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onyx dagger
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RA with 4p is very strong

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Even 2p

deft mirage
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I like it a lot on arenas at least. Main difference against Anger is that you'll have your burst less frequent, but a better one to say it in some way (gap closers and more dmg). Raging blows will work as a consistent gap closer to the target as long as it keeps on 10yd range (it gives you a charge on the skill, just like death sentence does to execute, but with no cd afaik) and overall, ragingblow and bloodthirst hits for more.

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I tend to use it against comps that I know they kite harder. If I will have 100% uptime I go anger as I will be able to burst many more times and probably catch them without walls on cd

radiant oasis
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ty for the detailed explanation

deft mirage
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np ๐Ÿ˜„

radiant oasis
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i havent given it a go but have 4p

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i might try it

deft mirage
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Yeah, see what I told you with a dummy to understand the gap closer

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it's pretty pog tbh

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Nice on having the 4p! I had no luck at all on tierset ๐Ÿ˜ข

undone pumice
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imo

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guaranteed uptime = am
need to make uptime count = reckless abando

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so like

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if preist is kill target

feral timber
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had no idea this was even possible

undone pumice
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u go anger management

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wtf

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big charge

wet scarab
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yeah warbringer can crit and does big d if you're in avatar

novel basalt
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whats the best second leggo for kyr? Unhinged or EB

feral timber
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oh shit

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thats nuts

wet scarab
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probably my favorite and most satisfying way to kill rogues

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also murders warriors trying to run from execute range

feral timber
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sheesh

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been havinga lot of fun w warbreaker+avatar+blood fury+AA combo lately

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if it crits its basically a oneshot

wet scarab
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a NF warrior in the wild!

feral timber
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yeah just fuckin around and found it actually worked

undone pumice
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its just a meme

feral timber
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that with resonator too lmao

wet scarab
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he's... literally playing it

feral timber
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oh i know its not bis at all

undone pumice
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ok

feral timber
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just funny to watch damage chunk

undone pumice
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but that doesnt mean its better than any other cov

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that is true

wet scarab
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he didn't say that

undone pumice
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but necro can still gigachunk too

feral timber
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still have t otry that

wet scarab
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I kind of want to try kyrian fury, haven't played around with it yet but feel it would be nice with signet

feral timber
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only hadd bastion lego until this week so now i get to experiement

wet scarab
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and extra vial is nice healing

feral timber
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yeah vial is nice

undone pumice
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kyrian fury

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is great

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imo all the main covs are good on fury

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venthyr gives uptime and rage generation

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so does necro and kyrian

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xd

feral timber
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lol i wanna see the burst on double warr w kyrian+fae with the spear AA combo

wet scarab
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faerie lumberjack

undone pumice
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pog

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ive done kyr necro lumberjack

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was hot garbo

feral timber
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lol

wet scarab
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double necro was where it was at last season

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double banner and double unhinged was the meme

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worked with one as fury as well

vapid ruin
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guys should i buy two 1 h weapons as fury or buy a 2h and save for the other one?

ionic gazelle
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What does AA combo means ?

raw summit
undone pumice
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i know but

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if u already have guarnateed uptime

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just go am

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battle t rance is still bugged with reckless abandon too

raw summit
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man

wheat jay
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go kill a rare

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xD

raw summit
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i did like 10 alr gotta find a last one

undone pumice
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lmao

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go do the wolrd boss

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i got my last rep i needed eith him

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never gotta go to zereth mortis for daily slavery again

raw summit
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alr did

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found last one now though

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lets see if i can afford a 291 deadge

undone pumice
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literally

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75% of my bank account was spent on two 291

feral timber
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my warr on welfare now after buying leggos

undone pumice
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same

raw summit
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100k + another essence

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so one 291 prolly

undone pumice
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i spent uhh

feral timber
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my bracer for unity was like 70k

undone pumice
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150k on leggos

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my belt was 80k

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bracers 50k

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ring 30k

feral timber
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cloak for raid was 90k

undone pumice
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150k in total

feral timber
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EB belt was 80k

undone pumice
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if i want to play fury with 291 dm or rd thats another bunch of money

raw summit
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imma need to do some torg for this shit

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weekly done though

undone pumice
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i did 1 torg 10

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because for some reason i enjoyed doing torgh at some point

wet scarab
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can't believe you guys didn't buy the base items last week when they were cheaper

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I snagged bracers and a belt for like 30-40k each

crystal moon
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so are we not going for 4set or 2set for pvp arms?

undone pumice
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uhhh no?

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the pieces i needed were

wet scarab
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unless alliance are less mercenary than horde is

raw summit
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80k for belt hm

undone pumice
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200k for belt

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300k bracers

raw summit
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wrist also 80

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man

undone pumice
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last week

wet scarab
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switch to alliance

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or buy tokens

feral timber
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lmao lassan waht server jesus

undone pumice
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epic server man

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so epic!

wet scarab
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yeah I picked up the bracers early last week for around 35 or 40k

undone pumice
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i love being scalped

wet scarab
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belt was a bit more expensive, like 50k

raw summit
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imma wait for a day or 2

undone pumice
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would be smarter

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but u gotta juice people in random bga

plush yacht
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What stat prio are you guys thinking now, with enduring and spear leggo do you think it could be worth to add some more haste

undone pumice
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haste criy split

crystal moon
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we going for 4p for arms? i can't find a definite answer on guides and the leggo suggestions in pin would mean we can't wear it

lucid walrus
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pins are from 9.1 and there's no reason not to wear tier rn

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tldr is craft leggos off tier slots if possible

crystal moon
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ty

plush yacht
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Currently running this

undone pumice
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big

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maybe try less mastery

iron basalt
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is there anything wrong with putting unity on necklace?

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I want to use the crafted 262 haste ring and I have a cosmic glad second ring

undone pumice
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not really

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but why bother

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just put on wrist

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or ring

clear pine
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What damage trinket we using resonater, proc trinket or on-use? proc has haste peepoHappy

wet scarab
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resonator is nice if you can pin classes that dont escape spear easily

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I dont use it with any other covenants

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aegis is quite nice into magic comps like mage or warlock during dps windows

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rest of the time either haste or crit depending on your stat prio

clear pine
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Hm gonna wait for some vault drops before I buy a trinket, thanks

wet scarab
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you get resonator and aegis from the weekly, no need to buy those

clear pine
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Yeah i know, i use aegis on most comps. Good againts ret and dk too

sand shadow
fresh kite
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People wearing tier in pvp over pvp gear?

clear pine
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tier is way to stronk

onyx dagger
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tier pvp gear

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is the way

sharp meteor
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Often yeah, though. Ilev and secondaries sometimes just don't compare.

fierce elm
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Wear tier

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tier is better than non-tier

main silo
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Do i still go for crit build as kyrian arms?

raw summit
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the filthy thing about 2p is you have a 13 sec wb

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so it lasts a full disarm and u can still get huge dam in

sharp meteor
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Also locking self into kyrian burst setup not ideal imo when Fury on table

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plus we're always playing enduring now which is nice with haste

main silo
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kk, thanks

radiant oasis
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bro is warrior in the gutter?

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im struggling at 1800 in 2s

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what is going on

undone pumice
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2s is harder for warr than 3s

sharp meteor
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warr doesn't feel great in 2s

raw summit
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hpriest seramore

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delete chasitize

undone pumice
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unless ur low mmr

wet scarab
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should just be a disc ability

undone pumice
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and get to ding low gear ppl

ionic gazelle
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Okay quick question - New Legendaty - Ring or Neck ?

mortal wyvern
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depends

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what covenant are u ?

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what's ur 1st lego?

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kyrian u can get ring unity

ionic gazelle
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Thats the problem - i want to get max freedom and switch between 2nd leggo and covenants

mortal wyvern
sharp meteor
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then make haste neck or ring for unity

quasi rock
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not neck

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keep the slot for misshapen mirror

mortal wyvern
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vers crit ring for unity?

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yes

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tier set bonus

ionic gazelle
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Mirror, hell yeah

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i have all legednaries possible in ring

sharp meteor
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went with neck because i like my crafted ring movement speed

wet scarab
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alternative suggestion: use what makes sense based on your current gear acquisition and recraft as necessary by finding a side gig to pay for tokens

ionic gazelle
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but double legendary rings looks weirg

sharp meteor
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yeah worst case scenario u recraft later for like 50k and an hour of torghast

mortal wyvern
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enduring blow waist + unity ring for me

sharp meteor
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ya enduring waist, unity neck, then i think siege on back for fury. maybe defender on gloves or w/e slot eventually.

ionic gazelle
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Okay, i got you suggestions, thanks buddies !

wet scarab
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I mean if you can afford it and you don't have a tier helm just craft enduring blow for helm with its fat stats then recraft it later when you do get a better helm, following the bis suggestions blindly right now will result in you gimping yourself in pursuit of a gear template that isn't available to you right this moment

sharp meteor
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maybe signet ring? not sure haven't played it yet hmm

ionic gazelle
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guess it looks like wrist

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exploiter ring

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bs mortals ring

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signet ring

pale minnow
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guys i need help! can I use only the legendary what they gave me at the end of camp with another leggo only?

sharp meteor
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buying leggos for 3 warrs that could play any cov and arms or fury

pale minnow
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I allready have a leg kyrian leggo and I want EB on belt is this gonna work?

mortal wyvern
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so are we gonna have more than 2 legos later?

ionic gazelle
quasi rock
sharp meteor
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Arms benefits from mirror somewhere

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and potentially sephuz?

raw summit
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u can go deathmaker/signet /seph

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for fury

sharp meteor
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like siegebeaker and enduring just don't feel great to me into rm

ionic gazelle
raw summit
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since u can just get better rng and be 4 ilvl up

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or have tier

spice hornet
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does venruki just q cringe shit 24/7

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every day i fight him playing his frost mage garbage shit

spiral marsh
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wait, Arms is haste now??

signal jungle
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so what is the second lego for arms now? (kyrian)

sharp meteor
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the echoing resolve advocate

wet scarab
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I like seeing him champion frost mage

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it's a more interesting mage to play against than fire

undone pumice
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true

spice hornet
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it presses 1 button

undone pumice
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also true

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but i dont get 1 shot in .3 frames

wet scarab
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it doesn't really, it's pretty easy to line their cd, needs a bit more planning and alignment with partners

undone pumice
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i get 1 shot in .5 frames instead

wet scarab
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so actually needs more skill than db sheep combust

spice hornet
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soo many frost/demo qing rn

sharp meteor
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current incarnation of frost is like bfa destro where u HOPE they throw veins/skele out before u commit with cds

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then u hard run for 40 seconds

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after that they USUALLY can't kill because most of them are awful and are banking on you just getting 2-tapped by bolts in the first minute

wet scarab
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yeah but that's a more interesting match up and trade than fire mage

sharp meteor
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also locks and frost mages thinking their specs are unplayable when they trinket the literal first cc that hit them offensively so they can chase you behind the pillar with shimmer/fae

wet scarab
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what locks think their spec is unplayable

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it's utter cancer

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I don't mind playing against that comp with spriest

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especially hero spriests that know when exactly you need that life grip

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if you have a paladin healer it's also really hard for them to trap you in LOS

undone pumice
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just move

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wait

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isnt shaman and like

wet scarab
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it is hard sometimes with their random freeze procs

undone pumice
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mage or lock good

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because u trap them

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in the lightning field

wet scarab
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that totem dies in like one hit

undone pumice
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i dont attack totems

wet scarab
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rip

undone pumice
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

spiral marsh
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people with Greaves of Elysian Might are super fucked now?

undone pumice
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yea

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but that was everyone

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so just craft unity

wet scarab
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you can recycle them for cinders and soul ash so you don't have to farm when recrafting Unity

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and because recycling legendaries is good for Azeroth

quaint snow
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what stats are you aiming for as kyiran arms? Versa - crit - haste?

spiral marsh
undone pumice
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same

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i bit the wow token

quaint snow
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unity on wrist with haste + vers, crit + vers, or crit + haste??? suggestions serioussloth

undone pumice
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hey guise what slot unity

fierce elm
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hey guys what race

undone pumice
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hey guys what spwanpoint (irl)

spice hornet
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pls daddy give me melee cleaves

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i cant take these spell cleaves anymore

wheat jay
spice hornet
nimble jasper
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warlock players

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dont think their class is good

sharp meteor
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vesper frost magus demo lock aaaaaaaa give me back retwarr

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i can hear my healers hairline receding

spice hornet
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the 2 warrior teams were free wins

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this game is awesome

clear pine
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can you win as fury a 1on1 against rogue with all cds?

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equal skilled

nimble jasper
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no

elder wigeon
sharp meteor
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another season of being slot machined by male tauren rets

elder wigeon
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rets locks and hunters are dominating right now

spice hornet
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got double 1 shotted by a lock again

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basically same as my earlier screenshot

sharp meteor
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double demo lets gooo

spice hornet
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that comp is probably the freest gladiator right now

sharp meteor
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vesper ele sham

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frost magus

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aaaaaaaaa

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give me the 10 minute retwarr dampeners over this

spice hornet
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i miss melee cleaves so much

glass sparrow
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Best gear piece for covenant legendary?

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(kyrian)

sharp meteor
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probably ring?

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ring or neck with vers/haste PROBABLY?

glass sparrow
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hmm yeah maybe

wet scarab
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Warlock is one of those classes that make me think they fired their class designers

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How can the long game rot spec and the spec that summons armies of demons have more burst than the burst spec

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And that burst is with magic bolts as opposed to the army of demons they summoned from the twisted nether

spice hornet
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such wonderful diversity tonight

sharp meteor
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CASTERS ARE UNPLAYABLE MELEE META DELETE THIS

flat isle
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Imagining I was you.

spice hornet
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ye all he plays is frost mage spell cleaves now

warped warren
flat isle
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Its kinda funny though. Because like the next game he got obliterated by a WW/DK

flat isle
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And was complaining how unfair it was

spice hornet
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dk fucks them

flat isle
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Next game he queues into you

sharp meteor
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i am rollling unholy

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and eating the wizards

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they will know pain

flat isle
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Frostboltfrostboltfrostboltfrostbolt

nimble jasper
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badruki washed

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unlucky

flat isle
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Outplayed as fuck tbh

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He hit deathborne

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Also I love all the demo locks being like

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Omg you let them get so many casts off

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As if the damage amps don't last 20 seconds and resolve isn't a trinket

spice hornet
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i keeping qing into this sasme fucking bvitch demo lock and he is literally1 sec 100-0iong me with 2 abilities

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40k 41k

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53k 36k

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39k 39k

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through DRs

undone pumice
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bruin 2

spice hornet
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iwish

sharp meteor
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damage is SO insanely high lmao

flat isle
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Hey man. According the forums it's super hard to set up

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And totally stoppable

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Clearly it's balanced

raw summit
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Just los it

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Dood

nimble jasper
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warlock players defending resolve are funny

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even rmp players acknowledge how retarded resonators are

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but wizards cope and say resolve is fair

undone pumice
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fuck wizards

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all my homies hate wizards

graceful quarry
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bro just line it ezpz

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just kite the dh

candid veldt
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with tier peices what items are you guys buying for conq after weapon?

sharp meteor
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bought gloves and boots along with chest because i got tier helm

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not even sure why this week scares me with all the wizards lmao

echo anvil
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wtf is this?

nimble jasper
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uhh

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flarkness comp

spice hornet
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thats the

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equip resonator

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and bomb the druid

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comp

echo anvil
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WTF!!!

spice hornet
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lmfaoo

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the fuck is taht

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what rating is that?

candid veldt
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is kyrian still crit > verse > etc

spice hornet
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oh its EU

echo anvil
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1400 but we dont talk about that

nimble jasper
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psure

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thats the guardian 4p

spice hornet
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fucking kekw

wet scarab
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lmao

echo anvil
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Dead in 1 min haha

spice hornet
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just a silly goofy season

nimble jasper
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oh yeah it is

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bear radiates aoe

wet scarab
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Architect's Aligner - While Berserked, you radiate (45%26.6% of Attack power) Cosmic damage to nearby enemies and heal yourself for (61%39.7% of Attack power) every 1 sec

nimble jasper
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when berserk is popped

wet scarab
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lmao

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it was nerfed even

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lol because what guardian druids needed in pve was more healing and aoe damage

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it already was an idiot proof class that allowed you to face tank anything and now you don't even have to press any buttons xD

sharp meteor
echo anvil
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Cant for some reason but mate looked at it and said it was 99% the tier set doing the dmg

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this is it no?

wet scarab
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yup

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if they have incarn, which they all do, it's 30 seconds of aoe damage and healing

sharp meteor
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cool thanks i was curious

echo anvil
wet scarab
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lol 4 pc guardian won't need teammates in BGs

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they can solo all flag maps

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god mode

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it's literally one button they have to press xD

spice hornet
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why does ur dk laugh at me for no reason? @elfin surge

spice hornet
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oh

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hes so toxic

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kid needs to get a life man

sharp meteor
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season ends and mud gets 5 r1s on warr, petkick gets 5 on dk

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gosh he has a decent chunk of games played already

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but i guess it's a pretty fun time to be unholy

near delta
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Was watching Dorito/Saul in tourney qual vs palumor's team. They killed dopamine and waylor guardian'd / ray of hoped the seed and he just got back up. ooof lol

flat isle
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Anyone that does as many 2s games as Petkick is default not all there.

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Let's be honest

spice hornet
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hes just a toxic loser lol

sharp meteor
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didnt pika have like 18k games played s1

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is he really

flat isle
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I assume it's more the fact that he knows it makes people annoyed

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Toxic losers are the guys like the mage I beat once who then whispered me after telling me to get covid, kill myself and that he hoped my kids got cancer

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Thats toxic

sharp meteor
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crikey that's a bit much

flat isle
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Yeah man. Was officially the most angry I've ever seen someone

nimble jasper
sharp meteor
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yeah tru

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rich smurf man

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it's so funny to me that people simtuaenously hate boosting

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and watch him 1-hit people at 1.5k all day

nimble jasper
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his viewers are low rated too

raw summit
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I prefer watching pika_pala bedge

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He's great

nimble jasper
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i watched him clown on some guy yesterday

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some priest with an ego cuz he can only q 2s with hunters

raw summit
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If pika did his stuff at real rating itd be even funnier since hed get more whispers

near delta
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When I got my first duelist. I literally ran into pika every other game carrying some random 1300 dude was tilting AF lol.

raw summit
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Does he do viewer boosts and only people in the chat can play with him

hollow wolf
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Hey guys, im new on war, i have some question about arms in pvp, how is arms on duel? Globally

raw summit
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Duels are a) irrelevant b) not warriors strength

hollow wolf
near delta
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Fury might not be the worst against some stuff with impending victory

raw summit
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Mind you in duels we dont get to use "duel" or intervene n stuff

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Which makes us good

wet scarab
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something about pika makes him thoroughly irritating for me to watch and I have no idea why

fickle forge
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Arms could duel if it had a way to heal

wet scarab
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ez duel near mobs and kill them mid fight for victory rush procs!

raw summit
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Or do the rextroy and Pop down a toad

hollow wolf
wet scarab
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man that sounds a lot cooler than what happens which is get ganked by roaming raids of the opposite faction farming rare mobs

raw summit
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Open World pvp doesnt exist

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Literally fake

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If u are Max gear and opponent isnt u will probably win

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Just because u 2 shot them with certain builds

fickle forge
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Just run people over then, the average world PvP'er is horrible

raw summit
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Mhm this warrior popped full CDs

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I should face tank that

hollow wolf
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I play ret pal since WoD (ye i know u can insult me) and i do a huge break after castle natria and im just back, and now im looking to try/play warrior, if i ask this question, itโ€™s because, i know war is not a pal, cant heal )and bubble teleport) but i lookig for a โ€œwayโ€ to be โ€œself sufficient/ independentโ€ in solo content/warmode and survive

spice hornet
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there really isnt a way for warrior. it just doesnt have that design. teh best you can do is play fury, play impending victory, play the conduit talents (tha barely heal)

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or go arms and try to kite on second wind

raw summit
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Second wind also heals

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Similar to ret we have big hits

hollow wolf
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Maybe war is not a good idea for the type of player i am? I dnt know

Fury have more survivability?

sharp meteor
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ye

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i think fury plus impending might be your cup of tea

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provided you don't get 2-shot you can usually just run at somebody like a dh until they die

near delta
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Also necro so you can get the self heal off a fear or whatever

raw summit
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Necro fury with tier is omega Zug

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I love him

hollow wolf
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Urg i choose kyrian xD

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I will try fury tomorrow

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Thx for ur anwsers

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GN all

fickle forge
raw summit
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Feral is ungodly in 1v1s

spice hornet
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there is an ele abusing vesper totem 1 shot by insta procing it on drop

sharp meteor
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is he a dwarf

spice hornet
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no its an orc

sharp meteor
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oh intersting

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i heard frogs proc it

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along with did/dwarf racial

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so u can do it off gcd and just ding somebody instantly

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so much gimmicky shit these days

nimble jasper
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โ€œjust kill totemโ€

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as if any sham with half a brain drops it somewhere you can reach

sharp meteor
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even if u hit it

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it has a lot of hp

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like if i charge he moves it

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on hunter it took like 2 cobra shots

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and by then, with travel time, it could've sometimes been used

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it's just so obnoxious

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and then they run until their next stormkeeper/skyfury

wet scarab
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soul cinders from torghast got a bigly buff so you cheapskates can recraft

sharp meteor
#

cinders didn't take long i just dislike dumping gold into leggos at current prices

dusty saddle
#

why are you guys running fury now

full quiver
#

Cause arms is d tier

lucid walrus
#

gap between it and arms shrank

elder wigeon
#

the gap is essentially non existent right now

#

fury and arms are as good as each other in the situations they're good

sharp meteor
elder wigeon
#

fury has insane damage and self healing

sharp meteor
#

Fury has a lot of potential, but Arms is still seemingly decent.

elder wigeon
#

arms has insane utility

sharp meteor
#

Yeah.

#

I need tier and to play more to get an idea.

dusty saddle
#

especially since arms was like the best spec ever in s1

elder wigeon
#

fury got a lot of love since then

#

and arms has been nerfed over and over

spice hornet
#

lol at everyone qing with demo locks rn

sharp meteor
#

hotfix to delete them when

near delta
#

Pls

#

Can't even kill a whole dark pact with demo talent sometimes now

#

Did not expect liquid to 3-0 kawhi

sand shadow
#

so ST is falling behind ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

near delta
#

Yeah. Also death strike is getting insane again.

sand shadow
#

I guess Fury also benefits from the relatively higher than expected hp pool this ssn

#

since we have %hp healing stuff

sharp meteor
#

Game slowing down would help fury, less opportunity to get randomly vaporized while you sit there and do pve damage into a guys head.

sand shadow
sharp meteor
#

I have actually no idea how anybody new gets into arena now, low-mid mmr is all 1-shot cheese.

sand shadow
#

can't believe it

#

I really can't

sharp meteor
#

Yes, that was a great fix.

sand shadow
#

they actually fixed it

#

jesus fn christ

#

๐Ÿ˜„

sharp meteor
#

I figured they'd leave it until 10.0

sand shadow
#

I mean, it took em 2 seasons

sharp meteor
#

Passive 8% wall versus both dps for nothing was like

sand shadow
#

but it got fixed

sharp meteor
#

okay i guess

#

hunter just

#

hm

#

Blur still 99% dodge HMM

sand shadow
#

I swear Blur is bugged and is dodging more than should in PvP

spice hornet
#

it is

sharp meteor
#

It's 80% up from 50% in PvP for literally no reason.

#

Since, like, I think 9.1

sand shadow
#

I believe it was initially bugged to not provide nearly any dodge

sharp meteor
#

I tell people it's bugged and it's like "haha yeah they dodge a lot" and it's like nonono it's ACTUALLY bugged and giving 30% more.

sand shadow
#

and now its the other way? epic.

sharp meteor
#

Between that and conduit Blur is just an "off" button that you can't really hit into without a stun.

sand shadow
#

had the hardest great vault to figure out today since forever

#

on one of my warriors

#

gloves, legs, 2H

#

first two tier

shut tangle
#

what are the new stat prios now?

#

is it still haste over everything

#

and then crit

spice hornet
#

haste fell so good

sand shadow
#

Go 1.3~ globals and put rest into crit as Arms, imo

#

Fury, Haste is king

#

especially if you dare go Condemn, then you need haste out of every single piece and then some

indigo sable
#

Hi guys, wondering which slots we should be crafting legendaries on for arms pvp? atm i have enduring blow on helmet, but i think i've seen that its better on belt now? where do we want to put unity typically?

sharp meteor
#

Enduring on helm is fine until you get tier helm out of box.

rain valley
#

Kleia is obvious choice for ST/pvp/raid right? Then mikanikos for m+/aoe

indigo barn
#

Kleia is a dps trap

#

Capstone procs at the wrong times

shut tangle
rain valley
indigo sable
sand shadow
elder wigeon
spice hornet
#

that stun is so obnoxious lowkey kekw

#

always seems to proc on me never DR'd and always up

#

has saved so many

elder wigeon
#

yup the stun is extremely clutch

indigo barn
#

@rain valley the crit you gain is only 5% for 15 seconds every minute instead of the 6% you can get for 100% uptime as teammates commonly dropping below 50% hp, which procs the valliant strikes heal

wet scarab
#

lol came here to thank our lord and savior mikanikos

#

clinched a win against a warlock, a hunter, and a DH

#

the hunter was racing to kill me before I kill his priest, procced the aoe stun while his priest was in execute range

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RIP

#

does anyone know whether you get stunned even if you're in bladestorm?

sand shadow
#

cant get stunned in BS, no

wet scarab
#

I meant the Mikanikos thing but probably not

#

Kyrian arms with double leggo and some decent gear actually feels pretty well rounded and good

#

With the 2pc and PvP weapon was hitting some nasty MSs and executes

sand shadow
#

yes, I know, you immune the aoe stun if you're in BS

pale nebula
#

is fury better on 2s?

near delta
#

Unity is so broken my god

#

Will work for me for necro but not for kyr for some reason

pale minnow
#

Yo why is kyriam leggo not working????

shut tangle
tired portal
tired portal
sand shadow
sharp meteor
sharp meteor
sand shadow
#

Right

#

I am mostly still an Arms brain

sharp meteor
#

I'm torn on the value of crit and mastery, particularly for Kyrian.

sand shadow
#

Mastery will always win out in overall dps

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, but crit swings games and stuff.

#

Hm.

sand shadow
#

yep, exactly

#

but, consider this

#

as Fury, you don't really have big burst buttons

sharp meteor
#

It's like if every second or third spear you get a crit or two it can force something extra or net a kill

sand shadow
#

you kill people via relentlessly hitting them into the dirt

#

plus, w/ the tier set

sharp meteor
#

Yeah.

sand shadow
#

your Enrage uptime will skyrocket

near delta
sharp meteor
#

Bunch of little hits for the most part, you just want to damagebot somebody.

#

Take it off, put it back on

sand shadow
#

Mastery buffs your Enrage

near delta
#

Done that multiple times as well

sand shadow
#

Mastery wins. That's how I see it.

near delta
#

And switched over covs

main silo
#

Deepak clear cache

near delta
#

And those work fine

#

Hmm aight

#

I'll clear my cookies as well ratge

sharp meteor
main silo
#

๐Ÿช

sand shadow
#

clear your desktop table while at it @near delta

sharp meteor
#

I don't know if a bit more haste really fixes it, but yeah.

sand shadow
#

can see from here its dirty

#

jesus

near delta
sand shadow
#

im omniscient

vague crater
#

how do you guys see deathmaker over signet in pvp (fury) since you just ST pve down someone ๐Ÿค”

sand shadow
#

Truth time

#

Signet is fucking dogshit legendary and it needs to die in a fire

#

i hate it

#

in pve

#

i hate it

#

in pvp

#

fucking casino legendary

#

@sharp meteor especially if people go w/ Smexxin's recommendation for Condemn Fury, Haste all the way

#

I need tier set to test it myself, but my suspicion is that Condemn is overhyped right now

#

not that it's not good, but it will congest your rotation so bad

#

you'll be sitting on RB charges all the time

#

and you should never be sitting on RB charges

#

but then it has a defensive benefit as well, and Draven is good

#

idk.

near delta
sand shadow
#

has anyyone tested btw, does the condemn lego extend 4pc Reck procs?

#

oh wait, nobody fucking has 4pc

#

fucking blizzard

upbeat sapphire
#

Was gonna say lol

#

This stretch before catalyst is stupid. Big gap between 4p high rollers and 1p plebs

sand shadow
#

been whining about it since PTR

#

its just that the majority of people only now realize how fucking abysmally dogshit of a decision it is (because they have a normal life and dont test shit on PTR)

#

for it to start on week 8

#

and the real kicker? 1 per week.

#

dogshit design

near delta
#

Bad design in my SL?

sharp meteor
#

I'm enjoying my ratty 2pc

#

Feels really super good as both specs

near delta
#

I need to get some arms games in

sand shadow
#

i fucking did LFR today

#

hoping for 1 to drop

#

i ought to sue

sharp meteor
#

LMAO

#

yeah my sham has been doing norm and lfr

sand shadow
#

emotional damage

sharp meteor
#

on his 3 shaman

#

with no luck

#

he suggests i try killing bosses, i say i can't be bothered

#

invites me to a run, legs drop

#

then i get duelist helm from box

#

enduring becoming 35% feels nice

#

plus longer wb

sand shadow
#

in 2s, i can instantly tell people have 2pc btw

#

esp demon hunters

#

its so obvious

#

I was actually wondering, does 2pc Arms work for WB procs off Enduring?

#

or nah?

#

that'd be nutty AF if it does

upbeat sapphire
#

Who could have predicted this. Itโ€™s not like last tier raiders went through rng hell for a set bonus that only worked in raid. Who could have known applying it to PvP would be worse

sand shadow
#

they know, they just dont care

#

People underestimate the people working at Blizzard big time

#

imo, atl east

sharp meteor
sand shadow
#

its not that they're this incompetent

near delta
#

Clearing my internet history worked! Thanks, guys.

sand shadow
#

no the duration I meant

sharp meteor
#

Oh, no. At least I don't think so.

#

Lemme check to be sure.

sand shadow
#

go dummy that shit dude

#

important stuff1!!

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, I hadn't tested becasue I just made enduring.

sand shadow
#

that'd be so busted if it does

sharp meteor
#

It was on helm before where I got tier

#

lets see

sand shadow
#

enduring procs lasting 9sec kek

sharp meteor
#

it'd be swell

sand shadow
#

i see we have different words for 'busted'

#

but thats okay

near delta
#

I remember reading that it doesn't but I'll test it rq

sand shadow
#

I really doubt it does, yeah

near delta
#

Oh right need to reforge enduring cause of tier lol

sand shadow
#

but then again, stuff like this falling through the cracks wont exactly surprise me either

#

imagine if fury 4pc reck procs also proc'd reckless abandons 50 rage

sharp meteor
#

yeah every time somebody i know finds one of said things

#

they can adjust how they play and sometimes end up inting matches just so the details doesn't look sus

#

and yeah enduring duration unaffected

novel flint
#

At 4 piece, fury runs reck abadon on arena sure?

sharp meteor
#

potentially? likely?

sand shadow
#

nah, not necessarily

sharp meteor
#

the cdr is also

#

quite nice

sand shadow
#

AM 2 gewd

sharp meteor
#

yis

sand shadow
#

it also reduces BS cd dont forget

#

(or am I retarded?)

novel flint
#

Only reck

sharp meteor
#

i thought it didnt affect bs just uh thing

#

angry move

sand shadow
#

yeah its just arms

#

so just reck then yep

sharp meteor
#

the uh charge blow

#

pretty funni

#

back to back

#

3 charges

#

refunds

sand shadow
#

I think AM will eventually win out in people's minds

novel flint
#

Poor Hunters trying to escapeyep

sand shadow
#

It's just so much more rage gen

#

and rage gen is more rampage

#

and so more enrage

#

and more 8stack slaughterhouse

#

endless loop

sharp meteor
#

pyepyepype

#

looking forwaard to it

#

2pc already so fun

sand shadow
#

what was the odds RB procs Reck w/ 4 pc again?

#

it 20%

#

strongness

#

which begs another question, does the proc reck get affected by the reck duration conduit?

#

man, I need fucking tier set

sharp meteor
#

uh i thought somebody said it got proportionally affected

radiant oasis
#

imagine not having 4p

sharp meteor
#

but that might've been ptr

#

so like another second or w/e

sand shadow
radiant oasis
#

the proc feels like it doesnt last very long

sand shadow
#

that ought to be fun if it happens in arena

radiant oasis
#

you get two globals

sharp meteor
#

also just queued into ret playing with nf hpriest

sand shadow
#

can get up to 3 globals if its 3sec, for sure if its affected by the conduit

sharp meteor
#

so he had wings up sooner

#

spoopy

sand shadow
#

if you can have uptime during the window, that is

#

w/ haste stacking, during enrage, gcds ought to be near teh 1sec mark im guessing

#

if you are able to fully optimize that window as venthyr, the window itself will be worth around 88 rage

#

no, im wrong, since its a global that triggers it, so you can start your next global a few hundred ms into the proc

#

so yeah, 2 globals most of the time probably, maaaaybe a 3rd one is not impossible

sharp meteor
#

i really dislike how bad it feels to lose uptime on fury

#

arms is like whatever ms/op on cd, wounds up, getting back to them

#

fury is like AAAAAAA my rage gen

sand shadow
#

true enough, its also why bicmex/lyanne/aritros kinda threw the game vs Blizo's fury

#

Blizo never even played Bloodrage

#

should've tried to isolate him instead of going on him imo

#

iron trap him every 20s and let him scratch his balls

sharp meteor
#

yeah have dismantled some people so hard because they don't know about the root break on a 20s cd

#

they know bs is on cd and that healer can't get me out

#

then i break it and can see them scratching their head

sand shadow
#

fury is advantageous to play rn

#

people haven't figured it out the way they have arms

sharp meteor
#

yeah nobody knows exactly how it works in terms of dmg profile

sand shadow
#

yep

simple rock
#

very few know how to drop their ms stacks

sharp meteor
#

arms is like the most played against, especially kyrian

simple rock
#

or just to do it in general

sharp meteor
#

micro-kite/cc

#

to deny rage or refresh

echo anvil
#

Best comp of 2 for 3s in 9.2??

A] War(arms), DH, rShaman
or
B] DK, DH, Holy Priest

fierce elm
#

hello team

echo anvil
#

Hi

gloomy raft
#

Hey guys, is there a reliable fury PvP guide out there for 9.2? Very curious to test it out

gloomy raft
#

Thank you sir โค๏ธ

undone pumice
#

hey guise what slot unityhey guise what slot unityhey guise what slot unity

elfin surge
#

hey what slot unity

warped warren
#

hey hey hey

#

unity slot what?

elfin surge
#

@warped warren what slot unity?

warped warren
#

trinket 1

elfin surge
#

@warped warren is arms or fury better bro

warped warren
#

prot

elfin surge
#

@warped warren what stats for prot rbgs

raw summit
#

What covenant rbg (pvp prot)

warped warren
#

and crit for 50k shield slams

elfin surge
#

which slot unity

warped warren
elfin surge
#

๐Ÿšท

#

As a warrior main is it considered toxic or justified to tbag a frost mage who qs with a demo and hpriest?

sage raptor
#

Don't warrior mains tbag everyone?

elfin surge
#

๐Ÿ˜

plain lynx
#

Yall play painbringer right?

undone pumice
#

we go stable phantasma lure

plain lynx
#

Thanks, just crafted that ๐Ÿ™‚

vapid ruin
#

quick question,how do you guys make gold to afford legendaries?

undone pumice
#

zm farming or wow token

#

jewelcrafting is also great

mystic barn
#

@fierce elm wrong

bright stream
#

what are people doing stat wise as arms on unity and enduring? Haste/vers or crit/vers I'm guessing so that they get close to 40% vers when having the set bonuses?

#

belt for enduring, feed for unity?

mystic barn
#

Why would you want to get to 40% verse when the trinket bonus no longer gives you bonus vers

#

And 40% vers is wasting a ton of stats

#

Go for around 30%

bright stream
#

lot of the warriors on ladder building vers on their legos

mystic barn
#

yea and you lose a lot of vers from tiersets

#

so it evens out

#

Just donโ€™t go for 40% vers

undone pumice
#

more vers = more dmg

mystic barn
#

more mastery = more dmg

#

More crit = more dmg

#

More haste = more dmg

undone pumice
#

more mastery =/= execute dmg

#

so ur point is disproven

mystic barn
#

have fun wasting stats on vers

undone pumice
#

i will

#

but how tf do u get 40%

#

literally impossible

mystic barn
#

Yea idk man

undone pumice
#

im struggling to even go past 32

mystic barn
#

I dropped from 35% or whatever down to 29.5 and feels good

undone pumice
#

i dont rlly focus on vers

#

i dont even ench or socker vers

#

just speed and haste

#

gen z zoomer warrior

warped warren
#

when your max speed 126% ms warrior cant catch up to a wolf

#

pressing banner for movespeedsadge

sand shadow
#

pressing both banners for even more speed dander

undone pumice
#

both banners

#

single minded fury

raw summit
#

@undone pumice Plan?

undone pumice
#

leap legendary

raw summit
#

2 Banner gaming?

undone pumice
#

plan?

#

big banner boys?

raw summit
#

I should be the one on fury btw

undone pumice
#

-100% cc resucrion?

raw summit
#

Since i have 2p

undone pumice
#

i know

raw summit
#

I gotta Zug 3 slot this week

undone pumice
#

my arms is 291 but my fury 262 too

#

i gotta zug 6 slots this week

raw summit
#

Im like 258 because i didnt get 291s yst

undone pumice
#

fury doesnt even have war banner im pretty sure

raw summit
#

But necro Banner

undone pumice
#

my legendaries i mean

raw summit
undone pumice
#

kekro banner

#

i think necro fury gonna be good

raw summit
#

I need to make DM cloak and unity still

#

Waiting for price drop

undone pumice
#

why not reckless?

#

isnt the spec that struggles with survival fury

#

cuz its harder to press ignore pain

raw summit
#

Damage

#

Big

#

Also pve

undone pumice
#

ah

#

there it is

raw summit
#

Ye i wanna play necrofury

#

In raid

undone pumice
#

necro fury isnt good anymore tho is it

raw summit
#

ye but its fun

#

and if u play it correctly its good enough

warped warren
#

by good enough you mean hold reck for banner and spam crushing blow wicked

raw summit
#

all u do is not overcap

#

and is okayge

full quiver
#

@warped warren if you play signet does it add to buff timers or refresh (avatar, reck)

#

Like if I pop reck and get avatar, then pop BS and it gives avatar. Is total duration same or does it just refresh and I'm wasting a few seconds of buffs

warped warren
#

should add

sand shadow
#

I swear, RM players are the biggest gaslighters ever

undone pumice
#

rogue mage when our main defensive counters melee

sand shadow
#

This is such an obvious gaslight attempt, honestly. What he says in that comment is perfectly reasonable and most people would agree: a single Defensive shouldn't counter such an incredibly devastating go. What he is omitting to address is how such a situation, where the enemy team literally has nothing anymore to fight back arises. And it's because every single go, minor, medium, or strong, nearly always requires a defensive/trinket/etc

#

Not to mention that the majority of the time, it's not like you can choose to get CC'd alongside the killtarget or not

#

disgusting, really

undone pumice
#

"JUST TRADE CDS"

#

they have more cds

sand shadow
#

it's like im reading propaganda, no joke

#

"here's a logically consistent argument taken completely out of context"

narrow ermine
#

which of the two 2H conq weps is better, mace or sword?

gaunt rover
wet scarab
#

really need to find teammates willing to tank their rating for a bit until I learn this

#

but will go prot with 4pc

wicked bison
#

why are disc preists so low this season

sharp meteor
#

because hpriest is batshit insane

undone pumice
wicked bison
#

so they all just switched

sand shadow
#

im so happy I have to farm fucking honor again

burnt heart
#

Solo shuffle is like 500\win

#

Thatโ€™s cash for how easy it is

#

Just pick the worst player and zug zug

sand shadow
#

yeah, cool story bro

#

one problem

#

solo shuffle doesn't exist for DPS

#

I sat 12mins waiting for one and just X'd it

#

this is like my 3rd or so attempt at joining a Solo Shuffle so far btw

#

never ever been invited to one

burnt heart
#

U NA or eu

sand shadow
#

eu

burnt heart
#

Weird 10min+ que in prime time

#

Hate to see it

sand shadow
#

kill me

warped warren
sharp meteor
#

It's a fun mode but nobody wants to heal, and games are decided by the healer.

#

And if there's not a massive healer diff then it's the dps who doesn't press buttons in opener.

#

so 80%+ of games are just people sniffing out the weak link and bodying them instantly every round, like the guy with no hp, or the vulpera with glasses

wet scarab
#

disc priests are still good the problem is they force their partner to play very offensively and when they are out of gas that's it

#

hpriests can do everything they do

#

with 6 lay on hands per minute

sharp meteor
#

disc still fine for pve comps like jungle it's just hpriest is so brutally strong in every way

sand shadow
#

โค๏ธ

sharp meteor
#

it's like 10ishj on NA but often have people ragequit when they get dinged in opener

#

and healer ofc instant

#

cringe devs not making it count towards vault

nimble jasper
#

โ€œsolo q will save gameโ€

sharp meteor
#

I mean it will be great if they fix gearing

#

although the queue thing is funny

#

everybody wants a healer but nobody will play a healer etc

undone pumice
#

everybody wants a tank but nobody will play a tank

sharp meteor
#

i play tank just not for pugs lmao

#

actually almost everybody i know is willing to tank or heal it's weird

sand shadow
#

remember me

sharp meteor
#

make it count for vault and delete rbgs reee

sand shadow
sharp meteor
#

queue just popped

#

and it's guardian vs guardian

#

kms

undone pumice
#

just dc

#

and go play minecraft

sharp meteor
#

why would i play minecraft

#

okay 1k honor for approx 5 mins

#

decent decent

odd bison
#

With Unity upon us, as Kyrian Fury, I yeeted my Elysian Might into ashes, I will make Unity into my belt but what other leggo I should play with and in which slot?

#

(for PvP purposes)

sharp meteor
#

I don't know it's probably like deathmaker fury, enduring arms

undone pumice
#

probably put unity on wrists

#

for multispec

#

then put deathmaker on cloak

#

reckless on neck

#

and sephuz neck too probably

#

these seem the most versatile

raw summit
#

smh

#

it doesnt matter if u get cdr on ur wall if you die through

undone pumice
#

u get cdr on ur burst too

#

bitch

raw summit
#

legit 25% of AM

#

for ur lego

undone pumice
#

its so u get

#

to run

#

reckless abandon

#

and stilk get cdr on ur burst

raw summit
#

u get like 30 sec off with am

undone pumice
#

and additionalky on your wall

raw summit
#

so like 8 with reckless def

undone pumice
#

u get to kill people with reckless abandon

#

and have a lower cd regen and reck

#

its the most verdatile

raw summit
#

the cdr is so weak

undone pumice
#

ok

#

but its cdr

raw summit
#

its bad cdr if it was good cdr id use it

undone pumice
#

deathmaker is very funny tho

raw summit
#

agree

#

ill make it once price down

undone pumice
#

just

#

maw rattle

candid veldt
sharp meteor
#

i have heard cries of shield slams

#

if prot is any good imma q with pala friend playing nf

clever fern
elfin surge
undone pumice
#

its fine

#

but like

#

signet ring

#

is cooler

wet scarab
#

just want to stop by to say fuck elemental shamans

sharp meteor
#

is their tier crazy or something

#

i only find them annoying with vesper

wet scarab
#

they just dont die