus]

oh wait yeah LOL

that's hilarious

[main silo]

Been playing arms for a long time now, thinking about changing things up.. Gonna play with hpriest & lock. Was thinking about fury, how should i choose between necrolord & kyrian? When im checking top players its like 50-50. Or maybe arms fits that comp better ? Any thoughts?

[spice hornet]

most furrys ive seen are NL

[sharp meteor]

owo

[spice hornet]

i think arms and fury are roughly the same for hpriest lock tbh

fury might even be betteer because if your lock is drain life UA man they are gonna train you down as arms and it hurts

[main silo]

he is thinking about demonology or destruction, he got 4 set pieces.. but not sure what is the best

[vocal frigate]

Any good toys or WPVP items that can cuck a rogue out of trying to flee?

[lucid walrus]

isn't demo deleting people with 4-set rn

[vocal frigate]

Yuh

I'm only 2p and I'm slapping dudes for 38-42K

[lucid walrus]

huh

[vocal frigate]

I should say that's shield slams

So I'm full-on copium about tank pvp

[main silo]

okok so he should stick demo then

thanks guys

[topaz ether]

what are the best to slots to craft leggo on?

for arms

waste and what

[elder wigeon]

enduring blow is best on waist, free socket and doesn't conflict with helmet tier set

unity can go on wrist, ring, boots, most commonly

I chose wrist

some did neck for unity, but I think that's a poor choice due to mirror only being able to be on chest/neck

[hasty fractal]

HI all, speaking about rbgs here, are warriors mediocre for rbgs now? I am not seeing a lot of them on opposing teams, and I am getting my ass kicked. Seems like I have no kill pressure and am a lot softer.

[elder wigeon]

they're super squish and die very fast if the enemy team focuses them

[hasty fractal]

I hate how pvp is always (supposedly) balanced around arena, speaking as a battleground/world pvp guy /sigh

[full quiver]

Idk if it's doing 2s with rsham or doing 2s on war

But I'm gonna kms if I keep playing it

[sharp meteor]

play something like havoc/hpriest or hunter/hpriest and your woes melt away

as people just ambiently die to your raw output

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor

🙂

[sharp meteor]

hm

[nimble jasper]

i mean mage is the bigger issue in rmp

but still

[mystic barn]

Imagine wow being balanced around arena

[elder wigeon]

you can do that lmao

[undone pumice]

u cant when arena is a minigame to the devs

[sharp meteor]

blizz in charge of not squandering their opportunities to have something cool

[elder wigeon]

what having no pvp devs does to a mf

[sharp meteor]

it's just weird to me that they don't even have anybody working on stuff like, say, casual pvp

surely there's a reasonable amount of subs that just do random bgs

and it'd be worth having at least a few people to make sure casual pvp isn't super mega shitty

[fickle forge]

Do casuals care about the state of balance in casual PvP though?

[mystic barn]

do you care karg

[shut tangle]

can someone give me a screenshot of the conduits and which person to use as a kyrian please?

please @ me

[dusty saddle]

the ultimate problem imo

[odd quest]

Fury is the new arms in pvp?

[sage raptor]

The pot where you can see invisible people.

[tawny elm]

been seeing that a lot. saw a question on reddit where someone wondered why all warriors were stacking haste instead of crit and replies were it was because they were planning on going fury at 4p. not sure if thats the case tho

[odd quest]

Yea saw that 9 of the 10 highest rated warriors in 3s are fury, cool!

[tawny elm]

where are you looking?

[odd quest]

check-pvp

http://puu.sh/IRuDl/bb6f3df3ed.jpg

[radiant oasis]

arms feels so paper

the damage is there, i honestly prefer the burst to fury

but you just die

[graceful quarry]

being good at wow doesnt mean someone isnt a fucking retard

[elder wigeon]

how old is that screenshot

[shut tangle]

ty bro

[elder wigeon]

np man

[mystic barn]

warrior feels the strongest it’s ever been right now

[lucid walrus]

[fierce elm]

[fickle forge]

[elder wigeon]

[warped warren]

stfu dk main

[tiny dagger]

the wowhead guide for fury says to get dbl xiphos if you cant get soul crusher and jailer gavel. xiphos does have haste vers on it but its a 1h weapon. so should does that mean smf is ok?

[burnt heart]

For PvP it’s good

The move speed

[paper heath]

How much better is fury compared to arms? And do you still play Kyrian with crit gear as fury?

Thought fury wanted haste

[undone pumice]

most ppl like to go haste heavier

even as arms

[lucid walrus]

haste is good for arms and it’s preferred by fury

two dumps in one shitter

[undone pumice]

just go like 20% haste and ur fine

[paper heath]

But still Kyrian right? Cuz I saw in AWC they played Necrolord

[undone pumice]

kyrian good

necro good

venthyr goodish

nightfae goodn't

[paper heath]

ok ty

And which legendaries for fury?

Signet?

[undone pumice]

signet good

deathmaker good

reckless goodish

[lucid walrus]

sig & dm are good. heard mixed things abt reckless yeah

[undone pumice]

sephuz also good

[lucid walrus]

deathmaker is to fury as EB is to arms except fury has a competitor

[undone pumice]

probably the best one into cc/setup comps.like rmp

[elfin surge]

Any fury gamers?

[steep inlet]

Smexxin and Joe recommend single minded fury

But i never seen one atm

All top warriors are 2hands

[elfin surge]

2h is chad

1h beta

[undone pumice]

??

ah

[elfin surge]

😐

[undone pumice]

a 2 hander and a 1hander

bis

[elfin surge]

ur mom bis

[undone pumice]

thank you

bis mount

ur mom is

yoda i am

[elfin surge]

🆗

[elder wigeon]

fury is for dh larpers @elfin surge

[undone pumice]

single minded fury is for dh larpers

[elfin surge]

fury is a shitty dh yup

[thick reef]

yea shitty dh

fun af to play

[deft mirage]

Question guys, for fury is it any good to open vault as arms?

[raw summit]

yes

if you open as fury and get a 1h ur fucked unless u have 2 1hs

[deft mirage]

gotcha, will do then. That's what a friend told me too

[wet scarab]

finally queued into a guardian druid running the 4pc last night and my monk died in 30 seconds to 120k damage from the proc

30 seconds of incarn and he was just sitting there

can't believe they kept something so toxic in pvp

oh wait

[polar jetty]

Hopefully they nerf it

[wet scarab]

they said they would at reset

[tough compass]

Theres always that 1 Guardian Druid season in an addon

I was just waiting for it

[wet scarab]

fortunately it was only a week

but I mean even if it does 50% of that it's still ridiculous

since it also heals them

and it's 30 seconds xD

[burnt heart]

Guardian is far from balanced in 2s as is

[wet scarab]

I never really run into them for it to matter to me

actually haven't queued into many tanks at all this season

[raw summit]

yet to see one

so happy

[wet scarab]

I think I saw one prot paladin in 3s so far, and this guardian, and that was it

[burnt heart]

Last season it was prot and ww or boomy in 2s

That shits aids

The triple bubble

[wet scarab]

while standing in ashen lel