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novel basalt
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wait so can we have elysian might on belt, Use enduring blow and have 4 piece tier? Or are we have to grind to revered

sharp meteor
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hate it here

ancient sonnet
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@novel basalt you can do that but it wouldn't be optimal since tier helm is haste/vers so you want to use that slot for tier

wet scarab
flat isle
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Random skill capped video comes out saying what legendaries to craft and its like "you should make enduring on helm"

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As if it wasnt obvious enough it's a scam

sharp meteor
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i mean skillcapped knows their audience

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which is just people who want to be told what's good

wet scarab
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I mean if you don't have tier helm and are swimming in money then craft it on helm and recraft when you have tier

left finch
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That is exactly what I did

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But out of ignorance

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So now the general consensus is EB on waist and unity on wrist?

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Correct?

wet scarab
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people are doing either wrist or ring, I personally prefer wrist since you can get the 262 crafted rings

left finch
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Currently I have eb on helm cuz im retarded

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Ok

wet scarab
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or saying I should say, they will do it next week

left finch
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Ring sounds good too

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Tons of stats

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What scares me is that I will be forced to craft both EB and unity again for pve gameplay

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🥶

sharp meteor
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so what another 100-200k for the whole tier

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which will be like a year

ancient sonnet
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Haste/vers or Crit/vers for Unity ring?

left finch
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It isnt the gold that kills me. It is the soul cinders😅😅

ancient sonnet
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can farm that shit in 30 minutes

rain field
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Quicker to farm cinders than to farm gold

pale minnow
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Ma boyz, tell me a solution about.... what should my healer(rdruid) or i do when we face rshamman+ warrior i'm getting 0 heals cuz mf shamman purges all heals of me, no matter if i keep the pressure on the bitch he keeps on purging , so is there a solution?

ancient sonnet
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Zug the shaman harder

spice hornet
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people who rely on resonators in 2s :/

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really crringe

flat isle
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AWC had 2 warriors so far.

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Both were fury

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Both were kill target

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Both were benched after 1 game

tough compass
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All of that was sadge starting with the fury specc

flat isle
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Legit depressing

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Warrior back in for round 3 yep

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He's fury Pepexecute

spice hornet
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i already saw that coming

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its a free kill target

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and cant use half of its utility on itself

daring wadi
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Where should I craft my second legendary when it unlocks?
Enduring Blow on head and keep Unity on Belt or should I craft it on ring?

spice hornet
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unity on ring or bracer

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EB on waist

shy aurora
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What are people rocking with when we Get dble legendary? Kyrian or necro?

daring wadi
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When you get 4 set you swap to Necro

near delta
nimble jasper
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rdruid uses tranq immune on a hoj that wasnt threatening and i kill him 10 secs later for it

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my fucking eyes

sharp meteor
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fury feels nice when u can damage bot a target bedge

nimble jasper
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i was helping friends hpal get 1.8 for box on monk i havent q'ed since s2

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could have ropped tranq but was so dumbfounded by how bad that was

polar jetty
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ppl going to use 4set in pvp?

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even with the loss of vers?

daring wadi
elder wigeon
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absolutely

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versatility is not that great

sharp meteor
sharp meteor
spice hornet
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evis damage is way too high for sub 😦

nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor queue daily rbg for vault

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dh tells me its normal for him to get solo capped on by a boomy

sharp meteor
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EHEHEHE

nimble jasper
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also being told "you dont play dh"

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by a guy whos 800 max lower than i was on it

spice hornet
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nothingbetter than fotm DH playuers

undone pumice
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"fotm"

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dh has been good for 2 years

spice hornet
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yes but lots of people rerolled to them only recently

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very sad

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hate looking up a DH after fighting one in 2s, seeing 2s:2200, 3s: 1789

sharp meteor
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I love bullying all the DHs who don't have the legion elite sets. bedge

undone pumice
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has dh

sharp meteor
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It's like using the power ranger set.

spice hornet
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if they would just fix the blur being 90% dodge would be a huge nerf

sharp meteor
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Yep.

undone pumice
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ever not been top 5 specs

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since legion

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in pve or pvp

spice hornet
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wasnt around much later in s1, was it? but s1 did die due to mmr changes

sharp meteor
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sucked in s1 of sl

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but i didn't play it then

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and everybody just picked hunt and 1-hit or got 1-hit

undone pumice
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in pvp only tho right

sharp meteor
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oh yeah idk idc about pve

spice hornet
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i didnt really pvp much until later in the season s1, since i was venthyr for PvE

undone pumice
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pve was still meta

spice hornet
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and by then it was so dead

undone pumice
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just like

sharp meteor
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i just look at pve for an idea of what they might nerf

spice hornet
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6min+ qs at 2100

undone pumice
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why does blizz love dhs

sharp meteor
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my healer kept saying they'd gut arms im like nah bottom barrel in raids

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and sure enough arms got buffs

spice hornet
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i think they like having a simple class

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for the brain dead idiots

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keep them in the game

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so they keep DH strong

sharp meteor
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unironically yeah

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monk flopped

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too hard, too weird

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dh super auto-pilot

spice hornet
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has literally like 10 abilities thats it

raw summit
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if i have 2p i kinda become a dh as fury

undone pumice
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then why nerf fury

raw summit
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because it was the best melee

undone pumice
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by adding soothe

spice hornet
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blizz doesnt like when fury is great

undone pumice
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but fury is dh with

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3 extra buttons mby

raw summit
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well people expect dh dam

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but fury ...

undone pumice
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fury is forgotten spec

raw summit
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most people i face just get omega smacked since they dont expect 2p fury dammer

undone pumice
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lost to time

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wtf is furys 2p

raw summit
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next week btw yep glorious fury andies

undone pumice
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3 charges on rb?

raw summit
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3 rbs

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10% more dam on it

undone pumice
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wtf

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broken

raw summit
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very very hard crushing blows

undone pumice
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but battle trance is still bugged

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blizzard its been so long

raw summit
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idk i just stack up the dam thing

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and kill someone before they kill me

undone pumice
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good thought proccess

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worksnt

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druid soothes your enrage

raw summit
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not at my mmr

undone pumice
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ahh i forgo4

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we are pisslow

raw summit
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btw imma get the dk a vault and maybe even a lego

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so we can actually game

undone pumice
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lets go

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no more cursed double arms lumberyak cleave

spice hornet
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frost pumps

raw summit
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we can actually already go do it so i get a vault easier

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its just gonna be sus asf since i dont really have the hp pool

undone pumice
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tru

raw summit
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im feeling good about it though

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hitting 10k oblits p commonly now

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chillstreak alr big

undone pumice
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but i just woke up so i gotta feast first

raw summit
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its 00:41

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?????

undone pumice
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mm

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classic 7 hour powernap

raw summit
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maniac

undone pumice
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i have feasted time to lose our already low cr

raw summit
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not tonight

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its 1am

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tomorrow in reasonable times

undone pumice
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time to level my 57 alts

raw summit
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our monk spent the day leveling a warrior

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opinons?

undone pumice
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triple warrior

raw summit
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He's 58 on it now

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that guy is insane btw

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that monk he made end last seaosn

undone pumice
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how long did he level today

raw summit
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and within 3 days /played

undone pumice
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from 1 to 58?

raw summit
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he got 1800 and 240 on that char

undone pumice
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in a day?

raw summit
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nah not that bad

undone pumice
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def doable

raw summit
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went like 51-56 today

undone pumice
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i levelled my warr

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1-120

raw summit
undone pumice
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in 20 hours /played

raw summit
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yea my war i leveled between a weeks raid and got it to the required ilvl for cn normal

undone pumice
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warrior leveling

raw summit
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agree

undone pumice
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monk leveling

raw summit
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Thing is

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I have 6k Gold on dk

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seramore 235 Lego prolly

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And have monk get me through torg

sage raptor
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Systems that involve the player economy is such a bad idea.

spice hornet
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love fighting an assassination rogue with 4pc of tier! and I have 0 🙂

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really fair game 🙂

raw summit
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How does it feel

sharp meteor
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Like being doused in gasoline and set on fire. deadge

spice hornet
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peopel with 4pc should be put in an entire different bracket rn

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like its legit unfair

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lol

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imagine losing with 4pc as assass and using resonators with hpalhealer with 2pc

lucid walrus
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shouldn't be possible

spice hornet
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my healer has 17% vers too

lucid walrus
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imagine

spice hornet
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man fuck this game

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q into fury warrior with 4 pc next

elder wigeon
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don't take the game too seriously rn

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some fucks are lottery winners with 4 piece doing 20% more dam just by existing

lucid walrus
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wanting to queue beyond vault completion seems like masochism

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esp if you don't raid or anything

elder wigeon
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it's rough qing into a 4 set surv hunter that's performing a face transplant with no anesthesia on you

nimble jasper
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my butthole

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🙂

elder wigeon
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we love tier set we love tier set

sharp meteor
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aaaaaaaaa

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like i know it'll improve eventually when everybody has tied but

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imagine the avg player

pale minnow
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Rip

sand shadow
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worst I've had is 2pc assa in 2s so far

tough pewter
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how is fury in rbgs, have 4 p

spice hornet
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Sickening

wet scarab
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what stats are you guys using on your leggos these dayas

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going crit/haste and vers or crit and haste

sharp meteor
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probably playing a mixture of vers/haste and hastey/mastery on fury

latent mountain
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Is it true you can’t get gladiator in 2s right ?

spice hornet
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You cannot get gladiator in 2s

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Thankfully

jovial cedar
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Probably been asked a million times now but do you craft enduring blows on helm still since it’s a tier slot??

undone pumice
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enduring on belt

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unity on bracers feet or ring

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somebody pin one of these messages

jovial cedar
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Roger that, if I stay fury do I just keep unity on belt

undone pumice
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idk

jovial cedar
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Okay thanks

thin walrus
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What's the best Covenant for Fury.

lucid walrus
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probably fury

thin walrus
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doin to many 2s/3s fix that.

lucid walrus
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smexxin swears by venthyr fury but it seems like necro or kyrian are decent picks

jovial cedar
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Skill capped says kyrian same as arms for what it’s worth

thin walrus
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Is Signet of tormented kings great or bad idea

spice hornet
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Signet is good

jovial cedar
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I run it and I like it. I’m not glad or anything. The skill capped video that just came@out today says run it

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I can sometime eat people up with it

thin walrus
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Well i sub to skill capped and look for Fury warrior info they have really none.

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Check discord none

sharp meteor
jovial cedar
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@thin walrus check the video from today about all class covenant/legendary

wet scarab
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signet gives you the most mobility so you dont get rooted during recklessness

undone pumice
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ok but ur enrage can still get soothed

wet scarab
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I mean and your warbreaker can get disarmed

undone pumice
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yeah but

wet scarab
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your banner can get cycloned

undone pumice
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soothe has no cooldown

wet scarab
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at least you get enraged constantly

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with 2pc

undone pumice
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which means you get soothed constantly

wet scarab
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I do hope the rdruid I'm playing against spends his day soothing my enrage instead of healing

undone pumice
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1 gcd

warped warren
undone pumice
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no effective cooldown

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are u gonna tell me ignore pain has an important long cd

warped warren
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means it has leeway

undone pumice
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not a lot

warped warren
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enough

sand shadow
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you want Unity on one of the trash tier set items, since you only need 4/5

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so you get proper stats instead of crit haste

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so chest or legs

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gloves, chest, legs, one of these would be superior min-maxing

jaunty furnace
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How much versa do you guys have?

sand shadow
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38

jaunty furnace
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I have around that much and still get dunked on sometimes wtf

sand shadow
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yeah well, your DStance got halved

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it's profoundly felt

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dw, it'll get a bit better, once you get full stam gear

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the Renown stam amp can be felt then

undone pumice
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even pvers

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want it on ring or bracers

sand shadow
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so?

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Sorry, did not mean to come across as rude, sorry if I offended

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but this is PvP, not PvE

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Versa is still the go-to stat for Warrior

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and it's the worst stat for PvE, so drawing parallels between what PvErs want and what we want in PvP is not ideal

undone pumice
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pvers dont want vers

sand shadow
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exactly

undone pumice
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its garbage for them

sand shadow
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pvpers want it

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tahts what I said 🙂

undone pumice
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but they still want the versa head

jaunty furnace
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DH / Druid who do you go on?

undone pumice
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you want to keep the tier slots open

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because rng

sand shadow
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well, that's a whole different topic

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your gearing strategy RIGHT now

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will differ from what is optimal once the gearing craze is over in a month or so

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right now, you want Tier set asap

undone pumice
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yeah

sand shadow
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later on, you'd want your leggos preferably on Legs/Chest and Gloves

undone pumice
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so dont put it on tier just now

sand shadow
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because these 3 have no Versa

undone pumice
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ideally u replace the mastery ones tho

sand shadow
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yeah, chest is haste mastery

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but mastery is underrated, it's really not a bad stat

sand shadow
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but you lose if equal skill level

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you lose even if you're 20% better probably

undone pumice
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mastery is just not haste or crit

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thats why its worse

sand shadow
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?

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I played full crit, I played full haste, frankly, right now, I'd say a mix is BiS

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I think I'll go for 1.3 globals and put the rest in crit this time around

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since we'll have more stats going around this time

undone pumice
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50/50 haste crit

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is my pref

sand shadow
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idk, I tried extreme Haste stacking, and it didn't feel great at that price point (crit wise)

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1.3 globals is all I want

undone pumice
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so i can have a 5.2 or so mortal

sand shadow
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about 16% haste imo is more than sufficient

undone pumice
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yeah

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past 20% is detrimentak

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u can start to suffer at that point

sand shadow
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I tried 22% haste, the idea being that more haste, more MS, more Mortal Combo, more Enduring Blow

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unfortunately, it's arena, not a target dummy

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you're "wasting" the theoretical uptime

undone pumice
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you can

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start to ragestarve

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past 20

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so imo like 16-20 haste rest in crit

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maybe more crit if kyrian

sand shadow
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Ragestarving as ARms in arena is impossible

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even at 22% haste

undone pumice
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you can

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if things go very wrong

sand shadow
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I don't see how you'd ragestarve

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You must be doing something terribly, terribly, terribly wrong

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I mean, not you specifically, but for that to occur

undone pumice
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i dont ragestarve

sand shadow
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who does?

undone pumice
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but i see some ppl do ragestarve

sand shadow
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never seen that, can you link?

undone pumice
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like if u get very very few tactician procs

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and ppl keep cleansing hamstring

sand shadow
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o_O

undone pumice
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very rare but possible

sand shadow
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but if you are high haste you generate superb rage

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and the more rage you spend, the more tactician procs?

undone pumice
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if u dont get tac procs

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and just ms

sand shadow
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I'm sorry, that just doesn't make sense to me

undone pumice
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and ur autos arent critting cuz u have haste instead of crit

sand shadow
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You press MS regardless of tac procs, always, with superior priority

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unless target is, say, parrying or evasion etc

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so tac procs themselves do nothing to worsen your rage gen

undone pumice
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its a global

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spent not spebding rage

sand shadow
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sure

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just tested 3min on pvp dummy

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impossible to rage starve

elder wigeon
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weird, I feel more rage starved with less crit

undone pumice
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yep

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cuz ur spending more rage

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and getting less

sand shadow
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I have so much rage

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I am dumping into IP and Slams

elder wigeon
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more haste than 20% doesn't feel better personally

undone pumice
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idk

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just varies from person to person then ig

sand shadow
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yeah I agree, just illustrating that high haste = rage starvation = absolutely wrong

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even w/ 4.8sec MS it's not possible to ragestarve as Arms

undone pumice
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high haste = less rage tho

sand shadow
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is it?

undone pumice
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you have less crit

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less crit = less rage from crit autos

sand shadow
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if it is, what's the difference? are there sims?

elder wigeon
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more auto attacks = more rage, more crits = more rage

undone pumice
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you spend more rage

fierce elm
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Crit is generally more rage than haste albeit by not a lot

sand shadow
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you also auto attack more

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@fierce elm my suspicion as well

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w/o being a PvE player and not having seen sims

fierce elm
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It is confirmed by Archi way back

elder wigeon
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that's why half/half feels good

sand shadow
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i'm sure the guys over at #arms know

fierce elm
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That in terms of rage regen Crit > Haste

sand shadow
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yes, but is it by 5%? or 50%?

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😄

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that'd make quite the difference

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and as I said, I just personally tested it w/ extreme amounts of haste, and I simply do not see how I'd ever ragestarve

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If I have rage to throw on slams and IP, all is good

fierce elm
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You also get passive rage in pvp just by being hit

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I am constanlty funneling into IP just to not rage starve

sand shadow
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you mean overcap I guess

fierce elm
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y

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am on phone

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But you shouldnt starve unless you have 0% uptime

sand shadow
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I've never, ever, ever, in a single game out of thousands in SL, have come close to rage starving

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and by that I mean even remotely close to rage starving

elder wigeon
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I've rage starved plenty of times

sand shadow
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O_o

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that's odd AF

undone pumice
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this guy gets it

fierce elm
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When I was 25% crit I would ragestarve here and there

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But it was also tied to uptime

lucid walrus
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i run a little haste w/ my enduring sets so it doesn’t feel awful

sand shadow
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idk, the only way to feel like you're rage starved is to improperly press IP

lucid walrus
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i just try to work on dead gcds as opposed to worrying about rage starving

undone pumice
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u press IP off cd?

sand shadow
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no, ofc not

elder wigeon
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You have to 90% of games

undone pumice
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to not die

fierce elm
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right now you absolutely should

elder wigeon
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I don't feel rage starved when playing ret war, but I don't play it much, i most play warrior mage x atm

lucid walrus
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56% for a tac proc off IP ain’t bad esp considering you’re pressing it so often

fierce elm
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IP is literally part of rotation now

sand shadow
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it has been since SL start

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nothing has changed on that front

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absolutely nothing

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Dstance havling doesn't mean you suddenly need/want to press it more

undone pumice
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it does

fierce elm
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Means I want to sit less in dstance

undone pumice
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you take more dmg

fierce elm
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Compred to s1 and s2

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Which means funneling more rage into IP as to have some mitigation

sharp meteor
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I mean, you were already basically pressing it off cd. Can't press it too much more than that.

lucid walrus
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don’t feel like there was ever a big opportunity cost for IP except after early s1 when we went venthyr

fierce elm
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Compred to s1 and s2

sharp meteor
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Unless you're holding it to pre a go.

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Which was basically just vs rm

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actually eh ideal to align with any sort of go but couldn't really be inefificent about it

elder wigeon
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pre IP a RM go keks

sand shadow
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Sorry, I guess I hard-disagree here

undone pumice
sharp meteor
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i mean better than nothing

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and they have goes so frequently \

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not like they have much between

elder wigeon
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bro I'll pre banner a kidney blind from RM and still might have to trinket because 3 bombs cause fuck it

sand shadow
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What I meant by not pressing IP off GCD is simply to illustrate that you can make yourself "feel" rage starved momentarily, because you just ate your MS rage for a global or so

sharp meteor
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oh yeah for sure

sand shadow
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In that sense, pressing IP off CD is a mistake

lucid walrus
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ah yeah

sand shadow
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Pressing IP to eat your rage on a go where you need Exe/MS rage, even if available, is also a mistake

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so to simply say "press on CD" is wrong

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even though you obviously want to press it as much as possible

elder wigeon
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I think you're taking it too literally

sand shadow
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ah

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maybe 🙂

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yeah

sharp meteor
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I mean

sand shadow
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i'm sick AF rn and in a foul mood I guess

elder wigeon
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if 85% of the game you're pressing it off CD, that generally becomes the rule especially when you're getting ram ranched by a jungle with tier set

sharp meteor
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like obviously if you're trading favorably and it's better to slam during cds sure that's kind of a given but i mean just broardly/generally, it's the most efficient to just ip more or less off cd

lucid walrus
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certainly don’t think anyone disagrees that mashing IP during a kill window is a bad idea

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god i’m typing in tongues

sharp meteor
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namely if you're either in the grinder or their main target, just have to kind of send off cd

sand shadow
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true, but then you're passively generating a lot of rage

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ok, so I guess we got off topic

sharp meteor
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if you're bursting then don't always, and if you're holding it for a few seconds to try to align with a go or something then there's that as well

sand shadow
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this all started w/ @undone pumice talking about rage starvation as ARms

sharp meteor
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but nothing changed too much with dstance tweak

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usage should still be more or less the same

sand shadow
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it is the same

undone pumice
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this started when i said too much haste is bad

sand shadow
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^ yes, that

sharp meteor
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idk if it is hmm

sand shadow
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I want proof

sharp meteor
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i do think too many people think mastery is terrible tho

sand shadow
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I tested it on dummy w/o passive rage gen from getting attacked

sharp meteor
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and hard to figure out value of crit as it can swing so wildly

sand shadow
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and still had a fuckton of rage to spend

sharp meteor
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like last season crit got super good because kyrian empower or big spear goes

sand shadow
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crit is just so much more desirable since they lifted the crit dmg penalty in PvP

sharp meteor
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they just halved it

sand shadow
#

hm?

sharp meteor
#

but health pools low relative to damage

#

which makes it quite nice

#

bfa being 150% and high hp pools made for noodle fight, now it's 175% and nobody has health so everybody just 1-bangs eachother

#

idk if they needed both, it killed the lower end of the ladder because people just get slaughtered

sand shadow
#

been back-and-forth on my opinion on whether I prefered BFA or SL, both can feel terrible

#

I think BFA S1 had it kinda good

#

was not a slog fest

#

but burst wasn't retarded

fierce elm
#

I mean last season was a tossup between crit and haste

sharp meteor
#

i remember being executed from 80% by earth shock

#

and deciding to just take a bit of a break

fierce elm
#

because people figured out Spear bugs and didnt wanna gamble crits as much as necro with EB uptime

#

S1 Crit was just better in every way

sharp meteor
#

lot of people playing crit necro last season with retwarr or especially kitty

#

i played haste enduring turbo and it was okay-nice

sand shadow
#

I played full crit necro last ssn

#

never again

fierce elm
#

I mean if you cover a weakness with those yes

sharp meteor
#

sham was playing wolfbones so it was just throughput

sand shadow
#

2.5% haste is murder on your soul

sharp meteor
#

yep not a fan

fierce elm
#

But even then it was due to the gamble of it all

sharp meteor
#

we played full crit kyrian big spear + doom

#

and then full haste enduring with wolfbones

fierce elm
#

Im still calling turbo an s-tier comp and will be Arms go to comp dont @ me

sharp meteor
#

hmm possibly

elder wigeon
#

yeah turbo is top tier for sure, so is ret warrior

#

I think ret war is still arms best comp

sand shadow
#

which is fucking sad

#

give me caster/melee/healer meta any day

#

any fucking day

elder wigeon
#

play it

sand shadow
#

that is the way.

sharp meteor
#

i would like to play thunder if ele wasn't so prone to just dying

elder wigeon
#

I play warrior mage rn

sharp meteor
#

actually might queue with boomer afflock buddy

sand shadow
#

zug zug comps bore the fuck out of me

sharp meteor
#

i love queuing double healer

sand shadow
#

it's terrible that zugzugging is so good

undone pumice
#

warrior mage

elder wigeon
#

zug zug has been good forever man

sand shadow
#

never THIS good

sharp meteor
#

i mean rm is excellent jungle excellent triangle wizards rly good

elder wigeon
#

people just have a dogshit memory

sand shadow
#

it feels like

sharp meteor
#

am i fried

elder wigeon
#

yes it's always been THIS good

undone pumice
#

cosmic gladiators herp, derp and herpderp

#

somebody do it

elder wigeon
sand shadow
#

idk, I guess I remember stuff differently

sharp meteor
#

psure somebody already did itexcept it was like ozz xiuni and dopamine

sand shadow
#

back in the day, zugzugging wasn't even remotely the same

#

back then, stuff kited you

sharp meteor
#

uh

#

hm

sand shadow
#

now everyone and their mom has a gap closer

#

2 sprints

#

and a teleport

#

which lead to making casters fucking tanks

#

that only instant cast

undone pumice
#

i love when

#

i see a balanve druid with a disgusting fleshcraft

#

that unstealths and removes me from blizz servers

sand shadow
#

I am making a hunter murdering set for 2s

#

i'll let you know

#

last 3

#

got smashed the fuck out of the arena

elder wigeon
#

I mean, leaper with short leap, double charge, execute charge and warbringer should do the trick

sand shadow
#

fuckign huthners

elder wigeon
#

kekw

undone pumice
#

optionally venthyr with DS

#

zoomer

sand shadow
#

cant venthyr sadly

#

cuz most of the time its not hunters

undone pumice
#

but dhs?

sand shadow
#

? Venthyr sounds terrible vs DH

#

much rather necro his ass down

#

DH has like what... 20% passive magic DR innit?

undone pumice
#

yeah

#

thats what i mean

#

mostly its dhs not hunters that u see

sand shadow
#

oh

#

hm

sharp meteor
#

Does not feel good to condemn into that.

sand shadow
#

last 16 games 2s

#

EU

#

2 DHs

#

2 warrs

#

2 rogues

elder wigeon
#

DK is the worst thing to condemn into esp if they're spellwarding

sand shadow
#

1 wlock

#

3 hunters

#

3 ferals

#

1 monk

elder wigeon
#

condemn is just dead, which sucks, I really loved the condemn animation

undone pumice
#

condemn anim was bis

elder wigeon
#

yup, oh well though

undone pumice
#

time to play like smexxin venthyr fury

sharp meteor
#

condemn animation feels so poop as dw

#

like they legit just didn't add one

#

feels neat for 2h especially with sweep

elder wigeon
#

tbh necro kyrian and venth are good for fury

#

just whatever flavor you want

undone pumice
#

nightfae

sharp meteor
#

eh

elder wigeon
#

if I had to pick I'd probably play necro personally

#

especially if playing something like ret war or tsg

undone pumice
#

i like venth on fury because

#

pilav used to play it

#

pilav pepehands

sharp meteor
#

rage gen is rather high

elder wigeon
#

venthyr fury destroys my forearms

sharp meteor
#

yeah venthyr fury with 30% haste will be the end of me this season

elder wigeon
#

well just fury in general it's giga spam

sharp meteor
#

gonna go back to swing timer simulator arms

sand shadow
#

I remember needing a break after doing Fury M+ in BFA

#

because my hands would feel weak from spamming my kbd

sharp meteor
#

for me it was cata bdk and then wod enh wwhere i'm like aight this pain isn't gonna stop

#

gotta make some changes

undone pumice
#

i remember in bfa i used to play fury in keys

#

and quake while waiting in lfg

#

so my arms just died

sharp meteor
#

like obivously i get not wanting to only press a button every 5 seconds but i feel like too many people fall for the high apm meme

undone pumice
#

big ouchie

#

high apm = easier spec doe

sand shadow
#

fury pve is garbage anyway

#

you press 10000 gcds per minute

#

and it makes little difference if you press the wrong stuff

undone pumice
#

yeah

#

same with any high haste spec

sand shadow
#

idk I don't pve much or at all usually

#

but when I did M+ tryharding in S1

#

the difference between a mage that knows how to combust, and one that doesn't

#

was insane

#

you can feel it in arena too btw

sharp meteor
#

i like when they bust immediately but don't send blasts/pyros and immediately swap to a teammate if they use in response to combust

#

and if you take a moment too long to identify go then you just get vaporized

warped warren
warped warren
carmine flicker
#

for kyr arms: EB on belt and unity on ring?

elder wigeon
#

yes EB on belt, unity wherever you like, preferrably not on tier slots, slots that don't occupy other legendary non-tier set slots is also preferred, popular choice being wrist, boots, ring

lucid walrus
#

wrist can have socket yeah?

#

thinking about pulling the trigger on my EB recraft now but i’ll be behind on rep

fierce elm
#

Hey man kyr arms eb on belt and unity on ring

elder wigeon
#

no real point in recrafting this second

lucid walrus
#

also true

#

i have a conq belt from vault anyhow so it’s semi-shooting myself in the foot

#

impulsive “man i want +3-4 ilvl”

carmine flicker
#

thank you

compact pelican
#

how do we deal with dh / resto

warped warren
elder wigeon
lucid walrus
undone pumice
quasi zephyr
#

Hey guys we using tier as arms arena even though tier pieces are fixed stats?

undone pumice
#

yes

#

head one of best

quasi zephyr
#

Thnx

raw summit
frank knoll
#

Hey how do i get the 110% ms as fury

raw summit
#

u dont

fickle forge
#

Only Ndogo could accomplish that

undone pumice
#

ndogo my beloved

#

return

#

pls

thick reef
#

hey on burst to i swap to normal stance?

raw summit
#

yes

jaunty furnace
#

Why are 90% of matches vsing hunters in 2s

#

Games so bad lmao

tough compass
#

Because hunter is free rating with barely any effort, so people gotta abuse that

undone pumice
#

i love getting dinged through parry in half a second

quasi zephyr
#

So is there a 291
Leggo we should be crafting now? Or what should I be doing lol

undone pumice
#

playing pvp probably or m+ or raid for tierset

#

EB on belt

jaunty furnace
#

Which soulbind do you use as Kyrian?

undone pumice
#

mikakakkanioskos

quasi zephyr
#

Isn’t Elysian might going on belt next week

undone pumice
#

no

#

u cant upgrade the free belt
the free belt has bad stats
its a shit slot

raw summit
#

u recaft unity

#

and then ur em is wherever

quasi zephyr
#

Didn’t realize the girdle was set stat

fierce elm
#

Hey guys what slot unity

undone pumice
#

somebody make a pin

#

please

fierce elm
#

lmao

#

They wont look at that

undone pumice
#

afro

quasi zephyr
#

I know right

undone pumice
#

we have

quasi zephyr
#

I checked pins

undone pumice
fierce elm
#

if they can look at it then they can use the search function

raw summit
#

ring

fierce elm
#

Just be a chad and dont recraft it

undone pumice
#

technology

fierce elm
#

Im not gonna recraft it i cba

undone pumice
#

im gonna craft it on chest

raw summit
#

???

fierce elm
#

gonna craft it on trinket

undone pumice
#

and eb on head

fierce elm
#

fuck tier set

raw summit
#

how u gonna get 4p then

undone pumice
#

all my homies hate tier set

#

im nkt

fierce elm
#

Yeah fuck tier

raw summit
#

if ur a gamer like me u alr have 2p

undone pumice
#

stfu

#

i have

#

0 pc

#

bis

fierce elm
#

I have gotten wrists and neck from vault so gar

#

big poggies

raw summit
#

haste vers socket tier helm 🤤

undone pumice
#

i got dinged by a hunter eith 4pc in a bg

#

i got ring and feet

fierce elm
#

lmao

raw summit
#

thats good

fierce elm
#

big poggies

undone pumice
#

real chads simply

#

use shield and 1h

#

with 0pc

fierce elm
#

exactly

#

Gonna optimize my leggo placement just to be hardstuck duelist

raw summit
#

50k shieldslam

undone pumice
#

no but

#

as arms

raw summit
#

if u do that later today im unfriending u

undone pumice
#

so ur shield slam deals negative damage

fierce elm
#

lmao

undone pumice
#

i dont even have prot gear kekw

fierce elm
#

Shield 1 hand as fury is the big brain play lets be real

undone pumice
#

single minded fury

raw summit
#

imma go eat try finush this shit and then we can q

undone pumice
#

my beloved tech

fierce elm
#

single brain cell fury

raw summit
#

prolly gonna do dailies and some torg slavery on dk

undone pumice
#

hidden super speed

#

single brain cell double 1h
venthyr with ds
warbringer
banner
bounding
double time

fierce elm
#

kek

undone pumice
#

oh wait its fury

#

replace warbringer with barbarian

#

and leaper leggo

#

zoooom

lucid walrus
#

hey guys what slot for unity

undone pumice
#

hey man eb belt ring unity

fierce elm
#

hey man what slot tier

raw summit
#

ring trinket weapon and cape

#

if ur good

undone pumice
undone pumice
#

challenger II*****

fierce elm
#

hey guys what spec for challenger 2 gameplay

wispy cedar
#

arms

undone pumice
#

2 handed prot warrior

hard vector
#

what do i take? 😄

raw summit
#

Ull get them all at some point

#

Imo aegis first

hard vector
#

okok

sharp meteor
#

Aegis is priority pick. The quest is weekly, so you'll get them all eventually, or at least the ones you want.

#

Devouring might have potential into absorbs, resonator with spear, echoing into certain matchups, maybe.

thick reef
#

so with spear reso?

sharp meteor
#

I'd still play badge/insignia, but if you can get isolated spears/resos then it's decent, at least right now, sure.

thick reef
#

I am stuck on 1300 cr

sharp meteor
#

Then just play insignia or macro badge to spear.

#

Aegis as another defensive into magic teams.

thick reef
#

I was 2.1k in last season but this season i struggle hard but i was also playing WW

#

but i play also with heal monk

distant warren
#

what is best soulbind for kyrian arms?

#

not in the pins ^^

undone pumice
#

mika

distant warren
#

new pvp trinket is on gcd?

#

I wonder if it can be use in combo with spear

undone pumice
#

it can be macrod together

radiant oasis
#

anyone else's gladius out of date?

#

is there a replacement addon?

sharp meteor
#

have u tried updating it lol

quasi lotus
#

Use gladiusex or sarena

#

Og gladius is boomer now

radiant oasis
#

yeah used gladiusex

#

og gladius hasnt been updated since 2021

distant warren
#

still works for me

hushed plank
#

What weak aura y’all running for the new trinket that you stun/ interupt then there immune to the next ? Gladiusex doesn’t show

buoyant shale
#

whats the best new trink for warriors? is it the bomb or the magic shield one?

sharp meteor
#

aegis

hushed plank
#

Ty !

sand shadow
#

insignia, badge, resonator, aegis, BM

#

all good

nimble jasper
#

@sharp meteor dh players

#

following me when i have full cds behind pillar without trinket

sharp meteor
#

dander Right?

nimble jasper
#

was getting rat monk a box maybe

#

he incaps me on my spin

#

and dies to images spinning

#

class is boring overall havent really q’ed it this season

final belfry
#

Hey guys, coming back to pvp! Quick questions is ret/warrior/x still good to push? Still binded to necro for that comp? Cheers

sharp meteor
#

Yes, it's quite good. Necro and Kyrian are both fine for it.

spice hornet
#

aiden goes loses AWC then logs in to play 2v2 arena immediately

sharp meteor
#

step out to fix a snack and palumor gets bodied 0-3 in like 5 minutes huh

near delta
#

Lmao

#

Gonna be interesting to see how they do vs GG or Liquid.

sharp meteor
#

i remember queuing into him a bunch and he'd awlays feed

#

check back later and he somehow got 3.5k

#

idk what to make of that

near delta
#

🤔

nimble jasper
#

kalvish's rmp is just better

#

expected outcome tbh

near delta
#

Yep

spice hornet
frank knoll
#

If I lived in the EU I couldn’t imagine not being a football hooligan

near delta
#

Kubzy on the bench kinda rough

lucid walrus
#

c9 swept. tough scene

near delta
#

Oooof

spice hornet
#

all these warriors getting annihilated

lofty lion
#

its sad to see

sharp meteor
#

mes killed in the opener by people who just started playing so leg

#

warr op hits for 40k execute

fickle forge
sharp meteor
frank knoll
#

Wow they need to buff RMP

spice hornet
#

drain life afflic locks running resolve is broken

elder wigeon
#

no kidding

#

sharpened a lock at 50% chunked him to 2%, drain lifes to full with a 20k vitality tick through sharpen

warped warren
#

yeah

#

not good enough

#

buff pls

frank knoll
#

Pika just lost kek

rugged leaf
#

how's fury this season, just re subbed heard its good

sharp meteor
#

decent-good?

#

curious as to how it looks with tier and full gear

spice hornet
#

ive already ran into 2 diff fury warriors with 4 pc

#

kekw

jaunty furnace
#

4pc necro fury will pump

spice hornet
#

its a lot of dmg but nothing like sepsis 4pc assass

elder wigeon
#

fury in certain scenarios is better than arms, especially so if you're playing something like TSG however, arms is generally better currently

spice hornet
#

be me on my healer, a get mindgames with flame shock and UA on me

#

UA dispel htis 40k, control of lava double hits for 17k each

#

nice

sharp meteor
#

heck i have 1 piece

clever fern
#

ring+belt for next week legendaries, r? unity and EB?

spice hornet
#

whil;e some have 0

#

literally at a 20% disadvantage for existing

near delta
#

I've been raiding and maxing vault slots every week with one tier piece to my name lol

elder wigeon
#

I'd love to normal raid but you gotta be a graduate of a ivy league school and a mensa membership to get in these pugs

jaunty furnace
#

Someone tell me how a warrior just got 3 30+k executes in a row

#

This game

elder wigeon
#

lottery and every cd up

#

specifically necrolord

jaunty furnace
#

Yeah he was Necro

elder wigeon
#

mmhm only covenant that can do that really

wheat jay
#

Because its fair and balanced

#

Clearly

jaunty furnace
#

What soulbind do you use as necro

spice hornet
#

woo frost mages everywhere abusing resolve doing 15k single target dps

elder wigeon
quaint snow
#

whats resolve?!

elder wigeon
#

echoing resolve trinket

quaint snow
#

ahh thanks, another op shizzle?

#

im tired

wet scarab
elder wigeon
#

Nah alliance is dead until 925 sorry man

wet scarab
#

Hah

#

Come to the light

elder wigeon
#

I would if it was worth it

#

I'm not gonna go alliance to go raid but to never use it in pvp because alliance pvp is dead

wet scarab
#

The prophecy MUST be fulfilled

elder wigeon
#

I wanna go alliance to play human but it's a dead faction and blizzard killed it

wet scarab
#

It’s fine so far this tier tbh

#

But yeah 925 will be great

elder wigeon
#

I don't play the game to raid I play to pvp it's just you need to raid to stay current in this season

#

i can't pvp if I'm alliance rn

wet scarab
#

Warrior really is the best class this tier, whether fury or arms,you can easily put a few friends together and clear at least until anduin

#

And most LFG will 100% want you purely for that and ilvl

#

Raid is super entertaining too, fun to play through once in a while for the sake of it

elder wigeon
#

you'd be surprised

#

every single group auto declines because I haven't cleared the raid yet

#

literally will flex my arena xp, glads, mythic prog from season 1 but none of it matters, all that matters is "have you cleared the raid"

#

all for a fucking normal raid lmao

wet scarab
#

Man people are fucking sociopaths

elder wigeon
#

I will top dps in pvp gear, they're all fucked in the head

wet scarab
#

Well, our offer stands if you want to switch in the early season, we are always drunk during raids

sharp meteor
#

got removed from two yolos now for being fury/venth

#

my head is broken

wet scarab
#

People are so dumb with the meta bullshit when most of them will never compete at levels close to where it makes a difference

#

And this sort of stuff filters down to them in stages lol

near delta
#

Finally tried out blood rage

#

It's stupid into hunters

sage raptor
#

They're never really yolos

frank knoll
#

DHs are really complaining about their damage because they don’t have a 1 shot button…

smoky tapir
#

is there a way to make bigdebuffs not show in open world?

twilit ridge
#

With high expectations and requirements when they literally do the worst

elder wigeon
#

No it's pretty dead, overwhelming majority of the pvp ladder is horde

twilit ridge
#

the normal group demanding CE/Aotc will have a leader that dies and hopes the raid yolo kills

#

Most are horde

#

But I pugged/no voice glad on ally

#

Painful

#

Like ally is mostly dead but there's few good players around I think would be a good way to put it

elder wigeon
#

I'm trying to get r1 either this season or next season

twilit ridge
#

like for ally you have to know good people otherwise you're fucked cuz everyone is entitled and toxic

elder wigeon
#

glad is not on my radar, alliance is dead for me, as someone with limited options already on horde

twilit ridge
#

Just stay horde

elder wigeon
#

that's my point

twilit ridge
#

Ye

#

I was just saying stuff is still possible just annoying af on ally

elder wigeon
#

I'm likely going alliance with 925 or with 10.0 because group restrictions are gone

twilit ridge
#

I forgot about that ngl

elder wigeon
#

a LOT of top players will go alliance because of that

twilit ridge
#

My favorite thing was how long it took alliance to finish Hall of fame or CE lmao

elder wigeon
#

alliance is better than horde in most situations for pvp

twilit ridge
#

I like being human

#

It's the only reason I stayed

elder wigeon
#

as do I

undone pumice
#

alliance has better racials for melee dps in m+ too imo

#

shadowmeld is bussin bussin

elder wigeon
#

I want relentless as human

undone pumice
#

same

twilit ridge
elder wigeon
#

it's free rating

twilit ridge
#

Being able to reflect sheeps out of DB

undone pumice
#

humans just fit on armor so much better than orcs

elder wigeon
#

you sorta can't anymore

#

especially now

#

mages have 30% haste

twilit ridge
#

ah I haven't played since last season

undone pumice
#

humans are fucking broken

twilit ridge
#

I just used that as the closest example I could think of

#

Human master race

elder wigeon
#

yeah when haste is low or a mage doesn't have PI, they can't start the go on you with a DB sheep

#

that's the thing I hate about RMP the most

undone pumice
#

u can have one of these
2 dps trinkets
1 dps, 1 defense trinket
relentless
2 trinkets with 30s shared cd

twilit ridge
#

I ran relent and badge

undone pumice
#

seems really broken

elder wigeon
#

you can't outplay or use your utility when the go starts with you db sheeped

#

can't pre-disarm a dance, or pre-intervene another kill target, pre-banner, etc

undone pumice
#

u cant outplay an rmp unless they make a mistake is ehat it boils down to imo

elder wigeon
#

sorta

undone pumice
#

they just have

#

more buttons

elder wigeon
#

you can outplay the fuck out of them if they can't db sheep you first

undone pumice
#

in exchange for zero, count it, zero sustained dmt

elder wigeon
#

db sheep is what makes fire so OP and RMP brain dead

undone pumice
#

is rmps obky weakness rlly just no sustained dmg

elder wigeon
#

not really a weakness if they don't need it

undone pumice
#

yeah but

elder wigeon
#

they have more goes than you have CD's

undone pumice
#

is it the onky thing they really lack vs other comps

elder wigeon
#

basically 1/4 goes you have to shut down without a trinket to stay even

#

if you have perfect trades with 1 trinket per-go

undone pumice
#

you lose

#

lets say u are ret warr

elder wigeon
#

you can win, you just have to shit down their throat, and preferably have a mage on your team

undone pumice
#

u have banner, dbts, rally, bubble, melee bubble, intervene, disarm as ur main defensives right

elder wigeon
#

my mage double blinked in to living bomb the invis and I just stun and speared and popped every cd, got caut and block off the rip

#

I just feel so safe vs rmp when i have a mage

undone pumice
#

idk

#

it seems every week a different war comp is good

elder wigeon
#

warrior mage is still alright

undone pumice
#

but like

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very recentky u said it was meh

elder wigeon
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alright = meh

undone pumice
elder wigeon
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WW mage is still cracked

undone pumice
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wtf bro

elder wigeon
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?? you see the awc?

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ww mage still farms

undone pumice
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i dont see the awx

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i would like to refraij from eye cancer a while longer

elder wigeon
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in tournament format, WW mage is probably one of the best comps still

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on ladder? it's good, not insane

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as far as I could see, every warrior comp got dicked

undone pumice
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how many warriors were used in awc

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that didnt losr

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so far

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2 or 3?

elder wigeon
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a few yeah

undone pumice
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and how many rogues mages and hpriests

elder wigeon
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good question

undone pumice
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every game at least 2 of those right

elder wigeon
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someone will make a breakdown of awc comps soon

wicked bison
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whats best fury setup for pvp right now

undone pumice
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reck defense / deathmaker / signet / sephuz

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any cov outside of NF

near delta
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That ret/warr team with 2 warriors was hilarious

sharp meteor
jaunty furnace
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Is it good

undone pumice
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should be good by 4pc and 2 cov

elfin surge
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Fury is rly good rn even without tier

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feels very strong

sharp meteor
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ya seemed interesting

undone pumice
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with tier it will be 10000x better

sharp meteor
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partners took break and have been busy so only just queued and venth felt nice

undone pumice
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random reck procs and 3 charges of rb

elfin surge
sharp meteor
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just got domed by petkick im so sad

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why does dhdk do like 20k dps for the first minute

jaunty furnace
sharp meteor
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just in general seems nice

elfin surge
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I play fury in both 2s & 3s rn

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Necrolord too

sharp meteor
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although 2s feels like hunter bracket

elfin surge
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That's why I play Fury/Feral in 2s

sharp meteor
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yeah seems like the most enjoyable way