pvp

[wet scarab]

this game is fucking bullshit

lost 3 games in a row to a DH hpriest because the hpriest ressed

it's a 1 shot lol

not a go

such a rollercoaster

killed an afflock and life is good again

[spice hornet]

surprpised u could kill one

mustve not been cheesing resolve with drain life leggo

[wet scarab]

it was pretty messy

didnt take chances and lined every dark soul

and played with the magic absorb trinket

and shatter talent

lots of spell reflects and kicks on soulrot and malefic rapture

still nearly died about 5 times

[spice hornet]

Nice

[wet scarab]

yeah the shaman I was playing with was pog

too bad it seems their tier set is shit

[jaunty furnace]

what healer should warrior play with

[spice hornet]

hpriest or dont

[fierce elm]

hpriest like everyone else lmao

[jaunty furnace]

XD

[quaint snow]

yeah man i got the big boy sword in vault ❤️

[wet scarab]

I miss my mistweaver who decided to main priest this season

[undone pumice]

what are the priest cds

[wet scarab]

doesn't matter they just heal like jesus throughout

[undone pumice]

i want to know for my omnibar

[wet scarab]

holy word serenity has 2 charges

apotheosis

their ascendance thing

apotheosis resets the cd of serenity

also fear, holy ward

mind games

chastise

[undone pumice]

i cant find

serentieis

[nimble jasper]

guardian spirit

[wet scarab]

holy word serenity

with a colon

holy word: serenity

and symbol of hope for mana regen but they never need that lmao

hard to track holy word because it changes based on how you heal

[undone pumice]

how many charges does it have

[wet scarab]

so they get 2 charges, apotheosis resets it

and flash heal reduces the cd

[undone pumice]

so it itself has 1

does omnibar take that into accout

or do i have to do the unspeakable think

[wet scarab]

pvp talent gives it 2 charges

but the original pve spell only has 1 yeah

[undone pumice]

so

do i put it as

2 charges

?

[iron basalt]

Hi all — I just want to say that venthyr arms pumps. I’m using EB with it.

[nimble jasper]

big things to watch are mostly gfade

and guardian spirit

[ancient sonnet]

Is there a reliable pvp guide for fury that you'd recommend?

[elfin surge]

warrior is D tier

[wet scarab]

there isn't really a guide, you could try looking at the ones close to the top of the ladder to see their overall approach and rejig to fit your playstyle

the pvp talent options are kinda limited, too little space to mess around with them except when you really really want to take disarm

[honest sedge]

Is the best way of upgrading gear to get the smaller pieces first and gamble for the more expensive from vault or?

[nimble jasper]

not reliable

but if you’re lucky its the fastest

[ancient sonnet]

should buy wep this week if you didn't get from vault

[nimble jasper]

wep is big dam

unless you’re on a piss low rated alt barely getting games for any rating

[honest sedge]

i got wep this week

[spice hornet]

frost mage is so horribly designed

[nimble jasper]

all 3 mage specs are

[shy aurora]

I feel like everything die so fucking fast this patch like wtf

[nimble jasper]

ehh pace feels slower imo

since the vers change

[elfin surge]

@mystic barn

[mystic barn]

omg

[elfin surge]

i saw it

[fierce elm]

@elfin surge

notice me big streamer man pls gief attention

[mystic barn]

@elfin surge

[fierce elm]

I follow your monster journey daily

you never answer my snaps

[elfin surge]

peasant.

[fierce elm]

bro famous r1 streamer warrior 1800xp flaming me

smh

[vapid yoke]

arms: should I be buying all of the +Crit/+Vers pvp gear, or throw some haste into the mix?

[fierce elm]

mastery

[quaint snow]

20% Crit 10% Haste Rest Versa is what i read at some point i think, but someone correct me pls

[spice hornet]

there are so many rogues who keep trying to cheese one dance holy shit

dont even have to play one dance

[fierce elm]

Just go vers > crit/haste

and dont try to hit certain %

[thick reef]

should we still use ds tance or bounding stride

d stance

[undone pumice]

dstance

[shadow pollen]

is every1 putting enduring blow on belt now

with tierpiece head

[spice hornet]

yes

and unity ring

[wet scarab]

or if you're a whale make it for head until you get your head tier piece and then recraft \o/

pay 2 win baby

[shadow pollen]

real

[wet scarab]

it's cheap enough now that it doesn't really matter, they're not 400k like they were on day 1

on Stormrage most leggo 291 base items are around 40k

[thick reef]

ty

[pale minnow]

Omfg rm 2v2 killed me with bombs on 3rd go under 1 kidney wtf is the counterplay even? I trinket sb my rshamman trinketed comb 2nd go then 3rd go if i don't make a perfect bs predict i'm dead

[nimble jasper]

did you even need to trinket first go

sounds like they didnt commit anything

[pale minnow]

Ye or else I'm dead

[nimble jasper]

to what

if no bust

or bombs

[pale minnow]

Rogue sb

[nimble jasper]

blades itself isnt a threatening cd

?

[pale minnow]

??????

U nuts or something?

[nimble jasper]

its the kyrian ability

that actually makes them do damage

or venthyr

[pale minnow]

He literally used sb, bd + kyrian at first go

[nimble jasper]

yeah but blades itself

is barely a cd

prob have to pre one of the goes

[pale minnow]

Dude there are situation he don't even need sb to killbme let alone use everything

[nimble jasper]

either you or sham

[spice hornet]

the key to beating rm 2s is to not play 2s

kekw

[nimble jasper]

psure you need at least kyrian to get close to killing orcs without mage help

[pale minnow]

I ain't orc

[nimble jasper]

[pale minnow]

So psure i die like shitnunder one kidney without healer or deffenses

[nimble jasper]

pre something

idk alot of rms are super predictable

[pale minnow]

Ye right, try your best then above 2k with a warrior

[nimble jasper]

i mean sham can htt a go cant he

[pale minnow]

Start season noone is dumb at 2k as in prev end season

Everyone knows their shit

[nimble jasper]

idk doesnt sound so bad with an rsham

its not like playing ww healer which just gets eaten by rm

[pale minnow]

Yet ww is in 2.4 on 2v2 brackets and warr isn't

[nimble jasper]

psure you literally need to pre use something from either player

to live 3 goes into rogue mage

as majority of comps

[spice hornet]

u also wont beat good rogue mages without aegis

[pale minnow]

I pre bannered 2nd go with a banner u think was enough? When mage was combusting?

[spice hornet]

they can just kill you in a kidney poly and bomb

kekw

[nimble jasper]

aegis yeah

ww healer is worse into rogue mage tho

you actually have to troll to lose as rm into wws

[spice hornet]

yeah ww just gets bullied

[nimble jasper]

i memba last season

[tough compass]

if you have to trinket the first go as warr, you will die in a duel. RM is just busted in 2s

[nimble jasper]

still almost die through pre wall bm

pre aegis as orc can maybe let you live

can bank on rogue is a donkey and gaps his stun

[pale minnow]

I survived smoke and duel but after i got a double bomb kidney and gg

Without pre you can't do shit

[nimble jasper]

i mean you need to pre vs rogue mage

as almost every comp

[raw summit]

do i take disarm into surv

[pale minnow]

Ye

Use it on coordinated + eagle

[raw summit]

aight

we were giga struggling into it recently

[nimble jasper]

surv should still farm like

every dps healer in 2s

[raw summit]

it almost does me and my mw

but rando necro crit exe

sometimes saves it

[nimble jasper]

realistically you should never beat surv rdruid

if they have their hands on keyboard

[raw summit]

surv hpriest

also omega annoying

[nimble jasper]

idk if surv hpriest is better now

might be with how hpriest is overtuned

[novel basalt]

anyone have a indepth guide for arms warrior for szn 3?

[mortal wyvern]

some1 help me arms war necro 291ilv 2nd lego

[spice hornet]

what do you think wouldbe diff from s2

@mortal wyvern enduring blow / NL leggo

7 different rogues today playing venthyr one dance build

get your trinket on warrior with 2 bombs, blades,smokebomb, bust

then just solo u in the duel with his bomb

not even playing oen dance

[novel basalt]

@spice hornet hmmm, double leggo, change in the meta, nerfs to class, tier set, new arena maps, cov swapping

I mean dafuk

[nimble jasper]

wdym

double lego isnt in till next week

cov you just play necro or kyrian depending on comp

[spice hornet]

youll probably be playing your cov leggo and EB as both kyrian and NL and maybe misshapen or meme someone with unhinged

[nimble jasper]

dstance nerf means sit d less

[elder wigeon]

fuck misshapen against anything other than rmp

[nimble jasper]

altho they should have nerfed somethjng else

how dstance got hit but ignore pain didnt

is mind boggling

[elder wigeon]

we can go in circles all day about how it was a bad decision

[pale minnow]

Khmmm hunters

[elder wigeon]

in 3's no chance

in 2's sure but fuck 2's

[nimble jasper]

beating hunters in 2s

kekw

nice meme

[pale minnow]

And reflecting a mg is dope too

[elder wigeon]

eh whatever

good luck

you're the kill target anyways what mindgames are you gonna reflect for someone else?

[pale minnow]

My point... you reflect trap on healer and mg from u

[elder wigeon]

this isn't 1200 rating where people just mindgames into a reflect that's been up for 3 seconds

[raw summit]

should a healer dispell the thingy into surv btw

the green arrow icon dot

[pale minnow]

Well and u aren't 1.2 mentallity to reflect at the cast start

[elder wigeon]

you reflect at the last 95%

[pale minnow]

Ye

Wich will be hard to dispell 2 things at the same time

[elder wigeon]

you can't have your cake and eat it too with mirror, either it's for someone else or don't run it

you're either chastise stunned or intim stunned, you can't reflect for your healer in both those cases

[pale minnow]

U play 15s cc immune trinket

[elder wigeon]

how is that going to help you? you'll sit 4 second chastise stuns with no out

[wheat jay]

The one where they stun your healer then harpoon and trap anyway cuz harpoon procs removes the buff

?

[elder wigeon]

you can also kick it off lol

[wheat jay]

Iirc interrupt works too

Ye I did it yesterday xD

Man was sitting in 15s of cc

6s stun into 9s trap LMAO

Poor hpriest

[elder wigeon]

yeah the trinket is dogshit for anything other than wizard cleaves imho

[wheat jay]

Ye

[elder wigeon]

specifically locks and mages

[wheat jay]

Maybe against rogue

It might be fine

[elder wigeon]

nah rogues can cheap it off

[wheat jay]

But overall its bad

[elder wigeon]

there's no cd

[wheat jay]

Oh true

Ye so its shit xD

[elder wigeon]

kidney -> cheap -> cheap

it's dogshit

[pale minnow]

Do u get dr at least if he cheaps the trinket?

[elder wigeon]

no

[wheat jay]

No

[pale minnow]

Sucks dick

[elder wigeon]

exactly

[wheat jay]

CC just doesnt happen

[nimble jasper]

that trinket is cringe

and bad design

[wheat jay]

It is

[nimble jasper]

only benefits ape ass wizard cleaves

[pale minnow]

Vs warriors tho is gucci

[wheat jay]

Is it?

[pale minnow]

Never getting bolted

[elder wigeon]

warriors are fucked in 2's, it's a waste of time unless fury ascends beyond our comprehension with tier set and double lego and full gear

[wheat jay]

You are

What else is gonna proc it?

[elder wigeon]

charge

[wheat jay]

Just stun into charge

[elder wigeon]

yeah

[wheat jay]

Rather than charge into stun

Its that simple

Lmao

[elder wigeon]

I stun into charge into kick on wizards

they get fucked every time

[wheat jay]

Hah

[elder wigeon]

20% longer stun, 20% longer kick

doesn't mean I'm not taking unhealable damage from a demo lock and frost mage tho

[wheat jay]

Met one Frost this season lmao

Also my last like 10 games were 6 rogues with priest

I somehow won them all

[nimble jasper]

in b4 all the casters just run into

[wheat jay]

But shit's so tryhard its unbelievable

[nimble jasper]

rogue playing deeper strat kidney

with resolve on

and just sit 8sec kidneys

[wheat jay]

Id never expect games at 2.1k mmr to be so hard

[nimble jasper]

i do feel like kyrian hpriest might take over at least in 2s

over venthyr

[spice hornet]

boon

sephuz

kekw

[nimble jasper]

esp since the venthyr lego

looks ass

[wheat jay]

It will

[nimble jasper]

surprised at the lack of monks tho

ww dam still cranks it seems

[spice hornet]

Frost dk is doing a ridiculous amount of dmg

like holy fuck

[wheat jay]

I met a shitton of monks

Once died in 30s

Roar+wall, down to 10% in 2s

Turtle

Full healed

Down to 10% again

Ns from druid, 100%

[nimble jasper]

do they run kyrian or necro

[wheat jay]

Died in the next 3s

[nimble jasper]

i swear necro is still better

[wheat jay]

Necro

[nimble jasper]

1min goes

[wheat jay]

I havent seen a single kyrian monk

Also seen some double dps games

Outhealing everything on the planet...

[elder wigeon]

kyrian may be more popular as tier set is more common and double lego

[nimble jasper]

last season it was just leoww

and ilovemybros from blazingb

playing kyr

[spice hornet]

theyre gone kwkw

i wonder how many times they ran into each other

[nimble jasper]

leoww last season

[spice hornet]

leoww was worse

[nimble jasper]

ran at my 40khp rsham

pved him down despite his hpal got grounded on hoj 6 times

: )

idk all the monk legos looked ass

for the cov ones

[spice hornet]

8 rogues now

running builds where they cheese u in duel with resonators

as venthyr

[elder wigeon]

quit playing 2's and your problems will go away

[nimble jasper]

venthyr resonator shit

is so cringe

[wheat jay]

Need that easy not so easy duelist xD

[spice hornet]

aaaa i see they nerf that mage conduit for the barrier healing

wonder if theyll look at drain life healing

[wheat jay]

Drain life dmg maybe?

Fuck healing from it

They kill everyone in 2 seconds with it

[spice hornet]

ya its ticking 7ks

every .5 sec

[wheat jay]

Yep

2s is 28k+

And then there's other dots

And they can't dispel

Cuz unstable kills healers xD

[nimble jasper]

i do find it funny

the guy who started the venthyr onedance duel shit

doesnt even play it anymore

[spice hornet]

kekw

they dont even run one dance talent anymore

they dont have to

the dmg is enough already

[nimble jasper]

you dont even need venthyr

[elder wigeon]

they can solve this duel 1 shot shit by nerfing the damage done in duel by 50%

[nimble jasper]

psure kalvish just plays sub enh with hots

as kyrian

[spice hornet]

i like when i got him to 500 hp in opener and the enh healed him for 45k surge

[late hamlet]

Hey guys, is fury aby good in pvp? I love the spec but its traditionally not been great in arena

[sharp meteor]

ya fury is fine

[nimble jasper]

the eu rogues that play sub ww

so play venthyr but not duel cheese

iirc

[wheat jay]

Havent seen sub ww yet lol

[late hamlet]

Okay cool, what is the playstyle like, same as Arms, constant pressure + utility?

[wheat jay]

I believe id kill monk before they could get 2nd go lol

[candid veldt]

any turbo guides? every one i find is just zugzug and i would like to know a bit more lmao

[sharp meteor]

bolt kill target off cd

[nimble jasper]

I mean thats turbo

[sharp meteor]

if healer can cc enemy healer then that's cool if not it's w/e

[nimble jasper]

idk what you expect

xd

[sharp meteor]

just make sure sham can whack them during bolt

[nimble jasper]

less utility

fury is honestly a bad dh

[sharp meteor]

u have disarm and vene still, just not banner

[nimble jasper]

no sharpen tho

[pale minnow]

Shamman could hex healer as well after a chastise into fear after

[sharp meteor]

lot of haste means good slaughter uptime

not as on-demand but eh

[nimble jasper]

yeah i dont think spec’s bad just

it fills dh role worse it seems

[wet scarab]

only spec I played that matches DH overall dmg has been fury

I'm just as likely to kill them on either spec

[pale minnow]

[wet scarab]

it's just a lot more consistent pressure, I don't get the big necro crits but if that's the comparison

fury is really good against those mobile classes we struggle with

[pale minnow]

What cr, 500-1600? I can believe this there

[wet scarab]

1700-1800

[pale minnow]

Same shiet

[wet scarab]

ok chadlord

why were people saying you should only run mirror into RM? I've gotten a lot more use of it in games against resto druids and other caster comps. Is it not good to use it there?

healer basically wasn't cc'ed for most of the game

[pale minnow]

U are outplayed with a blur every go you make and he just sits on your healer and cleaves you both down to nothing

[wet scarab]

why are you going DH if he's going after your healer in 2s

most healers can't heal through immolation aura cleaves

[pale minnow]

Because you won't catch a druid without spear

[wet scarab]

as fury if you play reckless abandon and signet you can pop recklessness and have infinite charge after the druid

every raging blow charges to the target

that's how I've killed most of the druids I played against at that rating

if you have 2 pc that's endless raging blows as well

[pale minnow]

Great, when you'll face a druid who has his hands on the keyboard you'll be vortexed, tranquilezed, cloned, hitting thorns and then get a switch and die from dh

[nimble jasper]

training dhs just seems terrible

for most melee

[spice hornet]

they must fix blur

then it will be fine

[pale minnow]

No... u must switch every deffensives

[nimble jasper]

even then

sitting on a dh whos training healer seems sus

altho priest main healer who can even get trained by a dh

rdruid/mw not really

rsham sometimes

[simple rock]

what is blur cd with enhanced conduit and 252 ilvl

[nimble jasper]

like 40secs

[pale minnow]

U slow him, hit him when he has no blur and he can't do much just fight u while your healer can peel

[elder wigeon]

low 40's iirc

[simple rock]

every time I htink we can go dh he has blur

[nimble jasper]

if dh is training healer

yoy just get cleaved tho

[elder wigeon]

the thing dh doesn't have is a slow, if you slow the dh, you can peel him

[pale minnow]

Make it not happen u have howl + bolt

[nimble jasper]

i mean not wrong just going dhs as any melee besides rogue/ww

[pale minnow]

U won't hit a druid kiting you arround pillar puttin u asleep in roots + clonning u

[nimble jasper]

seems

[pale minnow]

Without spear no chance

Druid just makes fun of u if he is good

[nimble jasper]

yeah

basically just have to keep distance

getting cleaved by dh is asking to lose

[pale minnow]

U have all the tools to stop getting cleaved

[nimble jasper]

that and healer has to make distance

when you use them

[pale minnow]

And keeping dh on slow is their big L

Cuz they got no slow

[nimble jasper]

cant he just vengeful retreat piercing

[pale minnow]

If he plays the talent

But that's long cd

[nimble jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=198793/vengeful-retreat

[pale minnow]

Compared to your spammable ham

[nimble jasper]

yeah

have to ham and healer makes distance

[pale minnow]

For 3 sec xd

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[sharp meteor]

No, it always rips it off.

[pale minnow]

Dh is lucky if he gets demons while he is lossingnhis healer under a stun

[hallow surge]

Hey warriors. What slot is optimal for covenent legendary?

[spice hornet]

unity ring aaaaaaaaa

[nimble jasper]

pretty sure he needs to kill the demon to get the heal

but getting chain demon procs is some 8head shit still

[pale minnow]

U can't imagine how earlier i could've ended the game but they got saved by a rng demon procc

[spice hornet]

special place in hell for people who q frost ml+ hpriest with resolves

[pale minnow]

25 sec cd

[sharp meteor]

?

[pale minnow]

Vengeful r, nothing special you can howl him and ham him when he is close

He can free himself every 25 sec

Just to get reslowed

Is bonus set drop rng from weekly only?

[spice hornet]

the tiers will only come from vault

if u dont raid

and yes its rng

[pale minnow]

That's what i call shit gear system

3 weekly's and haven't seen a single bonus gear from 9 pvp chests

And someone already runs with 2 bonus sets

[nimble jasper]

because it also comes from raid and m+ vaults

[pale minnow]

Did m+ too

So basicly 18 loots and 0 drops 👏

[nimble jasper]

yeah people raid and only have 2p

rng is fickle

[pale minnow]

Idk how people have time to do all this, especially if you are like murk with 5 children 3 jobs and 2 wives

[full quiver]

You just don't lol

Wait a few weeks and you'll have everything

[pale minnow]

I mean fair but then you won't have folks to play with if you are alliance wish they would add already crossfactions

[raw summit]

soon

[full quiver]

Gotta wait even longer for that lol

[pale minnow]

At this point they should add more content

Imagine 1y same season people already on 4k and even 1.8 folks will get glad

[nimble jasper]

alliance aka

orc city

with nelf rogues and druids

[pale minnow]

Being a glad won't have a value anymore how sad

[nimble jasper]

i mean people will argue

it hasnt since 2.4 glad

[full quiver]

Rude people

[sharp meteor]

it hasn't had value since legion lmao

glad last season was equivalent to pre-bfa rival

[full quiver]

Nah

It was over top 3%

Which was duelist when titles were percent based

[wet scarab]

let them eat glad

I love these glad is worthless now conversations. Reminds me of back home when the aristocrats sit together and lament all these upstarts becoming ministers

[elder wigeon]

duelist is top 3% - .5%, rival was top 10% - 3%

last season glad was so inflated it was equivocal to rival

not top 10%, but top 5%, which is worse than duelist

[sharp meteor]

No, glad in unchained was roughly top 5%, which is old Rival.

[spice hornet]

why does every DH have their 2pc

fuck this class man

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, queue into buddy on my alt DH and he just dies a minute in while I'm still at like 7k dps or something, lmao

[wet scarab]

Are you only playing alts this season?

[sharp meteor]

I don't know what I'm playing this season.

doing the usual stuff and seeing what partners want to play after that.

[lucid walrus]

it's been tempting to get alts up early but i know realistically i'd probably just play them for sets

becomes easier later in the season but i'd also be behind on gear. tough balance to strike

[sharp meteor]

Decent time to do it now with honor gear being 259, it was just the first few days that were kind of annoying what with the sheer volume of people in placements so games were sweat.

Rival then shelf for most chars, DH and Warr cover weapons.

[lucid walrus]

not wrong about that. solo shuffle minimum ilvl change shoulda made that tolerable for no gear andys like my alts

not to mention you can grind weapon on anything now with conq cap rn

[near delta]

Yo how do yall deal with rogue/mage in 2s as fury? It's pretty easy mode as arms but not having banner is rufff.

[pale minnow]

Surrender, go next

Just go mid of the map press /sleep and don't forget gn kisses cuz they must have some problems irl for playing that comp

[spice hornet]

sepsis assass rogue

is insanely broken

they need to hotfix the dmg

how come the jewlery 291 leggos are way more expensive than the others

like the main pieces

is there a mat for the JC ones thats hard to get or something?

like the belt is like 50k

yet the ring is like 100k on my server

[pale minnow]

Just think logically

[spice hornet]

i cant

i do shadowlands engineering level 1 on all chars

then dont touch profession ever again

[pale minnow]

Every class can use a ring thus it's more expensive then a plate belt wich only 3 classes can use

[spice hornet]

to make that much of a price diff?

and not everyone is crafting ring leggos even if they could

[pale minnow]

Same goes to belt, not everyone needs belt leggo

[spice hornet]

i guess

but usually people undercut others

to make a quick sale for the hype

but the jewlery doesnt move

[pale minnow]

We are 3 weeks into the season of course it's alot, it will get less as time passes

[spice hornet]

ya but the neck is only 60k

[sharp meteor]

price of 262 rings cratering on my realm

[pale minnow]

[near delta]

Man feels like the resonator was really balanced around aegis being usable in stuns

[pale minnow]

F should've bought that

Next week i guess

Strange thing is... couldn't see a single convoke feral with a uninterruptable trinket

[near delta]

Huh I've seen a bunch of ferals and boomies running it

[pale minnow]

All i seen is hunters, rogues, rm and some warriors

Forgot dh's

[shy lichen]

Do warriors play arms or fury in new season with Ret/Warr and what cove are we?

[elder wigeon]

Arms, necrolord, kyrian also works

[shy lichen]

thank you friend

[pale minnow]

Yo where's my boy Cali?

[lucid walrus]

banned

[pale minnow]

Bruh...

[simple rock]

i'm such a fool for thinking I could sit a convoke just one time

[pale minnow]

Sadge

No trinket?

[simple rock]

well it felt ok until those ferocious bites

and my healer wasn't ccd

think the feral just got nice rng for those huge bites

[spice hornet]

Ow

[pale minnow]

I see you struggle too on 2k

Last week they cockhold me on 2094... piece of shieeets

[sharp meteor]

lmao

sitting a feral voke

🐱

[earnest thorn]

42k bite?

[simple rock]

got my 2100 last week just playing 2s for fun when my 3s teammates aren't around

every time I regret it cuz it's all hpriest hunter feral 🤡

[earnest thorn]

and dh right

[simple rock]

oh yeah ofc

[undone pumice]

wtf is the warr win con

damp?

[sharp meteor]

hm wat do

[undone pumice]

2 weapon

wtf

[novel basalt]

whats the best s3 trinket for warriors?

In terms of the quest that offers the 5 new ones

[sharp meteor]

aegis

rest are meh

[elder wigeon]

yeah, aegis is bis, the next best thing is resonator, but IMO it isn't really any good unless you're playing TSG

[undone pumice]

aegis better than even badge and insignia?

[spice hornet]

no

only rogue/mage get to take advantage of resontaros

sorry :^)

[sharp meteor]

It's the defensive option for magic. Health from BM can fall off and get you killed, but still has its purpose into physical stuff.

half health absorb is yuge

[undone pumice]

ok but

what comps is bm > aegis

tsg?

[fringe moat]

does intervene work on magic attacks

like hoj , coil

[undone pumice]

i dont think so

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[near delta]

When they do a go literally just using their resonators and you have to trinket and throw the game or hold trinket and lose

[spice hornet]

yep

then you just get kidney bombed/or dueled next go and die 100-0

[mystic barn]

death to hpriest

[near delta]

It's hilarious how good the new trinket is to traps

[mystic barn]

it’s hilarious facing caster teams where they and their hpriest has the anti cc and kick trinkets

I tried to asphyxiate a holy ward off a priest earlier and the trinket ate the choke instead of the holy ward

[sharp meteor]

DK is heavily magical.

It'd be like jungle, ww/arms, kfc, etc.

when you need a defensive option

[elder wigeon]

Turbo, DH war, Jungle, KFC to name the most popular

[undone pumice]

[elder wigeon]

I run aeghis most games rather than not

[mystic barn]

full sending badge

But I wanna get that absorb trinket next week

[elder wigeon]

you didn't get it this week?

[mystic barn]

and meme on locks and gets

no

[sharp meteor]

aaaiiieeee

[mystic barn]

I got the anti cc one for whatever reason

[elder wigeon]

lmao you say "meme" on locks, but the joke is on us, aeghis gets deleted in a few seconds from lock cds

[mystic barn]

I want to use the absorb trinket to meme on locks

[undone pumice]

joke is on us for not rerolling elden ring

[mystic barn]

I love fighting warriors now

devs saved wow

[elder wigeon]

weird cope that you're on

[sharp meteor]

had so many 10+ minute wps and retwarr matchups last season i imagine that won't happen again

now it's hiding behind a pillar to hopefully 1-shot the lock in damp

[mortal wyvern]

switched back from Necrolord to Kyrian today

unity on ring + enduring blow on belt

3k to be revered

[earnest thorn]

Unity on wrist imo

I like having the crafted ring with speed and I already have signet ring lego

Which I don't use but still

[elder wigeon]

I don't think anyone will run signet

trash tier for arms, mediocre for fury

[earnest thorn]

It's a fury thing maybe

[mystic barn]

Unhinged fury

[raw summit]

Tried it

It's ass

[undone pumice]

who do i focus in rmp

rog?

[elder wigeon]

depends on your comp

[gaunt rover]

fury in rbgs actually slaps lol

[elder wigeon]

fury allegedly on TR is looking good, potentially better than arms

[fickle forge]

Idk what I am looking at

God, TR is a catastrophe lmao

[elder wigeon]

I knew fury was performing well in the PTR but fury performs like piss on live unless you have tier set or playing the right comp

[fickle forge]

Watching Pika insta eat people on assassa is just big jokes

[elder wigeon]

smexxin and mes are doing well on live with fury, it looks fun personally, but against certain comps fury literally flops

I wish I recorded the game I had vs a fury turbo but I literally just charge stunned a fury, speared he trinketed to disarm me, I trinketed, sharpened him, he enraged and I disarmed him and he just died lmao

[raw summit]

I personally dont wanna play fury until i get out of oneshot frog-farm CR

[elder wigeon]

I love throttling the fuck out of people as WPS in the opener, it's fun

[raw summit]

RA + tier is hella fun from ptr though

[fickle forge]

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[undone pumice]

tsg

[elder wigeon]

prob rogue and priest

[undone pumice]

priest/rogue until defensives, swap and go back after defensive is over?

[iron basalt]

What is this unity ring you guys are talking about

[clear pine]

When you hit revered on the new faction you can craft the new unity legendary

[iron basalt]

Oh that is the covenant one that changes when you change covenants

Thank you

[clear pine]

You get a free unity belt after campaign 7/7. But at revered you can craft it on ANY other slot.

[iron basalt]

Oh makes sense

I need to work on that rep I guess

[clear pine]

Yeah you could craft EB on head but thats a tier slot and you cant upgrade the free belt.

[iron basalt]

I see

[elder wigeon]

kinda funny, zero r1 arms warriors currently, two fury warriors though

[warped warren]

still need to do the last campaign q

[wet scarab]

Yesterday my warrior died in a 7 second kidney inside a smoke bomb and two cosmic resonators during combustion, and it occurred to me that I wanted to thank Blizzard’s devs for finally offering additional win conditions to underprivileged and underrepresented RM teams

[clear pine]

Amen

[warped warren]

if they press all that in 1 go, then what the fuck did you trinket

🤣

[undone pumice]

probably sap or blind

[wet scarab]

lmao

can't even remember it was like the 4th or 5th rogue mage game in an evening

[lucid walrus]

7sec kidney sounds like a skill issue

shrek racial could never allow that

[sharp meteor]

the strength of rm is that they're able to reliably set up for their big abilities while being durable between said abilities

can't say i have seeen this much cd overlap

unless u have actually nothing then ye

[elfin surge]

Warrior is D tier Unplayable.

[wet scarab]

yeah I had nothing

I'm sure it was a bad play on my part, it didn't tilt me, just found it funny to have the whole kitchen sink thrown at my poor nelf

[sharp meteor]

playing into rmp feels so fried it's like they have so many ways to kill you

and a lot of comps are just sitting on yuor hands hoping they int enough goes that you can kill them

sike rogue is cheat so you can't even gib him in a bolt after he trinkets a disarm

[radiant oasis]

yo is the echoing resolve trinket a meme?

the one that increases cc by 20%?

[scarlet barn]

You left your cave MUD

back in there

[ancient sonnet]

Mud not streaming?

[wheat jay]

[elfin surge]

🤣

[feral timber]

howre you guys dealin w abomb limb

disaem or reflect work?

[sharp meteor]

parry aegis owo

[feral timber]

oooh

[deft root]

guys i got in vault crit vers head and ver mastery hands what should i pick?

[feral timber]

crit vers if youre arms

[deft root]

but leggo is in head

enduring blow

[feral timber]

i guess hands for now then if thats your leggo slot

[deft root]

airight tysm

[vapid plinth]

Hey what items should i buy first?

[ancient sonnet]

Enduring blow is gonna be on belt next week also

@vapid plinth weapon

[fickle forge]

My main issue with RM(P) is that you need to kill them 3-4 times for them to die 😎 👍

[elfin surge]

👀

[full quiver]

Just make rmp team have dampening affect them 3x as much

[tough compass]

Mby dont design trinkets that benefit RMP the most in the first place

[sage raptor]

Warriors suck. D tier at best.

[candid veldt]

I asked yesterday to play turbo, seems it is just zug zug

What's best healer for turbo, hpala?

[spice hornet]

hpal or rdruid

[jaunty furnace]

Idk how to do damage as arms

Seem like a fury does more

[candid veldt]

Also what do you guys think of arms tier set? 4 set seems kinda meh

[jaunty furnace]

Actually have seen a ton of fury warriors in arena now

[fierce elm]

4 set dumb good

[wet scarab]

yeah got smoked by one running the siegebreaker leggo today

staying rival is sweaty af for my skill level lol

finally got the rsham I play with to it as well

[nimble jasper]

lfg healers cant handle this season’s dmg lmao

i play with one of my regular guys and we win like every game tho

[sharp meteor]

rly i think all my healers drink now

in general just a stressful time

[nimble jasper]

idk its always been a thing with lfg

i always feel like im dying

and they dont even play aggro

[wet scarab]

the rsham I play with I met through LFG

he's good because he transferred to alliance from horde >_>

[nimble jasper]

[wet scarab]

winning all DH games now because he tanks and roots them like a true chad

[nimble jasper]

rshams are gonna have ptsd this ssn

q’ing into sin rogs

[wet scarab]

haha yeah

[nimble jasper]

no poison dispel

[wet scarab]

I spend all sin rogue games peeling him

[nimble jasper]

assuming he doesnt just dot you up to

and turn around smack you

[wet scarab]

apparently their tier bonus is kind of garbage?

rshams that is

[nimble jasper]

dont recall

hpriest bonus is omega gross

+people will prob get a brain and just play kyrian hpriest with double lego

for even more bada boom

[wet scarab]

man the second I get a boon of the ascended alert I get heart palpitations now

[nimble jasper]

with vendetta sepsis kidney you might have to trink opener

if priest also boons

[shy aurora]

Was it awc today?

[nimble jasper]

or die

[candid veldt]

4 set even worth losing pvp verse pieces?

[nimble jasper]

yesterday was qualifier

[shy aurora]

Was it live cause i missed it then

[nimble jasper]

offline

would have to watch someone stream it

which not all teams did

[wet scarab]

ah I think the tier set is a bit trash because it forces them to keep spamming chain heal

[nimble jasper]

altho streaming your qualifiers is kinda int

it lets other team know your strats

and comp

[deft root]

I create enduring blow with which stats?

hast vers or cirt vers?

[wet scarab]

people like crit on kyrian and haste on necro

most likely we'll play kyrian next week as the double leggo is better

[deft root]

I will w8 till next week then not rushing c:

ty though

[wet scarab]

buy the base item now though, they're pretty cheap and will probably blow up at reset with everyone trying to recraft it

[deft root]

so which runecarver items should i buy?

[nimble jasper]

idk i kinda feel venthyr priest is hella mid in 2s

if not q’ing into rdruids

ideally have someone you know craft

ah markup is nuts

[wet scarab]

if you're going to be revered with the ZM faction by reset then you'll be able to recraft the belt they give you on any slot

and craft enduring on belt

most likely unity on ring or bracers to not conflict with tier piece

[deft root]

airight

bm l hpal who do i kill?

[wet scarab]

I did a stupid thing yesterday, lost 3 games to DH priest after killing the priest because they ressed and I didn't know the hp and mana they came back with depended on their healing

was trying to kill the DH and the priest is back with like half his mana running around

what a dumb thing that you just need to afk until he resses -_-

[nimble jasper]

i let a guy rez with half mana

only to kill him again in the next 30secs

🤡

then double tbag

[wet scarab]

More delicious that way

[sage raptor]

Yes. Vers isn't as important this season. Also vers is in the DR zone.

Might as well take it

[candid veldt]

@sage raptor tyvm

[sage raptor]

No problem

[novel basalt]

So elysian might on belt and unhinged or EB?

[clear pine]

No EB on belt, and cov legendary on ring/neck. DONT CRAFT EM

you will get EM from cov legendary

[pale minnow]

Been strugguling with a rshamman from lfg had to switch on a druid cuz yikes man, had always 100k-200k less heals then any other healer

Idk how tf we could lose all hunter games when i played mirror he had tremor and NL shield to avoid it

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk i tell myself not to play lfg

do it anyway

regret it 30mins later

[pale minnow]

I have noone just lfg if the player is descent in 5 games i add him and see what the future brings

Dh + holypala is a huge cock in the ass

My rshamman ran arround pillar while dh had freedom and i hot kited by both of them xd couldn't save his dumb ass

[candid veldt]

dh just melting with immoaura

[nimble jasper]

lfg healers just do

the dumbest shit

[pale minnow]

Dumbest shit in the whole game

[nimble jasper]

idk

[candid veldt]

so much just afk dmg this season, melee dmg immo aura all assa bleeds

[pale minnow]

Passive abilites doing top dmg is the biggest braindead dev in a game

[nimble jasper]

idk like

bad kiting to not even be able to peel

is the funniest shit

[pale minnow]

I mean he was kiting perfectly

Kiting me

[nimble jasper]

^

yeah the wrong type

[pale minnow]

Couldn't land an intervene

Cuz thd dumbass lossed me the whole game lmao

[nimble jasper]

theres usually a few signs of big inter with lfg imo

low ilvl lego is often one

[raw summit]

my heal has a 190 are you telling me something

[candid veldt]

trying to peel a good dh off your healer is just mind numbing

[raw summit]

idk i feel like dh dam has gone down (or my mmr idk)

[nimble jasper]

i mean if your healer has a brain and makes distance when you slow its fine

[candid veldt]

you stand near to intereven or hstring you just get melted with their 3 buttons

[nimble jasper]

if you’re sitting on a dh while hes double cleaving

just lose

[pale minnow]

Yeah but the hpala was so smart he was running with dh making pressure

[candid veldt]

^

[nimble jasper]

yeah i feel if sham is good

you can easily punish aggro hpals

🤷‍♂️

[pale minnow]

I malded my ass off

I'm bald now

[nimble jasper]

playing warrior 2s with lfg sounds like a terrible time

monk was ok last time i did it cuz people still suck

and dont know how to live 2 bonedust goes

[pale minnow]

Trust me bro if i had that one win 2nd week on start at 2094 i would've never again touched fucking 2s

[nimble jasper]

love when healer traded everything for first sweep

dps doesnt peel

guy dies next

[pale minnow]

Faced a r1 monk with a hpriest

[nimble jasper]

double ww was peak comedy into bad rdruid/rsham

[pale minnow]

My man tried his best to kill me but thing turned arround when they both got speared

[nimble jasper]

trinket giga late on double bonedust

insta restun die

idk and melee healer teams just walk into double sweeps

when you sit on their healer

[pale minnow]

Disarmed my bs and they got knocked

[nimble jasper]

always so confused on that char

why people are playing disarm

[pale minnow]

Can win good value if you get the wb

[nimble jasper]

i mean disarm into ww

is pretty worthless

only stops fof

[pale minnow]

Whoneven play disarm vs monks?

[nimble jasper]

idiots

fof dmg for the globals it uses is pretty bad too

seems the bonedust change didnt do much honestly

keefers on sck proc still melts people

[pale minnow]

Just fear it or parry

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

so many warriors fear xuen

its fucking int

[pale minnow]

Sick of rshammans not kicking mg

[nimble jasper]

yah wait till they learn to just play kyrian

boon>mg in 2s imo

[pale minnow]

Xd that's how monk started

He thought imma fear or something

[nimble jasper]

that was only season 1

people need to get with the times

[pale minnow]

I just howled and leaped to his healer, he carried on and went on my healer lul

[raw summit]

what should they fear instead

[nimble jasper]

bonedust sef together

any good monk doesnt really pop till bonedust

[raw summit]

thank god i dont see many monks

i despise FoF

[nimble jasper]

and the keefer’s proc+alpha tiger window

50% more crit

and bloodlust haste

also why getting double swept is bad

cuz guy who responds with defs the monk will just tab over palm the other guy

and refixate+spin on him

@raw summit also gotta keep in mind some monks will just para—->throw bonedust

so you cant wall in the bonedust global

[raw summit]

Aight imma keep those in mind

ty

[near delta]

Playing fury and not having OP feels soooooo bad into FoF

[jaunty furnace]

Who do you even go on vs rogue mage in 2s

I get kited all day when going mage

Even with slows on him

[summer root]

Depends on what you're queueing with. Rsham/Priest u go mage and they're supposed to spam purge on mage when they can. Anything else u go rogue

[scarlet raptor]

Yo for pvp arms do we want to build unity on belt or does it not matter?

[severe skiff]

Belt is for enduring since tier helm is one of the better pieces

[summer root]

^

[scarlet raptor]

okay so were is best spot for cov leggo?

[severe skiff]

Unity on any non tier slot, can make a socket slot to require one less socket later

ring for a big boost to your secondary stat of choice

neck same but pvp neck is the single largest vers piece

bracer, boots, ring is prob your best option

[mortal wyvern]

Ima do ring unity(kyrian)

and waist enduing blow

[crude lava]

hi im new to pvp warrior.which spec is better currently?

[mortal wyvern]

fury/arms they're both good. depends on ur play style

[radiant oasis]

i see smexxin is playing into a lot of gladiator's resolve, is that trinket actually good?

the one that immunes cc but makes it last longer?

[tired portal]

apparently things like root from warbringer can trigger the immunity

[radiant oasis]

ohhh that is insane

big insight ty

[polar jetty]

waht cov will be ideal for warrior as arms

will it be kyrian?

[radiant oasis]

i think all of them are good with maybe NF being the weakest

magnus just spams kyrian

smexxing spamming venthyr

mud spamming necro

necro i think might be most popular

[polar jetty]

even when the 2p come out?

oops i mean the two legos

[radiant oasis]

i dont know if anyone can say for sure

but you can freely swap covs so no stress on picking

[elder wigeon]

next tuesday

[lost solar]

anyone know if deathmaker is the play for pvp legendary with 4 piece over signet for necro?

[mortal wyvern]

kyrian is better

just switched back to kyrian from necro

[lost solar]

eh most of the top people are necro

[mortal wyvern]

covenant ability of kyrian is better when ur using unity power

[mortal wyvern]

well now we will have 2 leggos 😉

enduring blow on waist, unity on ring

[lost solar]

fury not arms my bad

[mortal wyvern]

fury is different

[novel basalt]

so basically warrs are fucked and we have to grind to honored?

considering belt is taken up by our 4 piece

[idle cliff]

It's revered, not honored and you need to grind it on 1 character only, the memory is account bound

[idle cliff]

Belt isn't taken up by our 4 piece

It's taken up by enduring to keep the helm slot open incase of tier

[gusty zinc]

hey im fairly new to arena. better to spend my 1800 conq my weapon or buy gear and hope I get lucky from the vault?

[near delta]

Definitely weapon

[gusty zinc]

alright, thanks

[tired portal]

is unity on ring slot still the go when we also have the 262 +80 speed ring on that slot?

[undone pumice]

feet and bracers good too

[elder wigeon]

good thing you can wear two rings

[tired portal]

but you can already get a pvp ring with the stats you want from the vendor, so pvp vendor ring + leggo ring, or 262 +80 speed ring +leggo ring, or pvp vendor ring + 262 +80 speed ring + leggo on another slot?

[mystic barn]

yea but u can move a portion of verse to another stat you want since legendary is 50:50 instead of 75:25

Since verse doesn’t matter as much now

I’m personally crafting unity on boots

[main copper]

Unity on wrists gang rise up

[quaint snow]

cheap people craft unity on other slots than ring

[elder wigeon]

it's not a big deal, what's important is that you get the stats you want and get a socket out of the deal

probably fine to make unity on chest as well

unless you get tier set there

I just think chest is the worst stats

[candid veldt]

Is this the play? Saw people saying get Lego on cloak too

[undone pumice]

its the play

some fury will run deathmaker on cloak but it sucks donkey dick imo reck defense is better

[elfin surge]

Warrior is D tier unplayable

[undone pumice]

ur mom is S tier great vehicle

[thick reef]

Hey guys just switched to Human from orc and would it better to use relentless over regular trinket

[undone pumice]

probably not

rmp so strong

[thick reef]

so just stick reg trinket?

copy

[undone pumice]

reg trinket is strong with human

cuz u essentialy have 2 trinkets

just 30 sec between each one at the very least

but u could go 2 damage trinket or relentless

up to you how confident you feel

[thick reef]

Sweet thankyou for the pointers, appreciate it

[wet scarab]

yeah relentless was quite nice last season against RM

but it's easier to negate RM goes using your racial and the medallion

use relentless in other matches where you're getting cc'ed to prevent you from getting a kill rather than because you're about to die

it's very good against clone-happy druids and DHs and most rogue matchups that aren't with a mage

[spice hornet]

relent human war feels good til they blind you and 100-0 your healer

[full quiver]

Lol

[warped warren]

feet

[spice hornet]

iu still wonder why war banner reduces disarms on you but relent does not

[sly furnace]

10/12 games vs hunter/druid fun fun

[feral timber]

yeah how are yall dealin w hunters they keep ruinin my day

[spice hornet]

i do not recommend warrior 2s rn

dont q the 2s bracket

[feral timber]

y

[spice hornet]

i did like 30 games above 2100 and saw 1 warrior

kekw

[feral timber]

sheesh

im just getting gatekeeped by double hunter comps from 1400

[steep inlet]

its on you

it suck

[feral timber]

yeah i havent figured out how to deal w them yet

[main copper]

Had one earlier, they both threw a trap. I spell reflected ran into that trap then walked over and slapped the one that got trapped.

Saved me a charge

[feral timber]

oh you can spell reflect trap???

[main copper]

Yer

[feral timber]

how did i not know this

my biggest problem was getting them low then just getting ccd and kited while they burn me down

[main copper]

I hold Spear of Bastion wait for them to feign death randomly then throw spear and slap.

It is not easy though if both are good, I'm kinda gauging which one looks weakest.

[feral timber]

ahhh

[main copper]

If they have feign up they can just feign death and walked out of the spear.

[feral timber]

yeah iknew that

the kiting and aimshot/rapid fire opener is what tilts me most

[main copper]

I had one the other day where I killed one. But the other one ran around a bit and casually wild spirit 1 shot my healer through the pillar.

Thankfully managed to 1v1 him by luck. But they are horrible.

[feral timber]

sheesh

[steel socket]

can someone explain why does Enduring Blow is better now on waist rather than Helm? Is it because of the potential tier on Helm?

[spice hornet]

yes

the tier helm is vers haste

[steel socket]

ooo

nice

thanks

[sly furnace]

had a break for 6+ monthes from wow and oh boy im so worthless in 2s atm feel so squishy

[rain field]

Is the play going to be Enduring on belt and unity on ring?

[spice hornet]

yes unity on ring or bracer

i am doing it on ring

[rain field]

Just get the jailer weapon and you can compete with DH output for 1min

[wet scarab]

or be fury

I haven't run into many double dps 2s comps

the one that actually destroys me is war ret

hunter druid is vastly more tilting than hunter hunter

the other day though I won a surv rdruid match after I killed his pet, got rooted and he ran just around the corner of a pillar, I threw a spear and bomb and he died just as the revive pet cast went off

was delicious

[nimble jasper]

spriest warlock

[wet scarab]

ah yes