and they offheal if you attack their healers
#pvp
sharp meteor
wym they don't die it's wall, ele wall and that's it
full quiver
@fierce elm you are just spouting nonsense with no experience in the subject lol
earnest zodiac
is blodothirst just not of your pvp rotation at a certain threshold? do you just replace it with whirlwind?
sharp meteor
I think it's not used when you're perma enraged from cranking out infinite raging blows into rampages
sharp meteor
with 2pc and a lot of haste you just sitting there hammering away raging blows into rampages
sharp meteor
out fucking skilled
copper hare
would be fine if you were able to kill holy at least
but no they just play rezz legy by default now
copper hare
maybe it was our comp
sharp meteor
generally they play cdr
then rez if they think they die
like if their partners are bad kill targets
and they suspect you'll gib them
wet scarab
if you dont do any damage when they're ressing they come back with like no health and mana
earnest zodiac
yeah most hpriests i see we just truck them
uh and fury they generally dont live a big go
copper hare
if you dont do any damage when they're ressing they come back with like no healt...
doesn't matter vs good rmps
copper hare
20 min solo shuffle queue, is that like normal
wicked magnet
20 min solo shuffle queue, is that like normal
i did have a bugged queue earlier on my healer (its normally instant for my heals)
sharp meteor
20 min solo shuffle queue, is that like normal
deaad pointless mode
people who need honor aren't usually geared and die instantly
people with gear don't need honor
nobody wants to heal
doesn't give vault honor
fun but waste of time
magic lance
20 min solo shuffle queue, is that like normal
If you queue for random bgs at the same time it’s usually not too bad, one will pop as you get out of the other most of the time
fickle forge
time for rogue mage b2b2b
Did you get it?
sly furnace
2x demonbolts in one second and 29.7k each 😆
low sparrow
aanyone know ? can you play fury with a rogue?
raw summit
Why shouldnt you be able to play rogue fury
Rogue does all the stuns and fury gets to pick IV 
nimble jasper
sounds just worse
than ww sub
rogue in general doesnt like playing with other melee
low sparrow
Ret rogue is decent, albeit old school
what spec is the rogue
onyx dagger
Honestly don't remember what we did, it was early s2
candid veldt
Remember ret rogue hunter from cata
elder wigeon
just get 2400
raw summit
Just be surv hpriest highroll 4p
Get 278 conduits
And be hardstuck mid ladder 3s
:)
elder wigeon
60x more 2400 priests than warriors in 2's
elder wigeon
there's 1
flat isle
spice hornet
oh i fought those losers yesterday
cringe comp
just run down the retarded demo
and eventually you win cause the healer is bad and goes oom in 1min
spiral lion
is fury like definitely better than arms now or is it still being figured out??
nimble jasper
what spec is the rogue
every rogue comp that isnt rmp or rps is sub
gritty bough
Sorry for the newb question but whats the best stat weap to buy for fruy conq? haste/vers?
lucid walrus
haste/vers conq weapon doesn’t exist. you’d wanna stack haste though yeah
gritty bough
haste/vers conq weapon doesn’t exist. you’d wanna stack haste though yeah
ahh ty
wet scarab
There’s a nice haste vers 2h in Necrotic Wake but will probably be inferior to PvP 2h because of scaling unless it’s max level and the PvP weapons you buy are anything above 265 ilvl
elder wigeon
Sorry for the newb question but whats the best stat weap to buy for fruy conq? h...
mastery and vers
gaunt rover
Did you get it?
Yah next game haha
Fury's fun but why does a well played lock of any spec feel unwinnable against?
spice hornet
i like how even at lower ratings people are abusing ML hpriest
sharp meteor
Sorry for the newb question but whats the best stat weap to buy for fruy conq? h...
There isn't a haste weapon. Buy the mastery one, imo, though.
radiant oasis
ive been playing fury and bought the sword
i have a feeling arms will go back to being the best in a month or two
and the stats on the mastery one dont break the bank enough for me to jeopardize going arms in the future
sharp meteor
Crit on fury feels like inting.
sharp meteor
No, not really.
Like, crit isn't bad.
It's just that it's bad relative to the alternative stats.
radiant oasis
mastery and crit are both just damage incrementors
full quiver
All top wars when I checked were using crit 2h
In us
Email not just one of them equipped, some had it 2x
sullen mural
silly question but if u get a tier set from weekly chest in pvp section can u upgrade it??
sharp meteor
silly question but if u get a tier set from weekly chest in pvp section can u up...
Yep.
sullen mural
with honor i guess??
sullen mural
tyy ❤️
indigo barn
Wouldn't crit have decent value with spear?
That is before 4 set
Wait nvm forgot enduring rage is a thing
daring wadi
Anyone know any warrior streamers that still do pvp?
lofty lion
Anyone know any warrior streamers that still do pvp?
DjRio and Mes from time to time plays fury
daring wadi
Damn. Kinda a shorter list than I had hoped
lofty lion
those are just the ones i watch tbh
upbeat sapphire
Still gearing back up but Fury Venth didn’t feel bad in random bgs. What’s everyone liking when dabbling in Fury?
elder wigeon
venthyr is allegedly the best for fury
sand shadow
@daring wadi Qwneer, Whaazz (sometimes), Joefernandes, Tay
Zhrey
Trille (sometimes)
Magnusz
daring wadi
Ty
sand shadow
check NA as well, this is EU
rightmost coloumn shows if they have linked their Twitch
so you can find more people to watch
radiant oasis
Mes and smexxin
Im not crazy on venthyr fury
Feels like it's got no burst
Banner is so nuts between mastery, str conduit and increased duration from unity
sharp meteor
I tried necro fury and it just wasn't quite clicking.
Probably just playing Kyrian Arms for now.
sand shadow
You need 4pc and full gear for starters, and then a lot of play
wet scarab
healed a DK to full from like 5% hp 4 times
sand shadow
I queued some 2s as Fury today and got frankly destroyed
Tested Reckless Defender leggo, feels dogshit btw if anyone wonders
I can't "feel" the CDR at all
I know it's obviously there but yeah
sharp meteor
yeah i hit dummy and it's like
10 seconds
MAYBE 15 at BEST
which is not realistic unless u vs a sp or something
idk if it whirlwinds, like if you're constantly hitting 2-3 people that it doubles or triples the cdr but yeah feels underwhelming
wet scarab
yeah tonight 3s was just as tilting as 2s
hpriest partners simply don't die
I give up
full quiver
Feels like it's got no burst
Your rage gen and uptime is fucking dumb though lol
wet scarab
venthyr isn't optimal for people who've been doing arms for 2 seasons now
necro is ezmode and feels tankier
paired with signet you dont have to think too hard about your rotation and such
sharp meteor
Feels like it's got no burst
i mean the throughput is there
sand shadow
@sharp meteor problem w/ cleaving is Frenzy stacks and Battle Trance 😦
sharp meteor
yerrr
spice hornet
can i just have the DH version of 2pc
My mortal s trike and overpower deal 20% more dmg
sharp meteor
or dk where your 2m cd empowers the rest of your kit by 20%
pale minnow
or dk where your 2m cd empowers the rest of your kit by 20%
💩
pale minnow
My mortal s trike and overpower deal 20% more dmg
This is how i feel when u guys talking about these brokken ass tier sets 👆
sharp meteor
They already added pvp modifiers to a few, they'll probably continue to do that.
What I'm surprised by is the lack of tweaks to demo, assa, hpriest, etc.
shut falcon
Hey, is it more worth to get 4 set as arms than vers? I have 4 set but everything is from raid.
mystic barn
or dk where your 2m cd empowers the rest of your kit by 20%
that’s abomb limb lego not tier set
frost 2pc is 8% crit on a 20 or 45 sec cd for a bit more than 10 seconds, unholy is popping 5 wounds with ss puts a soul reaper on target and spawns a ghoul
sharp meteor
frost 2pc is 8% crit on a 20 or 45 sec cd for a bit more than 10 seconds, unholy...
oh yeah and glacials firing off
which could be
super cool
sharp meteor
I heard it didn't proc if u jumped lmao
mystic barn
glacial advance also despises anything that isn’t flat land with a surface finish of .0000005
Gonna get super trolled on mugumbala and blades edge
sharp meteor
hate moogabooga
monk rolled through the ramp and into the ether
and i think the big pillar in the middle can still be kicked/lept through
because the los is only the base 5 yards or something
mystic barn
Ya dhs can fly though the pillar
I appreciate frostwyrm for the fact it ignores walls
so many snipes
I’m only facing caster teams though is it already caster meta
pale minnow
I’m only facing caster teams though is it already caster meta
I feel the pain my man
pale minnow
Every lock/frostmage, rmp or some fucked degeneracy
mystic barn
I started the night 0-7 getting bodied by 4pc people though
rmp is actually rough for me now
pale minnow
Yo what's the addon called
pale minnow
Thx
pale minnow
I'm playing shadow warrior +mistmonk feels like a dead comp
mystic barn
mm
wps is good
idk about monk
You should try turbo
I got shot by 4 chain harvests in 2 min
just hanging on to dear life the whole time
sharp meteor
as long as you don’t /afk out of a match it records the game stats
jaxsurrender fixes the afk thing i think
sharp meteor
it disables afk and replaces it with surrender which only works when teammate dead or w/e
but stops u from auto pilot afking out and fking up data
plus u don't miss the honor
mystic barn
sharp meteor
because afk = no loss honor
mystic barn
Like
sharp meteor
yeah skybreakers plus venth leggo
or whatever
my sham plays it into pet comps
and just flings off harvest after harvest
mystic barn
I use bargain i only have 1 pet
actually that’s a lie I run aotd a lot
oh that venth lego is wild
near delta
That /gg command it adds is so nice
candid veldt
Death Sentence (PvP Talent) has been reworked. Execute/ Condemn charges to your targets up to 15 yards away. This effect has a 6-second cooldown.
TIL lmao
zenith breach
Hey guys, I'm looking for an EU Horde kyrian protwar with a sick and stupid sense of humor, that has at least some pvp experience 🙂 If you happen to be one, please let me know in PM, wanna do an experiment ^^ Ideally with tierset xd
raw summit
Pwar kyr hunt oneshot combo?
candid veldt
very rare I take that
used totake it all the time vs dh/monk, only just realised they added an icd to it
elder wigeon
i play warbringer instead
upbeat sapphire
TIL lmao
Okay so I read a guide where someone said “no big deal for Fury since Execute has a 6s cd for Fury anyway.” But everyone who actually plays Fury knows Exe cd is reduced by haste.
I’m guessing the Death Sentence ICD is a hard 6s? Not “4 globals”? So it was a nerf to Fury too and can only affect every 2nd execute?
upbeat sapphire
Figures. Ty
undone pumice
yeah but usually ur not lucky enough to get that many procs or u just wait 1 or 2 gcds which u sometimes want to anyway to enrage
upbeat sapphire
Gotta ramp sometime for sure.
I really want 4p to play around with a super-sticky RA build. Condemn gap closer + RA gap closer. Sounds hysterical
raw summit
It does
warped warren
Gotta ramp sometime for sure.
I really want 4p to play around with a super-sti...
3stacks of crushing blow is kinda enough to stick
with it being able to reset on itself and hns
undone pumice
raw summit
In pve that conduit adds 2k dps
So in arena it's also insane because fury essentially plays pve
upbeat sapphire
So Kyr fury, open with Reck & CB charges, then Spear when they’re down halfway 
Yeah probably don’t need Condemn / Death Sentence for that
indigo barn
upbeat sapphire
Lol
frank knoll
Any cross cc or set up we should be doing as Turbo
sharp meteor
i just flung bolt into kt on go and sometimes healer could do druid/monk things on enemy healer
frank knoll
I’m wondering if the shaman ever tries to hex
fickle forge
Half the time Hex is thrash to cast
tough compass
https://puu.sh/IQK1n/7c07c146db.png
reflected one of those yesterday and the lock died, man that was satisfying
sharp meteor
I’m wondering if the shaman ever tries to hex
that's more of an opportunistic thing
sometimes u can hex warr and kill his partner
rarely healer, but sometimes u can hex off the bolt if the team isn't going sham
mw is another option as it's just incap, sometimes into sweep
druid can also leap/incap/stun
fickle forge
Half the dps specs can dispel Hex though
fickle forge
Gotta kick Poly first before you Hex though
frank knoll
Yeah and if the shaman gets kicked on hex he’s locked out of healing
sharp meteor
like i said often an opportunistic thing
tawdry stag
is there a npc selling memory to craft legendaries now? or we need to farm it?
sharp meteor
Killing something once isn't really farming.
You can buy the Nathria ones in ZM, I think, though, as people couldn't get those as nobody does CN, lele
tawdry stag
but waiting for the right thorgast rotation to kill a boss is quite boring
dont you think
sharp meteor
You can just hop into endless halls and reroll until you get the wing you need.
frank knoll
You can buy the Nathria ones in ZM, I think, though, as people couldn't get thos...
Wait what
undone pumice
pog
runic galleon
radiant oasis
ive been playing deathmaker necro
radiant oasis
deathmaker and signet are both good though, comes down to how much you can stick
undone pumice
was he not a quest npc in revendreth leveling too?
undone pumice
we tried it
its like a worse enduring blow
now that the eb bug is gone since 9.1.5 it makes no sense to bother with battlelord
sharp meteor
anyone been trying battlelord leggo? Feels like it would be super goof
Enduring is just better.
radiant oasis
unhinged masterrace
narrow ermine
aegis is decent
dry trail
ye thinking the same
novel basalt
anyone know if this is an addon? Your friendly nameplates are half the length, would be really nice to use, you can see the druids nameplate is smaller
novel basalt
wym?
undone pumice
the party frames?
thats just raid frames
this tab
u can get it to look like the screenshot u sent
novel basalt
no nameplates
Friendly nameplates are half the length, i see this w alot of streamers and idk if its an addon or not
thick reef
Also, how the f do you remove the standard blizz enemy party frames in arena. I’ve found like 5 solutions on google, and literally none of them work.
wet scarab
for some reason those frames haven't worked for me in ages
the default enemy ones in arena that is
tough compass
@novel basalt its a script they run, dont have it myself tho
sand shadow
./run C_NamePlate.SetNamePlateFriendlySize(60, 30)
@novel basalt
tweak numbers until desired effect
follow me for more recipes
tawny elm
what do they mean in group finder for RBG when they write 2k2 xp and themselves are 1.4k?
2k2 xp in prev season or?
sharp meteor
when people say exp they mean the highest mmr they've seen even if it was only for a single game, or cr
even if it's from 12 years ago
in a diff bracket
on another class
tawny elm
doesnt sound relevant 😦
sharp meteor
it isn't but that's how people do
sharp meteor
like i can only go off current season maybe previous
a shaman rping as a wolf with spirit pack would be like 500 mmr lower now
tawny elm
what are all these unranked doing creating groups all day?
nimble jasper
what unranked
tawny elm
nimble jasper
I mean
tawny elm
theres 50% of those
tawny elm
yeah but you play a couple and you usually get more than 0 by then 🙂
nimble jasper
its literally a fill your vault bracket
havent played ig
cr doesnt matter in rbgs
lower the better
sharp meteor
i remember spooking a group in s1 by having low rating despite being like 17-2 or something
god i hate rbg players
nimble jasper
yeah
sharp meteor
and on the flip side of the exp thing
nimble jasper
i mean its also cringe in arena
nimble jasper
yeee
tawny elm
was signing up for a couple of RBGs communities some weeks ago but theyre still pending
is there anyone alive?
sharp meteor
hope not
tawny elm
😄
tawny elm
but i think its fun 😦
novel basalt
follow me for more recipes
@sand shadow my guyyyy, Thankyou, I used to have these and was loosing my mind
nimble jasper
also because you cant get hero
if you arent in the cliques
that run the entire bracket
@sharp meteor people that peaked 2.2 or below in cata or earlier
🤡
reason they peaked there usually
sharp meteor
dreading the prospet of pushing hero
sharp meteor
20% less time in stuns is pretty fantastic on everything.
Not just for survival, but 20% less time in a bolt/kidney/cheap means that you can spend more time doing damage.
It pushes I think literally every other Horde racial off the board.
sharp meteor
Not bad, just worse than hardiness.
sharp meteor
It's good on Shadow if you're Horde, but I think that's it.
nimble jasper
orc is biggest vs sub
cuz some rogues are bad and stungap vs orcs
also orc stacks with sephuz
undone pumice
broken
nimble jasper
but yeah mages dont need cuz blink stun
undone pumice
so mages are better troll or panda then
troll for haste buff
panda for quaking palm
wicked bison
who are some fury war streamers
sharp meteor
who are some fury war streamers
Smexxin.
sharp meteor
so mages are better troll or panda then
Pandaren would be the pick if you're theoretically playing blink every game.
wicked bison
why does he run reckless defender that a pve thing or just helps wiht goes
sharp meteor
idk i thought it might have potential but i tried it and it just feels super underwhelming
undone pumice
its fine its just like
rng anger management thats worse but also applies to your wall instead of just reck
undone pumice
like its rng as in
rng that has an impact on your survival
not just your dmg
so sometimes rvery rampage is a 4sec cdr on ur reck and regen
sometimes u grt none
minor vector
feel like reckless defender needs 4 set to get real value from it
undone pumice
no no
undone pumice
every single hit of rampage
sharp meteor
necro hasn't clicked for me yet
undone pumice
has a 20% to refund 1 sec
sharp meteor
yeah ik
minor vector
idk, with how shit fury's singular defensive is anything helps, but it's only ever an option into melee cleaves if that
candid veldt
what to do vs warlocks guys, so tanky and cant stun/kick reliably with their new trinket
undone pumice
/afk
sharp meteor
idk sometimes kill them but usually kill their partner
short ruin
undone pumice
hey guise what slot unity
quaint snow
what slot unit
little lava
what slot unity
full quiver
what slot are u guys doing for leggos
candid veldt
Man I literally JUST posted it
sharp meteor
wat slot unidy
spiral lion
slot untee wat
raw summit
Wat unity
sharp meteor
i crafted 291 elysian to pair with my 291 enduring and it not work help help
left finch
How do you play into something like lock/monk in 2s? As arms in 2v2
It felt just sad kited all around
Or rdruid/survival
near delta
Merce running leaper into the jungle lol
near delta
Or rdruid/survival
Rdruid/hunter is just pain
I've had a much easier time on fury with bloodrage.
elder island
For kyrian arms pvp, which leggo should i be leveling if i'm going to be stuck with the unity belt for a bit?
not going to have the rep for a while
sharp meteor
enduring
raw summit
sharp meteor
Hm. It's not too much of a pain to apply mystic touch as mw, right? Just a tick of crackle?
elder wigeon
Yup
sharp meteor
I hide the debuff a while ago to reduce clutter and realized that my mistweaver hasn't been applying it hm
spiral lion
so why are most r1 warriors going for the crit weapon over the mastery one even as fury? Just so they can flex to arms easier?
sharp meteor
so why are most r1 warriors going for the crit weapon over the mastery one even ...
Because that's what they got out of their box, probably.
Mastery/mace is fine for Arms.
Especially if things slow down.
sand shadow
It has come to a point, where I am, I kid you not, spam losing 2s games to hunters that, LITERALLY, land no more than one single trap in 5m+ games
not even exaggerating for a point
sharp meteor
That has been the case, yes. They win by avoiding your damage for a few minutes.
Trapping could be inting.
Max range pve dam
sand shadow
Problem is, they ain't avoid shit even
They just have fucking Jesus on their team
look at this shit
this is in 50%+ damp through MS
not even a crit
unstoppable instant cast
sand shadow
and its not just hunters that are batshit insane now
look at this shit
this is a 4min arena dude
meanwhile, he did 6.8k DPS
I checked, he didn't even have 4pc tier
guy didn't even bother kiting, I shit you not
he just sat in the opening area of the Maldraxxus arena
and sat there
the entire time
and facetanked me
elder island
is echoing resolve the move for trinkets?
sand shadow
it is, just not for you
elder island
haha
sand shadow
can be good into some shit such as hpriest/fire mage
for the time being, at least, they both have spammable CC anyway so once they figure it out, its prolly gonna be dogshit into them as well
sharp meteor
I think bigdebuffs already shows it now, so I imagine a bit more time and most people will play around it if they don't need the interrupt for other stuff.
Seems super good on a few casters, though.
sand shadow
its not just good
its busted
it needs an internal cooldown so fuckign bad
or better yet, bin the fucking shit
same with resonator
not even gonna talk about everyone and their mom coming out of the woodwork w/ a minimum 2pc tier
and a few chosen one heroes styling 4pc already
I especially enjoyed getting 100-0d by an Assa's Vendetta in def stance before my healer even realized wtf is going on
I'd also appreciate anyone that plays Assa explaining to me how System Shock, which should deal 21.6% of AP damage, crits for 13k in Def stance and 38% versa?
raw summit
i thnk it wouldbe been just fine without new trinkies
wheat jay
plenty of multipliers
raw summit
sounds like some tier bs
wheat jay
also that
sand shadow
@wheat jay Which ones?
sand shadow
Vendetta and Toxic Blade ought to be 60%
elder wigeon
shiv increases nature damage considerably
sand shadow
oh Shiv
so another 20%
Nah
that can't be it dude
look at this
its like, 5% less of AP
elder wigeon
don't know what to tell you
elder wigeon
preaching to the choir that assassination rogue is hyper meta and really broken
sand shadow
thats what 20% + 30% + ~12% + necro str codnuit + on use trinket
yeah ditto on that but
this shit must be bugged is my point
raw summit
might be
its blizzard
mm was bugged last week
more in pve than pvp but bugs seem possible
sand shadow
Slam is 35% of AP and I don't think I've ever seen anything close to a 13K Slam
elder wigeon
I've hit some pretty high slams
raw summit
the big ones happen but u remember the executes/ms crits
elder wigeon
i wish they'd buff slam again by another 25%
I miss ms and csmash generating rage and slam was your rage dump
sand shadow
I just checked, in the last 40 games that I still have Details for
my highest was 9.6K
sharp meteor
I've seen some huge overpowers but slams not so much
horrible horrible button to press
elder wigeon
i've hit a 18k overpower lmao
sharp meteor
yeah domed a rogue through evasion
sand shadow
yea but OP is a much much stronger attack
elder wigeon
eh slams really not that bad
I'd rather double slam than ignore pain on a kill attempt
sharp meteor
Ye for sure
elder wigeon
sometimes I'll forgo the slams and ignore pain on a kill attempt to stay more offensive
raw summit
ip op macro flashbacks
ebon anvil
i gotta question boys
i heard some people talk about fury being better than arms rn in pvp?
is it true?
sand shadow
fuck knows
nimble jasper
im surprised he even took that into warrior
feels the lockin is hemotoxin disarm bomb
sand shadow
I actually just now bothered
so in 1.6sec, a literal global give or take
he did, completely solo, 79,698 damage
I was in def stance
nimble jasper
hmm
sand shadow
This is with just 2pc btw, not even 4pc
sand shadow
yeah, Venthyr
sand shadow
😄
I mean, I get it, he's stacking modifiers
this requires a little brain sometimes
granted
point is, he can do it
w/o 4pc even
do 80K dmg in 1.6s
nimble jasper
idk how one gets it THAT high tho
sharp meteor
graceful quarry
sharp meteor
Yeah, I was gonna get started about the meme assa envenoms.
I haven't seen one playing Venth, they're usually Sub for that.
sand shadow
:)))))))))))))
Aegis doesn't simply absorb bombs
it gives you hp back and it srsly isn't working properly?
wet scarab
That doesn’t look like it’s giving you hp back it is just equalising the resonator damage
It absorbs all cosmic damage which is what the resonator does
sand shadow
yeah I know
Wish I streamed it
because both times I used it to proect from 2xResonators
my hp dropped a fuckton and never recovered
but perhaps im just old and blind
defo felt fishy, two times in a row
modest horizon
is it worth going for 4 set and drop from 34% vers to 29%
its hard to keep up the stacks of the 4 set and yes the inc proc is nice, but not sure its worth 5% less vers
sand shadow
34% means you were already skimping on going full vers somewhere, otherwise you'd be around 38%?
so mb you can make up for it w/ enchants/gems etc?
modest horizon
yeah got some pve items at higher ilvl with vers on them too, but its lower than the pure pvp items
got all vers gems and enchants
wet scarab
I don’t think I ever got to 38% vers in fully upgraded duelist gear?
Being fury helps since you get vers on both weapons
wet scarab
It’s fine, not as bursty but makes up for survivability in its self healing
Lots of people trying it right now
wet scarab
Kyrian or necro, smexxin swears by venthyr because of the rage generation from condemn for rampages
I think necro is more beginner friendly and helps with burst
modest horizon
but then you defently wanna use 4 set i think
wet scarab
4pc is op but 2 pc is good too with the extra charge on raging blow
modest horizon
are starts haste/vers?
wet scarab
Yeah haste vers and mastery
RA builds are really fun with the 2pc since you can stick to kiting classes
Just constant charges with raging blows that get refunded into hunters and druids
wet scarab
Reckless abandon, last row talent in place of anger management
modest horizon
talent
yeah its late 😛
what pvp talents are you using?
is slaughterhouse worth taking
nvm Im gonna look stuff up in a guide ty
sharp meteor
Sure feels nice to be able to just play Trance and then hit something with low mobility.
sand shadow
I don’t think I ever got to 38% vers in fully upgraded duelist gear?
4 non-vers sockets
lucid walrus
I don’t think I ever got to 38% vers in fully upgraded duelist gear?
if you're rocking full sockets or close to it you'll get there
modest horizon
but as arms do you think its worth dropping some vers to get 4 set? 2 pices dont have any vers on them
lucid walrus
absolutely
simple rock
i'm at 39% vers all haste gems ring haste enchants
topaz ether
sorry lost post
simple rock
as fury
elder wigeon
wet scarab
Bis macro time bois
elder wigeon
I don't think it's a buff
it's a nerf, relatively speaking
brutal vitality gets less value
can't stack the shield if it gets deleted faster
wet scarab
Lol love the BM hunter damage increase
sand shadow
these are obviously pve changes
which, naturally, means they'll become PvP changes
limber pond
how much versa i can lose to gain str?
nimble jasper
4 non-vers sockets
feel like everyone should have the sl movespeed gem+the bfa 5%
sand shadow
i play 123% speed
burnt heart
civic sierra
what's up fam. I just came back to the game and was wondering if fury is the best spec now? I watched a bit of AWC earlier today and all warriors were fury. I already crafted my 291 lego for arms and I was going to craft crit/haste for signet since fury has always been my pve spec. But now I'm wondering if I should craft it with versa instead. Also most of my gear is crit/versa already and I think fury prefers haste? thanks
sharp meteor
Both specs seem fine/good.
Imo vers/haste to flex between them.
Also haste/mastery or haste/vers signet is probably better
civic sierra
got ya. I thought haste/crit was the bis for PvE but I guess putting in vers is worth the investment.
sharp meteor
It really isn't worth worrying about until you're more situated, by which point the prices will likely be lower.
elder wigeon
i play 123% speed
how do you get 123%? 120% is the cap
elder island
is arms still stacking crit as kyrian?
elder wigeon
I'd play more haste than crit due to enduring blow
but in that case I'd play ~15% crit/haste
elder island
i just came back and that trinket set bonus removal hurts so bad lol
elder wigeon
it's more so an issue with d-stance getting nerfed
elder island
yea i kind of expected that though but it sucks
everybody wants my cheeks in the arena 😦
elder wigeon
yup warrior is kill target against most comps
radiant oasis
enduring rage is also perma
enduring isnt mandatory
there's often a better choice
disarm, bloodtrance, bloodrage, enduring
slaughterhouse is mandatory
civic sierra
why don't they make D stance something like -50% dmg dealt while keeping the 20% reduction
like it just needs to be awful every second you're in it so it serves as an actual defensive instead of an op passive
proven sierra
hey guys is the 5% movement speed gem a thing? I saw people using it before but it doesn't seem common
near delta
hey guys is the 5% movement speed gem a thing? I saw people using it before but ...
It's still a thing people just don't have as many gem slots as they did before so other stats are prob more important atm
proven sierra
It's still a thing people just don't have as many gem slots as they did before s...
oh that makes sense, thanks Deepak! 🙂
near delta
Np!
proven sierra
one last question, someone just asked this but what is Kyrian running stat wise? I'm currently stacked for crit but i'm seeing many variations and was wondering if haste is better atm for arms, I'm only running 2s atm.
i'm also seeing a balance of haste and crit so I dunno it's pretty confusing lol
elder wigeon
why don't they make D stance something like -50% dmg dealt while keeping the 20%...
that'd be exceptionally bad, just train warrior so he can't deal any damage at all
near delta
one last question, someone just asked this but what is Kyrian running stat wise?...
It's honestly more preference right now. Last season people usually went all crit since that enhances the effect of EM, but haste is a lot better for enduring blow.
near delta
So do you want more chances to proc enduring go haste or bigger burst windows more crit. Or a mix for the best of both worlds.
elder wigeon
d-stance is too punishing when fury gets 10% damage reduction with no drawback
proven sierra
It's honestly more preference right now. Last season people usually went all cri...
I guess having both legendaries gives both benefits, haste makes a lot of sense for EB though yeah
thanks again man
proven sierra
going from execute spamming as venthyr to kyrian is pretty interesting, much more finesse haha
near delta
Yup lol
Man what is with these destro lock/frost mage comps?
All these dudes legit playing like classic C9 out of nowhere lol
proven sierra
spell cleave is terrifying
elder wigeon
mage lock is op as hell, get used to it
near delta
mage lock is op as hell, get used to it
I ran into 3 different teams that all had an rdruid who played just like kubzy lmao so tilting
elder wigeon
nice
granite haven
best slot to make unity on for pvp?
elder wigeon
depends, most common being chest/legs/wrist/ring
granite haven
gonna go wrist so haste/vers will also be decent for prot
mystic barn
not for long once you get your 4pc and start one shot shield slamming nerds
granite haven
hahaha
elder wigeon
gotta do what you gotta do to shit on these demo locks
granite haven
amen
near delta
play with a kultiran who will punch people to you and shield slam
The alley-oop comp. Big
spiral dock
If i want to play turbo, currently, which spec+covenant combo is better
radiant oasis
elder wigeon
If i want to play turbo, currently, which spec+covenant combo is better
kyrian arms seems to be the best, but kyrian fury is also a good choice
necrolord as either is also good
but I think kyrian arms is the best
spiral dock
Alright! thanks for quick response <3
granite haven
whats this thing makinga boomy uninterrruptable?
playing with a dk so nothing from him i dont think
raw summit
the new pvp trinket
undone pumice
fastidious resolve?
clear ibex
Wanna go with fury for pvp. Can I run unity + signet?
clear ibex
Cool, will try that.
quaint snow
hey guise what slot unity
undone pumice
hey guise what slot unity
frank knoll
You put unity on dese nuts
wicked bison
fastest honor farm right still bg spam
undone pumice
idk, what slot unity tho
sand shadow
how do you get 123%? 120% is the cap
The current realistic cap is 128% actually
But idk, prolly not worth unless veeeery specific reason
unless you mean something different by cap?
thick reef
What’s the difference between arms/ww vs fury/ww?
radiant oasis
neither are climbing the ladder
thick reef
neither are climbing the ladder
Ty for this non answer
sand shadow
@undone pumice its not free, you trade about 2k hp and around 80 secondaries
and for just ~5% speed
sand shadow
missing one only
You go: 3% speed, 5% speed, and 13 speed per SL gem gems
Cloak enchant
262 ring
undone pumice
broken
sand shadow
thats 123% if you have full sockets
if you want 128%, you go 233 speed neck and 233 speed ring
sand shadow
for 5% it prolly isn't, yeah
had to test it tho, because I couldn't find a speed DR chart updated for SL
because the expected trade for 2k hp and 80 secondaries was 13%
but it's brutally DR'd
sand shadow
you get 2x68 speed
which you'd expect to be 2x6.8% or close to it
but the DR is just insane 😄
and you instead barely get just 5% :<
old donkey is sick and tired of hunters dude
if you guys still play Arms and still queue 2s
I'd really suggest you try 123% build, 2 charges, Warbringer
I am currently winning more than I am losing
try it for real tho, not just 1 game and give up
undone pumice
ok so is it the worthest
to just take currency if i dont get tier in vault
so i can get sockets for speed
sand shadow
no lol fuck that
get high ilvl
one of my warrs is 277
the other 274
I swear I can feel the difference
undone pumice
idk
radiant oasis
how on earth are you 277
radiant oasis
link your profile
radiant oasis
wtf how
fierce elm
Its called playing the game
radiant oasis
im playing
fierce elm
getting good vaults
radiant oasis
i got 4p tier
sand shadow
fucker
fierce elm
doing raid
sand shadow
you got 4p
fierce elm
There ya go
sand shadow
and you complaining?
fierce elm
and being high rating
sand shadow
undone pumice
u need to look at ur pvp ilvl i think and u will 100% be 270 at least if u have 4 pc
undone pumice
man has been farming noobs since 2004
bro this game is older than me i can barely read
sand shadow
I have a PvP movie dude
look at this shit
1:1 Aspect ratio interface, the real shit
sand shadow
that was always a lie tbh
undone pumice
i know
undone pumice
but its funny to see some old pvp montages from old age
sand shadow
A lot of people did tho
undone pumice
and see random clicks on rarely used abilities or engineering gadgets
sand shadow
yeah
😄
idk, anything that I use, I always have bound
for example I have a keybind for Shadowlands Generator toy, the one that ports you
dry trail
hello chad and chadetes what trinket u recomend to pick up from the new ones ?
sand shadow
and one for my transmog mount
undone pumice
the only stuff i dont have bound is like for the sahrdhide whistle or the repair mount
undone pumice
i even have my bandages and hearthstones bound
undone pumice
do u have netomatic bound
sand shadow
fucks that
sand shadow
hello chad and chadetes what trinket u recomend to pick up from the new ones ?
from the quest you mean mr chad?
dry trail
yes
sand shadow
if I had to start it all over again
undone pumice
sand shadow
i'd go Aegis -> Resonator -> Echoin Resolve
rest are irrelevant
ewwww, dude, that's a worldPvPer thing
i fucking hate world pvpers
undone pumice
its funny to dismount people afk on flying mounts
dry trail
ok i will pick aegis for that sneaky spellcasters
sand shadow
yeah Aegis is great
Resonator can be good
but I don't use it tbh, mb I should try more
Echoing Resolve you need to actually think before using
it's actually worth I think vs some specific shit
undone pumice
only real ogs bind a trashtalk macro tho
sand shadow
since I didnt play mop so i wouldnt know
sand shadow
I mean, I am joking
notice the win rate
it's obvious something fishy is happening :>
I don't even remember exactly how it worked
it was only happening on Russian battlegroups too
undone pumice
just q at the same time ig?
sand shadow
nah they were bugging their MMR somehow
but I just don't remember the exact mechanics
sand shadow
2nd team is Hydra's btw
arena teams are BS
they're terrible
we hated them back in the day
undone pumice
cringe invention
sand shadow
know what always gets me looking through old screenshots
this one
ignore everything else, especially my UI ROFL
just look top middle, my ping
261ms, green 😄
it really was a different age of WoW
game thought you have a great ping up to 300ms
sand shadow
imagine playing w/ 261ms right now
this is either 2005 or 2006
back then that was considered good 😄
undone pumice
i get physically sick if i play with less than 40fps now
sand shadow
you see that hammer on the back of my pally tho?
BiS Ret PVP hammer back then
took me another few months to quit ret
undone pumice
no fuckin idea what that hammer is looks like a scuffed sulfuras
sand shadow
it was the most pathetic thing you can imagine 😄
Hammer of Woe
dood
i screamed when I won it
w/ DKP 😄
sand shadow
nah, just the crop making it "feel" like that
along w/ the fact you can park a car between the left and right side bars
undone pumice
the recount aslo being in a severely random ass position adds to it
sand shadow
Recount looking beautiful ❤️
look at those pie charts
iirc, this was me theorycrafting improved Slam or some shit
back in the ice age, Slam was a casted hit 
undone pumice
like heroic strike?
undone pumice
like an actual cast?
sand shadow
a cast bar
undone pumice
like shatter?
sand shadow
yea
undone pumice
the fuck