so i'd be able to use unity on my waist + big spear as kyrian just after i finish 7 chapter?
#pvp
real gorge
sharp meteor
3k dps dot just caves your head in on the tournament realm like cool
real gorge
so what do i need revered for? just to get it in anything else beside waist?
real gorge
i just started yesterday so im way behind
ancient sonnet
unfortunately yea. Can get rep from all difficulties or raid, weekly quest, world quests, and killing rares.
real gorge
im so confused
narrow beacon
What do ya'll think for Arms Warrior/PvP?
spice hornet
big tier helm
narrow beacon
big tier helm
The PvP slot? It's Vers/Mas
nimble jasper
do any have a socket
nimble jasper
helm or chest only real options there
raw summit
Its this item
spice hornet
oh it had the same icon
raw summit
yea its a big scam
elder wigeon
no tier set on any of my warriors and got completely hosed on all 3
sharp meteor
mace on warr that already has mace, sword on warr that has mace, tier shoulders on third 
my dh buddy just got 2pc so he'll probably be slicing people up with death sweeps
whole month until we can target tier isn't it
or two months
nimble jasper
april 12th
think you can only catalyst one item a week?
it has some sort of cd idk which
nimble jasper
mace on warr that already has mace, sword on warr that has mace, tier shoulders ...
im more curious how the hpriest bonus works
says it makes a holy word 60% more effective
does that include chastise cc duration
elder wigeon
every week you can convert a piece
I'm so fuckin mad that my warriors are shit until april 12th
people are so far ahead it disgusts me
i know a few people with 2 and 4 set already who raid
spice hornet
i have gotten 0 tier as well
not even an option
across like 30ish vaults
bad design
the tier catchu oshould be moved up
sharp meteor
i know a few people with 2 and 4 set already who raid
right? lmao
some people got 0 pieces others got 4 pc already
nimble jasper
does hpriest set bonus make chastise a 6.5s incap
sharp meteor
idk i went into the season wanting to chill push and one partner is probably going to break his head trying to push now without tier
nimble jasper
or just makes serenity powerful
wet scarab
I ended up with my 2 best items a second tier piece that I already had but upgraded ilvl and a 272 haste vers weapon when I had a 268
really nice that the tier piece ilvl scales if you get it from pvp slot though
but yeah you can already tell this week that people have gotten good gear
getting smoked more than usual by DHs
their 2pc any good?
sharp meteor
20% on death sweep which is uh
pretty decent lol
more power in eye beam mini metas aka demonic
and meta
wet scarab
good thing we have all these defensives bois!
quaint snow
DH seem to make so much dmg...... 😦
nimble jasper
2p for assassination is utterly insane
4p
tho idk why no tier sin rogues are playing nf already
elder wigeon
is 2p not insane?
nimble jasper
it is but 4p makes it super disgusting
elder wigeon
40% increase to their bleeds and poisons on shiv is insane for a 2p bonus
nimble jasper
almost a trinket/big def or die situation insta
elder wigeon
shiv is already a 9 second sharpen
elder wigeon
yeah i mean RPS and RLS meta
welcome to cata
assassination rogues will rip warriors in half lmao
elder wigeon
you just can't live
nimble jasper
like hpriest rmp not like you need to cc 2 people yourself
chastise fear db sheep huge brain
elder wigeon
we love it
nimble jasper
idk if its even a gain to dispel sepsis
makes sepsis align with next vendetta and instant triggers blades+AR for that current one
warped warren
it is but 4p makes it super disgusting
2p is disgusting aswell lol
nimble jasper
not wrong
but i dont think nf shift really happens till 4
cuz thats when sepsis becomes trink wall or die
nimble jasper
nah its 4p
that makes it disgusting
nf just adds some insurance when yoy get dispelled early on it
erm nf lego
warped warren
lol
nimble jasper
you already have 1min vendetta with duskwalkers so its basically 90% there
jovial cedar
Stupid question probably but we want to take the tier set piece if we get one in our vault correct? Over other options
warped warren
wep> tier > w.e
jovial cedar
Alright man Skoldus halls is up the same week I should be able to buy a weapon maybe it’s time to go full on arms and switch to kyrian as well
pale minnow
Why even nerfing arms deffensive on such brokken buffs on certain classes, it's just dumb that 10% is like shit in pants nothing
Every 3rd go u finish with 0 deffensives and trinket how tf u gonna survive, u gotta play perfect to survive vs rogues
We became a predict class or die cathegory
wet scarab
this is kind of why I've been fooling around with fury
at least people don't understand it fully yet
you can use a wall while stunned
and you can self heal
spice hornet
Why even nerfing arms deffensive on such brokken buffs on certain classes, it's ...
this is what happened to me vs. UH Hero cleave that had 2pcs
wet scarab
you're overestimating how much people know when to disarm on fury
spice hornet
they literally just did unhealable dmg
wet scarab
they see the char turn red and they just press it
and if you use signet you're getting more root dispels than usual
yeah my hpriest just gave up after 2 resto shaman DH games
couldn't heal through defensive stance and parry lmao
and I was stunning, disarming, etc
spice hornet
d stance needeed a nerf
but meanwhile blur is just existing
going untouched
90 dodge
wet scarab
they just don't feel like fair games
spice hornet
like literal 30 sec cd
i asked a GM what do i do about getting false reported for my sales macro
saying i wouldnt do it but the prices of leggo shit made me
this is what he reply
Just to put this out there, the majority of players don’t purchase WoW Tokens for gold, nor do they sell carries, they just play the game. Acquiring the ingredients through their adventures, or by working with their guild/friends.
is that not the biggest lie ever
wet scarab
lmao
wet scarab
it depends on the modifier in that first part of the sentence
they do buy it to get gold
spice hornet
they designed leggos the way they are this expansion to sell more wow tokens
wet scarab
if he's saying they buy tokens with gold then he's right
lol there's no chance if you're a casual gathering shit on your adventures that you have money to craft anything
sharp meteor
just play profs for the first few weeks of each expansion/patch and that's all the gold u ever need
wet scarab
the missives alone are highway piracy
nimble jasper
i mean legos are way cheaper if you have someone craft
sharp meteor
yeah had to buy a bunch at 1k the other day
but rings were going for like 3x the cost of their reagents
so i just churnin those out
wet scarab
rip engineering
we'll get our ZM port immediately after exalted, when the content has long become irrelevant
it's not even guaranteed to drop lmao
sharp meteor
i leveled jc 9 days ago and have made about 2m so far with maybe 20-30 minutes a day
actually probably like 10-20 minutes
wet scarab
hmm maybe I'll unlearn mining for a bit
which gems are you making? whatever is currently overpriced?
sharp meteor
im like hm these rings are bis for pvp but nobody is crafting them so i will
just the haste/vers, vers/haste and mastery/vers rings
wet scarab
nice
sharp meteor
15-25k for essentia, 1.5k for sail, 2k for rest of mark mats, 500g missive, then sell for 35-80k
with biggest ones selling for 120k but those days are long gone
wish i started earlier but oh well
elder wigeon
how
spice hornet
name with a lot of retarded accents
3.2k achi points
slands achieves only
Probably works for Blazingboost
spice hornet
banned hopefully
sharp meteor
actually insane how they managed to drag literal 1400 players up to 2400-2700
pale minnow
I'm top1 warr on my server with 2k cr in 2s and almost reached duelist, 1 win was the deal until i kept getting rdruid hunter/locks "cries in pain" game hates me xd
elder wigeon
just don't play 2's it's trash
lucid walrus
15-25k for essentia, 1.5k for sail, 2k for rest of mark mats, 500g missive, then...
yeah it's falling off already
made a decent 6-figure split after the fact at least
pale minnow
Like imagine we went 3s and we got melted by aflilock he did 1 mill dmg while i did 600k on 2nd place i dueled parried every ds and soul rot and still can't keep up heals and anything just melted like shieet, mechagnome map where my dude can portal abuse, tp and get leap of faith and me with my 1 heroic leap i can just junp up once dog was redotting everyone and jumped of that's all he did
50% dmg reduc on my team and still they died first lol
spice hornet
ye afflic can pump
wait til u run into double afflic hpriest
where they are running the resolve trinket
my healer bud did 10k hps
at the end of the match
when we won
pale minnow
Let's see some stats 2400 2s 0 warrior on EU not bad
3s 10 warriors on 2400
This explains alot doesn't it?
pale minnow
On 2s 14 rogues of all kind mostly outlaw- sub
spice hornet
Let's see some stats 2400 2s 0 warrior on EU not bad
Just extremely unfun to play 2s past 2100 as warrior
pale minnow
On 3s 10 rogues
spice hornet
Like legitimately the most depressing thing ever
pale minnow
Just extremely unfun to play 2s past 2100 as warrior
Hell bro even from 1.9
A dumb player with 0 game knowledge just pve's you with hunter
While you gotta be a god predicter to banner the freze + use ur stuff on the right moments
Look at poor joe last stream he did he almost went bald from losing
Poor man can't survive 3 goes
pale minnow
Yeah wich wouldn't be easy if banner won't be 90 sec cd and trap 25 sec or u can sit on your healer and do no pressure in the hopes that u steal the trap
Mirror seems cool vs traps but where the pressure at then?
pale minnow
Overwatch was so damn cool and they just removed it
naive prawn
Double leggo mirror and EM
wet scarab
I’m really glad convoke druids are back with cc immunity trinkets
pale minnow
Like if it was such a huge thing lol
naive prawn
Shit unhinged and EM going to be real nice
undone pumice
i want like old stances like
pale minnow
Unhiged does no dmg tho
undone pumice
a whole stance bar
unhinged does dmg
wtf u mean
its going to be good into melee cleaves
naive prawn
Right what is this guy talking about lol
pale minnow
Then play it and will see why noone played it so far
undone pumice
if ur minmaxing ur gonna craft unhinged to fight ret warr and kitty
but we played it in s1?
?????
pale minnow
S1 u played venthyr leggo
naive prawn
Necro war plays it what do you mean?
full quiver
What
undone pumice
?????????
full quiver
Unhinged does massive dam lol
pale minnow
Unhinged u played max first 2-3 weeks of s1
pale minnow
U bladestorm the man for 16k ms at max and bladestorm while you could make more impact with just using colosus uptime
pale minnow
Not to mention everyone will just piss on spear and fade out, cos, fly up, meta out, portal out , bop it, fd it, olya would work on druids, warrior, shammans
full quiver
Duh
undone pumice
how about
undone pumice
you go play venthyr fury if its that bad
naive prawn
You got some nice Defensive out of it
And you can do that go every min
It’s called pressure
pale minnow
Yeah I use spear to bait deffensives so after i can pump down someone, but not while in spear bladestorming their deffensive literally getting 50% pressure of what you could do with just simply outplay your oponnent after the spear
naive prawn
I’m pretty sure WB +25% crit damg MS hits for way more than 16k
pale minnow
I’m pretty sure WB +25% crit damg MS hits for way more than 16k
15%**
undone pumice
- bladestorm dmg
naive prawn
Pretty quickly
pale minnow
Another good reason why it ain't gucci
pale minnow
Like on a hunter/hpriest u can't even play unhinged properly
undone pumice
naive prawn
Hunter you don’t play unhinged
Misshapen and EM
Train priest reflect traps you win
pale minnow
Yeah
spice hornet
iu just love enduring too much. dont get cucked on my dmg when people press their ranged disarm or rogue step disarms you
pale minnow
iu just love enduring too much. dont get cucked on my dmg when people press thei...
Eb for the win bro
Unexpected slaps
spice hornet
ya
pale minnow
Eb + rend feels so powerfull into melle cleaves hollyshit
Thing is Eb has more uptime then unhinged will ever have
naive prawn
Sounds like you are PVE’ing in PVP
pale minnow
And u guys just want mindless zug zug one shot wich is easily counterable
naive prawn
It’s been a busty meta
Kills are made in go windows
You want to pve and top meters okay
undone pumice
pale minnow
You can't even bring down anyone with a spear + unhinged in any window because your pressure is shit, work only on melle cleaves and kitties but they have their answers to that too
undone pumice
naive prawn
Have you ever bladestorm someone with unhinged on and necro banner buff?
It’s smacks
pale minnow
Aight tell me a situation where u imagine this could work
undone pumice
all of em
naive prawn
Stun spear WB bladestorm every min
They won’t last long
Would have to cycle way to many CDs
I don’t think they have enough
pale minnow
1 parry from a warrior and the whole thing is thrown in the trash can
full quiver
But it's def good into cleaves
naive prawn
He won’t have parry the next go
And no it’s not the pick in every game
But for most games in 2s it is
pale minnow
First he parries 2nd healer saves 3rd he parries again and will just rotate the deffensives
pale minnow
There are also trinkets
And u won't kill him with a spear baldestorm when bs end you'll get or stunned or disarmed
naive prawn
But while that bladestorm went off you couldn’t be stopped
pale minnow
Also you'll lose a pvp talent cuz u need the bs pvp talent
naive prawn
Wait so what do you expect to happen?
Just WB and hit Sweeping strikes over power and MS you way to victory? You don’t think you’ll get disarmed anyways?
I’m confused
Trying to keep rend up when it takes 30 rage where you should just be using that rage for MS anyways
pale minnow
Idk i rather use bs for predicting disarms and maintain pressure
And dw u got enough rage to popp rend
U start with 1 ms goes on cd, hit 2x op then rend and u can ms again
full quiver
Lol
naive prawn
predicting disarms? people laterally disarm on every WB
pale minnow
Yeah, and u bladestorm instantly after wb
pale minnow
And what's ur plan when u got no spear + bs?
naive prawn
survive until its off CD?
pale minnow
Xd
I expected an answer not a question, and ye my point with eb u do pressure all the time not just every 1 min
pale minnow
Pretty good rng u have like 1-2 min uptime and you slap hard everytime when it procces
And enemy won't use deffensives unless they wanna die next go
More windows to win more pressure also equals win if you gonna stay afk for 1 min for bs and spear to come back you'll be dead
Your unhinged would work better on fury, shorter bs with more dmg and with shorter cd
lucid walrus
got a conq belt and 262 enduring on helm. should i run the risk of getting tier in the same slot and just buy my 291 enduring on helm too?
full quiver
If I remember helm is one of the verse tier pieces
sharp meteor
my haste>mastery warrior felt prety similar to my haste>crit warr last season
like couldn't rly tell apart
lucid walrus
yeah i'm just waiting til prices drop or i get something outta vault
undone pumice
like
lucid walrus
woulda memed battlelord but it seems like a throwaway
sharp meteor
enduring just seems like better version of bl
undone pumice
u wont tell the difference between stuff that doesnt change ur rotation imo
haste changes ur rotation
sharp meteor
i mean i know that full crit was noticible because spear somebody with 25% crit
lucid walrus
i've always disliked the uh
undone pumice
cuz ms cooldown is hasted
sharp meteor
or like unhinged necro with kyrian empower
lucid walrus
negative feedback loop of tac procs with bl
sharp meteor
but people fret too much about stats
lucid walrus
as long as the piece has vers on it i don't mind. even then it's not essential given uh
lucid walrus
really did
undone pumice
too bad blizz hates warrior
full quiver
😩
lucid walrus
d-stance change feels miserable still
lucid walrus
mobility has felt fine
lucid walrus
ah
undone pumice
we arent some gigahybrid class with multiple non dr cc
we have a talented stun and a fear
we have next to 0 self healing unless we get killing blows which isnt reliable
near delta
Holy crap necro fury with signet is so much fun
near delta
You got anything good to socket long term? lol
near delta
Ope
full quiver
that war is full crit gear so maybe running insig isn't bad
near delta
Yeah tru
frank knoll
Enhance is a little meh may switch to playing kitty? Idk
clever fern
wwich weapon we buy, vers/mast or vers/crit?
frank knoll
It’s a fun spec, just sucks that you can literally only play Turbo
jaunty furnace
Do we get conquest points at a faster rate now or just me?
Feel like caping is faster than before
timid geode
wwich weapon we buy, vers/mast or vers/crit?
Vers crit for arms i believe
clever fern
Do we get conquest points at a faster rate now or just me?
ZM quest+ solo q = 350 conquest
full quiver
anyone have a WA for that stupid cc trinket
spice hornet
oh that chain harvest has been hurting
ive almost died to it many times by accident
undone pumice
spice hornet
nimble jasper
i was helping my friend get his hpal to 18 for raid with my monk i havent queued this season
3 arms hpriest teams in placements
granted they all died in 2 sweep goes cuz bad
pale minnow
Necro fury is where it's at
What cr u at?
near delta
Only around 1800 now. The games just feel so much easier than arms
pale minnow
Only around 1800 now. The games just feel so much easier than arms
Famous last words
near delta
I need to break out my ww
near delta
Famous last words
For sure lol.
near delta
Once you get to the point where people have keefers weakauras and are smart with trinkets it gets super frustrating
At least that was my experience last season
fierce elm
WW kinda sus rn
nimble jasper
Once you get to the point where people have keefers weakauras and are smart with...
really?
killed an rdruid in opener at 2.4
last season
near delta
When it worked it felt great
near delta
Lol
Dude I played with this hpal end of last season
Was told he should bubble the second he sees xuen
nimble jasper
i did the games with lfg too
near delta
Not clones or bdb just tony the tiger
wet scarab
this meta is so fucked up
im genuinely thinking of just putting a pause on pvp
never hated playing it so much
near delta
What trinket is it that lets casters just not get kicked for tons of casts?
nimble jasper
i saw an r1 enh playing enh rdruid
near delta
I thought it was just a couple casts
near delta
Healer enh is not great right?
nimble jasper
i still think people trade way too much for keefers bonedust
near delta
Thought they only really play with dps
fierce elm
healer enhance is still ass
nimble jasper
just target the guy
fierce elm
Also the meta is very similar to last season with a more mix of caster comps @wet scarab
nimble jasper
who looks like weak link
fierce elm
Unless its 2s which has been aids since about its release
undone pumice
2s is so cringe for warrior
u cannot
win
u either go through a year long game
in the faster mode btw
or u get 1 tapped or 1 tap
wet scarab
Also the meta is very similar to last season with a more mix of caster comps <@!...
I don't know, last season it felt like you could actually beat the meta if you played well, this season it doesn't
no matter how I cycle abilities and trade defensives, what talents I play, how I swap or stance dance or set up my goes, it never feels like I'm close to beating a demon hunter
and it doesn't matter what I do I can't beat a surv rdruid combo
or live through more than 2 assa rogue goes
or kill a demo lock, lol
fierce elm
I mean its also 2s
You are also making fundamental issues if you vant survive 2 assa goes
but 2s has never been a balanced bracket
wet scarab
yeah I mean it always had its cheese comps but those never felt like the majority of matches, it was still fun. It isn't right now
fierce elm
Because warrior was easily high tier if not top tier in past seasons in both brackets
wet scarab
I like doing 3s atm when I play with a caster or ranged, rest of the time in melee cleaves it's death after parry and that's it
very predictable games
fierce elm
DKs has been going through the same thing for years
wet scarab
yeah guess it's time to take a break from it like they did last season
fierce elm
Where we arguably have the best comp atm
fierce elm
3s
wet scarab
I do play 3s, and I enjoy it when I play with a ranged clase
fierce elm
Where we got Turbo which is fucking bonkers atm
undone pumice
tsg good?
fierce elm
even with enhance nerf
wet scarab
but always harder to put the group together for that, I liked vibing in 2s
fierce elm
idk, we shitstomp every TSG we face
undone pumice
alright
fierce elm
but ye 2s has always been an aids bracket
wet scarab
I kill DKs as fury so it can't be that good
fierce elm
Just gotta accept 3s
undone pumice
ok
fierce elm
This is also the most exciting part of the season
so many multi glads and r1s sitting at 1800+
undone pumice
but is every enemy comp have a warr
fierce elm
so once you hit that in 3s its great fun ngl
undone pumice
dont have to worry aboht that
when i have no ide awhats happening if im entireky honest
lucid walrus
turbo felt good earlier today just playing rat games for weapon
sage raptor
I kill DKs as fury so it can't be that good
Weird. I kill warrs with my DK so it must not be that good a class.
undone pumice
popo
sage raptor
Yeah I'm there
undone pumice
warm pollen
What’s the most op Comp for arms warr
I enjoyed destro lock warr rsham but I dunno
Tsg still very good
Turbo I’m not sure if I like it anymore
fierce elm
Turbo
warm pollen
With hpal ?
elder wigeon
Turbo > Ret war = TSG
fierce elm
hpal/mw tbh
fierce elm
hpriest turbo can probs work aswell because hpriest is dumb
warm pollen
Yeah tbh I’ve played some craZy turbos
Do we always go healers on turbo?
Or it depends
I was playing necro war ret earlier but we were failing against casters somehow
fierce elm
You can kill anything as turbo rn
warm pollen
Yeah true
warm pollen
I was playing necro war ret earlier but we were failing against casters somehow
Against locks mostly
fierce elm
We do a lot of swap kills
warm pollen
Mages were ok
I might try it again
My best streaks so far has been with turbo or destro lock
Ret I dropped a lot of points today 😭
Maybe I’m just playing bad I got so much crit and so low haste
Like 24% crit 5 % haste
warm pollen
Should I run aegis ?
fierce elm
Y we never go enhance lmao
warm pollen
Instead of badge
elder wigeon
into turbo?
warm pollen
Aegis over badge ?
elder wigeon
depends on what you're qing into
warm pollen
Ye everyone is focusing warriors on turbo now lol
elder wigeon
only comps i don't play aegis into is turbo, jungle, dh war
warm pollen
Thanks
elder wigeon
turbo is fucked tho I got hit for a 32k chain harvest earlier
fierce elm
the 20k elemental blasts
elder wigeon
50-0'ed by ele blast chain harvest from down town
23k ele blast into a 32k chain harvest
55k in 2 globals
warped warren
55k in 2 globals
i got hit by 52k bites in .5s
elder wigeon
convoke is fine
carmine flicker
do you play kyr in turbo?
fierce elm
yes
high kindle
Guys, need some help, in the vault got shoulder tier piece (BiS) and the cosmic weapon? What do i go with? I feel like i should take the shoulders and buy the weapon with CP
elder wigeon
Guys, need some help, in the vault got shoulder tier piece (BiS) and the cosmic ...
tough call, tier set is really really important especially since most of us are hosed until the middle of march
me personally? I'd take tier set before weapon any day just because of how strong it is and the fact that I don't raid
lucid walrus
cap is high enough to just buy weapon but you could also get 2 big pieces off rip with that
thing is you're timegated on tier especially if you don't raid whereas you can just buy weapon
fickle forge
In the short run, weapon is more power
lucid walrus
someone said earlier that tier shoulders have vers yeah?
elder wigeon
Yes
lucid walrus
oh sick
lucid walrus
eesh. guess my enduring goes on belt then
elder wigeon
chest is the worst IMO, and legs > gaunts > chest
in terms of stats
by no means is the chest straight up bad, but you lose less versatility and get the best "stats" by having helm, shoulders, legs and gaunts
lucid walrus
fortunate that vers isn't the end-all be-all stat anymore
elder wigeon
that's true but you want a lot of it since warriors are genuinely squishy now
lucid walrus
not wrong
there're points after deaths where i go "yeah i coulda been in d but it wouldn't have saved me"
elder wigeon
you can't upgrade the belt afaik
fierce elm
ah fuck
elder wigeon
which is a problem
fierce elm
stop ruining me
elder wigeon
and it doesn't have a socket iirc
fierce elm
yeah that I dont care about lmao
elder wigeon
EB on belt, unity on ring, neck, or wrist
lucid walrus
new socket system is annoying
elder wigeon
it's not that bad, no way to farm it other than just being full geared or getting a dogshit vault
lucid walrus
no rep grind attached is nice but anyone who got good vaults the first few times is good to go
elder wigeon
yeah that's true
I'm gonna try to get into a guild or something that does the normal raid and try to get some tier pieces to not be so far behind
balmy compass
So the vault gave me mastery ring, crit + on use trinket or pvp belt. Guessing taking a socket is the best option here?
elder wigeon
if you like mastery go for it
quasi kraken
I was gonna go Venthyr Fury Warr but from what it seems that'd be a very, very, very poor decision.
elder wigeon
Smexxin is allegedly doing very well with it
idle oxide
Im playing Venthyr Arms and having a blast - end of last season it felt like it hit like a wet noodle compared to other covs, but something has changed.
Could be because of lower Vers, higher HP pools - meh, hell if I know, but it feels much much better.
warm sigil
rare nebula
hmm, what are you currently wearing?
for both slots?
ring will give you more stam/higher secondaries, but wrist comes with strenght too. its really a preference pick
myself, if it was me, i'd pick ring
quaint snow
new socket system is annoying
unity on ring neck or wrist - which of the 3 you would consider BIS??
high kindle
for some reason, I dont like any lego on wrist, it seems like a lot of wasted stats
I will consider putting unity on the ring, for double haste/versa rings
candid veldt
hey guys logn time no see
frank knoll
Yeah I hit someone for 25k with a CH the other day. Enhance did get their healing nerfed though
candid veldt
was blessed and got weapon in vault, whats the play main set or risk that in the vault
iron basalt
What covenant should I go for fury PvP? After peaking yesterday at 2027, I’m down to 1950 again as Arms. It feels terrible in 2s. I’m going to try fury and go full healing spec
candid veldt
i got melted by necro fury
with HPala, just got pve'd down
35% of a assa rogues dmg was melee in the arena i just lost
elder wigeon
yeah they can maintain perma slice n dice
candid veldt
top 5 are passive dmg lol
idle oxide
If you play - lets say Venthyr Fury - what has a higher priority - condemn or Rampage?
and add to this, does it look like Kyrian Fury could be a thing or no?
candid veldt
ive seen them both work, rampage is always top dmg after a game, i would say it always have priority iinm
iron basalt
literally fuck blizzard
I'm trying fury today and I realized I don't have the signet of tormented kings power
it drops from raid finder and I'm sitting here queued as tank and no one else wants to queue for some random wing in the first raid
fickle forge
They changed that no?
gloomy beacon
I think you can exchange cinders for random leggo now
fickle forge
You can get it off of the vendors
gloomy beacon
And a few other resource types
iron basalt
where!?!?!
gloomy beacon
Heirmir
fickle forge
Idk if it's implemented yet though
iron basalt
oh wow -- ok thank you
I'll check it out now
watch me spend all my cinders and not get it, condemning me to torghast for the remainder of the morning
gloomy beacon
Hopefully implemented but I thought I read it somewhere
fickle forge
There's like 3 currencies you can buy it with
iron basalt
is it all from the same vendor?
gloomy beacon
You might need to look that up, knowing our luck probably different vendors with different currencies lol
In different places
wind wasp
ZM vendor if you need LEGO rec
warped warren
short walrus
Hey, guys, what's the best covenant in 9.2? I see a lot of people both in Kyrian and Necro, are ppl spec Necro just for now or is it going to be overall best with set bonus later on?
From that, what legendary is going to be the main one and which slot should it occupy with set bonus coming?
clear pine
You are never wrong with EB legendary. For covenants, yeah kyrian or necro are both good. Still early into this season there is no BIS setup.
short walrus
Should I spent money right now on the legendary?
clear pine
EB on belt, craft new covenant legendary on neck or ring
You can get 291 EB on belt and you good, belt because your dont want to craft it on head which is a tier slot
short walrus
Hmm, I heard that new legendary is going to be the belt, isn't it an overlap?
I'm coming in hot this patch after a long break, still trying to figure out some stuff
Thanks for the info @clear pine , appreciate it
clear pine
You get the new legendary as free item on belt. After you reach revered you can craft it yourself on any slot you want. Happy to help 
gloomy beacon
mehhhhh rep farm 💔
jagged cedar
the rep farm is pretty easy, i am terrible at rep farming and hate it lol but even im halfway through honored
ill be a week or so behind i think but whatever haha
clear pine
Just make sure you only do the WQs. Dailys dont give rep, only currency for pocopoc/cosmetics. But yeah its easy with weekly quest rewarding 1k rep
wet scarab
should I save up my conquest for a weapon next week or should I prio something else? I have a 268 pve weapon with haste/vers and feeling like I'm a bit squishy.
quaint snow
we all feel squishy dude, warrior life 
wet scarab
heh
wet scarab
and add to this, does it look like Kyrian Fury could be a thing or no?
the point of venthyr fury is the close to infinite rage generation to dump into rampage not the damage reduction from condemn so prioritize rampage
if you're using it with Deathmaker you also want to prio rampage to keep siegebreaker uptime as high as possible
wet scarab
well you need both
compact pelican
watchu mean
wet scarab
you need both the axe and the mace
iron basalt
do I prioritize raging blow over bloodthirst?
candid veldt
iirc bloodthirst is filler
runic galleon
rampage>condemn>raging>bloodthirst ?
spice hornet
condemn lmao
what were they thinking
with condemns design
weaker than execute
can't use it half the time
esp in pve if your guild gets better, your kill times are faster so less time to condemn
like why play that covenant
sharp meteor
seems nice for rage gen as fury
fickle forge
People find it fun
compact pelican
supatease swears by fury warrior with the siegebreaker legendary
spice hornet
because of the d stance and vers set bonus change fury is a bit better than arms
sharp meteor
i could see signet siegebreaker or the reck/regen cdr legendary although idk why you'd pay attention to supa of all players
spice hornet
im 272 pvp ilvl with duelist wep and still hitting lower than 259 ilvl last season pre-nerf
sharp meteor
shambles
sharp meteor
bonked some rogue for like 40k the other day
spice hornet
dammmm
sharp meteor
backpeddling male nelf somehow 2200 2s
spice hornet
must be rogue mage player
i always look up the r/m i fight in 2s
2400 in 2s highest, 1900 in 3s highest
every time
spice hornet
its sickening
also happens with dh, rdruids, and hutners
but all the other classes takes half a brain to get 2.4 in 2s on, so their 3s are usually around the same or higher
sharp meteor
sike hunters can't find a feral so they're 1800 3s forever
also i swear 90% of "boosters" people bump into are like
people who got duelist in 2s on cringe comp
and just float around 1700 with duelist gear
sharp meteor
statchecking newbs
ionic gazelle
im 272 pvp ilvl with duelist wep and still hitting lower than 259 ilvl last seas...
Warriors just a bit dead
sharp meteor
blonde male tauren ret with a flower in his hair + emo bangs 1650 cr but full duelist like let me cap my rat alts in peace
ionic gazelle
Waiting for changes or reroll to another class
Even in 3v3 DH would be better in any setup except retwar
sharp meteor
honestly the sheer amount of damage you put out as havoc is hilarious
spice hornet
ItS ProPed up by KyRian Bro
sharp meteor
it's like oh somebody is just randomly dead
idk their tier kind of sick
idk if op but
eh
spice hornet
no that 2pc fucking hurts
already fought dhs with it
15k blade dance 1 slash
so that blade dance is easily doing 20k+
wet scarab
fury is nice into all the comps warrior struggles with, sadly underperforms in all the comps arms is good at
it feels good right now because of all the surv rdruid bullshit
I'm murdering both with the reckless abandon talent and signet
sharp meteor
ya stackiong into havoc is suicide
wet scarab
pop recklessness and you have infinite charge on the druid trying to run away from you with the 2pc
they go down fast
spice hornet
im so glad that venthyr auto root shit breaks on dmg now
"oops, fixed a bug where the venthyr auto root wasnt breaking on dmg"
only took nearly 2 years to realize that
full quiver
Loved getting hunters low then being rooted
Taking the dick
Doesn't Dr other roots lol
spice hornet
ye its retarded
sharp meteor
lmao -passively outplays u-
shy aurora
Damn Fury has no defensives 😂alot of fun to play tho. Wondering how high rating its viable to 🤔
wet scarab
there are fury glads/duelists/elite already
it's not like arms is this epic defensive class lel
at least with fury you can heal yourself while your healer is cloned for the 10th time
you also get a big vers boost from having a second 2H that arms doesn't get
shy aurora
Yeah im gonna try it out this season for sure
steep inlet
there are fury glads/duelists/elite already
Stop taking pro/R1 players as a norm
They are exceptional lvl
All thoses élite glad fury are god tier pros
wet scarab
I'm not, the point is there are quite a few duelists from both fury and arms even though things are weighted against fury because of arms being really good this entire expansion, so it is doable
I'm not saying switch to fury and you will suddenly become smexxin, I'm saying it's viable if you like the playstyle and want to perfect it
sharp meteor
fury wasn't even that bad last season it's just arms was better idk why people think it's some kind of d tier unplayable spec
raw summit
Ye but people who are good will do good regardless of a slightly worse/better spec
A whaazz does better on fury than i do on arm
It's about the player now more than spec imo
steep inlet
that’s it
wet scarab
and that's fine, fury isn't our version of night fae to necro DH, but it's not a dogshit spec just because it wasn't meta before
when enough people play it and we're further along in the season we'll get a better sense of how it plays out
but for now you can make it work if you like it
it's interesting how many crit > haste necro warriors are around these days
wonder what changed
raw summit
Well
Tier wants haste naturally
And necro goes more to a pressure machine rather than a oneshot andy
Just pushing you dont into the HP % where an exe can always just kill
wet scarab
yeah but there was a lot more full haste necro warriors before and now most of those at the top of the ladder are crit / unhinged
fickle forge
fury wasn't even that bad last season it's just arms was better idk why people t...
Excuse me? I'll have you know I am subscribed to Skill Capped on Youtube, and they have listed fury as a D-tier spec, so I'll never touch it
wet scarab
lmao
radiant oasis
anyone know i way i can check soulbind / conduits through wow armory or some api?
clear pine
Vault loot: mastery pvp chest or haste pvp wrist? Should go for chest so I can turn it into tier item later right?
wet scarab
Might depend on where you want to recraft unity. A lot are recommending wrist or ring for that
clear pine
I already have ring for that(higher stats). Can I still upgrade pvp items to tier bought from vendor?
clear pine
No way later, April 12th
wet scarab
Ya I know Kyrian was crit heavy and there were a few who were necro as well but there seem to be a lot more crit necros right now
wet scarab
The apex necro
full quiver
Lol
jaunty furnace
🙂
full quiver
Is there a glaive toss macro to target your demon
sharp meteor
Yeah, it's in the DN channel.
jagged cedar
I have a harder time vs enh then I do DH haha
quaint snow
assa rogue ripped me apart yday….
undone pumice
i have the hardest time vs rets atm
pretty hard to kill em in the 30 second window
vapid rover
i dont know what to choose hum ... haste shoulder or crit trinket ?
spice hornet
Is there a glaive toss macro to target your demon
i hate that part of DH so much, they should just give NL DH an ability (since it doesnt even get one for its covenant) that just explodes the demon that u can press whenever u want..
not that I want that retard class to be even easier
undone pumice
wtf is necro dh ability
jagged cedar
Lol
spice hornet
it doesnt have one, its the fodder to the flame demon spawn
like i mean it should be given a button
to explode it
instead of having to throw glaive
jagged cedar
Should be that if the demon touches them it 1 shots them. F dh
spice hornet
i just really wish theyd fix the blur
undone pumice
same
spice hornet
its like they are essentially immune to us every 30 sec
for a really ong fucking time
undone pumice
like atlest the simplest warr cov is at least a replacement to one of our abilities
dh just dorsnt get one
spice hornet
that class had too many buttons to begin wtih, right ? KEKW
crimson schooner
Witch 4 pieces are you planing to get Tiers on?
undone pumice
head definitely
crimson schooner
Yeh i was planning to get it on Should,Head,leggs and chest
undone pumice
i love leggs
tawny elm
Damn it. Should have read stickies. Can I return helm after upgrade and for how long in that case?
undone pumice
did u equip it
tawny elm
Yeah
tawny elm
crimson schooner
I mean its not a waste if you wont get it in the vault
Cuz if you dont you will use that helm later on to convert into tier piece
jaunty furnace
don’t worry there’s still over a year left of shadowlands 
crimson schooner
Exactly 🙂
But Yeh i am gonna craft the elysian might 291 leggo now, I am still going crit versa even tho i will play enduring as 2nd
fiery walrus
henlo guys, im thinking to switch to necro but im curious about stats, is vers/hate?
tawny elm
Cuz if you dont you will use that helm later on to convert into tier piece
But what slot should be my endurance blow leggo then?
crimson schooner
But what slot should be my endurance blow leggo then?
Yeh thats what i was thinking about BUT since its head and wast and Head is a clear tier slot i think Waist
tawny elm
Okies ty
crimson schooner
Okies ty
And i choosed elysian might on boots, it was eithar that or gloves and i got gloves in vault. so
tawny elm
Ah well I guess soon enough too much conquest will be the problem 🙂
crimson schooner
yeh
undone pumice
reckless is bugged
runic galleon
in what way
undone pumice
unable to proc btrance during reck
like 15 seconds of not being able to proc btrance
runic galleon
ah, so people using am rn for that reason ?
hasty fractal
Hey guys I admit I am not great at arena. Doing 3s today I rarely used defstance. How much are others using it? Sometimes I womder if bounding stride would be better. Or maybe I am not playing as well as I should
fierce elm
a lot tbh
wet scarab
how do you counter ele rdruid besides afking?
double reflect and try to kill the druid?
ele seems like they just run around never dying
spice hornet
gas pedal ele through damp kekw
thats def a big dampener
can go rdruid if u think he sucks and is a 2s hero
but idk most of them are super sweaty in 2s
so id jsut gas pedal ele and be done with it win or lose
spice hornet
Hey guys I admit I am not great at arena. Doing 3s today I rarely used defstance...
i pretty much dont run d stance anymore except into rogue/mage
it does nothing
you die through
while doing -20% less dmg
sharp meteor
ya fastly leap is the way
i mean swapping dstance during enemy cds for tiny bit of dmg reduction is probably the way but eh
undone pumice
but
spice hornet
yeah the talent row is essentialyl dead in pvp
spice hornet
boudning can feel nice sometimes
spice hornet
i died through d stance heal spam from healer into 2pc UHdk/DH
fierce elm
But it does have an impact still
undone pumice
i am no enemy of dstance tho
spice hornet
nothingi can do
undone pumice
all my homies love stances
fierce elm
And those that can balance it its gonna make an impact either way
Dstancing pre-goes still have value in most cases
spice hornet
why every single time i do a boost in 2s we always run into some one dance fucking bitch rogue that just 1 s hots my retard healer
sharp meteor
because business is probably booming at start of the season wwym
people want their bigly gear to bull ynoobs in bgs with
undone pumice
like
full quiver
Business booming
full quiver
Made like 1100 today
undone pumice
its not dead talent
full quiver
take bounding into ret/warr
sharp meteor
50% nerf aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
undone pumice
thinking is hard
fierce elm
See
sharp meteor
yeah lemme just TIDY UP MY PLAY while a jungle does like 15k dps to my FACE
aaaaaaaaaaa
fierce elm
Even the dude who didnt hamstring until 2400
full quiver
😏 😏 😏
sharp meteor
my healer?
fierce elm
That 15k dps is gonna happen either way lmao
full quiver
That's how good my position was
sharp meteor
i had to be like "dang why they so fast"
fierce elm
But with dstance its 10% less
sharp meteor
and he's like SHUT
fierce elm
interesting how that works
sharp meteor
aaaa mathematics
full quiver
Afro is dumb
undone pumice
math is fake
fierce elm
while bounding does nothing lmao
spice hornet
Or just learn how to optimize Dstance throguh its nerf lmao
10% DR isnt much in this meta
fierce elm
its more than 0
spice hornet
everything overkills
every game i just train other arms and win or win on mana from that kekw
if they sit D no pressure cause vers trinket bonus change cucked arms
fierce elm
2s is a cesspool and has been forever
I like the idea of running IV though
instead of SB
into certain comps with certain healers
wet scarab
I just lost twice to a DK called lolwtf
who did 17k dps
in 30 secs
most of it with chillstreak
_>
spice hornet
yeah frost dk is doing nutty dmg rn
wet scarab
like what do you do there
wet scarab
I thought maybe it's a set bonus thing
spice hornet
he wont let you disarm if hes good
spice hornet
yeah its insane